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This music is amazing! [message #91565]

Wed, 17 October 2007 11:28

dc[3]
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>>> > for it, listening closely to bounces. I actually did 2<BR>bounces
>=
>>>of =3D
>>> >every mix=3D20
>>> > and listened back to both at the same time, out of phase<BR>with
=
>>>each
>>> =3D
>>> >other,=3D20
>>> > to hear the difference, since the crackles appeared to =
>>>be<BR>random.)
>>> =3D
>>> >There=3D20
>>> > were maybe 1 or 2 c

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Re: This music is amazing! [message #91570 is a reply to message #91565]

Fri, 17 August 2007 20:17

justcron

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;>> >to=3D20
>>> > disk" crackles whipped, but they came<BR>>>>back. This time I =3D
>>> >
>>> > re-patched and did a spdif bounce and that seemed=3D20
>>> > to<BR>>cure<BR>>>>it. I havn't tried it yet with bounce to =3D
>>> >disk to=3D20
>>> > verify that the crackling<BR>>>>comes back, but I bet it =3D
>>> >will. I=3D20
>>> > wonder what could be causing this? =3D
>>> >The<BR>>>last<BR>>>>time I=3D20
>>> > did a fresh install of my system (via ghost) and it seemed to=3D20
>>> > get<BR>>>>rid of it, for a while. I'm going to try a bounce =3D
>>> >to disk=3D20
>>> > and see if the<BR>>>>crackles return.<BR>>>>The way =3D
>>> >my=3D20
>>> > system is

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Re: This music is amazing! [message #91574 is a reply to message #91570]

Wed, 17 October 2007 20:11

dc[3]
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nce to disk to verify that the=20
>>> =3D<BR>>crackling<BR>>� >>>comes back, but I bet =
>>>it will. I=20
>>> wonder what could be causing this?<BR>=3D<BR>>The<BR>>�=20
>>> >>last<BR>>� >>>time I did a fresh install of =
>>>my system=20
>>> (via ghost) and it seemed =3D<BR>>to get<BR>>� =
>>>>>>rid of it,=20
>>> for a while. I'm going to try a bounce to disk and see =3D<BR>>if=20
>>> the<BR>>� >>>crackles return.<BR>>� =
>>>>>>The=20
>>> way my system is set up, because of space limitations, and=20
>>> the<BR>=3D<BR>>fact<BR>>� >>that<BR>>� =
>>>>>>I=20
>>> have to have my drums basically in the mix position (facing the=20
>>> =3D<BR>>other<BR>>� >>way)<BR>>� =
>>>>>>makes it A=20
>>> FREAKIN PITA to crawl behind the gear and unplug the=20
>>> =3D<BR>>spdif<BR>>� cable<BR>>� >>>going =
>>>to the=20
>>> DAC-1 and re-patch a cable loop. I accidently =3D<BR>>unplugged=20
>>> something<BR>>� >>>while doing it, and had to rip =
>>>abouat half=20
>>> the system out to find =3D<BR>>it.<BR>>�=20
>>> ERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!<BR>>� >>>Rod<BR>>�=20
>>> >><BR>>� ><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>I choose =
>>>Polesoft=20
>>>

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Re: This music is amazing! [message #91584 is a reply to message #91574]

Wed, 17 October 2007 23:30

Nei
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Registered: November 2006

Senior Member

g panned as you normally
=3D
>>>> >would for=3D20
>>>> > this<BR>>mix? This includes anything inserted across the=3D20
>>>> > 2-buss.<BR><BR>Bounce with No FX (Auxes, both internal and =
>>>>external) =3D
>>>> >still=3D20
>>>> > Crackles<BR><BR>Bounce with no plugs...this does produce a crackle
>>>=
>>>>=3D
>>>> >free=3D20
>>>> > bounce. I tried this<BR>the first time it happened a couple weeks
>>=
>>>>ago,
>>>> =3D
>>>> >and=3D20
>>>> > thought I had it narrowed<BR>down to the UAD plugs. I re-ghosted
>=
>>>>=3D
>>>> >to a=3D20
>>>> > sys version that had an earlier<BR>UAD install (can't remember the
>>>=
>>>>=3D
>>>> >number, it=3D20
>>>> > had the Helios, but not the Neve<BR>88)and the crackles went away,
>>>=
>>>>so
>>>> =3D
>>>> >I=3D20
>>>> > thought it was a software rev that Paris<BR>didn't like, but just
>>=
>>>>to =3D
>>>> >be sure I=3D20
>>>> > reloaded the new version of the UAD software<BR>(the one with the
>>=
>>>>Neve
>>>> =3D
>>>> >
>>>> > 88) and it still didn't crackle. At that point I<BR>thought it =3D
>>>> >might be=3D20
>>>> > something else altogether and since I am in the middle<BR>of a =
>>>>mixing
>>>> =3D
>>>> >project=3D20
>>>> > that I'm using the Neve 88 plug on a lot (love what it<BR>does)
I
>>=
>>>>just
>>>> =3D
>>>> >went=3D20
>>>> > for it, listening closely to bounces. I actually did 2<BR>bounces
>>=
>>>>of =3D
>>>> >every mix=3D20
>>>> > and listened back to both at the same time,

