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| Re: This is how FU'ed the US healthcare system is [message #86784 is a reply to message #86757] |
Sat, 16 June 2007 22:01   |
LaMont
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a href="mailto:46972376@linux" target="_blank">46972376@linux</A>...</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This is really a novice oriented =
>question but . .=20
> .</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It doesn't matter which card is the =
>"A"=20
> card</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>in your system as far as Paris' ID =
>orientation=20
> right?</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Yes, it does, and the orientation of
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>the slots=20
> you are using in combination with the orientation of the ribbon=20
> cables will determine this. Have you changed them around during =
>your=20
> reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Start with a new SCSI cable and a =
>single EDS=20
> card. Test each MEC. Once you know if there is a problem there, add a
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>new SCSI=20
> cable and another card. Put different modules in the MECs so you can =
>see which=20
> one is on card A, B, C at all times. this will give you the info =
>as to=20
> how the cards are initializing and which card is card A, B, C as you =
>start=20
> adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that were working
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> perfectly when I took my system off line. I can't imagine it being a =
>problem.=20
> Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue though. Your system =
>will not=20
> function with bad SCSI =
>cables.</FONT></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
>
>Tom....you need to hide your default project in a folder, or rename it. Make
Paris create it's own when it boots, based on the hardware it see's
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| Re: This is how FU'ed the US healthcare system is [message #86806 is a reply to message #86792] |
Sun, 17 June 2007 09:55 |
Jamie K
Messages: 1115
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one for each EDS card. I will continue to do that unless you
think I should leave 5 Scherzos for one EDS card.
Tom
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message =
news:4697822f$1@linux...
Tom....you need to hide your default project in a folder, or rename =
it. Make
Paris create it's own when it boots, based on the hardware it see's. =
This
is only during your trouble shooting phase. Once you get everything =
ironed
out, you can put the default ppj back. I ran into this problem when I =
was
trouble shooting a while back.
Rod
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Well here's what is happening.
>
>I looked very closely at the pins on the scsi cables and noticed
>a slightly bent one or two on almost half of them (5). I think it's
>from being careless about pushing them in. I straightened them
>perfectly and yet still no luck with booting Paris. "No interface =
=3D
>attached
>to the Master Card" is the message. I'm only using one mec to test.
>I also tried the 442. Once in a while the Magma wouldn't turn on =
with =3D
>the
>442 attached. I think that is because of the bent pins. That's good =
of
>the Magma. I've tried all five cards, removed the A card and swapped =
it
=3D
>
>with another still no luck.=3D20
>
>I'm lost in this quagmire now. I'm not even pissed about the busted =
mec
>at this point. I want an answer to what is going on. The default =
=3D
>project=3D20
>is looking for external word clock so that's my only choice although =
I
>have tried it with no Lucid attached with the same results.
>
>I think I'll call Edmund.
> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.r.com> wrote in message =3D
>news:469708c8$1@linux...
>
> That kinda totally sucks. Sorry.
> rod
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >Hey Rod,
> >Ya I've been swapping things out to no end just to be sure.
> >I even had trouble getting it going with internal clock which =
ruled
> >out the Lucid in my mind.
> >
> >The latest news is I couldn't get it to boot at all with other =
Mecs
> >being the master. In the process I smoked the original Mec A
> >because the SCSI cable was half in at start up. I heard a crack
> >and then the smell of burning chips. It still powers up but it's =
out
> >of the picture now. Loaded with modules too.
> >
> >Now nothing gets it going except maybe the lowly 442. I'll try
> >that next. I have a local engineer coming over to see what=3D3D20
> >Paris can do. He's very well respected in these parts.
> >To bad I'm down for the count it seems.
> >Ass
> >
> > "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message =3D3D
> >news:4696c93b$1@linux...
> >
> > Tom, have you done anything to rule out the possibility that it =
may
=3D
>be
> =3D3D
> >a funky
> > MEC word clock connection, or perhaps the Lucid clock is flakey. =
Or
=3D
>=3D3D
> >even
> > a bad mogami wordclock cable (I know that's a longshot, but =3D
>anything's
> =3D3D
> >possible)
> > Just a thought.
> > Rod
> > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >Deej,
> > >Ya, I've
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| Re: This is how FU'ed the US healthcare system is [message #86810 is a reply to message #86804] |
Sun, 17 June 2007 10:35 |
Jamie K
Messages: 1115
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=3D
><<A=3D20
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>href=3D3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A=
>&g=3D
>t;=3D20
> wrote in message =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>news:4696c93b$1@linux...<BR>><BR>> Tom,=3D20
> have you done anything to rule out the possibility that it may=3D20
> be<BR>=3D3D<BR>>a funky<BR>> MEC word clock connection, or =3D
>perhaps the=3D20
> Lucid clock is flakey. Or =3D3D<BR>>even<BR>> a bad mogami =3D
>wordclock=3D20
> cable (I know that's a longshot, but=3D20
> anything's<BR>=3D3D<BR>>possible)<BR>> Just a =3D
>thought.<BR>> =3D20
> Rod<BR>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20
> wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> =3D20
> >Deej,<BR>> >Ya, I've uninstalled, reinstalled Paris =3D
>about five=3D20
> times total in the<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >last day and =3D
>a=3D20
> half.<BR>> >I am close to starting from scratch and =3D
>possibly doing=3D20
> the antipace =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >thing.<BR>> =3D
>>I'm=3D20
> getting pretty good at it. I have Mec 1 loaded with cards=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>attached<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>> >to what has=3D20
> always<BR>> >been Card A for three years. Can that change? =3D
>Paris=3D20
> works fine with =3D3D<BR>>just<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
>>that=3D20
> one. I'll try=3D3D3D20<BR>> >all the others in that =3D
>position=3D20
> just to see though.<BR>> ><BR>> >I am close to =3D
>
> starting from scratch and possibly doing the antipace=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >thing. How could that=3D20
> be=3D3D3D20<BR>> >the evil that won't allow hardware to show =3D
>
> up?<BR>> >Thanks,<BR>> >Tom<BR>> =3D
>> =3D20
> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message=3D20
> =3D3D3D<BR>> >news:4696229c$1@linux...<BR>> =3D
>> Have=3D20
> you tested each MEC individually? I'd start there. Did you =3D
>=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> >iuninstall/reinstall Paris yet?<BR>> =3D
>> "Tom=3D20
> Bruhl" <<A =3D
>href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20
> wrote in message =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
>>news:4695d5bf@linux...<BR>> =3D20
> > Sorry to shout but this is driving me=3D20
> insane.<BR>> ><BR>> > I am =3D
>working=3D20
> with a cloned drive that used to work with<BR>> =3D20
> > 2 Mecs and WC. Now no matter what I do, I =3D
>can=3D20
> not<BR>> > get a second Mec to show up =3D
>and=3D20
> receive clock. It<BR>> > doesn't =3D
>matter if=3D20
> it's at the end of the line or anywhere<BR>> =3D
>> =3D20
> else. It doesn't matter if it's internally clocked or=3D20
> externally<BR>> > clocked. I've =3D
>changed=3D20
> Mecs, clock cables, SCSI cables<BR>> > =3D
>and no=3D20
> changes. I've even tried a reinstall of Paris.<BR>> =3D20
> > Same deal. =3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>><BR>> =3D20
> > I must be doing something totally wrong for =3D
>this to=3D20
> continue.<BR>> > The only thing else I =3D
>can think
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| Re: This is how FU'ed the US healthcare system is [message #86829 is a reply to message #86817] |
Sun, 17 June 2007 12:50 |
LaMont
Messages: 828
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t;>arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=20
=3D<BR>>wrote =3D3D<BR>> >in =
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=3D3D3D<BR>>news:4695d5bf@linux...<BR>> Sorry to=20
=3D3D<BR>> >shout but=3D3D20<BR>> > this =
is driving=20
me insane.<BR>><BR>> I am =3D3D<BR>> =
>working=20
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>and=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> WC. Now no matter what I do, I can not<BR>>=20
=3D3D<BR>> >get a=3D3D20<BR>> > second =
Mec to show=20
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the line=20
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internally=20
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>no=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> changes. I've even tried a reinstall of =3D3D<BR>> =
>Paris.<BR>> =3D3D20<BR>> > Same deal.=20
=3D3D3D20<BR>><BR>> ; I must be doing =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
>something=3D3D20<BR>> > totally wrong for this =
to=20
continue.<BR>> The only =3D3D<BR>> =20
>thing=3D3D20<BR>> > else I can think to try is =
swapping=20
the =3D3D<BR>> >last=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
EDS=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> card with another or go down to four. =
Maybe=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> it's<BR>> card 5? Or, triple check the =
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>connectors=3D3D20<BR>> > between all the=20
cards<BR>> =3D3D20<BR>> > =20
again.<BR>><BR>> All EDS cards are up and =
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>running and=3D3D20<BR>> > play audio with Paris=20
effects.<BR>> All 5 cards =3D3D<BR>> >share=20
3=3D3D20<BR>> > IRQs with nothing =
else.<BR>> What=20
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| Re: This is how FU'ed the US healthcare system is [message #86884 is a reply to message #86831] |
Mon, 18 June 2007 21:27 |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
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> > size=3D3D3D2>Ya I've been swapping things out to =
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> > size=3D3D3D2>out the Lucid in my=3D20
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> > size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
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> > size=3D3D3D2>The latest news is I couldn't get it =3D
> >to<BR>=3D3D<BR>>boot at=3D20
> > all=3D3D20<BR>>with other=3D20
> > Mecs</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>being the master. In the process =3D3D<BR>>I =
>smoked=3D20
> > the=3D3D20<BR>>original Mec=3D20
> > A</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>because the SCSI cable was half in at =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>start=3D3D20<BR>>up.=3D20
> > I heard a crack</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>and then the smell of burning =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>chips. It=3D20
> > still=3D3D20<BR>>powers up but it's=3D20
> > out</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =3D
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> > size=3D3D3D2>of the picture now. Loaded with=3D20
> > =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>modules=3D3D20<BR>>too.</FONT></DIV><BR>><D=3D
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> ></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Now nothing gets it going except=3D20
> > maybe<BR>=3D3D<BR>>the lowly=3D3D20<BR>>442. I'll=3D20
> > try</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =3D
> >
> > size=3D3D3D2>that next. I have a local =3D3D<BR>>engineer =3D
> >coming=3D3D20<BR>>over=3D20
> > to see what </FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>Paris can do. He's very well =3D3D<BR>>respected =3D
> >in=3D3D20<BR>>these=3D20
> > parts.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>To bad I'm down for the count=3D20
> > =3D
> >it=3D3D20<BR>>seems.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D
> >=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>Ass</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D20
> > =3D
> ></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20<BR>>style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: =3D
> >0px;=3D20
> > PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000
=
>=3D
> >2px solid;=3D20
> > MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"Rod Lincoln"=3D20
> > <<A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D'mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A=
>>&a=3D
> =
>>mp;g'>mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</=3D
> >A>&g</A>=3D3D<BR>>t;=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > wrote in message <A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D'news:4696c93b$1@linux">news:4696c93b$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>T=
>om'=3D
> >>news:4696c93b$1@linux">news:4696c93b$1@linux</A>...</DIV>=3D
> ><BR>Tom</A>,=3D3D<BR>>=3D20
> > have=3D3D20<BR>> you done anything to rule out the possibility =3D
> >that it=3D20
> > may be a =3D3D<BR>>funky<BR>MEC=3D3D20<BR>> word clock =3D
> >connection,=3D20
> > or perhaps the Lucid clock is flakey. Or =3D3D<BR>>even<BR>a=3D20
> > bad=3D3D20<BR>> mogami wordclock cable (I know that's a =3D
> >longshot, but=3D20
> > anything's=3D3D20<BR>> possible)<BR>Just a=3D20
> > thought.<BR>Rod<BR>"Tom Bruhl" =3D
> ><<A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D3D20'>m=
>ailto=3D
> >:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D3D20</A><BR>&g=3D
> >t; =3D20
> > wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Deej,<BR>>Ya, =3D
> >I've=3D20
> > uninstalled, =3D3D<BR>>reinstalled=3D3D20<BR>> Paris about =3D
> >five times=3D20
> > total in the =3D3D3D<BR>>last day and a =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>half.<BR>>I=3D20
> > am=3D3D20<BR>> close to starting from scratch and possibly =3D
> >doing the=3D20
> > antipace=3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>>thing.<BR>>I'm =3D
> >getting=3D20
> > pretty good at it. I have =3D3D<BR>>Mec 1=3D3D20<BR>> loaded =3D
> >with cards=3D20
> > attached<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>to what has=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>always<BR>>been Card A=3D3D20<BR>> for =3D
> >three years. Can=3D20
> > that change? Paris works fine with=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>just<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>that=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >one. I'll=3D20
> > try=3D3D3D20<BR>>all the others in that position just =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>to=3D20
> > see=3D3D20<BR>> though.<BR>><BR>>I am close =3D
> >to starting=3D20
> > from scratch and =3D3D<BR>>possibly doing=3D3D20<BR>> the =3D
> >antipace=3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>thing. How could that be=3D3D3D20<BR>>the =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>evil=3D20
> > that=3D3D20<BR>> won't allow hardware to show=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>up?<BR>>Thanks,<BR>>Tom<BR>>=3D20
> > "DJ"=3D3D20<BR>> <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote =3D
> >in=3D20
> > message=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>news:4696229c$1@linux...<BR>> Have you =3D
> >tested each=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>MEC=3D3D20<BR>> individually? I'd start there. Did =3D
> >you=3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>iuninstall/reinstall =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>Paris=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > yet?<BR>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arp=
>egi=3D
> >o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=3D20
> > wrote =3D3D<BR>>in message=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>news:4695d5bf@linux...<BR>> Sorry to =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>shout=3D20
> > but=3D3D20<BR>> this is driving me =3D
> >insane.<BR>><BR>> I=3D20
> > am =3D3D<BR>>working with=3D3D20<BR>> a cloned drive that used =3D
> >to work=3D20
> > with<BR>> 2 Mecs =3D3D<BR>>and=3D3D20<BR>> WC. Now no =3D
> >matter what=3D20
> > I do, I can not<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>get a=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >second Mec to=3D20
> > show up and receive clock. =3D3D<BR>>It<BR>> =3D
> >=3D3D20<BR>> doesn't=3D20
> > matter if it's at the end of the line or=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > anywhere<BR>> else. It doesn't matter if=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>it's=3D3D20<BR>> internally clocked or =3D
> >externally<BR>>=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>clocked. I've=3D3D20<BR>> changed Mecs, clock =3D
> >cables, SCSI=3D20
> > cables<BR>> and =3D3D<BR>>no=3D3D20<BR>> changes. =3D
> >I've even tried=3D20
> > a reinstall of =3D3D<BR>>Paris.<BR>> =3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >Same deal.=3D20
> > =3D3D3D20<BR>><BR>> I must be doing=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>something=3D3D20<BR>> totally wrong for this to=3D20
> > continue.<BR>> The only =3D3D<BR>>thing=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >else I can=3D20
> > think to try is swapping the =3D3D<BR>>last=3D3D3D20<BR>>=3D20
> > EDS=3D3D20<BR>> card with another or go down to four.=3D20
> > Maybe=3D3D20<BR>> it's<BR>> card 5? Or, triple check =3D
> >the=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>connectors=3D3D20<BR>> between all the =3D
> >cards<BR>>=3D20
> > =3D3D20<BR>> again.<BR>><BR>> All EDS cards =3D
> >are up and=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>running and=3D3D20<BR>> play audio with Paris=3D20
> > effects.<BR>> All 5 cards =3D3D<BR>>share =3D
> >3=3D3D20<BR>> IRQs with=3D20
> > nothing else.<BR>> What else is=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >there?<BR>>=3D20
> > Sadly,<BR>> =3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > Tom<BR>><BR>><BR>> I choose Polesoft=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>Lockspam to=3D3D20<BR>> fight spam, and =3D
> >you?<BR>>=3D20
> > <A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
>fer=3D
> =
>>'>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer</A=3D=
>
> >>=3D3D<BR>>.html</A>=3D20
> > =3D3D20<BR>> <BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML =3D
> >PUBLIC=3D20
> > "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D
> >Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>>=3D
> ><META=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > http-equiv=3D3D3D3DContent-Type =3D
> >content=3D3D3D3D"text/html;=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>charset=3D3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =3D
> >
> > =3D3D<BR>>content=3D3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >6.00.2800.1400"=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>name=3D3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE&=3D
> >gt;<BR>></HEA=3D3D<BR>>D><BR>><BODY=3D3D20<BR>&=3D
> >gt; =3D20
> > bgColor=3D3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>size=3D3D3D3D2>Deej,</FONT></DIV><BR>>&l=3D
> >t;DIV><FONT=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Ya, I've uninstalled,=3D20
> > reinstalled=3D3D20<BR>> Paris<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>about =3D
> >
> > five=3D3D3D20<BR>>times total in the last day =3D3D<BR>>and=3D20
> > a=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > half.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D3D2>I am =3D
> >close to starting=3D20
> > from scratch=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > and<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>possibly=3D3D3D20<BR>>doing the =3D
> >
> > antipace=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > thing.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D3D2>I'm =3D
> >getting pretty good=3D20
> > at it. I =3D3D3D<BR>>have Mec=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >1=3D3D3D20<BR>>loaded=3D20
> > with cards attached to what has=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > always</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D3D2>been =3D
> >Card A for three=3D20
> > years. Can =3D3D3D<BR>>that=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > change?=3D3D3D20<BR>>Paris works fine with just that one. I'll=3D20
> > try=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > </FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D3D2>all the others in =3D
> >that=3D20
> > </FONT><FONT=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D3D20<BR>>size=3D3D3D3D2 >p=3D
> >osition just=3D20
> > to =3D3D<BR>>see=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > though.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D20
> > </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D3D2>I am =3D
> >close to starting=3D20
> > from scratch=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > and<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>possibly=3D3D3D20<BR>>doing the =3D
> >antipace=3D20
> > thing. How =3D3D<BR>>could that be=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > </FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D3D2>the evil that =3D
> >won't allow=3D20
> > hardware to=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>show=3D3D3D20<BR>>up?</FONT>&l=3D
> >t;/DIV><BR>><DIV&g=3D3D<BR>>t;<FONT=3D3D20<BR>>&n=3D
> >bsp;=3D20
> > face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>size=3D3D3D3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV><BR>>=3D
> ><DIV><FONT=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>size=3D3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>><=3D
> >BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > dir=3D3D3D3Dltr=3D3D3D20<BR>>style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; =3D
> >PADDING-LEFT:=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>5px;=3D3D20<BR>> MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT:=3D20
> > #000000 2px solid; =3D3D<BR>>MARGIN-RIGHT:=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>_=3D3D20<BR>> net> wrote in message <A=3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>><BR>> href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >
> > =3D
> =
>>=3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D'news:4696229c$1@linux">news:4696229c$1@linux</=3D
> >A>...</DIV'>news:46=3D3D<BR>>96229c$1@linux">news:4696229c$1=3D
> >@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>=3D3D<BR>>>=3D20
> > =3D3D20<BR>> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =3D
> >size=3D3D3D3D2>Have you=3D20
> > tested each =3D3D<BR>>MEC=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>individually? I'd=3D20
> > start=3D3D3D20<BR>> there. Did you=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >iuninstall/reinstall=3D20
> > Paris yet?</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>><BR>> =3D20
> > <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3D3D3Dltr=3D3D3D20<BR>>=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px;=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >PADDING-LEFT: 5px;=3D20
> > MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>2px=3D20
> > solid;=3D3D20<BR>> MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> =3D
> ><DIV>"Tom=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>Bruhl"=3D3D20<BR>> <<A=3D3D3D20<BR>>=3D20
> > href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D
> =
>>=3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net&l=3D=
>
> >t;/A'>mailto:arpegi=3D3D<BR>>o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net<=3D
> >;/A</A>>>=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>wrote in=3D3D3D20<BR>> message =3D
> ><A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D'news:4695d5bf@linux">news:4695d5bf@linux</A>=3D
> >;...</DIV'>news:4695d5=3D3D<BR>>bf@linux">news:4695d5bf@linux&l=3D
> >t;/A>...</DIV</A>><BR>>&nbs=3D3D<BR>>p;=3D20
> > =3D3D20<BR>> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =3D
> >size=3D3D3D3D2>Sorry to=3D20
> > shout but =3D3D<BR>>this is=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > driving<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>me=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > insane.</FONT></DIV><BR>>=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> =3D3D<BR>></DIV><BR>>=3D20
> > =3D3D20<BR>> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =3D
> >size=3D3D3D3D2>I am=3D20
> > working with a =3D3D<BR>>cloned drive=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>that=3D20
> > used to=3D3D3D20<BR>> work=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > with</FONT></DIV><BR>>=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3D3DArial =3D
> >size=3D3D3D3D2>2=3D20
> > Mecs and WC. </FONT><FONT=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>size=3D3D3D3D2>Now=3D20
> > no matter=3D3D20<BR>> what I do, I can=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>not</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
> >=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>get a second Mec =3D
> >to=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>show up and=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>receive=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >clock.=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > It</FONT></DIV><BR>>=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2>doesn't matter if it's at the end =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>of=3D20
> > the=3D3D20<BR>> line=3D3D3D20<BR>> or=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >
> > anywhere</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>else. It doesn't=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>matter if=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>it's=3D3D3D20<BR>>=3D20
> > internally clocked or=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > externally</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>clocked. I've =3D
> >changed=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>Mecs,=3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>>clock=3D20
> > cables,=3D3D3D20<BR>> SCSI=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > cables</FONT></DIV><BR>>=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3D3DArial =3D
> >size=3D3D3D3D2>and=3D20
> > no changes. I've even =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>tried=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > a=3D3D3D20<BR>> reinstall of=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > Paris.</FONT></DIV><BR>>=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2>Same deal.=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > </FONT></DIV><BR>>=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> =3D3D<BR>></DIV><BR>>=3D20
> > =3D3D20<BR>> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =3D
> >size=3D3D3D3D2>I must be=3D20
> > doing =3D3D<BR>>something totally=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>wrong=3D20
> > for=3D3D3D20<BR>> this to=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > continue.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>The only thing =3D
> >else I=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>can think=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >to<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>try=3D20
> > is=3D3D3D20<BR>> swapping the =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>last=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > </FONT></DIV><BR>>=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3D3DArial =3D
> >size=3D3D3D3D2>EDS=3D20
> > card with another or go down=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>to<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>four.=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D3D3D20<BR>> Maybe=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > it's</FONT></DIV><BR>>=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2>card 5? Or, triple check the=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>connectors=3D3D3D20<BR>> between all=3D20
> > the=3D3D20<BR>> cards</FONT></DIV><BR>>=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>size=3D3D3D3D2>again.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
> >
> > =3D3D20<BR>> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> ></DIV><BR>>=3D20
> > <DIV><FONT =3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >size=3D3D3D3D2>All=3D20
> > EDS cards are up and running =3D3D3D<BR>>and =3D
> >play=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > audio=3D3D3D20<BR>> with Paris=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20YEAH NAPPY! STAY STRONG, LIVE LONG!
