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r for electric instruments especially bass and el
> >> guitars.
> >> I never use it for vocals, doesn't compliment vocals , thats my
Re: who's got tats [message #56592 is a reply to message #56591] Wed, 03 August 2005 18:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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oppinion
> >of
> >> course.
> >> The best allarouind preamp is the Amek 9098 with newer (lower
distortion)
> >> opa's, really really fanatstic.
> >> But if you are looki
Re: who's got tats [message #56597 is a reply to message #56591] Wed, 03 August 2005 19:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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end" like in the edit <BR>window ?<BR><BR>If not I'm looking at one =
major=20
cluster f-ck<BR><BR>Don <BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

------=_NextPart_000_0514_01C5B9E4.9D9FBA20--Just for kicks, I was re-reading the PARIS online manual, and
was thinking about how much of the available functions I
actually used. I was pretty surprised at just how much I
DON’T know about or use in PARIS – I’d say my “PARIS technical
understanding and usage-o-meter” is probably around 50-60%.

There is so much coolnes
Re: who's got tats [message #56598 is a reply to message #56597] Wed, 03 August 2005 19:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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s about PARIS that I’ve either never
tried or didn’t even realize existed. How about you? What’s
your PARIS proficiency level? How many features do you
use on a regular basis, and how much do you think you don’t
know or use?I use Tayio Yuden too, but In regards to what Gene said below about it being
the drives, I tried to do a search to see if some of the more popular drives
were studied and compared. I found this study, which included 3 very popular
burners. I have a Lacie drive that has the NEC ND3520A drive in it and was
worried that maybe it wasn't that good of a burner, but it seems to be ok.
Anyway, you folks can read it if you want. It is here:

http://www.techspot.com/reviews/hardware/dvdburner_roundup/i ndex.shtml

Lou


>But honestly…it’s the writer even more than the disks. Errors with a regular
>writer are typically very high, including my G5 Mac’s SuperDrive, even using
Re: who's got tats [message #56603 is a reply to message #56591] Thu, 04 August 2005 00:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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gt;> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>Actually that was one of the articles. The one I read talked about the dual
layer burners and is here:

http://www.techspot.com/reviews/hardware/dvdburner_roundup3/

"Louis Guarino Jr." <Kateeba@snet.net> wrote:
>
>I use Tayio Yuden too, but In regards to what Gene said below about it being
>the drives, I tried to do a search to see if some of the more popular drives
&g
Re: who's got tats [message #56612 is a reply to message #56591] Thu, 04 August 2005 06:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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-able, so save as a different
name. As for adding parts, Go with Tom's method. Not too difficult at all.
I have to do this all the time with corperate stuff I do.
Rod
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Don,
>I would choose your edit point and place a marker there.
>Select and cut all objects and automation data at this po
Re: who's got tats [message #56613 is a reply to message #56591] Thu, 04 August 2005 07:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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int.
>Now cut and paste should work for everything except mutes
>that cross that line. It has worked for me in the past. Surprisingly
>simple if you don't forget where you are in the process.=20
>Tom
> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:4329864e$1@linux...
> Hi All
>
> I've got a song that the band wants to edit in a major way ie: Cutting
=
>out=20
> and Adding sections. The problem is that the song has some major =
>automation=20
> going on and the automations edits will have to be moved, cut or =
>added.
>
> Are there any tricks to doing this ie: "snap to object end"
Re: who's got tats [message #56619 is a reply to message #56613] Thu, 04 August 2005 10:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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nd OMG, for Bass, an API into a DBX 160vu is the dream team come
> >true.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >"cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:4326d8ce$1@linux...
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> Anyone using the great River NV edition?
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> I am looking ot add a single pre for Electric guitars and lead
> >> >> vocals..and
> >> >> > >> what ever else I feel like running through it.
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> I must say my tastes run more late 60's mid 70's so I was
thinking
> >> >> about
> >> >> > >> the Funkenwork..but the dude at mercinary recommended the GR..I
> >love
> >> >mr
> >> >> >
> >> >> > >> AIkens
> >> >> > >> original GR. But I am actually not crazy about the Neve smear
> I
> >> >> sometimes
> >> >> > >> hear.
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> Is this thing versitile enough for recording less agressive
things
> >> >> well?
> >> >> >
Re: who's got tats [message #56621 is a reply to message #56619] Thu, 04 August 2005 10:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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> hope that helps
>
> Rod
> "Jeremy Luzier" <j.luzier@comcast.net> wrote:
> >anyone know the latency on the lookahead settings... 0.01 - 0.050.
> >
> >thanks!
> >
> >
> >
>Are any changes to the mix required, or can this be a 2 track edit??

David.

Don Nafe wrote:
> I'll give these ideas a try...still going to be very time consuming...oh
> well
>
> Don
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net>> wrote
> in message news:43298c22@linux...
> Don,
> I would choose your edit point and place a marker there.
> Select and cut all objects and automation data at this point.
> Now cut and paste should work for everything except mutes
> that cross that line. It has worked for me in the past. Surprisingly
> simple if you don't forget where you are in the process.
> Tom
>
> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca <mailto:dnafe@magma.ca>> wrote in
> message news:4329864e$1@linux...
> Hi All
>
> I've got a song that the band wants to edit in a major way ie:
> Cutting out
> and Adding sections. The problem is that the song has some major
> automation
> going on and the automations edits will have to be moved, cut or
> added.
>
> Are there any tricks to doing this ie: "snap to object end" like
> in the edi
Re: who's got tats [message #56624 is a reply to message #56621] Thu, 04 August 2005 11:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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">dnafe@magma.ca">dnafe@magma.ca</A>>=20
>> wrote in message <A=20
>> href=3D"news:4329864e$1@linux">news:4329864e$1@linux</A>...</DIV>Hi=20
>> All<BR><BR>I've got a song that the band wants to edit in a major way
> =
>>ie:=20
>> Cutting out <BR>and Adding sections. The problem is that the song has
> =
>>some=20
>> major automation <BR>going on and the automations edits will have to =
>>be moved,=20
>> cut or added.<BR><BR>Are there any tricks to doing this ie: "snap to =
>>object=20
>> end" like in the edit <BR>window ?<BR><BR>If not I'm looking at one =
>>major=20
>> cluster f-ck<BR><BR>Don <BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
>>
>>
>Still on a learning curve (as per my previous post)

50% max

Don


"Deadmeat" <scott@postmodernblues.com> wrote in message
news:43298ce8$1@linux...
>
> Just for kicks, I was re-reading the PARIS online manual, and
> was thinking about how much of the available functions I
> actually used. I was pretty surprised at just how much I
> DON'T know about or use in PARIS - I'd say my "PARIS technical
> understanding and usage-o-meter" is probably around 50-60%.
>
> There is so much coolness about PARIS that I've either never
> tried or didn't even realize existed. How about you? What's
> your PARIS proficiency level? How many features do you
> use on a regular basis, and how much do you think you don't
> know or use?
>Speaking of bios, find the reset jumper pins on the MB and short them together.
This resets the bios. I've had to do that to one of my pc's several times.


