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| Re: Nice For Studios Am I missing somthing? [message #64835 is a reply to message #64830] |
Thu, 23 February 2006 07:30   |
Dominic
Messages: 12 Registered: March 2006
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ol.
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> Highly recommended for anyone who needs a VSTi piano.
>
>
>
>
> DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >Once you get your optimum velocity curve dialed in, you're gonna be
grinnin
> >like a cheshire cat.
> >
> >;o)
> >
> >"Phil Aiken" <paiken@partners.org> wrote in message
news:442e00d7$1@linux...
> >>
> >> Just now finished installing it on my Receptor for live use. I'll be
> >firing
> >> it up tomorrow morning - can't wait!!!
> >>
> >>
> >> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >> >I've had an absolutely wonderful pianist over here for a session
tonight
> >> >doing some cover tunes. He's got a Yamaha controller with some nice
piano
> >> >sounds and was pretty leery of using a VSTi so we started out using
his
> >> >keyboard DI'ed. I also midi'ed him up to Ivory and started tracking
both
> >> >Ivory and the Yammy into Paris. Then I A/B'ed the tracks for him and
> >after
> >> >about an hour I couldn't get the guy to stay focused on the session he
> >was
> >> >so wrapped up in it. Luckily, the artist who hired him was pretty
> >forgiving
> >> >of the waste of session time and we got to enjoy some pretty inspired
> >> >noodling around...............on the clock of course. I'd say the
session
> >> >went 3 hours over because of Ivory so it came close to paying for
itself
> >> in
> >> >one gig.
> >> >
> >> >This VSTi is truly amazing in the hands of a great player with a great
> >> >controller. I forget which Yamaha controller he was using, but it was
> an
> >> >older one with fully weighted keys and complemented Ivory to a tee.
> >> >
> >> >(yawn......off to bed now..........ta!)
> >> >
> >> >;o).
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >
> >Microsoft Buys OpenOffice.org!
http://www.openoffice.org/40GB flash drives? how much is that like 5 grand?
"brandon" <a@a.com> wrote in message news:442ee46c@linux...
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> Hello all,
>
> I was wondering how advancements in flash memory have come.
> Is it feesable to get a couple of flash drives..40gb etc..
> and load windows XP on it and boot from it (run paris from it)
> and stream audio from another flash drive?
>
> Speed, reliablity, benefits?????
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brandongood for open office though...
open office is shite IMO
"James " <no@noway.com> wrote in message news:442ef7b5$1@linux...
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> Microsoft Buys OpenOffice.org!
>
> http://www.openoffice.org/
>
>HI James,
You should try reading the Full Press Release.
;)
Chris
James wrote:
> Microsoft Buys OpenOffice.org!
>
> http://www.openoffice.org/
>
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762LOL!
"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
news:442efb60@linux...
> HI James,
> You should try reading the Full Press Release.
> ;)
> Chris
>
>
> James wrote:
>> Microsoft Buys OpenOffice.org!
>>
>> http://www.openoffice.org/
>>
>>
>
> --
> Chris Ludwig
> ADK
> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
> (859) 635-5762Today at the White House in a top level meeting, Donald Rumsfeld showed up
a few minutes late. President Bush says to Rumsfeld What's the news Donald?
Rumsfeld replies, we lost three Brazilian soldiers in Iraq today. Bush
throws his face in to his hands and starts to sob. The room gets silent.
Bush looks up and says, Just exactly how many is three brazilian soldiers?Not really sure, but I'm guessing you would probably divide them all into
pairs.
"James" <no@noway.com> wrote:
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>Today at the White House in a top level meeting, Donald Rumsfeld showed
up
>a few minutes late. President Bush says to Rumsfeld What's the news Donald?
> Rumsfeld replies, we lost three Brazilian soldiers in Iraq today. Bush
>throws his face in to his hands and starts to sob. The room gets silent.
