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| Re: What I love about mixing in tandem with Cubase and Paris [message #65221 is a reply to message #65219] |
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Deej [1]
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ere and there, my
Cubase/Paris hybrid is exactly what I hoped Paris would eventually become.
Just because Paris stopped doesn't mean we did. I think it's fun to put this
stuff together and see what it can achieve.
;o)
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:443c54af$1@linux...
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> Yeah, I still use Paris as main DAW, although I augment with cubase sx. I
> think of the spirit of this newsgroup to have evolved as those who are
searching
> for the best way to do their thang with music, and share it.... guys and
> gals that aren't swayed by popular opinion, unless it happens to be the
same
> thing that works for them sonically, or logistically, or ergonomically, or
> whatever, and are willing to share, or learn. I say, bring it on. If PT is
> working for you, and you can tell me how...I'll listen. Maybe it will make
> me better.
> Rod
> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
> >> Dawfensiveness
> >
> >
> >Dude, I love that term. And your right. Look at all the hits made
WAAAAYYY
>
> >before we even had computers, much less DAWs. It ain't as much about the
>
> >tools as it is about the capturing of the moment. How you do that is
totally
>
> >personal and up to each of us. Sure, I can spank the daylights out a PT
> mix
> >in level with Paris, but then again Paris midi sucks. Use what floats it
> for
> >ya, I say. Use it how it floats it for ya. If it's good, everyone will
know
>
> >it when they hear it, and the means doesn't matter. I still prefer Paris
> in
> >a big way, but I program midi/song structures elsewhere where the 'sound'
>
> >doesn't matter and dump to.
> >
> >AA
> >
> >
> >"TC" <tc@spammetodeathyoubastards.org> wrote in message
> >news:443c155c$1@linux...
> >> Well,
> >>
> >> I use PT HD, Logic 7 and Paris, with considerable investments in all
over
>
> >> the years.
> >
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| Re: What I love about mixing in tandem with Cubase and Paris [message #65226 is a reply to message #65225] |
Tue, 07 March 2006 16:39 |
Kim
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hard to beat.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Many Paris commercial studio owners have expressed that they have, or
>
> >>>>>are
> >>>>>considering going with PT because it's "The industry standard". Many
>
> >>>>>feel
> >>>>>that if they don't jump to PT that they are losing business. For
some
> >>>
> >>> people
> >>>
> >>>>>this is the case, and they need to do what they need to do. However,
> it
> >>>>>really should be based on the quality of the end result, not the
> >>>>>equipment
> >>>>>you use.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Everybody has different needs. For most project studios, there is
> >>>>>really
> >>>>>no need for an expensive system like PT, or 2K for Nuendo, plus the
> cost
> >>>>>of hardware. If your in a major market like N.Y., L.A., Nashville,
> or
> >>>
> >>> Austin,
> >>>
> >>>>>then PT makes sense. For myself, I'm more in to recording live
> >>>>>instruments,
> >>>>>so paris works fine and sounds great. The day a record company wants
> to
> >>>>>give me a million dollars to record an album and insist on a SSL 9000
>
> >>>>>and
> >>>>>a PT system, I'll buy them. When it comes to making a record, and
your
> >>>>
> >>>>talking
> >>>>
> >>>>>sound quality, Paris can stand toe to toe with any DAW in the world.
>
> >>>>>There
> >>>>>have been some pretty big records done on Paris, just ask BT. By the
>
> >>>>>way,
> >>>>>he still mixes with Paris!
> &
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| Re: What I love about mixing in tandem with Cubase and Paris [message #65228 is a reply to message #65226] |
Tue, 07 March 2006 18:36 |
chuck duffy
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; > you ask "What's the best way to re-jet and rebuild a carburetor
> > on a '72 Camaro with a 305 engine in order to get me another
> > 20 or so horsepower?", someone here will refer you to the best
> > carb kit & jet size with which to do so.
> >
> > Neil
>
>
> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>
>We use a 12 output Rosendahl word clock generator at the
studio and I still loop between the two MEC's... seems to be
more stable somehow. You only *have to* run W/C directly to
each MEC once you reach 3+ units.
David.
Steve Cox wrote:
> Not sure if it matters, but I don't really need to bnc the 2 mecs together
> do I? as I use a master word clock. The Aardsync. 4 word clock sends, I have
> everything set to 44.1 And I use a Ramsa DA7 motorized fader digital console
> for input, also set for 44.1
>
> "Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>>Don't do as I say, do as I think! ;-)
>>
>>David.
