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| Re: Just curious who is still using and who's moved on? [message #87715 is a reply to message #87714] |
Fri, 06 July 2007 19:40   |
Neil
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>what apple forums are for.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>I wonder if this has anything to do with the mystery instructions on the
core/core 2 intel CPUs... hmm...... have you run that MS/Intel patch?
Also curious, have you popped open Task Manager in Windows and looked at
what was going on?
IRQ sharing?
Could just be lousy coding on PT's part. Have you tried it on an AMD setup
per chance?
256 vid ram oughta be way more than enough.
AA
"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
news:46bd48ff$1@linux...
> N-Vidia GForce 8500 GT with 256 mg ram
> Martin Harrington
> www.lendanear-sound.com
> 0414 913 247
>
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
> news:46bd15ea@linux...
>> doh.. I mean what's the RAM on the video card.
>> Sorry, long day.
>>
>> AA
>>
>>
>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>> news:46bd1511$1@linux...
>>> Video related? I have to ask, what's the video card in question?
>>> AA
>>>
>>>
>>> "Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
>>> news:46bcff81$1@linux...
>>>>A question about PT, (off topic I know), but I have (sometimes use), PT
>>>>M powered.
>>>> I always thought my comp felt sluggish, or at least the screed redraws
>>>> looked sluggish, and that was on an Intel Core2 Duo 6600 with 2 gig of
>>>> ram..shouldn't be the case right?
>>>> Everything else seemed quite snappy...put not PT.
>>>> Well.... now I just built a Quad Core (Intel Q6600) with 4 gb ram and
>>>> an N-Videia 8500 card, (that was on the comp previously), and PT feels
>>>> just the same....
>>>> Is it PT?
>>>> The meters seem really sluggish although I can get really low latency
>>>> whist recording with no problems. the graphics are just crappy.
>>>> Any ideas guys?
>>>>
>>>> Martin Harrington
>>>> www.lendanear-sound.com
>>>> 0414 913 247
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
> --
>Hey guys - been lurking for a long time, haven't posted in years. But
I've just started working heavily with my Paris rig again, and though
I've scoured the depths of the newsgroup and been through my manual
cover to cover, there's one thing I can't seem to do. So I turn to you,
oh wise and helpful compadres!
How do I move (or delete) a whole track in freeform mode? I had to
insert some audio tracks to import all my audio, and my MIDI track got
stuck as track 34 or some such. Now I want to make it track 23, and I
can't seem to find any way to move or delete the track itself (not just
the objects). I can certainly add another MIDI track at #23, but then
I'd have this orphan MIDI track hanging out in the middle of nowhere.
Granted this does nothing more than affront my slightly OCD
sensibilities, but I have a hard time believing that Paris doesn't have
a track move/delete function. Am I missing it?
On a side note, has anyone thought to make a package of the original
Paris skin? I downloaded the new skins from the parisfaqs site, but I
didn't see the original skin. I'm working on the whole skinning for the
Mac bit, and I need a copy of the original BMP for comparison. If
anybody has them handy, could you send them along?
Thanks!!
MattHi Martin,
Are you using the machine for gaming?
What size power supply you trying to use with that 8500 card?
They need a minimum of 700 watt to even begin to be reliable.
Are you using the current drivers for the 8500 and are you using dual
monitors?
Are you using PT 7.31? If you are using anything earlier then it could
be PT acting up.
Chris
Martin Harrington wrote:
> A question about PT, (off
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| Re: Just curious who is still using and who's moved on? [message #87723 is a reply to message #87717] |
Fri, 06 July 2007 22:31 |
Tom Bruhl
Messages: 1368
Registered: June 2007
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gt;>>>
>>>> number
>>>>
>>>>>of people get irritated by it.
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm not going to go to an Apple group for Apple updates but like to
know
>>>>>what's going on in Apple land so...
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>
>>>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>It's 100 degrees in the shade here. I think I'm delirious.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Man what's up with you today? People post about all kinds of stuff
>>here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Chuck
>>>>>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I just want to know why he's spamming a Paris group with Apple crap.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>That's
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>what apple forums are for.
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>Poppycock. I high volume XP and 2003 servers that have been running stably,
>without infection or even rebooting, for literally years. It's not even
all
>that difficult. If you don't want to take the time to learn enough to secure
>and stabilize a Windows box then fine, pay what you want, but what you're
>paying for is your ignorance and unwillingness to learn, so you should call
>it what it is.