Chuck
"Robert" <mani1147AThotmaildotcom> wrote:
>Good to hear man, take care.
>
>"Nappy" <mgrant62@googlemail.com> wrote in message news:46967969$1@linux...
>>
>> Thanks for all the prayers. I got out of the hospital wed with flying
>colors.
>> I ve got a ton of meds,but everything is going to be alright. I'll post
a
>> follow-up
>> in a few days. Thanks to all again.
>>
>> respect
>> Nappy
>
>Bill,
Yes. For me, the MEC s/pdif out to the DAC made the biggest improvement
(more noticable sound clarity) even with the Paris clock.
I still use Paris's 8-in's A/D converters in the MEC when recording.
Wayne
"Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message news:46976c86@linux...
> So just to be sure I understand, the biggest improvement was just putting
> the better converters into the chain, with the Paris clock?
>
> Wayne Carson wrote:
>> Bill,
>>
>> I did that, . . . sort of. The DAC has no clock in's or outs. I did run
>> Paris on internal clock and took the digital s/pdif out of the MEC to the
>> DAC and to the monitors and this is where I heard the biggest
>> improvement.
>>
>> Then I listened to my monitors without the DAC (my previous setup) and
>> clocked it with the Big Ben. It sounded more stable if you can
>> understand what I mean and did clean up the sound also, but not as
>> dramatic or noticable as with the DAC test.
>>
>> Everything I listened to was recorded on Paris internal so my initial
>> recordings used Paris's A/D and internal clock. I think I can hear a
>> little flutter in my recordings which I didn't hear before. I believe DJ
>> is right. Once I record with the Big Ben I'll probably truely hear the
>> clarity and separation.
>>
>> Wayne
>>
>>
>>
>> "Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message news:46959638@linux...
>>> Wayne, I'm curious how much difference you would hear if you clocked
>>> Paris to the DAC1 alone? Have you listened to that?
>>>
>>> Wayne Carson wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> It's been a week since I hooked up the benchmark and clock to my simple
>>>> 1-MEC w/two 8-in, 2-EDS, 1-C16 system. I used 3' apogee cables on both
>>>> and one 75 ohm term on the MEC s/pdif out. I did not use a bnc "T".
>>>>
>>>> It made a wonderful difference. I set the BB clock to internal at 44.1k
>>>> and used the bnc out to the MEC. I set Paris to word clock. That's
>>>> it. It locks at 44.1. I think I can even hear jitter on previously
>>>> recorded stuff, specifically on vocals when solo'ed, but then again it
>>>> could be the coffee!
>>>>
>>>> I've run 8 completely different song mixes that I am working on and it
>>>> is so much easier to find and correct things and so far appears to
>>>> translate very similar to my simple home stereo system, bedroom Bose/CD
>>>> wave radio and '04 Honda Accord car sound system. And that's what it's
>>>> all about for me. This should make for a whole lot less trial and
>>>> error mixing. My '06 Tundra truck sound system is not even close, but
>>>> that's another issue.
>>>>
>>>> In my studio, I individually A/B'd the clock and the DAC against the
>>>> Paris L/R monitor out and internal clock. In each case the clock
>>>> and/or the DAC cleaned up the low/mid mushiness, allowed the kick to be
>>>> heard with the bass and not a boom but a punch, spaced out the depth,
>>>> ambiance and stereo field and overall gave clarity to the mix. Paris
>>>> EDS efx's are more distinguishable now.
>>>>
>>>> Previously I used the Paris L/R monitor out to my 1604vlz (ch 15-16)
>>>> trim off, eq flat, level at unity and the main's out to my Alesis
>>>> RA-100 (yah, I know it's not so good, but I thought I was getting a
>>>> decent flat ref amp when I bought it back in '96.) to yama's NS-10's
>>>> and a sub under my desk for fill and to curl my toes.
>>>>
>>>> I was very suprised to find out how bad the Mackie colored the sound.
>>>> A very noticable harshness around 1-2khz and possibly higher, lack of
>>>> warmth between 100-300hz and just an overall sound like crowded,
>>>> cramped, busy and flat tonality. Tweaking the 3 eq's helps but only
>>>> removed about half the problem. This is compared to the MEC digita
>>>> s/pdif out to the DAC1 and it's XLR outs to the RA-100 to the NS-10s.
>>>> This sound was warm and round, almost surround. It put a smile on my
>>>> face.
>>>>
>>>> I'm a happy camper. Special thanks to Dave, Kim, DJ, Miguel, Jeff and
>>>> Neil. I guess my next purchase will be an appropriate reference pwr
>>>> amp.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Wayne
>>>> Paris since '97
>>Nappy
Been following this on the sidelines all along. GREAT to hear you got thru
this and are doing well.
Peace my friend
Lou
Guarino
"Nappy" <mgrant62@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>Thanks for all the prayers. I got out of the hospital wed with flying colors.
>I ve got a ton of meds,but everything is going to be alright. I'll post
a
>follow-up
>in a few days. Thanks to all again.
>
>respect
>NappyYes!
Chas
On 13 Jul 2007 04:56:41 +1000, "Nappy" <mgrant62@googlemail.com>
wrote:
>
>Thanks for all the prayers. I got out of the hospital wed with flying colors.
>I ve got a ton of meds,but everything is going to be alright. I'll post a
>follow-up
>in a few days. Thanks to all again.
>
>respect
>NappyThis is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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Hey Rod,
Hiding the default project didn't help anything. I've never
had 2.?? installed on this comp so I think I'm safe there regarding
drivers.
I am only able to intermitantly get the 442 working as the master.
I think that's do to the scsi cable issue. I need four new ones.
I am unable to get more than one EDS card working WITH the 442.
Not sure why. The ribbons are all wired correctly.
I'm off to a hellish gigging weekend. No more time for hell in Paris.
Thanks for all your input,
Tom
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message =
news:4697ab8a@linux...
Did you try hiding the default ppj to see if it would boot up with a =
MEC when
creating a new session?=20
Rod
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Guys,
>I'm all set with the cables and the which card is A bit.
>Rod you were right about what I was asking.
>
>In any event I scaled down to one EDS (Pretty sure that's card A =3D
>right?!!!)
>and plugged it into each of my two working Mecs. Paris will boot but
>even internal clock was never found nor were the in/outs on each Mec.
>The 442 on the other hand works like a champ one card only. I =
suspect
>either all my Mecs are screwy now or the SCSI cables are intermitant =
at
=3D
>best.
>It's working fine with the 442 so I'm sticking with that for today.
>I'll add my EDS cards one by one and see if that is back to normal.
>
>Thanks for the help and if I need scsi cables what and where to buy =
them
=3D
>would be good info too.
>Mr Testy
> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message =3D
>news:469780ce$1@linux...
>
> I think Tom was asking if there was a "3.0" version of the EDS card =
=3D
>that needed
> to be connected to the master. The answer to that would be no.=3D20
> Is this what you were asking Tom?
> DJ's advice is very important though. I would do it, if you haven't =
=3D
>already.
> I don't want to sound like a "RTFM" kind of guy, but the Paris =
manual
=3D
>describes
> this procedure pretty well.
> It's on page 4 and 5 of the 3.0 version.
> It kind of sounds to me like you may not be hooking up the correct =
eds
=3D
>card
> to the master mec.
> Rod
> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =3D3D
> >news:46972376@linux...
> > This is really a novice oriented question but . . .
> > It doesn't matter which card is the "A" card
> > in your system as far as Paris' ID orientation right?
> >
> > Yes, it does, and the orientation of the slots you are using in =
=3D3D
> >combination with the orientation of the ribbon cables will =
determine
=3D
>=3D3D
> >this. Have you changed them around during your reconfiguration?
> >
> > Start with a new SCSI cable and a single EDS card. Test each =
MEC. =3D
>Once
> =3D3D
> >you know if there is a problem there, add a new SCSI cable and =3D
>another =3D3D
> >card. Put different modules in the MECs so you can see which one =
is =3D
>on =3D3D
> >card A, B, C at all times. this will give you the info as to how =
the
=3D
>=3D3D
> >cards are initializing and which card is card A, B, C as you start =
=3D
>=3D3D
> >adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that were =3D
>working =3D3D
> >perfectly when I took my system off line. I can't imagine it being =
a
=3D
>=3D3D
> >problem. Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue though. =
Your
=3D
>=3D3D
> >system will not function with bad SCSI cables.
> >
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> ><HTML><HEAD>
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> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D3D20
> > href=3D3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
=3D
>wrote =3D3D
> >in message=3D3D20
> > <A =
href=3D3D3D"news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>This is really a novice =
=3D
>oriented =3D3D
> >question but . .=3D3D20
> > .</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>It doesn't matter which =
card =3D
>is the =3D3D
> >"A"=3D3D20
> > card</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>in your system as far =
as =3D
>Paris' ID =3D3D
> >orientation=3D3D20
> > right?</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Yes, it does, and the =
=3D
>orientation of
> =3D3D
> >the slots=3D3D20
> > you are using in combination with the orientation of the =3D
>ribbon=3D3D20
> > cables will determine this. Have you changed them around during =
=3D3D
> >your=3D3D20
> > reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Start with a new SCSI =
cable =3D
>and a =3D3D
> >single EDS=3D3D20
> > card. Test each MEC. Once you know if there is a problem there, =
add
=3D
>a
> =3D3D
> >new SCSI=3D3D20
> > cable and another card. Put different modules in the MECs so you =
=3D
>can =3D3D
> >see which=3D3D20
> > one is on card A, B, C at all times. this will give you the info =
=3D
>=3D3D
> >as to=3D3D20
> > how the cards are initializing and which card is card A, B, C as =
=3D
>you =3D3D
> >start=3D3D20
> > adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that were =
=3D
>working
> =3D3D
> >
> > perfectly when I took my system off line. I can't imagine it =
being
=3D
>a =3D3D
> >problem.=3D3D20
> > Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue though. Your =
system
=3D
>=3D3D
> >will not=3D3D20
> > function with bad SCSI =3D3D
> >cables.</FONT></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
> >
> >
>
>
>
>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
>
><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
><HTML><HEAD>
><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
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><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Guys,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm all set with the cables and =
the =3D
>which card is A=3D20
>bit.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Rod you were right about what I =
was=3D20
>asking.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>In any event I scaled down to =
one EDS =3D
>(Pretty sure=3D20
>that's card A right?!!!)</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>and plugged it into each of my =
two =3D
>working=3D20
>Mecs. Paris will boot but</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>even internal clock was never =
found nor
=3D
>were the=3D20
>in/outs on each Mec.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>The 442 on the other hand works =
like a
=3D
>champ one=3D20
>card only. I suspect</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>either all my Mecs are screwy =
now or =3D
>the SCSI=3D20
>cables are intermitant at best.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>It's working fine with the 442 =
so I'm =3D
>sticking with=3D20
>that for today.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'll add my EDS cards one by one =
and =3D
>see if that is=3D20
>back to normal.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Thanks for the help and if I =
need scsi
=3D
>cables what=3D20
>and where to buy them would be good info too.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Mr Testy</FONT></DIV>
><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
=3D
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A=
>&g=3D
>t;=3D20
> wrote in message <A=3D20
> =
href=3D3D"news:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>I
=3D
>think Tom=3D20
> was asking if there was a "3.0" version of the EDS card that =3D
>needed<BR>to be=3D20
> connected to the master. The answer to that would be no. <BR>Is =
this =3D
>what you=3D20
> were asking Tom?<BR>DJ's advice is very important though. I would =
do =3D
>it, if=3D20
> you haven't already.<BR>I don't want to sound like a "RTFM" kind of =
=3D
>guy, but=3D20
> the Paris manual describes<BR>this procedure pretty well.<BR>It's =
on =3D
>page 4=3D20
> and 5 of the 3.0 version.<BR>It kind of sounds to me like you may =
not
=3D
>be=3D20
> hooking up the correct eds card<BR>to the master =
mec.<BR>Rod<BR>"DJ"=3D20
> <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net>=3D20
> wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote =3D
>in message=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>news:46972376@linux...<BR>> This is really a =3D
>novice oriented=3D20
> question but . . .<BR>> It doesn't matter which card is the =3D
>"A"=3D20
> card<BR>> in your system as far as Paris' ID orientation=3D20
> right?<BR>><BR>> Yes, it does, and the orientation of the =3D
>slots=3D20
> you are using in =3D3D<BR>>combination with the orientation of the =
=3D
>ribbon=3D20
> cables will determine =3D3D<BR>>this. Have you changed them around =
=3D
>during your=3D20
> reconfiguration?<BR>><BR>> Start with a new SCSI cable and =3D
>a=3D20
> single EDS card. Test each MEC. Once<BR>=3D3D<BR>>you know if there =
=3D
>is a=3D20
> problem there, add a new SCSI cable and another =3D3D<BR>>card. Put =
=3D
>different=3D20
> modules in the MECs so you can see which one is on =3D3D<BR>>card =
A, =3D
>B, C at=3D20
> all times. this will give you the info as to how the =
=3D3D<BR>>cards =3D
>are=3D20
> initializing and which card is card A, B, C as you start =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>adding more=3D20
> hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that were working =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>perfectly=3D20
> when I took my system off line. I can't imagine it being a =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D20
> Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue though. Your =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>system=3D20
> will not function with bad SCSI cables.<BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE =3D
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Not sure why. The ribbons are all =
>wired=20
>correctly.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm off to a hellish gigging =
>weekend. No more=20
>time for hell in Paris.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for all your input,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g=
>t;=20
> wrote in message <A=20
> href=3D"news:4697ab8a@linux">news:4697ab8a@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Did =
>you try=20
> hiding the default ppj to see if it would boot up with a MEC =
>when<BR>creating=20
> a new session? <BR>Rod<BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
> wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Guys,<BR>>I'm all set with the cables =
>and the=20
> which card is A bit.<BR>>Rod you were right about what I was=20
> asking.<BR>><BR>>In any event I scaled down to one EDS (Pretty =
>sure=20
> that's card A =3D<BR>>right?!!!)<BR>>and plugged it into each of =
>my two=20
> working Mecs. Paris will boot but<BR>>even internal clock was =
>never=20
> found nor were the in/outs on each Mec.<BR>>The 442 on the other =
>hand works=20
> like a champ one card only. I suspect<BR>>either all my Mecs =
>are=20
> screwy now or the SCSI cables are intermitant =
>at<BR>=3D<BR>>best.<BR>>It's=20
> working fine with the 442 so I'm sticking with that for =
>today.<BR>>I'll add=20
> my EDS cards one by one and see if that is back to=20
> normal.<BR>><BR>>Thanks for the help and if I need scsi cables =
>what and=20
> where to buy them<BR>=3D<BR>>would be good info too.<BR>>Mr=20
> Testy<BR>> "Rod Lincoln" <<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g=
>t;=20
> wrote in message =
>=3D<BR>>news:469780ce$1@linux...<BR>><BR>> I=20
> think Tom was asking if there was a "3.0" version of the EDS card=20
> =3D<BR>>that needed<BR>> to be connected to the master. =
>The answer=20
> to that would be no.=3D20<BR>> Is this what you were asking=20
> Tom?<BR>> DJ's advice is very important though. I would do =
>it, if you=20
> haven't =3D<BR>>already.<BR>> I don't want to sound like a =
>"RTFM"=20
> kind of guy, but the Paris =
>manual<BR>=3D<BR>>describes<BR>> this=20
> procedure pretty well.<BR>> It's on page 4 and 5 of the 3.0=20
> version.<BR>> It kind of sounds to me like you may not be =
>hooking up=20
> the correct eds<BR>=3D<BR>>card<BR>> to the master=20
> mec.<BR>> Rod<BR>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ =
>dot _=20
> net> wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> =20
> ><BR>> > "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
>in message=20
> =3D3D<BR>> >news:46972376@linux...<BR>> =
>> This is=20
> really a novice oriented question but . . .<BR>> > =
>It=20
> doesn't matter which card is the "A" card<BR>> > in =
>your=20
> system as far as Paris' ID orientation right?<BR>> =
>><BR>> =20
> > Yes, it does, and the orientation of the slots you are =
>using in=20
> =3D3D<BR>> >combination with the orientation of the ribbon =
>cables=20
> will determine<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >this. Have you =
>changed them=20
> around during your reconfiguration?<BR>> ><BR>> =20
> > Start with a new SCSI cable and a single EDS card. Test =
>each MEC.=20
> =3D<BR>>Once<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> >you know if =
>there is a=20
> problem there, add a new SCSI cable and =3D<BR>>another =
>=3D3D<BR>> =20
> >card. Put different modules in the MECs so you can see which one =
>is=20
> =3D<BR>>on =3D3D<BR>> >card A, B, C at all times. this =
>will give=20
> you the info as to how the<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >cards =
>are=20
> initializing and which card is card A, B, C as you start=20
> =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >adding more hardware. the MEC i =
>sent you is one=20
> of 4 that were =3D<BR>>working =3D3D<BR>> >perfectly =
>when I took my=20
> system off line. I can't imagine it being =
>a<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =20
> >problem. Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue though.=20
> Your<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >system will not function =
>with bad SCSI=20
> cables.<BR>> ><BR>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC=20
> "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"><BR>> =20
> ><HTML><HEAD><BR>> ><META=20
> http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html; =
>=3D3D<BR>> =20
> >charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>> ><META =
>content=3D3D3D"MSHTML=20
> 6.00.6000.16414" name=3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>> =20
> ><STYLE></STYLE><BR>> =
>></HEAD><BR>> =20
> ><BODY bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>> =
>><BLOCKQUOTE=20
> dir=3D3D3Dltr=3D3D20<BR>> >style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: =
>0px;=20
> PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =20
> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: =
>0px"><BR>> =20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
>size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
> </DIV><BR>> > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl"=20
> <<A=3D3D20<BR>> > href=3D3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
>o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=20
> =3D<BR>>wrote =3D3D<BR>> >in =
>message=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
> <A href=3D3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:469723=
