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| OT: CompUSA goes bye bye [message #93434] |
Sat, 08 December 2007 10:50  |
Dedric Terry
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reference, the 714CE would cost around $2800). I don't know many
>>>>>>>> luthiers, and the ones I do know have a worldwide reputation (and
>>>>>>>> are therefore not making guitars for $2800 - more like $5k and up).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> While reading Taylor reviews, I've seen several references to the
>>>>>>>> Martin OMC-Aura, so I went to try it out. I found it to be
>>>>>>>> incredibly ugly, but quite playable, although the action is typical
>>>>>>>> Martin (i.e. high action, a guitar that you have to dig in hard).
>>>>>>>> Since I play mostly electric, the nice low action of Taylors is
>>>>>>>> appealing to me.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anyone out there able to make some suggestions? General or specific,
>>>>>>>> good or bad, I'm quite open to any ideas.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Dan
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>thanks. i definitely want major critiques. others are telling me the same
things regarding organ too loud (horns, hi hat too) and others said bring
the bass up a notch. What stereo treatment are you refering too? Everything?
guitars, drums, keys?
And what's a "vix up a CH.."? Thanks for listening !!
"Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
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>great sounds John,
>Wondering if you want mix critiques?
>Most of my thoughts are simply level tweaks
>I'd bring that organ/rhodes type of keys way down..blowing away the bass
>and drums that are the heart beat of the shit. ALso that stereo treatment
>is too distracting from the song..And the horns and keys are too out front...
>Also bring the vix up a CH..
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>Let the song chill a bit.. don't try so hard to make a "mix"
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>Just my thoughts...very close and better sounds than I ever get
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>Remember the lyric is where it is at..Listen to Culture or G Isaacs to get
>in vibe.
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>Ya mon!
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>
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
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| Re: OT: CompUSA goes bye bye [message #93437 is a reply to message #93434] |
Sat, 08 December 2007 15:09  |
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yle 1x12 amp designed to be a stereo add
>>> on to a regular combo (it has no real preamp). I play either a custom
>>> Strat style guitar or an Ibanez Artist 335 style, depending on the
>>> gig. I'm overall pretty happy with the Tonelab and Mesa tone and
>>> feel, but I am looking for more sounds and options, and versatility
>>> like having a decent bass sound or an acoustic sound, plus better f/x
>>> would be way cool.
>>>
>>> The thing I dig about my current rig is it feels very responsive and
>>> is very playable, if you know what i mean. Does the VG99 feel like a
>>> real amp setup, presuming you run it through a good tube power
>>> section lie a 2020? By the way, I rarely play heavy rock any more. I
>>> usually play funk, R&B, fusion or jazz.
>>>
>>> alex plasko wrote:
>>>> bill, I should have been more specific.I should have said that I'm
>>>> not crazy about the Les Paul models.It may be more the way the patch
>>>> is written than the actual model
>>>> The patches using the standard humbuckers and P90's just don't sound
>>>> right to me.again im saying the factory patches , not the potential
>>>> of the VG99.
>>>> Part of it may also be the amp models they used for those patches.
>>>> This thing is endlessly tweakable.
>>>> 2 separate ,simultaneous guitar models,2 separate simultaneous
>>>> amp/effects chains ,filters,EQ,flexible routing ,sheesh......
>>>> and then buss EQ/effects after that.
>>>> you want a Rick 360 and a danelectro56 through a Marshall stack and
>>>> a Solano SLO100 at the same time? no problem.
>>>> you want altered tuning? the impossible is possible with this thing.
>>>> sticking a pickup at the 12th fret ?what?
>>>> sorry for being unclear about the electric models.
>>>> The VG99 has some serious processing power(double the previous)
>>>> It fills so many needs I think everyone should get one.
>>>> A VG99 through a stereo tube amp like a mesa 20/20 would be very
>>>> convenient for gigs.
>>>> an
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| Re: OT: CompUSA goes bye bye [message #93439 is a reply to message #93437] |
Sat, 08 December 2007 14:40 |
Dedric Terry
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>>>>>>> one. The comment in question comes up frequently in various
>>>>>>> review databases, and goes along these lines: apparently, the
>>>>>>> Variax 700 has a significant deficiency in the sustain area
>>>>>>> (enough to be considered an unacceptable compromise by several
>>>>>>> reviewers).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So Jamie (and anyone else who "believes" in the Variax): did you
>>>>>>> find such a flaw in the Variax's sustain? How usable is it
>>>>>>> really? And (as an add-on bonus question) how convincing and
>>>>>>> artifact-free are the altered tunings? Would you trust it enough
>>>>>>> to buy one via mail order?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks to all again,
>>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:47963ccf$1@linux...