> Bush looks up and says, Just exactly how many is three brazilian soldiers?
>
>Can you even boot from a flash drive???
Just a thought... you can (in most BIOS) choose a CD-R/DVD
dri
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| Re: Nice For Studios Am I missing somthing? [message #64836 is a reply to message #64835] |
Thu, 23 February 2006 07:11   |
Rohde Wakefield
 Messages: 11 Registered: December 2005
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ve or a USB CD-R/DVD drive as your fist boot drive... what
about the feasibility of loading a bootable XP-OS CD-R, if
you're looking for something along those lines?
You'd set your BIOS preferences to boot the a-Drive first, CD-
R/DVD drive 2nd, then your C-drive 3rd... if there wasn't a
bootable CD in the floppy or CD-R/DVD drive, then it would just
boot into the OS you normally have it set up on your C-drive.
What are you trying to achieve with this setup, more
importantly? Maybe a simple dual-boot hard drive setup would be
best.
Neil
>Hello all,
>
>I was wondering how advancements in flash memory have come.
>Is it feesable to get a couple of flash drives..40gb etc..
>and load windows XP on it and boot from it (run paris from it)
>and stream audio from another flash drive?
>
>Speed, reliablity, benefits?????
>
>Thanks,
>
>Brandon"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>Hey, I'm not the shepard...that's Rick...I think. I'm the drummer.
No? That isn't your new spinoff band, Shooting Shepherds?
:)DAMN! Check the low end on that Bosie!
I've always thought a Bosendorfer is like a heavy metal
piano... really scooped mids with exaggerated lo's & hi's.
Neil
"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>For those interested in hearing the demos:
>
>http://www.ilio.com/synthogy/ivory/index.html
>
>AA
>
>"Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote in message news:442edfda$1@linux...
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>>
>> I'm dying to check that out!
>> When can I come over?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Phil Aiken" <paiken@partners.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>You're right.
>>>It's very cool.
>>>Runs like a freakin' champ on Receptor - something that can't be said
of
>>>large piano libraries using Kontakt II and streaming from disc.
>>>So far there are piano libraries I prefer the sound of, but Ivory is just
>>>so playable, so expressive, and easy to customize sound-wise, if not
>>>sample-wise.
>>>I've been noodling all day. At first the Steinway was my least fave...now
>>>it is my favorite - go figure.
>>>Wish list:
>>> Better in mono.
>>> Half-pedaling.
>>> An upright piano would be cool.
>>>
>>>Highly recommended for anyone who needs a VSTi piano.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>>>Once you get your optimum velocity curve dialed in, you're gonna be
>>>>grinnin
>>>>like a cheshire cat.
>>>>
>>>>;o)
>>>>
>>>>"Phil Aiken" <paiken@partners.org> wrote in message
>>>>news:442e00d7$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> Just now finished installing it on my Receptor for live use. I'll be
>>>>firing
>>>>> it up tomorrow morning - can't wait!!!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>>>> >I've had an absolutely wonderful pianist over here for a session
>>>>> >tonight
>>>>> >doing some cover tunes. He's got a Yamaha controller with some nice
>> piano
>>>>> >sounds and was pretty leery of using a VSTi so we started out using
>> his
>>>>> >keyboard DI'ed. I also midi'ed him up to Ivory and started tracking
>> both
>>>>> >Ivory and the Yammy into Paris. Then I A/B'ed the tracks for him
and
>>>>after
>>>>> >about an hour I couldn't get the guy to stay focused on the session
>> he
>>>>was
>>>>> >so wrapped up in it. Luckily, the artist who hired him was pretty
>>>>forgiving
>>>>> >of the waste of session time and we got to enjoy some pretty inspired
>>>>> >noodling around...............on the clock of course. I'd say the
>>>>> >session
>>>>> >went 3 hours over because of Ivory so it came close to paying for
>>>>> >itself
>>>>> in
>>>>> >one gig.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >This VSTi is truly amazing in the hands of a great player with a great
>>>>> >controller. I forget which Yamaha controller he was using, but it
was
>>>an
>>>>> >older one with fully weighted keys and complemented Ivory to a tee.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >(yawn......off to bed now..........ta!)
