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emarenot
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rather than like a compressor. I have one and =
use it
on acoustic instruments and sometimes on vocals before an LA2a or =
Distressor
type compressor.
Some of the old 166 compressors with the original DBX VCA do sound =
good.
Closer to a 160VU than any other DBX. I don't know what the serial =
number
range is for the good units. I'm not a fan of the later 166 and the =
early
units are rare. I have a pair of 161s (Unbalanced 160VU) that I hold =
quite
dear to my heart.
Gene
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The VCA is in a pack on my 160VU's, and =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>AA</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
in message=20
<A href=3D"news:436afd88@linux">news:436afd88@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Gene,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have a very early 166 and a =
161VU. Is it=20
possible they</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>use the same vca?!?! I couldn't =
find=20
anything out doing a </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>google search about it. I =
wonder if the new=20
DBX (Harmon) would </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>have any records on that? I'd =
open them up=20
and look</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>but I'm not sure which component is =
the=20
VCA. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any tips for me to learn more? =
I'll look=20
inside for clues.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"gene lennon" <<A=20
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href=3D"mailto:glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com">glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com</A>&g=
t;=20
wrote in message <A=20
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href=3D"news:436a335f$1@linux">news:436a335f$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>"cuj=
o"=20
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:chris@applemanstudio.com">chris@applemanstudio.com</A>>=
=20
wrote:<BR>><BR>>Hmm, so Gene, you;d say a Compeller could be =
good for=20
drum O/H's while tracking<BR>>to keep form getting "overs" while =
still=20
getting a good hot signal into<BR>your<BR>>pres?<BR>>It is =
sort of=20
like an RNC on supernice no? Right now, I only have a =
lowly<BR>>DBX 166=20
for this (old one) although, I read somewhere recently that=20
the<BR>old<BR>>166's are close to the old ssl..Was that you who =
wrote=20
that? MAy have been<BR>>Fletcher<BR>><BR><BR>The Compeller is =
very=20
much like a RNC on supernice. It has Servo =
transformerless,<BR>circuitry=20
that makes it VERY clean sounding. Unfortunately, it has no =
attack<BR>or=20
release controls so it is a little slow for drums. The Compeller=20
could<BR>best be described as an automatic leveler. It sounds like =
to an=20
engineer<BR>riding input levels rather than like a compressor. I =
have one=20
and use it<BR>on acoustic instruments and sometimes on vocals before =
an LA2a=20
or Distressor<BR>type compressor.<BR><BR>Some of the old 166 =
compressors=20
with the original DBX VCA do sound good.<BR>Closer to a 160VU than =
any other=20
DBX. I don't know what the serial number<BR>range is for the good =
units. I'm=20
not a fan of the later 166 and the early<BR>units are rare. I have a =
pair of=20
161s (Unbalanced 160VU) that I hold quite<BR>dear to my=20
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| Re: Update_summary_senderella_use [message #58920 is a reply to message #58915] |
Mon, 10 October 2005 10:23 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
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ackage and don't use anywhere close to my
>> bandwidth or storage limits. Anyway, anyone who wants to make basically
>> anything (music and/or PARIS related that is) available through the web,
>> send me an email. If the files aren't too big (10 megs or smaller) you
>> can just email them and I'll create a folder on my site for you and post
>> a link back here on the group. If they're big files, you can send me a
>> disc and I'll post it up.
>>
>> Email me at this address: tony@mercysakes.com. This address can handle
>> bigger files.
>>
>> Tony
>>
>> Check out Tom Bruhl's mic shootout files here:
>>
>> http://www.mercysakes.com/paris/tbruhl110105
>Do you own? That's the real deal, the feeling of empowerment that cannot be
beaten.
I'll never forget my first apartment. I rented, but the feeling of privacy
and autonomy was tactile. Awesome feeling.
Jimmy
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:436b37f1$1@linux...
>
>
> Well, I'm officially in and living on my own for the first time ever. :o)
> It's been an adventure and a lot of work in the move.
>
> The guts of home is here. I've still got some minor stuff to move... one
> keyboard and it's indoor stand, and various other accessories, but overall
> things here are set up and happenning. The Paris system hasn't been set up
> yet mind you. It's in peices awaiting me to work out a method of getting
> the Paris desk inside. ;o) When I built the desk it was built to use, not
> built to move, or get in and out. ;o)
>
> But overall, the kitchen works... the lounge works... the bedroom
works...
> the toilet works... the phone works... mind you the internet doesn't
> work yet. I'm currently on some kind of wireless "go anywhere" system my
> work is trialing (fortunately) on my laptop. It's due to be connected next
> week though, and once that happens the newsgroup server will be moving
with
> me. It's currently sitting in my old bedroom at my previous residence in
> an empty room. Doing it's job still I see though. ;o)
>
> The great news is that this Friday night PBS radio are playing some great
> funk! The other great news is that I have fantastic TV reception here
compared
> to the old place. I can pick up every free to air channel better than I've
> ever seen before through the main antenna in the lounge, and quite well
through
> my dodgy rabbit ears in my bedroom. I'm enjoying picking up ABC and SBS
for
> once, the "government" and "world" TV stations.
>
> Living on my own is certainly a new thing. I have very little cash though
> at the moment, as I spent it all on those little bits that you don't know
> you don't have until you move out of the share house and go "Hold on! I
don't
> have a..." ;o)
>
> It's going to be fun though. It's wonderful to live somewhere you can
watch
> what you want, see who you want, put on the CD you want, listen to the
radio
> station you want, and not be questioned about the whole thing. :o)
>
> Life is good. :o)
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.I think the situation really is a best band for the buck scenario...so the
next question that follows is which would render a bigger improvement
Don
"uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:436b96d9@linux...
> It's all good, though I think Paris' converters are still in the upper
> reaches of what is available, even today.
>
> The Lucid clock is really cool here. Nice bit of improvement in the
> imaging.
>
> I think you'd notice a much bigger improvement with compression over
> "better" converters.
>
> JMO.
> Jimmy
>
> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:436b91a9@linux...
>> What do you think of updating with an external wordclock and a high end
> D/A
>> converter in lieu of a stereo compressor
>>
>> Thoughts and suggestions are more than welcome
>>
>> Don
>>
>>
>
>Man I've got to re-read my posts before sending...."best band" DUH!
"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:436b97eb@linux...
>I think the situation really is a best band for the buck scenario...so the
>next question that follows is which would render a bigger improvement
>
> Don
>
>
> "uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:436b96d9@linux...
>> It's all good, though I think Paris' converters are still in the upper
>> reaches of what is available, even today.
>>
>> The Lucid clock is really cool here. Nice bit of improvement in the
>> imaging.
>>
>> I think you'd notice a much bigger improvement with compression over
>> "better" converters.
>>
>> JMO.
>> Jimmy
>>
>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:436b91a9@linux...
>>> What do you think of updating with an external wordclock and a high end
>> D/A
>>> converter in lieu of a stereo compressor
>>>
>>> Thoughts and suggestions are more than welcome
>>>
>>> Don
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>Well, it depends on what you are doing. The external word clock would
provide improvements with A/D-D/A conversion. If you are "mixing
only", then the external word clock would only give benefits in
monitoring while mixing. The internal bounce of the mix would not
benefit from the word clock as it is a sample by sample mix. A high
quality D/A converter would provide more accurate monitoring allowing
you to make better informed decisions on the overall soundstage during
mixing. What exactly will you be doing primarily? Tracking? Mixing?
Both?
David.
Don Nafe wrote:
> What do you think of updating with an external wordclock and a high end D/A
> converter in lieu of a stereo compressor
>
> Thoughts and suggestions are more than welcome
>
> Don
>
>Hey Dave
Mainly mixing as I have a quasi partner who takes care of the recording end.
I will be running two rigs, one for paris the other w/Cubase or something
similar for UAD & Midi
any other thoughts
Don
"EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote in message
news:436ba2ce$1@linux...
> Well, it depends on what you are doing. The external word clock would
> provide improvements with A/D-D/A conversion. If you are "mixing only",
> then the external word clock would only give benefits in monitoring while
> mixing. The internal bounce of the mix would not benefit from the word
> clock as it is a sample by sample mix. A high quality D/A converter would
> provide more accurate monitoring allowing you to make better informed
> decisions on the overall soundstage during mixing. What exactly will you
> be doing primarily? Tracking? Mixing? Both?
>
> David.
>
> Don Nafe wrote:
>> What do you think of updating with an external wordclock and a high end
>> D/A converter in lieu of a stereo compressor
>>
>> Thoughts and suggestions are more than welcome
>>
>> DonYay baby!And the remote control is always exactly where you left it, unlike it
was f
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| Re: Update_summary_senderella_use [message #58924 is a reply to message #58915] |
Mon, 10 October 2005 10:38 |
Tom Bruhl
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the master bus. I'm
talking 20% increase in quality. Tracks really glued together. NoLimit pales
in comparison.
Then I purchased an Apogee DA and AD-16x. Even at 20bit (via ADAT) the
sound became less boxy, and more "pro" sounding. Increase in highs, tighter
bass, wider sound field. A good 10% better than the stock converters.
I have since switched to an RME/cubase SX system.
Anyway, if I could have only made one move, it would be the 1968 across the
mix bus.
"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:436b91a9@linux...
> What do you think of updating with an external wordclock and a high end
> D/A converter in lieu of a stereo compressor
>
> Thoughts and suggestions are more than welcome
>
> Don
>This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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Thanks for the help Gene and Aaron.
>Some of the old 166 compressors with the original DBX VCA do sound =
good.
