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Jamie K is currently offline  Jamie K   UNITED STATES
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at was max mobley.
>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OI.com> wrote:
Re: Logic 8.0.1 update is out [message #93735 is a reply to message #93734] Tue, 18 December 2007 01:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rick is currently offline  rick   UNITED STATES
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>>
>>Are we talking about the same Max that used to work for Emu?
>>Shouldn't he get like a lifetime free pass authorization code?
>>
>>Neil
>>
>>
>>Martin Harrington <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>>>There are NO Mac cracks for Paris AFAIK
>>>
>>>Martin Harrington
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
Re: Logic 8.0.1 update is out [message #93736 is a reply to message #93734] Tue, 18 December 2007 01:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rick is currently offline  rick   UNITED STATES
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/> >>>On 9/2/08 1:32 PM, in article 47ad02b8$1@linux, "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Just use the cracked version
>>>
>>
>I appreciate the concern for my efforts and art. Truly, I do. Gives me the
fuzzies :)

However, any way you cut it Chuck left the reins in my hands and I'm not
making/selling them... so, basically I was just saying although I don't have
any to sell I really don't care either way to be honest. Hook the dude up,
Re: Logic 8.0.1 update is out [message #93746 is a reply to message #93736] Tue, 18 December 2007 19:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DJ is currently offline  DJ   FRANCE
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;>> products. They dropped Computer from their name, which people thought
>> they
>>>> wanted to be thought of as a consumer products company. Fasten your
seat
>>>> belts, I have a feeling it's about to get bumpy.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe all the time it took them to get Logic 8 out, took a toll on
them.
>>>> Once again, the big companies can sell a lot more stuff to the masses
>> then
>>>> they can to a few pro and semi pro musicians / video guys.
>>>>
>>>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Chris,
>>>>>
>>>>> I've heard speculation from video producers that Avid is putting more
>> into
>>>>> their road show than trade shows, but there is also the mino
Re: Logic 8.0.1 update is out [message #93749 is a reply to message #93746] Wed, 19 December 2007 01:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jamie K is currently offline  Jamie K   UNITED STATES
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ef="http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080212-first-look-haiku-poetically-resurrects-beos.html" target="_blank"> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080212-first-look-hai ku-poetically-resurrects-beos.html
>>>
>>> I remember taking a lot of stick for pointing out that taking on Apple,
>
>>> M$FT,
>>> and linux all at the same time might not prove to be a great business
>
>>> plan.
>>>
>>>
>>> TCB
>

--
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www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.comAround 1996 Apple was getting ready to buy BeOS for 100 million when Jobs
came back to Apple and Next won out. I would say 95% of Mac users at the
time wanted Apple to buy BeOS. It is too bad BeOS didn't really survive,
although, somebody is building something based on BeOS, I can't remember
the name of the OS.

So why not run Mac OS hacked on a cheap DIY PC box? That's the alternative,
and it can actually run some software.

"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>Interesting. Good call Thad.
>
>And didn't we say at one time that Google was the most likely source for
a
>new operating system?
>Granted, this is an open source OS that at the moment doesn't appear (from

>the review) to be a truly
>viable alternative yet. Maybe eventually.
>
>The time is right for a new alternative no doubt - what do you think the

>likelihood is of Haiku
>developing into a true competitor though? Doesn't look promising unless

>Google takes it on (sounds like Bruno's project,
>not Google's) and makes it commercial OS with commercial dev resources to

>entice commercial apps - I can't
>see open source luring commercial app developers anytime in the next decade.
>
>Dedric
>
>"TCB" <
Re: Logic 8.0.1 update is out [message #93750 is a reply to message #93749] Wed, 19 December 2007 01:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rick is currently offline  rick   UNITED STATES
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>nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:47b1c784$1@linux...
>>
>> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080212-first-look-hai ku-poetically-resurrects-beos.html
>>
>> I remember taking a lot of stick for pointing out that taking on Apple,

>> M$FT,
>> and linux all at the same time might not prove to be a great business

>> plan.
>>
>>
>> TCB
>>I don't see any reason why Google would want a desktop OS.

>TCB


why? because they can, of course....Ahead of it's time.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1659841654840942756

"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Around 1996 Apple was getting ready to buy BeOS for 100 million when Jobs
>came back to Apple and Next won out. I would say 95% of Mac users at the
>time wanted Apple to buy BeOS. It is too bad BeOS didn't really survive,
>although, somebody is building something based on BeOS, I can't remember
>the name of the OS.
>
>So why not run Mac OS hacked on a cheap DIY PC box? That's the alternative,
>and it can actually run some software.
>
>"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>Interesting. Good call Thad.
>>
>>And didn't we say at one time that Google was the most likely source for
>a
>>new operating system?
>>Granted, this is an open source OS that at the moment doesn't appear (from
>
>>the review) to be a truly
>>viable alternative yet. Maybe eventually.
>>
>>The time is right for a new alternative no doubt - what do you think the
>
>>likelihood is of Haiku
>>developing into a true competitor though? Doesn't look promising unless
>
>>Google takes it on (sounds like Bruno's project,
>>not Google's) and makes it commercial OS with commercial dev resources
to
>
>>entice commercial apps - I can't
>>see open source luring commercial app developers anytime in the next decade.
>>
>>Dedric
>>
>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in mess
Re: Logic 8.0.1 update is out [message #93754 is a reply to message #93749] Wed, 19 December 2007 08:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dedric Terry is currently offline  Dedric Terry   UNITED STATES
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> >>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:47b1c784$1@linux...
>>>> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080212-first-look-hai ku-poetically-resurrects-beos.html
>>>>
>>>> I remember taking a lot of stick for pointing out that taking on Apple,
>>>> M$FT,
>>>> and linux all at the same time might not prove to be a great business
>>>> plan.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> TCB
>Did you watch the section where he loaded 3 movies, 5 applications, graphics
animations, etc, ran the dual cpus (dual PIIs with
only 64M ram), beyond 100% usage, then turned one off - no screetching halt,
freeze or crash - just an elegant scaling down of the allocation of
resources.