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Re: This music is amazing! [message #91590 is a reply to message #91584]

Thu, 18 October 2007 00:02

dc[3]
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both at the same time, out of phase<BR>with=20
>>>> each<BR>=3D<BR>>other,=3D20<BR>>� to hear the difference, =
>>>>since the=20
>>>> crackles appeared to =
>>>>be<BR>random.)<BR>=3D<BR>>There=3D20<BR>>�=20
>>>> were maybe 1 or 2 crackles per song on a couple songs, and<BR>no =
>>>>
>>>> =3D<BR>>crackles on=3D20<BR>>� the other 3 (that I've done =
>>>>so far). I'm=20
>>>> wondering now if<BR>it is a =3D<BR>>UAD =
>>>>rev=3D20<BR>>� problem=20
>>>> that only shows up after some wear and tear on the<BR>sys.=20
>>>> I'm<BR>=3D<BR>>going=3D20<BR>>� to re-ghost and re-load the =
>>>>
>>>> <BR>UAD software (Neve 88 ver) tommorrow =3D<BR>>and=20
>>>> see=3D20<BR>>� what happens.<BR>Just to reiterate...when =
>>>>I did a=20
>>>> spdif bounce, even =3D<BR>>with my=3D20<BR>>� system as =
>>>>it<BR>is=20
>>>> tonight, there are no crackles. That's wierd.=20
>>>> Also<BR>=3D<BR>>the=3D20<BR>>� crackles never<BR>show =
>>>>till=20
>>>> listening to the bounced=20
>>>> =3D<BR>>file.<BR>><BR>>3.)=3D20<BR>>� can =
>>>>you=20
>>>> determine where the crackle rears it's ugly head?<BR>>IOW,=20
>>>> =3D<BR>>is it=3D20<BR>>� constant, more or less, or is it =
>>>>intermittent?=20
>>>> If<BR>>it's =3D<BR>>intermittent,=3D20<BR>>� does =
>>>>it seem to=20
>>>> coincide with any particular<BR>>instrument or =
>>>>=3D<BR>>track?=20
>>>> For=3D20<BR>>� example, could it be a =
>>>>particular<BR>>plugin on=20
>>>> the - let's say - =3D<BR>>cowbell=3D20<BR>>� track, which =
>>>>occurs=20
>>>> though<BR>>most of the song, but not on =
>>>>the=3D20<BR>>�=20
>>>> (confounded) bridge?<BR><BR>totally random...not in anyway =
>>>>
>>>> associated<BR>=3D<BR>>with a=3D20<BR>>� particular =
>>>>instrument.=20
>>>> Fairly<BR>study though, like a bowl of rice=3D20<BR>>�=20
>>>> crispies.<BR>><BR>>4.) mute/disconnect the right =
>>>>channel=20
>>>> when =3D<BR>>listening=3D20<BR>>� back to<BR>>the=20
>>>> crackle-infeste

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Re: This music is amazing! [message #91593 is a reply to message #91584]