>Closer to a 160VU than any other DBX. =20
The problem is that my 166 needs repair. It's not worth repairing if
it isn't the model Gene refers to. I bought the 166 for $1,000 when =
they first
came out. I had to wait for delivery to the store. I'm pretty sure it =
was out of the
first run. I am running the serial number by DBX to see what they say. =
Also
looking for specialists in this field. I might call Eric at Earth =
Works.
Thanks for the info,
Tom
"gene lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote in message =
news:436b89f4$1@linux...
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Gene,
>I have a very early 166 and a 161VU. Is it possible they
>use the same vca?!?! I couldn't find anything out doing a=3D20
>google search about it. I wonder if the new DBX (Harmon) would=3D20
>have any records on that? I'd open them up and look
>but I'm not sure which component is the VCA. =3D20
>
>Any tips for me to learn more? I'll look inside for clues.
>Tom
>
I know the 163 and the 166 share the same VCA (except as noted) and =
these
both have different envelopes-of-attack from the 161. This has a lot =
to do
with the overall sound.
I should point out that the person who told me about some of the early =
166
boxes was not from DBX, but was a technician that I trusted and he =
should
have known. I could be wrong about this.
You should be in a good position to listen to the two units side by =
side.
This is really the best way anyway, particularly since many of the =
older
units are way overdue for a rebuild/recalibration.
Looking inside is not always helpful. The early VCAs are not always =
labeled.
The attached image looks generally like most of the early VCAs.
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for the help Gene and =
Aaron.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>>Some of the old 166 compressors with the original DBX VCA do =
sound=20
good.<BR>>Closer to a 160VU than any other DBX. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The problem is that my 166 needs =
repair. =20
It's not worth repairing if</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>it isn't the model Gene refers =
to. I bought=20
the 166 for $1,000 when they first</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>came out. I had to wait for =
delivery to the=20
store. I'm pretty sure it was out of the</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>first run. I am running the =
serial number by=20
DBX to see what they say. Also</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>looking for specialists in this =
field. I=20
might call Eric at Earth Works.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for the info,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"gene lennon" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com">glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com</A>&g=
t;=20
wrote in message <A=20
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href=3D"news:436b89f4$1@linux">news:436b89f4$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>"Tom=
Bruhl"=20
<<A href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Gene,<BR>>I have a very early 166 and =
a=20
161VU. Is it possible they<BR>>use the same vca?!?! I =
couldn't=20
find anything out doing a=3D20<BR>>google search about it. I =
wonder if=20
the new DBX (Harmon) would=3D20<BR>>have any records on that? =
I'd open=20
them up and look<BR>>but I'm not sure which component is the VCA.=20
=3D20<BR>><BR>>Any tips for me to learn more? I'll look =
inside for=20
clues.<BR>>Tom<BR>><BR>I know the 163 and the 166 share the same =
VCA=20
(except as noted) and these<BR>both have different envelopes-of-attack =
from=20
the 161. This has a lot to do<BR>with the overall sound.<BR>I should =
point out=20
that the person who told me about some of the early 166<BR>boxes was =
not from=20
DBX, but was a technician that I trusted and he should<BR>have known. =
I could=20
be wrong about this.<BR>You should be in a good position to listen to =
the two=20
units side by side.<BR>This is really the best way anyway, =
particularly since=20
many of the older<BR>units are way overdue for a=20
rebuild/recalibration.<BR>Looking inside is not always helpful. The =
early VCAs=20
are not always labeled.<BR><BR><BR>The attached image looks generally =
like=20
most of the early VCAs.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
------=_NextPart_000_0117_01C5E143.826DCEA0--Just wondering if anyone has linked PARIS with an Ampex MM1200
using a Timeline Mycrolynx.
Just wondering if anyone can give me some advice
Thanx Dominic"I have very little cash though at the moment" that'll disappear once
the first woman is invited.
congrats on being house poor...you have achieved the american dream.
;o)
On 4 Nov 2005 21:29:05 +1000, "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>Well, I'm officially in and living on my own for the first time ever. :o)
>It's been an adventure and a lot of work in the move.
>
>The guts of home is here. I've still got some minor stuff to move... one
>keyboard and it's indoor stand, and various other accessories, but overall
>things here are set up and happenning. The Paris system hasn't been set up
>yet mind you. It's in peices awaiting me to work out a method of getting
>the Paris desk inside. ;o) When I built the desk it was built to use, not
>built to move, or get in and out. ;o)
>
>But overall, the kitchen works... the lounge works... the bedroom works...
> the toilet works... the phone works... mind you the internet doesn't
>work yet. I'm currently on some kind of wireless "go anywhere" system my
>work is trialing (fortunately) on my laptop. It's due to be connected next
>week though, and once that happens the newsgroup server will be moving with
>me. It's currently sitting in my old bedroom at my previous residence in
>an empty room. Doing it's job still I see though. ;o)
>
>The great news is that this Friday night PBS radio are playing some great
>funk! The other great news is that I have fantastic TV reception here compared
>to the old place. I can pick up every free to air channel better than I've
>ever seen before through the main antenna in the lounge, and quite well through
>my dodgy rabbit ears in my bedroom. I'm enjoying picking up ABC and SBS for
>once, the "government" and "world" TV stations.
>
>Living on my own is certainly a new thing. I have very little cash though
>at the moment, as I spent it all on those little bits that you don't know
>you don't have until you move out of the share house and go "Hold on! I don't
>have a..." ;o)
>
>It's going to be fun though. It's wonderful to live somewhere you can watch
>what you want, see who you want, put on the CD you want, listen to the radio
>station you want, and not be questioned about the whole thing. :o)
>
>Life is good. :o)
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.when i tried to even suggest such a thing she slapped me hard.
On 5 Nov 2005 05:43:41 +1000, "Dominic" <BERTSTUDIO@aol.com> wrote:
>
>Just wondering if anyone has linked PARIS with an Ampex MM1200
>using a Timeline Mycrolynx.
>
>Just wondering if anyone can give me some advice
>Thanx DominicShe still no worky! This machine hasn't been right since I went on the internet
with it. I think a bug may be eating my lunch, time to reinstall.
Thanks
James
"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>The default is a folder on your desktop called *Unused Desktop Shortcuts*
>that is built automatically. Try resizing the desktop and see if possibly
it
>got pulled out of range of your current desktop... if you're at 1024x768,
>move to 800x600, apply, then resize back to 1024x768. Any icons outside
of
>the viewing area should be pushed back in that way.
>
>AA
>
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:436b05e4$1@linux...
>>
>> Thanks Aaron! I've got my computer and my docs, but where are all my
>> short
>> cuts? I the properties, it states that desktop clean up wizard placed
>> them
>> in a folder. What folder, where?
>>
>> Thanks
>> James
>>
>> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>Yup. Left click on the desktop, and turn off the desktop cleanup wizard:
>>>Left click > properties>desktop tab>customize desktop>general tab, uncheck
>>
>>>Run Desktop Cleanup Wizard
>>>
>>>AA
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:436ab747$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> I haven't run my windows XP machine in awhile, I just started it up
and
>> I
>>>> no longer have desk top Icons, what's up with that? It runs Ok, but
no
>>
>>>> Icons.
>>>>
>>>> Thought you guys would know.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> James
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>I am not familiar with the Timeline products, but I have locked
MM1200's using Adams Smith, Tascam, Q-Loc (ick) and others. If this
is a later 1200 with the servo mod, the tape tension will be more
stable, but I would still not sync Paris to the 1200. I would instead
use a SMPTE stripe in Paris (audio track) and send the TC out of a
pre-fade Aux to the synchronizer. The 1200 could then chase the
timecode coming from Paris. As this is an audio track, you would have
to have at least 20 seconds of TC pre-roll available in Paris for the
1200 to lock properly.
David.
Dominic wrote:
> Just wondering if anyone has linked PARIS with an Ampex MM1200
> using a Timeline Mycrolynx.
>
> Just wondering if anyone can give me some advice
> Thanx DominicI would recommend a WC generator and a D/A for monitoring. The WC
unit will also allow you to interconnect the Paris and Cubase machines
ala DJ if you wanted to. We use and recommend this WC generator:
http://www.rosendahl-studiotechnik.de/nanoclocks.html
As for a D/A, the Benchmark is very good, also the UA 2192 is quite nice.
David.
Don Nafe wrote:
> Hey Dave
>
> Mainly mixing as I have a quasi partner who takes care of the recording end.
>
> I will be running two rigs, one for paris the other w/Cubase or something
> similar for UAD & Midi
>
> any other thoughts
>
> Don
>
>
> "EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote in message
> news:436ba2ce$1@linux...
>
>>Well, it depends on what you are doing. The external word clock would
>>provide improvements with A/D-D/A conversion. If you are "mixing only",
>>then the external word clock would only give benefits in monitoring while
>>mixing. The internal bounce of the mix would not benefit from the word
>>clock as it is a sample by sample mix. A high quality D/A converter would
>>provide more accurate monitoring allowing you to make better informed
>>decisions on the overall soundstage during mixing. What exactly will you
>>be doing primarily? Tracking? Mixing? Both?
>>
>>David.
>>
>>Don Nafe wrote:
>>
>>>What do you think of updating with an external wordclock and a high end
>>>D/A converter in lieu of a stereo compressor
>>>
>>>Thoughts and suggestions are more than welcome
>>>
>>>Don
>
>
>I take it the UA is running around $3000 CDN - What's the Nano worth?
Don "there goes the budget" Nafe
"EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote in message
news:436bbcf8$1@linux...
