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The world, oil, Citgo and Petro Express! [message #85313] Fri, 25 May 2007 23:49 Go to next message
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Re: The world, oil, Citgo and Petro Express! [message #85314 is a reply to message #85313] Fri, 25 May 2007 23:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: The world, oil, Citgo and Petro Express! [message #85316 is a reply to message #85314] Sat, 26 May 2007 00:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: The world, oil, Citgo and Petro Express! [message #85361 is a reply to message #85338] Sat, 26 May 2007 10:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: The world, oil, Citgo and Petro Express! [message #85369 is a reply to message #85360] Sat, 26 May 2007 11:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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> >>
>> Language: The Ellis Island crew did'nt speak the laguage.. It took them

>> awhile.
>> Oh yeah, they added Ganges, an the Mafia,organized crime.. Good citizens
>> from Italy..right..
>
>You forgot the mexican gangs, the chinese gangs, etc.... So what's that
got
>to do with it? Oh yeah, it's part of the immigration process to actually

>speak the native tongue. Oh, wait. I don't see what that has to do with

>still. Not speaking the language = mafia. Uh huh. Yeah. Maybe you better

>clarify that. Or perhaps you should close your mouth before you piss off
the
>Italian Americans, cause you know they might just send Guido the Brick after

>you. Or Lenny the Punch. Maybe even Tony Soprano.
>
>You seriously need to actually read my post before engaging your fingers
to
>the keyboard again.
>
>>
>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>No, sadly they probably meant if you come here learn the language, give
>> the
>>>same share of taxation we all have to and add something positive to the
>>
>>>society and you've missed the point.
>>>Seriously, I care not who comes from where as long as they offer something
>>
>>>to make the country greater for their families, themselves and those
>>>already
>>
>>>here. When I have freinds that pull their kids out of certain schools
>>>because they received honors by _default_ of actually speaking English,
>>
>>>Houston we gotta big fat problem. you guys may not be geographically
in
>> a
>>>place to have this happening in your town, but it's coming soon to ya
at
>>
>>>this rate if we don't get a handle on it.
>>>
>>>AA
>>>
>>>
>>>"Lamont" <jjd@aol.com> wrote in message news:467ee788$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> That's right. They did not mean Africans, asians or even the natives
of
>>
>>>> this
>>>> land..Sad really sad..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>>>>Hi jeff,
>>>>>Sadly I think they only wanted it to read..
>>>>>
>>>>>"Give me your European tired, your European poor,
>>>>>Your European huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
>>>>>The wretched refuse of your teeming European shore...."
>>>>>
>>>>>Chris
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Jeff Hoover wrote:
>>>>>> Bill L wrote:
>>>>>>> Actually I think we ought to invite any who want citizenship and
can
>>>>
>>>>>>> speak some English to take an IQ and an aptitude test. Any with an
>> IQ
>>>>
>>>>>>> over 120 and a good aptitude score, if they have a clean legal record
>>>>
>>>>>>> and a record of steady employment, should be offered citizenship.
The
>>>>
>>>>>>> rest should be refused citizenship and should be sent back. We can
>>>>>>> use more able, intelligent people. Who says we should not pick the
>>>>>>> top applicants just like a company does. That's how we can make
our
>>>>
>>>>>>> country stronger.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Give me your tired, your poor,
>>>>>> Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
>>>>>> The wretched refuse of your teeming shore...."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nah, that was so 20th century...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>Chris Ludwig
>>>>>ADK
>>>>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>>>>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>>>>(859) 635-5762
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>No..I was simply simplifing the facts for you(in a movie).. Your links
are
>nothing more than a few opinions on the events that went on @ Vietnam..


Burkett's book is well researched, documented and footnoted.

Read it and discover for yourself the reality of the vietnam soldier,
not the one in the movies.


>

>Bottom line: The Bush's , Clinton's weasled their way out the Vietnam war.
> Same as today.. Some ofdthevery same folks who are for this so called
war
>in Iraq, are the very same ones who: 1) Would not voluntare themselves

>2) would not send their own kids..

Lies. No one sends any kids anywhere.

This, of course has been said to you before.


DC"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:

>DC, it's a know fact that the Top 3percent earners pay little to any taxes
>awith Dual citizenships in other countries to avoid paying taxes.. That's
>knowing how to play the game legally.