>76@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>>&nbs=
>p;=20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>This =
>is really a=20
> novice =3D<BR>>oriented =3D3D<BR>> >question but .=20
> .=3D3D20<BR>> > =
>.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>It =
>doesn't matter=20
> which card =3D<BR>>is the =3D3D<BR>> =
>>"A"=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> > card</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>in your system as =
>far as=20
> =3D<BR>>Paris' ID =3D3D<BR>> =
>>orientation=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> > right?</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
> </DIV><BR>> > <DIV><BR>> =
>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Yes, it does, and =
>the=20
> =3D<BR>>orientation of<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> >the=20
> slots=3D3D20<BR>> > you are using in combination =
>with the=20
> orientation of the =3D<BR>>ribbon=3D3D20<BR>> > =
>cables will=20
> determine this. Have you changed them around during =
>=3D3D<BR>> =20
> >your=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
> reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
> </DIV><BR>> > <DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D3D2>Start with a new SCSI cable =3D<BR>>and a =
>=3D3D<BR>> =20
> >single EDS=3D3D20<BR>> > card. Test each MEC. =
>Once you=20
> know if there is a problem there, add<BR>=3D<BR>>a<BR>> =20
> =3D3D<BR>> >new SCSI=3D3D20<BR>> > cable =
>and another=20
> card. Put different modules in the MECs so you =3D<BR>>can =
>=3D3D<BR>> =20
> >see which=3D3D20<BR>> > one is on card A, B, C =
>at all=20
> times. this will give you the info =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =
>>as=20
> to=3D3D20<BR>> > how the cards are initializing and =
>which card=20
> is card A, B, C as =3D<BR>>you =3D3D<BR>> =
>>start=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> > adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that =
>were=20
> =3D<BR>>working<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> =
>><BR>> > =20
> perfectly when I took my system off line. I can't imagine it=20
> being<BR>=3D<BR>>a =3D3D<BR>> =
>>problem.=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> > Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue though. =
>Your=20
> system<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >will =
>not=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> > function with bad SCSI =3D3D<BR>> =20
> =
>>cables.</FONT></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></B=
>ODY></HTML><BR>> =20
> ><BR>> ><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>I choose =
>Polesoft=20
> Lockspam to fight spam, and=20
> you?<BR>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
> <BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=20
> Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=20
> http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html;=20
> =3D<BR>>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =
>content=3D3D"MSHTML=20
> 6.00.2800.1400"=20
> =
>name=3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=
>D><BR>><BODY=20
> bgColor=3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
> =
>size=3D3D2>Guys,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm all set with the cables and the =
>=3D<BR>>which=20
> card is =
>A=3D20<BR>>bit.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Rod you were right about what I=20
> =
>was=3D20<BR>>asking.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FO=
>NT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> =
></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>In any event I scaled down to one EDS=20
> =3D<BR>>(Pretty sure=3D20<BR>>that's card A=20
> right?!!!)</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>and plugged it into each of my two=20
> =3D<BR>>working=3D20<BR>>Mecs. Paris will boot=20
> but</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
>
> size=3D3D2>even internal clock was never found =
>nor<BR>=3D<BR>>were=20
> the=3D20<BR>>in/outs on each=20
> Mec.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>The 442 on the other hand works like =
>a<BR>=3D<BR>>champ=20
> one=3D20<BR>>card only. I=20
> suspect</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>either all my Mecs are screwy now or =3D<BR>>the=20
> SCSI=3D20<BR>>cables are intermitant at=20
> best.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>It's working fine with the 442 so I'm =
>=3D<BR>>sticking=20
> with=3D20<BR>>that for=20
> today.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>I'll add my EDS cards one by one and =3D<BR>>see if =
>that=20
> is=3D20<BR>>back to=20
> normal.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>Thanks for the help and if I need =
>scsi<BR>=3D<BR>>cables=20
> what=3D20<BR>>and where to buy them would be good info=20
> too.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>Mr=20
> =
>Testy</FONT></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20<BR>>style=3D=
>3D"PADDING-RIGHT:=20
> 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: =
>#000000 2px=20
> solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"Rod Lincoln"=20
> <<A=3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&a=
>mp;g'>mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</=
>A>&g</A>=3D<BR>>t;=3D20<BR>> =20
> wrote in message <A=3D20<BR>> href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'news:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>I'>n=
>ews:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV>&l=
>t;BR>I</A><BR>=3D<BR>>think=20
> Tom=3D20<BR>> was asking if there was a "3.0" version of the =
>EDS card=20
> that =3D<BR>>needed<BR>to be=3D20<BR>> connected to =
>the master.=20
> The answer to that would be no. <BR>Is this =3D<BR>>what=20
> you=3D20<BR>> were asking Tom?<BR>DJ's advice is very =
>important=20
> though. I would do =3D<BR>>it, if=3D20<BR>> you haven't=20
> already.<BR>I don't want to sound like a "RTFM" kind of =
>=3D<BR>>guy,=20
> but=3D20<BR>> the Paris manual describes<BR>this =
>procedure pretty=20
> well.<BR>It's on =3D<BR>>page 4=3D20<BR>> and 5 of =
>the 3.0=20
> version.<BR>It kind of sounds to me like you may=20
> not<BR>=3D<BR>>be=3D20<BR>> hooking up the correct eds=20
> card<BR>to the master =
>mec.<BR>Rod<BR>"DJ"=3D20<BR>> =20
> <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net>=3D20<BR>> =20
> wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> "Tom =
>Bruhl"=20
> <<A=3D20<BR>> href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
>o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=20
> wrote =3D<BR>>in message=3D20<BR>> =20
> =3D3D<BR>>news:46972376@linux...<BR>> This is really =
>a=20
> =3D<BR>>novice oriented=3D20<BR>> question but . . =
>.<BR>> It=20
> doesn't matter which card is the =3D<BR>>"A"=3D20<BR>> =20
> card<BR>> in your system as far as Paris' ID=20
> orientation=3D20<BR>> right?<BR>><BR>> Yes, =
>it does,=20
> and the orientation of the =3D<BR>>slots=3D20<BR>> you are =
>using in=20
> =3D3D<BR>>combination with the orientation of the=20
> =3D<BR>>ribbon=3D20<BR>> cables will determine =
>=3D3D<BR>>this.=20
> Have you changed them around =3D<BR>>during your=3D20<BR>> =
>
> reconfiguration?<BR>><BR>> Start with a new SCSI =
>cable and=20
> =3D<BR>>a=3D20<BR>> single EDS card. Test each MEC.=20
> Once<BR>=3D3D<BR>>you know if there =3D<BR>>is=20
> a=3D20<BR>> problem there, add a new SCSI cable and another=20
> =3D3D<BR>>card. Put =3D<BR>>different=3D20<BR>> =
>modules in the=20
> MECs so you can see which one is on =3D3D<BR>>card A, =
>=3D<BR>>B, C=20
> at=3D20<BR>> all times. this will give you the info as to how =
>the=20
> =3D3D<BR>>cards =3D<BR>>are=3D20<BR>> =
>initializing and which=20
> card is card A, B, C as you start =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>adding =
>
> more=3D20<BR>> hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that =
>were=20
> working =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>perfectly=3D20<BR>> =
>when I took my=20
> system off line. I can't imagine it being a=20
> =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D20<BR>> Bent pins on =
>SCSI cables=20
> can be a serious issue though. Your=20
> =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>system=3D20<BR>> will not =
>function with bad=20
> SCSI cables.<BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE=20
> =3D<BR>>HTML=3D20<BR>> PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML =
>4.0=3D20<BR>> =20
> =
>Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>>=
><META=3D20<BR>> =20
> http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type =
>content=3D3D3D"text/html;=3D20<BR>> =20
> =3D3D<BR>>charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =
>
> =3D<BR>>content=3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D20<BR>> =20
> 6.00.6000.16414"=3D20<BR>> =20
> =
>=3D<BR>>name=3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE&=
>gt;<BR>></HEA=3D<BR>>D><BR>><BODY=3D20<BR>&=
>gt; =20
> =
>bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20<BR>> =
>
> dir=3D3D3Dltr=3D3D20<BR>>style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; =
>PADDING-LEFT:=20
> =3D<BR>>5px;=3D20<BR>> MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>=3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT:=20
> #000000 2px solid; =3D<BR>>MARGIN-RIGHT:=3D20<BR>> =20
> 0px"><BR>> <DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =20
> size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =
><DIV>"Tom=20
> =3D<BR>>Bruhl"=3D20<BR>> <<A=3D3D20<BR>>=20
> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20<BR>> =20
> =
>=3D<BR>>href=3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net&l=
>t;/A'>mailto:arpegi=3D<BR>>o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net<=
>;/A</A>>>=3D20<BR>> =20
> wrote =3D3D<BR>>in message=3D3D20<BR>> <A=20
> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20<BR>> =20
> =
>=3D<BR>>href=3D3D'news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>=
>;...</DIV'>news:469723=3D<BR>>76@linux">news:46972376@linux&l=
>t;/A>...</DIV</A>><BR>>&nbs=3D<BR>>p;=3D20=
><BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>This is really a=20
> =3D<BR>>novice oriented=3D20<BR>> =
>=3D3D<BR>>question but .=20
> .=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20<BR>> =20
> .</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT=20
> =3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>It =
>doesn't matter which=20
> card is the =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>"A"=3D3D20<BR>> =
>=3D20<BR>> =20
> card</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT=20
> =3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>in your =
>system as far=20
> as Paris' ID=3D20<BR>> =
>=3D3D<BR>>orientation=3D3D20<BR>>=20
> =3D20<BR>> right?</FONT></DIV><BR>>=20
> <DIV><FONT =3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =20
> size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>>=20
> =3D<BR>><DIV><BR>> =3D20<BR>> =
><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Yes, it does, and the=20
> =3D<BR>>orientation=3D20<BR>> =
>of<BR>=3D3D<BR>>the=20
> slots=3D3D20<BR>> you are using in =3D<BR>>combination=20
> with=3D20<BR>> the orientation of the =
>ribbon=3D3D20<BR>> cables=20
> will determine =3D<BR>>this.=3D20<BR>> Have you changed =
>them around=20
> during =3D3D<BR>>your=3D3D20<BR>> =
>=3D<BR>><BR>> =20
> reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV><BR>>=20
> =3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =
>=3D20<BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Start with a new =
>SCSI=20
> =3D<BR>>cable and a=3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>single=20
> EDS=3D3D20<BR>> card. Test each MEC. Once you =3D<BR>>know =
>
> if=3D20<BR>> there is a problem there, add=20
> a<BR>=3D3D<BR>>new =3D<BR>>SCSI=3D3D20<BR>> =
>
> cable=3D20<BR>> and another card. Put different modules in =
>the MECs so=20
> you can =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>see=3D20<BR>> =20
> which=3D3D20<BR>> one is on card A, B, C at all times. this=20
> =3D<BR>>will give you=3D20<BR>> the info =
>=3D3D<BR>>as=20
> to=3D3D20<BR>> how the cards are =3D<BR>>initializing=20
> and=3D20<BR>> which card is card A, B, C as you=20
> =3D3D<BR>>start=3D3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>adding=20
> more=3D20<BR>> hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that=20
> were=3D20<BR>> =
>working<BR>=3D3D<BR>><BR>>=20
> perfectly when I took my system =3D<BR>>off line. =
>I=3D20<BR>> can't=20
> imagine it being a =3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D3D20<BR>> =
>Bent=20
> =3D<BR>>pins on SCSI=3D20<BR>> cables can be a serious =
>issue though.=20
> Your system =3D3D<BR>>will=3D20<BR>> =
>not=3D3D20<BR>>=20
> function with bad SCSI=3D20<BR>> =20
> =
>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>cables.</FONT></DIV></DIV>=
>;</BLOCKQUOTE>=3D<BR>>;</BODY></HTML><BR>>&=
>lt;BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
>spam,=20
> =
>=3D<BR>>and=3D20<BR>>you?<BR><A=3D20<BR>>href=3D3D" <A=20
> =
>href=3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
>'>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer</A=
>>=3D<BR>>.html</A>=20
> =
></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML><BR>><BR>><BR></=
>BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
>
>"Brad Lyons" <brad@audioandmid.com> wrote:
>
>Rod,
>
>Yeah---I'm with ya! I've always been "anal" about audio
fidelity and sound,
Is that what they mean when they say "sounds like ass"?
:)I want to see a seriously scientific analysis for comparison of the
total ecological impact of a fuel efficient internal combustion engine
vs this Toyota Hybrid.
What I think people don't fully consider is how the "plug-in"
electricity is generated, what energy loss is sustained in it's
transmission, storage to and recall from the battery. On the upside,
there is certainly an advantage to recapturing kinetic energy via
braking by generator.
I'm betting that, depending on the type of electrical generating plant,
and factoring in the efficiency losses above, a plug-in electrical
hybrid may have as big of a total carbon footprint as an efficient
internal combustion engine. It's just that you've offloaded some of the
power generating requirements to another location and methodology.
Factor in the environmental impact of battery manufacture and disposal
as well.
Out-of-sight and out-of-mind may, or may not, actually equate to more
eco-friendly.
Best regards,
Brian T
chuck duffy wrote:
> Check this out:
>
> http://www.tfot.info/index.php?option=com_rsgallery2&pag e=inline&id=209&catid=1&limitstart=189
>
> Toyota is doing a new lithium ion based battery, plug-in prius that will
> do up to 125 MPG. Set for release in 2008/2009.
>
> This will probably be my first hybrid car.
>
> Chuck
>
> Paul Braun <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:
>> On Wed, 6 Jun 2007 09:38:14 -0600, "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:466666c1$1@linux...
>>>> http://money.excite.com/jsp/nw/nwdt_rt_top.jsp?news_id=ap-d8 pivoe80&
>>> Cool !!!! Now it's like a Paris system
>>>
>>> (just trying to stay on topic so Kim doesn't send a guy over here to break
>
>>> my knees)
>>>
>> I think the problem lies in Honda's marketing department. Toyota
>> advertises the crap out of their system and Priusesses (Priuii??)
>> while Honda essentially put cars on the market and just left it up to
>> the consumer to find them.
>>
>> My wife drives a Honda Insight. Wonderful car. Gets 52mpg average.
>> Different technology than the Toyotas - Toyota is an electric car
>> with gas assist - kicks butt around town. The Honda is a gas car with
>> electric assist - kicks butt on the highway.
>>
>> But Sheri really had to dig to find anything about the Insight when
>> she went shopping three years ago. Same with the current Honda
>> hybrids.
>>
>> Instead of whacking a model and blaming engineering, for once, please,
>> club the marketing weenies over the heads with baseball bats and buy
>> them a clue!!!!!!
>>
>> pab
>My I/O routing is saved with N3.... I don't get this. If I
open different project files, I have different I/O set-ups
in each.
David.
Dedric Terry wrote:
> DJ - I would bet this is what is happening as well. I/O assignments are
> global, not on a per project basis.
>
> In N3 this is the only reason I end up with re-routed I/O - the reason being
> that your default or last project may have a different setup and in order to
> accommodate regular I/O assignments, external gear is taken offline Saving
> your I/O assignments, including CR setup can be a lifesaver, assuming this
> is the problem you are seeing.
>
> Do note that the two (VST I/O and the control room config) are separate and
> you need to save both, even though they will impact one another when
> allocating I/O (if you use the Control Room at least - it is *not* saved
> with the I/O presets at the moment, though I think it should).
>
> This is also one feature I would ask for in N4/C4.x - I/O and Control Rooms
> settings saved with each project, in addition to retaining global preset
> list/default setting option.
>
> Hope that solves the problem DJ - I know rerouting is massively frustrating.
>
> Regards,
> Dedric
>
> On 7/10/07 11:09 PM, in article 4694660a$1@linux, "Neil" <OIUOIU@.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>>May I suggest something?
>>
>>OK, I'm using my system as an example here since you & I have
>>different convertor sets, but follow for a moment & maybe this
>>will help if you apply similar principals to your setup...
>>
>>I have two Multifaces... let's say I have various
>>inputs on Multiface #1 assigned to INPUTS as follows in
>>the "VST Connections" dialogue:
>>
>>Multiface ch1 = Mono Input/Kick
>>MF Ch 2 = Mono Input/Snare
>>MF Ch 3 = Mono Input/Hat
>>MF Ch 4 = Mono Input/Cowbell & digital cowbell sample triggers
>>MF Ch's 5&6 = Stereo Input/OH's
>>MF Ch's 7&8 = Stereo Input/Drum Room-Ambience Mics
>>MF Ch's 9&10 = (SPDIF/Not used in this scenario)
>>MF Ch's 11 to 14 = ADAT (Lightpipe) inputs used for 4 tom mics.
>>
>>... and the only OUTputs you have assigned are:
>>MF Ch's 1&2 (OUTPUTS) = main monitors
>>
>>OK, so that wipes out ALL the inputs except for SPDIF in the
>>first Multiface, yes? All the other inputs would have to be
>>routed through the 2nd Multiface in this scenario... here's the
>>thing... when you get to mixdown & external EFX routing, let's
>>say you want your VST connections to look like this on your
>>first (Master!!!) Multiface - i.e the same one as above:
>>
>>MF Ch's 1&2 OUTPUTS = main monitors (no change there)
>>MF Ch 3 OUTPUT = send to external EFX/Distressor on vox track
>>MF Ch 3 INPUT = return from external EFX/Distressor on vox track
>>MF Ch 4 OUTPUT = send to external EFX/Massenburg EQ on kik
>>MF Ch 4 INPUT = return from external EFX/Massenburg EQ on kik
>>MF Ch's 5&6 OUTPUTS = send to external Lexi 480L, Engine "A"
>>MF Ch's 5&6 INPUTS = return from external Lexi 480L, Engine "A"
>>MF Ch's 7&8 OUTPUTS = send to external Lexi 480L, Engine "B"
>>MF Ch's 7&8 INPUTS = return from external Lexi 480L, Engine "B"
>>MF CH's 9&10 OUTPUTS = SPDIF to Quantec Yardstick IN's/Sends
>>MF CH's 9&10 INPUTS = SPDIF to Quantec Yardstick OUTS/Returns
>><lightpipes not used in mixdown in this example>
>>
>>Quite a bit different routing scenario than the one you used for
>>tracking, yes? I suspect what's happening is that you're not
>>saving your VST connections routing - if that's the case, every
>>time you open up a project it'll take you to the last "saved"
>>version, including any routing changes you've made & saved,
>>but NOT any routing changes you've made, but not saved!
>>
>>You can save these routing/patching changes in one of two ways:
>>
>>1.) set up all your routing for your patching & external EFX,
>>and make sure you save the project again once you do that
>>(either under a new project name or just overwrite what you've
>>got... I tend to save under a new name in case I fuck anything
>>up - or simply hate what I've done - and need to go back :) )
>>
>>2.) Save your routing scenarios in the "VST Connections"
>>dialogue... there's an option that let's you save those...
>>you could go from:
>>"ScreamingOkapis-SongOfWorldPeace-BasicTrackRouting", to...
>>"ScreamingOkapis-SongOfWorldPeace-OverdubRoutingA", to...
>>"ScreamingOkapis-SongOfWorldPeace-VocalOverdubs", to...
>>"ScreamingOkapis-SongOfWorldPeace-MixdownRoutingA", to...