Without a doubt, way ahead of it's time. In some ways, it still is.

Dedric

"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:47b1e612$1@linux...
>
> Ahead of it's time.
>
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1659841654840942756
>
> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Around 1996 Apple was getting ready to buy BeOS for 100 million when Jobs
>>came back to Apple and Next won out. I would say 95% of Mac users at the
>>time wanted Apple to buy BeOS. It is too bad BeOS didn't really survive,
>>although, somebody is building something based on BeOS, I can't remember
>>the name of the OS.
>>
>>So why not run Mac OS hacked on a cheap DIY PC box? That's the
>>alternative,
>>and it can actually run some software.
>>
>>"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>Interesting. Good call Thad.
>>>
>>>And didn't we say at one time that Google was the most likely source for
>>a
>>>new operating system?
>>>Granted, this is an open source OS that at the moment doesn't appear
>>>(from
>>
>>>the review) to be a truly
>>>viable alternative yet. Maybe eventually.
>>>
>>>The time is right for a new alternative no doubt - what do you think the
>>
>>>likelihood is of Haiku
>>>developing into a true competitor though? Doesn't look promising unless
>>
>>>Google takes it on (sounds like Bruno's project,
>>>not Google's) and makes it commercial OS with commercial dev resources
> to
>>
>>>entice commercial apps - I can't
>>>see open source luring commercial app developers anytime in the next
>>>decade.
>>>
>>>Dedric
>>>
>>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:47b1c784$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080212-first-look-hai ku-poetically-resurrects-beos.html
>>>>
>>>
Re: Logic 8.0.1 update is out [message #93755 is a reply to message #93750] Wed, 19 December 2007 09:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
excelav is currently offline  excelav   
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;> I remember taking a lot of stick for pointing out that taking on Apple,
>>
>>>> M$FT,
>>>> and linux all at the same time might not prove to be a great business
>>
>>>> plan.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> TCB
>>>
>>
>Yes, James, there is a group working on it. It's in my post, which you obviously
didn't bother to read before responding. It's called Haiku. Here's a haiku
for you.

James sure loves Apple
Balance his viewpoints can lack
Please read carefully

TCB

P.S. There was more to the BeOS deal than you describe here, but let's not
go down that road again . . .
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Around 1996 Apple was getting ready to buy BeOS for 100 million when Jobs
>came back to Apple and Next won out. I would say 95% of Mac users at the
>time wanted Apple to buy BeOS. It is too bad BeOS didn't really survive,
>although, somebody is building something based on BeOS, I can't remember
>the name of the OS.
>
>So why not run Mac OS hacked on a cheap DIY PC box? That's the alternative,
>and it can actually run some software.
>
>"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>Interesting. Good call Thad.
>>
>>And didn't we say at one time that Google was the most likely source for
>a
>>new operating system?
>>Granted, this is an open source OS that at the moment doesn't appear (from
>
>>the review) to be a truly
>>viable alternative yet. Maybe eventually.
>>
>>The time is right for a new alternative no doubt - what do you think the
>
>>likelihood is of Haiku
>>developing into a true competitor though? Doesn't look promising unless
>
>>Google takes it on (sounds like Bruno's project,
>>not Google's) and makes it commercial OS with commercial dev resources
to
>
>>entice commercial apps - I can't
>>see open source luring commercial app developers anytime in the next decade.
>>
>>Dedric
>>
>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:47b1c784$1@linux...
>>>
>>> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080212-first-look-hai ku-poetically-resurrects-beos.html
>>>
>>> I remember taking a lot of stick for pointing out that taking on Apple,
>
>>> M$FT,
>>> and linux all at the same time might not prove to be a great business
>
>>> plan.
>>>
>>>
>>> TCB
>>
>There is another group that was working on a new OS that is a derivative of
BeOS, still can't think of the name, but some day I will post it.

"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>Yes, James, there is a group working on it. It's in my post, which you obviously
>didn't bother to read before respond
Re: Logic 8.0.1 update is out [message #93756 is a reply to message #93754] Wed, 19 December 2007 09:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jamie K is currently offline  Jamie K   UNITED STATES
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ing. It's called Haiku. Here's a haiku
>for you.
>
>James sure loves Apple
>Balance his viewpoints can lack
>Please read carefully
>
>TCB
>
>P.S. There was more to the BeOS deal than you describe here, but let's not
>go down that road again . . .
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Around 1996 Apple was getting ready to buy BeOS for 100 million when Jobs
>>came back to Apple and Next won out. I would say 95% of Mac users at the
>>time wanted Apple to buy BeOS. It is too bad BeOS didn't really survive,
>>although, somebody is building something based on BeOS, I can't remember
>>the name of the OS.
>>
>>So why not run Mac OS hacked on a cheap DIY PC box? That's the alternative,
>>and it can actually run some software.
>>
>>"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>Interesting. Good call Thad.
>>>
>>>And didn't we say at one time that Google was the most likely source for
>>a
>>>new operating system?
>>>Granted, this is an open source OS that at the moment doesn't appear (from
>>
>>>the review) to be a truly
>>>viable alternative yet. Maybe eventually.
>>>
>>>The time is right for a new alternative no doubt - what do you think the
>>
>>>likelihood is of Haiku
>>>developing into a true competitor though? Doesn't look promising unless
>>
>>>Google takes it on (sounds like Bruno's project,
>>>not Google's) and makes it commercial OS with commercial dev resources
>to
>>
>>>entice commercial apps - I can't
>>>see open source luring commercial app developers anytime in the next decade.
>>>
>>>Dedric
>>>
>>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:47b1c784$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080212-first-look-hai ku-poetically-resurrects-beos.html
>>>>
>>>> I remember taking a lot of stick for pointing out that taking on Apple,
>>
>>>> M$FT,
>>>> and linux all at the same time might not prove to be a great business
>>
>>>> plan.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> TCB
>>>
>>
>Funny you mention that, Jamie. I just bought an EEE. When my 1920x1200 Dell
behemoth arrived I was thinking about buying one of those Amazon book reader
things and decided to save a few hundred bucks, spend a few hours on gutenberg.org
and get a real free software box. Nice little device, though the keys are
TINY.

