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Ok.. When 64 bit mainstrean win OS.. [message #86967] Thu, 21 June 2007 11:14 Go to next message
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rote:<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> =3D20
> ><BR>> > "Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote =3D
>in message=3D20
> =3D3D3D<BR>> >news:46972376@linux...<BR>> =3D
>> This is=3D20
> really a novice oriented question but . . .<BR>> > =3D
>It=3D20
> doesn't matter which card is the "A" card<BR>> > in =3D
>your=3D20
> system as far as Paris' ID orientation right?<BR>> =3D
>><BR>> =3D20
> > Yes, it does, and the orientation of the slots you are =3D
>using in=3D20
> =3D3D3D<BR>> &
Re: Ok.. When 64 bit mainstrean win OS.. [message #86969 is a reply to message #86967] Thu, 21 June 2007 11:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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the<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >cards =3D
>are=3D20
> initializing and which card is card A, B, C as you start=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >adding more hardware. the MEC i =3D
>sent you is one=3D20
> of 4 that were =3D3D<BR>>working =3D3D3D<BR>> >perfectly =3D
>when I took my=3D20
> system off line. I can't imagine it being =3D
>a<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> >problem. Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue =
though.=3D20
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Re: Ok.. When 64 bit mainstrean win OS.. [message #86972 is a reply to message #86969] Thu, 21 June 2007 11:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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D20<BR>> > =3D
>.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>It =3D
>doesn't matter=3D20
> which card =3D3D<BR>>is the =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
>>"A"=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > card</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>in your system as =3D
>far as=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>Paris' ID =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
>>orientation=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > right?</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D20
> </DIV><BR>> > <DIV><BR>> =3D
>> =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Yes, it does, and =3D
>the=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>orientation of<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>> >the=3D20
> slots=3D3D3D20<BR>> > you are using in combination =3D
>with the=3D20
> orientation of the =3D3D<BR>>ribbon=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =3D
>cables will=3D20
> determine this. Have you changed them around during =3D
>=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> >your=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =3D20
> reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D20
> </DIV><BR>> > <DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D3D2>Start with a new SCSI cable =3D3D<BR>>and a =3D
>=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> >single EDS=3D3D3D20<BR>> > card. Test each MEC. =3D
>Once you=3D20
> know if there is a problem there, add<BR>=3D3D<BR>>a<BR>> =3D20
> =3D3D3D<BR>> >new SCSI=3D3D3D20<BR>> > cable =3D
>and another=3D20
> card. Put different modules in the MECs so you =3D3D<BR>>can =3D
>=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> >see which=3D3D3D20<BR>> > one is on card A, B, C =3D
>at all=3D20
> times. this will give you the info =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
>>as=3D20
> to=3D3D3D20<BR>> > how the cards are initializing and =3D
>which card=3D20
> is card A, B, C as =3D3D<BR>>you =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
>>start=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that =3D
>
Re: Ok.. When 64 bit mainstrean win OS.. [message #86974 is a reply to message #86972] Thu, 21 June 2007 12:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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> ><BR>> ><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>I choose =3D
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> Lockspam to fight spam, and=3D20
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> bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> =3D
>size=3D3D3D2>Guys,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I'm all set with the cables and the =
=3D
>=3D3D<BR>>which=3D20
> card is =3D
>A=3D3D20<BR>>bit.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Rod you were right about what I=3D20
> =3D
>was=3D3D20<BR>>asking.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FO=3D
>NT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =3D
></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>In any event I scaled down to one =
EDS=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>(Pretty sure=3D3D20<BR>>that's card A=3D20
> right?!!!)</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>and plugged it into each of my two=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>working=3D3D20<BR>>Mecs. Paris will boot=3D20
> but</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =3D
>
> size=3D3D3D2>even internal clock was never found =3D
>nor<BR>=3D3D<BR>>were=3D20
> the=3D3D20<BR>>in/outs on each=3D20
> Mec.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>The 442 on the other hand works like =3D
>a<BR>=3D3D<BR>>champ=3D20
> one=3D3D20<BR>>card only. I=3D20
> suspect</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>either all my Mecs are screwy now or =
=3D3D<BR>>the=3D20
> SCSI=3D3D20<BR>>cables are intermitant at=3D20
> best.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>It's working fine with the 442 so I'm =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>sticking=3D20
> with=3D3D20<BR>>that for=3D20
> today.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>I'll add my EDS cards one by one and =3D3D<BR>>see if =
=3D
>that=3D20
> is=3D3D20<BR>>back to=3D20
> normal.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3
Re: Ok.. When 64 bit mainstrean win OS.. [message #86975 is a reply to message #86974] Thu, 21 June 2007 12:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>Thanks for the help and if I need =3D
>scsi<BR>=3D3D<BR>>cables=3D20
> what=3D3D20<BR>>and where to buy them would be good info=3D20
> too.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>Mr=3D20
> =3D
>Testy</FONT></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20<BR>>style=3D3D=3D
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> <<A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
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>href=3D3D'mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A=
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>A>&g</A>=3D3D<BR>>t;=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> wrote in message <A=3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D'news:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>I=
'>n=3D
>ews:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV>&l=3D
>t;BR>I</A><BR>=3D3D<BR>>think=3D20
> Tom=3D3D20<BR>> was asking if there was a "3.0" version of the =3D
>EDS card=3D20
> that =3D3D<BR>>needed<BR>to be=3D3D20<BR>> connected to =3D