In reality, more than 60% of ALL taxes are paid by the top 10% of
wage earners.

Are there tax cheats? Yes, in every bracket. But going after the very

people who start companies and create jobs is socialist foolishness.

When is the last time you were hired (and paid a good wage) by a
poor person?


DCThis is a multi-part message in MIME format.

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sigh....=20

Last time I looked at tax forms, it was against the law not to pay your =
legally deemed fair share of it, unless you had non profit 503c or =
equivilant status.=20
-----------------------------
U.S. tax law determines tax status in the following four categories: 1) =
U.S. Citizen, 2) Permanent Resident Alien ("green card" holder) and =
immigrant, 3) Resident Alien for tax purposes, and 4) Nonresident Alien =
for tax purposes. The special IRS withholding rules do not apply to US =
Citizens, Permanent Resident Aliens ("green card" holders) and Resident =
Aliens for tax purposes.

Nonresident aliens
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for tax purposes are those non-U.S. citizens who do =
not meet the Substantial Presence Test (SPT). The SPT is a mathematical =
formula that calculates the number of days present in the current =
calendar year and the appropriate preceding two to six years. An =
individual that meets the SPT is considered a resident alien for tax =
purposes.

An individual's days of presence may be exempted when calculating the =
number of days for the Substantial Presence Test if s/he is:=20

a.. An F or J student. Days of presence are exempt for the first five =
calendar years.=20
b.. A J Visitor (non-student). Days of presence are exempt for the =
first two calendar years.=20
A nonresident alien must complete IRS Form W-4 according to the IRS =
regulations outlined in IRS Publication 519 (See =
http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p519.pdf).

Should a nonresident alien employee not complete the IRS Form W-4 =
according to the IRS guidelines, Georgia Tech will be required by the =
IRS to withhold the maximum amount of withholding for federal taxes.

For a more complete description of the above information on IRS Tax =
guidelines, see IRS Publication 519 (See =
http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p519.pdf).

------------------------

An illegal alien can't have any of the quoted status above. Therefore, =
they don't pay wage taxes unless they have an employer just begging for =
it that reports/pays on them. Not likely, but not impossible I suppose. =


-------------------------

While the issue of tax liability was raised during the announcement of =
the immigration reform proposal on Thursday, the response of Homeland =
Security Secretary Michael Chertoff left some ambiguity.=20

Referencing illegals who hoped to attain legal status under the Senate =
bill, Chertoff said, "You've got to pay your taxes."=20

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=3D5 5786

Above is an opportunity for IA's to catch up. Think they're gonna do it? =
How many you think are gonna do it? I'd guess a veeeery small =
percentage, but it's a guess only at this point based on currently =
available data.

While there are levels of criminality....Explain: How's that not =
criminal, LaMont, to not be paying the wage taxes?
And would you reward this behaviour with free health care, paid for on =
the backs of those that are responsible enough to pay taxes and keep =
insurance?


------------------------------
crim=B7i=B7nal=B7ly, adverb=20

-Synonyms 1. felonious, unlawful. See illegal. 6. malefactor, evildoer, =
transgressor, culprit, felon, crook, hoodlum, gangster.
-Antonyms 1. lawful. 2. innocent.

See above definition from dictionary.com


Did Oliver Stone put out a new movie, or do you have another 'reliable' =
source for the definition of criminal you're pulling from?=20

=20
"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message =
news:468099bb$1@linux...
>=20
> Aaron, that's crap on your part to believe that every single so-called =
illegal
> immigrant is a criminal. That's crap.=20

See above. Answer the above question posed to you. I did not, note, say =
that all illegal aliens (yes, even those from Mars 8*P`) are bad ppl.=20
I did say they're here illegally. They are.=20
I also said I'm not interested in funding their health care while =
they're undermining the economy which I'm live in. I'm not.=20

Any points about that position that aren't clear?

>=20
> Again, was every family or person who came to this country via (slave =
trade,
> Ellis Island, or even indentured servitude) criminals? Could there =
have been
> some on the criminal element who came to this country via Ellis =
Island? or
> the slave trade? or indentured servitude?