>I would recommend a WC generator and a D/A for monitoring. The WC unit
>will also allow you to interconnect the Paris and Cubase machines ala DJ if
>you wanted to. We use and recommend this WC generator:
>
> http://www.rosendahl-studiotechnik.de/nanoclocks.html
>
> As for a D/A, the Benchmark is very good, also the UA 2192 is quite nice.
>
> David.
>
> Don Nafe wrote:
>
>> Hey Dave
>>
>> Mainly mixing as I have a quasi partner who takes care of the recording
>> end.
>>
>> I will be running two rigs, one for paris the other w/Cubase or something
>> similar for UAD & Midi
>>
>> any other thoughts
>>
>> Don
>>
>>
>> "EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote in message
>> news:436ba2ce$1@linux...
>>
>>>Well, it depends on what you are doing. The external word clock would
>>>provide improvements with A/D-D/A conversion. If you are "mixing only",
>>>then the external word clock would only give benefits in monitoring while
>>>mixing. The internal bounce of the mix would not benefit from the word
>>>clock as it is a sample by sample mix. A high quality D/A converter
>>>would provide more accurate monitoring allowing you to make better
>>>informed decisions on the overall soundstage during mixing. What exactly
>>>will you be doing primarily? Tracking? Mixing? Both?
>>>
>>>David.
>>>
>>>Don Nafe wrote:
>>>
>>>>What do you think of updating with an external wordclock and a high end
>>>>D/A converter in lieu of a stereo compressor
>>>>
>>>>Thoughts and suggestions are more than welcome
>>>>
>>>>Don
>>
>>Congratulations Kim! The place looks great. You know what this means? You've
got to throw a party to break the place in. Call your mates and tell them
to bring you over some coldies!
Enjoy your independence!
James
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>Well, I'm officially in and living on my own for the first time ever. :o)
>It's been an adventure and a lot of work in the move.
>
>The guts of home is here. I've still got some minor stuff to move... one
>keyboard and it's indoor stand, and various other accessories, but overall
>things here are set up and happenning. The Paris system hasn't been set
up
>yet mind you. It's in peices awaiting me to work out a method of getting
>the Paris desk inside. ;o) When I built the desk it was built to use, not
>built to move, or get in and out. ;o)
>
>But overall, the kitchen works... the lounge works... the bedroom works...
> the toilet works... the phone works... mind you the internet doesn't
>work yet. I'm currently on some kind of wireless "go anywhere" system my
>work is trialing (fortunately) on my laptop. It's due to be connected next
>week though, and once that happens the newsgroup server will be moving with
>me. It's currently sitting in my old bedroom at my previous residence in
>an empty room. Doing it's job still I see though. ;o)
>
>The great news is that this Friday night PBS radio are playing some great
>funk! The other great news is that I have fantastic TV reception here compared
>to the old place. I can pick up every free to air channel better than I've
>ever seen before through the main antenna in the lounge, and quite well
through
>my dodgy rabbit ears in my bedroom. I'm enjoying picking up ABC and SBS
for
>once, the "government" and "world" TV stations.
>
>Living on my own is certainly a new thing. I have very little cash though
>at the moment, as I spent it all on those little bits that you don't know
>you don't have until you move out of the share house and go "Hold on! I
don't
>have a..." ;o)
>
>It's going to be fun though. It's wonderful to live somewhere you can watch
>what you want, see who you want, put on the CD you want, listen to the radio
>station you want, and not be questioned about the whole thing. :o)
>
>Life is good. :o)
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.EK Sound <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote:
>I am not familiar with the Timeline products, but I have locked
>MM1200's using Adams Smith, Tascam, Q-Loc (ick) and others. If this
>is a later 1200 with the servo mod, the tape tension will be more
>stable, but I would still not sync Paris to the 1200. I would instead
>use a SMPTE stripe in Paris (audio track) and send the TC out of a
>pre-fade Aux to the synchronizer. The 1200 could then chase the
>timecode coming from Paris. As this is an audio track, you would have
>to have at least 20 seconds of TC pre-roll available in Paris for the
>1200 to lock properly.
>
>David.
David has this right. Most later SMPTE sync units can run automatically from
just changes in the SMPTE location (no control signals needed). This is fine
if you are just transferring tracks, but a complete pain if you are trying
to run both units in a production environment.
If I was recording tracks on the MM1200 and wanted Paris to play along, I
would reverse the setup and use the 1200 as master.The only caveat with using the 1200 as master is that the fluctuations
in tape speed will translate to "pitch" changes in Paris, as it tries
to keep in sync with the tape transport. If you are just using Paris
to play back (as Gene said) this would be fine... if you are wanting
to *record* to Paris while slaved to the tape transport, I would not
recommend it.
David.
Gene Lennon wrote:
> EK Sound <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote:
>
>>I am not familiar with the Timeline products, but I have locked
>>MM1200's using Adams Smith, Tascam, Q-Loc (ick) and others. If this
>>is a later 1200 with the servo mod, the tape tension will be more
>>stable, but I would still not sync Paris to the 1200. I would instead
>>use a SMPTE stripe in Paris (audio track) and send the TC out of a
>>pre-fade Aux to the synchronizer. The 1200 could then chase the
>>timecode coming from Paris. As this is an audio track, you would have
>>to have at least 20 seconds of TC pre-roll available in Paris for the
>>1200 to lock properly.
>>
>>David.
>
>
> David has this right. Most later SMPTE sync units can run automatically from
> j
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---=_linux436be0cc--Well I'm told in Australia they call this style of house a "California Bungalow",
and San Diego being in California, you've no doubt recognised the style from
which we stole the design. ;o) I'm not sure why it's called a bungalow, because
it's clearly a house, but hey...
It is a nice design though. And I'm enjoying the higher ceilings than my
last place. The rooms are all a little reverberant at the moment however.
With the polished floor boards there is little to absorb audio, but once
I get some carpet mats I'm sure I'll get to appreciate the sound of the raised
ceilings.
Cheers,
Kim.
"DC" <dc@spamnationalcity.org> wrote:
>
>Hey Kim,
>
>If I didn't know better, I'd say you'd moved into one of the nicer
>spots in Chula Vista! (which is near San Diego)
>
>'Cept for those funny mains outlets...
>
>DC
>
>and yeah, there is still more stuff you forgot you needed... grrr"cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote:
>I can see that bay window featuring in to your control room somehow.
Well that was the original plan, but I don't know that I'm going to be able
to get my desk into that room. There are actually two bay windows in the
house. That front one is the master bedroom, and then there is a second one
on (based on that photo) the right of the house which is in the lounge. Unfortunately
it looks as if the control room will end up out the back in the sun room,
which is a little sad because it's quite a small room and the only one in
the house with a low ceiling. I'm still thinking about it at this stage.
Of course the advantage of using the sun room is that over winter I'd get
plenty of warmth and sunlight in the afternoon.
I was going to make the master bedroom the control room, sleep in the second
bedroom, and make the sunroom the guests room, but various things are working
against that and it doesn't look like happenning that way.
Cheers,
Kim."Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>Is that like "Master of you Domain"? ;-)
Hehe, that was a funny episode.
One of my friends made the remark that now that I live on my own I "...can
become one of those 'nude all the time' people". ;o) I haven't followed through
with the idea yet, but it's early days. ;o)
Cheers,
Kim.No I don't own the place, but my hope is that this will be the last renter.
If I hang in here a couple of years I should be able to get the finances
together to make a purchase with any luck. It's all part of the plan. When
I buy I likely wont be able to afford a place this close to the city, so
I want to live in here a bit and get some good quality "living" done in the
hope that when I buy I'm ready to move a bit further out...
....of course it could well backfire and have me end up just getting used
to the inner city lifestyle. We'll see. ;o)
It is great though. This morning, for example, is Saturday and I've gotten
up at 8:00 or so. At the old place the other two residents don't really get
up until midday or so, so there would usually be about four hours of tippy
toes around the house making no noise until everyone wakes up, trying to
find things to do which are quiet. Here, on the other hand, I can do what
I like. All the doors are open, the stereo's on.
And it's a wonderful looking day outside. :o)
Cheers,
Kim.
"uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>Do you own? That's the real deal, the feeling of empowerment that cannot
be
>beaten.
>
>I'll never forget my first apartment. I rented, but the feeling of privacy
>and autonomy was tactile. Awesome feeling.
>
>Jimmy
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:436b37f1$1@linux...
>>
>>
>> Well, I'm officially in and living on my own for the first time ever.
:o)
>> It's been an adventure and a lot of work in the move.
>>
>> The guts of home is here. I've still got some minor stuff to move...
one
>> keyboard and it's indoor stand, and various other accessories, but overall
>> things here are set up and happenning. The Paris system hasn't been set
up
>> yet mind you. It's in peices awaiting me to work out a method of getting
>> the Paris desk inside. ;o) When I built the desk it was built to use,
not
>> built to move, or get in and out. ;o)
>>
>> But overall, the kitchen works... the lounge works... the bedroom
>works...
>> the toilet works... the phone works... mind you the internet doesn't
>> work yet. I'm currently on some kind of wireless "go anywhere" system
my
>> work is trialing (fortunately) on my laptop. It's due to be connected
next
>> week though, and once that happens the newsgroup server will be moving
>with
>> me. It's currently sitting in my old bedroom at my previous residence
in
>> an empty room. Doing it's job still I see though. ;o)
>>
>> The great news is that this Friday night PBS radio are playing some great
>> funk! The other great news is that I have fantastic TV reception here
>compared
>> to the old place. I can pick up every free to air channel better than
I've
>> ever seen before through the main antenna in the lounge, and quite well
>through
>> my dodgy rabbit ears in my bedroom. I'm enjoying picking up ABC and SBS
>for
>> once, the "government" and "world" TV stations.