>>>>> >
>>>>> >;o).
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
>
>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>
>8oP
"Neil" <IUOIU@OI.com> wrote:
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>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hey, I'm not the shepard...that's Rick...I think. I'm the drummer.
>
>No? That isn't your new spinoff band, Shooting Shepherds?
>
>:)I've been A/B'ing some mixes here, comparing the sonics of flying the tracks
across the digital matrix from Cubase SX to Paris and having a bunch of
UAD-1 plugins inserted as opposed to inserting analogue gear into a straight
Paris mix. I'm definitely leaning toward the Paris/analogue mix. Even with
all of the processing power available and having the Paris summing bus,
something about the hybrid mix just sound smaller. Maybe it's the truncation
that happens when 40+ tracks that are being processed at 32 bit in SX are
flown over a 20 bit ADAT pipe. I dunno
I know there are lots of advantages to having the editing power of SX and I
did use it a lot in my
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| Re: Nice For Studios [message #64837 is a reply to message #64825] |
Thu, 23 February 2006 08:21   |
Pete Ruthenburg
 Messages: 127 Registered: June 2005
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last project. As far as plugins go, I'm getting
something that suits me just fine using analog processors in Paris. Are they
emulations of LA-2A's or 1176's.......well nooooo.........but I've got a
couple of Distressors, a couple of RNC's which output at +4 and are balanced
with 1:1 Jensen and Cinemags.They sound great and the comps in my Avalon
737, Meek VC-1, Forssell CS-1 and Focusrite RED7 channel strips do a good
job inserted on tracks, plus there's an SPL Transient designer for kick, an
SPL de-esser and an old TL Audio tube EQ here. Patching this stuff into a
mix just seems to bring it to life in a way I'm not hearing in a hybrid mix.
Add the Paris plugs and it's a pretty decent mix arsenal. If I sold 3 x
UAD-1 cards and my HDSP 9652's, I could likely afford another nice
compressor or two.........maybe an ELOP or something.
Actually, I really wouldn't mind having two more Distressors. I may just do
this. The only thing I'm gonna miss is instant recall, but hell, I've got a
damn digital camera around here somewhere.
I think I've given the monster hybrid DAW thing a fair chance.
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| Re: Nice For Studios Am I missing somthing? [message #64840 is a reply to message #64835] |
Thu, 23 February 2006 07:46   |
EK Sound
 Messages: 939 Registered: June 2005
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.They sound great and the comps in my Avalon
> > 737, Meek VC-1, Forssell CS-1 and Focusrite RED7 channel strips do a
good
> > job inserted on tracks, plus there's an SPL Transient designer for kick,
> an
> > SPL de-esser and an old TL Audio tube EQ here. Patching this stuff into
a
> > mix just seems to bring it to life in a way I'm not hearing in a hybrid
> mix.
> > Add the Paris plugs and it's a pretty decent mix arsenal. If I sold 3 x
> > UAD-1 cards and my HDSP 9652's, I could likely afford another nice
> > compressor or two.........maybe an ELOP or something.
> >
> > Actually, I really wouldn't mind having two more Distressors. I may just
> do
> > this. The only thing I'm gonna miss is instant recall, but hell, I've
got
> a
> > damn digital camera around here somewhere.
> >
> > I think I've given the monster hybrid DAW thing a fair chance. It sounds
> > good, but I'm just not sold on it. I've worked my ass off putting it
> > together and getting it to work properly and I think part of my
reluctance
> > to let it go is the many hours spent learning how to use this thing.
> >
> > I dunno. decisions......decisions.........
> >
> >
>
>I just opened 16 UAD-1 plugins on two tracks that were processing incoming
Paris audio. Nary a flam.