If you'd care to google, you'll find that pretty much (if not) every =
country in existence has some skeletons in the past. The Crusades, Rome. =
Nazis. Sects of religions have arguably the bloodiest of battles. Man =
has a dance in all ages with evil and power. The thing is to have =
learned from the past, not repeat it if possible, get over it and move =
on wiser. You seem to have some issues with letting the past go. Why is =
that man?
I'm not talking about the past, I'm in the here and now talking about =
the current illegal alien issue.=20

Brother, put your preconceptions aside because it's blinding you to =
current realities. I really mean that in the best possible way. I've =
been funnin' you a little here but serious time. You have GOT to let the =
hate go, it's a cancer.=20


AA

>=20
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message =
news:467f4bac$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Aaron, are you saying that todays immigrants are not aading any =
value
> at=20
>>> all
>>> ??
>>
>>The ones that cross illegal and have to hide out from the gov't, can =
drive
>=20
>>drunk KILL someone and walk away from it because the local/state law=20
>>enforcement can't touch them since they're an INS problem, and INS =
can't
> get=20
>>to them because there aren't enough of them (we've come up from 2 to 7 =
in
>=20
>>this state.. the WHOLE state...)? Buddy if that's your idea of value =
you
>=20
>>better get a new set of morals.
>>BTW, stop trying to put words in my mouth. Read back to me where I =
wrote
>=20
>>that all immigrants are not bringing value.
>>
>>>
>>> Heck, most americans are not adding any value to days.. Truthe be =
told,
>=20
>>> most
>>> don;pt even pay taxes ..
>>
>>That's crap and if you really and truly believe it you've surrounded=20
>>yourself with criminals and need to evaluate your placement in life.
>>>
>>> And, if they (immigrants) purchase good and services, are tehy not =
paying
>>> taxes??
>>
>>Ok, here we go with the "READ THE WORDS I WROTE" part of this again. =
Pay
> the=20
>>same share of taxation that we all have to . So, if they aren't paying =

>>yearly federal taxes because they can't *exist* here legally.. how are =
they
>=20
>>doing that LaMont?
>>What part of that was not clear to you?
>>
>>>
>>> Language: The Ellis Island crew did'nt speak the laguage.. It took =
them
>=20
>>> awhile.
>>> Oh yeah, they added Ganges, an the Mafia,organized crime.. Good =
citizens
>>> from Italy..right..
>>
>>You forgot the mexican gangs, the chinese gangs, etc.... So what's =
that
> got=20
>>to do with it? Oh yeah, it's part of the immigration process to =
actually
>=20
>>speak the native tongue. Oh, wait. I don't see what that has to do =
with
>=20
>>still. Not speaking the language =3D mafia. Uh huh. Yeah. Maybe you =
better
>=20
>>clarify that. Or perhaps you should close your mouth before you piss =
off
> the=20
>>Italian Americans, cause you know they might just send Guido the Brick =
after
>=20
>>you. Or Lenny the Punch. Maybe even Tony Soprano.
>>
>>You seriously need to actually read my post before engaging your =
fingers
> to=20
>>the keyboard again.
>>
>>>
>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>>No, sadly they probably meant if you come here learn the language, =
give
>>> the
>>>>same share of taxation we all have to and add something positive to =
the
>>>
>>>>society and you've missed the point.
>>>>Seriously, I care not who comes from where as long as they offer =
something
>>>
>>>>to make the country greater for their families, themselves and those =

>>>>already
>>>
>>>>here. When I have freinds that pull their kids out of certain =
schools
>>>>because they received honors by _default_ of actually speaking =
English,
>>>
>>>>Houston we gotta big fat problem. you guys may not be =
geographically
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econdary-bf>crim=B7i=B7nal=B7ly, </SPAN><SPAN class=3Dpg>adverb =

