| OT: Mac networking hardware [message #93180] |
Thu, 29 November 2007 13:55  |
TCB
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that Apple sells "cool" better than anyone, and 2) that the others
>> sell "choice" much better simply
>> but putting more obvious choices in front of you (most of which are at
>> least partially redundant of course, but
>> it's still a marketing tactic - and HP and Sony have some seriously cool
>> looking self-contained monitor/cpu systems with very nice wireless
>> keyboards - including a touch screen model from HP for about $1500 that
>> is a blast to use). Again, just an observation.
>
> Choices are good.
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| Re: OT: Mac networking hardware [message #93183 is a reply to message #93180] |
Thu, 29 November 2007 16:41  |
Mark McDermott
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use there are more companies making hardware for MSWindows
>>>>> boxes. That's an advantage because there is more range of choice, and
>>>>> a disadvantage because they all have to dance to the MSWindows beat.
>>>>>
>>>>> Apple has fewer boxes but they control everything on those boxes.
>>>>> That's a disadvantage because of the fewer choices, and an advantage
>>>>> because there is less to go wrong or be incompatible, and if anything
>>>>> does goes wrong, a single company can fix it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> starting at $300 and going up to $10k+. Not that I would buy a $300
>>>>>> desktop, but I still come back to the laptop I'm typing this on,
>>>>>> costing significantly less than the least expensive Macbook (current)
>>>>>> and only a slightly slower cpu (since it's a model from early last
>>>>>> year), for $400 less than the comparable Macbook, but otherwise,
>>>>>> pretty much identical (it
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| Re: OT: Mac networking hardware [message #93201 is a reply to message #93183] |
Fri, 30 November 2007 08:03 |
TCB
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base models. In the PC world
>>>>>>> there are choices in each category at pretty much every $100
>>>>>>> increment,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Right, because there are more companies making hardware for
>>>>>> MSWindows boxes. That's an advantage because there is more range
>>>>>> of choice, and a disadvantage because they all have to dance to
>>>>>> the MSWindows beat.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apple has fewer boxes but they control everything on those boxes.
>>>>>> That's a disadvantage because of the fewer choices, and an
>>>>>> advantage because there is less to go wrong or be incompatible,
>>>>>> and if anything does goes wrong, a single company can fix it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> starting at $300 and going up to $10k+. Not that I would buy a
>>>>>>> $300 desktop, but I still come back to the laptop I'm typing this
>>>>>>> on, costing significantly less than the least expensive Macbook
>>>>>>> (current) and only a slightly slower cpu (since it's a model from
>>>>>>> early last year), for $400 less than the comparable Macbook, but
>>>>>>> otherwise, pretty much identical (it does have a partially
>>>>>>> aluminum case, and feels better
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| Re: OT: Mac networking hardware [message #93202 is a reply to message #93185] |
Fri, 30 November 2007 08:03 |
TCB
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than the Macbooks I've tried).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sounds like you like your computer. Great!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There has to be a reason Apple only has a minority share of the
>>>>>>> personal computer market... ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There are many reasons. It would take too long to recount the
>>>>>> history here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I wasn't trying to knock Apple, and I'm not attached to my PCs
>>>>>>> (other than the significant investment in software that is costly
>>>>>>> to replace or crossgrade) - just saying that imho, Shelly's
>>>>>>> reasoning is based on the fact that he's enamoured with the
>>>>>>> chique (sp?) of Apple, rather than just getting what he needs,
>>>>>>> and that without a mystical, glorious Keynote unveiling of trend
>>>>>>> setting products, that chique doesn't last long.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Poor guy. But his claims went beyond that. I zinged him for his
>>>>>> hyperbole.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Imho, that chique is hurting consumers as it keeps Apple's
>>>>>>> product prices higher, with less range of price point
>>>>>>> competition, but for Apple customers, price doesn't seem to be a
>>>>>
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| Re: OT: Mac networking hardware [message #93209 is a reply to message #93201] |
Fri, 30 November 2007 10:13 |
Mark McDermott
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useful from
>>>>>>>>>> Apple this week. On the top of my wishlist was a true
>>>>>>>>>> sub-notebook. Something I could throw in a portfolio or
>>>>>>>>>> briefcase for short hops."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Since he's not complaining about a lack of ports, I don't know
>>>>>>>>>> why the Air doesn't fulfill that role for him. Maybe he's too
>>>>>>>>>> cool to buy the base version with the hard drive.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> He did like the movie rentals, which I think may be the most
>>>>>>>>>> important announcement of MacWorld for future impact on
>>>>>>>>>> Apple's growth. He did like the Time Capsule, which is at
>>>>>>>>>> least interesting. He hates the iPhone and AT&T, so he'll just
>>>>>>>>>> have to keep complaining about that until their exclusive
>>>>>>>>>> relationship ends.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Neil wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> A great read once again from Mr. Palmer...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Report message to a moderator
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