>>"ScreamingOkapis-SongOfWorldPeace-MixdownRoutingB"
>>
>>Now, it's true I have SX3 and you have C4, but I would bet it's
>>the same basic idea. Got it? Kewl?
>>
>>Let us know if that works for you.
>>
>>Neil
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>
>>>Every time I close a project and then reopen it, various patches to my
>>>external gear are disabled.....especially prevalent on the inputs, but not
>>
>>>always, and sometimes the outputs are reassigned to different ones. I never
>>
>>>know what I'm going to be faces with when I recall a project. Sometimes
>>
>>it
>>
>>>takes me 10-15 minutes just hunt everything down to repatch.
>>>
>>>This really sucks........and I mean to the point that I'm about to kick
>>
>>this
>>
>>>damn thing out the window. Does Nuendo do this too? I need to be able to
>>
>>>save a project with AD/DA's assigned to external processors and be able
>>
>>to
>>
>>>recall it.......CONSISTENTLY!!!. This **FUCKING POS** is about to PISS ME
>>
>>>OFF!!!!!
>>>
>>>
>>
>Better imaging with TWO subs???
David.
Brad Lyons wrote:
> Rod,
>
> Yeah---I'm with ya! I've always been "anal" about audio fidelity and sound,
> I don't settle for low or even mid-grade. My monitoring setup is high-grade....
> Digidesign 192I/O to an Apogee MiniDAC into a pair of ADAM Audio S1A's and
> an Adam 10" sub, I'm about to add a second subwoofer for better imaging.
> That chain right there is $10,0000 just to listen to 2-channels of audio
> and believe me, you can hear the SLIGHTEST little detail. It's hard to listen
> to CD's in that system because it's capable of far better fidelity.
>
> Brad Lyons
>
> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>"Brad Lyons" <brad@audioandmidi.com> wrote:
>>It's easy
>>to think everyone listens to MP3's, I can't stand them to be honest--the
>>audio quality is awful in even the best MP3's when compared to raw audio
>>through high-resolution D/A's and monitors or high-end home theatre systems.
>>
>>I totally agree. I really don't get any enjoyment out of listening to mp3's.
>>They're kind of like cassettes. Handy for learning songs, but not good.
>
> Most
>
>>of my friends look at me like I'm crazy when I say that. Good to know someone
>>lese feels the same way.
>>Rod
>
>While you're out listening... Check out the Focal Twin 6
David.
Wayne Carson wrote:
> Thanks Brad. I'm on board for checking out the Adams. I didn't know they
> were active. That pretty much solves the amp issue. Thanks again.
>
> Wayne
>
>
>
>
>
> "Brad Lyons" <brad@audioandmidi.com> wrote in message
> news:46967bda$1@linux...
>
>>I can get a mix to sound good on the Peavey Versaray, but that doesn't
>>mean
>>it will be as good across multiple systems. NS10's were wonderful in
>>their
>>day, but today---gear quality has changed dramatically. They are fine for
>>listen-back, but they won't show you in-depth frequency. Mix on any kind
>>of Adam's sometime, you'll know what I mean within 30-seconds.
>>
>>Brad
>>
>>"Wayne Carson" <carson_wayne@msn.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Brad,
>>>
>>>I've read on this newsgroup and have to agree (if I understood the posts
>>
>>>correctly, but am open to suggestions too) that the NS-10s, although a bit
>>
>>>mid'ly and harsh, do a good job at throwing the bad things in your face.
>>
>>If
>>
>>>anyone can make a mix sound good on NS-10s, then it's probably gonna be
>>
>>>really good. Don't ya think?
>>>
>>>Wayne
>>>
>>>
>>>"Brad Lyons" <brad@audioandmidi.com> wrote in message
>>>news:469540ee$1@linux...
>>>
>>>>Yep! Clocking is quite important, and many are surprised at just how
>>
>>much
>>
>>>>of a different a BigBen makes in most situations. I am running a BigBen
>>>>in one of my studios, primarily because without it--nothing could
>>>>function
>>>>(I have multiple devices connected digitally as well as locked to house
>>
>>>>sync
>>>>across multiple locations). I use the Apogee MiniDAC off of my
>>>>Digidesign
>>>>192I/O, but the DAC1 kicks butt too!
>>>>
>>>>As to a better amp....NO NO NO, honestly--get some new monitors. The
>>
>>>>reality
>>>>is if you're using NS10's, you're really missing out on a lot of other
>>
>>>>details.
>>>>Without spending much money, check out the ADAM A7's. I own a set of
>>
>>the
>>
>>>>P33A's as well as a pair of the S1A's and one of the 10" ADAM subs. I'm
>>>>getting ready to get a second 10" sub and (5) A7's for
>>>>surround....you'll
>>>>be stunned when you mix on these things, seriously.
>>>>
>>>>Brad Lyons- Sweetwater
>>>>www.audioandmidi.com
>>>>"Wayne Carson" <carson_wayne@msn.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>>It's been a week since I hooked up the benchmark and clock to my simple
>>>>
>>>>>1-MEC w/two 8-in, 2-EDS, 1-C16 system. I used 3' apogee cables on both
>>>>
>>>>and
>>>>
>>>>>one 75 ohm term on the MEC s/pdif out. I did not use a bnc "T".
>>>>>
>>>>>It made a wonderful difference. I set the BB clock to internal at 44.1k
>>>>
>>>>and
>>>>
>>>>>used the bnc out to the MEC. I set Paris to word clock. That's it.
>>
>>It
>>
>>>>>locks at 44.1. I think I can even hear jitter on previously recorded
>>
>>>>>stuff,
>>>>
>>>>>specifically on vocals when solo'ed, but then again it could be the
>>>>>coffee!
>>>>>
>>>>>I've run 8 completely different song mixes that I am working on and it
>>
>>is
>>
>>>>so
>>>>
>>>>>much easier to find and correct things and so far appears to translate
>>
>>>>>very
>>>>
>>>>>similar to my simple home stereo system, bedroom Bose/CD wave radio and
>>>>
>>>>'04
>>>>
>>>>>Honda Accord car sound system. And that's what it's all about for me.
>>>>
>>>>This
>>>>
>>>>>should make for a whole lot less trial and error mixing. My '06 Tundra
>>>>
>>>>>truck sound system is not even close, but that's another issue.
>>>>>
>>>>>In my studio, I individually A/B'd the clock and the DAC against the
>>>>>Paris
>>>>
>>>>>L/R monitor out and internal clock. In each case the clock and/or the
>>
>>DAC
>>
>>>>>cleaned up the low/mid mushiness, allowed the kick to be heard with the
>>>>
>>>>bass
>>>>
>>>>>and not a boom but a punch, spaced out the depth, ambiance and stereo
>>
>>>>>field
>>>>
>>>>>and overall gave clarity to the mix. Paris EDS efx's are more
>>>>>distinguishable now.
>>>>>
>>>>>Previously I used the Paris L/R monitor out to my 1604vlz (ch 15-16)
>>>>>trim
>>>>
>>>>>off, eq flat, level at unity and the main's out to my Alesis RA-100
>>>>>(yah,
>>>>
>>>>I
>>>>
>>>>>know it's not so good, but I thought I was getting a decent flat ref amp
>>>>
>>>>>when I bought it back in '96.) to yama's NS-10's and a sub under my desk
>>>>
>>>>for
>>>>
>>>>>fill and to curl my toes.
>>>>>
>>>>>I was very suprised to find out how bad the Mackie colored the sound.
>>
>>A
>>
>>>>>very noticable harshness around 1-2khz and possibly higher, lack of
>>>>>warmth
>>>>
>>>>>between 100-300hz and just an overall sound like crowded, cramped, busy
>>>>
>>>>and
>>>>
>>>>>flat tonality. Tweaking the 3 eq's helps but only removed about half
>>
>>the
>>
>>>>>problem. This is compared to the MEC digita s/pdif out to the DAC1 and
>>
>>>>>it's
>>>>
>>>>>XLR outs to the RA-100 to the NS-10s. This sound was warm and round,
>>
>>>>>almost
>>>>
>>>>>surround. It put a smile on my face.
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm a happy camper. Special thanks to Dave, Kim, DJ, Miguel, Jeff and
>>
>>>>>Neil.
>>>>
>>>>>I guess my next purchase will be an appropriate reference pwr amp.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>Wayne
>>>>>Paris since '97
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>
>BT wrote:
> I want to see a seriously scientific analysis for comparison of the
> total ecological impact of a fuel efficient internal combustion engine
> vs this Toyota Hybrid.
First, I can give you a comparison with a standard Prius hybrid and one
of the most efficient ICE-only vehicles.
In highway driving my 1992 Honda Civic VX does about as good as a
standard (non plug-in) Prius. Around 50 mpg. Although the Prius is a
bigger car so that's actually pretty good for the Prius.
I don't know why Honda quit making the VX, it's a great little car,
double hatchback like a station wagon, hauls lots of stuff and sips gas.
When you need power it's there, when you don't it runs very efficiently
(for an ICE vehicle).
However in city driving the standard Prius probably runs circles around
my Honda. There the Prius can really use the combination of smaller,
specialized ICE and high torque electric assist. It can kill its ICE
entirely in stop and go driving and inch along on battery power, wasting
no power idling when stopped.
As for the canard that a *plug-in* Prius (of which there are a very few
right now, converted by third parties) is less efficient than an
straight ICE, that's very questionable.
First, the equivalent MPG for average distance driving is near or over
100MPG. That's better than any ICE.
Second, the electricity used for the first X miles can be generated from
non-polluting sources. Wind, solar, hydro.
But even if it's from a coal plant it's still less pollution than an ICE
for the energy used, and it's likely to be easier to mitigate pollution
at one plant than a gazillion small mobile pollution sources: ICE cars.
Also, if plug-in cars charge at night, I've read that there may be
otherwise unused power available on the grid, enough to charge millions
of cars. Wind turbines still spinning, hydro still generating and coal
plants that don't shut down even when their power isn't being used.
I'll have to dig up some stats for you on the plug-in Prius, it's been
discussed quite a bit...
OK, here's one. See what you think of this analysis (they obviously like
the idea but they do present some actual numbers to help make their case):
http://www.pluginamerica.com/images/EmissionsSummary.pdf (summary below)
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
"PHEVs reduce CO2 emissions by 37%-67% compared with ICEs and by 19%-54%
compared with HEVs in well-to-wheels (W2W) analyses assuming fueling with
gasoline and electricity from the U.S. mix of power plants (and ignoring
one or two
outliers in the data). PHEVs reduce all other greenhouse gas emissions too.
EVs reduce CO2 by 11%-100% compared with ICEs and by 24%-54% compared with
HEVs, and significantly reduce all other greenhouse gas emissions, using
the U.S. grid
mix. If all U.S. cars were EVs, we’d reduce global warming emissions. Using
electricity strictly from coal, EVs still would reduce CO2 by 0%-59%
compared with
ICEs (one analysis found 0% change; six others found reductions of
17%-59%) and
might produce 30%-49% more CO2 than HEVs (based on only two analyses).
On the
other hand, if electricity comes from solar or wind power, EVs eliminate
all emissions.
Using natural gas to make electricity, emissions fall in between those
from coal and
renewable power.
As for criteria air pollutants – the emissions that cause smog or acid
rain – the data are
mixed on whether using electricity for fuel would create more or less
emissions
compared with using gasoline. In either case, however, these emissions
won’t
necessarily enter the atmosphere. (See final paragraph of summary.)
Most analyses of
criteria pollutants look only at EVs and ICEs; numbers for PHEVs or HEVs
may be
based on only one study.
Overall:
NOx – Compared with ICEs, PHEVs decrease NOx by as much as 67% or
increase it up to 83%; EVs decrease it by 32%-99%. Compared with HEVs,
PHEVs
may decrease NOx by 110% or increase it up to 108%; EVs increase it 384
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> >champ one=3D3D20
> >card only. I suspect</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>either all my Mecs are =
screwy =3D
>now or =3D3D
> >the SCSI=3D3D20
> >cables are intermitant at best.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>It's working fine with =
the 442 =3D
>so I'm =3D3D
> >sticking with=3D3D20
> >that for today.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I'll add my EDS cards one =
by one
=3D
>and =3D3D
> >see if that is=3D3D20
> >back to normal.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Thanks for the help and =
if I =3D
>need scsi
> =3D3D
> >cables what=3D3D20
> >and where to buy them would be good info too.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Mr Testy</FONT></DIV>
> ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20
> >style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
5px; =3D
>=3D3D
> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > <DIV>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=3D3D20
> > =3D3D
> =3D
=
>>href=3D3D3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com=
</A=3D
>>&g=3D3D
> >t;=3D3D20
> > wrote in message <A=3D3D20
> > =3D
=
>href=3D3D3D"news:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR=
>I
> =3D3D
> >think Tom=3D3D20
> > was asking if there was a "3.0" version of the EDS card that =
=3D3D
> >needed<BR>to be=3D3D20
> > connected to the master. The answer to that would be no. <BR>Is =
=3D
>this =3D3D
> >what you=3D3D20
> > were asking Tom?<BR>DJ's advice is very important though. I =
would =3D
>do =3D3D
> >it, if=3D3D20
> > you haven't already.<BR>I don't want to sound like a "RTFM" kind =
of
=3D
>=3D3D
> >guy, but=3D3D20
> > the Paris manual describes<BR>this procedure pretty =
well.<BR>It's =3D
>on =3D3D
> >page 4=3D3D20
> > and 5 of the 3.0 version.<BR>It kind of sounds to me like you =
may =3D
>not
> =3D3D
> >be=3D3D20
> > hooking up the correct eds card<BR>to the master =3D
>mec.<BR>Rod<BR>"DJ"=3D3D20
> > <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net>=3D3D20
> > wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D3D20
> > href=3D3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
=3D
>wrote =3D3D
> >in message=3D3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>news:46972376@linux...<BR>> This is really a =3D3D
> >novice oriented=3D3D20
> > question but . . .<BR>> It doesn't matter which card is the =
=3D3D
> >"A"=3D3D20
> > card<BR>> in your system as far as Paris' ID orientation=3D3D20
> > right?<BR>><BR>> Yes, it does, and the orientation of the =3D3D
> >slots=3D3D20
> > you are using in =3D3D3D<BR>>combination with the orientation of =
the
=3D
>=3D3D
> >ribbon=3D3D20
> > cables will determine =3D3D3D<BR>>this. Have you changed them =
around
=3D
>=3D3D
> >during your=3D3D20
> > reconfiguration?<BR>><BR>> Start with a new SCSI cable and =3D3D
> >a=3D3D20
> > single EDS card. Test each MEC. Once<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>you know if =
there
=3D
>=3D3D
> >is a=3D3D20
> > problem there, add a new SCSI cable and another =
=3D3D3D<BR>>card. Put
=3D
>=3D3D
> >different=3D3D20
> > modules in the MECs so you can see which one is on =
=3D3D3D<BR>>card =3D
>A, =3D3D
> >B, C at=3D3D20
> > all times. this will give you the info as to how the =3D
>=3D3D3D<BR>>cards =3D3D
> >are=3D3D20
> > initializing and which card is card A, B, C as you start =3D3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>adding more=3D3D20
> > hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that were working =3D3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>perfectly=3D3D20
> > when I took my system off line. I can't imagine it being a =3D3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D3D20
> > Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue though. Your =
=3D3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>system=3D3D20
> > will not function with bad SCSI cables.<BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE =3D3D
> >HTML=3D3D20
> > PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=3D3D20
> > Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=3D3D20
> > http-equiv=3D3D3D3DContent-Type =
content=3D3D3D3D"text/html;=3D3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>charset=3D3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =3D3D
> >content=3D3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D3D20
> > 6.00.6000.16414"=3D3D20
> > =3D3D
> >name=3D3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=3D3D
> >D><BR>><BODY=3D3D20
> > bgColor=3D3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20
> > dir=3D3D3D3Dltr=3D3D3D20<BR>>style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; =
=3D
>PADDING-LEFT: =3D3D
> >5px;=3D3D20
> > MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; =
=3D3D
> >MARGIN-RIGHT:=3D3D20
> > 0px"><BR>> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> <DIV>"Tom =3D3D
> >Bruhl"=3D3D20
> > <<A=3D3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
> > =3D3D
> =3D
=
>>href=3D3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:=
arp=3D
>egi=3D3D
> >o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=3D3D20
> > wrote =3D3D3D<BR>>in message=3D3D3D20<BR>> <A =
href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
> > =3D3D
> =3D
=
>>href=3D3D3D'news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:=
469=3D
>723=3D3D
> >76@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>>&nbs=3D3D
> >p;=3D3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>This is really a =
=3D3D
> >novice oriented=3D3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>question but . .=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
> > .</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D3D
> >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2>It doesn't matter which card is the =3D3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>"A"=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
> > card</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D3D
> >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2>in your system as far as Paris' ID=3D3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>orientation=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
> > right?</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D3D
> >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =3D3D
> ><DIV><BR>> =3D3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Yes, it does, and =
the =3D3D
> >orientation=3D3D20
> > of<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>the slots=3D3D3D20<BR>> you are using in =3D3D
> >combination with=3D3D20
> > the orientation of the ribbon=3D3D3D20<BR>> cables will =
determine =3D3D
> >this.=3D3D20
> > Have you changed them around during =
=3D3D3D<BR>>your=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D
> >
> > reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D
> ><DIV><FONT=3D3D20
> > face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =3D3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Start with a new =
SCSI =3D3D
> >cable and a=3D3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>single EDS=3D3D3D20<BR>> card. Test each MEC. Once =
you =3D3D
> >know if=3D3D20
> > there is a problem there, add a<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>new =3D3D
> >SCSI=3D3D3D20<BR>> cable=3D3D20
> > and another card. Put different modules in the MECs so you can =
=3D3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>see=3D3D20
> > which=3D3D3D20<BR>> one is on card A, B, C at all times. this =
=3D3D
> >will give you=3D3D20
> > the info =3D3D3D<BR>>as to=3D3D3D20<BR>> how the cards are =3D3D
> >initializing and=3D3D20
> > which card is card A, B, C as you =
=3D3D3D<BR>>start=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D
> >adding more=3D3D20
> > hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that were=3D3D20
> > working<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>><BR>> perfectly when I took my system =
=3D3D
> >off line. I=3D3D20
> > can't imagine it being a =3D3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D3D3D20<BR>> Bent =
=3D3D
> >pins on SCSI=3D3D20
> > cables can be a serious issue though. Your system =3D
>=3D3D3D<BR>>will=3D3D20
> > not=3D3D3D20<BR>> function with bad SCSI=3D3D20
> > =3D3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>cables.</FONT></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>=3D3D
> >;</BODY></HTML><BR>><BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
> ><DIV><FONT size=3D3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to =
fight =3D
>spam, =3D3D
> >and=3D3D20
> >you?<BR><A=3D3D20
> =3D
=
>>href=3D3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com=
/re=3D
>fer=3D3D
> >.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
> >
> >
>
>
><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
><HTML><HEAD>
><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1">
><META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3D3DGENERATOR>
><STYLE></STYLE>
></HEAD>
><BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hey Rod,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hiding the default project =
didn't help=3D20
>anything. I've never</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>had 2.?? installed on this comp =
so I =3D
>think I'm safe=3D20
>there regarding</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>drivers.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I am only able to intermitantly =
get the
=3D
>442 working=3D20
>as the master.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I think that's do to the scsi =
cable =3D
>issue. I=3D20
>need four new ones.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I am unable to get more than one =
EDS =3D
>card working=3D20
>WITH the 442.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Not sure why. The ribbons are =
all =3D
>wired=3D20
>correctly.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm off to a hellish gigging =3D
>weekend. No more=3D20
>tim
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Bill L
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><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>It's working fine with the 442 =
=3D<BR>>so I'm=20
=3D3D<BR>> >sticking with=3D3D20<BR>> >that =
for=20
today.</FONT></DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I'll add my EDS cards one by =
one<BR>=3D<BR>>and=20
=3D3D<BR>> >see if that is=3D3D20<BR>> >back =
to=20
normal.</FONT></DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Thanks for =
the help and=20