</SPAN><BR></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2><FONT =
color=3D#800000><SPAN>=97Synonyms 1</SPAN>.=20
felonious, unlawful. <SPAN>See <A style=3D"FONT-VARIANT: small-caps"=20
href=3D"http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=3Dillegal">illegal.</A> =
6</SPAN>.=20
malefactor, evildoer, transgressor, culprit, felon, crook, hoodlum,=20
gangster.</FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2><FONT =
color=3D#800000><SPAN>=97Antonyms 1</SPAN>.=20
lawful. <SPAN class=3Ddn>2</SPAN>. innocent.</FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><EM>See above definition from=20
dictionary.com</EM></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><EM>Did Oliver Stone put out a new =
movie,=20
or&nbsp;do you have&nbsp;another 'reliable' source for the definition=20
of&nbsp;criminal you're pulling from? </EM></FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2></FONT><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><BR>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"LaMont" &lt;</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:jjdpro@ameritech.net"><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>jjdpro@ameritech.net</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt; =
wrote in=20
message </FONT><A href=3D"news:468099bb$1@linux"><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>news:468099bb$1@linux</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt; <BR>&gt; Aaron, that's crap on =
your part to=20
believe that every single so-called illegal<BR>&gt; immigrant is a =
criminal.=20
That's crap. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><EM>See above.</EM> <EM>Answer the =
above question=20
posed to you. I did not, note, say that all illegal aliens (yes, even =
those from=20
Mars 8*P`) are bad ppl. </EM></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><EM>I did say they're here illegally. =
They are.=20
</EM></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><EM>I also said I'm not interested in =
funding their=20
health care while they're undermining the economy which I'm live in. I'm =
not.=20
</EM></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></EM>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><EM>Any&nbsp;points about that position =
that aren't=20
clear?</EM></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Again, was every =
family or person=20
who came to this country via (slave trade,<BR>&gt; Ellis Island, or even =

indentured servitude) criminals? Could there have been<BR>&gt; some on =
the=20
criminal element who came to this country via Ellis Island? or<BR>&gt; =
the slave=20
trade? or indentured servitude?</DIV>
<DIV><EM></EM>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><EM>If you'd care to google, you'll find that pretty much (if=20
not)&nbsp;every country in existence has some skeletons in the past. The =

Crusades, Rome. Nazis. Sects of religions have&nbsp;arguably the =
bloodiest of=20
battles.&nbsp;Man has a dance in all ages with evil and power. The thing =
is to=20
have learned from the past, not repeat&nbsp;it if possible, get over =
it&nbsp;and=20
move on wiser. You seem to have some issues with letting the past go. =
Why is=20
that man?</EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM>I'm not talking about the past, I'm in the here and now talking =
about=20
the current illegal alien issue. </EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM></EM>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><EM>Brother, put your preconceptions aside because it's blinding =
you to=20
current realities.</EM> <EM>I really mean that in the best possible way. =
I've=20
been funnin' you a little here but serious time. You have GOT to let the =
hate=20
go, it's a cancer. </EM></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>AA</DIV>
<DIV><BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; "Aaron Allen" &lt;</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:know-spam@not_here.dude"><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>know-spam@not_here.dude</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>&gt;=20
wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt;"LaMont" &lt;</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:jjdpro@ameritech.net"><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>jjdpro@ameritech.net</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt; =
wrote in=20
message </FONT><A href=3D"news:467f4bac$1@linux"><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>news:467f4bac$1@linux</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>...<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; Aaron, are you saying that =
todays=20
immigrants are not aading any value<BR>&gt; at <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
all<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; ??<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;The ones that cross =
illegal and=20
have to hide out from the gov't, can drive<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;drunk =
KILL=20
someone and walk away from it because the local/state law=20
<BR>&gt;&gt;enforcement can't touch them since they're an INS problem, =
and INS=20
can't<BR>&gt; get <BR>&gt;&gt;to them because there aren't enough of =
them (we've=20
come up from 2 to 7 in<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;this state.. the WHOLE =
state...)?=20
Buddy if that's your idea of value you<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;better get a =
new set=20
of morals.<BR>&gt;&gt;BTW, stop trying to put words in my mouth. Read =
back to me=20
where I wrote<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;that all immigrants are not bringing=20
value.<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR >&gt;&gt;&gt; Heck, most americans =
are not=20
adding any value to days.. Truthe be told,<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
most<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; don;pt even pay taxes =
...<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;That's crap=20
and if you really and truly believe it you've surrounded =
<BR>&gt;&gt;yourself=20
with criminals and need to evaluate your placement in=20
life.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; And, if they (immigrants) purchase =
good=20
and services, are tehy not paying<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
taxes??<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;Ok, here we go with the "READ THE WORDS I =
WROTE"=20
part of this again. Pay<BR>&gt; the <BR>&gt;&gt;same share of taxation =
that we=20
all have to . So, if they aren't paying <BR>&gt;&gt;yearly federal taxes =
because=20
they can't *exist* here legally.. how are they<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;doing =
that=20
LaMont?<BR>&gt;&gt;What part of that was not clear to=20
you?<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR >&gt;&gt;&gt; Language: The Ellis =
Island crew=20
did'nt speak the laguage.. It took them<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
awhile.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;
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t="_blank">http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>>>(859) 635-5762
>>>
>>
>>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/AardSync-II-Aardvark-Master-Sync-Generat or_W0QQitemZ290132974166QQihZ019QQcategoryZ41784QQssPageName ZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem



AardSync II Aardvark Master Sync Generator


If your staying at 48-44.1k range the above is a steller word clock with 4
outs.

Regards,

El Miguel




"Wayne Carson" <carson_wayne@msn.com> wrote in message
news:467f1e66@linux...
> OK, I'm looking into clocks using the SweetWater catalog.
> Apogee Big Ben $1345
> Lucid Genx192 $700
>
> Kim sent from eBay
> Mytek StudioClock 192-CX $690 states it's more robust and a better
> square
> wave then Big Ben.
>
> DJ sent
> Apogee PSX-100 $3000
>
> I'm gonna read up on all. Anyone have fav's.
>
> Thanks all.
>
>


That's correct, stay away from 50ms lookahead, which is all the way to the
right.
Rod
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>Memory serving, that is all but I think I recall a little bug in NoLimit

>with the outer reaches of timeline that cause problems. I'd have to fire
up
>the Paris rig out in the studio to say for sure, but fully clockwise and/or

>fully counterclockwise I think brought about issues when adjusting
>lookahead. Otherwise the plug was fine and, IMHO, awesome at what it does.
>
>AA
>
>
>"Jeff Hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote in message news:4680af00@linux...
>> Aaron
>>
>> SO here's the list
>>
>> PC Freebies
>> 1. Sine generator.
>> 2. Volume Control.
>> 3. Comb filter.
>>
>> PC Value Pack
>> 1. FreakQ
>> 2. BarbEQ
>> 3. KickBack
>> 4. ModPack
>> 5. Nolimit
>> 6. Pseudo
>> 7. Eventiter
>>
>> Sounds likethe freebies and FreakQ are out. Any others?
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>>> right, remembering more of it now.... FreakQ was the one that would foul

>>> up on the lo pass band.. I think. Jeez. Old age sucks, heh...
>>> PC Freebies was the one Chuck said to not install.
>>>
>>> AA
>>>
>>>
>>> "Mark" <mark47366@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:468035cb$1@linux...
>>>
>>>>I think PC Freebies was the problem - although right now just for
>>>>troubleshooting, I also removed FreakQ, I did previously have that
>>>>running with no problem.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"PaulN" <pn@nospam.com> wrote in message news:467fcd01$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>>>My experience is that "PC Freebies" is the culpret. I had all kinds
of
>>>>>weirdness
>>>>>going on until I uninstalled them.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>FreakQ is the one that seemed to cause the most issues I believe, and

>>>>>>it
>>>>>
>>>>>>seemed like there was a little 3 pack that had something in it that

>>>>>>created
>>>>>
>>>>>>issues, name escapes me at the moment. Define "all" of them that you
>>>>>>installed and I can likely pick the one out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>AA
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Mark" <sharonaloveslife@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:467fb883$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I had installed all of the skunkworks plugs - I removed all but the
>>>>>>>eventiter and the mods.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I really love the plugs and as time permits, I'll start adding them
in
>>>>>
>>>>>>>again until I isolate which one was causing the problem on my
>>>>>>>computer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:467ea667@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I hadn't seen that reaction yet, but I think some of the skunkworks

>>>>>>>>plugs
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>were deemed too buggy and it was suggested to not install them. Which
>>>>>
>>>>>of
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>them did you have installed?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>AA
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Mark" <sharonaloveslife@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>news:467e51e8@linux...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I sure appreciate all the helpful tips posted here and wanted to

>>>>>>>>>share
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>that I found the solution to a problem when I migrated Paris to