TCB

Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>
>Thanks for the news, Thad.
>
>I like his idea of running it on an Eee PC.
>
>Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
>James McCloskey wrote:
>> Ahead of it's time.
>>
>> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1659841654840942756
>>
>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> Around 1996 Apple was getting ready to buy BeOS for 100 million when
Jobs
>>> came back to Apple and Next won out. I would say 95% of Mac users at
the
>>> time wanted Apple to buy BeOS. It is too bad BeOS didn't really survive,
>>> although, somebody is building something based on BeOS, I can't remember
>>> the name of the OS.
>>>
>>> So why not run Mac OS hacked on a cheap DIY PC box? That's the alternative,
>>> and it can actually run some software.
>>>
>>> "Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>> Interesting. Good call Thad.
>>>>
>>>> And didn't we say at one time that Google was the most likely source
for
>>> a
>>>> new operating system?
>>>> Granted, this is an open source OS that at the moment doesn't appear
(from
>>>> the review) to be a truly
>>>> viable alternative yet. Maybe eventually.
>>>>
>>>> The time is right for a new alternative no doubt - what do you think
the
>>>> likelihood is of Haiku
>>>> developing into a true competitor though? Doesn't look promising unless
>>>> Google takes it on (sounds like Bruno's project,
>>>> not Google's) and makes it commercial OS with commercial dev resources
>> to
>>>> entice commercial apps - I can't
>>>> see open source luring commercial app developers anytime in the next
decade.
>>>>
>>>> Dedric
>>>>
>>>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:47b1c784$1@linux...
>>>>> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080212-first-look-hai ku-poetically-resurrects-beos.html
>>>>>
>>>>> I remember taking a lot of stick for pointing out that taking on Apple,
>>>>> M$FT,
>>>>> and linux all at the same time might not prove to be a great business
>>>>> plan.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> TCB
>>Zeta OS is what I was thinking of. Here is some info on it. Quite a few
OSs have tried to take hold such as Lindows. Haiku looks vary cool, I welcome
it, options are always good. By the way, I wasn't trying to step on your
thread.

http://www.linux.com/feature/43570

http://www.linux.com/feature/54722

http://www.zeta-os.com/cms/custom/lcd/indexe.php

http://arstechnica.com/reviews/os/zeta-1-0.ars

"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>There is another group that was working on a new OS that is a derivative
of
>BeOS, still can't think of the name, but some
Re: Logic 8.0.1 update is out [message #93757 is a reply to message #93750] Wed, 19 December 2007 10:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jamie K is currently offline  Jamie K   UNITED STATES
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day I will post it.
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>
>>Yes, James, there is a group working on it. It's in my post, which you
obviously
>>didn't bother to read before responding. It's called Haiku. Here's a haiku
>>for you.
>>
>>James sure loves Apple
>>Balance his viewpoints can lack
>>Please read carefully
>>
>>TCB
>>
>>P.S. There was more to the BeOS deal than you describe here, but let's
not
>>go down that road again . . .
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Around 1996 Apple was getting ready to buy BeOS for 100 million when Jobs
>>>came back to Apple and Next won out. I would say 95% of Mac users at
the
>>>time wanted Apple to buy BeOS. It is too bad BeOS didn't really survive,
>>>although, somebody is building something based on BeOS, I can't remember
>>>the name of the OS.
>>>
>>>So why not run Mac OS hacked on a cheap DIY PC box? That's the alternative,
>>>and it can actually run some software.
>>>
>>>"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>Interesting. Good call Thad.
>>>>
>>>>And didn't we say at one time that Google was the most likely source
for
>>>a
>>>>new operating system?
>>>>Granted, this is an open source OS that at the moment doesn't appear
(from
>>>
>>>>the review) to be a truly
>>>>viable alternative yet. Maybe eventually.
>>>>
>>>>The time is right for a new alternative no doubt - what do you think
the
>>>
>>>>likelihood is of Haiku
>>>>developing into a true competitor though? Doesn't look promising unless
>>>
>>>>Google takes it on (sounds like Bruno's project,
>>>>not Google's) and makes it commercial OS with commercial dev resources
>>to
>>>
>>>>entice commercial apps - I can't
>>>>see open source luring commercial app developers anytime in the next
decade.
>>>>
>>>>Dedric
>>>>
>>>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:47b1c784$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080212-first-look-hai ku-poetically-resurrects-beos.html
>>>>>
>>>>> I remember taking a lot of stick for pointing out that taking on Apple,
>>>
>>>>> M$FT,
>>>>> and linux all at the same time might not prove to be a great business
>>>
>>>>> plan.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
Re: Logic 8.0.1 update is out [message #93758 is a reply to message #93756] Wed, 19 December 2007 10:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dedric Terry is currently offline  Dedric Terry   UNITED STATES
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TCB
>>>>
>>>
>>
>Is there a way to get Drumatix to sync with Cubase so the beats line up with
the grid? I was hoping this DH_Metronome would do it but I can't even get
it to show up in Cubase.

Thanks
JohnTCB wrote:
> Funny you mention that, Jamie. I just bought an EEE. When my 1920x1200 Dell
> behemoth arrived I was thinking about buying one of those Amazon book reader
> things and decided to save a few hundred bucks, spend a few hours on gutenberg.org
> and get a real free software box. Nice little device, though the keys are
> TINY.

The EEE looks cool. Lots of bang/buck.

I still use a Psion 5mx for an ultra-portable idea box. Very tiny
keyboard. I can touch type on it but not at full speed. The little dude
is way ahead of its time, solid state storage! 16mb internal plus a CF
flash card slot. Takes standard AA batteries that last about a month. I
think it weighs about one pound. Good for typing notes or writing short
articles, and it has a simple audio recorder (lofi - adequate for
singing melodies, doing interviews and dictating ideas).

On the behemoth side, my OSX system currently drives a Dell HD-sized
monitor similar to yours, plus a vertically oriented 19" Samsung monitor
to one side for extra stuff.

Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com



> TCB
>
> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>> Thanks for the news, Thad.
>>
>> I like his idea of running it on an Eee PC.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>> James McCloskey wrote:
>>> Ahead of it's time.
>>>
>>> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1659841654840942756
>>>
>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Around 1996 Apple was getting ready to buy BeOS for 100 million when
> Jobs
>>>> came back to Apple and Next won out. I would say 95% of Mac users at
> the
>>>> time wanted Apple to buy BeOS. It is too bad BeOS didn't really survive,
>>>> although, somebody is building something based on BeOS, I can't remember
>>>> the name of the OS.
>>>>
>>>> So why not run Mac OS hacked on a cheap DIY PC box? That's the alternative,
>>>> and it can actually run some software.
>>>>
>>>> "Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>> Interesting. Good call Thad.
>>>>>
>>>>> And didn't we say at one time that Google was the most likely source
> for
>>>> a
>>>>> new operating system?
>>>>> Granted, this is an open source OS that at the moment doesn't appear
> (from
>>>>> the review) to be a truly
>>>>> viable alternative yet. Maybe eventually.
>>>>>
>>>>> The time is right for a new alternative no doubt - what do you think
> the
>>>>> likelihood is of Haiku
>>>>> developing into a true competitor though? Doesn't look promising unless
>>>>> Google takes it on (sounds like Bruno's project,
>>>>> not Google's) and makes it commercial OS with commercial dev resources
>>> to
>>>>> entice commercial apps - I can't
>>>>> see open source luring commercial app developers anytime in the next
> decade.
>>>>> Dedric
>>>>>
>>>>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:47b1c784$1@linux...
>>>>>> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080212-first-look-hai ku-poetically-resurrects-beos.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I remember taking a lot of stick for pointing out that taking on Apple,
>>>>>> M$FT,
>>>>>> and linux all at the same time might not prove to be a great business
>>>>>> plan.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TCB
> http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/newstex/AFX-001 3-22963070.htm!@##%!! Wow.. Here is the Innoek product link

http://www.innotek.de/index.php?option=com_content&task= view&id=34&Itemid=48Sun is getting their open source act together, they really are. Personally
I think this is _directly_ related to their hiring of Ian Murdoch as their
open source software lead. Ian created this fancy little GNU\linux distro
called Debian that you might have heard me mention once or twice. Linus is
still taking potshots at Sun for not going whole hog, but they've put Java
out under the GPL and bought MySQL (previously they recommended PostGres,
which is a perfectly fine database, but the 'M' in LAMP is still MySQL).


Previously Sun was doing the Apple thing--we want a community to grow around
our open source projects but we don't want to cede any control and by the
way we can use your code in our own closed products. I think with Murdoch's
influence they're learning that it's smarter to either stay closed (the M$FT
model) or really go open. I've been toying with both OpenSolaris project
(Ian's baby at Sun) and the developer editions of closed but free to download
Solaris 10. With Java out under the GPL it's much more attractive to me as
a technology and their IDE (NetBeans) is really fantastic, and Java itself
is no longer the memory leaking ball of sludge it was a few years ago.

Anyway, I see Murdoch's fingerprints all over this because Sun is moving
bit by bit into the truly free software world. Ian has always been the godfather
of Debian and he was the project leader for a while as well. To say the Debian
project leader has to have the patience of a saint is to vastly overrate
most saints. Imagine not just herding cats, but herding not very well s
Re: Logic 8.0.1 update is out [message #93759 is a reply to message #93757] Wed, 19 December 2007 13:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ocialized
cats--some of whom are outright feral--all of whom have 150+ IQs and email
accounts. It seems to me that Ian is slowly bringing the company around more
in a mental state than anything else.

Thanks for the link,

TCB

"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>
> http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/newstex/AFX-001 3-22963070.htmI am setting up a new box, using an ASUS A7V8X-X mobo. The bios won't
recognize the processor, Athlon xp 3200. The fastest the mobo will allow the
processor to run is 700mhz. Do I need to overclock the processor on this
mobo, or should it recognize the Barton processor without any tweaking?
Appreciate any help.

Thanks,
RichI think the XP 3000 is the fastest CPU that will work wit this mobo.


"Rich Lamanna" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:47b2602b$1@linux...
>I am setting up a new box, using an ASUS A7V8X-X mobo. The bios won't
> recognize the processor, Athlon xp 3200. The fastest the mobo will allow
> the
> processor to run is 700mhz. Do I need to overclock the processor on this
> mobo, or should it recognize the Barton processor without any tweaking?
> Appreciate any help.
>
> Thanks,
> Rich
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Around 1996 Apple was getting ready to buy BeOS for 100 million when Jobs
>came back to Apple and Next won out. I would say 95% of Mac users at the
>time wanted Apple to buy BeOS. It is too bad BeOS didn't really survive,
>although, somebody is building something based on BeOS, I can't remember
>the name of the OS.
>
>So why not run Mac OS hacked on a cheap DIY PC box? That's the alternative,
>and it can actually run some software.
>

A little history.

http://arstechnica.com/reviews/os/zeta-1-0.ars

>"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>Interesting. Good call Thad.
>>
>>And didn't we say at one time that Google was the most likely source for
>a
>>new operating system?
>>Granted, this is an open source OS that at the moment doesn't appear (from
>
>>the review) to be a truly
>>viable alternative yet. Maybe eventually.
>>
>>The time is right for a new alternative no doubt - what do you think the
>
>>likelihood is of Haiku
>>developing into a true competitor though? Doesn't look promising unless
>
>>Google takes it on (sounds like Bruno's project,
>>not Google's) and makes it commercial OS with commercial dev resources
to
>
>>entice commercial apps - I can't
>>see open source luring commercial app developers anytime in the next decade.
>>
>>Dedric
>>
>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:47b1c784$1@linux...
>>>
>>> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080212-first-look-hai ku-poetically-resurrects-beos.html
>>>
>>> I remember taking a lot of stick for pointing out that taking on Apple,
>
>>> M$FT,
>>> and linux all at the same time might not prove to be a great business
>
>>> plan.
>>>
>>>
>>> TCB
>>
>Don't think so..
Re: Logic 8.0.1 update is out [message #93760 is a reply to message #93756] Wed, 19 December 2007 13:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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>
Martin Harrington




