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OT - see Venus in the daytime [message #86880]

Mon, 18 June 2007 14:34

steve the artguy
Messages: 308
Registered: June 2005

Senior Member

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> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Well here's what is =3D
> >happening.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I looked very closely at the =
>pins on =3D
> >the scsi=3D20
> >cables and noticed</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>a slightly bent one or two on =
>almost =3D
> >half of them=3D20
> >(5). I think it's</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>from being careless about =
>pushing them
> =3D
> >in. I=3D20
> >straightened them</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>perfectly and yet still no luck
=
>with =3D
> >booting=3D20
> >Paris. "No interface attached</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>to the Master Card" is the =3D
> >message. I'm only=3D20
> >using one mec to test.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I also tried the 442. Once in a
=
>=3D
> >while the=3D20
> >Magma wouldn't turn on with the</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>442 attached. I think that is =
>=3D
> >because of the=3D20
> >bent pins. That's good of</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>the Magma. </FONT><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3DArial=3D20
> >size=3D3D2>I've tried all five cards, removed the A card and swapped
=
>it=3D20
> ></FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>with another </FONT><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial
> =3D
> >size=3D3D2>still=3D20
> >no luck. </FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm lost in this quagmire now. =
>=3D
> >I'm not even=3D20
> >pissed about the busted mec</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>at this point. I want an answer
=
>=3D
> >to what is=3D20
> >going on. The default project </FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>is looking for external word =
>clock so =3D
> >that's my=3D20
> >only choice although I</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>have tried it with no Lucid =
>attached =3D
> >with the same=3D20
> >results.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I think I'll call =
>Edmund.</FONT></DIV>
> ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
> >style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>=3D
> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > <DIV>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.r.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.r.com</A>>=
>=3D
> > wrote=3D20
> > in message <A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D"news:469708c8$1@linux">news:469708c8$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>T=
>hat=3D
> > kinda=3D20
> > totally sucks. Sorry.<BR>rod<BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> > href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20
> > wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Hey Rod,<BR>>Ya I've been swapping =3D
> >things out=3D20
> > to no end just to be sure.<BR>>I even had trouble getting it going
=
>=3D
> >with=3D20
> > internal clock which ruled<BR>>out the Lucid in my =3D
> >mind.<BR>><BR>>The=3D20
> > latest news is I couldn't get it to boot at all with other =3D
> >Mecs<BR>>being=3D20
> > the master. In the process I smoked the original Mec =3D
> >A<BR>>because=3D20
> > the SCSI cable was half in at start up. I heard a =3D
> >crack<BR>>and then=3D20
> > the smell of burning chips. It still powers up but it's =3D
> >out<BR>>of=3D20
> > the picture now. Loaded with modules too.<BR>><BR>>Now =3D
> >nothing=3D20
> > gets it going except maybe the lowly 442. I'll try<BR>>that=3D20
> > next. I have a local engineer coming over to see =3D
> >what=3D3D20<BR>>Paris=3D20
> > can do. He's very well respected in these parts.<BR>>To bad =3D
> >I'm down=3D20
> > for the count it seems.<BR>>Ass<BR>><BR>> "Rod Lincoln" =3D
> ><<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A=
>>&g=3D
> >t;=3D20
> > wrote in message =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>news:4696c93b$1@linux...<BR>><BR>> Tom,=3D20
> > have you done anything to rule out the possibility that it may=3D20
> > be<BR>=3D3D<BR>>a funky<BR>> MEC word clock connection, or =3D
> >perhaps the=3D20
> > Lucid clock is flakey. Or =3D3D<BR>>even<BR>> a bad mogami =3D
> >wordclock=3D20
> > cable (I know that's a longshot, but=3D20
> > anything's<BR>=3D3D<BR>>possible)<BR>> Just a =3D
> >thought.<BR>> =3D20
> > Rod<BR>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> > href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20
> > wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> =3D20
> > >Deej,<BR>> >Ya, I've uninstalled, reinstalled Paris =3D
> >about five=3D20
> > times total in the<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >last day and =3D
> >a=3D20
> > half.<BR>> >I am close to starting from scratch and =3D
> >possibly doing=3D20
> > the antipace =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >thing.<BR>> =3D
> >>I'm=3D20
> > getting pretty good at it. I have Mec 1 loaded with cards=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>attached<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>> >to what has=3D20
> > always<BR>> >been Card A for three years. Can that change? =3D
> >Paris=3D20
> > works fine with =3D3D<BR>>just<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
> >>that=3D20
> > one. I'll try=3D3D3D20<BR>> >all the others in that =3D
> >position=3D20
> > just to see though.<BR>> ><BR>> >I am close to =3D
> >
> > starting from scratch and possibly doing the antipace=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >thing. How could that=3D20
> > be=3D3D3D20<BR>> >the evil that won't allow hardware to show =3D
> >
> > up?<BR>> >Thanks,<BR>> >Tom<BR>> =3D
> >> =3D20
> > "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message=3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>> >news:4696229c$1@linux...<BR>> =3D
> >> Have=3D20
> > you tested each MEC individually? I'd start there. Did you =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > >iuninstall/reinstall Paris yet?<BR>> =3D
> >> "Tom=3D20
> > Bruhl" <<A =3D
> >href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20
> > wrote in message =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
> >>news:4695d5bf@linux...<BR>> =3D20
> > > Sorry to shout but this is driving me=3D20
> > insane.<BR>> ><BR>> > I am =3D
> >working=3D20
> > with a cloned drive that used to work with<BR>> =3D20
> > > 2 Mecs and WC. Now no matter what I do, I =3D
> >can=3D20
> > not<BR>> > get a second Mec to show up =3D
> >and=3D20
> > receive clock. It<BR>> > doesn't =3D
> >matter if=3D20
> > it's at the end of the line or anywhere<BR>> =3D
> >> =3D20
> > else. It doesn't matter if it's internally clocked or=3D20
> > externally<BR>> > clocked. I've =3D
> >changed=3D20
> > Mecs, clock cables, SCSI cables<BR>> > =3D
> >and no=3D20
> > changes. I've even tried a reinstall of Paris.<BR>> =3D20
> > > Same deal. =3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >><BR>> =3D20
> > > I must be doing something totally wrong for =3D
> >this to=3D20
> > continue.<BR>> > The only thing else I =3D
> >can think=3D20
> > to try is swapping the last=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >> EDS card=3D20
> > with another or go down to four. Maybe it's<BR>> =3D20
> > > card 5? Or, triple check the connectors =3D
> >between=3D20
> > all the cards<BR>> > =3D
> >again.<BR>> =3D20
> > ><BR>> > All EDS cards are up and =3D
> >running and=3D20
> > play audio with Paris =3D3D<BR>>effects.<BR>> =3D
> >> =3D20
> > All 5 cards share 3 IRQs with nothing else.<BR>> =3D20
> > > What else is there?<BR>> =3D20
> > > Sadly,<BR>> > =3D20
> > Tom<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> =3D
> >> =3D20
> > I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?<BR>> =3D20