"erlilo" <erlilo@online.no> wrote:
>If there's no beep at all anymore and the monitor is totally black, it seems

>more that the bios isn't working at all to get things started. It's the
bios
>that's first of all is taking care of what shall be started up first with
a
>computer and sending
Re: who's got tats [message #56625 is a reply to message #56621] Thu, 04 August 2005 11:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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this information to the chipset and most of the things

>to start up or not you can automatic or manually set up in the bios.
>So, the first thing the bios need is power. If the power is OK, than the

>next is a healthy Graphic card and RAM. If that's OK too, it's a bad
>motherboard left. If you can't come into the bios at all with the delete

>button when starting up, the problem must be in one of those 4 things. You

>don't need a harddisk at all to start a PC, you can start it from a floppy

>too, with a startup disk in DOS mode if things are OK.
>
>Erling
>
>"Brandon" <brandon_goodwin@REMOVETHISsbcglobal.net> skrev i en meddelelse

>news:43289baa@linux...
>> Do you have a floppy in the A: drive????
>>
>> Remove it!!!!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:43288c38$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Hey Pete,
>>> I'm wondering if it might help to try a new mobo battery. I had a
>>> similar,
>>> can't recall if the exact, problem you're having. A new battery cleared
>>> it up.
>>> MR
>>>
>>> "Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> SO I turn on my PC and everything comes on,fans,lights,but
>>>>nothing comes on the monitor.It doesn't sound like the computer
>>>>is going through its normal boot sequence either.I tried the
>>>>reset button,nothing happens.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not too PC savvy as this is my first PC.
>>>>
>>>>Any help PLEASE?!
>>>>
>>>>Pete
>>>
>>
>>
>
>Hi,
Can some one tel me please how can used Waves Plug-ins with Paris Pro?
Thanks!!!It's ugly. Started having *lots* of clocking problems. Traced it to an IF-2
that had started going south, it seems. If you start having unexplained
wierdness and have IF-2's hooked up to you MEC, try unplugging t
Re: who's got tats [message #56628 is a reply to message #56625] Thu, 04 August 2005 11:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deej [1] is currently offline  Deej [1]   UNITED STATES
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and your tracks AND automation will be exactly
where you want them. This is WAY easier than it sounds once you get your
head around it.
Rod
"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>Will the automation edits after the time delete move forward?
>
>This could be handy if they do
>
>Don
>
>
>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>news:43299788$1@linux...
>>
>> using "delete time", in the editor will delete the parts of the song you

>> want
>> and also delete the automation. Very slick. Not undo-able, so save as
a
>> different
>> name. As for adding parts, Go with Tom's method. Not too difficult at
all.
>> I have to do this all the time with corperate stuff I do.
>> Rod
>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>Don,
>>>I would choose your edit point and place a marker there.
>>>Select and cut all objects and automation data at this point.
>>>Now cut and paste should work for everything except mutes
>>>that cross that line. It has worked for me in the past. Surprisingly
>>>simple if you don't forget where you are in the process.=20
>>>Tom
>>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:4329864e$1@linux...
>>> Hi All
>>>
>>> I've got a song that the band wants to edit in a major way ie: Cutting
>> =
>>>out=20
>>> and Adding sections. The problem is that the song has some major =
>>>automation=20
>>> going on and the automations edits will have to be moved, cut or =
>>>added.
>>>
>>> Are there any tricks to doing this ie: "snap to object end" like in
=
>>>the edit=20
>>> window ?
>>>
>>> If not I'm looking at one major cluster f-ck
>>>
>>> Don=20
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>><HTML><HEAD>
>>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>>><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3DGENERATOR>
>>><STYLE></STYLE>
>>></HEAD>
>>><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Don,</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I would choose your edit point and =
>>>place a marker=20
>>>there.</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Select and cut all objects and =
>>>automation data at=20
>>>this point.</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV&
Re: who's got tats [message #56629 is a reply to message #56621] Thu, 04 August 2005 12:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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gt;<FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Now cut and paste should work for =
>>>everything except=20
>>>mutes</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>that cross that line. It has =
>>>worked for me in=20
>>>the past. Surprisingly</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>simple if you don't forget where you
=
>>>are in the=20
>>>process.</FONT> </DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>>><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>>>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>>> <DIV>"Don Nafe" <<A =
>>>href=3D"mailto:dnafe@magma.ca">dnafe@magma.ca</A>>=20
>>> wrote in message <A=20
>>> href=3D"news:4329864e$1@linux">news:4329864e$1@linux</A>...</DIV>Hi=20
>>> All<BR><BR>I've got a song that the band wants to edit in a major way
>> =
>>>ie:=20
>>> Cutting out <BR>and Adding sections. The problem is that the song has
>> =
>>>some=20
>>> major automation <BR>going on and the automations edits will have to
=
>>>be moved,=20
>>> cut or added.<BR><BR>Are there any tricks to doing this ie: "snap to
=
>>>object=20
>>> end" like in the edit <BR>window ?<BR><BR>If not I'm looking at one
=
>>>major=20
>>> cluster f-ck<BR><BR>Don <BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>Had an issue with an IF/2 that caused the phasing to be so weird it
literally caused our ears to hurt. At first we though it was the
outboard equipment so we did a loopback and the problem persisted.
Replaced it with another IF/2 and the problem went away. The old IF/2
is in a Goodwill somewhere

:o)

JH

DJ wrote:
> It's ugly. Started having *lots* of clocking problems. Traced it to an IF-2
> that had started going south, it seems. If you start having unexplained
> wi
Re: who's got tats [message #56631 is a reply to message #56621] Thu, 04 August 2005 12:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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quencies in these two
instruments. The dobro sounds *much louder* in the cans than it does in the
speaker and the mandolin sounds *much softer*.

I'm wondering if it's a wierd anomalie in my room and I should be trusting
more in the cans as far as relative levels are concerned.

I'm also wondering if there is a set of cans out there that is recommended
or better regarded than the K240's for this kind of job.

DeejBill Hubauer <bill@tenpointten.com> wrote:
>
>Hi all,
>
>I used to hang out here all the time, but its probably been a few years

>now. I just stopped by to see if there was still activity.
>
>I don't use PARIS much any more except for basic tracks, then I move
>everything into Logic Pro for overdubs and mixing.
>
>I've been seduced by the plug-ins and automation available in Logic.
>And yes, I can hear a difference on the mix buss... It still wrenches

>my gut sometimes, but I can't help myself. ;-)
>
>Last time I was here people were talking about using PARIS as a mix buss

>for Native DAWs. Are there people still doing this? Is it worth it?
>
>Thanks!
>Bill

Bill,

Not too long ago I bought a little Paris rig to do this very thing. Haven't
really had time to experiment with it though, hopefully I can in the near
future.

For me part of the sound was the converters and the effects. Still not totaly
convinced of the mixbuss difference but there could be something to it.