>
>TCB
>
>P.S. As you might know, I run linux whenever I have the choice.
It's not ignorance, some people choose to not deal with the hassle of administrating
and maintaining security software. Who wants to be a security administrator?
It is a costly, time consuming PITA! I think it's an unwillingness to
suck up to Microsoft and their "crappy" software.
>
>"Steve Helm" <shelm@radford.edu> wrote:
>>
>>Yeah, but having the stability and security of OS-X is worth much more
than
>>the difference in price between a PC and Mac.... especially in a pro environment.
>>
>>Steve
>>
>>Jeff Hoover <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote:
>>>Jusr for fun, I priced out one of the new Dell Vostro laptops (small
>>>business class)attempting to match the 15"macbook pro as best as
>>>possible (proc, ram, and HD size and speed, screen res, etc.). No extra
>>
>>>software or extended warranties.
>>>
>>>THe verdict:
>>>
>>>Dell Vostro 15" $1443
>>>Macbook Pro 15" $2074
>>>
>>>Still a ways to go.
>>>
>>>JH
>>>> I would agree... i'm not a "Mac guy", per se' but I've used
>>>> Macs & they're fine, and it's nice to know what other options
>>>> are out there.
>>>>
>>>> I look at it this way - someday they'll get their shit together
>>>> & price things accordingly to make it worth my while to buy one
>>>> LOL!
>>>>
>>>> Now, if only Ferrari would do the same :D
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Neil
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Hehe, yes I've got to agree with Chuck. It's pretty much a general purpose
>>>>>"music focussed anything goes" kinda group. Apple stuff is pretty much
>>on
>>>>>topic, but off topic is fine by me so long as it's not offensive or
taking
>>>>>over the group for weeks on end and annoying people as some of the politics
>>>>>stuff does. I actually like the political stuff too, but I know quite
>>a
>>>>
>>>> number
>>>>
>>>>>of people get irritated by it.
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm not going to go to an Apple group for Apple updates but like to
know
>>>>>what's going on in Apple land so...
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>
>>>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>It's 100 degrees in the shade here. I think I'm delirious.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Man what's up with you today? People post about all kinds of stuff
>>here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Chuck
>>>>>>>"John" <no@no.com>
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| Re: Just curious who is still using and who's moved on? [message #87729 is a reply to message #87723] |
Sat, 07 July 2007 04:29 |
Sarah
Messages: 608
Registered: February 2007
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>>> box, so I can and do run my current DAW 2048 ms latency, which as you
>know,
>>> takes a "big" strain off the system resources..
>>>
>>> I guess, I'm really really impressed with OS-X and the ability to run
>(true)XP
>>> (via Boot Camp)on one machine. As well as, being ready for the NEW Logic
>>> Audio..
>>>
>>> having said that, I would run Os-X on my current DAWs if Apple allow
for
>>> such. Yes, I know you can already do it(smile)..
>>>
>>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>> The interesting comparison would be to actually run the exact same project
>>>> on Cubase 4 under OSX and XP. 80 tracks and 5 verbs and 20 ren comps
>and
>>>> stock EQ wouldn't make my core 2 sweat either (I've run way more than
>that
>>>> with only 30% cpu load or so).
>>>>
>>>> Remember, the new macs are the exact same hardware as any core 2 or
dual
>>>> core 2 PC, though the components may not be as high end as I might build
>>> for
>>>> one of my rigs. The German Keyboards mag review apparently found XP
>to
>>> run
>>>> more plugins than OSX on the same hardware (intel dual core 2s).
>>>>
>>>> Basically all you are getting is a nice box with a different OS. It
>might
>>>> be better multi-threaded - I would like to see some actual comparisons.
>>> I
>>>> might have to load OSX on one of my PCs.
>>>>
>>>> Dedric
>>>>
>>>> On 8/10/07 9:16 AM, in article 46bc8130$1@linux, "LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey Dedric,. The reason for this change is that Iwas over to a buddys
>>> studio
>>>>> who btw runs PT-HD(8) Accel!! Yikes!! :) witha DM-2000.
>>>>>
>>>>> But, since his studio is commercial he has to run all the major DAWs.