>the master.=3D20
> The answer to that would be no. <BR>Is this =3D3D<BR>>what=3D20
> you=3D3D20<BR>> were asking Tom?<BR>DJ's advice is very =3D
>important=3D20
> though. I would do =3D3D<BR>>it, if=3D3D20<BR>> you haven't=3D20
> already.<BR>I don't want to sound like a "RTFM" kind of =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>guy,=3D20
> but=3D3D20<BR>> the Paris manual describes<BR>this =3D
>procedure pretty=3D20
> well.<BR>It's on =3D3D<BR>>page 4=3D3D20<BR>> and 5 of =3D
>the 3.0=3D20
> version.<BR>It kind of sounds to me like you may=3D20
> not<BR>=3D3D<BR>>be=3D3D20<BR>> hooking up the correct eds=3D20
> card<BR>to the master =3D
>mec.<BR>Rod<BR>"DJ"=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net>=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> "Tom =3D
>Bruhl"=3D20
> <<A=3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> =3D
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>href=3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arp=
egi=3D
>o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=3D20
> wrote =3D3D<BR>>in message=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> =3D3D3D<BR>>news:46972376@linux...<BR>> This is really =3D
>a=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>novice oriented=3D3D20<BR>> question but . . =3D
>.<BR>> It=3D20
> doesn't matter which card is the =3D3D<BR>>"A"=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
>
Re: Ok.. When 64 bit mainstrean win OS.. [message #86976 is a reply to message #86972] Thu, 21 June 2007 13:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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; card<BR>> in your system as far as Paris' ID=3D20
> orientation=3D3D20<BR>> right?<BR>><BR>> Yes, =3D
>it does,=3D20
> and the orientation of the =3D3D<BR>>slots=3D3D20<BR>> you are =3D
>using in=3D20
> =3D3D3D<BR>>combination with the orientation of the=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>ribbon=3D3D20<BR>> cables will determine =3D
>=3D3D3D<BR>>this.=3D20
> Have you changed them around =3D3D<BR>>during your=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>
> reconfiguration?<BR>><BR>> Start with a new SCSI =3D
>cable and=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>a=3D3D20<BR>> single EDS card. Test each MEC.=3D20
> Once<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>you know if there =3D3D<BR>>is=3D20
> a=3D3D20<BR>> problem there, add a new SCSI cable and another=3D20
> =3D3D3D<BR>>card. Put =3D3D<BR>>different=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>modules in the=3D20
> MECs so you can see which one is on =3D3D3D<BR>>card A, =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>B, C=3D20
> at=3D3D20<BR>> all times. this will give you the info as to how =3D
>the=3D20
> =3D3D3D<BR>>cards =3D3D<BR>>are=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>initializing and which=3D20
> card is card A, B, C as you start =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>adding =3D
>
> more=3D3D20<BR>> hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that =3D
>were=3D20
> working =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>perfectly=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>when I took my=3D20
> system off line. I can't imagine it being a=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D3D20<BR>> Bent pins on =3D
>SCSI cables=3D20
> can be a serious issue though. Your=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>system=3D3D20<BR>> will not =3D
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> =3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D3D2>It =3D
>doesn't matter which=3D20
> card is the =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>"A"=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> card</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D3D2>in your =3D
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Re: Ok.. When 64 bit mainstrean win OS.. [message #86978 is a reply to message #86976] Thu, 21 June 2007 14:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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n=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>of<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>the=3D20
> slots=3D3D3D20<BR>> you are using in =3D3D<BR>>combination=3D20
> with=3D3D20<BR>> the orientation of the =3D
>ribbon=3D3D3D20<BR>> cables=3D20
> will determine =3D3D<BR>>this.=3D3D20<BR>> Have you changed =3D
>them around=3D20
> during =3D3D3D<BR>>your=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>=3D3D<BR>><BR>> =3D20
> reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV><BR>>=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =3D
>=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Start with a new =3D
>SCSI=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>cable and a=3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>>single=3D20
> EDS=3D3D3D20<BR>> card. Test each MEC. Once you =3D3D<BR>>know =3D
>
> if=3D3D20<BR>> there is a problem there, add=3D20
> a<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>new =3D3D<BR>>SCSI=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>
> cable=3D3D20<BR>> and another card. Put different modules in =3D
>the MECs so=3D20
> you can =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>see=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> which=3D3D3D20<BR>> one is on card A, B, C at all times. this=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>will give you=3D3D20<BR>> the info =3D
>=3D3D3D<BR>>as=3D20
> to=3D3D3D20<BR>> how the cards are =3D3D<BR>>initializing=3D20
> and=3D3D20<BR>> which card is card A, B, C as you=3D20
> =3D3D3D<BR>>start=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>adding=3D20
> more=3D3D20<BR>> hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that=3D20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rod,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am working from a clone that was =
totally good=20
with two</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>fully loaded Mecs.&nbsp; I have to =
assume the=20
drivers are good.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm looking for a good vendor for SCSI =
cables=20
now.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>They're called SCSI 2 =
right?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
href=3D"http://www.m2cables.com/SCSI2toSCSI2CablesHDB50MtoML6.html">http:=
//www.m2cables.com/SCSI2toSCSI2CablesHDB50MtoML6.html</A></FONT ></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm thinking of cleaning the female =
jacks on the=20
mec and EDS to be</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>sure all is well.&nbsp; Any sprays =
anyone=20
suggests?&nbsp; I've got Deoxit.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Good?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Rod Lincoln" &lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g=
t;=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:4697f7e2$1@linux">news:4697f7e2$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Tom,=
sounds=20
like it probably is a scsi issue. Your running xp right? The =
new<BR>Scherzo=20
drivers are for xp verses 98 not for 3.0 verses 2.x<BR>Come to think =
of it.=20
you probably whoudn't have had any old drivers on your<BR>xp sys drive =