> > > <A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
>fer=3D
> >.html</A> =3D20
> > =3D3D20<BR>> ><BR>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC =3D
> >"-//W3C//DTD=3D20
> > HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"><BR>> =3D20
> > ><HTML><HEAD><BR>> ><META=3D20
> > http-equiv=3D3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D3D"text/html; =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > >charset=3D3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>> ><META =3D
> >content=3D3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D20
> > 6.00.2800.1400" name=3D3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>> =3D20
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> >></HEAD><BR>> =3D20
> > ><BODY bgColor=3D3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>> =3D
> >><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3D3DArial =3D
> >size=3D3D3D3D2>Deej,</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Ya, I've =3D
> >uninstalled,=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>reinstalled Paris<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
> >>about=3D20
> > five=3D3D3D20<BR>> >times total in the last day and a=3D20
> > half.</FONT></DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>I am close to starting from =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>scratch=3D20
> > and<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
> >>possibly=3D3D3D20<BR>> >doing=3D20
> > the antipace thing.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>I'm getting =3D
> >pretty good=3D20
> > at it. I<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >have Mec =3D
> >1=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > >loaded with cards attached to what has=3D20
> > always</FONT></DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>been Card A for three years.=3D20
> > Can<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >that =3D
> >change?=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > >Paris works fine with just that one. I'll try=3D20
> > </FONT></DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2>all the others in that =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>></FONT><FONT=3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>> >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > >size=3D3D3D3D2>position just to see=3D20
> > though.</FONT></DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT =3D
> >
> > face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> =3D
> ></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>I am close to =3D
> >starting=3D20
> > from =3D3D<BR>>scratch and<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > >possibly=3D3D3D20<BR>> >doing the antipace thing. How =3D
> >could that=3D20
> > be </FONT></DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>the evil that won't allow =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>hardware to=3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>> >show=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > >up?</FONT></DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT =3D
> >
> > face=3D3D3D3DArial =3D
> >size=3D3D3D3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
> >><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
> > dir=3D3D3D3Dltr=3D3D3D20<BR>> >style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: =3D
> >0px;=3D20
> > PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: =3D
> >0px"><BR>> =3D20
> > > <DIV>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> =3D
> >wrote in=3D20
> > message <A =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> ><BR>> =3D
> >> =3D20
> > href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D'news:4696229c$1@linux">news:4696229c$1@linux</A>...</DIV'>news=
>:46=3D
> >96229c$1@linux">news:4696229c$1@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>=3D
> >> =3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Have =3D
> >you tested=3D20
> > each MEC =3D3D3D<BR>> >individually? I'd =3D
> >start=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > there. Did you iuninstall/reinstall Paris=3D20
> > yet?</FONT></DIV><BR>> > <BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
> > dir=3D3D3D3Dltr=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =3D
> >style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px;=3D20
> > PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
> >
> > >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: =3D
> >0px"><BR>> =3D20
> > > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" =3D
> ><<A=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arp=
>egi=3D
> >o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >wrote in=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > message <A =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
> >>href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D'news:4695d5bf@linux">news:4695d5bf@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:469=
>5d5=3D
> >bf@linux">news:4695d5bf@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>>&nbs=3D
> >p;=3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =3D
> >size=3D3D3D3D2>Sorry=3D20
> > to shout but this is =3D3D<BR>>driving<BR>> =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > >me=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =3D20
> > insane.</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D20
> > </DIV><BR>> > <DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>I am working with a cloned =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>drive=3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>> >that used to=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >> =3D20
> > work with</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
> >> =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>2 Mecs and WC.=3D20
> > </FONT><FONT<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =3D
> >size=3D3D3D3D2>Now=3D20
> > no matter what I do, I can not</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =3D
> >size=3D3D3D3D2>get a=3D20
> > second Mec to show up<BR>=3D3D<BR>>and =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > >receive=3D3D3D20<BR>> > clock.=3D20
> > It</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>doesn't matter if =3D
> >it's at=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>the end =3D3D3D<BR>> >of the =3D
> >line=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > or =3D
> >anywhere</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =3D
> >size=3D3D3D3D2>else.=3D20
> > It doesn't matter if =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
> >>it's=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > internally clocked or=3D20
> > externally</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
> >> =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>clocked. I've =3D
> >changed=3D20
> > Mecs,<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >clock =3D
> >cables,=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > SCSI =3D
> >cables</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =3D
> >size=3D3D3D3D2>and no=3D20
> > changes. I've even =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >tried =3D
> >a=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > reinstall of=3D20
> > Paris.</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Same deal.=3D20
> > </FONT></DIV><BR>> > =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D20
> > </DIV><BR>> > <DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>I must be doing something =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>totally=3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>> >wrong for=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >> this=3D20
> > to continue.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
> >> =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>The only thing =3D
> >else I can=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>think to<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>> >try=3D20