On 10/2/08 6:59 AM, in article 47adfae2@linux, "Rich Lamanna"
<richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:

> Is there a Mac version of Anti Pace? I'm on a PC and I think I have a
> version somewhere if you need it.
>
> Rich
>
> "max howarth" <max@nospamhere.com> wrote in message news:47ac94c0$1@linux...
>>
>> hi chaps
>>
>> submitted an auth request on the 30th jan and hoped that i might have a
> response
>> by now. had anyone recently had an authorisation? if so how long did it
> take?
>>
>> many thanks
>> max
>
>Is there any old bios update for that mobo to take care of the
problem?
http://support.asus.com/download/download.aspx?SLanguage=en- no

Erling

On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 22:01:17 -0600, "Rich Lamanna"
<richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:

>I am setting up a new box, using an ASUS A7V8X-X mobo. The bios won't
>recognize the processor, Athlon xp 3200. The fastest the mobo will allow the
>processor to run is 700mhz. Do I need to overclock the processor on this
>mobo, or should it recognize the Barton processor without any tweaking?
>Appreciate any help.
>
>Thanks,
>Rich
>In my experience, it can actually run all software.

Leopard on a core2 duo,

Hardware Overview:

Machine Name: Mac
Machine Model: P35-DS3L
Processor Name: Intel® Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @
Processor Speed: 2.4 GHz
Total Number Of Cores: 2
L2 Cache (per processor): 4 MB
Processor Features: FPU VME DE PSE TSC MSR PAE MCE CX8 APIC SEP MTRR
PGE MCA CMOV PAT PSE36 CLFSH DS ACPI MMX FXSR SSE SSE2 SS HTT TM SSE3 MON
DSCPL VMX EST TM2 SSSE3 CX16 TPR PDCM
Memory: 2 GB
Bus Speed: 1.07 GHz
Boot ROM Version: Hack.88Z.int.0sh.061193037 (Award Software
International, Inc.)


Martin Harrington





On 13/2/08 6:06 AM, in article 47b1e014$1@linux, "James McCloskey"
<excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:


> So why not run Mac OS hacked on a cheap DIY PC box? That's the alternative,
> and it can actually run some software.
>Wow, didn't realize that. I just downloaded a pdf of the ASUS manual. I
guess I'll be forced to be a "power" user now and read it :-)

Thanks,
Rich

"Deej" <noway@jose.net> wrote in message news:47b260a4$1@linux...
> I think the XP 3000 is the fastest CPU that will work wit this mobo.
>
>
> "Rich Lamanna" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:47b2602b$1@linux...
> >I am setting up a new box, using an ASUS A7V8X-X mobo. The bios won't
> > recognize the processor, Athlon xp 3200. The fastest the mobo will allow
> > the
> > processor to run is 700mhz. Do I need to overclock the processor on this
> > mobo, or should it recognize the Barton processor without any tweaking?
> > Appreciate any help.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Rich
> >
> >
>
>Thanks Erling. I just downloaded the BIOS upgrade. ASUS has a crash free
thingie so I won't sweat the flash too much. I have to get to work now so
I'll let you know how that goes later.

Rich

"erlilo" <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote in message
news:k8f5r399976teter8vujb85rm5f401vbuk@4ax.com...
> Is there any old bios update for that mobo to take care of the
> problem?
> http://support.asus.com/download/download.aspx?SLanguage=en- no
>
> Erling
>
> On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 22:01:17 -0600, "Rich Lamanna"
> <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> >I am setting up a new box, using an ASUS A7V8X-X mobo. The bios won't
> >recognize the processor, Athlon xp 3200. The fastest the mobo will allow
the
> >processor to run is 700mhz. Do I need to overclock the processor on this
> >mobo, or should it recognize the Barton processor without any tweaking?
> >Appreciate any help.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Rich
> >Hi Thad..I tried to respond to your DADGAD book inquiry,but it bounced
back...I do have some books for $15. Contact me ,and I;ll give you my
address. zmcleod@yahoo.com
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:47b1c784$1@linux...
>
>
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080212-first-look-hai ku-poetically-resurrects-beos.html
>
> I remember taking a lot of stick for pointing out that taking on Apple,
M$FT,
> and linux all at the same time might not prove to be a great business
plan.
>
>
> TCBIs Drumatix a VSTi? I tried to google it & also checked on KVR's
website, but couldn't find diddly-squat. Where do you get it
from?

(FYI, I'm using the LM-7 as a click, too on a project I just
started some pre-production on & it's working out great...
even the drummer can hear the sidestick click just fine in the
cans, over his own kit & the other instruments if I boost the
sidestick to max output.)

Neil



"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>Is there a way to get Drumatix to sync with Cubase so the beats line up
with
>the grid? I was hoping this DH_Metronome would do it but I can't even get
>it to show up in Cubase.
>
>Thanks
>John"steve the artguy" <artguy@roundmidnite.com> wrote in message
news:47b0050d$1@linux...
>
> just sayin'...

I liked the overall Amy Winehouse look.




My turn to look something up for you :)

http://www.downloadtube.com/Mac/Audio/Drumatix-606-download. html

AA


"Neil" <OIUOI@OI.com> wrote in message news:47b32d31@linux...
>
> Is Drumatix a VSTi? I tried to google it & also checked on KVR's
> website, but couldn't find diddly-squat. Where do you get it
> from?
>
> (FYI, I'm using the LM-7 as a click, too on a project I just
> started some pre-production on & it's working out great...
> even the drummer can hear the sidestick click just fine in the
> cans, over his own kit & the other instruments if I boost the
> sidestick to max output.)
>
> Neil
>
>
>
> "Joh
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Messages: 2130
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n" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>
>>Is there a way to get Drumatix to sync with Cubase so the beats line up
> with
>>the grid? I was hoping this DH_Metronome would do it but I can't even get
>>it to show up in Cubase.
>>
>>Thanks
>>John
>Looks like Mac only and the dl link didn't work herewhat are you trying to tell us, doug? ;)

and, by the way, I didn't even watch the thing. I know neither this Amy nor
that crow. As far as my limited memory informs me, I don't believe I have
ever watched the Grammy's.