anyway...never mind.<BR>Rod<BR>"Tom Bruhl" &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>&gt;=20
wrote:<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Hey Rod,<BR>&gt;Hiding the default =
project=20
didn't help anything.&nbsp; I've never<BR>&gt;had 2.?? installed on =
this comp=20
so I think I'm safe there regarding<BR>&gt;drivers.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;I =
am only=20
able to intermitantly get the 442 working as the master.<BR>&gt;I =
think that's=20
Re: Ok.. When 64 bit mainstrean win OS.. [message #86982 is a reply to message #86978] Thu, 21 June 2007 15:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Ludwig is currently offline  Chris Ludwig   UNITED STATES
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br /> &gt;Thanks for the help and if I need scsi cables what and where to =
buy=20
=3D<BR>&gt;them<BR>&gt;&nbsp; =3D3D<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;would be good =
info=20
too.<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;Mr Testy<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; "Rod Lincoln" =
&lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g=
t;=20
wrote in message =3D3D<BR>&gt;&nbsp; =
&gt;news:469780ce$1@linux...<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; I think Tom was asking if there was a =
"3.0"=20
version of the EDS card<BR>=3D<BR>&gt;=3D3D<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;that=20
needed<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; to be connected to the master. The =
answer to=20
that would be no.=3D3D20<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; Is this what you =
were asking=20
Tom?<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; DJ's advice is very important though. I =
would do=20
it, if you haven't<BR>=3D<BR>&gt;=3D3D<BR>&gt;&nbsp; =
&gt;already.<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;&nbsp; I don't want to sound like a "RTFM" kind of guy, but the =
Paris=20
=3D<BR>&gt;manual<BR>&gt;&nbsp; =3D3D<BR>&gt;&nbsp; =
&gt;describes<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;&nbsp; this procedure pretty well.<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; It's =
on page 4=20
and 5 of the 3.0 version.<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; It kind of sounds =
to me=20
like you may not be hooking up the =
correct<BR>=3D<BR>&gt;eds<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
=3D3D<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;card<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; to the master=20
mec.<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; Rod<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; "DJ" =
&lt;animix _=20
at _ animas _ dot _ net&gt; wrote:<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; =
&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;&nbsp; &gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; &gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; =