>>
>> Living on my own is certainly a new thing. I have very little cash though
>> at the moment, as I spent it all on those little bits that you don't know
>> you don't have until you move out of the share house and go "Hold on!
I
>don't
>> have a..." ;o)
>>
>> It's going to be fun though. It's wonderful to live somewhere you can
>watch
>> what you want, see who you want, put on the CD you want, listen to the
>radio
>> station you want, and not be questioned about the whole thing. :o)
>>
>> Life is good. :o)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kim.
>
>John <no@no.com> wrote:
>And the remote control is always exactly where you left it, unlike it
>was for ME this morning!
Hehe, well yes, in theory, BUT...
I have two TV's of the same brand, which both have an identical remote. At
the previous place my brother was using one, and didn't have batteries in
the remote. I'm currently too poor to buy batteries until next pay, so I
have to take the remote with the batteries to the TV I want to use, so every
night I'm about to get in bed and go "Oh, forgot the remote" and have to
go out to the lounge and get it. Then the next evening I go "Where's the
remote? Oh, in the bedroom!" and have to go get it again.
So I'm still managing to experience a remote control fiasco, but at least
I do know it will be wherever I put it, even if I have put it in the other
room. ;o)
Cheers,
Kim.rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>"I have very little cash though at the moment" that'll disappear once
>the first woman is invited.
Hehe. No women yet. I have $39 until next pay. Can't afford one. ;o)
>congrats on being house poor...you have achieved the american dream.
>;o)
And in an American styled house and all. I'll have the accent soon... ;o)
Cheers,
Kim.
>
>On 4 Nov 2005 21:29:05 +1000, "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>Well, I'm officially in and living on my own for the first time ever. :o)
>>It's been an adventure and a lot of work in the move.
>>
>>The guts of home is here. I've still got some minor stuff to move... one
>>keyboard and it's indoor stand, and various other accessories, but overall
>>things here are set up and happenning. The Paris system hasn't been set
up
>>yet mind you. It's in peices awaiting me to work out a method of getting
>>the Paris desk inside. ;o) When I built the desk it was built to use, not
>>built to move, or get in and out. ;o)
>>
>>But overall, the kitchen works... the lounge works... the bedroom works...
>> the toilet works... the phone works... mind you the internet doesn't
>>work yet. I'm currently on some kind of wireless "go anywhere" system my
>>work is trialing (fortunately) on my laptop. It's due to be connected next
>>week though, and once that happens the newsgroup server will be moving
with
>>me. It's currently sitting in my old bedroom at my previous residence in
>>an empty room. Doing it's job still I see though. ;o)
>>
>>The great news is that this Friday night PBS radio are playing some great
>>funk! The other great news is that I have fantastic TV reception here compared
>>to the old place. I can pick up every free to air channel better than I've
>>ever seen before through the main antenna in the lounge, and quite well
through
>>my dodgy rabbit ears in my bedroom. I'm enjoying picking up ABC and SBS
for
>>once, the "government" and "world" TV stations.
>>
>>Living on my own is certainly a new thing. I have very little cash though
>>at the moment, as I spent it all on those little bits that you don't know
>>you don't have until you move out of the share house and go "Hold on! I
don't
>>have a..." ;o)
>>
>>It's going to be fun though. It's wonderful to live somewhere you can watch
>>what you want, see who you want, put on the CD you want, listen to the
radio
>>station you want, and not be questioned about the whole thing. :o)
>>
>>Life is good. :o)
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>You've
>got to throw a party to break the place in.
Hehe. Yep, I'm on it! ;o) November 19th is the date. It's a dual purpose
party. Partly a house warming, and partly my 1/3 of a century birthday party!
Yes, in two weeks I will be exactly 1/3 of a century old! :o)
We already had a minor celebration the first night I slept here. A bunch
of us walked to a local band venue to see a friend of ours play in a band
(Karnivool for any Aussies who know them) and six people slept the night
in the new place that night. We had a fairly big one, stayed up till 4am
drinking, and then had to get up and lift heavy furniture... erghh, that
was a bad move. ;o)
Cheers,
Kim.Also, Don, what is your monitor situation like?
"benjamin" <none@a.a> wrote:
> I went through this same thing recently. First thing I did was purchase
an
>Apogee Big Ben. There was a noticable difference with big ben. Most
>noticable in a wider sound field. It was really obvious when going back
to
>internal sync. I'd say it made a good 5% increase in quality.
> The next thing I did was purchase a bunch of outboard gear. I was using
>various gear in the external loops using the stock PARIS converters. The
>biggest difference was strapping a Drawmer 1968 across the master bus. I'm
>talking 20% increase in quality. Tracks really glued together. NoLimit pales
>in comparison.
> Then I purchased an Apogee DA and AD-16x. Even at 20bit (via ADAT) the
>sound became less boxy, and more "pro" sounding. Increase in highs, tighter
>bass, wider sound field. A good 10% better than the stock converters.
>I have since switched to an RME/cubase SX system.
>
>Anyway, if I could have only made one move, it would be the 1968 across
the
>mix bus.
>
>
>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:436b91a9@linux...
>> What do you think of updating with an external wordclock and a high end
>> D/A converter in lieu of a stereo compressor
>>
>> Thoughts and suggestions are more than welcome
>>
>> Don
>>
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>You've
>>got to throw a party to break the place in.
>
>Hehe. Yep, I'm on it! ;o) November 19th is the date. It's a dual purpose
>party. Partly a house warming, and partly my 1/3 of a century birthday party!
>Yes, in two weeks I will be exactly 1/3 of a century old! :o)
>
>We already had a minor celebration the first night I slept here. A bunch
>of us walked to a local band venue to see a friend of ours play in a band
>(Karnivool for any Aussies who know them) and six people slept the night
>in the new place that night. We had a fairly big one, stayed up till 4am
>drinking, and then had to get up and lift heavy furniture... erghh, that
>was a bad move. ;o)
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
That sounds like partying like a rock star mode; )
Rock on my brother from down-under!
Jameshttp://housecall.antivirus.com
that should get you right, then you can evaluate if you really want to
wipe/reload
AA
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:436bbb33$1@linux...
>
> She still no worky! This machine hasn't been right since I went on the
> internet
> with it. I think a bug may be eating my lunch, time to reinstall.
>
> Thanks
> James
>
> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>The default is a folder on your desktop called *Unused Desktop Shortcuts*
>
>>that is built automatically. Try resizing the desktop and see if possibly
> it
>>got pulled out of range of your current desktop... if you're at 1024x768,
>
>>move to 800x600, apply, then resize back to 1024x768. Any icons outside
> of
>>the viewing area should be pushed back in that way.
>>
>>AA
>>
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:436b05e4$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Thanks Aaron! I've got my computer and my docs, but where are all my
>
>>> short
>>> cuts? I the properties, it states that desktop clean up wizard placed
>
>>> them
>>> in a folder. What folder, where?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> James
>>>
>>> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>>Yup. Left click on the desktop, and turn off the desktop cleanup wizard:
>>>>Left click > properties>desktop tab>customize desktop>general tab,
>>>>uncheck
>>>
>>>>Run Desktop Cleanup Wizard
>>>>
>>>>AA
>>>>
>>>>"James McCl
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"_blank">1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>"Tom=
=20
Bruhl" <<A =
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Gene,<BR>>I have a very early 166 =
and a=20
161VU. Is it possible they<BR>>use the same vca?!?! I =
couldn't find anything out doing a=3D20<BR>>google search about =
it. I=20
wonder if the new DBX (Harmon) would=3D20<BR>>have any records on =
that? I'd open them up and look<BR>>but I'm not sure which=20
component is the VCA. =3D20<BR>><BR>>Any tips for me to learn=20
more? I'll look inside for clues.<BR>>Tom<BR>><BR>I know =
the 163=20
and the 166 share the same VCA (except as noted) and these<BR>both =
have=20
different envelopes-of-attack from the 161. This has a lot to =
do<BR>with the=20
overall sound.<BR>I should point out that the person who told me =
about some=20
of the early 166<BR>boxes was not from DBX, but was a technician =
that I=20
trusted and he should<BR>have known. I could be wrong about =
this.<BR>You=20
should be in a good position to listen to the two units side by=20
side.<BR>This is really the best way anyway, particularly since many =
of the=20
older<BR>units are way overdue for a =
rebuild/recalibration.<BR>Looking=20
inside is not always helpful. The early VCAs are not always=20
labeled.<BR><BR><BR>The attached image looks generally like most of =
the=20
early VCAs.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
------=_NextPart_000_005C_01C5E175.C1D9B220--Presently running a pair Noteperfect Alpha Pro via a Hafler P1500...so far
mixes are translating well on other systems including other studios in town.
Only thing I have to be aware of is my room is a tad hot in the mids and
highs so I have to be careful with the bottom end...that problem I'll be
addressing shortly with acoustic treatments
All in all I'd say I'm looking for a little more clarity in my mixes rather
than puch as I have plenty of that
DOn
"cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote in message
news:436c02c9$1@linux...
>
> Also, Don, what is your monitor situation like?
>
>
>
> "benjamin" <none@a.a> wrote:
>> I went through this same thing recently. First thing I did was purchase
> an
>>Apogee Big Ben. There was a noticable difference with big ben. Most
>>noticable in a wider sound field. It was really obvious when going back
> to
>>internal sync. I'd say it made a good 5% increase in quality.