Thu, 18 October 2007 00:36

Erling

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Registered: October 2008

Senior Member

but I=20
>>>> havn't=3D20<BR>>� burnt<BR>another CD yet.<BR>It =
>>>>does happen=20
>>>> on my NS 10's as well as my<BR>=3D<BR>><BR>>� Mackie 824's. =
>>>>The 824's=20
>>>> are hooked<BR>up thru the spdif out of =3D<BR>>the =
>>>>mec=3D20<BR>>�=20
>>>> to a DAC-1 to a PVC passive volume control.<BR>The NS 10's are=20
>>>> hooked<BR>=3D<BR>>up thru=3D20<BR>>� 2 analogue outs from =
>>>>the Mec into=20
>>>> a GFA power<BR>amp. Crackles exisist<BR>=3D<BR>>on =
>>>>the=3D20<BR>>�=20
>>>> left channel on both sets of speakers.<BR>><BR>>6.) =
>>>>What=20
>>>> happens =3D<BR>>when=3D20<BR>>� you open up an older =
>>>>project that=20
>>>> you<BR>>DIDN'T have this problem =
>>>>=3D<BR>>on...?=3D20<BR>>� If=20
>>>> you do a bounce with that,<BR>>does it sound as it did =
>>>>before,=20
>>>> =3D<BR>>or does=3D20<BR>>� it now have =
>>>>the<BR>>crackles in=20
>>>> it?<BR><BR>Not nearly as bad...No =
>>>>=3D<BR>>study=3D20<BR>>�=20
>>>> diet of rice crispies, but there were a couple<BR>of crackles=20
>>>> (random,<BR>=3D<BR>>I=3D20<BR>>� bounced twice and listend =
>>>>to both=20
>>>> mixes out of phase,<BR>set markers =3D<BR>>at =
>>>>the=3D20<BR>>�=20
>>>> crackles, and verified by listening one at a time) This<BR>also=20
>>>> leads<BR>=3D<BR>>me to=3D20<BR>>� believe it's some sort of =
>>>>ppj=20
>>>> corruption brought on by the<BR>UAD =3D<BR>>stuff,=20
>>>> only=3D20<BR>>� it happens over time, but I haven't been able =
>>>>to=20
>>>> verify=3D20<BR>>� =
>>>>this<BR>yet.<BR>><BR>>7.) Have=20
>>>> you tried physically swapping =3D<BR>>your left=3D20<BR>>� =
>>>>speaker=20
>>>> with<BR>>your right speaker?<BR>swapping speakers make=20
>>>> no=3D20<BR>>� difference, swapping the cables leading to=20
>>>> the<BR>speakers makes it =3D<BR>>happen in=3D20<BR>>� =
>>>>the right=20
>>>> speaker.<BR>><BR>>Just trying to think of things to=20
>>>> =3D<BR>>try &=3D20<BR>>� narrow it down =
>>>>by<BR>>process of=20
>>>> elimination.<BR><BR>I appreciate =
>>>>=3D<BR>>your=3D20<BR>>�=20
>>>> thought process. If this makes a light go off for you,<BR>please =
>>>>let=20
>>>> =3D<BR>>me=3D20<BR>>� know.<BR>><BR

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Re: This music is amazing! [message #91600 is a reply to message #91570]

Thu, 18 October 2007 04:21

John [1]
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>>A>&g</A>=3D<BR>>t;=3D20<BR>>�=20
>>>> wrote:<BR>>><BR>>>OK..I got everything hooked =
>>>>backk up=20
>>>> and =3D<BR>>sure=3D20<BR>>� enough, the crackle is=20
>>>> back<BR>>>on bounce to disk...in the left=20
>>>> =3D<BR>>channel=3D20<BR>>� only, same as always. I tried=20
>>>> panning<BR>>>everything oppisite,=20
>>>> =3D<BR>>crackle,=3D20<BR>>� tried lowering levels,=20
>>>> crackle.<BR>>>When I took all the tracks =3D<BR>>off=20
>>>> the=3D20<BR>>� submixes except for the drums on=20
>>>> submix<BR>>>1, there were NO =
>>>>=3D<BR>>crackles.=3D20<BR>>�=20
>>>> There were also NO crackles when bouncing audio<BR>>>from =
>>>>any=20
>>>> =3D<BR>>submix by=3D20<BR>>� itself. <BR>>>This =
>>>>is a 24 bit=20
>>>> mix with 2

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Re: This music is amazing! [message #91601 is a reply to message #91600]

Thu, 18 October 2007 04:31

Erling

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4 bit tracks, so I =3D<BR>>tried=3D20<BR>>� =
>>>>(advice from=20
>>>> Aaron)<BR>>rendering<BR>>>some of the tracks to=20
>>>> =3D<BR>>16 bit.=3D20<BR>>� I rendered all the drums (15 =
>>>>tracks)=20
>>>> and<BR>5<BR>>>other tracks =3D<BR>>to =
>>>>16=3D20<BR>>�=20
>>>> bit, leaving 10 tracks at 24 bit...Crackles came =
>>>>back<BR>>>when=20
>>>> =3D<BR>>bouncing=3D20<BR>>� the entire mix. That's where =
>>>>I'm at. I can=20
>>>> always do=3D20<BR>>� =
>>>>the<BR>spdif<BR>>>bounce=20
>>>> method...it's a real hassle because of =3D<BR>>the =
>>>>way=3D20<BR>>� my=20
>>>> moitoring and<BR>work<BR>>>flow is, but it's doable, =
>>>>and=20
>>>> =3D<BR>>seems to=3D20<BR>>� work, but I'd like to get this=20
>>>> thing<BR>>>figured out.=20
>>>> =3D<BR>><BR>>>I've=3D20<BR>>� had it for today. =
>>>>Going to=20
>>>> crash.<BR>>>Rod<BR>>>"Rod=20
>>>> =3D<BR>>Lincoln"=3D20<BR>>� <<A=3D20<BR>>�=20
>>>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=

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Re: This music is amazing! [message #91604 is a reply to message #91574]

Thu, 18 October 2007 08:33

Dedric Terry

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>Hi Guys and Gals. I am an old school musician and I never ventured into the
electronic realms of midi and all that stuff. The closest I came to this
was running a midi cable from my Roland A-70 to an old Akai synth. The synth
played some nice strings while I played chords. Very simple.