&gt;&nbsp; "Tom Bruhl" &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>&gt; wrote =
in message=20
=3D3D3D<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; =
&gt;news:46972376@linux...<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; This is really a novice oriented question but . =
..=20
.<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; It doesn't matter which card is =
the "A"=20
card<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; in your system as far as =
Paris' ID=20
orientation right?<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; &gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;&nbsp; Yes, it does, and the orientation of the slots you are =
using=20
in<BR>=3D<BR>&gt;=3D3D3D<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; &gt;combination with =
the=20
orientation of the ribbon cables will =
=3D<BR>&gt;determine<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
=3D3D<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;=3D3D3D<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; &gt;this. =
Have you=20
changed them around during your reconfiguration?<BR>&gt;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; Start with a new SCSI cable =
and a=20
single EDS card. Test each =3D<BR>&gt;MEC. =3D3D<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;Once<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; =3D3D3D<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; =
&gt;you know=20
if there is a problem there, add a new SCSI cable and =
=3D3D<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;another =3D3D3D<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; &gt;card. Put different =
modules in=20
the MECs so you can see which one =3D<BR>&gt;is =3D3D<BR>&gt;&nbsp; =
&gt;on=20
=3D3D3D<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; &gt;card A, B, C at all times. this =
will give=20
you the info as to how =3D<BR>&gt;the<BR>&gt;&nbsp; =
=3D3D<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;=3D3D3D<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; &gt;cards are initializing and =
which card=20
is card A, B, C as you start<BR>=3D<BR>&gt;=3D3D<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;=3D3D3D<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; &gt;adding more hardware. the MEC =
i sent=20
you is one of 4 that were =3D3D<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;working =
=3D3D3D<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;&nbsp; &gt;perfectly when I took my system off line. I can't =
imagine it=20
being<BR>=3D<BR>&gt;a<BR>&gt;&nbsp; =3D3D<BR>&gt;&nbsp; =
&gt;=3D3D3D<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;&nbsp; &gt;problem. Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious =
issue=20
though. =3D<BR>&gt;Your<BR>&gt;&nbsp; =3D3D<BR>&gt;&nbsp; =
&gt;=3D3D3D<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;&nbsp; &gt;system will not function with bad SCSI =
cables.<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
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&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; &lt;DIV&gt;"Tom Bruhl" =
&lt;&lt;A=3D3D3D20<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; href=3D3D3D3D"<A=20
=
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3D<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
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message=3D3D3D20<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; &lt;A =3D<BR>&gt;href=3D3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:469723=
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p;=20
&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; &lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2&gt;This is really a =
novice<BR>=3D<BR>&gt;=3D3D<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;oriented =3D3D3D<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; &gt;question but .=20
.=3D3D3D20<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;=20
.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbs
Re: Ok.. When 64 bit mainstrean win OS.. [message #87008 is a reply to message #86976] Fri, 22 June 2007 06:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
TCB is currently offline  TCB
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the slots you are =
> >using in=20
> > =3D3D<BR>> >combination with the orientation of the ribbon =
> >cables=20
> > will determine<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >this. Have you =
> >changed them=20
> > around during your reconfiguration?<BR>> ><BR>> =20
> > > Start with a new SCSI cable and a single EDS card. Test =
> >each MEC.=20
> > =3D<BR>>Once<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> >you know if =
> >there is a=20
> > problem there, add a new SCSI cable and =3D<BR>>another =
> >=3D3D<BR>> =20
> > >card. Put different modules in the MECs so you can see which one =
> >is=20
> > =3D<BR>>on =3D3D<BR>> >card A, B, C at all times. this =
> >will give=20
> > you the info as to how the<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >cards =
> >are=20
> > initializing and which card is card A, B, C as you start=20
> > =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >adding more hardware. the MEC i =
> >sent you is one=20
> > of 4 that were =3D<BR>>working =3D3D<BR>> >perfectly =
> >when I took my=20
