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> wrote in message news:43677648@linux...
> Hello.
>
> Well,
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there are three cosmeticly different PARIS bundle 3 systems.
> Black with imbus screws, than black with cross(phillips) screws and blue.
>
> BUT, how many revisions are under the hood?
> Every board inside the MEC, I/O, ADAT, EDS, etc.. has some
> PCB (board) revision, year of manufacture and the firmware (ROM chip).
>
> I thought that we could m
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@magma.ca" target="_blank">dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>Looks interesting for sure.
>
>Thanks
>
>Don
>
>"cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote in message news:436a118f$1@linux...
>>
>>
>>
>> Hey Don,
>> check this out :
>> http://www.vintageking.com/s.nl/sc.18/categor
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y.533/it.A/id.5 373/.f
>> I don't know how it sounds but it sure look cool. Some good words at
>> gearslutz
>> about this company, I'm sure much is hype as always.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>>Hi All
>>>
>>>More and more I find myself mixing as opposed to tracking so I've decided
>> to
>>>buy a/an outboard compressor(s) to insert on my Main stereo output.
>>>
>>>Only requirement is that the unit be as transparent as possible as I'm
not
>>
>>>looking to colour my mixes.
>>>
>>>Budget is between $4-$6 K
>>>
>>>I'm aware of many manufacturers but have very limited experience with
high
>>
>>>end units so I'm looking for suggestions and why the suggested unit would
>> be
>>>appropriate.
>>>
>>>Thanks in advance
>>>
>>>Don
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>"cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
>
>
>In the cheaper catagory, what about an old Aphex Compeller? If I recall,
>they were fairly transparent, I could be mistaken though
>

The Compeller is great for tracking with subtle level control, but not for
2 bus.
My first choices for clean 2-bus:

http://www.smartresearch.co.uk/#C2

http://www.solid-state-logic.com/outboard/products/xgseries/

For a little more attitude:

http://mercenary.com/chtg1li.html

And my favorite:
http://www.vintageking.com/s.nl/sc.18/category.336/it.A/id.4 789/.f

Some people consider the Neve a sound-adding compressor, but I think it just
makes the sound creamy. For a more rock/aggressive sound I like the Smart.


Rupert will have a new Portico contender soon. Based on the current offerings,
I am sure this will also be good.

The one area where big commercial studios still kill, is the ability to try
out a variety of mics or pres, or compressors, I will never own this kind
of collection.
Gene http://www.vintageking.com/s.nl/sc.18/category.413/it.A/id.2 68/.f


I'm using a Drawmer 1968ME right now, but I'm eyeing this one.Multi band compression scares the hell outta me...more control but more to
screw up

;-)

Don


"benjamin" <none@a.a> wrote in message news:436a21fb@linux...
> http://www.vintageking.com/s.nl/sc.18/category.413/it.A/id.2 68/.f
>
>
> I'm using a Drawmer 1968ME right now, but I'm eyeing this one.
>Hmm, so Gene, you;d say a Compeller could be good for drum O/H's while tracking
to keep form getting "overs" while still getting a good hot signal into your
pres?
It is sort of like an RNC on supernice no? Right now, I only have a lowly
DBX 166 for this (old one) although, I read somewhere recently that the old
166's are close to the old ssl..Was that you who wrote that? MAy have been
Fletcher


"gene lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>
>"cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>In the cheaper catagory, what about an old Aphex Compeller? If I recall,
>>they were fairly transparent, I could be mistaken though
>>
>
>The Compeller is great for tracking with subtle level control, but not for
>2 bus.
>My first choices for clean 2-bus:
>
>http://www.smartresearch.co.uk/#C2
>
> http://www.solid-state-logic.com/outboard/products/xgseries/
>
>For a little more attitude:
>
>http://mercenary.com/chtg1li.html
>
>And my favorite:
> http://www.vintageking.com/s.nl/sc.18/category.336/it.A/id.4 789/.f
>
>Some people consider the Neve a sound-adding compressor, but I think it
just
>makes the sound creamy. For a more rock/aggressive sound I like the Smart.
>
>
>Rupert will have a new Portico contender soon. Based on the current offerings,
>I am sure this will also be good.
>
>The one area where big commercial studios still kill, is the ability to
try
>out a variety of mics or pres, or compressors, I will never own this kind
>of collection.
>Gene
>Agreed.

"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>Multi band compression scares the hell outta me...more control but more
to
>screw up
>
>;-)
>
>Don
>
>
>"benjamin" <none@a.a> wrote in message news:436a21fb@linux...
>> http://www.vintageking.com/s.nl/sc.18/category.413/it.A/id.2 68/.f
>>
>>
>> I'm using a Drawmer 1968ME right now, but I'm eyeing this one.
>>
>
>isn't the LA-2 the gold standard ?

