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A Cubase question for the Paris group [message #83067] Sat, 14 April 2007 08:44 Go to next message
Deej [4] is currently offline  Deej [4]   UNITED STATES
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>Chas. Duncan <duncan5199ATsbcglobalDOTnet@> wrote:
>Maybe a more pertinent piece of contemporary fiction would be "The
>Road" by Cormac MacCarthy -- there's a cheerful view of the
>post-apocalyptic future for ya...

That guy used to live here until he got pretty well-known in the
past few years, and got sick of people driving by his house &
staring in & peeking over his fence, etc, trying to catch a
glimpse of the famous guy lol I think he retreated to Santa
Fe now.

NeilActually Don, there is a smear campaign going the other way, financed by
special interest money (largely Exxon). Meanwhile the facts and
evidence are with the scientific consensus (which is why it is a
scientific consensus).
Re: A Cubase question for the Paris group [message #83068 is a reply to message #83067] Sat, 14 April 2007 09:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
neil[1] is currently offline  neil[1]
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You should really read the science.

Unless you have a predisposition to either distrust science or believe
things are fine, in which case you can ally yourself with a very few
dissenting scientists (there are always a few in the minority on any
subject), a cadre of special interest PR folks working diligently to
extend Exxon profits, truth be damned, and a novelist.

But you'll be hard pressed to find solid peer-reviewed science to back
them up. It's largely speculative, even desperate rationalizations
amplified by special interest money that use repetition and talk radio
to sound credible but are not. It's a house of cards built on
unpublished and unsupported theories, roundly debunked by mainstream
science based on facts on the ground and in the atmosphere.

A better path is to acknowledge the trumped up "controversy" for what it
is, but then listen to what scientists in multiple fields have actually
published in peer-reviewed journals. See how the evidence lines up. And
draw your conclusions from there.

If you don't mind reading a matter-of-fact overview, I recommend the
Charles Keller paper and its update linked here as a non-hyped way to start:

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Re: A Cubase question for the Paris group [message #83069 is a reply to message #83068] Sat, 14 April 2007 09:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deej [4] is currently offline  Deej [4]   UNITED STATES
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tp://www.thescientificworld.com/SCIENTIFICWORLDJOURNAL/mai n/Home.asp

As for the latest Mars argument, do some research on that one and you'll
find it's another red herring. An apples/oranges comparison that doesn't
wash.

Finally, if the name Gore makes you see red, then simply ignore Al. This
is not a partisan issue and it's not about any one guy. If you can't
listen to a Democrat on the subject, listen to the many Republicans who
have read the science and are getting to work on the problem. There's a
long, long list of Republican scientists, business leaders and elected
officials who recognize the problem and are getting to work on it.

Which leads us back to the topic of this thread: the new conservative
French President Nicolas Sarkozy said in his acceptance speech that he
will make global warming a top priority. For all we know he may hate Al
as much as you do. But he recognizes the problem of global warming and
is making it a priority.

Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com


DC wrote:
> Nope. That is the smear campaign, not the facts. There is some
> dispute, many challenges remain and have been strengthened since the
> movie.
>
> Besides, the prejudice in what you said is clear. How do you know that
> someone who questions the current orthodoxy is an anti-environmentalist?
>
> http://www.independent.org/newsroom/article.asp?id=1945
>
> The real scary thing for the Gore-ites is the ongoing research into
> climate change on Mars... It seems to be a parallel to our own. If that
> is the case, humans are not the cause.
>
> DC
>
>
>
> "Sarah" <