I get little bulletins in my myspace thing, and got one from Herbie (or rather
his web folk) about his award. He's always been an inspiration and marvel
in my book, and I know a few folk here are into his sort of music, and so
I posted the little notice of his grammy...

-steve


"Deej" <noway@jose.net> wrote:
>
>"steve the artguy" <artguy@roundmidnite.com> wrote in message
>news:47b0050d$1@linux...
>>
>> just sayin'...
>
>I liked the overall Amy Winehouse look.
>I am new to the system and have had trouble with slow booting. At times,
2 or 3 attempts must be made to start up. System locks up at time and restart
is inevitable. Recently, while 2 tracking system failed and I had to re
boot. Now each time I try to sign boot Paris the follow error message occurs:
***assertion failed native fx library.cppi:191 ((library header*)1.6 data)->tag==klibtag.

PLEASE HELP...CLIENTS ARE WAITING AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.Not to discourage you or pick on you, but if I were you, I would have found
something more familiar if there are clients waiting. But that said... I
am not familiar with the error, perhaps someone else is... but a few things
I can suggest.

1) If you are not using midi, get it turned off in the paris.cfg file.
See http://www.parisfaqs.com/ for help. In fact, this website gives quite
a few helpers... check it out.

2) You didn't mention your setup, but if you are using XP, turn off nasty
services. Just search google for help of which services to turn off for
audio.

3) Right click on your "my computer" and open the devices. On the IDE Interface,
somewhere in there, look for DMA setting. You don't want PIO. Change them
to DMA. Reboot and see what a difference!

4) Turn off anit-virus software, email, even internet connections. Anything
that can hog your resources. Lastly, be sure your audio is being recorded
on a separate drive from your main drive... and that the EDS card is getting
proper air or ventilation...

Hope some of this helps... Good luck!


"allan eppinette" <dara@allianceoneads.com> wrote:
>
>I am new to the system and have had trouble with slow booting. At times,
>2 or 3 attempts must be made to start up. System locks up at time and restart
>is inevitable. Recently, while 2 tracking system failed and I had to re
>boot. Now each time I try to sign boot Paris the follow error message occurs:
>***assertion failed native fx library.cppi:191 ((library header*)1.6 data)->tag==klibtag.
>
>PLEASE HELP...CLIENTS ARE WAITING AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.Yeah, Herb was in a little sextet i admire from back in the 60s, hahah

Chuck

"steve the artguy" <artguy@roundmidnite.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>what are you trying to tell us, doug? ;)
>
>and, by the way, I didn't even watch the thing. I know neither this Amy
nor
>that crow. As far as my limited memory informs me, I don't believe I have
>ever watched the Grammy's.
>
>I get little bulletins in my myspace thing, and got one from Herbie (or
rather
>his web folk) about his award. He's always been an inspiration and marvel
>in my book, and I know a few folk here are into his sort of music, and so
>I posted the little notice of his grammy...
>
>-steve
>
>
>"Deej" <noway@jose.net> wrote:
>>
>>"steve the artguy" <artguy@roundmidnite.com> wrote in message
>>news:47b0050d$1@linux...
>>>
>>> just sayin'...
>>
>>I liked the overall Amy Winehouse look.
>>Anybody know of a good box to convert either USB or FW to
sp/dif or AES digital?

I would like to run a nice DAC from a computer as a house media server.

TIA

DC http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/2008/Nady-RSM-8A-Active -Ribbon-Mic.htmlhttp://sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=6138

http://sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=6139INDEPENDENCE FREE
http://www.yellowtools.us/cp21/cms/index.php?id=782 http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.yel lowtools.us%2Fcp21%2Fcms%2Findex.php%3Fid%3D7&langpair=d e%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

For the English speaking among us :)

AA


"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:47b3db68$1@linux...
>
> INDEPENDENCE FREE
> http://www.yellowtools.us/cp21/cms/index.php?id=782http://www.elderly.com/new_instruments/items/DARM.htm

A friend of mine had one of the originals... nearly
useless, IME (and his "E", as well - he never really played it
either live or when recording - just kinda kept it 'cause it
was "different"); neck was awkwardly-shaped, kinda beefy, but
also pretty wide, frets were low & thin, which combined with
the very flat radius, made bending difficult; it also had a
really dark sound to it, with absolutely no harmonics
whatsoever, intonation was always slightly off on one string or
another, no matter what you did with the bridge... urrrrgh....
why bother with a reissue that has no improvements over the
highly-flawed original?

NeilWell, the other day I was bitching about how I couldn't route my click in
Cubase 4 to a separate bus. Now I can't even hear it on the main bus. It's
enabled, it's just not working.

any suggestions?list $2099.99 ours $1499.99

They've absolutely LOST their minds

AA

"Neil" <OIUOI@OIU.com> wrote in message news:47b3e2aa$1@linux...
>
>
>
> http://www.elderly.com/new_instruments/items/DARM.htm
>
> A friend of mine had one of the originals... nearly
> useless, IME (and his "E", as well - he never really played it
> either live or when recording - just kinda kept it 'cause it
> was "different"); neck was awkwardly-shaped, kinda beefy, but
> also pretty wide, frets were low & thin, which combined with
> the very flat radius, made bending difficult; it also had a
> really dark sound to it, with absolutely no harmonics
> whatsoever, intonation was always slightly off on one string or
> another, no matter what you did with the bridge... urrrrgh....
> why bother with a reissue that has no improvements over the
> highly-flawed original?
>
> Neil
>*You're too old to play gigs when.....*