>> The next thing I did was purchase a bunch of outboard gear. I was using
>
>>various gear in the external loops using the stock PARIS converters. The
>
>>biggest difference was strapping a Drawmer 1968 across the master bus. I'm
>
>>talking 20% increase in quality. Tracks really glued together. NoLimit
>>pales
>
>>in comparison.
>> Then I purchased an Apogee DA and AD-16x. Even at 20bit (via ADAT) the
>
>>sound became less boxy, and more "pro" sounding. Increase in highs,
>>tighter
>
>>bass, wider sound field. A good 10% better than the stock converters.
>>I have since switched to an RME/cubase SX system.
>>
>>Anyway, if I could have only made one move, it would be the 1968 across
> the
>>mix bus.
>>
>>
>>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:436b91a9@linux...
>>> What do you think of updating with an external wordclock and a high end
>
>>> D/A converter in lieu of a stereo compressor
>>>
>>> Thoughts and suggestions are more than welcome
>>>
>>> Don
>>>
>>
>>>>>And it's a wonderful looking day outside. :o)<<<
In Melbourne ??? ;-p
--
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:436be7a4$1@linux...
>
>
> No I don't own the place, but my hope is that this will be the last
> renter.
> If I hang in here a couple of years I should be able to get the finances
> together to make a purchase with any luck. It's all part of the plan. When
> I buy I likely wont be able to afford a place this close to the city, so
> I want to live in here a bit and get some good quality "living" done in
> the
> hope that when I buy I'm ready to move a bit further out...
>
> ...of course it could well backfire and have me end up just getting used
> to the inner city lifestyle. We'll see. ;o)
>
> It is great though. This morning, for example, is Saturday and I've gotten
> up at 8:00 or so. At the old place the other two residents don't really
> get
> up until midday or so, so there would usually be about four hours of tippy
> toes around the house making no noise until everyone wakes up, trying to
> find things to do which are quiet. Here, on the other hand, I can do what
> I like. All the doors are open, the stereo's on.
>
>>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
> "uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>Do you own? That's the real deal, the feeling of empowerment that cannot
> be
>>beaten.
>>
>>I'll never forget my first apartment. I rented, but the feeling of privacy
>>and autonomy was tactile. Awesome feeling.
>>
>>Jimmy
>>
>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:436b37f1$1@linux...
>>>
>>>
>>> Well, I'm officially in and living on my own for the first time ever.
> :o)
>>> It's been an adventure and a lot of work in the move.
>>>
>>> The guts of home is here. I've still got some minor stuff to move...
> one
>>> keyboard and it's indoor stand, and various other accessories, but
>>> overall
>>> things here are set up and happenning. The Paris system hasn't been set
> up
>>> yet mind you. It's in peices awaiting me to work out a method of getting
>>> the Paris desk inside. ;o) When I built the desk it was built to use,
> not
>>> built to move, or get in and out. ;o)
>>>
>>> But overall, the kitchen works... the lounge works... the bedroom
>>works...
>>> the toilet works... the phone works... mind you the internet doesn't
>>> work yet. I'm currently on some kind of wireless "go anywhere" system
> my
>>> work is trialing (fortunately) on my laptop. It's due to be connected
> next
>>> week though, and once that happens the newsgroup server will be moving
>>with
>>> me. It's currently sitting in my old bedroom at my previous residence
> in
>>> an empty room. Doing it's job still I see though. ;o)
>>>
>>> The great news is that this Friday night PBS radio are playing some
>>> great
>>> funk! The other great news is that I have fantastic TV reception here
>>compared
>>> to the old place. I can pick up every free to air channel better than
> I've
>>> ever seen before through the main antenna in the lounge, and quite well
>>through
>>> my dodgy rabbit ears in my bedroom. I'm enjoying picking up ABC and SBS
>>for
>>> once, the "government" and "world" TV stations.
>>>
>>> Living on my own is certainly a new thing. I have very little cash
>>> though
>>> at the moment, as I spent it all on those little bits that you don't
>>> know
>>> you don't have until you move out of the share house and go "Hold on!
> I
>>don't
>>> have a..." ;o)
>>>
>>> It's going to be fun though. It's wonderful to live somewhere you can
>>watch
>>> what you want, see who you want, put on the CD you want, listen to the
>>radio
>>> station you want, and not be questioned about the whole thing. :o)
>>>
>>> Life is good. :o)
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Kim.
>>
>>
>Hey been out for a bit the usual moved working a lot. So what ever came
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---=_linux436c15a5--Yes Aaron, you're right... that pictures are from my and my
friends spare components...
But there is a huge potential.... to make a database with revisions, ROM-s,
etc...
Via software? Definitely no...
maybe few things from "paris information" window.
I'm wondering is there any MEC or ADAT with ROM higher than 1.00...
Cheers!
Suad
"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message news:436997c6@linux...
> This is a really good idea, but the problem is taking a working rig apart
to
> get that info... which I'm not sure too many users can/will do. Is there
a
> way anyone is aware of to get this kind of info w/o pulling a rig apart,
> say.. via software?
> AA
>
>
> "Suad" <suad@sail.hr> wrote in message news:43677648@linux...
> > Hello.
> >
> > Well, there are three cosmeticly different PARIS bundle 3 systems.
> > Black with imbus screws, than black with cross(phillips) screws and
blue.
> >
> > BUT, how many revisions are under the hood?
> > Every board inside the MEC, I/O, ADAT, EDS, etc.. has some
> > PCB (board) revision, year of manufacture and the firmware (ROM chip).
> >
> > I thought that we could make come research on how many revisions of
> > paris components and Firmware(ROM) revisions are there and which
> > ones are the newest.
> > ROM chips are easy to copy, so we can make some exchange.
> >
> > That could be an excelent guide to answer "why some Paris configurations
> > are working for someone and for someone not", and why some
configurations
> > doesn't work at all.
> >
> > Here are some pictures and revisions of some paris parts....
> >
> > I hope there will be a huge response for this topic.
> >
> > Greetings to all!!
> >
> > Suad Cokljat
> > Indigo Audio
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>I can tell, this is obviously a question that DJ will probably know the answer
to quick...
I'm still having issues with my Paris system routing audio from my AD cards
into the mixer on Submix 2....This is a pain in the ass..meanwhile i have
to work, so...
I can use the first 16 tracks just fine on my Paris rig, and i'm having to
record the last 8 tracks to my Cubase/RME/Digimax LT setup. I WC everything
together with mr Ben and i just hit record and get all 24 tracks...the last
two times i've done this i've sent the snare track to both setups so I can
lock them together when mixing. I really don't know if this is going to give
me good results or not, but it almost doesn't matter, the last 6-8 tracks
are room (I do live recordings, 1-16 are the stage, 17-24 are the room, etc)
My question is, can i lock these together somehow? is SMPTE my answer? or
should I just fukkin fix the paris rig and shut up about it.
It is curious to me though, i'd like to know how to lock these tracks together
when i go to mix in Cubase and pull all the Paris tracks in with the 8 roomm
mics.
Thanks,
Dave"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
> >>>And it's a wonderful looking day outside. :o)<<<
>In Melbourne ??? ;-p
Hehe. Yes! It's 23 and not a cloud in the sky...
....and my mate trev's havin' a barby this arvo. ;o)
Cheers,
Kim.Jamey Tiffee <jstiffee_nospam@allassomusic.com> wrote:
>Hey been out for a bit the usual moved working a lot. So what ever came
>of the skinning last I heard someone was going to start a place to keep
>them.
Yes that was me, and sorry I've been very slack... if you can call moving
house slack. ;o) Now that I'm moved and have less people to distract me though
with any luck I might get it done "soon". ;o)
Cheers,
Kim.Looks like things have been busy around here this week. I see some posts
that look like I might be of help. I'll get around to answers tomorrow.
I have been in northern New Mexico the last few days(Santa Fe, Taos and
Espanola/Abuquiu area). Today around sunset I stopped for gas in the
beautiful little mountain village of Chama New Mexico. I was tired and it
was getting cold. Snow was falling on the peaks surrounding the town. I made
myself a cup of coffee and took a while to chat with the owner of the
station. We sat by a big pot bellied wood stove drinking coffee and in a few
minutes, a nose pushed the door open between the garage bays and the office
and in hopped his 12 year old German Shepherd. The dog had a lot of battle
scars and had recently had a stroke. rendering one of his hind legs useless
He only had one good eye left. He whimpered a bit and was obviously in pain.
He laid down next to the stove between me and his person and gave me a look
that said, "I may be old and hurt, but I'm still top dog so don't mess with
my owner" It was really touching. His owner told me that today was his last
day on earth. The old dog had major nerve damage due to the stroke and was
in increasing pain. He was going to take him to the vet tomorrow and end his
suffering. I thought about how I have experienced the same thing with my own
pets. The old dog settled down by the fire and started to doze and I could
see the owner's chin start to quiver a bit as he started down at his old
friend. My chin quivered a bit too. I finally got up to go. The sun was
almost gone and I had 2 hours of mountain driving to finish before I got
home. As I opened the door, the owner called to the old dog, pointed to me,
grinned, winked and said "sick'em" !!! His old dog, obviously a guard dog,
jumped up, bristled and gave me a good woof'in for a final send off. I gave
them both a grin and big thumbs up and headed to the car. Somehow I felt
special to have been there for this old dog's last day. I hope he has a
peaceful night without any pain and an easy sendoff tomorrow.
I'm really tired tonight. It's good to be back home.
C'ya tomorrow.
DeejLuxury...
BTW, Sydney is 21C and cloudy/rainy.