JesseWhat are your favourite mastering plugins.
I have the waves gold and uad studio pak
and all the plugs in logic most of the paris plugs.Never trust the cans. Never. Use them like your car stereo, as
a comparison, but they are not for evaluating, and making final
decisions on a mix. Try some different speakers, or a friend's studio
just to see what is going on.

Having said that, my favorite cans are these:

http://www.ultrasone.com/htdocs/08_frameset/proline_index.ph p

I use the 650's Wonderful

DC







"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>I've been using AKG K240 (600 ohm Gold series) for years.I primarily use
>them just for double checking relative levels of tracks and reverb sends.
>Since I seldom use them and don't recall ever having used them when mixing
>bluegrass projects, something wierd has come to my attention.
>
>I've noticed a huge discrepancy between these and what I'm hearing on my
>reference monitors as far as levels go when mixing dobro and mandolin. It's
>really strange that it would be just the frequencies in these two
>instruments. The dobro sounds *much louder* in the cans than it does in
the
>speaker and the mandolin sounds *much softer*.
>
>I'm wondering if it's a wierd anomalie in my room and I should be trusting
>more in the cans as far as relative levels are concerned.
>
>I'm also wondering if there is a set of cans out there that is recommended
>or better regarded than the K240's for this kind of job.
>
>Deej
>
>I use Beyer DT880's when I absolutely have to use headphones. My ears don't
tolerate that close coupling anymore.

Sennheiser 600's and Beyer DT770's are also nice, IMO.


"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>I've been using AKG K240 (600 ohm Gold series) for years.I primarily use
>them just for double checking relative levels of tracks and reverb sends.
>Since I seldom use them and don't recall ever having used them when mixing
>bluegrass projects, something wierd has come to my attention.
>
>I've noticed a huge discrepancy between these and what I'm hearing on my
>reference monitors as far as levels go when mixing dobro and mandolin. It's
>really strange that it would be just the frequencies in these two
>instruments. The dobro sounds *much louder* in the cans than it does in
the
>speaker and the mandolin sounds *much softer*.
>
>I'm wondering if it's a wierd anomalie in my room and I should be trusting
>more in the cans as far as relative levels are concerned.
>
>I'm also wondering if there is a set of cans out there that is recommended
>or better regarded than the K240's for this kind of job.
>
>Deej
>
>The standard Paris compressor and Freak Q.
rod
"Eugene B." <martinlancer@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>What are your favourite mastering plugins.
>I have the waves gold and uad studio pak
>and all the plugs in logic most of the paris plugs."Eugene B." <martinlancer@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>What are your favourite mastering plugins.
>I have the waves gold and uad studio pak
>and all the plugs in logic most of the paris plugs.

Hydratone, Creamware Optimaster and Vinco, SAW Leveliser.
Everything but Hydratone is platform specific though.So I stripped it down to CPU,mobo(no pci,video cards or ram).I
was still getting no beeps,just fans and lights.

I got an Antec 480w Neo.I was going to get a 500w Antec,but I
was told this delivered stronger consistent power.Installed it
and I get the same thing,lights and fans.This is still stripped
down to cpu,mobo.

So what to try next?I'm guessing it could only be the cpu or
mobo now,correct?

At least I'm getting to know my PC more intimately now;yeah
great!

PeteJust threw in the ram chips seperately to check,no change.Also
tried without drives connected the same.Looks like I'm heading
to the local comp shop tommorrow to test the cpu and mobo.

Thanks to Jeff Hoover too for advice and a late night call.

AAAAARRRRRGH!

Pete


"Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> So I stripped it down to CPU,mobo(no pci,video cards or ram).I
>was still getting no beeps,just fans and lights.
>
> I got an Antec 480w Neo.I was going to get a 500w Antec,but I
>was told this delivered stronger consistent power.Installed it
>and I get the same thing,lights and fans.This is still stripped
>down to cpu,mobo.
>
> So what to try next?I'm guessing it could only be the cpu or
>mobo now,correct?
>
> At least I'm getting to know my PC more intimately now;yeah
>great!
>
>PeteOkay group, your thoughts please: Grand piano, with vocal... Best
ideas for the killer sound... Nobody else in the room 'cept maybe a
little stand up bass, occasional snare with a brush on it over in the
corner.(nice sounding room)... How did the white coat lads approach
this in ye olden days? Preferred mics, placement, signal path, all
that good stuff. Music is sparse jazzy piano vocal -- need that thing
to be capital G gorgeous...

Any and all suggestions gratefully accepted -- Chas."Eugene B." <martinlancer@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>What are your favourite mastering plugins.
>I have the waves gold and uad studio pak
>and all the plugs in logic most of the paris plugs.

Izotpe Ozone is very good, IMO

NeilThat's piano 101?

Here I was expecting "Where's middle C"? ;o)Well, i dont know what the white-coated dudes did, but I always
liked a c-414 over the low wires and another over the highs.
As for vox mic... whatever works with the singers' voice... how
much more simple could it be? Brushed-only snare? Stick a nice
condensor into a clean mic pre a foot or so away & see what you
get... adjust distance as necessary.

Neil



Chas. Duncan <duncan5199@SPAMLESSsbcglobal.net> wrote:
>Okay group, your thoughts please: Grand piano, with vocal... Best
>ideas for the killer sound... Nobody else in the room 'cept maybe a
>little stand up bass, occasional snare with a brush on it over in the
>corner.(nice sounding room)... How did the white coat lads approach
>this in ye olden days? Preferred mics, placement, signal path, all
>that good stuff. Music is sparse jazzy piano vocal -- need that thing
>to be capital G gorgeous...
>
>Any and all suggestions gratefully accepted -- Chas.
>
>Take the lid off. KM84's spaced stereo pair, about 18-24 inches
apart, right over the hammers. Good, short cables. preamp right
there on the floor. Use a Jensen 990, like a John Hardy, and a
great A-D convertor.

When you hear this, you won't even care about the singer...

DC



Chas. Duncan <duncan5199@SPAMLESSsbcglobal.net> wrote:
>Okay group, your thoughts please: Grand piano, with vocal... Best
>ideas for the killer sound... Nobody else in the room 'cept maybe a
>little stand up bass, occasional snare with a brush on it over in the
>corner.(nice sounding room)... How did the white coat lads approach
>this in ye olden days? Preferred mics, placement, signal path, all
>that good stuff. Music is sparse jazzy piano vocal -- need that thing
>to be capital G gorgeous...
>
>Any and all suggestions gratefully accepted -- Chas.
>
>I'm trying to work out what else to add to my setup. I already have a digital
piano, a decent basic analog synth, and a nice harsh 12 bit sampler. ;o)
I'm thinking of getting a little rack mount MIDI box to make some more interesting
wierd off-beat sounds. I was thinking of adding a Roland JV-1010, but I'm
thinking those sounds will be more "standard". I'm keen to have some less
usual sounds in the arsenal.

Anybody know a nice, preferably cheap, option for some kooky interesting
synth sounds?