1. It becomes more important to find a place on stage for your fan than
your amp.


2. Your gig clothes make you look like George Burns out for a round of
golf.


3. All your fans leave by 9:30 p.m.


4. All you want from groupies is a foot massage and back rub


5. You love taking the elevator because you can sing along with most of
your playlist


6. Instead of a fifth member, your band wants to spring for a roadie


7. You lost the directions to the gig


8. You need your glasses to see the amp set
Re: Logic 8.0.1 update is out [message #93762 is a reply to message #93760] Wed, 19 December 2007 13:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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tings


9. You've thrown out your back jumping off the stage


10. You feel like hell before the gig even starts.


11. The waitress is your daughter!


12. You stop the set because your ibuprofen fell behind the speakers


13. Most of your crowd just sways in their seats


14. You find your drink tokens from last month's gig in your guitar case


15. You refuse to play without earplugs


16. You ask the club owner if you can start at 8:30 instead of 9:30


17. You check the TV schedule before booking a gig


18. Your gig stool has a back


19. You're related to at least one member in the band


20. You don't let any one sit in


21. You need a nap before the gig


22. After the third set, you bug the club owner to let you quit early.


23. During the breaks, you now go to the van to lay down



24. You prefer a music stand with a light


25. You don't recover until Tuesday afternoon


26. You hope the host's speech lasts forever.....


27. You buy amps considering their weight and not their tone or cool
factor.


28. Feeling guilty looking at hot women at the bar 'cause they're
younger than your daughter.


29. You can remember seven different club names for the same location


30. You have a hazy memory of the days when you could work 10 gigs in 7
days and could physically do it!


31. Your date couldn't make it because she couldn't find a babysitter
for the grandkidslet the surgeries begin...
bilateral carpe tunnels
bilateral elbow (similar to carpel tunnel)
left shoulder

gonna be a busy next couple of months...yeay...Deej, I downloaded the user guide from Asus and it does support the Barton
Chip, which I believe is the 3200 mhz chip. I can get the computer to post,
but now I have a temp. problem. The auto shutdown feature in the bios turns
off the computer. I've got to find out what the max. temp. allowable for the
cpu is.

Rich

"Deej" <noway@jose.net> wrote in message news:47b260a4$1@linux...
> I think the XP 3000 is the fastest CPU that will work wit this mobo.
>
>
> "Rich Lamanna" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:47b2602b$1@linux...
> >I am setting up a new box, using an ASUS A7V8X-X mobo. The bios won't
> > recognize the processor, Athlon xp 3200. The fastest the mobo will allow
> > the
> > processor to run is 700mhz. Do I need to overclock the processor on this
> > mobo, or should it recognize the Barton processor without any tweaking?
> > Appreciate any help.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Rich
> >
> >
>
>The original Barton was 3000 mhz, but then they also named the Athlon XP
3200 chip the Barton too.

Rich

"Rich Lamanna" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:47b42785$1@linux...
> Deej, I downloaded the user guide from Asus and it does support the Barton
> Chip, which I believe is the 3200 mhz chip. I can get the computer to
post,
> but now I have a temp. problem. The auto shutdown feature in the bios
turns
> off the computer. I've got to find out what the max. temp. allowable for
the
> cpu is.
>
> Rich
>
> "Deej" <noway@jose.net> wrote in message news:47b260a4$1@linux...
> > I think the XP 3000 is the fastest CPU that will work wit this mobo.
> >
> >
> > "Rich Lamanna" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > news:47b2602b$1@linux...
> > >I am setting up a new box, using an ASUS A7V8X-X mobo. The bios won't
> > > recognize the processor, Athlon xp 3200. The fastest the mobo will
allow
> > > the
> > > processor to run is 700mhz. Do I need to overclock the processor on
this
> > > mobo, or should it recognize the Barton processor without any
tweaking?
> > > Appreciate any help.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Rich
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>WOW, did you find a coupon or something and decide to go nuts? I hope you
get through it well my friend. I had a friend (36) pass away this weekend.
Really really horrible. His wife gave birth to their 2nd child saturday
and he went home to rest, had a seizure and died. Unbelievable !

Life is precious and fragile so be careful and treasure every moment.
John

rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>let the surgeries begin...
>bilateral carpe tunnels
>bilateral elbow (similar to carpel tunnel)
>left shoulder
>
>gonna be a busy next couple of months...yeay...oh my god, i'm like 15 of those !You might try asking in the Cubase forum. Did you check VST connections
and the Transport (F2) / Ctrl click Metronome ?Good luck with it, and whatever the hell you do,


do not go home to rest!

DC


rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>let the surgeries begin...
>bilateral carpe tunnels
>bilateral elbow (similar to carpel tunnel)
>left shoulder
>
>gonna be a busy next couple of months...yeay...Hey man, when you get done with this come on over and help me shovel snow.

Seriously......good luck with this. Go get yourself some Ex-Lax and
Percodan and chill.for a few days..............and don't die.


..
"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7i28r35pcd5eus1iuefqtil46rvrhm5r2p@4ax.com...
> let the surgeries begin...
> bilateral carpe tunnels
> bilateral elbow (similar to carpel tunnel)
> left shoulder
>
> gonna be a busy next couple of months...yeay...Don't forget, some BIOS' allow YOU to pick the shutdown temp...
you might check that first, to see if perhaps it's set too low
- obviously you don't want to set it too high because then in
the event of an overheat, you'll be facing meltdown instead of
shutdown, but I had a mobo wherein the BIOS defualted to a much-
too-low shutdown temp for the CPU I was using & I was able to
change it.

Neil


"Rich Lamanna" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:
>Deej, I downloaded the user guide from Asus and it does support the Barton
>Chip, which I believe is the 3200 mhz chip. I can get the computer to post,
>but now I have a temp. problem. The auto shutdown feature in the bios turns
>off the computer. I've got to find out what the max. temp. allowable for
the
>cpu is.
>
>Rich
>
>"Deej" <noway@jose.net> wrote in message news:47b260a4$1@linux...
>> I think the XP 3000 is the fastest CPU that will work wit this mobo.
>>
>>
>> "Rich Lamanna" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:47b2602b$1@linux...
>> >I am setting up a new box, using an ASUS A7V8X-X mobo. The bios won't
>> > recognize the processor, Athlon xp 3200. The fastest the mobo will allow
>> > the
>> > processor to run is 700mhz. Do I need to overclock the processor on
this
>> > mobo, or should it recognize the Barton processor without any tweaking?
>> > Appreciate any help.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Rich
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>Buy a console... ;-)

David.