Pretty impressive.
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:442f799b@linux...
> Doesn't seem to matter whether the ASIO direct monitoring is on or off in
> totalmix and what's really wierd is it doesn't seem to matter whether or
not
> Cubase SX is even timeline synced. Apparently, it's seeing the incoming
> audio (and I would assume the clock associated with it) and the PDC in SX
is
> automatically playing the audio ahead in time by the amount of delay it's
> automatically compensating. I know this sounds impossible, but it seems to
> be happening.........errrr.........well it actually *is happening. I just
> checked it by processing a pair of kic tracks trrough a pair of 1176's and
> recorded the returns to a stereoi pair of Paris tracks. Placing them side
by
> side, they are exactly lined up on the timeline and the only reason they
> won't phase cancel is because the processed tracks are now louder, having
> been processed by the 1176's.
>
> This is so strange.........I think I may need to go to sleep and wake up
in
> the morning and see if this was some kind of hallucination.
>
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> news:442f73f8@linux...
> > I tried this about a year ago and then blew it off because it didn't
seem
> to
> > be working. Just for the hell of it, I just did it again. Basically, in
a
> > nutshell, what appears to be happening......and get this......I can take
> > track from Paris, create an insert through an ADAT I/O, send this signal
> > from the ADAT output of paris to an ADAT input of an RME card. Now I
open
> > Cubase SX and create an audio channel and set the channel's ADAT I/O to
> the
> > RME input that is receiving the ADAT signal from the Paris insert send.
> Then
> > I set this Cubase audio channel output to send through an adat output
> which
> > is connected to the Paris insert return. Next I drop a UAD-1 1176 (or
> > whatever) in the insert slot of the Cubase channel, making sure that
ASIO
> > direct monitoring is disabled in Cubase SX but *enabled* in the RME HDSP
> > Totalmix applet (not sure yet if this makes any difference.....I'll know
> > more as I experiment with it. When I hit play on the Paris transport,
> Paris
> > sends ADAT sync to Cubase and the applications lock up their timelines
and
> > play back in sync. The thing that is blowing me away is that apparently,
> the
> > Cubase PDC *sees* this incoming timecode and actually plays back the
audio
> > that is being processed through the UAD-1 plugin sample
> > accurately....effectively providing plugin delay compensation of UAD-1
> > plugins in Paris.
> >
> > Since it didn't work a year ago, I'm wondering why it's working now.
Maybe
> > it has something to do with leaving the ASIIO direct monitoring enabled
in
> > Totalmix, but not in SX......or maybe it was just a bug in the SX PDC.
I'm
> > going to play around with this some more, but it sure is cool to be able
> to
> > insert a Pultec and an 1176 on a drum track that is being streamed from
> > Paris. It will also (theoretically) be possible to bus an entire Paris
> drum
> > submix to soimething like a stereo Fairchild and return it to a stereo
> pair
> > of Paris tracks.
> >
> > This would be a nice way to keep the mix in Paris, but to still process
> > certain tracks with UAD processors if needed.
> >
> > Hmmmm.........
> >
> >
> > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> > news:442f665c@linux...
> > > I've been A/B'ing some mixes here, comparing the sonics of flying the
> > tracks
> > > across the digital matrix from Cubase SX to Paris and having a bunch
of
> > > UAD-1 plugins inserted as opposed to inserting analogue gear into a
> > straight
> > > Paris mix. I'm definitely leaning toward the Paris/analogue mix. Even
> with
> > > all of the processing power available and having the Paris summing
bus,
> > > something about the hybrid mix just sound smaller. Maybe it's the
> > truncation
> > > that happens when 40+ tracks that are being processed at 32 bit in SX
> are
> > > flown over a 20 bit ADAT pipe. I dunno
> > >
> > > I know there are lots of advantages to having the editing power of SX
> and
> > I
> > > did use it a lot in my last project. As far as plugins go, I'm getting
> > > something that suits me just fine using analog processors in Paris.