Cheers,
Kim.“White coat lads approach”

Starting with a good piano in a good room:
Lid on but open.
B&K 4011 pair about 5 feet from piano and 5 feet apart.
Good fast pre like– John Hardy Twin Servo or GML.
Move 1 mic carefully while listening for best phase relationship and sound.
(Small moves)
A phase scope always helps with this kind of critical pair setup.

This is less “in your face” than modern super-stereo-direct-over-strings
sound, but big and real sounding.


Vocals male: Early Telefunken, Neve 1172, LA2A.

Vocals female: Early C12, Neve 1084, LA2A.

Gene


Chas. Duncan <duncan5199@SPAMLESSsbcglobal.net> wrote:
>Okay group, your thoughts please: Grand piano, with vocal... Best
>ideas for the killer sound... Nobody else in the room 'cept maybe a
>little stand up bass, occasional snare with a brush on it over in the
>corner.(nice sounding room)... How did the white coat lads approach
>this in ye olden days? Preferred mics, placement, signal path, all
>that good stuff. Music is sparse jazzy piano vocal -- need that thing
>to be capital G gorgeous...
>
>Any and all suggestions gratefully accepted -- Chas.
>
>asked the wife, but she nixed the whole "pairs" idea saying while
looking south "it's either them or me"

On 16 Sep 2005 01:02:00 +1000, "Deadmeat" <scott@postmodernblues.com>
wrote:

>
>Just for kicks, I was re-reading the PARIS online manual, and
>was thinking about how much of the available functions I
>actually used. I was pretty surprised at just how much I
>DON’T know about or use in PARIS – I’d say my “PARIS technical
>understanding and usage-o-meter” is probably around 50-60%.
>
>There is so much coolness about PARIS that I’ve either never
>tried or didn’t even realize existed. How about you? What’s
>your PARIS proficiency level? How many features do you
>use on a regular basis, and how much do you think you don’t
>know or use?URS eq'stake it to your local pc store that sells motherboards and sit with them
as they swap the motherboard keeping your cpu and see if that works.
John

Pete Ruthenburg wrote:
> Just threw in the ram chips seperately to check,no change.Also
> tried without drives connected the same.Looks like I'm heading
> to the local comp shop tommorrow to test the cpu and mobo.
>
> Thanks to Jeff Hoover too for advice and a late night call.
>
> AAAAARRRRRGH!
>
> Pete
>
>
> "Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> So I stripped it down to CPU,mobo(no pci,video cards or ram).I
>>was still getting no beeps,just fans and lights.
>>
>> I got an Antec 480w Neo.I was going to get a 500w Antec,but I
>>was told this delivered stronger consistent power.Installed it
>>and I get the same thing,lights and fans.This is still stripped
>>down to cpu,mobo.
>>
>> So what to try next?I'm guessing it could only be the cpu or
>>mobo now,correct?
>>
>> At least I'm getting to know my PC more intimately now;yeah
>>great!
>>
>>Pete
>
>Just a heads up - this will be New Englands
first Big Music Show ( Like NAMM ) in Hartford CT
Sept 17 / 18

Brian Tankersley will be on hand Saturday at our Booth
and doing a workshop Saturday.

We will be detailing the all new AMD QUAD CPU
computer presently in use @ Lakewood !
The absolute highest track count and plugin record
in the world !!!

If anyone is interested - Please let me know

http://www.nemexpo.com

Morgan
Eastcoast Music Mall
morganp@ntplx.net
800-901-2001> We will be detailing the all new AMD QUAD CPU
> computer presently in use @ Lakewood !
> The absolute highest track count and plugin record
> in the world !!!


........of course, it doesn't matter at all that I don't really need one of
these for what I do here, but............................

;o)

"Morgan" <morganp@ntplx.net> wrote in message news:432ab10f@linux...
> Just a heads up - this will be New Englands
> first Big Music Show ( Like NAMM ) in Hartford CT
> Sept 17 / 18
>
> Brian Tankersley will be on hand Saturday at our Booth
> and doing a workshop Saturday.
>
> We will be detailing the all new AMD QUAD CPU
> computer presently in use @ Lakewood !
> The absolute highest track count and plugin record
> in the world !!!
>
> If anyone is interested - Please let me know
>
> http://www.nemexpo.com
>
> Morgan
> Eastcoast Music Mall
> morganp@ntplx.net
> 800-901-2001
>Ensoniq MR Rack has some nice synth sounds.


"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:432a6866$1@linux...
>
>
> I'm trying to work out what else to add to my setup. I already have a
digital
> piano, a decent basic analog synth, and a nice harsh 12 bit sampler. ;o)
> I'm thinking of getting a little rack mount MIDI box to make some more
interesting
> wierd off-beat sounds. I was thinking of adding a Roland JV-1010, but I'm
> thinking those sounds will be more "standard". I'm keen to have some less
> usual sounds in the arsenal.
>
> Anybody know a nice, preferably cheap, option for some kooky interesting
> synth sounds?
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.Thanks for the confirmation Rod

don


"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:4329db78$1@linux...
>
> Using "delete time" will get rid of the audio and move the audio that's
> after
> the deleted portion forward (or back depending on what you call it)so it
> butts up to the audio that was before the part you took out (which is what
> you want) and the EXACT same thing happens to the automation. It's way
> cool.
> In other words, if you want to delete 8 bars from the chours, turn your
> grid
> and snap on, set it to bars. Shift click on the time line so the now line
> snaps to EXACTLY beat 1 of the first bar you want to take out, select
> delete
> time, select bars, type in 4, select all tracks and all submixes, and hit
> enter. The 4 bars will be gone and your tracks AND automation will be
> exactly
> where you want them. This is WAY easier than it sounds once you get your
> head around it.
> Rod
> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>Will the automation edits after the time delete move forward?
>>
>>This could be handy if they do
>>
>>Don
>>
>>
>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>news:43299788$1@linux...
>>>
>>> using "delete time", in the editor will delete the parts of the song you
>
>>> want
>>> and also delete the automation. Very slick. Not undo-able, so save as
> a
>>> different
>>> name. As for adding parts, Go with Tom's method. Not too difficult at
> all.
>>> I have to do this all the time with corperate stuff I do.
>>> Rod
>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Don,
>>>>I would choose your edit point and place a marker there.
>>>>Select and cut all objects and automation data at this point.
>>>>Now cut and paste should work for everything except mutes
>>>>that cross that line. It has worked for me in the past. Surprisingly
>>>>simple if you don't forget where you are in the process.=20
>>>>Tom
>>>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:4329864e$1@linux...
>>>> Hi All
>>>>
>>>> I've got a song that the band wants to edit in a major way ie: Cutting
>>> =
>>>>out=20
>>>> and Adding sections. The problem is that the song has some major =
>>>>automation=20
>>>> going on and the automations edits will have to be moved, cut or =
>>>>added.
>>>>
>>>> Are there any tricks to doing this ie: "snap to object end" like in
> =
>>>>the edit=20
>>>> window ?
>>>>
>>>> If not I'm looking at one major cluster f-ck
>>>>
>>>> Don=20
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>><HTML><HEAD>
>>>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>>>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>>>><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3DGENERATOR>
>>>><STYLE></STYLE>
>>>></HEAD>
>>>><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Don,</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I would choose your edit point and =
>>>>place a marker=20
>>>>there.</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Select and cut all objects and =
>>>>automation data at=20
>>>>this point.</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Now cut and paste should work for =
>>>>everything except=20
>>>>mutes</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>that cross that line. It has =
>>>>worked for me in=20
>>>>the past. Surprisingly</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>simple if you don't forget where you
> =
>>>>are in the=20
>>>>process.</FONT> </DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>>>><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>>>>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>>>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>>>> <DIV>"Don Nafe" <<A =
>>>>href=3D"mailto:dnafe@magma.ca">dnafe@magma.ca</A>>=20
>>>> wrote in message <A=20
>>>> href=3D"news:4329864e$1@linux">news:4329864e$1@linux</A>...</DIV>Hi=20
>>>> All<BR><BR>I've got a song that the band wants to edit in a major way
>>> =
>>>>ie:=20
>>>> Cutting out <BR>and Adding sections. The problem is that the song has
>>> =
>>>>some=20
>>>> major automation <BR>going on and the automations edits will have to
> =
>>>>be moved,=20
>>>> cut or added.<BR><BR>Are there any tricks to doing this ie: "snap to
> =
>>>>object=20
>>>> end" like in the edit <BR>window ?<BR><BR>If not I'm looking at one
> =
>>>>major=20
>>>> cluster f-ck<BR><BR>Don <BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>nord micro modular ?