> > system off line. I can't imagine it being =
> >a<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =20
> > >problem. Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue though.=20
> > Your<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >system will not function =
> >with bad SCSI=20
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> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
> >size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
> > </DIV><BR>> > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl"=20
> > <<A=3D3D20<BR>> > href=3D3D3D"<A=20
> > =
> >href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
> >o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=20
> > =3D<BR>>wrote =3D3D<BR>> >in =
> >message=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
> > <A href=3D3D3D"<A=20
> > =
> >href=3D'news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:469723=
> >76@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>>&nbs=
> >p;=20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>This =
> >is really a=20
> > novice =3D<BR>>oriented =3D3D<BR>> >question but .=20
> > .=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> >.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>It =
> >doesn't matter=20
> > which card =3D<BR>>is the =3D3D<BR>> =
> >>"A"=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> > > card</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>in your system as =
> >far as=20
> > =3D<BR>>Paris' ID =3D3D<BR>> =
> >>orientation=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> > > right?</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
> > </DIV><BR>> > <DIV><BR>> =
> >> =20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Yes, it does, and =
> >the=20
> > =3D<BR>>orientation of<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> >the=20
> > slots=3D3D20<BR>> > you are using in combination =
> >with the=20
> > orientation of the =3D<BR>>ribbon=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> >cables will=20
> > determine this. Have you changed them around during =
> >=3D3D<BR>> =20
> > >your=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
> > reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
> > </DIV><BR>> > <DIV><FONT =
> >face=3D3D3DArial=20
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> >=3D3D<BR>> =20
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> >Once you=20
> > know if there is a problem there, add<BR>=3D<BR>>a<BR>> =20
> > =3D3D<BR>> >new SCSI=3D3D20<BR>> > cable =
> >and another=20
> > card. Put different modules in the MECs so you =3D<BR>>can =
> >=3D3D<BR>> =20
> > >see which=3D3D20<BR>> > one is on card A, B, C =
> >at all=20
> > times. this will give you the info =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =
> >>as=20
> > to=3D3D20<BR>> > how the cards are initializing and =
> >which card=20
> > is card A, B, C as =3D<BR>>you =3D3D<BR>> =
> >>start=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> > > adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that =
> >were=20
> > =3D<BR>>working<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> =
> >><BR>> > =20
> > perfectly when I took my system off line. I can't imagine it=20
> > being<BR>=3D<BR>>a =3D3D<BR>> =
> >>problem.=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> > > Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue though. =
> >Your=20
> &
Re: Ok.. When 64 bit mainstrean win OS.. [message #87015 is a reply to message #87008] Fri, 22 June 2007 08:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
LaMont is currently offline  LaMont
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d=20
> > =3D<BR>>a=3D20<BR>> single EDS card. Test each MEC.=20
> > Once<BR>=3D3D<BR>>you know if there =3D<BR>>is=20
> > a=3D20<BR>> problem there, add a new SCSI cable and another=20
> > =3D3D<BR>>card. Put =3D<BR>>different=3D20<BR>> =
> >modules in the=20
> > MECs so you can see which one is on =3D3D<BR>>card A, =
> >=3D<BR>>B, C=20
> > at=3D20<BR>> all times. this will give you the info as to how =
> >the=20
> > =3D3D<BR>>cards =3D<BR>>are=3D20<BR>> =
> >initializing and which=20
> > card is card A, B, C as you start =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>adding =
> >
> > more=3D20<BR>> hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that =
> >were=20
> > working =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>perfectly=3D20<BR>> =
> >when I took my=20
> > system off line. I can't imagine it being a=20
> > =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D20<BR>> Bent pins on =
> >SCSI cables=20
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Re: Ok.. When 64 bit mainstrean win OS.. [message #87018 is a reply to message #87015] Fri, 22 June 2007 08:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
TCB is currently offline  TCB
Messages: 1261
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> TC - Digital Konnekt x32
>>>>> Digital router, sample rate converter and Firewire interface with a
few
>>>
>>>>> tricks.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.tcelectronic.com/Default.asp?Id=11321
>>>>>
>>>>> Price?
>>>>>
>>>>> Gene
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>Vary cool product. It's too bad it's not 32x32. I'll bet the price will
be painful, but I hope not. Anybody know what the price is?