if I =3D<BR>>need scsi<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> >cables =
what=3D3D20<BR>> >and where to buy them would be good info =
too.</FONT></DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Mr =
Testy</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20<BR>> =
>style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px;=20
PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =20
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: =
0px"><BR>> =20
> <DIV>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
=3D3D<BR>> =3D<BR>>>href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A'>m=
ailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A</A>=3D=
<BR>>>&g=3D3D<BR>> =20
>t;=3D3D20<BR>> > wrote in message =
<A=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>I'>n=
ews:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV>&l=
t;BR>I</A><BR>> =20
=3D3D<BR>> >think Tom=3D3D20<BR>> > was =
asking if=20
there was a "3.0" version of the EDS card that =3D3D<BR>> =20
>needed<BR>to be=3D3D20<BR>> > connected to =
the=20
master. The answer to that would be no. <BR>Is =3D<BR>>this=20
=3D3D<BR>> >what you=3D3D20<BR>> > were =
asking=20
Tom?<BR>DJ's advice is very important though. I would =
=3D<BR>>do=20
=3D3D<BR>> >it, if=3D3D20<BR>> > you =
haven't=20
already.<BR>I don't want to sound like a "RTFM" kind=20
of<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >guy, but=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
the Paris manual describes<BR>this procedure pretty =
well.<BR>It's=20
=3D<BR>>on =3D3D<BR>> >page 4=3D3D20<BR>> =
> and 5=20
of the 3.0 version.<BR>It kind of sounds to me like you may=20
=3D<BR>>not<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> =
>be=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> hooking up the correct eds card<BR>to the master=20
=3D<BR>>mec.<BR>Rod<BR> "DJ"=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
<animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net>=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
wrote:<BR>><BR>>&a mp;lt;BR>><BR>> "Tom =
Bruhl"=20
<<A=3D3D20<BR>> > href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=20
=3D<BR>>wrote =3D3D<BR>> >in =
message=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
=3D3D3D<BR>>news:46972376@linux...<BR>> This is =
really a=20
=3D3D<BR>> >novice oriented=3D3D20<BR>> =
> question=20
but . . .<BR>> It doesn't matter which card is the =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
>"A"=3D3D20<BR>> > card<BR>> in your =
system as far=20
as Paris' ID orientation=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
right?<BR>><BR>> Yes, it does, and the orientation =
of the=20
=3D3D<BR>> >slots=3D3D20<BR>> > you are =
using in=20
=3D3D3D<BR>>combination with the orientation of=20
the<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >ribbon=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
cables will determine =3D3D3D<BR>>this. Have you changed them =
around<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >during =
your=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> reconfiguration?<BR>><BR> > Start with a =
new SCSI=20
cable and =3D3D<BR>> >a=3D3D20<BR>> > =
single EDS=20
card. Test each MEC. Once<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>you know if=20
there<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >is a=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
problem there, add a new SCSI cable and another =
=3D3D3D<BR>>card.=20
Put<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =
>different=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
modules in the MECs so you can see which one is on =
=3D3D3D<BR>>card=20
=3D<BR>>A, =3D3D<BR>> >B, C at=3D3D20<BR>> =
> all=20
times. this will give you the info as to how the=20
=3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>cards =3D3D<BR>> =
>are=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> initializing and which card is card A, B, C as you start=20
=3D3D<BR>> >=3D3D3D<BR>>adding =
more=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that were working=20
=3D3D<BR>> =
>=3D3D3D<BR>>perfectly=3D3D20<BR >> =20
> when I took my system off line. I can't imagine it being a=20
=3D3D<BR>> =
>=3D3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D3D20<BR >> =20
> Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue though. =
Your=20
=3D3D<BR>> =
>=3D3D3D<BR>>system=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
will not function with bad SCSI=20
cables.<BR>><BR>>& amp;lt;!DOCTYPE =3D3D<BR>> =20
>HTML=3D3D20<BR>> > PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML=20
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0px"><BR>> <DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> =20
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<DIV>"Tom =3D3D<BR>> >Bruhl"=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
<<A=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> =20
=
=3D<BR>>>href=3D3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast=
..net</A'>mailto:arp=3D<BR>>egi=3D3D<BR >> =20
=
>o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=3D3D20<=
BR>> =20
> wrote =3D3D3D<BR>>in =
message=3D3D3D20<BR>> <A=20
href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20<BR>> > =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
=
=3D<BR>>>href=3D3D3D'news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux<=
;/A>...</DIV'>news:469=3D<BR>>723=3D3D <BR>> =20
=
>76@linux">news:46972376@linux </A>...</DIV</A>>& amp;l=
t;BR>>&nbs=3D3D<BR>> =20
>p;=3D3D20<BR>> > <DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2>This is really a =3D3D<BR>> >novice=20
oriented=3D3D20<BR>> > =3D3D3D<BR>>question =
but .=20
.=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20<BR>> > =20
.</FONT></DIV><BR> > <DIV><FONT =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> > =
size=3D3D3D3D2>It doesn't=20
matter which card is the =3D3D<BR>> =20
>=3D3D3D<BR>>"A"=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
card</FONT></DIV><BR& gt;> <DIV><FONT=20
=3D3D<BR>> >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
size=3D3D3D3D2>in your system as far as Paris' =
ID=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> =3D3D3D<BR>>orientation=3D3D3D20< ;BR>>=20
=3D3D20<BR>> > =
right?</FONT></DIV><BR&am p;gt;>=20
<DIV><FONT =3D3D<BR>> =
>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>>=20
=3D3D<BR>> ><DIV><BR>> =
=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Yes, it does, =
and the=20
=3D3D<BR>> >orientation=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
of<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>the slots=3D3D3D20<BR>> you =
are using in=20
=3D3D<BR>> >combination with=3D3D20<BR>> =
> the=20
orientation of the ribbon=3D3D3D20<BR>> cables will determine =
=3D3D<BR>> >this.=3D3D20<BR>> > Have you =
changed=20
them around during =3D3D3D<BR>>your=3D3D3D20<BR& ;gt;>=20
=3D3D<BR>> ><BR>> > =20
reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV>&am p;lt;BR>> =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT=3D3D20<BR>> > =
face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =
=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2>Start with a=20
new SCSI =3D3D<BR>> >cable and a=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
=3D3D3D<BR>>single EDS=3D3D3D20<BR>> card. Test each =
MEC. Once=20
you =3D3D<BR>> >know if=3D3D20<BR>> > =
there is a=20
problem there, add a<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>new =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
>SCSI=3D3D3D20<BR>> cable=3D3D20<BR>> > =
and another=20
card. Put different modules in the MECs so you can =3D3D<BR>> =
>=3D3D3D<BR>>see=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
which=3D3D3D20<BR>> one is on card A, B, C at all times. this =
=3D3D<BR>> >will give you=3D3D20<BR>> > =
the info=20
=3D3D3D<BR>>as to=3D3D3D20<BR>> how the cards are=20
=3D3D<BR>> >initializing and=3D3D20<BR>> =
> which=20
card is card A, B, C as you =
=3D3D3D<BR>>start=3D3D3D20<BR&am p;gt;>=20
=3D3D<BR>> >adding more=3D3D20<BR>> > =
hardware. the=20
MEC i sent you is one of 4 that were=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
working<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>&a mp;lt;BR>> perfectly when I =
took my=20
system =3D3D<BR>> >off line. I=3D3D20<BR>> =
> can't=20
imagine it being a =
=3D3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D3D3D20<BR >> Bent=20
=3D3D<BR>> >pins on SCSI=3D3D20<BR>> > =
cables can be=20
a serious issue though. Your system=20
=3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>will=3D3D20 <BR>> > =20
not=3D3D3D20<BR>> function with bad SCSI=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
=3D3D<BR>> =20
=
>=3D3D3D<BR>>cables.</FON T></DIV></DIV><=
/BLOCKQUOTE>=3D3D<BR>> =20
=
>;</BODY></HTML><B R>><BR>><BR> ;<=
/BLOCKQUOTE><BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT size=3D3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose =
Polesoft=20
Lockspam to fight =3D<BR>>spam, =3D3D<BR>> =
>and=3D3D20<BR>> =20
>you?<BR><A=3D3D20<BR>> =
=3D<BR>>>href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re'>h=
ttp://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re</A>=3D<B=
R>>fer=3D3D<BR>> =20
>.html</A>=20
</FONT></DIV></BODY&g t;</HTML> <BR>> =20
><BR>> ><BR>><BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML =
PUBLIC=20
"-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=20
Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD> <BR>><META=20
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D><BR>><BODY=20
bgColor=3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
size=3D3D2>Hey=20
Rod,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>Hiding the default project didn't =
help=3D20<BR>>anything. I've=20
never</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>had 2.?? installed on this comp so I =3D<BR>>think =
I'm=20
safe=3D20<BR>>there=20
regarding</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
=
size=3D3D2>drivers.</FONT></DIV& amp;gt; <BR>><DIV><FON=
T=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I am only able to intermitantly get=20
the<BR>=3D<BR>>442 working=3D20<BR>>as the=20
master.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>I think that's do to the scsi cable =3D<BR>>issue.=20
I=3D20<BR>>need four new=20
ones.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>I am unable to get more than one EDS =3D<BR>>ca
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Thu, 21 June 2007 20:20 |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
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rd=20
working=3D20<BR>>WITH the=20
442.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>Not sure why. The ribbons are all=20
=
=3D<BR>>wired=3D20<BR>>correctly.</FONT></DIV> <BR>>&=
lt;DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm off to a hellish gigging =
=3D<BR>>weekend. No=20
more=3D20<BR>>time for hell in=20
Paris.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>Thanks for all your=20
input,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
=
size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV&g t; <BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20<BR>=
>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT:=20
0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: =
#000000 2px=20
solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"Rod Lincoln"=20
<<A=3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&a=
mp;g'>mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</=
A>&g</A>=3D<BR>>t;=3D20<BR>> =20
wrote in message <A=3D20<BR>> href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:4697ab8a@linux">news:4697ab8a@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Did'>new=
s:4697ab8a@linux">news:4697ab8a@linux</A>...</DIV><BR&g=
t;Did</A>=20
=3D<BR>>you try=3D20<BR>> hiding the default ppj to see if =
it would=20
boot up with a MEC =
=3D<BR>>when<BR>creating=3D20<BR>> a new=20
session? <BR>Rod<BR>"Tom Bruhl" =
<<A=3D20<BR>> =20
href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20'>mailto=
:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20</A><BR>&g=
t; =20
wrote:<BR>><BR>>&a mp;lt;BR>>Guys,<BR>>I'm =
all set=20
with the cables =3D<BR>>and the=3D20<BR>> which card is A=20
bit.<BR>>Rod you were right about what I =
was=3D20<BR>> =20
asking.<BR>><BR>>I n any event I scaled down to one =
EDS=20
(Pretty =3D<BR>>sure=3D20<BR>> that's card A=20
=3D3D<BR>>right?!!!)<BR>& amp;gt;and plugged it into each of =
=3D<BR>>my two=3D20<BR>> working Mecs. Paris will boot=20
but<BR>>even internal clock was =
=3D<BR>>never=3D20<BR>> found=20
nor were the in/outs on each Mec.<BR>>The 442 on the other=20
=3D<BR>>hand works=3D20<BR>> like a champ one card only. I =
suspect<BR>>either all my Mecs =
=3D<BR>>are=3D20<BR>> screwy=20
now or the SCSI cables are intermitant=20
=
=3D<BR> >at<BR>=3D3D<BR>>b est.<BR>>It's=3D20 <BR=
>> =20
working fine with the 442 so I'm sticking with that for=20
=3D<BR>>today.<BR>>I'll add=3D20<BR>> my EDS =
cards one by one=20
and see if that is back to=3D20<BR>> =20
normal.<BR>><BR>>T hanks for the help and if I need =
scsi=20
cables =3D<BR>>what and=3D20<BR>> where to buy=20
them<BR>=3D3D<BR>>would be good info=20
too.<BR>>Mr=3D20<BR>> Testy<BR>> "Rod =
Lincoln"=20
<<A=3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&a=
mp;g'>mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</=
A>&g</A>=3D<BR>>t;=3D20<BR>> =20
wrote in message=20
=
=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>news:469780ce$1@linux...<BR>><B=
R>>=20
I=3D20<BR>> think Tom was asking if there was a "3.0" version =
of the=20
EDS card=3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>that =
needed<BR>> to be=20
connected to the master. =3D<BR>>The answer=3D20<BR>> to =
that would be=20
no.=3D3D20<BR>> Is this what you were =
asking=3D20<BR>> =20
Tom?<BR>> DJ's advice is very important though. I would do=20
=3D<BR>>it, if you=3D20<BR>> haven't=20
=3D3D<BR>>already.<BR>&am p;gt; I don't want to sound like a =
=3D<BR>>"RTFM"=3D20<BR>> kind of guy, but the Paris=20
=3D<BR> >manual<BR>=3D3D<BR>& gt;describes<BR>>=20
this=3D20<BR>> procedure pretty well.<BR>> It's on =
page 4 and=20
5 of the 3.0=3D20<BR>> version.<BR>> It kind of =
sounds to me=20
like you may not be =3D<BR>>hooking up=3D20<BR>> the =
correct=20
eds<BR>=3D3D<BR>>card& ;lt;BR>> to the=20
master=3D20<BR>> mec.<BR>> Rod<BR>> "DJ" =
<animix _=20
at _ animas _ =3D<BR>>dot _=3D20<BR>> net> =
wrote:<BR>>=20
><BR>> ><BR>> =3D20<BR>> =
><BR>>=20
> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20<BR>> href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=20
wrote =3D<BR>>in message=3D20<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>>=20
>news:46972376@linux...<BR>> =3D<BR>>> This=20
is=3D20<BR>> really a novice oriented question but . . =
..<BR>>=20
> =3D<BR>>It=3D20<BR>> doesn't matter which card is the =
"A"=20
card<BR>> > in =3D<BR>>your=3D20<BR>> system =
as far as=20
Paris' ID orientation right?<BR>> =
=3D<BR>>><BR>>=20
=3D20<BR>> > Yes, it does, and the orientation of the =
slots you are=20
=3D<BR>>using in=3D20<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>> =
>combination with=20
the orientation of the ribbon =3D<BR>>cables=3D20<BR>> =
will=20
determine<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3 D3D3D<BR>> >this. =
Have you=20
=3D<BR>>changed them=3D20<BR>> around during your=20
reconfiguration?<BR>> ><BR>> =3D20<BR>> =
> Start=20
with a new SCSI cable and a single EDS card. Test =3D<BR>>each=20
MEC.=3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>Once<BR>> ; =
=3D3D3D<BR>>=20
>you know if =3D<BR>>there is a=3D20<BR>> problem =
there, add a new=20
SCSI cable and =3D3D<BR>>another =
=3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>=20
=3D20<BR>> >card. Put different modules in the MECs so you =
can see=20
which one =3D<BR>>is=3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>on =
=3D3D3D<BR>>=20
>card A, B, C at all times. this =3D<BR>>will =
give=3D20<BR>> you=20
the info as to how =
the<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D& amp;lt;BR>> >cards=20
=3D<BR>>are=3D20<BR>> initializing and which card is card =
A, B, C as=20
you start=3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>& ;gt; =
>adding=20
more hardware. the MEC i =3D<BR>>sent you is one=3D20<BR>> =
of 4 that=20
were =3D3D<BR>>working =3D3D3D<BR>> >perfectly =
=3D<BR>>when=20
I took my=3D20<BR>> system off line. I can't imagine it being =
=3D<BR> >a<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3 D3D3D<BR>> =
=3D20<BR>> =20
>problem. Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue=20
though.=3D20<BR>> =
Your<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D <BR>>=20
>system will not function =3D<BR>>with bad =
SCSI=3D20<BR>> =20
cables.<BR>> ><BR>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML=20
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dir=3D3D3D3Dltr=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
>style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT:=20
=3D<BR>>0px;=3D20<BR>> PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
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=3D20<BR>> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
=3D<BR>>size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D20 <BR>> =20
</DIV><BR>> > <DIV>"Tom =
Bruhl"=3D20<BR>> =20
<<A=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =
href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D20<BR>> =20
=
=3D<BR>>href=3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net&l=
t;/A'>mailto:arpegi=3D<BR>>o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net<=
;/A</A>>>=3D20<BR>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>wrote =3D3D3D<BR>> >in=20
=3D<BR>>message=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =3D20<BR>> =
<A=20
href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D20<BR>> =20
=
=3D<BR>>href=3D3D'news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>=
;...</DIV'>news:469723=3D<BR>>76@linux">news:46972376@linux&l=
t;/A>...</DIV</A>>< ;BR>>&nbs=3D <BR>>p;=3D20=
<BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>This =
=3D<BR>>is=20
really a=3D20<BR>> novice =3D3D<BR>>oriented =
=3D3D3D<BR>>=20
>question but .=3D20<BR>> .=3D3D3D20<BR>> >=20
=3D<BR> >.</FONT></DIV><BR >> =
=3D20<BR>> >=20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>It =
=3D<BR>>doesn't=20
matter=3D20<BR>> which card =3D3D<BR>>is the =
=3D3D3D<BR>>=20
=3D<BR>>>"A"=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20<BR>> >=20
card</FONT></DIV><BR& gt;> > =3D20<BR>> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>in your =
system as=20
=3D<BR>>far as=3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>Paris' ID=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> =
=3D<BR> >>orientation=3D3D3D20<BR>&g t;=20
=3D20<BR>> > right?</FONT></DIV><BR&am p;gt;> =
>=20
=3D20<BR>> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D20<BR>> =
</DIV><BR>> >=20
<DIV><BR>> =3D<BR>>> =3D20<BR>> =
<DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Yes, it does, and=20
=3D<BR>>the=3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>orientation =
of<BR>>=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> >the=3D20<BR>> =
slots=3D3D3D20<BR>> >=20
you are using in combination =3D<BR>>with the=3D20<BR>> =
orientation of=20
the =3D3D<BR>>ribbon=3D3D3D20<BR& ;gt;> > =
=3D<BR>>cables=20
will=3D20<BR>> determine this. Have you changed them around =
during=20
=3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20<BR>> =
>your=3D3D3D20<BR>>=20
> =3D20<BR>> =
reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV>&am p;lt;BR>>=20
> =3D20<BR>> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D20<BR>> =
</DIV><BR>> >=20
<DIV><FONT =3D<BR>>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =20
size=3D3D3D3D2>Start with a new SCSI cable =3D3D<BR>>and a =
=3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20<BR>> >single=20
EDS=3D3D3D20<BR>> > card. Test each MEC. =3D<BR>>Once=20
you=3D20<BR>> know if there is a problem there,=20
add<BR>=3D3D<BR>>a< ;BR>> =3D20<BR>> =20
=3D3D3D<BR>> >new SCSI=3D3D3D20<BR>> > cable =
=3D<BR>>and=20
another=3D20<BR>> card. Put different modules in the MECs so =
you=20
=3D3D<BR>>can =3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> =
=3D20<BR>> >see=20
which=3D3D3D20<BR>> > one is on card A, B, C =3D<BR>>at =
all=3D20<BR>> times. this will give you the info=20
=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>& ;gt; =
=3D<BR>>>as=3D20<BR>> =20
to=3D3D3D20<BR>> > how the cards are initializing and =
=3D<BR>>which=20
card=3D20<BR>> is card A, B, C as =3D3D<BR>>you=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D<BR>>>start=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
=3D20<BR>> =20
> adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that=20
=3D<BR>>were=3D20<BR>> =
=3D3D<BR>>working<BR>& ;gt;=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D<BR>>><BR>> > =
=3D20<BR>> =20
perfectly when I took my system off line. I can't imagine =
it=3D20<BR>> =20
being<BR>=3D3D<BR>>a =3D3D3D<BR>>=20
=3D<BR>>>problem.=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20<BR>> =
> Bent pins on=20
SCSI cables can be a serious issue though. =
=3D<BR>>Your=3D20<BR>> =20
system<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D 3D<BR>> >will=20
=3D<BR>>not=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20<BR>> > =
function with bad=20
SCSI =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20<BR>> =20
=
=3D<BR> >>cables.</FONT></DIV& ;gt;</DIV></BLOCKQUOT=
E></B=3D<BR> >ODY></HTML><BR>&a mp;gt;=20
=3D20<BR>> ><BR>>=20
><BR>><BR>> <BR>><BR>>I choose=20
=3D<BR>>Polesoft=3D20<BR>> Lockspam to fight spam,=20
and=3D20<BR>> =
you?<BR>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html=20
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------=_NextPart_000_0117_01C7C679.115E6590--Tom,
Stupid question, but did you ever start up without any c16's? If so did
you see the same issue?