Don Nafe wrote:
> Hi All
>
> More and more I find myself mixing as opposed to tracking so I've decided to
> buy a/an outboard compressor(s) to insert on my Main stereo output.
>
> Only requirement is that the unit be as transparent as possible as I'm not
> looking to colour my mixes.
>
> Budget is between $4-$6 K
>
> I'm aware of many manufacturers but have very limited experience with high
> end units so I'm looking for suggestions and why the suggested unit would be
> appropriate.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Don
>
>
>One would think so in terms of "vintage"

Don


"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:436a29a9@linux...
> isn't the LA-2 the gold standard ?
>
> Don Nafe wrote:
>> Hi All
>>
>> More and more I find myself mixing as opposed to tracking so I've decided
>> to buy a/an outboard compressor(s) to insert on my Main stereo output.
>>
>> Only requirement is that the unit be as transparent as possible as I'm
>> not looking to colour my mixes.
>>
>> Budget is between $4-$6 K
>>
>> I'm aware of many manufacturers but have very limited experience with
>> high end units so I'm looking for suggestions and why the suggested unit
>> would be appropriate.
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>> Don
>>
>>"cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
>
>Hmm, so Gene, you;d say a Compeller could be good for drum O/H's while tracking
>to keep form getting "overs" while still getting a good hot signal into
your
>pres?
>It is sort of like an RNC on supernice no? Right now, I only have a lowly
>DBX 166 for this (old one) although, I read somewhere recently that the
old
>166's are close to the old ssl..Was that you who wrote that? MAy have been
>Fletcher
>

The Compeller is very much like a RNC on supernice. It has Servo transformerless,
circuitry that makes it VERY clean sounding. Unfortunately, it has no attack
or release controls so it is a little slow for drums. The Compeller could
best be described as an automatic leveler. It sounds like to an engineer
riding input levels rather than like a compressor. I have one and use it
on acoustic instruments and sometimes on vocals before an LA2a or Distressor
type compressor.

Some of the old 166 compressors with the original DBX VCA do sound good.
Closer to a 160VU than any other DBX. I don’t know what the serial number
range is for the good units. I’m not a fan of the later 166 and the early
units are rare. I have a pair of 161s (Unbalanced 160VU) that I hold quite
dear to my heart.
Gene
..On the subject of 2bus / mastering compressors, there are several new contenders
on the software side that close the gap somewhat to the hardware units.
http://www.pspaudioware.com/indexen.html?url=http://www.pspa udioware.com/plugins/mastercomp.html
- Demo sounds very good, and note Sakis endorsement.


New offerings from URS include a Neve and and SSL emulations. – I have not
tried these yet.
I listened to the new plug from Abbey Road (Chandler Limited emulation) at
AES and from what I could tell using headphones it was very close to the
Chandler Limited hardware. The hardware and software were set up to go back
and forth.
Gene
P.S.
PSP MasterComp for 249.00 is not a 4000.00 Neve but should be given a serious
listening.The last time I was in Sony's mastering room in Santa Monica they where using
a Tube-Tech.

James


"benjamin" <none@a.a> wrote:
> http://www.vintageking.com/s.nl/sc.18/category.413/it.A/id.2 68/.f
>
>
>I'm using a Drawmer 1968ME right now, but I'm eyeing this one.
>
>"Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> Looking for opinions on the Daking pre/eq if anyone has used
>it.
>
>TIA,
>Pete

I have one. The eq is excellent and so far I'm very happy with the pre but
I don't have much experience on that side to be able to judge.Sorry i emailed you at your nospam address and
have now emailed you at the other address.
Eugene B





Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>Indeed. I sent you one early yesterday morning and another tonight. I'll
be
>publicly announcing one off's within the next week in a new topic/thread,

>but in the meantime those interested that didn't get one of the original

>DVD's with Brian Tankersley should contact me directly at parispro AT cox

>DOT net .
>
>AA
>
>"Eugene B" <martinlancer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:43693ea8$1@linux...
>>
>> Aaron did you get my email about my interest in
>> the BT oneoffs?
>> Eugene
>
>I haven't run my windows XP machine in awhile, I just started it up and I
no longer have desk top Icons, what's up with that? It runs Ok, but no Icons.

Thought you guys would know.

Thanks
JamesHey Deej,
I know you have a SE Gemini,
Can you tell me what you think it would do on rock vocals?
I know you do a ton of acoustic stuff, will this thing get atttiude?
Is is to whispy for that? Is it harsh or sibilant?
How is the noise floor? Could it hold up infront of a drum kit?

Please tell all ASAP, as I may have a deal on one.Yup. Left click on the desktop, and turn off the desktop cleanup wizard:
Left click > properties>desktop tab>customize desktop>general tab, uncheck
Run Desktop Cleanup Wizard

AA

"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:436ab747$1@linux...
>
> I haven't run my windows XP machine in awhile, I just started it up and I
> no longer have desk top Icons, what's up with that? It runs Ok, but no
> Icons.
>
> Thought you guys would know.
>
> Thanks
> JamesThis is a multi-part message in MIME format.