I recently purchased a small 25-key Korg midi keyboard... and I was so upset.
Just like my bundle with the Roland A-70 when I purchased it back in 98,
the instructions are absolutely the pits. The software that came with it
looks nice on my screen, but there is ZERO instruction on how to use it...
except description of knobs and such. It's not that I want to know everything
about midi... I just want to understand it and play... not download a .mid
or .kar file. I tried a few Notation software and I can not find anything
that I really truly need and want.

Here is my question... is there a semi-easy notation software out t

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Re: This music is amazing! [message #91605 is a reply to message #91604]

Thu, 18 October 2007 08:42

dc[3]
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here that
will easily setup... and record what I am playing. So I can dub anonther
midi track over that? Everything seems to be directed at pre-made midi,
or notation software when you have to manually change the bar, beat, note,
etc. I want to hit freakin "record" and hear a pre-selected tempo, play
chords along with my midi keyboard and it record the darn thing. I don't
want to stop and change things.. I want the software to know what I am changing
and record it...

Perhaps I am asking too much? Surely these midi files were not created note
or staff at a time. Of course, my notebook's soundcard is limited and that
is my only playback... but maybe the sequencer software can enamble me more
sounds?

Is there anything out there that is like that? I tried the Finale freebie...
but that's a no-go. I play to try the Notation Composer which claims to
do this (but so did Finale).

Any midi/Notation gurus out there?Oh Shoot! I think I found what I was trying to find...

Anyone familiar with this software?

http://www.wildcat.com/Web/Wildcat/Html/Site/Homepage.htm

I am gonna get it and try it... Hopefully it is not a waste of my time and
especially my money...

"Ed" <askme@email.com> wrote:
>
>Hi Guys and Gals. I am an old school musician and I never ventured into
the
>electronic realms of midi and all that stuff. The closest I came to this
>was running a midi cable from my Roland A-70 to an old Akai synth. The
synth
>played some nice strings while I played chords. Very simple.
>
>I recently purchased a small 25-key Korg midi keyboard... and I was so upset.
> Just like my bundle with the Roland A-70 when I purchased it back in 98,
>the instructions are absolutely the pits. The software that came with it
>looks nice on my screen, but there is ZERO instruction on how to use it...
>except description of knobs and such. It's not that I want to know everything
>about midi... I just want to understand it and play... not download a .mid
>or .kar file. I tried a few Notation software and I can not find anything
>that I really truly need and want.
>
>Here is my question... is there a semi-easy notation software out there
that
>will easily setup... and record what I am playing. So I can dub anonther
>midi track over that? Everything seems to be directed at pre-made midi,
>or notation software when you have to manually change the bar, beat, note,

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Re: This music is amazing! [message #91629 is a reply to message #91565]

Thu, 18 October 2007 15:24

Brian Porick

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O crackles when bouncing audio<BR>>>from =3D
>>>>any=3D20
>>>> =3D3D<BR>>submix by=3D3D20<BR>> itself. <BR>>>This =3D
>>>>is a 24 bit=3D20
>>>> mix with 24 bit tracks, so I =3D3D<BR>>tried=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>>>>(advice from=3D20
>>>> Aaron)<BR>>rendering<BR>>>some of the tracks to=3D20
>>>> =3D3D<BR>>16 bit.=3D3D20<BR>> I rendered all the drums (15 =3D
>>>>tracks)=3D20
>>>> and<BR>5<BR>>>other tracks =3D3D<BR>>to =3D
>>>>16=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
>>>> bit, leaving 10 tracks at 24 bit...Crackles came =3D
>>>>back<BR>>>when=3D20
>>>> =3D3D<BR>>bouncing=3D3D20<BR>> the entire mix. That's where =3D

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Re: This music is amazing! [message #91630 is a reply to message #91629]

Thu, 18 October 2007 15:49

dc[3]
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>>>>I'm at. I can=3D20
>>>> always do=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>>>>the<BR>spdif<BR>>>bounce=3D20
>>>> method...it's a real hassle because of =3D3D<BR>>the =3D
>>>>way=3D3D20<BR>> my=3D20
>>>> moitoring and<BR>work<BR>>>flow is, but it's doable, =3D
>>>>and=3D20
>>>> =3D3D<BR>>seems to=3D3D20<BR>> work, but I'd like to get =
this=3D20
>>>> thing<BR>>>figured out.=3D20
>>>> =3D3D<BR>><BR>>>I've=3D3D20<BR>> had it for today. =3D
>>>>Going to=3D20
>>>> crash.<BR>>>Rod<BR>>>"Rod=3D20
>>>> =3D3D<BR>>Lincoln"=3D3D20<BR>> <<A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
>>>> =3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
>>>> =3D
=
>>>>href=3D3D'mailto:rlincoln@nospamn.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospamn.kc.rr.c=
om</A'=3D
=
>>>>

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Re: This music is amazing! [message #91634 is a reply to message #91565]