Jeff
Bruhl wrote:
> Rod,
> I am working from a clone that was totally good with two
> fully loaded Mecs. I have to assume the drivers are good.
> I'm looking for a good vendor for SCSI cables now.
> They're called SCSI 2 right?
> http://www.m2cables.com/SCSI2toSCSI2CablesHDB50MtoML6.html
>
> I'm thinking of cleaning the female jacks on the mec and EDS to be
> sure all is well. Any sprays anyone suggests? I've got Deoxit.
> Good?
> Tom
>
> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com
> <mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com>> wrote in message
> news:4697f7e2$1@linux...
>
> Tom, sounds like it probably is a scsi issue. Your running xp right?
> The new
> Scherzo drivers are for xp verses 98 not for 3.0 verses 2.x
> Come to think of it. you probably whoudn't have had any old drivers
> on your
> xp sys drive anyway...never mind.
> Rod
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net>> wrote:
> >
> >
> >Hey Rod,
> >Hiding the default project didn't help anything. I've never
> >had 2.?? installed on this comp so I think I'm safe there regarding
> >drivers.
> >
> >I am only able to intermitantly get the 442 working as the master.
> >I think that's do to the scsi cable issue. I need four new ones.
> >I am unable to get more than one EDS card working WITH the 442.
> >Not sure why. The ribbons are all wired correctly.
> >
> >I'm off to a hellish gigging weekend. No more time for hell in Paris.
> >Thanks for all your input,
> >Tom
> > "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com
> <mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com>> wrote in message =
> >news:4697ab8a@linux...
> >
> > Did you try hiding the default ppj to see if it would boot up
> with a =
> >MEC when
> > creating a new session?=20
> > Rod
> > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net>>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >Guys,
> > >I'm all set with the cables and the which card is A bit.
> > >Rod you were right about what I was asking.
> > >
> > >In any event I scaled down to one EDS (Pretty sure that's card
> A =3D
> > >right?!!!)
> > >and plugged it into each of my two working Mecs. Paris will
> boot but
> > >even internal clock was never found nor were the in/outs on
> each Mec.
> > >The 442 on the other hand works like a champ one card only. I =
> >suspect
> > >either all my Mecs are screwy now or the SCSI cables are
> intermitant
> =
> >at
> > =3D
> > >best.
> > >It's working fine with the 442 so I'm sticking with that for today.
> > >I'll add my EDS cards one by one and see if that is back to normal.
> > >
> > >Thanks for the help and if I need scsi cables what and where to
> buy =
> >them
> > =3D
> > >would be good info too.
> > >Mr Testy
> > > "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com
> <mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com>> wrote in message =3D
> > >news:469780ce$1@linux...
> > >
> > > I think Tom was asking if there was a "3.0" version of the
> EDS card
> =
> >=3D
> > >that needed
> > > to be connected to the master. The answer to that would be
> no.=3D20
> > > Is this what you were asking Tom?
> > > DJ's advice is very important though. I would do it, if you
> haven't
> =
> >=3D
> > >already.
> > > I don't want to sound like a "RTFM" kind of guy, but the Paris =
> >manual
> > =3D
> > >describes
> > > this procedure pretty well.
> > > It's on page 4 and 5 of the 3.0 version.
> > > It kind of sounds to me like you may not be hooking up the
> correct
> =
> >eds
> > =3D
> > >card
> > > to the master mec.
> > > Rod
> > > "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net
> <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net>> wrote in message =3D3D
> > > >news:46972376@linux...
> > > > This is really a novice oriented question but . . .
> > > > It doesn't matter which card is the "A" card
> > > > in your system as far as Paris' ID orientation right?
> > > >
> > > > Yes, it does, and the orientation of the slots you are
> using in
> =
> >=3D3D
> > > >combination with the orientation of the ribbon cables will =
> >determine
> > =3D
> > >=3D3D
> > > >this. Have you changed them around during your reconfiguration?
> > > >
> > > > Start with a new SCSI cable and a single EDS card. Test each =
> >MEC. =3D
> > >Once
> > > =3D3D
> > > >you know if there is a problem there, add a new SCSI cable
> and =3D
> > >another =3D3D
> > > >card. Put different modules in the MECs so you can see which
> one =
> >is =3D
> > >on =3D3D
> > > >card A, B, C at all times. this will give you the info as to
> how =
> >the
> > =3D
> > >=3D3D
> > > >cards are initializing and which card is card A, B, C as you
> start
> =
> >=3D
> > >=3D3D
> > > >adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that
> were =3D
> > >working =3D3D
> > > >perfectly when I took my system off line. I can't imagine it
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Fri, 22 June 2007 05:35 |
Deej [4]
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> > > > right?</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > > <DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Yes, it does, and
> the =
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> > > > you are using in combination with the orientation of the =3D
> > >ribbon=3D3D20
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> during
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> > > >your=3D3D20
> > > > reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Start with a new
> SCSI =
> >cable =3D
> > >and a =3D3D
> > > >single EDS=3D3D20
> > > > card. Test each MEC. Once you know if there is a problem
> there,
> =
> >add
> > =3D
> > >a
> > > =3D3D
> > > >new SCSI=3D3D20
> > > > cable and another card. Put different modules in the MECs
> so you
> =
> >=3D
> > >can =3D3D
> > > >see which=3D3D20
> > > > one is on card A, B, C at all times. this will give you
> the info
> =
> >=3D
> > >=3D3D
> > > >as to=3D3D20
> > > > how the cards are initializing and which card is card A,
> B, C as
> =
> >=3D
> > >you =3D3D
> > > >start=3D3D20
> > > > adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that
> were =
> >=3D
> > >working
> > > =3D3D
> > > >
> > > > perfectly when I took my system off line. I can't imagine it =
> >being
> > =3D
> > >a =3D3D
> > > >problem.=3D3D20
> > > > Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue though. Your =
> >system
> > =3D
> > >=3D3D
> > > >will not=3D3D20
> > > > function with bad SCSI =3D3D
> > > >cables.</FONT></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> > >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
> > >
> > ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> > ><HTML><HEAD>
> > ><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
> > >charset=3D3Diso-8859-1">
> > ><META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3D3DGENERATOR>
> > ><STYLE></STYLE>
> > ></HEAD>
> > ><BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Guys,</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm all set with the
> cables and
> =
> >the =3D
> > >which card is A=3D20
> > >bit.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Rod you were right about
> what I
> =
> >was=3D20
> > >asking.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>In any event I scaled down
> to =
> >one EDS =3D
> > >(Pretty sure=3D20
> > >that's card A right?!!!)</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>and plugged it into each
> of my =
> >two =3D
> > >working=3D20
> > >Mecs. Paris will boot but</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>even internal clock was
> never =
> >found nor
> > =3D
> > >were the=3D20
> > >in/outs on each Mec.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>The 442 on the other hand
> works
> =
> >like a
> > =3D
> > >champ one=3D20
> > >card only. I suspect</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>either all my Mecs are
> screwy =
> >now or =3D
> > >the SCSI=3D20
> > >cables are intermitant at best.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>It's working fine with the
> 442 =
> >so I'm =3D
> > >sticking with=3D20
> > >that for today.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'll add my EDS cards one
> by one
> =
> >and =3D
> > >see if that is=3D20
> > >back to normal.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Thanks for the help and if I =
> >need scsi
> > =3D
> > >cables what=3D20
> > >and where to buy them would be good info too.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Mr Testy</FONT></DIV>
> > ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
> > >style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT:
> 5px; =
> >=3D
> > >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > > <DIV>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=3D20
> > > =3D
> > =
> >>href=3D3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A
> <mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>=
> >>&g=3D
> > >t;=3D20
> > > wrote in message <A=3D20
> > > =
> >href=3D3D"news:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>I
> <news:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>I>
> > =3D
> > >think Tom=3D20
> > > was asking if there was a "3.0" version of the EDS card that =3D
> > >needed<BR>to be=3D20
> > > connected to the master. The answer to that would be no. <BR>Is =
> >this =3D
> > >what you=3D20
> > > were asking Tom?<BR>DJ's advice is very important though. I
> would =
> >do =3D
> > >it, if=3D20
> > > you haven't already.<BR>I don't want to sound like a "RTFM"
> kind of
> =
> >=3D
> > >guy, but=3D20
> > > the Paris manual describes<BR>this procedure pretty
> well.<BR>It's =
> >on =3D
> > >page 4=3D20
> > > and 5 of the 3.0 version.<BR>It kind of sounds to me like you
> may =
> >not
> > =3D
> > >be=3D20
> > > hooking up the correct eds card<BR>to the master =
> >mec.<BR>Rod<BR>"DJ"=3D20
> > > <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net>=3D20
> > > wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> > > href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A
> <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>> =
> >wrote =3D
> > >in message=3D20
> > > =3D3D<BR>>news:46972376@linux...<BR>> This is really a =3D
> > >novice oriented=3D20
> > > question but . . .<BR>> It doesn't matter which card is the =3D
> > >"A"=3D20
> > > card<BR>> in your system as far as Paris' ID orientation=3D20
> > > right?<BR>><BR>> Yes, it does, and the orientation of the =3D
> > >slots=3D20
> > > you are using in =3D3D<BR>>combination with the orientation
> of the
> =
> >=3D
> > >ribbon=3D20
> > > cables will determine =3D3D<BR>>this. Have you changed them
> around
> =
> >=3D
> > >during your=3D20
> > > reconfiguration?<BR>><BR>> Start with a new SCSI cable and =3D
> > >a=3D20
> > > single EDS card. Test each MEC. Once<BR>=3D3D<BR>>you know if
> there
> =
> >=3D
> > >is a=3D20
> > > problem there, add a new SCSI cable and another
> =3D3D<BR>>card. Put
> =
> >=3D
> > >different=3D20
> > > modules in the MECs so you can see which one is on
> =3D3D<BR>>card =
> >A, =3D
> > >B, C at=3D20
> > > all times. this will give you the info as to how the =
> >=3D3D<BR>>cards =3D
> > >are=3D20
> > > initializing and which card is card A, B, C as you start =3D
> > >=3D3D<BR>>adding more=3D20
> > > hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that were working =3D
> > >=3D3D<BR>>perfectly=3D20
> > > when I took my system off line. I can't imagine it being a =3D
> > >=3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D20
> > > Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue though. Your =3D
> > >=3D3D<BR>>system=3D20
> > > will not function with bad SCSI cables.<BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE =3D
> > >HTML=3D20
> > > PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=3D20
> > > Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=3D20
> > > http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html;=3D20
> > > =3D3D<BR>>charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =3D
> > >content=3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D20
> > > 6.00.6000.16414"=3D20
> > > =3D
> > >name=3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=3D
> > >D><BR>><BODY=3D20
> > > bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
> > > dir=3D3D3Dltr=3D3D20<BR>>style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; =
> >PADDING-LEFT: =3D
> > >5px;=3D20
> > > MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; =3D
> > >MARGIN-RIGHT:=3D20
> > > 0px"><BR>> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> <DIV>"Tom =3D
> > >Bruhl"=3D20
> > > <<A=3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > > =3D
> > =
> >>href=3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arp=
> >egi=3D
> > >o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=3D20
> > > wrote =3D3D<BR>>in message=3D3D20<BR>> <A href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > > =3D
> > =
> >>href=3D3D'news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:469=
> >723=3D
> > >76@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>>&nbs=3D
> > >p;=3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>This is really a =3D
> > >novice oriented=3D20
> > > =3D3D<BR>>question but . .=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > .</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D
> > >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D2>It doesn't matter which card is the =3D
> > >=3D3D<BR>>"A"=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > card</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D
> > >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D2>in your system as far as Paris' ID=3D20
> > > =3D3D<BR>>orientation=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > right?</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D
> > >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =3D
> > ><DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Yes, it does, and
> the =3D
> > >orientation=3D20
> > > of<BR>=3D3D<BR>>the slots=3D3D20<BR>> you are using in =3D
> > >combination with=3D20
> > > the orientation of the ribbon=3D3D20<BR>> cables will
> determine =3D
> > >this.=3D20
> > > Have you changed them around during
> =3D3D<BR>>your=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> > >
> > > reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
> > ><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Start with a new
> SCSI =3D
> > >cable and a=3D20
> > > =3D3D<BR>>single EDS=3D3D20<BR>> card. Test each MEC. Once
> you =3D
> > >know if=3D20
> > > there is a problem there, add a<BR>=3D3D<BR>>new =3D
> > >SCSI=3D3D20<BR>> cable=3D20
> > > and another card. Put different modules in the MECs so you
> can =3D
> > >=3D3D<BR>>see=3D20
> > > which=3D3D20<BR>> one is on card A, B, C at all times. this =3D
> > >will give you=3D20
> > > the info =3D3D<BR>>as to=3D3D20<BR>> how the cards are =3D
> > >initializing and=3D20
> > > which card is card A, B, C as you =3D3D<BR>>start=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> > >adding more=3D20
> > > hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that were=3D20
> > > working<BR>=3D3D<BR>><BR>> perfectly when I took my system =3D
> > >off line. I=3D20
> > > can't imagine it being a =3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D3D20<BR>> Bent =3D
> > >pins on SCSI=3D20
> > > cables can be a serious issue though. Your system =
> >=3D3D<BR>>will=3D20
> > > not=3D3D20<BR>> function with bad SCSI=3D20
> > > =3D
> > >=3D3D<BR>>cables.</FONT></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>=3D
> > >;</BODY></HTML><BR>><BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
> > ><DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
> >spam, =3D
> > >and=3D20
> > >you?<BR><A=3D20
> > =
> >>href=3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re
> <http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re>=
> >fer=3D
> > >.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> ><HTML><HEAD>
> ><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
> >charset=3Diso-8859-1">
> ><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3DGENERATOR>
> ><STYLE></STYLE>
> ></HEAD>
> ><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hey Rod,</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hiding the default project didn't
> help=20
> >anything. I've never</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>had 2.?? installed on this comp
> so I =
> >think I'm safe=20
> >there regarding</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>drivers.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am only able to intermitantly
> get the
> =
> >442 working=20
> >as the master.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think that's do to the scsi cable =
> >issue. I=20
> >need four new ones.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am unable to get more than one
> EDS =
> >card working=20
> >WITH the 442.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Not sure why. The ribbons are all =
> >wired=20
> >correctly.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm off to a hellish gigging =
> >weekend. No more=20
> >time for hell in Paris.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for all your
> input,</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> ><BLOCKQUOTE=20
> >style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > <DIV>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=20
> > =
> >href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g
> <mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g>=
> >t;=20
> > wrote in message <A=20
> >
> href=3D"news:4697ab8a@linux">news:4697ab8a@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Did
> <news:4697ab8a@linux">news:4697ab8a@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Did> =
> >you try=20
> > hiding the default ppj to see if it would boot up with a MEC =
> >when<BR>creating=20
> > a new session? <BR>Rod<BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
> > href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
> <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20>
> > wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Guys,<BR>>I'm all set with the cables =
> >and the=20
> > which card is A bit.<BR>>Rod you were right about what I was=20
> > asking.<BR>><BR>>In any event I scaled down to one EDS (Pretty =
> >sure=20
> > that's card A =3D<BR>>right?!!!)<BR>>and plugged it into each of =
> >my two=20
> > working Mecs. Paris will boot but<BR>>even internal clock was =
> >never=20
> > found nor were the in/outs on each Mec.<BR>>The 442 on the other =
> >hand works=20
> > like a champ one card only. I suspect<BR>>either all my Mecs =
> >are=20
> > screwy now or the SCSI cables are intermitant =
> >at<BR>=3D<BR>>best.<BR>>It's=20
> > working fine with the 442 so I'm sticking with that for =
> >today.<BR>>I'll add=20
> > my EDS cards one by one and see if that is back to=20
> > normal.<BR>><BR>>Thanks for the help and if I need scsi cables =
> >what and=20
> > where to buy them<BR>=3D<BR>>would be good info too.<BR>>Mr=20
> > Testy<BR>> "Rod Lincoln" <<A=20
> > =
> >href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g
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Fri, 22 June 2007 08:17 |
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he internet.
> So,
> she's ready.
>
> Ghost thing has two versions, 10 and 2003. Which should she use? I've
> heard
> (can't remember where) that older versions of Ghost were better than the
> newest one, which I assume is 10.
>
> I just read all the old Paris posts mentioning Ghost, and
> http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/
> is mentioned. Looks like a good thing. The reference to it said it works
> with Ghost 8. This seems to be no longer availiable.
>
> Any suggestions, ideas, etc? Bonnie's ready to do something...
>
> -steve the mostly mac guy
>
> (Although I have an XP machine, and I think now I'm going to try that
> http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/
> thing myself...)
>"Wireline" <kennospam@wirelinestudio.com> wrote in message
news:46992581$1@linux...
>
> DANGER: The following is merely observational, and editorial in nature...
>
> Been following Deej's problems with Cubase, and in case you didn't know by
> now, the aptly named Samp 9.11 is a frigging disgrace with unexplained
> crashes,
> inability to use multi-core peecees, etc...
>
> That said, is it just my observation, or have the latest bunch of DAW
> releases
> all come with an inexplicable suckage factor? Cubase, Samp, I've heard
> issues
> from Sonar users, Soundforge, all seem to have a giant trouser trout
> lurking,
> waiting to attack. Today, as I was tracking a pretty big project,
> Samplitude
> crashes...no reason, just crashed...
>
> As much as it pains me to say this, PTHD is looking better and better - it
> may not be even in the top 5 in sound quality nor value, but there are not
> the same unresolved repeat bugs that plague any DAW coming out of Germany
> in the past year...
>
> Oh, the humanity....I still like PARIS. But I'm also a cheapskate and avoid learning curves
like the plague. :)
S
"Wireline" <kennospam@wirelinestudio.com> wrote in message
news:46992581$1@linux...
>
> DANGER: The following is merely observational, and editorial in nature...
>
> Been following Deej's problems with Cubase, and in case you didn't know by
> now, the aptly named Samp 9.11 is a frigging disgrace with unexplained
> crashes,
> inability to use multi-core peecees, etc...
>
> That said, is it just my observation, or have the latest bunch of DAW
> releases
> all come with an inexplicable suckage factor? Cubase, Samp, I've heard
> issues
> from Sonar users, Soundforge, all seem to have a giant trouser trout
> lurking,
> waiting to attack. Today, as I was tracking a pretty big project,
> Samplitude
> crashes...no reason, just crashed...
>
> As much as it pains me to say this, PTHD is looking better and better - it
> may not be even in the top 5 in sound quality nor value, but there are not
> the same unresolved repeat bugs that plague any DAW coming out of Germany
> in the past year...
>
> Oh, the humanity....and i thought your first post said it perfectly....yet your second one
said even more...damn girl...
On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 01:02:02 -0700, "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com>
wrote:
>I still like PARIS. But I'm also a cheapskate and avoid learning curves
>like the plague. :)
>
>S
>
>
>"Wireline" <kennospam@wirelinestudio.com> wrote in message
>news:46992581$1@linux...
>>
>> DANGER: The following is merely observational, and editorial in nature...
>>
>> Been following Deej's problems with Cubase, and in case you didn't know by
>> now, the aptly named Samp 9.11 is a frigging disgrace with unexplained
>> crashes,
>> inability to use multi-core peecees, etc...
>>
>> That said, is it just my observation, or have the latest bunch of DAW
>> releases
>> all come with an inexplicable suckage factor? Cubase, Samp, I've heard
>> issues
>> from Sonar users, Soundforge, all seem to have a giant trouser trout
>> lurking,
>> waiting to attack. Today, as I was tracking a pretty big project,
>> Samplitude
>> crashes...no reason, just crashed...
>>
>> As much as it pains me to say this, PTHD is looking better and better - it
>> may not be even in the top 5 in sound quality nor value, but there are not
>> the same unresolved repeat bugs that plague any DAW coming out of Germany
>> in the past year...