Are
> > they
> > > emulations of LA-2A's or 1176's.......well nooooo.........but I've got
a
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| Re: Nice For Studios [message #64841 is a reply to message #64837] |
Thu, 23 February 2006 08:20   |
Deej [1]
 Messages: 2149 Registered: January 2006
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/>
> > > couple of Distressors, a couple of RNC's which output at +4 and are
> > balanced
> > > with 1:1 Jensen and Cinemags.They sound great and the comps in my
Avalon
> > > 737, Meek VC-1, Forssell CS-1 and Focusrite RED7 channel strips do a
> good
> > > job inserted on tracks, plus there's an SPL Transient designer for
kick,
> > an
> > > SPL de-esser and an old TL Audio tube EQ here. Patching this stuff
into
> a
> > > mix just seems to bring it to life in a way I'm not hearing in a
hybrid
> > mix.
> > > Add the Paris plugs and it's a pretty decent mix arsenal. If I sold 3
x
> > > UAD-1 cards and my HDSP 9652's, I could likely afford another nice
> > > compressor or two.........maybe an ELOP or something.
> > >
> > > Actually, I really wouldn't mind having two more Distressors. I may
just
> > do
> > > this. The only thing I'm gonna miss is instant recall, but hell, I've
> got
> > a
> > > damn digital camera around here somewhere.
> > >
> > > I think I've given the monster hybrid DAW thing a fair chance. It
sounds
> > > good, but I'm just not sold on it. I've worked my ass off putting it
> > > together and getting it to work properly and I think part of my
> reluctance
> > > to let it go is the many hours spent learning how to use this thing.
> > >
> > > I dunno. decisions......decisions.........
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>yup.
On 2 Apr 2006 01:47:40 +1000, "Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>
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| Re: Nice For Studios Am I missing somthing? [message #64846 is a reply to message #64840] |
Thu, 23 February 2006 08:48  |
Mark McCurdy
 Messages: 35 Registered: February 2006
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>> > This would be a nice way to keep the mix in Paris, but to still process
>> > certain tracks with UAD processors if needed.
>> >
>> > Hmmmm.........
>> >
>> >
>> > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>> > news:442f665c@linux...
>> > > I've been A/B'ing some mixes here, comparing the sonics of flying
the
>> > tracks
>> > > across the digital matrix from Cubase SX to Paris and having a bunch
>of
>> > > UAD-1 plugins inserted as opposed to inserting analogue gear into
a
>> > straight
>> > > Paris mix. I'm definitely leaning toward the Paris/analogue mix. Even
>> with
>> > > all of the processing power available and having the Paris summing
>bus,
>> > > something about the hybrid mix just sound smaller. Maybe it's the
>> > truncation
>> > > that happens when 40+ tracks that are being processed at 32 bit in
SX
>> are
>> > > flown over a 20 bit ADAT pipe. I dunno
>> > >
>> > > I know there are lots of advantages to having the editing power of
SX
>> and
>> > I
>> > > did use it a lot in my last project. As far as plugins go, I'm getting
>> > > something that suits me just fine using analog processors in Paris.
>Are
>> > they
>> > > emulations of LA-2A's or 1176's.......well nooooo.........but I've
got
>a
>> > > couple of Distressors, a couple of RNC's which output at +4 and are
>> > balanced
>> > > with 1:1 Jensen and Cinemags.They sound great and the comps in my
>Avalon
>> > > 737, Meek VC-1, Forssell CS-1 and Focusrite RED7 channel strips do
a
>> good
>> > > job inserted on tracks, plus there's an SPL Transient designer for
>kick,
>> > an
>> > > SPL de-esser and an old TL Audio tube EQ here. Patching this stuff
>into
>> a
>> > > mix just seems to bring it to life in a way I'm not hearing in a
>hybrid
>> > mix.