"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>
>
>TC - Digital Konnekt x32
>Digital router, sample rate converter and Firewire interface with a few
tricks.
>
>http://www.tcelectronic.com/Default.asp?Id=11321
>
>Price?
>
>Gene
>Only price ref I have seen is £880.
G

"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Vary cool product. It's too bad it's not 32x32. I'll bet the price will
>be painful, but I hope not. Anybody know what the price is?
>
>"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>TC - Digital Konnekt x32
>>Digital router, sample rate converter and Firewire interface with a few
>tricks.
>>
>>http://www.tcelectronic.com/Default.asp?Id=11321
>>
>>Price?
>>
>>Gene
>>
>You are, of course, just mentioning this to twist the knife........right?

(actually, there is a Win driver called ASIO4all that is supposed to
accomplish this. Last I heard, it sucked big time.

;o)

"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:469a5933@linux...
>
> On a Mac you can aggregate PCI(e) and Firewire interfaces to build one
> large
> I/O system. Is this possible under XP?
>
> Gene
>
> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>If the driver will suport two + units, it might be a monster with a
>>dedicated 4 x port FW PCIe card, especially if you can further
>>merge/interpatch within the software control panel. I'd probably look
>>pretty
>
>>hard at this if the price was right. I'm currently doing pretty much what
>
>>this will do using 4 x Behringer SRC 2496 units along with an RME ADI4-DD
>
>>for real time SRC for two of my outboard reverbs and interpatching various
>
>>other I/O through a Frontier Apache and M-Audio C03 units to connect the
>
>>other digital processors, SMUX I/O of my converters and the I/O of my
>>slave
>
>>computer with the free I/O of the master computer. It's a daunting
>>scenario.
>
>>I have written an I/O sheet (small manual) for this that I have memorized
>
>>and the faceplates of the gear are all labelled as well. Same thing with
> all
>>of the midi I/O I have here. There's a lot of it and it is interpatched
>
>>through an Ensoniq KMX-16. This is only about half as insane as things
> were
>>when I was integrating Paris with the Cubase DAW. I watched the entire
>>video
>
>>demo and this looks like they were reading my mind.....which may be why
> they
>>stopped before it got too complex and twisted....but there is no midi I/O
> on
>>this interface, is there? Didn't see any. That may be a show stopper. Does
>
>>anyone make a decent (large) midi interface now that Steinberg
>>discontinued
>
>>the Midex?
>>
>>;o)
>>
>>
>>"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message
>>news:C2BFAA72.B6CD%dterry@keyofd.net...
>>> Since you can daisy chain the Konnekt interfaces via TCNear networking,
>
>>> and
>>> this one has it as well, I would guess Konnekt 32 can as well, but the
> I
>>> would wonder whether the firewire port can handle more than 16 in and
> out
>>> at
>>> the same time.
>>>
>>> Dedric
>>>
>>> On 7/15/07 10:16 AM, in article 469a4843$1@linux, "Gene Lennon"
>>> <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Funny, that's the first question I had. That and price.
>>>> Gene
>>>>
>>>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>>> Is it possible to daisy chain two of these?
>>>>>
>>>>> ;o)
>>>>>
>>>>> "Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:469a38a4@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TC - Digital Konnekt x32
>>>>>> Digital router, sample rate converter and Firewire interface with a
> few
>>>>
>>>>>> tricks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.tcelectronic.com/Default.asp?Id=11321
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Price?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gene
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>OK, so for $2000.00 I can get an interface with no midi ports......right?


"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:469a77d2$1@linux...
>
> Only price ref I have seen is £880.
> G
>
> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Vary cool product. It's too bad it's not 32x32. I'll bet the price will
>>be painful, but I hope not. Anybody know what the price is?
>>
>>"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>TC - Digital Konnekt x32
>>>Digital router, sample rate converter and Firewire interface with a few
>>tricks.
>>>
>>>http://www.tcelectronic.com/Default.asp?Id=11321
>>>
>>>Price?
>>>
>>>Gene
>>>
>>
>http://cooldrives.com/1popcto4xpci.htmlOn 7/15/07 11:28 AM, in article 469a5933@linux, "Gene Lennon"
<glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:

>
> On a Mac you can aggregate PCI(e) and Firewire interfaces to build one large
> I/O system. Is this possible under XP?
>
> Gene

Mixed manufacturers? What kind of latency are you getting with sample
library VSTi's and mixed firewire/PCIe?

My Fireface 800 doesn't have the low latency of the PCI HDSP system, so I'm
curious if when mixing the two, latency is subject to the limitation of the
firewire interface, or if the Mac/Core audio manages it better than XP
might.

With XP/PC you can add interfaces from one manufacturer, but I doubt
Firewire and PCIe would be elegant - the only time I tried it the Firewire
interface was only connected for access to its' control panel - only the PCI
interface handled direct I/O.

I also agree with James on the Konnekt - 32x32 would be much more attractive
if used as an interface and not just a converter/patchbay, but I fear that's
a firewire limitation.