>>
>> Oh, the humanity....
>I have always had trouble with paris but I didn't built a franken-daw like
DJ. Just a simple 2 card setup was never solid for me where now in cubase
i'm very solid but i don't have a franken-daw either, just one lowly 9652
audio card.
I'm sure I have thrown some drama around though and for that I apologize.
John
"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>OOhh, that's calling the kettle black.
>I remember a few posts regarding Paris that were written in much stronger
>language than that.
>Do you remember, John? ;>}
>
>Martin Harrington
>www.lendanear-sound.com
>0414 913 247
>
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:469910ea$1@linux...
>>
>> DJ, you're becoming a real drama queen. Either figure your shit out
or
>> go
>> with a simpler setup. Drama is for girls.
>
>--
>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:adtj93l8nqkuar9su8q8uv4so2gia08lgj@4ax.com...
> and i thought your first post said it perfectly....yet your second one
> said even more...damn girl...
>
> On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 01:02:02 -0700, "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com>
> wrote:
>
>>I still like PARIS. But I'm also a cheapskate and avoid learning curves
>>like the plague. :)
>>
>>S
>>
>>
>>"Wireline" <kennospam@wirelinestudio.com> wrote in message
>>news:46992581$1@linux...
>>>
>>> DANGER: The following is merely observational, and editorial in
>>> nature...
>>>
>>> Been following Deej's problems with Cubase, and in case you didn't know
>>> by
>>> now, the aptly named Samp 9.11 is a frigging disgrace with unexplained
>>> crashes,
>>> inability to use multi-core peecees, etc...
>>>
>>> That said, is it just my observation, or have the latest bunch of DAW
>>> releases
>>> all come with an inexplicable suckage factor? Cubase, Samp, I've heard
>>> issues
>>> from Sonar users, Soundforge, all seem to have a giant trouser trout
>>> lurking,
>>> waiting to attack. Today, as I was tracking a pretty big project,
>>> Samplitude
>>> crashes...no reason, just crashed...
>>>
>>> As much as it pains me to say this, PTHD is looking better and better -
>>> it
>>> may not be even in the top 5 in sound quality nor value, but there are
>>> not
>>> the same unresolved repeat bugs that plague any DAW coming out of
>>> Germany
>>> in the past year...
>>>
>>> Oh, the humanity....
>>
>TC - Digital Konnekt x32
Digital router, sample rate converter and Firewire interface with a few tricks.
http://www.tcelectronic.com/Default.asp?Id=11321
Price?
Genenow that was funny!!!
;o)"Brad Lyons" <brad@audioandmidi.com> wrote:
>
>Yep! People say bass is non-directional and honestly, that just isn't true.
It may not be non-directional, but it carries so much energy,
and with waveforms that have lengths of entire rooms or longer,
it's "virtually" non-directional.
Not saying that two subs might not be beneficial - I've never
really mixed with a subwoofer, so I have no idea in that
regard.
NeilAnybody using "legacy" Paris on "legacy" OS 9 (sigh) have any experience with
Metric Halo Channel Strip working? I use the OSX version and I've got the
demo
for OS9 running, but after Manually loading the Library with some favourite
settings, they won't reload. The title is in the bin, but nothing changes
in the
plug itself... Metric Halo is also checking into this.
Thanks for any help.
TedIs it possible to daisy chain two of these?
;o)
"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:469a38a4@linux...
>
>
> TC - Digital Konnekt x32
> Digital router, sample rate converter and Firewire interface with a few
> tricks.
>
> http://www.tcelectronic.com/Default.asp?Id=11321
>
> Price?
>
> Gene
>Hey Deej, another thing I just thought of is: Did you ever try
refreshing your VST connections? On my last PC I used to have
to do this quite a bit, for no known reason (I still feel like
it was a chipset issue - the PC before that one & the current
one were & are both so rock-solid stable with the Cubase/RME
combo. I just needed more power, Scotty!!! lol). Anyhoo - you
know where I'm referring to, right? You go into the Devices
submenu, you find your i/o listings & you hit "refresh" & if
anything wasn't showing up upon your PC loading the drivers,
it'll detect it & repopulate the list.
IOW, if you had an external patch for a vocal compressor on
channel 6 in & out on your Multiface, and it wasn't detecting
that channel properly upon loading, then all of a sudden that
piece of hardware would show up on the next available channel
it DID detect. So let's say you had a Distressor on vox on the
aforementioned channel six, and a dbx comp on the Multi's
channel 7 on bass, and let's say for the sake of this example
that ch six was the only channel that wasn't detected upon boot-
up, it might bump the distressor up to channel 7 & the dbx comp
up to channel 8! That would pretty much screw up your
patching/routing assignments, esp if it were to do something
screwy like detect ch 6's in put, but not the output, and ch
3's output, but not the input, and those both happened to be
channels that you had external EFX routed through.
Does this sound like what might possibly be happening in your
case?
Neil
"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>You'll never crack the German logic. hehe
>
>Oh, If you want to link channels it will hose up the record enabling,
so
>you need to FIRST record enable the group of channels you want to link (like
>10 drums), THEN LINK them. Then it works fine so far ;-)
>
>If you don't do it that way then only some of the record enabled / linked
>tracks will actually record.
>
>JohnFunny, that’s the first question I had. That and price.
Gene
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>Is it possible to daisy chain two of these?
>
>;o)
>
>"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote in message
>news:469a38a4@linux...
>>
>>
>> TC - Digital Konnekt x32
>> Digital router, sample rate converter and Firewire interface with a few
>> tricks.
>>
>> http://www.tcelectronic.com/Default.asp?Id=11321
>>
>> Price?
>>
>> Gene
>>
>
>I'll try this. I just fired up the system and all of my patches were intact,
but when I started to play back a project, all of the relative levels were
so out of whack that I just can't believe it. This isn't the phenomena where
you come back to a mix after a night's rest with fresh ears and hear it
differently. this is "drastic" shit.......some (but not all) of the tracks
with UAD-1 plugins and some (but not all) of the tracks with hardware
processors are doing it. If I can't get it back, I'm gonna have to just save
it, zero the mix, which will mean that my automation may need to be
shitcanned as welll. Luckily, I've got a couple of bounces that I can live
with (but am not entirely happy with) for this song. Nuendo 3 is looking
better and better.
"Neil" <IOUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:469a42eb$1@linux...
>
> Hey Deej, another thing I just thought of is: Did you ever try
> refreshing your VST connections? On my last PC I used to have
> to do this quite a bit, for no known reason (I still feel like
> it was a chipset issue - the PC before that one & the current
> one were & are both so rock-solid stable with the Cubase/RME
> combo. I just needed more power, Scotty!!! lol). Anyhoo - you
> know where I'm referring to, right? You go into the Devices
> submenu, you find your i/o listings & you hit "refresh" & if
> anything wasn't showing up upon your PC loading the drivers,
> it'll detect it & repopulate the list.
>
> IOW, if you had an external patch for a vocal compressor on
> channel 6 in & out on your Multiface, and it wasn't detecting
> that channel properly upon loading, then all of a sudden that
> piece of hardware would show up on the next available channel
> it DID detect. So let's say you had a Distressor on vox on the
> aforementioned channel six, and a dbx comp on the Multi's
> channel 7 on bass, and let's say for the sake of this example
> that ch six was the only channel that wasn't detected upon boot-
> up, it might bump the distressor up to channel 7 & the dbx comp
> up to channel 8! That would pretty much screw up your
> patching/routing assignments, esp if it were to do something
> screwy like detect ch 6's in put, but not the output, and ch
> 3's output, but not the input, and those both happened to be
> channels that you had external EFX routed through.
>
> Does this sound like what might possibly be happening in your
> case?
>
> Neil
>
>
>
> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>
>>You'll never crack the German logic. hehe
>>
>>Oh, If you want to link channels it will hose up the record enabling,
> so
>>you need to FIRST record enable the group of channels you want to link
>>(like
>>10 drums), THEN LINK them. Then it works fine so far ;-)
>>
>>If you don't do it that way then only some of the record enabled / linked
>>tracks will actually record.
>>
>>John
>I'm using two subs here. You've gotta be very careful about phase
cancellation. Two subs can = some wimpy gradoo if you're not careful. Mine
are 7.5' apart and are firing forward, not inward toward the sweet spot. I
can punch a hole through the back wall with the LF, which is exactly what I
need for recording acoustic guitars and banjos.
;oP
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:469a3c9e$1@linux...
>
> "Brad Lyons" <brad@audioandmidi.com> wrote:
>>
>>Yep! People say bass is non-directional and honestly, that just isn't
>>true.
>
> It may not be non-directional, but it carries so much energy,
> and with waveforms that have lengths of entire rooms or longer,
> it's "virtually" non-directional.
> Not saying that two subs might not be beneficial - I've never
> really mixed with a subwoofer, so I have no idea in that
> regard.
>
> NeilSince you can daisy chain the Konnekt interfaces via TCNear networking, and
this one has it as well, I would guess Konnekt 32 can as well, but the I
would wonder whether the firewire port can handle more than 16 in and out at
the same time.
Dedric
On 7/15/07 10:16 AM, in article 469a4843$1@linux, "Gene Lennon"
<glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>
> Funny, thatÂ’s the first question I had. That and price.
> Gene
>
> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>> Is it possible to daisy chain two of these?
>>
>> ;o)
>>
>> "Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote in message
>> news:469a38a4@linux...
>>>
>>>
>>> TC - Digital Konnekt x32
>>> Digital router, sample rate converter and Firewire interface with a few
>
>>> tricks.
>>>
>>> http://www.tcelectronic.com/Default.asp?Id=11321
>>>
>>> Price?
>>>
>>> Gene
>>>
>>
>>
>If the driver will suport two + units, it might be a monster with a
dedicated 4 x port FW PCIe card, especially if you can further
merge/interpatch within the software control panel. I'd probably look pretty
hard at this if the price was right. I'm currently doing pretty much what
this will do using 4 x Behringer SRC 2496 units along with an RME ADI4-DD
for real time SRC for two of my outboard reverbs and interpatching various
other I/O through a Frontier Apache and M-Audio C03 units to connect the
other digital processors, SMUX I/O of my converters and the I/O of my slave
computer with the free I/O of the master computer. It's a daunting scenario.
I have written an I/O sheet (small manual) for this that I have memorized
and the faceplates of the gear are all labelled as well. Same thing with all
of the midi I/O I have here. There's a lot of it and it is interpatched
through an Ensoniq KMX-16. This is only about half as insane as things were
when I was integrating Paris with the Cubase DAW. I watched the entire video
demo and this looks like they were reading my mind.....which may be why they
stopped before it got too complex and twisted....but there is no midi I/O on
this interface, is there? Didn't see any. That may be a show stopper. Does
anyone make a decent (large) midi interface now that Steinberg discontinued
the Midex?
;o)
"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message
news:C2BFAA72.B6CD%dterry@keyofd.net...
> Since you can daisy chain the Konnekt interfaces via TCNear networking,
> and
> this one has it as well, I would guess Konnekt 32 can as well, but the I
> would wonder whether the firewire port can handle more than 16 in and out
> at
> the same time.
>
> Dedric
>
> On 7/15/07 10:16 AM, in article 469a4843$1@linux, "Gene Lennon"
> <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Funny, that's the first question I had. That and price.
>> Gene
>>
>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>> Is it possible to daisy chain two of these?
>>>
>>> ;o)
>>>
>>> "Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote in message
>>> news:469a38a4@linux...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> TC - Digital Konnekt x32
>>>> Digital router, sample rate converter and Firewire interface with a few
>>
>>>> tricks.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.tcelectronic.com/Default.asp?Id=11321
>>>>
>>>> Price?
>>>>
>>>> Gene
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>Erling-
Bonnie got her new laptop with XP - so she should be able to do it the same
way you have.
thanks for the reply!
-steve
"erlilo" <erlilo@nospamonline.no> wrote:
>I'm not 100 % sure Steve, but I believe version 10 and 2003 are the same.
I
>have version 2003 and have used it since 2003 without problems to make
>backups of Win98/ME/XP on CD/DVD. But I'm using it only in Dos mode, not
>Windows at all. I don't think these "old" versions will work inside
>Vista(there's a new version for that, called Ghost Solution Suite), but
if
>you make a Dos Ghost floppydiskette from an installed Windows 98/ME/XP
>version, I believe you can use it to make backups of Vista too(if there
is a
>floppy disk station in the laptop). But allways remember to check if the
>burning is OK. There is a menu for that too in Dos mode.
>Say hello to Bonnie:-)
>
>Erling
>
>"steve the artguy" <artguy@somethingorother.net> skrev i melding
>news:46993c41$1@linux...
>>
>> Hello, collected wisdom of the Paris world-
>>
>> My best friend Bonnie just got her new IBM laptop. She bought Norton Ghost
>> but has never used it, wanting to wait until her new laptop arrived and
>> she
>> could make a clean install without it ever having been on the internet.
>> So,
>> she's ready.
>>
>> Ghost thing has two versions, 10 and 2003. Which should she use? I've
>> heard
>> (can't remember where) that older versions of Ghost were better than the
>> newest one, which I assume is 10.
>>
>> I just read all the old Paris posts mentioning Ghost, and
>> http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/
>> is mentioned. Looks like a good thing. The reference to it said it works
>> with Ghost 8. This seems to be no longer availiable.
>>
>> Any suggestions, ideas, etc? Bonnie's ready to do something...
>>
>> -steve the mostly mac guy
>>
>> (Although I have an XP machine, and I think now I'm going to try that
>> http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/
>> thing myself...)
>>
>
>On a Mac you can aggregate PCI(e) and Firewire interfaces to build one large
I/O system. Is this possible under XP?
Gene
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>If the driver will suport two + units, it might be a monster with a
>dedicated 4 x port FW PCIe card, especially if you can further
>merge/interpatch within the software control panel. I'd probably look pretty
>hard at this if the price was right. I'm currently doing pretty much what
>this will do using 4 x Behringer SRC 2496 units along with an RME ADI4-DD
>for real time SRC for two of my outboard reverbs and interpatching various
>other I/O through a Frontier Apache and M-Audio C03 units to connect the
>other digital processors, SMUX I/O of my converters and the I/O of my slave
>computer with the free I/O of the master computer. It's a daunting scenario.
>I have written an I/O sheet (small manual) for this that I have memorized
>and the faceplates of the gear are all labelled as well. Same thing with
all
>of the midi I/O I have here. There's a lot of it and it is interpatched
>through an Ensoniq KMX-16. This is only about half as insane as things
were
>when I was integrating Paris with the Cubase DAW. I watched the entire video
>demo and this looks like they were reading my mind.....which may be why
they
>stopped before it got too complex and twisted....but there is no midi I/O
on
>this interface, is there? Didn't see any. That may be a show stopper. Does
>anyone make a decent (large) midi interface now that Steinberg discontinued
>the Midex?
>
>;o)
>
>
>"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message
>news:C2BFAA72.B6CD%dterry@keyofd.net...
>> Since you can daisy chain the Konnekt interfaces via TCNear networking,
>> and
>> this one has it as well, I would guess Konnekt 32 can as well, but the
I
>> would wonder whether the firewire port can handle more than 16 in and
out
>> at
>> the same time.
>>
>> Dedric
>>
>> On 7/15/07 10:16 AM, in article 469a4843$1@linux, "Gene Lennon"
>> <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Funny, that's the first question I had. That and price.
>>> Gene
>>>
>>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>> Is it possible to daisy chain two of these?
>>>>
>>>> ;o)
>>>>
>>>> "Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:469a38a4@linux...<
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> =20
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what=20
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=
></DIV><BR>>&l t;DIV><FONT=3D20 <BR>>  =
; =20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>In any event I scaled down =
to one=20
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=3D3D<BR>>(Pretty sure=3D3D20<BR>>that's card=20
A=3D20<BR>> > =20
right?!!!)</FONT></DIV><B R>><DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =
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size=3D3D3D2>even=20
internal clock was never found =
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>nor<BR>=3D3D<BR>> were=3D20 <BR>> &n=
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>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =
> =20
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>a<BR>=3D3D<BR>>ch amp=3D20 <BR>> &nb=
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>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =
> =20
size=3D3D3D2>either all my Mecs are screwy now or=20
=3D3D<BR>>the=3D20<BR>> =
> =20
SCSI=3D3D20<BR>>cables are intermitant=20
at=3D20<BR>> > =20
best.</FONT></DIV><BR& ;gt;><DIV><FONT=20
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>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =
> =20
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today.</FONT></DIV><BR&am p;gt;><DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =
> =20
size=3D3D3D2>I'll add my EDS cards one by one and =
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| Re: This is how FU'ed the US healthcare system is [message #87094 is a reply to message #87086] |
Sat, 23 June 2007 19:39 |
Bill L
Messages: 766
Registered: August 2006
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card<BR>> in=20
your system as far as Paris' =
ID=3D20<BR> > =2 0
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------=_NextPart_000_004D_01C7C72D.82C0D600--I have a ProFire Lightbridge. I use it for all kinds of stuff including Pro
Tools-M where it does give 34X34 up to 48K, or 18X18 at 96 (PT 7.3.1). It
has a headphone out but it only chases SPDIF out. Latency goes down to 256,
but I never use it for cutting…only mixing where I may use it in PT or aggregate
it into my main I/O for sends to and from Paris or a V-stack PC. It has no
internal direct monitor system or any internal mixing. I have not had any
of the clock issues talked about at Gearslutz. It makes PT-M a viable alternative
to HD if you are mixing analog and it has been a good purchase for me coming
in handy many times. It does work with the Core Audio Aggregation tool along
with my MOTU PCIe rig.
Gene
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Hey Dedric, I have no experience with the Pro Fire Lightbridge. I was following
>the user reports on gear slutz awhile back. Most reports were good, but
>someone didn't like something about the way the monitoring is set up, or
>some thing. You might want to read up on those threads. Also, early on,
>some didn't like that there are only 18 I/O available in PT. They may have
>changed this by now. All other software can utilize all of the I/Os, such
>as Nuendo, Cubase, etc.
>
>"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com>
>>Newsgroups: IDEA.EMUEnsoniqPARIS
>>Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 5:35 PM
>>Subject: Re: DJ and people with complex setups
>>>
>>> I don't think it's FW, the Pro Fire Light bridge will do 34x36.
>>> http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/ProFireLightbridge-mai n.html
>>
>>Hi James - Any experiences with this unit to report (drivers, latency,
>>integration with PCI audio cards)? M-Audio never had a great rep for
>>drivers and quality, but I know Lamont gave it a thumbs up, so it seems
>
>>worth considering. I could use an extra 4 lightpipe ports. I've been
>>reluctant to put as much weight on firewire as PCI/PCIe so far, but would
>
>>like to be able to implement something like this.
>>
>>Regards,
>>Dedric
>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>>>> If the driver will suport two + units, it might be a monster with
a
>>>>>> dedicated 4 x port FW PCIe card, especially if you can further
>>>>>> merge/interpatch within the software control panel. I'd probably look
>>> pretty
>>>>>
>>>>>> hard at this if the price was right. I'm currently doing pretty much
>>> what
>>>>>
>>>>>> this will do using 4 x Behringer SRC 2496 units along with an RME
>>>>>> ADI4-DD
>>>>>
>>>>>> for real time SRC for two of my outboard reverbs and interpatching
>
>>>>>> various
>>>>>
>>>>>> other I/O through a Frontier Apache and M-Audio C03 units to connect
>>> the
>>>>>
>>>>>> other digital processors, SMUX I/O of my converters and the I/O of
>my
>>> slave
>>>>>
>>>>>> computer with the free I/O of the master computer. It's a daunting
>
>>>>>> scenario.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have written an I/O sheet (small manual) for this that I have
>>>>>> memorized
>>>>>
>>>>>> and the faceplates of the gear are all labelled as well. Same thing
>
>>>>>> with
>>>>> all
>>>>>> of the midi I/O I have here. There's a lot of it and it is interpatched
>>>>>
>>>>>> through an Ensoniq KMX-16. This is only about half as insane as things
>>>>> were
>>>>>> when I was integrating Paris with the Cubase DAW. I watched the entire
>>> video
>>>>>
>>>>>> demo and this looks like they were reading my mind.....which may be
>why
>>>>> they
>>>>>> stopped before it got too complex and twisted....but there is no midi
>>> I/O
>>>>> on
>>>>>> this interface, is there? Didn't see any. That may be a show stopper.