"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
432ac3ad@linux...
> Ensoniq MR Rack has some nice synth sounds.
>
>
> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:432a6866$1@linux...
> >
> >
> > I'm trying to work out what else to add to my setup. I already have a
> digital
> > piano, a decent basic analog synth, and a nice harsh 12 bit sampler. ;o)
> > I'm thinking of getting a little rack mount MIDI box to make some more
> interesting
> > wierd off-beat sounds. I was thinking of adding a Roland JV-1010, but
I'm
> > thinking those sounds will be more "standard". I'm keen to have some
less
> > usual sounds in the arsenal.
> >
> > Anybody know a nice, preferably cheap, option for some kooky interesting
> > synth sounds?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Kim.
>
>Grado SR 325 or better...need a burn in time, a tad rich $400 CDN for the
325's but I haven't heard anything better.

Came by them via recommendation of Slipperman on PSW

Don


"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:4329e2f1@linux...
> I've been using AKG K240 (600 ohm Gold series) for years.I primarily use
> them just for double checking relative levels of tracks and reverb sends.
> Since I seldom use them and don't recall ever having used them when mixing
> bluegrass projects, something wierd has come to my attention.
>
> I've noticed a huge discrepancy between these and what I'm hearing on my
> reference monitors as far as levels go when mixing dobro and mandolin.
> It's
> really strange that it would be just the frequencies in these two
> instruments. The dobro sounds *much louder* in the cans than it does in
> the
> speaker and the mandolin sounds *much softer*.
>
> I'm wondering if it's a wierd anomalie in my room and I should be trusting
> more in the cans as far as relative levels are concerned.
>
> I'm also wondering if there is a set of cans out there that is recommended
> or better regarded than the K240's for this kind of job.
>
> Deej
>
>Two soft synths that can be very interesting:
NI, Absynth. (The quintessential movie score synth.)
Camel Audio, Cameleon 5000. (Easy to get unusual sounds but not super hi-fi.)

The Korg Wavestation can do very unique sounds and is available as software
or as a used kbd on ebay. I would go with the software version.
Gene


"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>I'm trying to work out what else to add to my setup. I already have a digital
>piano, a decent basic analog synth, and a nice harsh 12 bit sampler. ;o)
>I'm thinking of getting a little rack mount MIDI box to make some more interesting
>wierd off-beat sounds. I was thinking of adding a Roland JV-1010, but I'm
>thinking those sounds will be more "standard". I'm keen to have some less
>usual sounds in the arsenal.
>
>Anybody know a nice, preferably cheap, option for some kooky interesting
>synth sounds?
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.You are quite right. The Roland is great for recreating other
instruments, but as a twiddle-the-knobs-and-see-what-happens
instrument, it is lacking.

Two of my faves are little sleeper synths - didn't make much impact in
the marketplace and are no longer produced, but they are on ebay for a
good price ($100-150 each). The Yamaha AN-200 and DX-200 are little
groovebox, step sequencers, with 3 rhythm channels and a synth
channel, but in each, the synth channel just rocks. The AN-200 is an
analog modelling synth and the DX-200 is Yamaha's latest (last?)
generation of FM synthesis. These tabletop boxes have many knobs to
twiddle, and you can set up two different sounds and morph between
them. Cool for sweeps and transitions.

Along the line of the already mentioned Korg Wavestation is the
Waldorf Wave family and the Ensoniq Fizmo. These will definitely take
you places the JV1010 only dreams of!

- Paul Artola
Ellicott City, Maryland


On 16 Sep 2005 16:38:30 +1000, "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>I'm trying to work out what else to add to my setup. I already have a digital
>piano, a decent basic analog synth, and a nice harsh 12 bit sampler. ;o)
>I'm thinking of getting a little rack mount MIDI box to make some more interesting
>wierd off-beat sounds. I was thinking of adding a Roland JV-1010, but I'm
>thinking those sounds will be more "standard". I'm keen to have some less
>usual sounds in the arsenal.
>
>Anybody know a nice, preferably cheap, option for some kooky interesting
>synth sounds?
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.Hi Pete,

The way a PC mobo works is that if anything is wrong on start up, it will
give a series of beeps to let the user know what is wrong. For example,
if there is no ram, you get a certain series of beeps. If the vido card
is bad, it should give another set of beeps. If there is no CPU, it can't
give any set of beeps because the PC can't function at all without a CPU.
So, that is probably your problem.

Keep in mind, though, that even if it is the CPU that is bad, something else
could have caused it to die on you. There may be a motherboard issue (like
a voltage regulation problem) even if it turns out to be the chip that is
causing this immediate problem.

Good luck!

Mike






"Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> Just threw in the ram chips seperately to check,no change.Also
>tried without drives connected the same.Looks like I'm heading
>to the local comp shop tommorrow to test the cpu and mobo.
>
>Thanks to Jeff Hoover too for advice and a late night call.
>
>AAAAARRRRRGH!
>
>Pete
>
>
>"Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>> So I stripped it down to CPU,mobo(no pci,video cards or ram).I
>>was still getting no beeps,just fans and lights.
>>
>> I got an Antec 480w Neo.I was going to get a 500w Antec,but I
>>was told this delivered stronger consistent power.Installed it
>>and I get the same thing,lights and fans.This is still stripped
>>down to cpu,mobo.
>>
>> So what to try next?I'm guessing it could only be the cpu or
>>mobo now,correct?
>>
>> At least I'm getting to know my PC more intimately now;yeah
>>great!
>>
>>Pete
>I’ve always recorded song ideas in MIDI using Opcode Vision to save space
on the hard drive. Now, I’m thinking maybe I could do the same in Paris and
let Vision go, but before I make all the settings and the commitment to learn
how Paris handles MIDI, can anyone tell me:
1) By using Paris for MIDI, will I end up with the same size files that I
would in Vision (vis a vis hard drive space), or would the Paris/MIDI files
be bigger?
2) Does Paris’ MIDI function anything like Vision in regard to looping, quantizing,
editing, etc.