Dedric

>
> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>> If the driver will suport two + units, it might be a monster with a
>> dedicated 4 x port FW PCIe card, especially if you can further
>> merge/interpatch within the software control panel. I'd probably look pretty
>
>> hard at this if the price was right. I'm currently doing pretty much what
>
>> this will do using 4 x Behringer SRC 2496 units along with an RME ADI4-DD
>
>> for real time SRC for two of my outboard reverbs and interpatching various
>
>> other I/O through a Frontier Apache and M-Audio C03 units to connect the
>
>> other digital processors, SMUX I/O of my converters and the I/O of my slave
>
>> computer with the free I/O of the master computer. It's a daunting scenario.
>
>> I have written an I/O sheet (small manual) for this that I have memorized
>
>> and the faceplates of the gear are all labelled as well. Same thing with
> all
>> of the midi I/O I have here. There's a lot of it and it is interpatched
>
>> through an Ensoniq KMX-16. This is only about half as insane as things
> were
>> when I was integrating Paris with the Cubase DAW. I watched the entire video
>
>> demo and this looks like they were reading my mind.....which may be why
> they
>> stopped before it got too complex and twisted....but there is no midi I/O
> on
>> this interface, is there? Didn't see any. That may be a show stopper. Does
>
>> anyone make a decent (large) midi interface now that Steinberg discontinued
>
>> the Midex?
>>
>> ;o)
>>
>>
>> "Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message
>> news:C2BFAA72.B6CD%dterry@keyofd.net...
>>> Since you can daisy chain the Konnekt interfaces via TCNear networking,
>
>>> and
>>> this one has it as well, I would guess Konnekt 32 can as well, but the
> I
>>> would wonder whether the firewire port can handle more than 16 in and
> out
>>> at
>>> the same time.
>>>
>>> Dedric
>>>
>>> On 7/15/07 10:16 AM, in article 469a4843$1@linux, "Gene Lennon"
>>> <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Funny, that's the first question I had. That and price.
>>>> Gene
Re: Ok.. When 64 bit mainstrean win OS.. [message #87045 is a reply to message #87018] Fri, 22 June 2007 13:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
LaMont is currently offline  LaMont
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ya Jeff,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>At least half the times no C-16 was=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Do you think that a bad C-16 cable =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'll remove them from the setup until =
all is=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I know&nbsp;at least a&nbsp;few times =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Jeff Hoover" &lt;<A=20
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<A=20
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href=3D"news:4699b378@linux">news:4699b378@linux</A>...</DIV>Tom,<BR><BR>=
Stupid=20
question, but did you ever start up without any c16's?&nbsp; If so did =
<BR>you=20
see the same issue?<BR><BR>Jeff<BR><BR><BR>Bruhl wrote:<BR>&gt; =
Rod,<BR>&gt; I=20
am working from a clone that was totally good with two<BR>&gt; fully =
loaded=20
Mecs.&nbsp; I have to assume the drivers are good.<BR>&gt; I'm looking =
for a=20
good vendor for SCSI cables now.<BR>&gt; They're called SCSI 2 =
right?<BR>&gt;=20
<A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.m2cables.com/SCSI2toSCSI2CablesHDB50MtoML6.html">http:=
//www.m2cables.com/SCSI2toSCSI2CablesHDB50MtoML6.html</A><BR >&gt;&nbsp;=20
<BR>&gt; I'm thinking of cleaning the female jacks on the mec and EDS =
to=20
be<BR>&gt; sure all is well.&nbsp; Any sprays anyone suggests?&nbsp; =
I've got=20
Deoxit.<BR>&gt; Good?<BR>&gt; Tom<BR>&gt; =
<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
"Rod Lincoln" &lt;<A=20
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wrote:<BR> &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=2 0
&gt;<BR> &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=2 0
&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;Hey=20
Rod,<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;Hiding the default =
project=20
didn't help anything.&nbsp; I've =
never<BR> &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=2 0
&gt;had 2.?? installed on this comp so I think I'm safe there=20
regarding<BR> &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=2 0
&gt;drivers.<BR> &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=2 0
&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;I am only able to =
intermitantly=20
get the 442 working as the =
master.<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;I=20
think that's do to the scsi cable issue.&nbsp; I need four new=20
ones.<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;I am unable to get =
more than=20
one EDS card working WITH the =
442.<BR> &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=2 0
&gt;Not sure why.&nbsp; The ribbons are all wired=20
correctly.<BR> &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=2 0
&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;I'm off to a hellish =
gigging=20
weekend.&nbsp; No more time for hell in=20
Paris.<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;Thanks for all your=20
input,<BR> &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=2 0
&gt;Tom<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; "Rod Lincoln" =
&lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A><B=
R>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&lt;<A=20
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href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.co=
m</A>&gt;&gt;=20
wrote in message =3D<BR> &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=2 0
&gt;news:4697ab8a@linux...<BR> &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=2 0
&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; Did you try =
hiding the=20
default ppj to see if it would boot up<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
with a=20
=3D<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;MEC=20
when<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; creating a new=20
session?=3D20<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;=20
Rod<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; "Tom Bruhl" =
&lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A> &lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">mailto:arpegio@comcast.net</A>&gt;&gt=
;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
wrote:<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;Guys,<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; &gt;I'm all =
set=20
with the cables and the which card is A=20
bit.<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; &gt;Rod you were =
right=20
about what I was asking.<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; &gt;In any event =
I=20
scaled down to one EDS (Pretty sure that's=20
card<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; A=20
=3D3D<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;right?!!!)<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; =
&gt;and=20
plugged it into each of my two working Mecs.&nbsp; Paris=20
will<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; boot=20
but<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; &gt;even internal =
clock=20
was never found nor were the in/outs =
on<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; each=20
Mec.<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; &gt;The 442 on =
the other=20
hand works like a champ one card only.&nbsp; I=20
=3D<BR> &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=2 0
&gt;suspect<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; =
&gt;either all my=20
Mecs are screwy now or the SCSI cables =
are<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
intermitant<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
=3D<BR> &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=2 0
&gt;at<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;=20
=3D3D<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;best.<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; &gt;It's =
working=20
fine with the 442 so I'm sticking with that for=20
today.<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; &gt;I'll add =
my EDS=20
cards one by one and see if that is back to=20
normal.<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; &gt;Thanks for =
the help=20
and if I need scsi cables what and where =
to<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
buy =3D<BR> &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=2 0
&gt;them<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;=20
=3D3D<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; &gt;would be =
good info=20
too.<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; &gt;Mr=20
Testy<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; "Rod =