>>
>>Kim wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>one connected to Card A (default
>>>>master) and as Tom mentioned, one MEC connected to the *last
>>>>EDS card*
>>>
>>>
>>>You should also note that "last EDS card" refers to "whichever card has
>
> the
>
>>>last designation". It does not refer to anything to do with their physical
>>>location in your machine. Which one is last in a given machine with a
>
> given
>
>>>OS is almost impossible to predict. You will have to experiment to work
>
> it
>
>>>out.
>>>
>>>But the interfaces need to be on card A and card C in your case, as decided
>>>by the Paris software.
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Kim.
>
>huh??? have another beer mate! ;-)
David.
Kim wrote:
> Correct. I
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| Re: What I love about mixing in tandem with Cubase and Paris [message #65229 is a reply to message #65228] |
Tue, 07 March 2006 19:25 |
Kim
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f you're losing wordclock that will be fine.
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
> "Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
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>>Not sure if it matters, but I don't really need to bnc the 2 mecs together
>>do I? as I use a master word clock. The Aardsync. 4 word clock sends, I
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> have
>
>>everything set to 44.1 And I use a Ramsa DA7 motorized fader digital console
>>for input, also set for 44.1
>>
>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>
>>>Don't do as I say, do as I think! ;-)
>>>
>>>David.
>>>
>>>Kim wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>one connected to Card A (default
>>>>>master) and as Tom mentioned, one MEC connected to the *last
>>>>>EDS card*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>You should also note that "last EDS card" refers to "whichever card has
>>
>>the
>>
>>>>last designation". It does not refer to anything to do with their physical
>>>>location in your machine. Which one is last in a given machine with a
>>
>>given
>>
>>>>OS is almost impossible to predict. You will have to experiment to work
>>
>>it
>>
>>>>out.
>>>>
>>>>But the interfaces need to be on card A and card C in your case, as decided
>>>>by the Paris software.
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>Kim.
>>
>Hi Dedric,
Sorry, I haven't had time to run these tests... I haven't
forgotten about you! It is a zoo at the office right now...
as soon as time permits, I will do the tests and forward the
results.
Regards,
David.
Dedric Terry wrote:
> Thanks David! What audio card(s) do you have? What are your system specs?
>
> The test is pretty basic, but will give me an idea of comparative driver
> performance - just an sine wave (100Hz will do) stereo audio track; copied
> to 96 tracks; loop about 10 seconds or so of it at zero crossings.
>
> Put JMC900 in all 8 inserts of a track and copy that to another 2 tracks,
> with all plugins disabled. Run at 64 samples with "Low Latency" off in
> expert audio settings and enable plugins until Nuendo starts sputtering or
> crackling. Record the count when it can loop over a 10 second or so segment
> 4-5 times without sput
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| Re: What I love about mixing in tandem with Cubase and Paris [message #65232 is a reply to message #65221] |
Wed, 08 March 2006 01:30 |
rick
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drivers, latest
>>>> full release). I loaded up a single sine wave, copied it to 96 tracks,
>>>> just
>>>> to load the audio engine (don't care about disc streaming). I loaded 8
>>>> Gsuite JCM900s (freeware) on the first few tracks and here's what I found,
>>>> and what I would like to confirm with other users:
>>>>
>>>> At 64 sample latency:
>>>> DAW # JCM900s
>>>> Nuendo 15
>>>> Samplitude 38
>>>>
>>>> (X2 4400 dual core; A8V Deluxe; 2G Ram; RME Digiface 2.94; etc)
>>>>
>>>> Holy crap - that's over twice the performance. So, does Sam8 not have PDC
>>>> at all? I know Nuendo has a long list of other features, such as audio
>>>> warp, scoring, midi and VSTi capabilities beyond Sam's, post features, etc,
>>>> etc, but that's over twice the performance. I know Samplitude handles it's
>>>> own audio buffering internally, which seems to be completely independent of
>>>> ASIO buffers, and to some degree seems to ignore ASIO buffers too. At 128,
>>>> Nuendo caught up - 39 JCMs. I have no doubt that there is a "sweet spot"
>>>> for DAWs, simply based on how they buffer, process and stream data, in what
>>>> sizes, etc, so optimal ASIO or internal buffer settings won't be consistent
>>>> on different systems, and certainly not between apps, but this seems to be
>>>> an extreme difference (I triple checked the test to be sure I wasn't
>>>> missing
>>>> something basic, but couldn't find anythig. Samplitude's VIP buffer was at
>>>> 2048).