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Re: A Cubase question for the Paris group [message #83072 is a reply to message #83067] Sat, 14 April 2007 13:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Don Nafe is currently offline  Don Nafe   UNITED STATES
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>>>>> Jamie and the rest of you Parisites, here's another view regarding
>the
>>>>>> global warming polemic, ideology, religion and orthodoxy. These scientists
>>>>>> were involved with the IPCC's report, but dissociated themselves with
>>>>the
>>>>>> same report when blatant omissions and mistruths were put forth by
>the
>>>>
>>>>>> IPCC.
>>>>>> They scientifically disprove that CO2 is the cause for temperature
>change.
>>>>>> Before you all jump out of your skin and shout, "2500 top scientists
>>>are
>>>>
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> the IPCC panel and therefore it can't be wrong", you really should
>watch
>>>>>> this with an open mind. You will, if you have an shred of rational,
>>
>>>>>> logical
>>>>>> reasoning, question the present hysteria over the global warming debate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.jonhs.net/freemovies/great_global_warming_swindle .htm
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just keeping it real,
>>>>>> Rich
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:463f4b03$1@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey Neil, Sarkozy is in the news right now and his comment caught
>my
>>>>>>> eye. I think his perspective on global warming is worth sharing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
Re: A Cubase question for the Paris group [message #83073 is a reply to message #83067] Sat, 14 April 2007 14:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Ludwig is currently offline  Chris Ludwig   UNITED STATES
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>>>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Neil wrote:
>>>>>>> > Whaddya have a search engine portal permanently set to the
>>>>>>> > term "global warming" or something?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> >> Sarkozy on global warming:
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> "a great nation like the United States has the duty not to oppose
>>>>the
>>>>>>> >> fight against global warming, but to lead that battle, because
>what
>>>>is
>>>>>>> >> at stake is the destiny of mankind."
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Cheers,
>>>>>>> >> -Jamie
>>>>>>> >> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Rich Lamanna wrote:
>>>>>>> >>> France Elects a Thatcherite President
>>>>>>> >>> Kenneth R. Timmerman
>>>>>>> >>> Monday, May 7, 2007
>>>>>>> >>> Newsmax.com
>>>>&g
Re: A Cubase question for the Paris group [message #83077 is a reply to message #83072] Sat, 14 April 2007 16:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: A Cubase question for the Paris group [message #83104 is a reply to message #83069] Sun, 15 April 2007 07:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bill L is currently offline  Bill L   UNITED STATES
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terate adolescent.
> >>
> >>
> >> (Gary)
> >>
> >> Yeah? Well, my writing partner is a self-centered tedious neurotic
> >> whose attempts at writing are the literary equivalent of Valium. "Oh,
> >> shall I have chamomile tea? Or shall I have some other sort of F-- KING
TEA???
> >> Oh no, what am I to do? I'm such an air headed bimbo who reads
> >> too many Danielle Steele novels!"
> >>
> >>
> >> (Rebecca)
> >>
> >> As*h@le.
> >>
> >>
> >> (Gary)
> >>
> >> B*tch!
> >>
> >>
> >> (Rebecca)
> >>
> >> F**K YOU - YOU NEANDERTHAL!!
> >>
> >>
> >> (Gary)
> >>
> >> In your dreams, Ho. Go drink some tea.
> >>
> >>
> >> (TEACHER)
> >>
> >> A+ - I really liked this one
> >>
> >>
> >>
>Jesus, if I don't scare the computer into crashing no one will.

Rich

"Neil" <IUOIU@OI.com> wrote in message news:4642659d$1@linux...
>
> Ummm.... I'll think about it.
>
> lol
>
>
> Paul Braun <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:
> >On Tue, 8 May 2007 23:37:42 -0500, "Rich Lamanna"
> ><richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:
> >
> >>Paul where can we see the "Gallery"?
> >>
> >>Rich
> >
> >I'll get it uploaded this weekend, and post the url
> >
> >Neil,
Re: A Cubase question for the Paris group [message #83105 is a reply to message #83077] Sun, 15 April 2007 07:36 Go to previous message
Bill L is currently offline  Bill L   UNITED STATES
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can you just use a digital camera and take a self-portrait in
> >the mirror or sumthin'??
> >
> >pab
>My comment was totally tung in cheek, but true. With 12 Macs 13 years on
the internet, no viruses! I'd say, that is reasonably secure. I know many
Mac users that have had a similar experience. Mac users don't have to worry
about going on the internet with their audio systems. I also know many PC
users that have had a completely different experience from Mac users.

I believe there are possible benefits in having a Paris system on a PC over
a Mac, if the latest VST plugins are important to you.

And as always, Aaron's advice was good advice!

James

"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>Security by obscurity, James, which is barely security at all.
>
>TCB
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>I have a few of the 260's at my work. Good box - better than the Dimension
>>
>>>series - however with either of them you will probably have trouble feeding
>>
>>>power hungry EDS cards. 1 should fly, 2 will be questionable and 3 probably
>>
>>>won't run IME. Call dell to see if you can get a higher ou
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