One other question: I’m still using a Beige G3 with Paris, but it’s nearing
the end of its service life. What was the last, and fastest, Apple tower
and OS that worked with Paris 3.0 before Apple moved to USB/Firewire and
OSX (which I assume are incompatible with my Paris MEC and Paris 3.0)?

Thanks.
Richard FaylorJust install the DX version of the plug-in as normal and they should show up
in the insert section of the mixer in Paris.


"ulfiyya" <ulfiyya@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:4329bb8b$1@linux...
>
> Hi,
> Can some one tel me please how can used Waves Plug-ins with Paris Pro?
> Thanks!!!Anyone know of a sweet deal on Cubase SX3? I have Cubase SE, so I can upgrade,
and the best price I've found so far is $479 with free shipping and no sales
tax.

Thanks!

- StefanI'm with Don on the lid thing... best piano sound I ever got was
lid-off using an X/Y pair of C12vr 5' off the harp, dead center facing
straight down. I also used a U-47 underneath to fill in some "body".
If you do the spaced pair over the hammers (a brighter jazz tone) be
sure to angle the mic's away from the player, otherwise they will pick
up too much vocal. I agree with the solid state "clean pre" advise as
well... this this much "air" in the tracks, the tube noise would get
distracting. Just for giggles I would also stick a couple of room
mic's back about 8'... can't hurt.

The tuning of the piano is critical, make sure to get a really good
tuner, and get it "tweaked" again during lunch breaks. Any time we
have done a serious piano session, the tuner is sitting around for the
duration of the session to keep on top of it. After 6 hours of
session work, the partial balance will change enough that it will
sound like two different pianos if the early and late tracks are
placed side by side.

Enjoy the session!! these types of recordings are my fav's!

David.

DC wrote:
> Take the lid off. KM84's spaced stereo pair, about 18-24 inches
> apart, right over the hammers. Good, short cables. preamp right
> there on the floor. Use a Jensen 990, like a John Hardy, and a
> great A-D convertor.
>
> When you hear this, you won't even care about the singer...
>
> DC
>
>
>
> Chas. Duncan <duncan5199@SPAMLESSsbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>>Okay group, your thoughts please: Grand piano, with vocal... Best
>>ideas for the killer sound... Nobody else in the room 'cept maybe a
>>little stand up bass, occasional snare with a brush on it over in the
>>corner.(nice sounding room)... How did the white coat lads approach
>>this in ye olden days? Preferred mics, placement, signal path, all
>>that good stuff. Music is sparse jazzy piano vocal -- need that thing
>>to be capital G gorgeous...
>>
>>Any and all suggestions gratefully accepted -- Chas.
>>
>>
>
>Look for an EMU Audity... cool stuff.

David.

Kim wrote:

> I'm trying to work out what else to add to my setup. I already have a digital
> piano, a decent basic analog synth, and a nice harsh 12 bit sampler. ;o)
> I'm thinking of getting a little rack mount MIDI box to make some more interesting
> wierd off-beat sounds. I was thinking of adding a Roland JV-1010, but I'm
> thinking those sounds will be more "standard". I'm keen to have some less
> usual sounds in the arsenal.
>
> Anybody know a nice, preferably cheap, option for some kooky interesting
> synth sounds?
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.Since i was thinking of upgrading my studio pak
and using for itb mastering are they worth the cost?Hmmmm.........so I'm pricing out a Tyan 2885 mobo with a pair of dual core
2.2G Opterons a Colorgraphics Xentera Quad video card, a pair of 74G 10k RPM
WD Raptors, a CD/DVD RW, a 500G backup drive and a 250 G system drive, plus
16 gigs of PC 3200 ECC DDR, a rack case, a 900W redundant PSU and a new 64
bit Magma chassis so that I can operate my RME hardware at 64bit and I'm
well over $12,000.00.

Piece of cake. Now where's that credit card?

;o)

"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:432ac20d@linux...
> > We will be detailing the all new AMD QUAD CPU
> > computer presently in use @ Lakewood !
> > The absolute highest track count and plugin record
> > in the world !!!
>
>
> .......of course, it doesn't matter at all that I don't really need one of
> these for what I do here, but............................
>
> ;o)
>
> "Morgan" <morganp@ntplx.net> wrote in message news:432ab10f@linux...
> > Just a heads up - this will be New Englands
> > first Big Music Show ( Like NAMM ) in Hartford CT
> > Sept 17 / 18
> >
> > Brian Tankersley will be on hand Saturday at our Booth
> > and doing a workshop Saturday.
> >
> > We will be detailing the all new AMD QUAD CPU
> > computer presently in use @ Lakewood !
> > The absolute highest track count and plugin record
> > in the world !!!
> >
> > If anyone is interested - Please let me know
> >
> > http://www.nemexpo.com
> >
> > Morgan
> > Eastcoast Music Mall
> > morganp@ntplx.net
> > 800-901-2001
> >
>
>With a computer that new, the rest of your stuff would stop working in
revolt! ;-)

David.

DJ wrote:

> Hmmmm.........so I'm pricing out a Tyan 2885 mobo with a pair of dual core
> 2.2G Opterons a Colorgraphics Xentera Quad video card, a pair of 74G 10k RPM
> WD Raptors, a CD/DVD RW, a 500G backup drive and a 250 G system drive, plus
> 16 gigs of PC 3200 ECC DDR, a rack case, a 900W redundant PSU and a new 64
> bit Magma chassis so that I can operate my RME hardware at 64bit and I'm
> well over $12,000.00.
>
> Piece of cake. Now where's that credit card?
>
> ;o)
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> news:432ac20d@linux...
>
>>>We will be detailing the all new AMD QUAD CPU
>>>computer presently in use @ Lakewood !
>>>The absolute highest track count and plugin record
>>>in the world !!!
>>
>>
>>.......of course, it doesn't matter at all that I don't really need one of
>>these for what I do here, but............................
>>
>>;o)
>>
>>"Morgan" <morganp@ntplx.net> wrote in message news:432ab10f@linux...
>>
>>>Just a heads up - this will be New Englands
>>>first Big Music Show ( Like NAMM ) in Hartford CT
>>>Sept 17 / 18
>>>
>>>Brian Tankersley will be on hand Saturday at our Booth
>>>and doing a workshop Saturday.
>>>
>>>We will be detailing the all new AMD QUAD CPU
>>>computer presently in use @ Lakewood !
>>>The absolute highest track count and plugin record
>>>in the world !!!
>>>
>>>If anyone is interested - Please let me know
>>>
>>>http://www.nemexpo.com
>>>
>>>Morgan
>>>Eastcoast Music Mall
>>>morganp@ntplx.net
>>>800-901-2001
>>>
>>
>>
>
>Damn right!!!! In keeping with the Studio Of the Living Dead theme, I
actually need to find a dual core PII.