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Gene,
I have a very early 166 and a 161VU. Is it possible they
use the same vca?!?! I couldn't find anything out doing a=20
google search about it. I wonder if the new DBX (Harmon) would=20
have any records on that? I'd open them up and look
but I'm not sure which component is the VCA. =20

Any tips for me to learn more? I'll look inside for clues.
Tom


"gene lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote in message =
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"cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
>
>Hmm, so Gene, you;d say a Compeller could be good for drum O/H's =
while tracking
>to keep form getting "overs" while still getting a good hot signal =
into
your
>pres?
>It is sort of like an RNC on supernice no? Right now, I only have a =
lowly
>DBX 166 for this (old one) although, I read somewhere recently that =
the
old
>166's are close to the old ssl..Was that you who wrote that? MAy have =
been
>Fletcher
>

The Compeller is very much like a RNC on supernice. It has Servo =
transformerless,
circuitry that makes it VERY clean sounding. Unfortunately, it has no =
attack
or release controls so it is a little slow for drums. The Compeller =
could
best be described as an automatic leveler. It sounds like to an =
engineer
riding input levels rather than like a compressor. I have one and use =
it
on acoustic instruments and sometimes on vocals before an LA2a or =
Distressor
type compressor.

Some of the old 166 compressors with the original DBX VCA do sound =
good.
Closer to a 160VU than any other DBX. I don't know what the serial =
number
range is for the good units. I'm not a fan of the later 166 and the =
early
units are rare. I have a pair of 161s (Unbalanced 160VU) that I hold =
quite
dear to my heart.
Gene
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Just got a great deal on Avid/Magma 7 card PCI expansion chassis but it came
with no IF cable (32 bit). Anyone have one to sell? ...or know where I can
get one cheap?

Thanks mucho,
JonThanks Aaron! I've got my computer and my docs, but where are all my short
cuts? I the properties, it states that desktop clean up wizard placed them
in a folder. What folder, where?

Thanks
James

"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>Yup. Left click on the desktop, and turn off the desktop cleanup wizard:
>Left click > properties>desktop tab>customize desktop>general tab, uncheck

>Run Desktop Cleanup Wizard
>
>AA
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:436ab747$1@linux...
>>
>> I haven't run my windows XP machine in awhile, I just started it up and
I
>> no longer have desk top Icons, what's up with that? It runs Ok, but no

>> Icons.
>>
>> Thought you guys would know.
>>
>> Thanks
>> James
>
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Well, I'm officially in and living on my own for the first time ever. :o)
It's been an adventure and a lot of work in the move.

The guts of home is here. I've still got some minor stuff to move... one
keyboard and it's indoor stand, and various other accessories, but overall
things here are set up and happenning. The Paris system hasn't been set up
yet mind you. It's in peices awaiting me to work out a method of getting
the Paris desk inside. ;o) When I built the desk it was built to use, not
built to move, or get in and out. ;o)

But overall, the kitchen works... the lounge works... the bedroom works...
the toilet works... the phone works... mind you the internet doesn't
work yet. I'm currently on some kind of wireless "go anywhere" system my
work is trialing (fortunately) on my laptop. It's due to be connected next
week though, and once that happens the newsgroup server will be moving with
me. It's currently sitting in my old bedroom at my previous residence in
an empty room. Doing it's job still I see though. ;o)

The great news is that this Friday night PBS radio are playing some great
funk! The other great news is that I have fantastic TV reception here compared
to the old place. I can pick up every free to air channel better than I've
ever seen before through the main antenna in the lounge, and quite well through
my dodgy rabbit ears in my bedroom. I'm enjoying picking up ABC and SBS for
once, the "government" and "world" TV stations.

Living on my own is certainly a new thing. I have very little cash though
at the moment, as I spent it all on those little bits that you don't know
you don't have until you move out of the share house and go "Hold on! I don't
have a..." ;o)

It's going to be fun though. It's wonderful to live somewhere you can watch
what you want, see who you want, put on the CD you want, listen to the radio
station you want, and not be questioned about the whole thing. :o)

Life is good. :o)

Cheers,
Kim.
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ld bedroom at my previous residence
in
>> an empty room. Doing it's job still I see though. ;o)
>>
>> The great news is that this Friday night PBS radio are playing some great
>> funk! The other great news is that I have fantastic TV reception here
compared
>> to the old place. I can pick up every free to air channel better than
I've
>> ever seen before through the main antenna in the lounge, and quite well
through
>> my dodgy rabbit ears in my bedroom. I'm enjoying picking up ABC and SBS
for
>> once, the "government" and "world" TV stations.
>>
>> Living on my own is certainly a new thing. I have very little cash though
>> at the moment, as I spent it all on those little bits that you don't know
>> you don't have until you move out of the share house and go "Hold on!
I don't
>> have a..." ;o)
>>
>> It's going to be fun though. It's wonderful to live somewhere you can
watch
>> what you want, see who you want, put on the CD you want, listen to the
radio
>> station you want, and not be questioned about the whole thing. :o)
>>
>> Life is good. :o)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kim.
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------
>>
>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>Hi All
>
>More and more I find myself mixing as opposed to tracking so I've decided
to
>buy a/an outboard compressor(s) to insert on my Main stereo output.
>
>Only requirement is that the unit be as transparent as possible as I'm not

>looking to colour my mixes.
>
>Budget is between $4-$6 K
>
>I'm aware of many manufacturers but have very limited experience with high

>end units so I'm looking for suggestions and why the suggested unit would
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