--
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:436c3540@linux...
>
> "Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>> >>>And it's a wonderful looking day outside. :o)<<<
>>In Melbourne ??? ;-p
>
> Hehe. Yes! It's 23 and not a cloud in the sky...
>
> ...and my mate trev's havin' a barby this arvo. ;o)
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.Gene,
Thanks for the heads up. I didn't realize Tri-Tone had a forum site. I just
downloaded the Beta and can't wait to try it out tomorrow. I joined the
forum also. I hope they send out a notification when the full release is
available. I'd hate to miss the special pricing! I'm really digging Valve
Tone '62.
Thanks Again,
Tony
On 11/4/05 9:15 PM, in article 436c15a5$1@linux, "gene lennon"
<glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>
> If you use a Mac and have an interest in TriTone Digital plugins, the pro
> version of ColorTone is available for download as a beta demo. This is a
> convolution based tone shaper with some unique new concepts and a library
> of great sounding impulse responses. It also allows you to add your own IRs.
>
> The included impulses files are named somewhat cryptically to avoid legal
> issues, but each one I have tested so far sounds very good.
>
>
> http://www.tritonedigital.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=399& highlight=
>Welcome home Deej.
Tony
On 11/4/05 11:10 PM, in article 436c3f73@linux, "DJ"
<animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> Looks like things have been busy around here this week. I see some posts
> that look like I might be of help. I'll get around to answers tomorrow.
>
> I have been in northern New Mexico the last few days(Santa Fe, Taos and
> Espanola/Abuquiu area). Today around sunset I stopped for gas in the
> beautiful little mountain village of Chama New Mexico. I was tired and it
> was getting cold. Snow was falling on the peaks surrounding the town. I made
> myself a cup of coffee and took a while to chat with the owner of the
> station. We sat by a big pot bellied wood stove drinking coffee and in a few
> minutes, a nose pushed the door open between the garage bays and the office
> and in hopped his 12 year old German Shepherd. The dog had a lot of battle
> scars and had recently had a stroke. rendering one of his hind legs useless
> He only had one good eye left. He whimpered a bit and was obviously in pain.
> He laid down next to the stove between me and his person and gave me a look
> that said, "I may be old and hurt, but I'm still top dog so don't mess with
> my owner" It was really touching. His owner told me that today was his last
> day on earth. The old dog had major nerve damage due to the stroke and was
> in increasing pain. He was going to take him to the vet tomorrow and end his
> suffering. I thought about how I have experienced the same thing with my own
> pets. The old dog settled down by the fire and started to doze and I could
> see the owner's chin start to quiver a bit as he started down at his old
> friend. My chin quivered a bit too. I finally got up to go. The sun was
> almost gone and I had 2 hours of mountain driving to finish before I got
> home. As I opened the door, the owner called to the old dog, pointed to me,
> grinned, winked and said "sick'em" !!! His old dog, obviously a guard dog,
> jumped up, bristled and gave me a good woof'in for a final send off. I gave
> them both a grin and big thumbs up and headed to the car. Somehow I felt
> special to have been there for this old dog's last day. I hope he has a
> peaceful night without any pain and an easy sendoff tomorrow.
>
> I'm really tired tonight. It's good to be back home.
>
> C'ya tomorrow.
>
> Deej
>
>Greetings All!
Aaron Allen sent me some miscellaneous PARIS related files that I've posted
on the web at www.mercysakes.com/paris. Thanks Aaron! I've also added a few
more tid bits I found hiding on my various hard drives. All this stuff has
been around the group over the years, but not available for download in one
place as far as I know. There's not a lot there yet, but feel free to check
it out and see if you find anything of interest.
Again, anyone who has any files they'd like to make available for download
on the web is welcome to send me the files (or a disc if the files are too
large to email) and I'll post them up for everyone to feast on.
I've been talking with Morgan from East Coast Music Mall and soon we'll have
a cool little challenge put together. The challenge files will be posted for
all to download. I'll let him explain the details, but it sounds like it
will be fun and enlightening as well. Morgan also mentioned some other files
he'd like to post up for reference. More on this soon.
I'm also interested in adding a "central repository", as it were, of music
created using PARIS. We don't want to violate any copyright laws of course,
so this would have to be music wholly owned by the person submitting it or
for which they have permission to post. If anyone has any interest in this,
let me know.
Thanks,
Tony
www.mercysakes.com/parisOn the Adat ROM v.1.0 is the only version. Around 1999 I asked E P, MM, and
KM if we got a newer version of the Alesis ROM chip would the Adat card pass
24bits. They all got silent, look dumbfounded, and EP said I don't know
why don't you find out and let us know. Well I was a P. dealer not their
R & D department. I should have seen the writing on the wall, that they
were not serious about developing the hardware. It is my opinion that they
wanted to slap paint and software on the product and liquidate there inventory!
I have thought of contacting Alesis, but I think it would take a software
rewrite, and that is not likely to happen.
JM
"Suad" <suad@sail.hr> wrote:
>Yes Aaron, you're right... that pictures are from my and my
>friends spare components...
>But there is a huge potential.... to make a database with revisions, ROM-s,
>etc...
>
>Via software? Definitely no...
>maybe few things from "paris information" window.
>
>I'm wondering is there any MEC or ADAT with ROM higher than 1.00...
>
>Cheers!
>
>Suad
>
>
>"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message news:436997c6@linux...
>> This is a really good idea, but the problem is taking a working rig apart
>to
>> get that info... which I'm not sure too many users can/will do. Is there
>a
>> way anyone is aware of to get this kind of info w/o pulling a rig apart,
>> say.. via software?
>> AA
>>
>>
>> "Suad" <suad@sail.hr> wrote in message news:43677648@linux...
>> > Hello.
>> >
>> > Well, there are three cosmeticly different PARIS bundle 3 systems.
>> > Black with imbus screws, than black with cross(phillips) screws and
>blue.
>> >
>> > BUT, how many revisions are under the hood?
>> > Every board inside the MEC, I/O, ADAT, EDS, etc.. has some
>> > PCB (board) revision, year of manufacture and the firmware (ROM chip).
>> >
>> > I thought that we could make come research on how many revisions of
>> > paris components and Firmware(ROM) revisions are there and which
>> > ones are the newest.
>> > ROM chips are easy to copy, so we can make some exchange.
>> >
>> > That could be an excelent guide to answer "why some Paris configurations
>> > are working for someone and for someone not", and why some
>configurations
>> > doesn't work at all.
>> >
>> > Here are some pictures and revisions of some paris parts....
>> >
>> > I hope there will be a huge response for this topic.
>> >
>> > Greetings to all!!
>> >
>> > Suad Cokljat
>> > Indigo Audio
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>Hey Aaron, as always, thanks!
James
"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>http://housecall.antivirus.com
>
>that should get you right, then you can evaluate if you really want to
>wipe/reload
>
>AA
>
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:436bbb33$1@linux...
>>
>> She still no worky! This machine hasn't been right since I went on the
>> internet
>> with it. I think a bug may be eating my lunch, time to reinstall.
>>
>> Thanks
>> James
>>
>> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>The default is a folder on your desktop called *Unused Desktop Shortcuts*
>>
>>>that is built automatically. Try resizing the desktop and see if possibly
>> it
>>>got pulled out of range of your current desktop... if you're at 1024x768,
>>
>>>move to 800x600, apply, then resize back to 1024x768. Any icons outside
>> of
>>>the viewing area should be pushed back in that way.
>>>
>>>AA
>>>
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:436b05e4$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Aaron! I've got my computer and my docs, but where are all my
>>
>>>> short
>>>> cuts? I the properties, it states that desktop clean up wizard placed
>>
>>>> them
>>>> in a folder. What folder, where?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> James
>>>>
>>>> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>>>Yup. Left click on the desktop, and turn off the desktop cleanup wizard:
>>>>>Left click > properties>desktop tab>customize desktop>general tab,
>>>>>uncheck
>>>>
>>>>>Run Desktop Cleanup Wizard
>>>>>
>>>>>AA
>>>>>
>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:436ab747$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I haven't run my windows XP machine in awhile, I just started it up
>> and
>>>> I
>>>>>> no longer have desk top Icons, what's up with that? It runs Ok, but
>> no
>>>>
>>>>>> Icons.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thought you guys would know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> James
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>there's a country song in there...
On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 22:10:37 -0700, "DJ"
<animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>Looks like things have been busy around here this week. I see some posts
>that look like I might be of help. I'll get around to answers tomorrow.
>
>I have been in northern New Mexico the last few days(Santa Fe, Taos and
>Espanola/Abuquiu area). Today around sunset I stopped for gas in the
>beautiful little mountain village of Chama New Mexico. I was tired and it
>was getting cold. Snow was fa
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ion you want, and not be questioned about the whole thing. :o)
>>>
>>>Life is good. :o)
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Kim.
>>Hey DJ
Have you thought about a 3rd career as a short story writer? A very touching
read.
Good to have you back.
MR
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>Looks like things have been busy around here this week. I see some posts
>that look like I might be of help. I'll get around to answers tomorrow.
>
>I have been in northern New Mexico the last few days(Santa Fe, Taos and
>Espanola/Abuquiu area). Today around sunset I stopped for gas in the
>beautiful little mountain village of Chama New Mexico. I was tired and it
>was getting cold. Snow was falling on the peaks surrounding the town. I
made
>myself a cup of coffee and took a while to chat with the owner of the
>station. We sat by a big pot bellied wood stove drinking coffee and in a
few
>minutes, a nose pushed the door open between the garage bays and the office
>and in hopped his 12 year old German Shepherd. The dog had a lot of battle
>scars and had recently had a stroke. rendering one of his hind legs useless
>He only had one good eye left. He whimpered a bit and was obviously in pain.