Fri, 19 October 2007 04:23

Sarah

Messages: 608
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st.net" target="_blank">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>>>>>  ><BR>>>>> =20
><BR>>>>>  >Hey Rod,<BR>>>>>  =
>Do=20
the crackles repeat themselves in exactly the same=20
places<BR>>>>>  >on play back?  If not, I'd =
look at=20
hardware.  Do they show up<BR>>>>>  >in the =
waveform=20
or are they to low in level? =3D3D20<BR>>>>> =20
><BR>>>>>  >If you suspect hardware I'd think =
CPU, fan=20
(make it cold!) or<BR>>>>> 

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Re: This music is amazing! [message #91642 is a reply to message #91634]

Fri, 19 October 2007 07:55

dc[3]
Messages: 895
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apply to (3) above?<BR>>>>>  =
><BR>>>>> =20
>  none<BR>>>>>  > =20
><BR>>>>>  >  >5.) Is the crackle =
happening on=20
ALL systems? IOW, have you<BR>>>>>  >  =
>burned a=20
CD of the bounced tracks & played it back on a=20
home<BR>>>>>  >  >stereo, in your car, on=20
headphones, etc? Is it possible that<BR>>>>>  =
> =20
>for some odd reason the crackle is due to something in=20
your<BR>>>>>  >  >monitoring setup that =
isn't=20
showing up on regular playback, but<BR>>>>>  =
> =20
>might be showing up on a rendered file?<BR>>>>> =20
>  This first came to my attention after I burned a CD of test =

mixes<BR>>>=3D<BR>>>>>for <BR>>>>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>>>>  >the<BR>>>>>  =
> =20
client and

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Re: This music is amazing! [message #91665 is a reply to message #91642]

Fri, 19 October 2007 15:38

Sarah

Messages: 608
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lt;BR>amp. =

Crackles =3D<BR>>>>>exisist<BR>>>>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>>>>  >on =
the=3D3D20<BR>>>>> =20
>  left channel on both sets of=20
speakers.<BR>><BR>&gt ;6.) What=20
happens<BR>>=3D<BR>>>>>=3D3D <BR>>>>> =20
>when=3D3D20<BR>>>>>  >  you open up an =
older=20
project that you<BR>>DIDN'T have this=20
=
problem<BR>>>>=3D<BR>>>>>=3D3D <BR>>>>>&n=
bsp;=20
>on...?=3D3D20<BR>>>>>  >  If you do a =
bounce with=20
that,<BR>>does it sound as it did=20
=
before,<BR>>>=3D<BR>>>>>=3D3D <BR>>>>> =
>or=20
does=3D3D20<BR>>>>>  >  it now have=20
the<BR>>crackles in it?<BR><BR>Not nearly as=20
=
bad...No<BR>>>=3D<BR>>>>>=3D3D <BR>>>>>&nbsp=
;=20
>study=3D3D20<BR>>>>>  >  diet of rice =
crispies, but=20
there were a couple<BR>of crackles=20
=3D<BR>>>>>(random,<BR>>>>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>>>>  >I=3D3D20<BR>>>>>  =
> =20
bounced twice and listend to both mixes out of phase,<BR>set=20
=3D<BR>>>>>markers =3D3D<BR>>>>>  >at=20
the=3D3D20<BR>>>>>  >  crackles, and verified =
by=20
listening one at a time)=20
=
This<BR>also<BR>=3D<BR>>>>>leads <BR>>>>>&nb=
sp;=20
=3D3D<BR>>>>>  >me =
to=3D3D20<BR>>&gt

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Re: This music is amazing! [message #91666 is a reply to message #91665]

Sat, 20 October 2007 01:20

dc[3]
Messages: 895
Registered: September 2005

Senior Member

;>> =20
>  believe it's some sort of ppj corruption brought on by=20
=
the<BR>UAD<BR>>>=3D<BR>>>>>=3D3D <BR>>>>&=
gt; =20
>stuff, only=3D3D20<BR>>>>>  >  it happens =
over=20
time, but I haven't been able to =
verify=3D3D20<BR>>>>> =20
>  this<BR>yet.<BR>>< BR>>7.) Have you =
tried=20
physically swapping =3D3D<BR>>>>>  >your=20
left=3D3D20<BR>>>>>  >  speaker =
with<BR>>your=20
right speaker?<BR>swapping speakers make=20
=3D<BR>>>>>no=3D3D20<BR>>>>>  >  =
difference,=20
swapping the cables leading to the<BR>speakers=20
=
makes<BR>>it<BR>>>>=3D<BR>>>>>=3D3D <BR>>>&g=
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>happen in=3D3D20<BR>>>>>  >  the right=20
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Sun, 21 October 2007 01:36

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Sun, 21 October 2007 09:44

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Re: This music is amazing! [message #91722 is a reply to message #91712]