Lincoln" &lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A><B=
R>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.co=
m</A>&gt;&gt;=20
wrote in message =3D3D<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;news:469780ce$1@linux...<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; I =
think Tom=20
was asking if there was a "3.0" version of =
the<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
EDS card<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
=3D<BR> &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=2 0
&gt;=3D3D<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; &gt;that=20
needed<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; to =
be=20
connected to the master. The answer to that would=20
be<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
no.=3D3D20<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; =
Is this=20
what you were asking Tom?<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;&nbsp; DJ's advice is very important though. I would do it, if=20
you<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
haven't<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
=3D<BR> &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=2 0
&gt;=3D3D<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;already.<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp; I=20
don't want to sound like a "RTFM" kind of guy, but the Paris=20
=3D<BR> &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=2 0
&gt;manual<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;=20
=3D3D<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;describes<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp; this=20
procedure pretty well.<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;&nbsp; It's on page 4 and 5 of the 3.0=20
version.<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; =
It kind=20
of sounds to me like you may not be hooking up=20
the<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
correct<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
=3D<BR> &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=2 0
&gt;eds<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;=20
=3D3D<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;card<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; =
to the=20
master mec.<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;=20
Rod<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; "DJ"=20
&lt;animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net&gt;=20
wrote:<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;=20
"Tom Bruhl" &lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A><BR>&gt;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">mailto:arpegio@comcast.net</A>&gt;&gt=
; wrote=20
in message =3D3D3D<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;news:46972376@linux...<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; This is really a novice oriented question but . =
..=20
.<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp; It=20
doesn't matter which card is the "A"=20
card<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp; in=20
your system as far as Paris' ID orientation=20
right?<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;=20
Yes, it does, and the orientation of the slots you=20
are<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; using =
in<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
=3D<BR> &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=2 0
&gt;=3D3D3D<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;combination with the orientation of the ribbon cables will=20
=3D<BR> &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=2 0
&gt;determine<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;=20
=3D3D<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;=3D3D3D<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;this. Have you changed them around during your=20
reconfiguration?<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;=20
Start with a new SCSI cable and a single EDS card. Test each=20
=3D<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;MEC.=20
=3D3D<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;Once<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;=20
=3D3D3D<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; =
&gt;you know=20
if there is a problem there, add a new SCSI=20
cable<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; and=20
=3D3D<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; &gt;another=20
=3D3D3D<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; =
&gt;card.=20
Put different modules in the MECs so you can see=20
which<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; one=20
=3D<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n
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=3D3D<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; &gt;champ=20
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=3D3D<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; &gt;the=20
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