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| Re: Kansas [message #69671 is a reply to message #69668] |
Mon, 26 June 2006 01:11   |
Dubya Mark Wilson
Messages: 108
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ce the L/R
positioning
> in
> >>a mix. Everything sound open and detailed. Not muddy at all. The tracks
> just
> >>seem to bounce off the walls that are created by the Quantec soundstage
> in
> >>conjunctiopn with the pan positions. It just sounds right and realistic.
> Of
> >>course, I've been trying to mix this acoustic project like a rock song
> so
> >>I'm bummed because i don't get to overprocess my mix now, but
hey........I'm
> >>learning.
> >>
> >>;o)
> >>
> >and my ax212 sits orpaned
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>Free Gearbox?
>
>Will it bolt on the back of a Holden 253? My Trimatic auto is slipping in
>second on occasion...?
>
>;o)
>
>"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>Mac/Intel Mac,Windows: gtr port, PodXT, PodXT Pro, PodXT Live, ToneportUX1
>
>>and UX2.
>>New free models included and some cool bass stuff too.
>>Go get 'em.
>>
>> http://line6.com/software/index.html?name=GearBox&submit _form=set
>>
>>AA
>>
>>
>Hmmm... I don't know which slots they're in. My first card was in my Magma
13 slot expander for a while (not slot 1...) and after being fine for a while
it stopped working. I put it in the G4 and it began working again and when
I bought a second card I put it in the computer too, but I don't know which
slots. I'll look!
Thanks,
gantt
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>I know that some people said that they had some problems when they had too
>much memory allocated to paris, but I haven't had any problems. You could
>always try adjusting it though. Did you add any memory recently? Some
times
>that will mess things up.
>
>You might try moving the UAD-1 cards around. I think they are suppose to
>be in the number 1 and number 2 PCI slots. Don't quote
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| Re: Kansas [message #69672 is a reply to message #69670] |
Mon, 26 June 2006 01:16 |
Dubya Mark Wilson
Messages: 108
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me on that; )
>
>James
>
>"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>Hi James,
>>
>>Thanks for your responses to my questions... I have 1 gig of memory assigned
>>to Paris. Don't the plugins get their memory from Paris? Is 1 gig too
>much?
>>
>>Gantt
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>The noise could be a power supply issue, I'm not sure.
>>>
>>>If your having crashes, allocate more memory to the programs. That is
>usually
>>>the first thing everybody forgets to do. I hope that helps.
>>>
>>>James
>>>
>>>"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Are there any other Mac guys using the UAD-1 plugins? I'm getting weird
>>>noises
>>>>- clicks and pops and loud fog-horn-like noises when I use the UAD-1
plugins.
>>>> It seems like I'm OK if I only use them on 4, maybe 5 tracks, but if
>my
>>>>usage meter gets up over 40% - 50% the strangeness begins. I have two
>>>cards,
>>>>so I would think I'd be able to run more plugins without problems. The
>>>UA
>>>>guys won't even try to help me once they find out I'm running Paris in
>>OS
>>>>9! I tried re-installing Paris and the UAD-1 3.9 drivers withg no luck...
>>>> I may try re-installing OS 9.
>>>>
>>>>I'm also having more crashes than usual, but I don't know that I can
attribute
>>>>them to UAD-1 issues.
>>>>
>>>>Gantt
>>>
>>
>I just had a guy at UA tell me that I need v3.9 in order for my trial runs
to work, so I upgradeed from v3.8. v3.9 is the last to work w Mac OS 9.
Gantt
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>I know that v4.0 would not run on Win 9x. v3.9 was the last version that
>will work with Paris on Win ME. Perhaps the same thing happened with UAD-1
>software and Mac OS9 and everything after v3.7 needs OSX?
>
>Deej
>
>
>"Mike Mullin" <lunarlordship@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>news:44dbd89d$1@linux...
>>
>> I think if you move back to version 3.7 your problems
>> will go away. They did for me.
>> cheers,
>> Mike
>>
>> "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >Are there any other Mac guys using the
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| Re: Kansas [message #69673 is a reply to message #69672] |
Mon, 26 June 2006 07:22 |
Deej [1]
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UAD-1 plugins? I'm getting weird
>> noises
>> >- clicks and pops and loud fog-horn-like noises when I use the UAD-1
>plugins.