Sun, 21 October 2007 13:22

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gt;<BR>>>  <DIV>"Rod =
Lincoln"=20
<<A=3D20<BR>>>  =3D<BR>>>href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&a=
mp;g'>mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</=
A>&g</A>=3D<BR>>>t;=3D20<BR >>> =20
wrote in message <A=3D20<BR>>>  =
=3D<BR>>>href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:4731413b$1@linux">news:4731413b$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Tom'=
>news:4731413b$1@linux">news:4731413b$1@linux</A>...</DIV>=
<BR>Tom</A>,=3D<BR>>>=20
there=3D20<BR>>>  should be just 2 "missing" mono versions. =
the=20
Farichild and =3D<BR>>>the<BR>EX-M=3D20<BR>>>  =
whatever.=20
You probably need to uninstall the UAD software =
and=3D20<BR>>> =20
re-install,<BR>only just select the stereo versions. THEN,=20
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software=20
to<BR>a dummy folder, selecting to install the mono=20
versions.<BR>>=3D<BR>>>After=3D20<BR >>> =20
installation,<BR>go to

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Re: This music is amazing! [message #91724 is a reply to message #91712]

Sun, 21 October 2007 15:00

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ead.=3D20
>> >
>> >I am trying to get back up to full tilt here without a Magma
>> >if at all possible. Any ideas of how to get this setup to play=3D20
>> >nice fully loaded?
>> >Thanks,
>> >Tom
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >

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Re: This music is amazing! [message #91725 is a reply to message #91722]

Sun, 21 October 2007 15:51

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>> >
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Re: This music is amazing! [message #91730 is a reply to message #91724]

Sun, 21 October 2007 19:12

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t;<BR>>>>>>=
>>><BR>>>>>><BR>>>>><BR>>>><BR>>&=
>>gt;<BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
>><DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, =
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>>
>>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote in message news:4734d759$1@linux...
>
> Ok, I'm confused. Why would Apple, Dell, Sony, Toshiba or any of the
> Personal
> computer maker/vendor make use an item knowing that it would present
> problems
> to the masses??
>

Because audio users aren't anywhere close to being part of the "masses"
these companies make a living from.
I'm sure the chipset works with a reasonable range of general firewire
devices (drives, consumer camcorders, etc), but imho, firewire isn't a
guaranteed reliable solution for

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Re: This music is amazing! [message #91734 is a reply to message #91730]

Sun, 21 October 2007 21:48

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> >>
>>
>>
>>
>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>Mike,
>>>I can not wait. ! ! ! =20
>>>
>>>I am loving having a 4 band eq in the aux bus now. Nice for the reverbs
>>=
>>>for sure.
>>>
>>>I hope you have time to use your own effects?!
>>>Tom
>>>
>>>
>>> "Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote in message news:4734c21e$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Thanks so much, Chuck!!
>>>
>>> I'll finish up the big reverb. It sounds really, really good in its
>=
>>>own
>>> right. I have a plan for simplifying the interface. As soon as I get
>>=
>>>that
>>> done, I'll release it, and move on to the next project. =20
>>>
>>> Those e2 files are going to keep me busy for a long time. :)
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> "chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >Cobra was the code name for the DP/Pro. I forget what hornet was.
>>> >
>>> >Chuck
>>> >"Mike Audet" <mike@...> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>Chuck! You 'da man!!!!!!
>>> >>
>>> >>Last question for the day. What are the cobra and the hornet?
>>> >>
>>> >>Thanks so much!!!!!!
>>> >>
>>> >>Mike
>>> >>
>>> >>&q

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Re: This music is amazing! [message #91749 is a reply to message #91630]

Mon, 22 October 2007 07:26

Brian Porick

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t;>>> Regards,
>>>>> Dimitrios
>>>>>
>>>>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey Chuck,
>>>>>> How come you offend my findings ?
>>>>>> Have you tried what I tried ?
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Dimitrios
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> no, there is no limiter on the outputs
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chuck
>>>>>>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well,
>>>>>>>> I was suspecting that for a long time but now I am convinced that
> Paris
>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>> a limiter in his outputs !!!!
>>>>>>>> Yes either the monitor outs or the LR outs have a limiter on its
>>>>>>>> outputs
>>>>>>>> that does not let anything go beyond that !
>>>>>>>> I found that -0.7 was a safe margin at the main outs and no matter
>> how
>>>>>> hard
>>>>>>>> I was driving the submixes and seprate cahnnels there were no overs
>>> !!
>>>>>>>> ou can see that on your mix that there is this chopped over waveform
>>>> !!
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Dimitrios
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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And some folks should...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D9_tk3W_HOdc&feature=3Dr elated
Tom

"Neil" <OIOIU@

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Mon, 22 October 2007 07:52

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;OI.com> wrote in message news:4752e34c$1@linux...

LOL!
The Jake E. Lee one is even better in a way, because the guy
also dubbed in Ozzy's handclaps over the "shredding".