>>>>>>>> For live acoustic guitar gigs I currently use a Line 6 Variax
>>>>>>>> 700 Acoustic modeling guitar. This is the one that looks like an
>>>>>>>> acoustic guitar, not the PRS-ish looking electric 700 version,
>>>>>>>> although I have one of those too.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The acoustic 700 VAX sounds quite good through the PA. It
>>>>>>>> doesn't feed back. Even when using the built-in compressor which
>>>>>>>> is really nice to use on fingerpicked songs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Acoustically it's fairly quiet, good for late night practicing
>>>>>>>> without waking anyone. But without plugging it in, it's not a
>>>>>>>> booming sing-around-the-campfire acoustic guitar.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It has multiple guitar models to choose from including several
>>>>>>>> that are bread and butter, plus a few non-guitar models like
>>>>>>>> banjo, sitar and mandella.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It also can do alternate tunings on the fly (via DSP so not
>>>>>>>> quite as great as tuning them yourself, but for live it's fine
>>>>>>>> and - important for shows - instant). It can also imitate a 12
>>>>>>>> string (again via DSP).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It
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| Re: OT: CompUSA goes bye bye [message #93443 is a reply to message #93439] |
Sat, 08 December 2007 20:11 |
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>>>>>>> has. I use mine with a Brian Moore DC-1/13 and there are no
>>>>>>> artifacts ,any tuning imaginablealot more flexibility in designing
>>>>>>> your own models etc.
>>>>>>> you can install a GK-2 pickup on any guitar if you don't have or
>>>>>>> want one with one built in.
>>>>>>> there is absolutely NO delay as with a midi guitar setup.
>>>>>>> there is also a midi out if you would like to drive a synth
>>>>>>> from the VG99.
>>>>>>> there are allot of models built in and infinite ways to vary
>>>>>>> those.I'm not crazy about the electric guitar models but the
>>>>>>> acoustic models kick ass.
>>>>>>> way too much for me to write about now.
>>>>>>> and it can be had for around $1000
>>>>>>> the martin D-28 model is my favorite so far.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "D.P." <ottawarocks@netscape.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:47989b01@linux...
>>>>>>>> Once again, thanks to all for the contributions...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> All this dialog has given me a wicked idea: instead of shelling out
>>>>>>>> almost $3K on a Taylor, I could get for roughly the same amount
>>>>>>>> both a decent Breedlove chosen mainly for its acoustic properties,
>>>>>>>> *and* a Variax 700 for live playing where a "reasonable" substitute
>>>>>>>> is good enough.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But I read some comments on the Variax that make me nervous - I
>>>>>>>> cannot find a Variax locally, and may have to (gulp!) mail-order
>>>>>>>> one. The comment in question comes up frequently in various review
>>>>>>>> databases, and goes along these lines: apparently, the Variax 700
>>>>>>>> has a significant deficiency in the sustain area (enough to be
>>>>>>>> considered an unacceptable compromise by several reviewers).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So Jamie (and anyone else who "believes" in the Variax): did you
>>>>>>>> find such a flaw in the Variax's sustain? How usable is it really?
>>>>>>>> And (as an add-on bonus question) how convincing and artifact-free
>>>>>>>> are the altered tunings? Would you trust it enough to buy one via
>>>>>>>> mail order?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks to all again,
>>>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:47963ccf$Report message to a moderator
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| Re: OT: CompUSA goes bye bye [message #93444 is a reply to message #93443] |
Sat, 08 December 2007 19:29 |
Dedric Terry
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to:1@linux..." target="_blank">1@linux...