>>>>
>>>> Now, not being a Samplitude user, here's my lack of knowledge - that's all
>>>> I
>>>> could get out of it at any latency in the RME card. Nuendo kept adding
>>>> more
>>>> - over 64 at 512 samples. Why does Samplitude seem to gain nothing from
>>>> higher latency at the audio card? I'm sure I'm probably missing something
>>>> in understanding Samplitude's buffer approach (I did tweak the VIP buffers
>>>> to 8192 to get 38 plugins at 512 samples on the RME, but it seemed to lose
>>>> a
>>>> little performance at higher RME latency - not what I would expect).
>>>>
>>>> The other side of this is Nuendo has low latency issues. This was run with
>>>> "Low Latency" off in expert audio settings. With it on, it wouldn't even
>>>> run the 96 instances of a single audio file, no plugins, without breaking
>>>> up
>>>> - given what it is supposedly for, that can be reasoned away, but something
>>>> about Nuendo's PDC doesn't seem right to me - "disabling" it didn't add a
>>>> single plugin to the test results. Nuendo also needs to be restarted when
>>>> lowering latency settings or runs much worse
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| Re: What I love about mixing in tandem with Cubase and Paris [message #65241 is a reply to message #65226] |
Wed, 08 March 2006 07:23 |
Neil
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> >>
>> >> The fact that Paris is no longer made means that people are eventually
>>
>> >> either going to supplement their workflow with other systems, or move
>> on
>> >> once the hardware is no longer easy to come by.
>> >>
>> >> Dawfensiveness is just plain silly. That hasn't really been the spirit
>> of
>> >> this NG (although it has been touchy in the past at times) and I think
>> we
>> >> can all keep an open mind and help each other with good info on various
>>
>> >> platforms.
>> >>
>> >> If someone's moving to HD is going to somehow make another Paris user
>> feel
>> >> "inadequate" about their system, then so be it. Paris can hold it's
own
>>
>> >> sonically, and other systems will continue to have more features than
>>
>> >> Paris, but that's just the way it goes.
>> >>
>> >> This place has always been a step above other NG's since I've been
>around
>>
>> >> here (1998), and it's aways been more about the community here than
>> >> current daw wars..
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >>
>> >> TC
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Steve Cox wrote:
>> >>> Hey John, Point taken...Steve
>> >>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>If I ever get PT I'll be here telling everyone how good or lousy it
is
>>
>> >>>>and
>> >>>>it WILL help paris users decide to keep paris or move on. That's
>great
>> >>>
>> >>> help
>> >>>
>> >>>>!
>> >>>>
>> >>>>John
>> >>>>
>> >>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>Hey Steve has a good point, this is the Paris news group, not that
>other
>> >>>>
>> >>>>people
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>aren't welcome! Both guys are entitled to their opinion. I think
>all
>> >>>
>> >>> should
>> >>>
>> >>>>>be welcome.
>> >>>>>For some time there has been a migration away from Paris by former
>Paris
>> >>>>>users. Some people have tried to justify their own choice by saying
>>
>> >>>>>things
>> >>>>>like the waters are safe in PT land, or PT sounds better than Paris.
>> It
>> >>>>>is discouraging to paris users, and kind of trolling. Some PT users
>>
>> >>>>>have
>> >>>>>actually come here in the past just to troll, and it didn't help
our
>>
>> >>>>>group
>> >>>>>much. It is psychological, it makes you feel like your missing out,
>> or
>> >>>>
>> >>>>your
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>getting left behind. When BT left, a lot of people went with him
so
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| Re: What I love about mixing in tandem with Cubase and Paris [message #65246 is a reply to message #65241] |
Wed, 08 March 2006 07:00 |
Deej [1]
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target="_blank">1@linux...
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>Howdy all.
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Sad but exciting moment has arrived. My last Paris tracking
>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> happened
>> >>>>>>>>>>tonight. Six years Paris has been a loyal friend to me, but
its
>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>time
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>to
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>move
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>on.
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> My Pro Tools rig has arrived, and Im setting it up this week.
>> >>>
>> >>> I
>> >>>
>> >>>>>bought
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>a Pro tools HD3 accel PCI-e rig, with a control 24, and a dual
>> 2.0
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>G5.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>Hence
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>the excitement.