Neil

"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DnCzUMjCykn8=20
>
>

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Mon, 22 October 2007 08:01

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n=20
Ozzy's handclaps over the "shredding".<BR><BR>Neil<BR><BR><BR><BR>"DJ" =

<animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net>=20
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Mon, 22 October 2007 09:37

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the 1 to 4KHZ range and lacking =
authentic=20
vocal sound character.<BR>Also, the bottom around 80hz is sometimes thin =
on the=20
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punch,<BR>polite=20
sounding snares and rolled off top on mixes.</STRONG></

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Mon, 22 October 2007 10:16

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------=_NextPart_000_079A_01C8351E.7F46B350--"Neil" <IO@OI.com> wrote in message news:475016d4@linux...
>
> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>
>>NS10's are popular because they basically equate to everyman's >generic
> cheap stereo setup.
>
> And because, people like hearing the question: "So, why do you
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Re: This music is amazing! [message #91776 is a reply to message #91757]

Mon, 22 October 2007 16:52

Sarah

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r /> >It only takes a little over an hour for the whole job once you've =
done =3D
>it a couple of times.
>
>Thanks to all that helped me through this namely Mike Audet, Rod =3D
>Lincoln, my tech Dave Matheson,
>Jon Jiles, Paul Artola, Justin LaPierre, Dimitrios, Deej, Kim and one =
=3D
>other person that I bought a Mec from
>whose name escapes me.
>
>Thanks to this whole group for all your answers!
>
>Bottom line - all is better than ever in Paris.
>Tom B.
>
>
>
>
>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
>
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><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>To all that helped or are =
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>interested,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>You may recall in July I had a =
major =3D
>league=3D20
>meltdown</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>of my 5 card/Magma/2 Mec, =
Lucid=3D20
>WC system.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I tried adding two more Mecs =
with a =3D
>Mixer Mixer to=3D20
>allow</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>4 aux buses to tie together.

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Re: This music is amazing! [message #91777 is a reply to message #91776]

Mon, 22 October 2007 17:14

dc[3]
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As =
=3D
>soon as I=3D20
>tied Mec #3 into</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>the mix Paris wouldn't =3D
>boot. Later I=3D20
>was taught me to remove the</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Paris Default Project from the =
Paris =3D
>folder to help=3D20
>this situation.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I then hastily booted up =3D
>Paris with=3D20
>a Mec half plugged in and sparks flew.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>That mec is unrepairable. We =3D
>tried. It smoked=3D20
>a chip in the Master section</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>labeled fP94AD</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=3D20
>size=3D3D2> =3D20
>DM74LS</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=3D20
>size=3D3D2> =3D20
>244WM</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I bought 10 of them =
(SN74LS244DW) at =3D
>Digikey.com=3D20
>for short money.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>After this point I could never =
get the
=3D
>clock lights=3D20
>to lock or Paris to work with or without the</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Lucid involved. My tech was =
right =3D
>in assuming=3D20
>the same chip was fried across</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>all of the other Mecs. I later =
=3D
>realized that=3D20
>a bent pin on 2 x SCSI 2 cables were</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>probably frying that same chip =
in every
=3D
>Mec I=3D20
>bought and tried (no smoke though).</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Fast forward. During all of =
this =3D
>I removed=3D20
>the Magma, Lucid and the main Paris computer.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I built a new (old) Paris =
computer =3D
>using=3D20
>Dimitrios' Root C installation. This has to be =3D
>helping.</FONT></DIV>

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Re: This music is amazing! [message #91793 is a reply to message #91777]

Mon, 22 October 2007 22:01

steve the artguy
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it's time =
>>to<BR>>go=20
>> sell video systems for the local music store.� Or drive a school=20
>> bus!<BR>> I'm told our county school system has great =
>>benefits.� I'm=20
>> about to turn<BR>>56.� Seems a little old to be trying to =
>>figure out=20
>> what I'm going to be<BR>when<BR>>I grow up!<BR>><BR>>Thanks =
>>for=20
>> listening. You people have felt a lot like friends to me =
>>over<BR>>the last=20
>> 5 - 6 years that I've been hanging out here almost every day.=20
>> <BR><BR>><BR>>Gantt<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
>><DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, =
>>and=20
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>>.html</A>��</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>>
>>
>Thanks for the suggestions guys

"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:4758879c$1@linux...
> Hi all
>
> I'm posting for a guitarist friend who's looking to get a better audio
> card to record and transfer files from his 002r
>
> He needs 2 audio inputs and the rest in light pipe -16 tracks minimum (he
> says)
>
> I suggested the Lynx series as a starting point for both quality and price
> and he thought that was reasonable
>
> Ant other suggestions.
>
> Please send links if you can so I can C&P them to him
>
> thanks in advance
>
>I'm getting ready to plug in the second EDS card. I got the WC cable
for the MEC-to-442 connection.

I forgot about the damn ribbon cables.

And it looks like when I bought my second EDS card several years ago,
all I got were the two larger cables, not the two smaller ones. I
didn't realize there were four internal connections as well.

Looks like I'll be limited to 16 channels tomorrow.