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Re: OT - see Venus in the daytime [message #86886 is a reply to message #86880]

Tue, 19 June 2007 01:26

Sarah

Messages: 608
Registered: February 2007

Senior Member

u are using in =3D
>combination with=3D20
> the orientation of the ribbon=3D3D20<BR>> cables will determine =3D
>this.=3D20
> Have you changed them around during =3D3D<BR>>your=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>
> reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Start with a new SCSI =3D
>cable and a=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>single EDS=3D3D20<BR>> card. Test each MEC. Once you =3D
>know if=3D20
> there is a problem there, add a<BR>=3D3D<BR>>new =3D
>SCSI=3D3D20<BR>> cable=3D20
> and another card. Put different modules in the MECs so you can =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>see=3D20
> which=3D3D20<BR>> one is on card A, B, C at all times. this =3D
>will give you=3D20
> the info =3D3D<BR>>as to=3D3D20<BR>> how the cards are =3D
>initializing and=3D20
> which card is card A, B, C as you =3D3D<BR>>start=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>adding more=3D20
> hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that were=3D20
> working<BR>=3D3D<BR>><BR>> perfectly when I took my system =3D
>off line. I=3D20
> can't imagine it being a =3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D3D20<BR>> Bent =3D
>pins on SCSI=3D20
> cables can be a serious issue though. Your system =
=3D3D<BR>>will=3D20
> not=3D3D20<BR>> function with bad SCSI=3D20
> =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>cables.</FONT></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>=3D
>;</BODY></HTML><BR>><BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
>&

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Re: OT - see Venus in the daytime [message #86888 is a reply to message #86886]