I did purchase another *dead* item last week. An old Demneter HMP-1. I used
to own one of these but sold it. Then I regretted it but I had to wait to
get another one until Demeter discontinued it in favor of the newly badged
HMX series.

It will be right at home here. I wish they would discontinue the SPL
Transient Designer so I could get another one. This is the coolest thing
since sliced bread, but it's still being manufactured and it would unbalance
the dead/undead situation if I were to get another one.
Still, I may have to get one anyway.

;oP



"EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote in message
news:432afe34@linux...
> With a computer that new, the rest of your stuff would stop working in
> revolt! ;-)
>
> David.
>
> DJ wrote:
>
> > Hmmmm.........so I'm pricing out a Tyan 2885 mobo with a pair of dual
core
> > 2.2G Opterons a Colorgraphics Xentera Quad video card, a pair of 74G 10k
RPM
> > WD Raptors, a CD/DVD RW, a 500G backup drive and a 250 G system drive,
plus
> > 16 gigs of PC 3200 ECC DDR, a rack case, a 900W redundant PSU and a new
64
> > bit Magma chassis so that I can operate my RME hardware at 64bit and I'm
> > well over $12,000.00.
> >
> > Piece of cake. Now where's that credit card?
> >
> > ;o)
> >
> > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> > news:432ac20d@linux...
> >
> >>>We will be detailing the all new AMD QUAD CPU
> >>>computer presently in use @ Lakewood !
> >>>The absolute highest track count and plugin record
> >>>in the world !!!
> >>
> >>
> >>.......of course, it doesn't matter at all that I don't really need one
of
> >>these for what I do here, but............................
> >>
> >>;o)
> >>
> >>"Morgan" <morganp@ntplx.net> wrote in message news:432ab10f@linux...
> >>
> >>>Just a heads up - this will be New Englands
> >>>first Big Music Show ( Like NAMM ) in Hartford CT
> >>>Sept 17 / 18
> >>>
> >>>Brian Tankersley will be on hand Saturday at our Booth
> >>>and doing a workshop Saturday.
> >>>
> >>>We will be detailing the all new AMD QUAD CPU
> >>>computer presently in use @ Lakewood !
> >>>The absolute highest track count and plugin record
> >>>in the world !!!
> >>>
> >>>If anyone is interested - Please let me know
> >>>
> >>>http://www.nemexpo.com
> >>>
> >>>Morgan
> >>>Eastcoast Music Mall
> >>>morganp@ntplx.net
> >>>800-901-2001
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >NOOOOooooooooo!!!!!!!!! Don't even go there!!! Paris midi is no fun at all.


"Richard Faylor" <RichardFaylor@aol.com> wrote in message
news:432ae6d0$1@linux...
>
> I've always recorded song ideas in MIDI using Opcode Vision to save space
> on the hard drive. Now, I'm thinking maybe I could do the same in Paris
and
> let Vision go, but before I make all the settings and the commitment to
learn
> how Paris handles MIDI, can anyone tell me:
> 1) By using Paris for MIDI, will I end up with the same size files that I
> would in Vision (vis a vis hard drive space), or would the Paris/MIDI
files
> be bigger?
> 2) Does Paris' MIDI function anything like Vision in regard to looping,
quantizing,
> editing, etc.
>
> One other question: I'm still using a Beige G3 with Paris, but it's
nearing
> the end of its service life. What was the last, and fastest, Apple tower
> and OS that worked with Paris 3.0 before Apple moved to USB/Firewire and
> OSX (which I assume are incompatible with my Paris MEC and Paris 3.0)?
>
> Thanks.
> Richard Faylor
>I have to second Gene's recommendation of Absynth. Killer cool atmospheric,
morphing, SFX, type stuff, plus some very different sounding and very
useable pads, etc.

Tony


"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:432a6866$1@linux...
>
>
> I'm trying to work out what else to add to my setup. I already have a
> digital
> piano, a decent basic analog synth, and a nice harsh 12 bit sampler. ;o)
> I'm thinking of getting a little rack mount MIDI box to make some more
> interesting
> wierd off-beat sounds. I was thinking of adding a Roland JV-1010, but I'm
> thinking those sounds will be more "standard". I'm keen to have some less
> usual sounds in the arsenal.
>
> Anybody know a nice, preferably cheap, option for some kooky interesting
> synth sounds?
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.What Deej said.

PARIS MIDI support is less than basic and, judging by my experience, not
solidly implemented. Trying to use it productively was an excercise in
futility.

I used a dual 1GHZ G4 which was great for PARIS audio work (but for
MIDI, fuhgetaboutit!). I think maybe dual 1.33 was the last G4 before
booting into OS9 was left behind.

BTW, dual 2.5GHZ G5 with MacOSX is _very_ nice with Logic for audio and
MIDI, with the exception of one pesky bug that sometimes requires
reloading projects periodically when using soft synths.

Cheers,
-Jamie K
http://www.JamieKrutz.com


DJ wrote:
> NOOOOooooooooo!!!!!!!!! Don't even go there!!! Paris midi is no fun at all.
>
>
> "Richard Faylor" <RichardFaylor@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:432ae6d0$1@linux...
>
>>I've always recorded song ideas in MIDI using Opcode Vision to save space
>>on the hard drive. Now, I'm thinking maybe I could do the same in Paris
>
> and
>
>>let Vision go, but before I make all the settings and the commitment to
>
> learn
>
>>how Paris handles MIDI, can anyone tell me:
>>1) By using Paris for MIDI, will I end up with the same size files that I
>>would in Vision (vis a vis hard drive space), or would the Paris/MIDI
>
> files
>
>>be bigger?
>>2) Does Paris' MIDI function anything like Vision in regard to looping,
>
> quantizing,
>
>>editing, etc.
>>
>>One other question: I'm still using a Beige G3 with Paris, but it's
>
> nearing
>
>>the end of its service life. What was the last, and fastest, Apple tower
>>and OS that worked with Paris 3.0 before Apple moved to USB/Firewire and
>>OSX (which I assume are incompatible with my Paris MEC and Paris 3.0)?
>>
>>Thanks.
>>Richard Faylor
>>
>
>
>Thanks!
But i heave Mac not a Pc!

"Rob Arsenault" <info@studiomanitou.com> wrote:
>Just install the DX version of the plug-in as normal and they should show
up
>in the insert section of the mixer in Paris.
>
>
>"ulfiyya" <ulfiyya@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:4329bb8b$1@linux...
>>
>> Hi,
>> Can some one tel me please how can used Waves Plug-ins with Paris Pro?
>> Thanks!!!
>
>In the project "settings" window you have to tell Paris which folder
your VST plugs are contained in (set VST path). Note, all VST plugs
have to be in the *same* folder to be recognized by Paris.