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> paris has treated me well. Ive done a number of records on
it
>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> that
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>have
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>done quite well here in Australia. I have won Engineer/producer
>> of
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>the
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>year
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>for the last 2 years here in Western Australia, and I truly
>believe
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>Paris
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>added something to my sound that other digital studios couldnt
>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>achieve.
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> I am keeping my Paris rig, cuz i cant entirely let go yet.
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers to ya all.!!!
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>Dave
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>
>> >
>> >
>> >I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>> >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>***Might as well serve up a big plate of Haggis***
Would that be Merle Haggis?
:)
"gene lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
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>
>I sold my PT rig when I switched to Paris. I did it at the time primarily
>for the sound of the Paris mix bus. This was before HD.
>
>When HD was released, the distinction was far less obvious. HD still sounds
>different from Paris but not awful anymore, just different. Paris still
has
>more of an analog/tape sound plus the added benefit of sounding more aggressive
>when you push the gain stages.
>
>So now the big question! Do I prefer the sound of Paris over other DAWS
because
>its actually makes better sounding recordings, or is it because it is closer
>to the sound I associate with my favorite albums from the last 30 years?
>
>
>I think the truth is closer to the second, and I think this is largely a
>learned behavior,
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| Re: What I love about mixing in tandem with Cubase and Paris [message #65258 is a reply to message #65244] |
Wed, 08 March 2006 19:02 |
chuck duffy
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target="_blank">no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>If I ever get PT I'll be here telling everyone how good or lousy it
>
> is
>
>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>it WILL help paris users decide to keep paris or move on. That's
>>
>>great
>>
>>>>>>help
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>John
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Hey Steve has a good point, this is the Paris news group, not that
>>
>>other
>>
>>>>>>>people
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>aren't welcome! Both guys are entitled to their opinion. I think
>>
>>all
>>
>>>>>>should
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>be welcome.
>>>>>>>>For some time there has been a migration away from Paris by former
>>
>>Paris
>>
>>>>>>>>users. Some people have tried to justify their own choice by saying
>>>
>>>>>>>>things
>>>>>>>>like the waters are safe in PT land, or PT sounds better than Paris.
>>>
>>> It
>>>
>>>>>>>>is discouraging to paris users, and kind of trolling. Some PT users
>>>
>>>>>>>>have
>>>>>>>>actually come here in the past just to troll, and it didn't help
>
> our
>
>>>>>>>>group
>>>>>>>>much. It is psychological, it makes you feel like your missing out,
>>>
>>>or
>>>
>>>>>>>your
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>getting left behind. When BT left, a lot of people went with him
>
> so
>
>>>to
>>>
>>>>>>>speak.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>For the others that are going to switch, if you got to go, Ok, but
>>
>>don't
>>
>>>>>>>>drag people away with you by knocking Paris. We need to encourage
>>>>>>>>people
>>>>>>>>to stick around. This NG is shrinking!
>>>>>>>>I remember vary well a certain somebody, who I will leave unnamed;
>>>
>>>)
>>>
>>>>>>raved
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>about Nuendo for months on end. Now that certain somebody is not
>
> so
>
>>>>>>>>sure
>>>>>>>>that Nuendo is better sounding than Paris! ; ) A couple of guys
>>
>>here
>>
>>>>>>that
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>thought Nuendo was the answer to Paris are now questioning Nuendo.
>>>
>>>Some
>>>
>>>>>>>>times other stuff just sounds different, and initially perceived
>
> as
>
>>>>>>>>being
>>>>>>>>better. Of course paris was left behind feature wise, and some
>>
>>people
>>
>>>>>>love
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>the whiz-bang of all that. Others prefer the capabilities and the
>>>>>>>>working
>>>>>>>>methods of newer software.
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| Re: What I love about mixing in tandem with Cubase and Paris [message #65265 is a reply to message #65258] |
Thu, 09 March 2006 01:42 |
rick
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tinue to have more features
> than Paris, but that's just the way it goes.
>
> This place has always been a step above other NG's since I've been
> around here (1998), and it's aways been more about the community here
> than current daw wars..
>
> Cheers,
>
> TC
>
>
>
>
> Steve Cox wrote:
>
>> Hey John, Point taken...Steve
>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>
>>> If I ever get PT I'll be here telling everyone how good or lousy it
>>> is and
>>> it WILL help paris users decide to keep paris or move on. That's great
>>
>>
>> help
>>
>>> !