>> > It seems like I'm OK if I only use them on 4, maybe 5 tracks, but if
my
>> >usage meter gets up over 40% - 50% the strangeness begins. I have two
>> cards,
>> >so I would think I'd be able to run more plugins without problems. The
>> UA
>> >guys won't even try to help me once they find out I'm running Paris in
OS
>> >9! I tried re-installing Paris and the UAD-1 3.9 drivers withg no
>luck...
>> > I may try re-installing OS 9.
>> >
>> >I'm also having more crashes than usual, but I don't know that I can
>attribute
>> >them to UAD-1 issues.
>> >
>> >Gantt
>>
>
>Cool, I'm waiting on the VTS/Rtas plugin versions..
"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>Mac/Intel Mac,Windows: gtr port, PodXT, PodXT Pro, PodXT Live, ToneportUX1
>and UX2.
>New free models included and some cool bass stuff too.
>Go get 'em.
>
> http://line6.com/software/index.html?name=GearBox&submit _form=set
>
>AA
>
>errr.............wouldn't that be AmpFarm VST/RTAS?
"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:44dcbeb9@linux...
>
> Cool, I'm waiting on the VTS/Rtas plugin versions..
>
> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
> >Mac/Intel Mac,Windows: gtr port, PodXT, PodXT Pro, PodXT Live,
ToneportUX1
>
> >and UX2.
> >New free models included and some cool bass stuff too.
> >Go get 'em.
> >
> > http://line6.com/software/index.html?name=GearBox&submit _form=set
> >
> >AA
> >
> >
>Yesterday, PM........a picture is worth..........???
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>Yesterday, PM........a picture is worth..........???
Oh YEAH?? Well it's heat n' smog season here in SoCal, so eat yer heart
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| Re: Kansas [message #69757 is a reply to message #69700] |
Wed, 28 June 2006 16:25 |
Dubya Mark Wilson
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rding.com" target="_blank">mark.xspam@avidrecording.com> wrote in message
news:44de2f0f@linux...
> They're all the same after a while aren't they?!?!?! My recent auto
> dealer: Lynnwood Honda, Experience the Difference.
> W.
>
> "Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message
> news:44DDF683.4060609@billlorentzen.com...
> > "Yes, you can at Sun Toyota!"
>
>The foam rubber is what was used in the example and probably what I will use
for the exhaust maze.
The other foam is going to go in a rack enclosure that houses the computer
cases. I will have two computers in this iso box and I will remove both sides
of the cases or pretty much all the un-needed computer case housing. I was
considering placing a power supply on the iso box just to power the fans.
Is there a good candidate for this purpose. A PS that won't add too much
noise ad heat which will defeat its purpose? Any suggestions?
thx
b
"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>Have you looked at car door damping panels?
>
>AA
>
>"brandon" <a@a.com> wrote in message news:44dd48ce$1@linux...
>>
>> All,
>>
>>
>> I am in the middle of making my studio console and am
>> building a sound proof computer compartment into it.
>> I was wondering where I can purchase the foam that needs to line
>> the enclosure. I need something about 1/4 inch thick for the
>> ventalation maze, but something thicker could go in the main
>> compartment.
>>
>> OH yeah.... Cheap please...
>>
>> Thx
>> b
>
>Definitely was a lucrative business at one time. I had a friend who sold
ads for a radio station in Rhode Island. He started selling jingles (he is
a musician, his wife a great singer) to those clients while he had them on
the phone for radio ad time. Within a few months he started his own
production company (not doing jingles anymore, but a successful company it
seems).
We have a large well-known local production company here doing jingles dirt
cheap - about what it would cost me to hire and record a couple of
vocalists. Imho, it kind of killed the market here for the most part.
Definitely not worth my time to try and compete with them. Oddly their
hourly rates are some of the highest in town, if not the highest.
DT
On 8/12/06 2:21 PM, in article 44de383f$1@linux, "DJ"
<animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> A friend of mine in Austin landed the McDonalds jingle account back in the
> 80's. He built a damned nice studio, just from the revenue from that account
> alone.
>
> "Dubya Mark Wilson" <mark.xspam@avidrecording.com> wrote in message
> news:44de2f0f@linux...