>> > > Add the Paris plugs and it's a pretty decent mix arsenal. If I sold
3
>x
>> > > UAD-1 cards and my HDSP 9652's, I could likely afford another nice
>> > > compressor or two.........maybe an ELOP or something.
>> > >
>> > > Actually, I really wouldn't mind having two more Distressors. I may
>just
>> > do
>> > > this. The only thing I'm gonna miss is instant recall, but hell, I've
>> got
>> > a
>> > > damn digital camera around here somewhere.
>> > >
>> > > I think I've given the monster hybrid DAW thing a fair chance. It
>sounds
>> > > good, but I'm just not sold on it. I've worked my ass off putting
it
>> > > together and getting it to work properly and I think part of my
>> reluctance
>> > > to let it go is the many hours spent learning how to use this thing.
>> > >
>> > > I dunno. decisions......decisions.........
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>are you aware that you are talking to yourself...in public??? so i'll
pretend to be talking to you to lower the (i'm sure by now) raised
eyebrows and still the shaking heads.
your (not imaginary) friend
mr. footballhead
On Sun, 2 Apr 2006 00:35:45 -0700, "DJ"
<animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>I just opened 16 UAD-1 plugins on two tracks that were processing incoming
>Paris audio. Nary a flam.
>
>Pretty impressive.
>
>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>news:442f799b@linux...
>> Doesn't seem to matter whether the ASIO direct monitoring is on or off in
>> totalmix and what's really wierd is it doesn't seem to matter whether or
>not
>> Cubase SX is even timeline synced. Apparently, it's seeing the incoming
>> audio (and I would assume the clock associated with it) and the PDC in SX
>is
>> automatically playing the audio ahead in time by the amount of delay it's
>> automatically compensating. I know this sounds impossible, but it seems to
>> be happening.........errrr.........well it actually *is happening. I just
>> checked it by processing a pair of kic tracks trrough a pair of 1176's and
>> recorded the returns to a stereoi pair of Paris tracks. Placing them side
>by
>> side, they are exactly lined up on the timeline and the only reason they
>> won't phase cancel is because the processed tracks are now louder, having
>> been processed by the 1176's.
>>
>> This is so strange.........I think I may need to go to sleep and wake up
>in
>> the morning and see if this was some kind of hallucination.
>>
>>
>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>> news:442f73f8@linux...
>> > I tried this about a year ago and then blew it off because it didn't
>seem
>> to
>> > be working. Just for the hell of it, I just did it again. Basically, in
>a
>> > nutshell, what appears to be happening......and get this......I can take
>> > track from Paris, create an insert through an ADAT I/O, send this signal
>> > from the ADAT output of paris to an ADAT input of an RME card. Now I
>open
>> > Cubase SX and create an audio channel and set the channel's ADAT I/O to
>> the
>> > RME input that is receiving the ADAT signal from the Paris insert send.
>> Then
>> > I set this Cubase audio channel output to send through an adat output
>> which
>> > is connected to the Paris insert return. Next I drop a UAD-1 1176 (or
>> > whatever) in the insert slot of the Cubase channel, making sure that
>ASIO
>> > direct monitoring is disabled in Cubase SX but *enabled* in the RME HDSP
>> > Totalmix applet (not sure yet if this makes any difference.....I'll know
>> > more as I experiment with it. When I hit play on the Paris transport,
>> Paris
>> > sends ADAT sync to Cubase and the applications lock up their timelines
>and
>> > play back in sync. The thing that is blowing me away is that apparently,
>> the
>> > Cubase PDC *sees* this incoming timecode and actually plays back the
>audio
>> > that is being processed through the UAD-1 plugin sample
>> > accurately....effectively providing plugin delay compensation of UAD-1
>> > plugins in Paris.
>> >
>> > Since it didn't work a year ago, I'm wondering why it's working now.
>Maybe
>> > it has something to do with leaving the ASIIO direc
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