>>>>>>>>>Windows
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>XP Pro.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>The problem was that the EDS compressors were not working for the
>>>>>>>>>channel inserts. It was frustrating since I really like using them

>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>all the other insert efx were working.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I'm a big fan of Chuck's plugins and had installed all of them.
>>>>>>>>>Unfortunately, on my box, there was a conflict. When I removed all

>>>>>>>>>but
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>the basic EDS effects dlls from the system32 folder the compressors
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>worked again.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I still have the eventiter and modulation efx working so that good

>>>>>>>>>since
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I like them alot too.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Anyways, since I had posted in the midst of my confusion, thought
I
>>>>>
>>>>>post
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>the solution too.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>i believe reaper does aiff. audition does it in batch processing.
i'm not sure about wavelab as i'm not in the studio.

On 26 Jun 2007 21:28:04 +1000, "John" <no@no.com> wrote:

>
>What apps do that?
>
>rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>import the impulses into any app that take mac files and save them as
>>wav.DC wrote:
> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>> 2) would not send their own kids..
>
> Lies. No one sends any kids anywhere.

Wow, looks like you're wildly misinterpreting that point, Don.


> This, of course has been said to you before.

Condescend much?

Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:


>Due to the in-herited racism that's plagued this country , blacks needed
>help..

Help must be defined as opportunity, not handouts. The welfare state
has helped cause the current crisis in the black family by paying more
money for unwed children, and many other abuses.

Black americans, when given opportunity do very well. You don't need
the white liberal democrat patronage system, that is for damn sure, but
that is what you are offered by those who make you promises of results
rather than promises of opportunity.

>Again, I would not expecpt you to under stand that, not being Black..
>My sister and I come from humble beginnings. Long story short, we are what
>you would call up-wardly mobile African Americans..Highly educated(can't
>type-smile) and make a really good living..

So just ONCE dammit, say thank you America. Can you do it?


>I've been in coporate america since 1984 and nothing has changed for Blacks
>since.. Yes, you can find some of us on the Ball fields..But, as a hiring
>manager, the numbers just are not there. There is a 'Glass" stone cieling
>for us in corporate america.. I could go on andon.. But, the Bottom line
>is this, the media today would even try to discredit Martin Luther King
Jr
>if he were alive today. Saying that he's a Poverty pimp..Some people really
>do ned a helping hand.

King would kick these frauds in the ass and send them on their way.
That's the part you hope no one notices.

King has become a part of the culture, and his views have become
mainstream. The current "leaders" have to invent controversy and
race-hustle every situation they can to continue their careers and lavish
lifestyles.


>Whites say..Go out and get a job Black man..Well, If the Job(s) are in a
>White Suburb, well, that Black man will be harrassed to no end by the local
>Police ,making it hard just to pick up an application..

I've seen this. Go anyway and sue the cops.



>You all seem to think that after the turbulent 60's (civil rights) that
things
>were alright for the Blacks.. They were not.. Just like they were not after
>the Ciivil War...The KKK and other hate groups re-surfaced just like after
>the Civil war.. Why??

And now blacks have their own hate groups. Progress?

>
>Is there still racism in America??

Where is there not? But there will be none in my house.

DCAaron Allen wrote:

> /An illegal alien can't have any of the quoted status above. Therefore,
> they don't pay wage taxes unless they have an employer just begging for
> it that reports/pays on them. Not likely, but not impossible I suppose. /

According to one of the sites you linked (which largely agrees with you)

http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalrelease.html

illegal aliens pay an average of $4,200 in federal taxes, for a total of
about 16 billion per year.

So despite the status problem you mention, many illegal aliens DO seem
to be paying federal taxes, and not an insignificant amount.

That site goes on to claim that illegal aliens are still causing an
average net drain of $2,700 per household. However this is interesting:
they claim that if illegal aliens were made legal, they would have an
average net drain of almost $7,700 per household, almost triple.

I don't know if those figures are solid, but I believe illegal aliens
ARE contributing to the federal tax system. It would be interesting to
know if those who have been here for a while and have become somewhat
established contribute more on a yearly basis than those who have just
arrived.

Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.comAaron, I'm following your links/sources, this one looks at lifetime tax
contributions.

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