Damn.

Where can I get the small cables?

pabIf you want to be in pop, forget your chops, buy a lot of fog and lights,
sequence and hire pretty boys and girls on contract to surround you. Be
creative with visuals, because the 'music' part of that is dead in local pop
bands and ppl listen with their eyes.
Make it loud and thumping, and make it an event, or no one will show up/come
back. remember the golden rule: boobs sell beers. Advertise, push push push
and sell it. If anyone in your band forgets that, remind once then replace
because there is absolutely no forgiveness in local/regional band pop. Do
this and you'll likely quadruple your income figures or greater. Keep it up
and you might become a decent touring act. Put money away, because there is
no insurance, no retirement and no promises in that field.

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Re: This music is amazing! [message #91802 is a reply to message #91793]

Mon, 22 October 2007 23:10

dc[3]
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much Neil, and John and Don, Sarah, and Aaron for all the comments.
Every bit of what you folks had to say was helpful. I'm taking a brief
break, but I'm up in the studio making many of the changes folks suggested.
As to Ron's playing, the drums tracks speak for themselves. Amazing really.
It feels like I was in the room playing with him. (And I wasn't. I'm up
in the northeast and he's somewhere in tornado alley.) In the pocket -oh
yes! Ron's playing elevated my work ten fold. I'll let him go into specifics,
but by day I'm a lowly social worker and found his rates very reasonable.
I've got lots of other stuff that I want him to play on -wish I was an oil
tycoon! Thanks again all -very much appreciated.
MR

"Neil" <OIU@OI.com> wrote:
>
>OK, listened to it again & the toms still don't bother me...
>they just sound nice & full with a little bit of "wool", which
>becomes pretty apparent during the fills in the chorus
>sections - I like 'em. IMO, it's just that the vocals need
>to comme up a bit there, or evened out with compression or
>something like that. I also checked to see if I could find what
>Aaron had mentioned about the bass & I think i kinda see what
>he's saying, but I'm not positive... I don't feel like it's
>dropping out or that the song's losing its foundation anywhere,
>in any case. I'm listening on Dynaudio BM5A's, so they
>don't have a whole lot going on under 40hz that might be more
>apparent on something with larger woof's, so I wonder if that
>might be it???
>
>I like everything about it except for the couple of items I
>mentioned before.
>
>Rod, how much do you charge for doing tracks?
>
>Neil
>
>
>
>"Neil" <OI@OIU.com> wrote:
>>
>>Actually, I liked the PLAYING of the drums so much, I didn't
>>really notice anything frequency-wise that bothered me about
>>them... that doesn't say much about my critical listening
>>skills if there's something wrong and yet I was distracted by
>>the taste with which the part was played (because honestly, my
>>only thought about the drums at the time was something
>>like: "Wow, that's a great groove, right in the pocket").
>>
>>Dammit, Sarah, now I'm gonna have to go back & listen to it
>>again & see if I can find what you're talking about! lol
>>
>>Neil
>>
>>
>>"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>>>Wow, very nice Mike. I agree with the feedback so far. Definitely would
>>
>>>like to hear your nice vocals be more present. I would only add that

>>>there's something annoyingly boomy about the tom bits and they're masking
>>
>>>the vocal, too. Neil or someone could probably give you more specific
>>EQ
>>>advice there, or maybe it's just my tired ears. Aside from that, drums
>>
>>>sound great, the drumming, too . . . very tight, Mr Hot Rod Lincoln.
>>>
>>>S
>>>
>>>
>>>"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:475a2244$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> I've never tried this before -uploading a mix to a hosting service.

>>>> But...
>>>&

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Tue, 23 October 2007 11:02

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Tue, 23 October 2007 11:05

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Tue, 23 October 2007 16:09

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href=3D3D"news:47619bf0$1@linux">news:47619bf0$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>I
=3D
>havn't=3D20
> tried the demo yet. For some reason the timed demo's don't work =3D
>on<BR>my=3D20
> system. I just buy it...except last time I got burned by the =
no=3D20
> render<BR>bug...so I don't know what I'll do this =
time.<BR>Rod<BR>"Tom
=3D
>Bruhl"=3D20
> <<A href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
=3D
>
> wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>I have to assume it works and sounds =3D
>good. =3D20
> Anyone<BR>>tried it with Paris yet? I know Rod said =3D
>that<BR>>4.7=3D20
> and up won't render stereo with plugins anymore.<BR>><BR>>I =3D
>really want=3D20
> that thing!!! $50 off too with their Christmas=3D20
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Tue, 23 October 2007 17:18

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Re: This music is amazing! [message #91870 is a reply to message #91802]

Tue, 23 October 2007 19:32

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Re: This music is amazing! [message #91918 is a reply to message #91866]

Wed, 24 October 2007 11:49

Brian Porick

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these<BR>=3D<BR>><BR>>parts.</FONT></DIV> <BR>><DI=
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