David.

ulfiyya wrote:
> Thanks! But i heave Mac not a Pc!
>
> "Rob Arsenault" <info@studiomanitou.com> wrote:
>
>> Just install the DX version of the plug-in as normal and they
>> should show
>
> up
>
>> in the insert section of the mixer in Paris.
>>
>>
>> "ulfiyya" <ulfiyya@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:4329bb8b$1@linux...
>>
>>> Hi, Can some one tel me please how can used Waves Plug-ins with
>>> Paris Pro? Thanks!!!
>>
>>
>Thanks everyone. Definately some stuff to look at there.

Cheers,
Kim.

"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>I'm trying to work out what else to add to my setup. I already have a digital
>piano, a decent basic analog synth, and a nice harsh 12 bit sampler. ;o)
>I'm thinking of getting a little rack mount MIDI box to make some more interesting
>wierd off-beat sounds. I was thinking of adding a Roland JV-1010, but I'm
>thinking those sounds will be more "standard". I'm keen to have some less
>usual sounds in the arsenal.
>
>Anybody know a nice, preferably cheap, option for some kooky interesting
>synth sounds?
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.Alesis Ion. Next on my purchase list. Huuuuge bang for the buck.

Jimmy

"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:432b497f$1@linux...
>
>
> Thanks everyone. Definately some stuff to look at there.
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >I'm trying to work out what else to add to my setup. I already have a
digital
> >piano, a decent basic analog synth, and a nice harsh 12 bit sampler. ;o)
> >I'm thinking of getting a little rack mount MIDI box to make some more
interesting
> >wierd off-beat sounds. I was thinking of adding a Roland JV-1010, but I'm
> >thinking those sounds will be more "standard". I'm keen to have some less
> >usual sounds in the arsenal.
> >
> >Anybody know a nice, preferably cheap, option for some kooky interesting
> >synth sounds?
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Kim.
>Well I was away all day and came back to these several *great*
suggestions... Thanks all -- really interesting stuff, looking
forward to trying out all these ideas...

For the nuts and bolts kind of stuff you guys are really hard to
beat... Thanks again -- Chas.


On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 20:13:41 -0700, Chas. Duncan
<duncan5199@SPAMLESSsbcglobal.net> wrote:

>Okay group, your thoughts please: Grand piano, with vocal... Best
>ideas for the killer sound... Nobody else in the room 'cept maybe a
>little stand up bass, occasional snare with a brush on it over in the
>corner.(nice sounding room)... How did the white coat lads approach
>this in ye olden days? Preferred mics, placement, signal path, all
>that good stuff. Music is sparse jazzy piano vocal -- need that thing
>to be capital G gorgeous...
>
>Any and all suggestions gratefully accepted -- Chas.
>Speaking of Automation..Is there a way to make the now line in the Automation
window scroll along like the editor window does? In other words the automaion
window shows where you are in the song? This is much mor imporatnt now that
I use UAD track that have been moved forward a bit.



"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>Thanks for the confirmation Rod
>
>don
>
>
>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>news:4329db78$1@linux...
>>
>> Using "delete time" will get rid of the audio and move the audio that's

>> after
>> the deleted portion forward (or back depending on what you call it)so
it
>> butts up to the audio that was before the part you took out (which is
what
>> you want) and the EXACT same thing happens to the automation. It's way

>> cool.
>> In other words, if you want to delete 8 bars from the chours, turn your

>> grid
>> and snap on, set it to bars. Shift click on the time line so the now line
>> snaps to EXACTLY beat 1 of the first bar you want to take out, select

>> delete
>> time, select bars, type in 4, select all tracks and all submixes, and
hit
>> enter. The 4 bars will be gone and your tracks AND automation will be

>> exactly
>> where you want them. This is WAY easier than it sounds once you get your
>> head around it.
>> Rod
>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>>Will the automation edits after the time delete move forward?
>>>
>>>This could be handy if they do
>>>
>>>Don
>>>
>>>
>>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>news:43299788$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> using "delete time", in the editor will
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delete the parts of the song
you
>>
>>>> want
>>>> and also delete the automation. Very slick. Not undo-able, so save as
>> a
>>>> different
>>>> name. As for adding parts, Go with Tom's method. Not too difficult at
>> all.
>>>> I have to do this all the time with corperate stuff I do.
>>>> Rod
>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Don,
>>>>>I would choose your edit point and place a marker t
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;>>>>
>>>>> If not I'm looking at one major cluster f-ck
>>>>>
>>>>> Don=20
>>>>>
>>>>>
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t; =
>>>>>some=20
>>>>> major automation <BR>going on and the automations edits will have
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>> =
>>>>>be moved,=20
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;>>>> cut or added.<BR><BR>Are there any tricks to doing this ie: "snap
to
>> =
>>>>>object=20
>>>>> end" like in the edit <BR>window ?<BR><BR>If not I'm looking at one
>> =
>>>>>major=20
>>>>> cluster f-ck<BR><BR>Don <BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
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>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Don,</FONT></DIV>
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>
> =
>
>>>>>>place a marker=20
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>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Select and cut all objects and =
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>>>>>>worked for me in=20
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>>>
>>>=
>>>
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>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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>>>>>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>>>>>> <DIV>"Don Nafe" <<A =
>>>>>>href=3D"mailto:dnafe@magma.ca">dnafe@magma.ca</A>>=20
>>>>>> wrote in message <A=20
>>>>>> href=3D"news:4329864e$1@linux">news:4329864e$1@linux</A>...</DIV>Hi=20
>>>>>> All<BR><BR>I've got a song that the band wants to edit in a major
>
> way
>
>>>>>=
>>>>>
>>>>>>ie:=20
>>>>>> Cutting out <BR>and Adding sections. The problem is that the song
>
> has
>
>>>>>=
>>>>>
>>>>>>some=20
>>>>>> major automation <BR>going on and the automations edits will have
>
> to
>
>>>=
>>>
>>>>>>be moved,=20
>>>>>> cut or added.<BR><BR>Are there any tricks to doing this ie: "snap
>
> to
>
>>>=
>>>
>>>>>>object=20
>>>>>> end" like in the edit <BR>window ?<BR><BR>If not I'm looking at one
>>>
>>>=
>>>
>>>>>>major=20
>>>>>> cluster f-ck<BR><BR>Don <BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>Paris midi sucks, run from it, don't even think about it, pretend it's
not there and life will be good.
John

Richard Faylor wrote:
> I’ve always recorded song ideas in MIDI using Opcode Vision to save space
> on the hard drive. Now, I’m thinking maybe I could do the same in Paris and
> let Vision go, but before I make all the settings and the commitment to learn
> how Paris handles MIDI, can anyone tell me:
> 1) By using Paris for MIDI, will I end up with the same size files that I
> would in Vision (vis a vi
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Those local guys should stay in business for a long time as=20
long as the PC designers don't dumb down the build so everyone
can do it themselves... =20

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