Tue, 19 June 2007 02:37

steve the artguy
Messages: 308
Registered: June 2005

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TYLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hey Rod,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hiding the default project didn't help=20
anything.  I've never</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>had 2.?? installed on this comp so I =
think I'm safe=20
there regarding</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>drivers.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am only able to intermitantly get the =
442 working=20
as the master.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think that's do to the scsi cable =
issue.  I=20
need four new ones.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am unable to get more than one EDS =
card working=20
WITH the 442.</FONT></

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Re: OT - see Venus in the daytime [message #86890 is a reply to message #86888]

Tue, 19 June 2007 08:52

Larry Upton

Messages: 30
Registered: October 2006

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/> like a champ one card only.  I suspect<BR>>either all my Mecs =
are=20
screwy now or the SCSI cables are intermitant =
at<BR>=3D<BR>>best.<BR>>It's=20
working fine with the 442 so I'm sticking with that for =
today.<BR>>I'll add=20
my EDS cards one by one and see if that is back to=20
normal.<BR>><BR>>Thanks for the help and if I need scsi cables =
what and=20
where to buy them<BR>=3D<BR>>would be good info too.<BR>>Mr=20
Testy<BR>>  "Rod Lincoln" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g=
t;=20
wrote in message =
=3D<BR>>news:469780ce$1@linux...<BR>><BR>>  I=20
think Tom was asking if there was a "3.0" version of the EDS card=20
=3D<BR>>that needed<BR>>  to be connected to the master. =
The answer=20
to that would be no.=3D20<BR>>  Is this

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Re: OT - see Venus in the daytime [message #86898 is a reply to message #86890]

Tue, 19 June 2007 12:20

rick

Messages: 1976
Registered: February 2006

Senior Member

amp;lt;BR>>start=3D3D20<BR&gt ;> =3D<BR>>adding=20
more=3D20<BR>>  hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that=20
were=3D20<BR>>  =
working<BR>=3D3D<BR>>& ;lt;BR>>=20
perfectly when I took my system =3D<BR>>off line. =
I=3D20<BR>>  can't=20
imagine it being a =3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D3D20<BR& ;gt;> =
Bent=20
=3D<BR>>pins on SCSI=3D20<BR>>  cables can be a serious =
issue though.=20
Your system =3D3D<BR>>will=3D20<BR>>  =
not=3D3D20<BR>>=20
function with bad SCSI=3D20<BR>> =20
=
=3D<BR> >=3D3D<BR>>cables.</FONT& amp;gt;</DIV></DIV&gt=
;</BLOCKQUOTE>=3D<BR> >;</BODY></HTML><B R>>&=
lt;BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE&a mp;gt; <BR>><DIV><FONT=20
size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
spam,=20
=
=3D<BR>>and=3D20<BR>>you?<BR><A=3D20 <BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.co

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Re: OT - see Venus in the daytime [message #86902 is a reply to message #86888]

Tue, 19 June 2007 12:36

Jamie K

Messages: 1115
Registered: July 2006

Senior Member

"mailto:dc@spammersinhell.com" target="_blank">dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote in message news:4694700a$1@linux...
>
> I find that the rooms work much better in the whole mix than you
> expect them to from what they sound like soloed.
>
> DC
>
>
> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>I'm a big Non-Linear fan. I like the plates, but the room's I'm finding
> I
>>steer away from mostly. The Non-Linear is very handy, and I'd be
>>interested
>>to see what I can do combining it with a plate...
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>>
>>"Neil" <OUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>IMO, always thought the rooms suck bigtime... the Plates are
>>>great, though.... stick with the Plates & minimal early
>>>reflections, and expand the HF rolloff so that it's not too
>>>dark & you'll be a happy camper!
>>>
>>>For rooms, go find another plugin.
>>>
>>>Neil
>>>
>>>
>>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>

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Re: OT - see Venus in the daytime [message #86918 is a reply to message #86902]

Tue, 19 June 2007 23:16

steve the artguy
Messages: 308
Registered: June 2005

Senior Member

lt;BR>>card =
>A, =3D
> >B, C at=3D20
> > all times. this will give you the info as to how the =
>=3D3D<BR>>cards =3D
> >are=3D20
> > initializing and which card is card A, B, C as you start =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>adding more=3D20
> > hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that were working =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>perfectly=3D20
> > when I took my system off line. I can't imagine it being a =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D20
> > Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue though. Your =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>system=3D20
> > will not function with bad SCSI cables.<BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE =3D
> >HTML=3D20
> &g

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