>> They're all the same after a while aren't they?!?!?! My recent auto
>> dealer: Lynnwood Honda, Experience the Difference.
>> W.
>>
>> "Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message
>> news:44DDF683.4060609@billlorentzen.com...
>>> "Yes, you can at Sun Toyota!"
>>
>>
>
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Ok thanks. How would you wrap it if you did?
--=20
Erick Kent
Clayton, Alabama
aesebu@email.uophx.edu
aes_ebu@yahoo.com
MSN: aes_ebu@yahoo.com
AIM: aesebu55
Home (334) 775-9702
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
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Erick,
I use an early version of Amplitube with Paris 3.0=20
on a PC and it has never been a problem. I don't
think I wrap it but I forget now.
Tom
"Erick Kent" <erick at thefollower.com> wrote in message =
news:44dd5212$1@linux...
Has anyone used Paris and IK Multimedia's Amplitube? I keep getting =
crashes (With version 1 or Amplitube and V2.2 of Paris). I have gotten =
it to work, but only once or twice and the rest of the time it just =
crashes Paris on startup or when I try to use it, furthermore it always =
causes my computer to reboot.
I am thinking about going to Paris 3.0 if this has worked for =
others, but I hate to spend that much money when I could put that money =
somewhere else in my studio.
Thanks,
--=20
Erick Kent
I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
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| Re: Kansas [message #69774 is a reply to message #69757] |
Thu, 29 June 2006 09:58 |
Tony Benson
Messages: 453
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ts I'm so bored.
> >
> >
>
>Hinge the sides so you can open the up. You will thank yourself.
;o)
"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote in message news:44df54fd$1@linux...
>
> No the sides do not open.
> I will might actually have two comps side by side in the case which will
> leave no room for getting in and out quickly. I was going to put my audio
> comp and my internet comp in there, but to reduce heat build up I should
> only put the audio comp in there. I don't usually surf the internet while
> I am recording anyway.
> However, I do use a KVM switcher and will have to get some extensions to
> make that work. That will leave room to get in and out.
> Also, I am very concerned about dust build up on the insulation.
> I guess regular maintenance will be required.
>
> thx,
> b
>
>
>
>
>
> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
> >Brandon, Looking at the drawing I was curious about something: do the
> >sides of the box open up? If it were mine I would make sure I had fast
> >access to the guts of the computer. Personally I have always kept mine
> >in closets.
> >
> >Also, whatever you use for the foam, remeber there will b a lot of dust
>
> >building up over time, so use something that will not trap it or hold it.
> >
> >brandon wrote:
> >> All,
> >>
> >>
> >> I am in the middle of making my studio console and am
> >> building a sound proof computer compartment into it.
> >> I was wondering where I can purchase the foam that needs to line
> >> the enclosure. I need something about 1/4 inch thick for the
> >> ventalation maze, but something thicker could go in the main
> >> compartment.
> >>
> >> OH yeah.... Cheap please...
> >>
> >> Thx
> >> b
>Unfortunately, the case is already built and that is not an option.
I am just going to put my audio comp in the enclosure so I will be able to
get to it no problem. I will pull the door off of the case and lay it on
its side so the heat raises straight up from the MB. I bought some case fans
that I will be installing in the enclosure with there own power supply. I
will be using 1"thick standard foam for the inside of the enclosure and the
exhaust maze.
b
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>Hinge the sides so you can open the up. You will thank yourself.
>;o)
>
>"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote in message news:44df54fd$1@linux...
>>
>> No the sides do not open.
>> I will might actually have two comps side by side in the case which will
>> leave no room for getting in and out quickly. I was going to put my audio
>> comp and my internet comp in there, but to reduce heat build up I should
>> only put the audio comp in there. I don't usually surf the internet while
>> I am recording anyway.
>> However, I do use a KVM switcher and will have to get some extensions
to
>> make that work. That will leave room to get in and out.
>> Also, I am very concerned about dust build up on the insulation.
>> I guess regular maintenance will be required.
>>
>> thx,
>> b
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>> >Brandon, Looking at the drawing I was curious about something: do the
>> >sides of the box open up? If it were mine I would make sure I had fast
>> >access to the guts of the computer. Personally I have always kept mine
>> >in closets.