>>> Cubase
>>>>> 3 is one of them. His DAW computer in Studio A is an G5 (Quad-non Intel)...
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, I ask him to do me a favor and let me see how Cubase SX3 runs
>on
>>> his
>>>>> Mac. So, for testting we imported various wav files from ProTool sessions.
>>>>> Around 80 track..
>>>>>
>>>>> We then activated 5 verbs on the sends.. Activated the on-board Eq(all
>>> 4
>>>>> bands). Called up about 20 Ren Comps..
>>>>> Hit the space bar..
>>>>> Ran liek a champ.. No skips hiccups.. Nothing...Mean while...In the
>back
>>>>> round. we were surfing the web ...Had about 4 pages open, along with
>...Pro
>>>>> Tools (HD) still open with a session..!!
>>>>>
>>>>> I was sold.. Because.. I assumes this machine as was one of newer (Intel)
>>>>> bases Macs Pros.. Nope..The G5 quad.
>>>>> Solid.. Solid Solid..
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't get me wrong, my AMD Opteron PCs are solid as well, but, OS_X
>and
>>> the
>>>>> ability to run XP as well, is a very powerful tandem to beat..
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>>> Hey Lamont - my rig only goes online to grab updates to audio apps,
>>>>>> registration/response codes (which is getting annoying), but never
>a
>>> problem
>>>>>> with that. But even on the net PC that's online all day with email,
>>> Skype,
>>>>>> etc, never had a virus, spyware, or malware. If OSX would only stop
>>> spam
>>>>>> mail from being sent (not filtered, but shot down at the source via
>a
>>> large
>>>>>> burst of electricity designed to fry any and all spammer computers,
>Apple
>>>>>> would really have something.... ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let me know how Nuendo runs on your new Mac though, seriously. You'll
>>> have
>>>>>> to wait for N4 to run on the dual core 2 Mac under OSX at least (should
>>>>> be
>>>>>> soon). I would be most interested in a head to head comparison of
>plugin
>>>>>> counts in the same project under Nuendo, not just similar projects,
>but
>>>>>> identical.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The last report I read comparing XP to OSX for DAW performance was
>from
>>>>>> Derek (used to be on this NG) - German Keyboards compared them and
>>>>>> apparently (I don't read German to confirm) XP won on plugin count
>and
>>> low
>>>>>> latency by a noticeable margin on the same hardware (even when run
>on
>>> the
>>>>>> same system as OSX via Bootcamp). He said even Logic ran better outside
>>>>>> OSX, but I'm not sure how that comparison was made since Logic 5 (Win)
>>> and
>>>>>> Logic 7 (OSX) might not be comparable. If OSX was a standalone OS,
>I
>>> would
>>>>>> buy it to have both and compare, but the fastest processing, lowest
>>>>>> bloat-factor OS would inevitably be the DAW system of choice for me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Dedric
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/9/07 8:23 PM, in article 46bbcc3f$1@linux, "lamont" <jjdpro@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I agree..after we complete this cd project i'll be moving on to our
>>> new
>>>>> Mac
>>>>>>> Pro(4 core) running Nuendo, PT and the new Apple Logic.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm really burned out with XP and viruses..with getting on the
>>>>>>> internet..sorry
>>>>>>> but u like being able to go on the internet on my daw.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll covert
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| Re: Just curious who is still using and who's moved on? [message #87750 is a reply to message #87633] |
Sat, 07 July 2007 11:08 |
Eugene B
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ruth is, we are all paying for the lack of scruples of hackers. MS and
Apple certainly have to, and should
protect the integrity of their OSs, but inevitably, users still pay for
whatever does or doesn't work in that regard (we get almost weekly security
updates from Apple via OSX update manager, so it isn't a non-issue).
But, when comparing the best choice for a given user and application,
viruses are hardly a main concern for those of us
that just don't put ourselves in a position to be at risk (just as I don't
buy stereos from guys in white vans in 7-11 parking lots...yep, seen that
one :-).
Not a virus or spyware in 10 years. Two system drives destroyed by kernel
panics (an OS should *never* crash a drive at the hardware level), a bad
motherboard, and a bad combo drive,
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| Re: Just curious who is still using and who's moved on? [message #87822 is a reply to message #87710] |
Mon, 09 July 2007 08:50 |
Rich[3]
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