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey Steve has a good point, this is the Paris news group, not that
>>>> other
>>>
>>>
>>> people
>>>
>>>> aren't welcome! Both guys are entitled to their opinion. I think all
>>
>>
>> should
>>
>>>> be welcome.
>>>> For some time there has been a migration away from Paris by former
>>>> Paris
>>>> users. Some people have tried to justify their own choice by saying
>>>> things
>>>> like the waters are safe in PT land, or PT sounds better than
>>>> Paris. It
>>>> is discouraging to paris users, and kind of trolling. Some PT users
>>>> have
>>>> actually come here in the past just to troll, and it didn't help our
>>>> group
>>>> much. It is psychological, it makes you feel like your missing out, or
>>>
>>>
>>> your
>>>
>>>> getting left behind. When BT left, a lot of people went with him so to
>>>
>>>
>>> speak.
>>>
>>>> For the others that are going to switch, if you got to go, Ok, but
>>>> don't
>>>> drag people away with you by knocking Paris. We need to encourage
>>>> people
>>>> to stick around. This NG is shrinking!
>>>> I remember vary well a certain somebody, who I will leave unnamed; )
>>
>>
>> raved
>>
>>>> about Nuendo for months on end. Now that certain somebody is not so
>>>> sure
>>>> that Nuendo is better sounding than Paris! ; ) A couple of guys here
>>
>>
>> that
>>
>>>> thought Nuendo was the answer to Paris are now questioning Nuendo.
>>>> Some
>>>> times other stuff just sounds different, and initially perceived as
>>>> being
>>>> better. Of course paris was left behind feature wise, and some people
>>
>>
>> love
>>
>>>> the whiz-bang of all that. Others prefer the capabilities and the
>>>> working
>>>> methods of newer software. There will always be something to come out
>>
>>
>> that
>>
>>>> will be more slick than Paris. Paris is still pretty slick and vary
>>>> useable.
>>>> When combined with a second DAW for effect processing, Paris becomes
>>>> vary
>>>> hard to beat.
>>>>
>>>> Many Paris commercial studio owners have expressed that they have,
>>>> or are
>>>> considering going with PT because it's "The industry standard".
>>>> Many feel
>>>> that if they don't jump to PT that they are losing business. For some
>>
>>
>> people
>>
>>>> this is the case, and they need to do what they need to do.
>>>> However, it
>>>> really should be based on the quality of the end result, not the
>>>> equipment
>>>> you use.
>>>>
>>>> Everybody has different needs. For most project studios, there is
>>>> really
>>>> no need for an expensive system like PT, or 2K for Nuendo, plus the
>>>> cost
>>>> of hardware. If your in a major market like N.Y., L.A., Nashville, or
>>
>>
>> Austin,
>>
>>>> then PT makes sense. For myself, I'm more in to r
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| Re: What I love about mixing in tandem with Cubase and Paris [message #65266 is a reply to message #65265] |
Thu, 09 March 2006 02:58 |
Kim
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ecording live
>>>> instruments,
>>>> so paris works fine and sounds great. The day a record company
>>>> wants to
>>>> give me a million dollars to record an album and insist on a SSL
>>>> 9000 and
>>>> a PT system, I'll buy them. When it comes to making a record, and your
>>>
>>>
>>> talking
>>>
>>>> sound quality, Paris can stand toe to toe with any DAW in the
>>>> world. There
>>>> have been some pretty big records done on Paris, just ask BT. By
>>>> the way,
>>>> he still mixes with Paris!
>>>>
>>>> Opinions are Ok, but I feel that post about PT that are in effect
>>>> saying
>>>> that PT is better than Paris, are not all that helpful to Paris users.
>>
>>
>>
>>>> "Paul" <paul@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Steve,
>>>>>
>>>>> How does YOUR post help this newsgroup? You've been here what...
>>>>> two weeks
>>>>> now and this isn't the first time you've come out swinging. Dave
>>>>> is well
>>>>> respected here and welcome to post whatever the hell he whats to. OK?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dave,
>>>>>> This being a Paris forum and all,.... your post is helping and
>>>>>> encouraging
>>>>>> the Paris users How??