>He laid down next to the stove between me and his person and gave me a look
>that said, "I may be old and hurt, but I'm still top dog so don't mess with
>my owner" It was really touching. His owner told me that today was his last
>day on earth. The old dog had major nerve damage due to the stroke and was
>in increasing pain. He was going to take him to the vet tomorrow and end
his
>suffering. I thought about how I have experienced the same thing with my
own
>pets. The old dog settled down by the fire and started to doze and I could
>see the owner's chin start to quiver a bit as he started down at his old
>friend. My chin quivered a bit too. I finally got up to go. The sun was
>almost gone and I had 2 hours of mountain driving to finish before I got
>home. As I opened the door, the owner called to the old dog, pointed to
me,
>grinned, winked and said "sick'em" !!! His old dog, obviously a guard dog,
>jumped up, bristled and gave me a good woof'in for a final send off. I gave
>them both a grin and big thumbs up and headed to the car. Somehow I felt
>special to have been there for this old dog's last day. I hope he has a
>peaceful night without any pain and an easy sendoff tomorrow.
>
>I'm really tired tonight. It's good to be back home.
>
>C'ya tomorrow.
>
>Deej
>
>You touched a nerve here. I had to hold back the tears. Thanks for the beautiful
story.
The guitar player in my band had to put his cat down the other day.
I faced a simillar thing a couple of years ago at the vets advice, but didn't
do it. Now that cat has come back to health, and rules the house again. I
don't like vets so much anymore. A owner just knows when it's time.
Now hurry up and answer all th questions.
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>Looks like things have been busy around here this week. I see some posts
>that look like I might be of help. I'll get around to answers tomorrow.
>
>I have been in northern New Mexico the last few days(Santa Fe, Taos and
>Espanola/Abuquiu area). Today around sunset I stopped for gas in the
>beautiful little mountain village of Chama New Mexico. I was tired and it
>was getting cold. Snow was falling on the peaks surrounding the town. I
made
>myself a cup of coffee and took a while to chat with the owner of the
>station. We sat by a big pot bellied wood stove drinking coffee and in a
few
>minutes, a nose pushed the door open between the garage bays and the office
>and in hopped his 12 year old German Shepherd. The dog had a lot of battle
>scars and had recently had a stroke. rendering one of his hind legs useless
>He only had one good eye left. He whimpered a bit and was obviously in pain.
>He laid down next to the stove between me and his person and gave me a look
>that said, "I may be old and hurt, but I'm still top dog so don't mess with
>my owner" It was really touching. His owner told me that today was his last
>day on earth. The old dog had major nerve damage due to the stroke and was
>in increasing pain. He was going to take him to the vet tomorrow and end
his
>suffering. I thought about how I have experienced the same thing with my
own
>pets. The old dog settled down by the fire and started to doze and I could
>see the owner's chin start to quiver a bit as he started down at his old
>friend. My chin quivered a bit too. I finally got up to go. The sun was
>almost gone and I had 2 hours of mountain driving to finish before I got
>home. As I opened the door, the owner called to the old dog, pointed to
me,
>grinned, winked and said "sick'em" !!! His old dog, obviously a guard dog,
>jumped up, bristled and gave me a good woof'in for a final send off. I gave
>them both a grin and big thumbs up and headed to the car. Somehow I felt
>special to have been there for this old dog's last day. I hope he has a
>peaceful night without any pain and an easy sendoff tomorrow.
>
>I'm really tired tonight. It's good to be back home.
>
>C'ya tomorrow.
>
>Deej
>
>How do I know how old one is. I thin mine is about 15 years or more.
Tom, do you know a repair guy named Bo Dixon here in Boston? He works out
of the basemant at New Alliance. He has done a few small things for me that
all work well. I have also heard some mixed reviews though.
"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>
>
>Last time I talked w/DBx, Tom Cram was the dude I spoke with, super =
>guy/real helpful. I highly recommend him, he was instrumental in helping
=
>me rebuild one of my 160's when I got them a few years back.=20
>
>tcram AT dbxpro DOT com
>
>AA
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
>news:436ba859@linux...
> Thanks for the help Gene and Aaron.
>
> >Some of the old 166 compressors with the original DBX VCA do sound =
>good.
> >Closer to a 160VU than any other DBX. =20
>
> The problem is that my 166 needs repair. It's not worth repairing if
> it isn't the model Gene refers to. I bought the 166 for $1,000 when =
>they first
> came out. I had to wait for delivery to the store. I'm pretty sure =
>it was out of the
> first run. I am running the serial number by DBX to see what they =
>say. Also
> looking for specialists in this field. I might call Eric at Earth =
>Works.
>
> Thanks for the info,
> Tom
>
> "gene lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote in message =
>news:436b89f4$1@linux...
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >Gene,
> >I have a very early 166 and a 161VU. Is it possible they
> >use the same vca?!?! I couldn't find anything out doing a=3D20
> >google search about it. I wonder if the new DBX (Harmon) =
>would=3D20
> >have any records on that? I'd open them up and look
> >but I'm not sure which component is the VCA. =3D20
> >
> >Any tips for me to learn more? I'll look inside for clues.
> >Tom
> >
> I know the 163 and the 166 share the same VCA (except as noted) and
=
>these
> both have different envelopes-of-attack from the 161. This has a lot
=
>to do
> with the overall sound.
> I should point out that the person who told me about some of the =
>early 166
> boxes was not from DBX, but was a technician that I trusted and he =
>should
> have known. I could be wrong about this.
> You should be in a good position to listen to the two units side by
=
>side.
> This is really the best way anyway, particularly since many of the =
>older
> units are way overdue for a rebuild/recalibration.
> Looking inside is not always helpful. The early VCAs are not always
=
>labeled.
>
>
> The attached image looks generally like most of the early VCAs.
>
>
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><HTML><HEAD>
><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
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><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Last time I talked w/DBx, Tom Cram was
=
>the dude I=20
>spoke with, super guy/real helpful. I highly recommend him, he was =
>instrumental=20
>in helping me rebuild one of my 160's when I got them a few years back.=20
></FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A =
>href=3D"mailto:tcram@dbxpro.com">tcram AT dbxpro=20
>DOT com</A></FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>AA</FONT></DIV>
><BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
>in message=20
> <A href=3D"news:436ba859@linux">news:436ba859@linux</A>...</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for the help Gene and =
>Aaron.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV>>Some of the old 166 compressors with the original DBX VCA do =
>sound=20
> good.<BR>>Closer to a 160VU than any other DBX. </DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The problem is that my 166 needs =
>
> repair. It's not worth repairing if</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>it isn't the model Gene refers =
>to. I bought=20
> the 166 for $1,000 when they first</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>came out. I had to wait for =
>delivery to the=20
> store. I'm pretty sure it was out of the</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>first run. I am running the =
>serial number=20
> by DBX to see what they say. Also</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>looking for specialists in this =
>field. I=20
> might call Eric at Earth Works.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for the info,</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <BLOCKQUOTE=20
> style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV>"gene lennon" <<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com">glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com</A>&g=
>t;=20
> wrote in message <A=20
> =
>href=3D"news:436b89f4$1@linux">news:436b89f4$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>"Tom=
>=20
> Bruhl" <<A =
>href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
> wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Gene,<BR>>I have a very early 166 =
>and a=20
> 161VU. Is it possible they<BR>>use the same vca?!?! I =
>
> couldn't find anything out doing a=3D20<BR>>google search about =
>it. I=20
> wonder if the new DBX (Harmon) would=3D20<BR>>have any records on =
>
> that? I'd open them up and look<BR>>but I'm not sure which=20
> component is the VCA. =3D20<BR>><BR>>Any tips for me to learn=20
> more? I'll look inside for clues.<BR>>Tom<BR>><BR>I know =
>the 163=20
> and the 166 share the same VCA (except as noted) and these<BR>both =
>have=20
> different envelopes-of-attack from the 161. This has a lot to =
>do<BR>with the=20
> overall sound.<BR>I should point out that the person who told me =
>about some=20
> of the early 166<BR>boxes was not from DBX, but was a technician =
>that I=20
> trusted and he should<BR>have known. I could be wrong about =
>this.<BR>You=20
> should be in a good position to listen to the two units side by=20
> side.<BR>This is really the best way anyway, particularly since many
=
>of the=20
> older<BR>units are way overdue for a =
>rebuild/recalibration.<BR>Looking=20
> inside is not always helpful. The early VCAs are not always=20
> labeled.<BR><BR><BR>The attached image looks generally like most of
=
>the=20
> early VCAs.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
>
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Cujo,
Not familiar with him. Where is New Alliance?
Tom
"cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote in message =
news:436cc85e$1@linux...
How do I know how old one is. I thin mine is about 15 years or more.
Tom, do you know a repair guy named Bo Dixon here in Boston? He works =
out
of the basemant at New Alliance. He has done a few small things for me =
that
all work well. I have also heard some mixed reviews though.
"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>
>
>Last time I talked w/DBx, Tom Cram was the dude I spoke with, super =
=3D
>guy/real helpful. I highly recommend him, he was instrumental in =
helping
=3D
>me rebuild one of my 160's when I got them a few years back.=3D20
>
>tcram AT dbxpro DOT com
>
>AA
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =3D
>news:436ba859@linux...
> Thanks for the help Gene and Aaron.
>
> >Some of the old 166 compressors with the original DBX VCA do sound =
=3D
>good.