>> >
>> >Also, whatever you use for the foam, remeber there will b a lot of dust
>>
>> >building up over time, so use something that will not trap it or hold
it.
>> >
>> >brandon wrote:
>> >> All,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I am in the middle of making my studio console and am
>> >> building a sound proof computer compartment into it.
>> >> I was wondering where I can purchase the foam that needs to line
>> >> the enclosure. I need something about 1/4 inch thick for the
>> >> ventalation maze, but something thicker could go in the main
>> >> compartment.
>> >>
>> >> OH yeah.... Cheap please...
>> >>
>> >> Thx
>> >> b
>>
>
>Can someone please explain to me the whole ...."if you record to 24 bit resolution
you don't need to worry about tracking with compression" thing....I may be
mis quoting, but it is something to that effect..
Something to do with not having to worry about clipping????.....
thx,
bYeah, I've done it a long time ago, but quit messing around with it, *and*
it never has been much faster for me so I just gave up on it. Makes me want
to ditch these adats and pick up a hard disk unit (at some point).
-Carl
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:44dfd488@linux...
> So obviously you weren't able to use the autotransfer function either.
Such
> a drag.....
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote in message
> news:44dfc6f9$1@linux...
> > Ha!! I'm doing the same friggin' thing today.... I tracked a live gig
last
> > night and am doing the transfers now. Pretty funny.
> >
> > -Carl
> >
> > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> > news:44dfc471@linux...
> > > .....actually I'm doing ADAT transfers today. I've got an XT 20 here
and
> > for
> > > some &^%$^!!!! reason I can't do a dump from ADAT to Paris using the
> Paris
> > > ADAT mixer thingie so I'm having to record from ADAT to
> Paris..........and
> > > this is about 6 hours of panel discussions that I recorded at an event
> > last
> > > fall. I'm about ready to slit my wrists I'm so bored.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>I have a LX20 and it works fine with Paris's Adta card. The sync is way too
easy..Just set the begin TIME.. bOOM..
DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>.....actually I'm doing ADAT transfers today. I've got an XT 20 here and
for
>some &^%$^!!!! reason I can't do a dump from ADAT to Paris using the Paris
>ADAT mixer thingie so I'm having to record from ADAT to Paris..........and
>this is about 6 hours of panel discussions that I recorded at an event last
>fall. I'm about ready to slit my wrists I'm so bored.
>
>This thing sounds great. Best $70.00 I've spent in a while. the twelve
string emulation is about as good as I've ever heard, short of a real 12
string. It can transform a strat into a pretty convincing Ricky.......at
least to my old ears.
DeejIt has to do with not needing to worry about tracking as hot as possible to
get the maximum number of bits. At 24 bit, you can just set your record
levels a bit lower and still get plenty of resolution. You don't need to be
riding just below redline.
"brandon" <a@a.com> wrote in message news:44dfddda$1@linux...
>
> Can someone please explain to me the whole ...."if you record to 24 bit
resolution
> you don't need to worry about tracking with compression" thing....I may be
> mis quoting, but it is something to that effect..
> Something to do with not having to worry about clipping????.....
> thx,
> bWhen I am tracking I always try to get the levels at a -10 average on the
PARIS channel meters.
Am I compromising resolution?
Should I be tracking at levels just below clipping?
thx,
b
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>It has to do with not needing to worry about tracking as hot as possible
to
>get the maximum number of bits. At 24 bit, you can just set your record
>levels a bit lower and still get plenty of resolution. You don't need to
be
>riding just below r
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| Re: Kansas [message #70144 is a reply to message #69655] |
Sun, 09 July 2006 10:42 |
Miguel Vigil [1]
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>
>"If the democratic party wins the election, they'd better be ready to fight.
Our enemies aren't going to stop attacking us just because of a regime change
here."
The only we should be ready to face is the (Bush-ites) neo-cons aka the present
rulers of our government. They are the ones who are taking away our liberties,freedom
under the guise of democracy.
It's really ashame that the 33-36 percent of you who still believe i this
regime, are still drinking the kool-iad that Tony Snow spills. It's soo un-beliveable
what they spew out these days to make their case. Now, it's become laughable.