>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>> "Dave Parkin" <dave@blackbirdstudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Howdy all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Havent dropped by in a month or so. Ill endeavour to drop by
>>>>>>> still.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alot
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> of interesting posts to shuffle through....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My PT's rig is going very well. It took me and the pro tools rep
>>
>>
>> less
>>
>>>>>>> than 48 hours to completely swap over systems. That includes the new
>>>
>>>
>>> console
>>>
>>>>>>> and surrounding furniture.
>>>>>>> The main difference to me with the mix bus in PT's, as opposed to
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Paris,
>>>>
>>>>>>> is how much larger it is. Its easier to get cloudy in Paris. Im
>>>>>>> still
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> running
>>>>
>>>>>>> at 48KHz on PT's. Paris certainly was a great way to spend 6 years,
>>
>>
>> but
>>
>>>>>> things
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> really have progressed in the Digidesign world.
>>>>>>> Just a few thoughts.....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hey Dave
>>>>>>>> You know, this group could almost be newly titled to include
>>>>>>>> current
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Paris
>>>>
>>>>>>>> users and Paris users who have moved on to other systems, or Paris
>>
>>
>> users
>>
>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> are using other systems with Paris. For me the greatest loss is
>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> folks
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> leave Paris and then this NG. I hope you'll stick around.
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> MR
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Dave Parkin" <dave@blackbirdstudio.com.au> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:441d9384$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Howdy all.
>>>>>
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| Re: What I love about mixing in tandem with Cubase and Paris [message #65292 is a reply to message #65266] |
Fri, 10 March 2006 01:46 |
rick
Messages: 1976
Registered: February 2006
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t;>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> paris has treated me well. Ive done a number of records
on
>> it
>> >>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> that
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>have
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>done quite well here in Australia. I have won
>Engineer/producer
>> >> of
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>the
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>year
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>for the last 2 years here in Western Australia, and I truly
>> >believe
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>Paris
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>added something to my sound that other digital studios
>couldnt
>> >>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>achieve.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> I am keeping my Paris rig, cuz i cant entirely let go
yet.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers to ya all.!!!
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>Dave
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>> >> >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>Looks cool, but he already owns the VSTi's, and that thing costs 3X
what it would to build a computer. He also wants to load SX on it for
sequencing at home... thanks for the suggestion anyway.
David.
Paul Artola wrote:
> Muse Receptor.
>
> - Paul Artola
> Ellicott City, Maryland
>
> On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 11:39:18 -0600, EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Hi all,
>>
>>A buddy of mine wants to build a soft-synth computer for live use
>>(WinXP). I am looking for MB/CPU recommendations for this. I NEED
>>this MB to have a minimum of 2 PCIx slots for existing hardware.
>>On-board video is actually preferred in this instance.
>>
>>Thanks for any recommendations!
>>
>>David.
>
>I can tell you that cables do make a difference in certain situations. I had
a 10' Hosa "high quality" s/pdif cable run from my Eventide to an RME 9652.
It was unusable, with clicks and high pitched squeels. I returned them as
defective for an identical set. Still had the same problem. I then returned
them for a set of 15' Apogee s/pdif and it is fine. On the other hand, the
Hosa 3' s/pdif cables worked fine in a different situation.
"Edna" <edna@texomaonline.com> wrote in message news:443c615a@linux...
> Are you referring to the coax cables? There's a lot of hype about
> cables,
> don't know how much of it is accurate. May'be an expert here can offer a
> recommendation. I'll be needing some myself.
> Edna
>
> "fred" <fred@reborn.com> wrote in message news:443c012a$1@linux...
>>
>> Any particular brands you would recommend? Saw a number of them on ebay
> pretty
>> cheap, but not sure how good they need to be.
>> Thanks again
>>
>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>> >coax
>> >
>> >"Fred" <fred@reborn.com> wrote in message news:443bf3e5$1@linux...
>> >>
>> >> Is paris spdif coax or optical?
>> >> TIA
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>You're making it real hard for us to follow along. All I know so far is how
to get a bear in a bird feeder !
John
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>not really.............not in a day, at least. I'd have to hire Thad to
>write a 90,000 word *picture book* for it.
>
>;o)
>
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:443cdf7f$1@linux...
>>
>> Can you describe what your cubase/paris hybrid is and does?
>> Thanks DJ
>>
>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>> >With the exception of a few occasional rough spots here and there, my
>> >Cubase/Paris hybrid is exactly what I hoped Paris would eventually
>become.
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