> >Closer to a 160VU than any other DBX. =3D20
>
> The problem is that my 166 needs repair. It's not worth repairing =
if
> it isn't the model Gene refers to. I bought the 166 for $1,000 =
when =3D
>they first
> came out. I had to wait for delivery to the store. I'm pretty =
sure =3D
>it was out of the
> first run. I am running the serial number by DBX to see what they =
=3D
>say. Also
> looking for specialists in this field. I might call Eric at Earth =
=3D
>Works.
>
> Thanks for the info,
> Tom
>
> "gene lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote in message =3D
>news:436b89f4$1@linux...
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >Gene,
> >I have a very early 166 and a 161VU. Is it possible they
> >use the same vca?!?! I couldn't find anything out doing =
a=3D3D20
> >google search about it. I wonder if the new DBX (Harmon) =3D
>would=3D3D20
> >have any records on that? I'd open them up and look
> >but I'm not sure which component is the VCA. =3D3D20
> >
> >Any tips for me to learn more? I'll look inside for clues.
> >Tom
> >
> I know the 163 and the 166 share the same VCA (except as noted) =
and
=3D
>these
> both have different envelopes-of-attack from the 161. This has a =
lot
=3D
>to do
> with the overall sound.
> I should point out that the person who told me about some of the =
=3D
>early 166
> boxes was not from DBX, but was a technician that I trusted and =
he =3D
>should
> have known. I could be wrong about this.
> You should be in a good position to listen to the two units side =
by
=3D
>side.
> This is really the best way anyway, particularly since many of =
the =3D
>older
> units are way overdue for a rebuild/recalibration.
> Looking inside is not always helpful. The early VCAs are not =
always
=3D
>labeled.
>
>
> The attached image looks generally like most of the early VCAs.
>
>
><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
><HTML><HEAD>
><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
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></HEAD>
><BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Last time I talked w/DBx, Tom =
Cram was
=3D
>the dude I=3D20
>spoke with, super guy/real helpful. I highly recommend him, he was =
=3D
>instrumental=3D20
>in helping me rebuild one of my 160's when I got them a few years =
back.=3D20
></FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><A =3D
>href=3D3D"mailto:tcram@dbxpro.com">tcram AT dbxpro=3D20
>DOT com</A></FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>AA</FONT></DIV>
><BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3Dltr=3D20
>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
=3D
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote =3D
>in message=3D20
> <A href=3D3D"news:436ba859@linux">news:436ba859@linux</A>...</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Thanks for the help Gene and =
=3D
>Aaron.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV>>Some of the old 166 compressors with the original DBX VCA do =
=3D
>sound=3D20
> good.<BR>>Closer to a 160VU than any other DBX. </DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>The problem is that my 166 =
needs =3D
>
> repair. It's not worth repairing if</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>it isn't the model Gene refers =
=3D
>to. I bought=3D20
> the 166 for $1,000 when they first</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>came out. I had to wait for =
=3D
>delivery to the=3D20
> store. I'm pretty sure it was out of the</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>first run. I am running the =
=3D
>serial number=3D20
> by DBX to see what they say. Also</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>looking for specialists in =
this =3D
>field. I=3D20
> might call Eric at Earth Works.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Thanks for the =
info,</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
> style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
=3D
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV>"gene lennon" <<A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D"mailto:glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com">glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com</A=
>&g=3D
>t;=3D20
> wrote in message <A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D"news:436b89f4$1@linux">news:436b89f4$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>"=
Tom=3D
>=3D20
> Bruhl" <<A =3D
>href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20
> wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Gene,<BR>>I have a very early 166 =3D
>and a=3D20
> 161VU. Is it possible they<BR>>use the same vca?!?! I =3D
>
> couldn't find anything out doing a=3D3D20<BR>>google search about =
=3D
>it. I=3D20
> wonder if the new DBX (Harmon) would=3D3D20<BR>>have any records =
on =3D
>
> that? I'd open them up and look<BR>>but I'm not sure which=3D20
> component is the VCA. =3D3D20<BR>><BR>>Any tips for me to =
learn=3D20
> more? I'll look inside for clues.<BR>>Tom<BR>><BR>I know =3D
>the 163=3D20
> and the 166 share the same VCA (except as noted) and =
these<BR>both =3D
>have=3D20
> different envelopes-of-attack from the 161. This has a lot to =3D
>do<BR>with the=3D20
> overall sound.<BR>I should point out that the person who told me =
=3D
>about some=3D20
> of the early 166<BR>boxes was not from DBX, but was a technician =
=3D
>that I=3D20
> trusted and he should<BR>have known. I could be wrong about =3D
>this.<BR>You=3D20
> should be in a good position to listen to the two units side =
by=3D20
> side.<BR>This is really the best way anyway, particularly since =
many
=3D
>of the=3D20
> older<BR>units are way overdue for a =3D
>rebuild/recalibration.<BR>Looking=3D20
> inside is not always helpful. The early VCAs are not always=3D20
> labeled.<BR><BR><BR>The attached image looks generally like most =
of
=3D
>the=3D20
> early VCAs.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Cujo,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Not familiar with him. Where is =
New=20
Alliance?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
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<DIV>"cujo" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com">chris@nospamapplemanstudio=
..com</A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:436cc85e$1@linux">news:436cc85e$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR><BR>=
How do=20
I know how old one is. I thin mine is about 15 years or more.<BR>Tom, =
do you=20
know a repair guy named Bo Dixon here in Boston? He works out<BR>of =
the=20
basemant at New Alliance. He has done a few small things for me =
that<BR>all=20
work well. I have also heard some mixed reviews =
though.<BR><BR><BR>"Aaron=20
Allen" <<A =
href=3D"mailto:nospam@not_here.dude">nospam@not_here.dude</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Last time I talked w/DBx, Tom Cram was =
the dude=20
I spoke with, super =3D<BR>>guy/real helpful. I highly recommend =
him, he was=20
instrumental in helping<BR>=3D<BR>>me rebuild one of my 160's when =
I got them=20
a few years back.=3D20<BR>><BR>>tcram AT dbxpro DOT=20
com<BR>><BR>>AA<BR>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
in message=20
=3D<BR>>news:436ba859@linux...<BR>> Thanks for the help =
Gene and=20
Aaron.<BR>><BR>> >Some of the old 166 compressors with =
the=20
original DBX VCA do sound =3D<BR>>good.<BR>> >Closer to =
a 160VU=20
than any other DBX. =3D20<BR>><BR>> The problem is that my =
166 needs=20
repair. It's not worth repairing if<BR>> it isn't the =
model=20
Gene refers to. I bought the 166 for $1,000 when =3D<BR>>they =
first<BR>> came out. I had to wait for delivery to the=20
store. I'm pretty sure =3D<BR>>it was out of =
the<BR>> first=20
run. I am running the serial number by DBX to see what they=20
=3D<BR>>say. Also<BR>> looking for specialists in =
this=20
field. I might call Eric at Earth =
=3D<BR>>Works.<BR>><BR>> =20
Thanks for the info,<BR>> =
Tom<BR>><BR>> "gene=20
lennon" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com">glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com</A>&g=
t;=20
wrote in message=20
=3D<BR>>news:436b89f4$1@linux...<BR>><BR>> =
"Tom=20
Bruhl" <<A =
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> =20
><BR>> >Gene,<BR>> =
>I have=20
a very early 166 and a 161VU. Is it possible=20
they<BR>> >use the same vca?!?! I =
couldn't find=20
anything out doing a=3D3D20<BR>> >google =
search about=20
it. I wonder if the new DBX (Harmon)=20
=3D<BR>>would=3D3D20<BR>> >have any records =
on=20
that? I'd open them up and look<BR>> =
>but I'm=20
not sure which component is the VCA. =3D3D20<BR>> =
><BR>> >Any tips for me to learn =
more? I'll=20
look inside for clues.<BR>> =20
>Tom<BR>> ><BR>> I =
know the=20
163 and the 166 share the same VCA (except as noted)=20
and<BR>=3D<BR>>these<BR>> both have different=20
envelopes-of-attack from the 161. This has a lot<BR>=3D<BR>>to=20
do<BR>> with the overall =
sound.<BR>> =20
I should point out that the person who told me about some of the=20
=3D<BR>>early 166<BR>> boxes was not from DBX, =
but was a=20
technician that I trusted and he =
=3D<BR>>should<BR>> =20
have known. I could be wrong about this.<BR>> You =
should=20
be in a good position to listen to the two units side=20
by<BR>=3D<BR>>side.<BR>> This is really the =
best way=20
anyway, particularly since many of the=20
=3D<BR>>older<BR>> units are way overdue for a =
rebuild/recalibration.<BR>> Looking inside is not =
always=20
helpful. The early VCAs are not=20
=
always<BR>=3D<BR>>labeled.<BR>><BR>> <BR>> =
The=20
attached image looks generally like most of the early=20
VCAs.<BR>><BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD =
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bgColor=3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
size=3D3D2>Last=20
time I talked w/DBx, Tom Cram was<BR>=3D<BR>>the dude =
I=3D20<BR>>spoke with,=20
super guy/real helpful. I highly recommend him, he was=20
=3D<BR>>instrumental=3D20<BR>>in helping me rebuild one of my =
160's when I=20
got them a few years=20
back.=3D20<BR>></FONT></DIV> <BR>><DIV><FONT =
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</DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><A =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
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href=3D'mailto:tcram@dbxpro.com">tcram'>mailto:tcram@dbxpro.com">tcram=
</A> AT=20
dbxpro=3D20<BR>>DOT=20
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