>>>>>>>>> For live acoustic guitar gigs I currently use a Line 6 Variax 700
>>>>>>>>> Acoustic modeling guitar. This is the one that looks like an
>>>>>>>>> acoustic guitar, not the PRS-ish looking electric 700 version,
>>>>>>>>> although I have one of those too.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The acoustic 700 VAX sounds quite good through the PA. It doesn't
>>>>>>>>> feed back. Even when using the built-in compressor which is really
>>>>>>>>> nice to use on fingerpicked songs.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Acoustically it's fairly quiet, good for late night practicing
>>>>>>>>> without waking anyone. But without plugging it in, it's not a
>>>>>>>>> booming sing-around-the-campfire acoustic guitar.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It has multiple guitar models to choose from including several
>>>>>>>>> that are bread and butter, plus a few non-guitar models like
>>>>>>>>> banjo, sitar and mandella.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It also can do alternate tunings on the fly (via DSP so not quite
>>>>>>>>> as great as tuning them yourself, but for live it's fine and -
>>>>>>>>> important for shows - instant). It can also imitate a 12 string
>>>>>>>>> (again via DSP).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It looks good, with nice grain on the top. It's has a shallow
>>>>>>>>> body. It plays well. The upper strings have 24 frets, very rare
>>>>>>>>> for an acoustic.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's more affordable than a high-end acoustic, and therefore less
>>>>>>>>> of a risk at gigs. It sounds as good or better through a PA than
>>>>>>>>> any other acoustic guitar I've heard.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The only acoustic guitar thing it doesn't do well is body slaps,
>>>>>>>>> which is probably why it never feeds back.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The output is mono. I do use it for recording direct sometimes. It
>>>>>>>>> sits nicely in the track and is good for L/R panned part doubling
>>>>>>>>> using different models.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> D.P. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I'm usually an electric player, but I need to buy a decent
>>>>>>>>>> acoustic (with electronics). I tried a bunch of brands, and seem
>>>>>>>>>> to be converging towards a Taylor (something along the 714CE or
>>>>>>>>>> 814CE).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Before I commit to an actual purchase, I wanted to ask around for
>>>>>>>>>> any potential advice. As much as I'd love to buy from a luthier,
>>>>>>>>>> I don't think I'll get much traction with my planned budget (as a
>>>>>>>>>> reference, the 714CE would cost around $2800). I don't know many
>>>>>>>>>> luthiers, and the ones I d
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| Re: OT: CompUSA goes bye bye [message #93462 is a reply to message #93444] |
Sun, 09 December 2007 11:20 |
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t;> It's not modeling nirvana yet, but 2 steps closer than last year.
>>>>
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>>>> http://www.rolandus.com/products/productdetails.aspx?ObjectI d=849&skip=true&page=video&file=vg-99_demo_video _pt1.flv
>>>> "Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:479a4e65@linux...
>>>>> Kool, Alex. I'm currently using a Vox Tonelab into a Mesa Boogie
>>>>> Satellite which is a combo style 1x12 amp designed to be a stereo add
>>>>> on to a regular combo (it has no real preamp). I play either a custom
>>>>> Strat style guitar or an Ibanez Artist 335 style, depending on the gig.
>>>>> I'm overall pretty happy with the Tonelab and Mesa tone and feel, but I
>>>>> am looking for more sounds and options, and versatility like having a
>>>>> decent bass sound or an acoustic sound, plus better f/x would be way
>>>>> cool.
>>>>>
>>>>> The thing I dig about my current rig is it feels very responsive and is
>>>>> very playable, if you know what i mean. Does the VG99 feel like a real
>>>>> amp setup, presuming you run it through a good tube power section lie a
>>>>> 2020? By the way, I rarely play heavy rock any more. I usually play
>>>>> funk, R&B, fusion or jazz.
>>>>>
>>>>> alex plasko wrote:
>>>>>> bill, I should have been more specific.I should have said that I'm not
>>>>>> crazy about the Les Paul models.It may be more the way the patch is
>>>>>> written than the actual model
>>>>>> The patches using the standard humbuckers and P90's just don't sound
>>>>>> right to me.again im saying the factory patches , not the potential of
>>>>>> the VG99.
>>>>>> Part of it may also be the amp models they used for those patches.
>>>>>> This thing is endlessly tweakable.
>>>>>> 2 separate ,simultaneous guitar models,2 separate simultaneous
>>>>>> amp/effects chains ,filters,EQ,flexible routing ,sheesh......
>>>>>> and then buss EQ/effects after that.
>>>>>> you want a Rick 360 and a danelectro56 through a Marshall stack and a
>>>>>> Solano SLO100 at the same time? no problem.
>>>>>> you want altered tuning? the impossible is possible with this thing.
>>>>>> sticking a pickup at the 12th fret ?what?
>>>>>> sorry for being unclear about the electric models.
>>>>>> The VG99 has some serious processing power(double the previous)
>>>>>> It fills so many needs I think everyone should get one.
>>>>>> A VG99 through a stereo tube amp like a mesa 20/20 would be very
>>>>>> convenient for gigs.
>>>>>> anyway your going to have to get one to dig in on the capability of
>>>>>> this thing cause a store demo wont give you the picture, unless you
>>>>>> spend a day with the manual.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I"Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:479a14f7@linux...
>>>>>>> Alex, I'm interested in something you wrote, "I'm not
>>>>>>> crazy about the electric guitar models..." Really? I would have
>>>>>>> expected the electric guitars to be best. What's wrong with them?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> alex plasko wrote:
>>>>>>>> if you get a Roland VG99 you wont have the issues that the variax
>>>>>>>> has. I use mine with a Brian Moore DC-1/13 and there are no
>>>>>>>> artifacts ,any tuning imaginablealot more flexibility in designing
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