>>> Does
>>>>>
>>>>>> anyone make a decent (large) midi interface now that Steinberg
>>>>>> discontinued
>>>>>
>>>>>> the Midex?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ;o)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:C2BFAA72.B6CD%dterry@keyofd.net...
>>>>>>> Since you can daisy chain the Konnekt interfaces via TCNear
>>>>>>> networking,
>>>>>
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> this one has it as well, I would guess Konnekt 32 can as well, but
>the
>>>>> I
>>>>>>> would wonder whether the firewire port can handle more than 16 in
>and
>>>>> out
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>> the same time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dedric
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 7/15/07 10:16 AM, in article 469a4843$1@linux, "Gene Lennon"
>>>>>>> <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Funny, that's the first question I had. That and price.
>>>>>>>> Gene
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Is it possible to daisy chain two of these?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ;o)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:469a38a4@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> TC - Digital Konnekt x32
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| Re: This is how FU'ed the US healthcare system is [message #87136 is a reply to message #87094] |
Sun, 24 June 2007 18:27 |
chuck duffy
Messages: 453
Registered: July 2005
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a href="mailto:46972376@linux..." target="_blank">46972376@linux...<BR>> This is really a =3D
> > > >novice oriented=3D20
> > > > question but . . .<BR>> It doesn't matter which card
> is the =3D
> > > >"A"=3D20
> > > > card<BR>> in your system as far as Paris' ID
> orientation=3D20
> > > > right?<BR>><BR>> Yes, it does, and the orientation of
> the =3D
> > > >slots=3D20
> > > > you are using in =3D3D<BR>>combination with the
> orientation
> > of the
> > =
> > >=3D
> > > >ribbon=3D20
> > > > cables will determine =3D3D<BR>>this. Have you changed
> them
> > around
> > =
> > >=3D
> > > >during your=3D20
> > > > reconfiguration?<BR>><BR>> Start with a new SCSI cable
> and =3D
> > > >a=3D20
> > > > single EDS card. Test each MEC. Once<BR>=3D3D<BR>>you
> know if
> > there
> > =
> > >=3D
> > > >is a=3D20
> > > > problem there, add a new SCSI cable and another
> > =3D3D<BR>>card. Put
> > =
> > >=3D
> > > >different=3D20
> > > > modules in the MECs so you can see which one is on
> > =3D3D<BR>>card =
> > >A, =3D
> > > >B, C at=3D20
> > > > all times. this will give you the info as to how the =
> > >=3D3D<BR>>cards =3D
> > > >are=3D20
> > > > initializing and which card is card A, B, C as you
> start =3D
> > > >=3D3D<BR>>adding more=3D20
> > > > hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that were
> working =3D
> > > >=3D3D<BR>>perfectly=3D20
> > > > when I took my system off line. I can't imagine it
> being a =3D
> > > >=3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D20
> > > > Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue
> though. Your =3D
> > > >=3D3D<BR>>system=3D20
> > > > will not function with bad SCSI
> cables.<BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE =3D
> > > >HTML=3D20
> > > > PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=3D20
> > > > Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=3D20
> > > > http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type
> content=3D3D3D"text/html;=3D20
> > > > =3D3D<BR>>charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =3D
> > > >content=3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D20
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> > > >D><BR>><BODY=3D20
> > > > bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
> > > > dir=3D3D3Dltr=3D3D20<BR>>style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT:
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> > >PADDING-LEFT: =3D
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> > > > MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px
> solid; =3D
> > > >MARGIN-RIGHT:=3D20
> > > > 0px"><BR>> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > > > size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> <DIV>"Tom =3D
> > > >Bruhl"=3D20
> > > > <<A=3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > > > =3D
> > > =
> >
> >>href=3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arp=
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> > > >o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=3D20
> > > > wrote =3D3D<BR>>in message=3D3D20<BR>> <A
> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > > > =3D
> > > =
> >
> >>href=3D3D'news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:469=
> > >723=3D
> > > >76@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>>&nbs=3D
> > > >p;=3D20
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>This is
> really a =3D
> > > >novice oriented=3D20
> > > > =3D3D<BR>>question but . .=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > > .</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D
> > > >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > > > size=3D3D3D2>It doesn't matter which card is the =3D
> > > >=3D3D<BR>>"A"=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > > card</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D
> > > >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > > > size=3D3D3D2>in your system as far as Paris' ID=3D20
> > > > =3D3D<BR>>orientation=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > > right?</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D
> > > >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > > > size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =3D
> > > ><DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Yes, it does, and
> > the =3D
> > > >orientation=3D20
> > > > of<BR>=3D3D<BR>>the slots=3D3D20<BR>> you are using in =3D
> > > >combination with=3D20
> > > > the orientation of the ribbon=3D3D20<BR>> cables will
> > determine =3D
> > > >this.=3D20
> > > > Have you changed them around during
> > =3D3D<BR>>your=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> > > >
> > > > reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
> > > ><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > > > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Start with a new
> > SCSI =3D
> > > >cable and a=3D20
> > > > =3D3D<BR>>single EDS=3D3D20<BR>> card. Test each MEC. Once
> > you =3D
> > > >know if=3D20
> > > > there is a problem there, add a<BR>=3D3D<BR>>new =3D
> > > >SCSI=3D3D20<BR>> cable=3D20
> > > > and another card. Put different modules in the MECs so you
> > can =3D
> > > >=3D3D<BR>>see=3D20
> > > > which=3D3D20<BR>> one is on card A, B, C at all times.
> this =3D
> > > >will give you=3D20
> > > > the info =3D3D<BR>>as to=3D3D20<BR>> how the cards are =3D
> > > >initializing and=3D20
> > > > which card is card A, B, C as you
> =3D3D<BR>>start=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> > > >adding more=3D20
> > > > hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that were=3D20
> > > > working<BR>=3D3D<BR>><BR>> perfectly when I took my
> system =3D
> > > >off line. I=3D20
> > > > can't imagine it being a
> =3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D3D20<BR>> Bent =3D
> > > >pins on SCSI=3D20
> > > > cables can be a serious issue though. Your system =
> > >=3D3D<BR>>will=3D20
> > > > not=3D3D20<BR>> function with bad SCSI=3D20
> > > > =3D
> > > >=3D3D<BR>>cables.</FONT></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>=3D
> > > >;</BODY></HTML><BR>><BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
> > > ><DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam
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> > >spam, =3D
> > > >and=3D20
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> > > =
> >
> >>href=3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re
> <http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re>
> >
> <http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re
> <http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re>>=
> > >fer=3D
> > > >.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> > ><HTML><HEAD>
> > ><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
> > >charset=3Diso-8859-1">
> > ><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3DGENERATOR>
> > ><STYLE></STYLE>
> > ></HEAD>
> > ><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hey Rod,</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hiding the default project
> didn't
> > help=20
> > >anything. I've never</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>had 2.?? installed on this
> comp
> > so I =
> > >think I'm safe=20
> > >there regarding</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>drivers.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am only able to
> intermitantly
> > get the
> > =
> > >442 working=20
> > >as the master.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think that's do to the
> scsi cable =
> > >issue. I=20
> > >need four new ones.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am unable to get more
> than one
> > EDS =
> > >card working=20
> > >WITH the 442.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Not sure why. The ribbons
> are all =
> > >wired=20
> > >correctly.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm off to a hellish gigging =
> > >weekend. No more=20
> > >time for hell in Paris.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for all your
> > input,</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> > ><BLOCKQUOTE=20
> > >style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px;
> MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
> > >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > > <DIV>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=20
> > > =
> >
> >href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g
> <mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g>
> >
> <mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g
> <mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g>>=
> > >t;=20
> > > wrote in message <A=20
> > >
> >
> href=3D"news:4697ab8a@linux">news:4697ab8a@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Did
> <news:4697ab8a@linux">news:4697ab8a@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Did>
> > <news:4697ab8a@linux">news:4697ab8a@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Did
> <news:4697ab8a@linux">news:4697ab8a@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Did>> =
> > >you try=20
> > > hiding the default ppj to see if it would boot up with a
> MEC =
> > >when<BR>creating=20
> > > a new session? <BR>Rod<BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
> > >
> href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
> <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20>
> > <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
> <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20>>
> > > wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Guys,<BR>>I'm all set with the cables =
> > >and the=20
> > > which card is A bit.<BR>>Rod you were right about what I
> was=20
> > > asking.<BR>><BR>>In any event I scaled down to one EDS
> (Pretty =
> > >sure=20
> > > that's card A =3D<BR>>right?!!!)<BR>>and plugged it into
> each of =
> > >my two=20
> > > working Mecs. Paris will boot but<BR>>even internal clock
> was =
> > >never=20
> > > found nor were the in/outs on each Mec.<BR>>The 442 on
> the other =
> > >hand works=20
> > > like a champ one card only. I suspect<BR>>either all my
> Mecs =
> > >are=20
> > > screwy now or the SCSI cables are intermitant =
> > >at<BR>=3D<BR>>best.<BR>>It's=20
> > > working fine with the 442 so I'm sticking with that for =
> > >today.<BR>>I'll add=20
> > > my EDS cards one by one and see if that is back to=20
> > > normal.<BR>><BR>>Thanks for the help and if I need scsi
> cables =
> > >what and=20
> > > where to buy them<BR>=3D<BR>>would be good info
> too.<BR>>Mr=20
> > > Testy<BR>> "Rod Lincoln" <<A=20
> > > =
> >
> >href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g
> <mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g>
> >
> <mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g
> <mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g>>=
> > >t;=20
> > > wrote in message =
> > >=3D<BR>>news:469780ce$1@linux...<BR>><BR>> I=20
> > > think Tom was asking if there was a "3.0" version of the
> EDS card=20
> > > =3D<BR>>that needed<BR>> to be connected to the master. =
> > >The answer=20
> > > to that would be no.=3D20<BR>> Is this what you were
> asking=20
> > > Tom?<BR>> DJ's advice is very important though. I would do =
> > >it, if you=20
> > > haven't =3D<BR>>already.<BR>> I don't want to sound like a =
> > >"RTFM"=20
> > > kind of guy, but the Paris =
> > >manual<BR>=3D<BR>>describes<BR>> this=20
> > > procedure pretty well.<BR>> It's on page 4 and 5 of the
> 3.0=20
> > > version.<BR>> It kind of sounds to me like you may not be =
> > >hooking up=20
> > > the correct eds<BR>=3D<BR>>card<BR>> to the master=20
> > > mec.<BR>> Rod<BR>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ =
> > >dot _=20
> > > net> wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> =20
> > > ><BR>> > "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
> > >
> href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A
> <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>
> > <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A
> <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>>> wrote =
> > >in message=20
> > > =3D3D<BR>> >news:46972376@linux...<BR>> =
> > >> This is=20
> > > really a novice oriented question but . . .<BR>> > =
> > >It=20
> > > doesn't matter which card is the "A" card<BR>> > in =
> > >your=20
> > > system as far as Paris' ID orientation right?<BR>> =
> > >><BR>> =20
> > > > Yes, it does, and the orientation of the slots you are =
> > >using in=20
> > > =3D3D<BR>> >combination with the orientation of the ribbon =
> > >cables=20
> > > will determine<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >this. Have you =
> > >changed them=20
> > > around during your reconfiguration?<BR>> ><BR>> =20
> > > > Start with a new SCSI cable and a single EDS card. Test =
> > >each MEC.=20
> > > =3D<BR>>Once<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> >you know if =
> > >there is a=20
> > > problem there, add a new SCSI cable and =3D<BR>>another =
> > >=3D3D<BR>> =20
> > > >card. Put different modules in the MECs so you can see
> which one =
> > >is=20
> > > =3D<BR>>on =3D3D<BR>> >card A, B, C at all times. this =
> > >will give=20
> > > you the info as to how the<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >cards =
> > >are=20
> > > initializing and which card is card A, B, C as you start=20
> > > =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >adding more hardware. the MEC i =
> > >sent you is one=20
> > > of 4 that were =3D<BR>>working =3D3D<BR>> >perfectly =
> > >when I took my=20
> > > system off line. I can't imagine it being =
> > >a<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =20
> > > >problem. Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue
> though.=20
> > > Your<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >system will not function =
> > >with bad SCSI=20
> > > cables.<BR>> ><BR>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC=20
> > > "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"><BR>> =20
> > > ><HTML><HEAD><BR>> ><META=20
> > > http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html; =
> > >=3D3D<BR>> =20
> > > >charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>> ><META =
> > >content=3D3D3D"MSHTML=20
> > > 6.00.6000.16414" name=3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>> =20
> > > ><STYLE></STYLE><BR>> =
> > >></HEAD><BR>> =20
> > > ><BODY bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>> =
> > >><BLOCKQUOTE=20
> > > dir=3D3D3Dltr=3D3D20<BR>> >style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: =
> > >0px;=20
> > > PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =20
> > > >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: =
> > >0px"><BR>> =20
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
> > >size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
> > > </DIV><BR>> > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl"=20
> > > <<A=3D3D20<BR>> > href=3D3D3D"<A=20
> > > =
> >
> >href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
> > >o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=20
> > > =3D<BR>>wrote =3D3D<BR>> >in =
> > >message=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
> > > <A href=3D3D3D"<A=20
> > > =
> >
> >href=3D'news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:469723=
> > >76@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>>&nbs=
> > >p;=20
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>This =
> > >is really a=20
> > > novice =3D<BR>>oriented =3D3D<BR>> >question but .=20
> > > .=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> > >.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>It =
> > >doesn't matter=20
> > > which card =3D<BR>>is the =3D3D<BR>> =
> > >>"A"=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> > > > card</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>in your system as =
> > >far as=20
> > > =3D<BR>>Paris' ID =3D3D<BR>> =
> > >>orientation=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> > > > right?</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
> > > </DIV><BR>> > <DIV><BR>> =
> > >> =20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Yes, it does, and =
> > >the=20
> > > =3D<BR>>orientation of<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> >the=20
> > > slots=3D3D20<BR>> > you are using in combination =
> > >with the=20
> > > orientation of the =3D<BR>>ribbon=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> > >cables will=20
> > > determine this. Have you changed them around during =
> > >=3D3D<BR>> =20
> > > >your=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
> > > reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
> > > </DIV><BR>> > <DIV><FONT =
> > >face=3D3D3DArial=20
> > > size=3D3D3D2>Start with a new SCSI cable =3D<BR>>and a =
> > >=3D3D<BR>> =20
> > > >single EDS=3D3D20<BR>> > card. Test each MEC. =
> > >Once you=20
> > > know if there is a problem there, add<BR>=3D<BR>>a<BR>> =20
> > > =3D3D<BR>> >new SCSI=3D3D20<BR>> > cable =
> > >and another=20
> > > card. Put different modules in the MECs so you =3D<BR>>can =
> > >=3D3D<BR>> =20
> > > >see which=3D3D20<BR>> > one is on card A, B, C =
> > >at all=20
> > > times. this will give you the info =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =
> > >>as=20
> > > to=3D3D20<BR>> > how the cards are initializing and =
> > >which card=20
> > > is card A, B, C as =3D<BR>>you =3D3D<BR>> =
> > >>start=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> > > > adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that =
> > >were=20
> > > =3D<BR>>working<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> =
> > >><BR>> > =20
> > > perfectly when I took my system off line. I can't imagine
> it=20
> > > being<BR>=3D<BR>>a =3D3D<BR>> =
> > >>problem.=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> > > > Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue though. =
> > >Your=20
> > > system<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >will =
> > >not=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> > > > function with bad SCSI =3D3D<BR>> =20
> > > =
> > >>cables.</FONT></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></B=
> > >ODY></HTML><BR>> =20
> > > ><BR>> ><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>I choose =
> > >Polesoft=20
> > > Lockspam to fight spam, and=20
> > > you?<BR>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
> > > <BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=20
> > > Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=20
> > > http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html;=20
> > > =3D<BR>>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =
> > >content=3D3D"MSHTML=20
> > > 6.00.2800.1400"=20
> > > =
> > >name=3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=
> > >D><BR>><BODY=20
> > > bgColor=3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
> > > =
> > >size=3D3D2>Guys,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> > > face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm all set with the cables and
> the =
> > >=3D<BR>>which=20
> > > card is =
> > >A=3D20<BR>>bit.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> > > face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Rod you were right about what I=20
> > > =
> > >was=3D20<BR>>asking.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FO=
> > >NT=20
> > > face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> =
> > ></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> > > face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>In any event I scaled down to
> one EDS=20
> > > =3D<BR>>(Pretty sure=3D20<BR>>that's card A=20
> > > right?!!!)</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
> > >face=3D3DArial=20
> > > size=3D3D2>and plugged it into each of my two=20
> > > =3D<BR>>working=3D20<BR>>Mecs. Paris will boot=20
> > > but</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
> > >
> > > size=3D3D2>even internal clock was never found =
> > >nor<BR>=3D<BR>>were=20
> > > the=3D20<BR>>in/outs on each=20
> > > Mec.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
> > >face=3D3DArial=20
> > > size=3D3D2>The 442 on the other hand works like =
> > >a<BR>=3D<BR>>champ=20
> > > one=3D20<BR>>card only. I=20
> > > suspect</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
> > >face=3D3DArial=20
> > > size=3D3D2>either all my Mecs are screwy now or
> =3D<BR>>the=20
> > > SCSI=3D2
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Sun, 24 June 2007 20:21 |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
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ent monitors and were blown
quite easily. Also the sound was muddy on bottom and thin on top.
Focal: Recommended by Dave. I don't anything about this company. I can
not find any data.
Mackie: Not my 1st choice but if someone has positive/negative feedback,
I'd appreciate it. From what I've recently learned about my 1604vlz (upper
mid harshness and lower mid muddyness) I'm uncomfortable about them and I'm
not sure I want Mackie speakers.
I'm really looking to stay at the $999 price range for a pair of active 6".
I would like zero colorization and a large sweet spot if possible. Anybody
using any of the above? I'm leaning towards the Adams but only because of
Brad. I'm sure I won't be able to listen to many of the above monitors.
I may get lucky on one/maybe two at best. I'm relying heavily on the inputs
I recieve from this newsgroup. I too am quite "anal" about sound. I want
it clean, clear, deep and rich. I think I can mix it if I get true
reference monitors.
Thanks.
Wayne Carson
Paris user since '97Wayne - I have the BM5As (I reviewed them for audiomidi.com
http://www.audiomidi.com/aboutus/reviews/terry_bm5a.cfm - note this is the
BM5A, not the compact).
The Dynaudios are great monitors - picked them over Events, Mackies HRs and
a few others. They are very clear/transparent, with a wide image and good
bass response, though for serious bass, the BM9S or 10S is a good idea (it
will crossover feed the BM5As in a standard stereo monitoring config nicely
if you aren't running separate bass management and I/O).
I haven't heard the Adam A7's, but have heard great things about them -
probably worth listening to if you can. I haven't heard them in a critical
situation, but in passing the Event Studio Precision 8s seemed better than I
remembered from other Events (but $650/each).
Of that list I would probably pick either the Dynaudios or Adams, but would
listen to both if possible.
Regards,
Dedric
On 7/15/07 9:13 PM, in article 469ae3a9@linux, "Wayne Carson"
<carson_wayne@msn.com> wrote:
> My current system monitors. Yamaha NS-10M Studio.
>
> Here's what in play. All active, bi-amp'd, 6"woofers/1"tweeties.
>
> JBL LSR4326p $999pr includes cal mic
>
> Adam A7 $999pr
>
> DynAudio BM5A $999pr
>
> Event ASP6 $999pr
>
> Focal Twin6
>
> Mackie HR824 $1200pr
>
> I picked these monitors from the Sweetwater catalog. My concerns:
>
> JBL: My experience with main PA JBL's is an overbrightness/bite to the
> horns. This may not apply to studio monitors. It does have a calibration
> mic to set the speakers to the room
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