Pretty pathetic that they continue to play the so called "RED-States fear
rhetoric to get support for thier imperialistic movement.
The Bush(ite)popularity polls show them @ around 33-36 percent. That says
that most of the folks who voted for him does not suppport him or that "sham"
Iraq war.
What's even funny is that folkd like yourself willing to die for this sham
of a cause, when the President himself and other Elites, will never take
up arms. Nor will their families allow them to. See, that's what poor folks
are for. They take up arms for the rich. Hey, I don't blame Bush for weasling
out the vietam war..That was a smart thing to do. But, I'd be damm if I'd
send or give my blessing to my sons for this most un-knoble cause.
LAD
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>I hate the idea of war as much as you do. I have actually thought long and
>hard about going over there myself. If there was something I could do other
>than get in the way. and I didn't have a family to support, I might check
>with the military to see if there's a *geezers battalion*. I don't have
any
>formal military training, but I know how to handle firearms, and I'm deadly
>accurate.
>It would piss off my wife to no end and I'm 56 and 'purtnear used up so
I
>don't know how wel
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Miguel Vigil [1]
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l this old body would handle the rigours of battlefield
>combat and the heat, but I'll guarantee you that I would have no problem
at
>all if my son or daughter joined a volunteer army and that army was called
>on to fight, I would support them 100%.
>
>If the democratic party wins the election, they'd better be ready to fight.
>Our enemies aren't going to stop attacking us just because of a regime
>change here. The politics of the left are much more abhorrent to them than
>those of the right. They are, however, quite happy to allow the left to
do
>their political infighting for them here. The weaker and less resolved we
>are the better they like it.
>
>Here's what you're in for amigo:
> http://www.iranfocus.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=54 26
>
>The human rights section and the women's section is especially wonderful.
>Enjoy.
>
>
>Regards,
>
>DJ
>
>
>
>"Lamont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:44e8083f$1@linux...
>>
>> Hopefully the opposing party, they would stand for our constitutional
>rights
>> and it's Liberties..
>>
>> Even more, the opposing party would not be thrill seeking war mongers,
>who's
>> only agenda is to spread freedom thru out he world (ha hah). I would hope
>> any opposing party will grow some balls and speak out against this
>tierney.
>> There are just as many Democrats who signed on with the Bush(is).. But
>> as we saw with the beginning of the mid term primaries, those Democrats
who
>> were with the Bush(ites) went down with ship.
>>
>> Evenmore.The thought of spreading democracy into a region were war is
>second
>> nature for over 10,000 years is laughable at best. Those fold over there(
>> Iran, Iraq,Saudi Arabia, Syria, afghanistan,) will Never stop fighting
or
>> give in to so called democracy..Never.
>> Will you send you son or daughter over to fight??
>> I thought so..
>>
>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>> >These days(I'm not kidding) I'll take my chances with the
>terrorist..Why??
>> >At least I know what my enemy stands for. My other enemy (Us
>Goverment.aka
>> >Bush administration) is an enemy that's supposed to be for me and the
>good
>> >of this union.
>> >
>> >.........and if there was an election today, what would the opposing
>party
>> >stand for Lamont?
>> >
>> >"Lamont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:44e79af9$1@linux...
>> >>
>> >> Steve, that link you posted does not make a good enough argument to
>debut
>> >> the "Loose Change movie (documentary).
>> >>
>> >> I'm not a conpriracist, but I've never believed the US government
>stories
>> >> on 911. IMHO, we are dealing with a some really power hungry, sadistic,
>> >neoconservatives-conservatives
>> >> in the white house and his fellow neo cons.
>> >>
>> >> They are evil to the core. And have, dragged this nation down to the
>> >pits!!!..
>> >> It's really a shame that we 2 years left with these evil neo-cons.
They
>> are
>> >> as anti American as the as the so-called terrorist. Impeachment
>hearings
>> >> should start immediately.!
>> >>
>> >> And to think, we let them Impeach Clinton.. Now, with our civil
>liberties
>> >> being taken from us, a Patriot act which gives the Gov and police the
>> >right
>> >> to do anything they want. And a phony department names Department of
>> >Homeland
>> >> security, which is a weak as 2 minute cornflakes all under the sham
of
>> >making
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