Deej wrote:
> Well, the other day I was bitching about how I couldn't route my click in
> Cubase 4 to a separate bus. Now I can't even hear it on the main bus. It's
> enabled, it's just not working.
>
> any suggestions?
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br /> AA


"Mike Audet" <mike@..> wrote in message news:47b86149$1@linux...
>
> Hi All,
>
> I've been working on a mono-band version of the multiband compressor so
> that
> we could use less dsp when there is just one offending band. This will be
> great for compressing just the lows or as a deesser.
>
> I've got the mono version working, and I should have the stereo version
> finished
> soon. The mono version allows 4 instances, compared to two instances for
> the full multi band.
>
> I've been investigating the DC offset issues in the crossover. It seems
> that whenever any PARIS eq is set to a narrow band and at a low frequency,
> it generates some DC offset. I've tried putting various DC offset filters
> before and after the EQ, but they don't seem to help.
>
> If anyone out there is skilled in DSP math and has some ideas for how to
> filter this better, I would love to hear from you. As of right now, I'm
> out of ideas on how to fix this. Not that it is a huge big deal. I'm
> getting
> 1% DC offset measurements by just tweaking the settings to minimize the
> effects.
>
> Anyway, I just thought I'd check in and let everyone know I'm not dead.
>
> All the best,
>
> MikeHi Aaron,

The trouble is the algorithm. There are 3 dc offset algos in the paris code
that I have, and none of them work for this. My working theory is that all
of them try to detect a constant signal below a selected frequency (5 or
10 Hz) and subtract it from the output or input. I think that the offset
from the eq has something to do with oscillation in the eq, so it isn't constant
and doesn't get picked up as DC offset.

This may just be a limitation of the PARIS eq algos. I'm personally not
finding it to be a big deal, but if anyone has another algo to try, I'll
plug it in a give it a whirl. There may also be a better crossover algo
to try. I found the one I'm working with in a comment in the paris code.
I'm sure there are others out there, I just don't know any of them. :)

Mike


"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>This may seem completely simplistic, but would building a EDS DSP DC offset

>plug (separate or as part of the monoband) that's user adjustable alleviate

>the immediate problem?
>
>AA
>
>
>"Mike Audet" <mike@..> wrote in message news:47b86149$1@linux...
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I've been working on a mono-band version of the multiband compressor so

>> that
>> we could use less dsp when there is just one offending band. This will
be
>> great for compressing just the lows or as a deesser.
>>
>> I've got the mono version working, and I should have the stereo version

>> finished
>> soon. The mono version allows 4 instances, compared to two instances for
>> the full multi band.
>>
>> I've been investigating the DC offset issues in the crossover. It seems
>> that whenever any PARIS eq is set to a narrow band and at a low frequency,
>> it generates some DC offset. I've tried putting various DC offset filters
>> before and after the EQ, but they don't seem to help.
>>
>> If anyone out there is skilled in DSP math and has some ideas for how
to
>> filter this better, I would love to hear from you. As of right now, I'm
>> out of ideas on how to fix this. Not that it is a huge big deal. I'm

>> getting
>> 1% DC offset measurements by just tweaking the settings to minimize the
>> effects.
>>
>> Anyway, I just thought I'd check in and let everyone know I'm not dead.
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Mike
>
>Mike,

Just thinking that perhaps a DC offset meter might be appropriate. If such
a thing takes minimal resources you could build it in to the plug, or if
it requires more resources then perhaps a separate plug allowing people to
pop it in just to check the offset and pop it back out again once they are
happy that nothing silly is going on DC wise.

Just a thought. Easy for me to sit here and give you work I know, but it
might be easier than fixing the issue while making the plugs more usable,
and indeed if made as a separate plug it could be used on ALL EQ's not just
that one. Given the Paris DSP resource limit I'm thinking it's rare that
all four Paris DSP slots are used on a channel anyhow.

Cheers,
Kim.

"Mike Audet" <mike@..> wrote:
>
>Hi All,
>
>I've been working on a mono-band version of the multiband compressor so
that
>we could use less dsp when there is just one offending band. This will
be
>great for compressing just the lows or as a deesser.
>
>I've got the mono version working, and I should have the stereo version
finished
>soon. The mono version allows 4 instances, compared to two instances for
>the full multi band.
>
>I've been investigating the DC offset issues in the crossover. It seems
>that whenever any PARIS eq is set to a narrow band and at a low frequency,
>it generates some DC offset. I've tried putting various DC offset filters
>before and after the EQ, but they don't seem to help.
>
>If anyone out there is skilled in DSP math and has some ideas for how to
>filter this better, I would love to hear from you. As of right now, I'm
>out of ideas on how to fix this. Not that it is a huge big deal. I'm getting
>1% DC offset measurements by just tweaking the settings to minimize the
>effects.
>
>Anyway, I just thought I'd check in and let everyone know I'm not dead.
>
>All the best,
>
>MikeInstead of using a DC offset algo, could you use a low pass eq and just set
it really low... just block everything under 10Hz?

That may be what the existing code is doing perhaps, but it might be worth
testing. Indeed you could test it by plugging in an existing EQ and hence
not even have to code anything.

Cheers,
Kim.

"Mike Audet" <mike@..> wrote:
>
>Hi Aaron,
>
>The trouble is the algorithm. There are 3 dc offset algos in the paris
code
>that I have, and none of them work for this. My working theory is that
all
>of them try to detect a constant signal below a selected frequency (5 or
>10 Hz) and subtract it from the output or input. I think that the offset
>from the eq has something to do with oscillation in the eq, so it isn't
constant
>and doesn't get picked up as DC offset.
>
>This may just be a limitation of the PARIS eq algos. I'm personally not
>finding it to be a big deal, but if anyone has another algo to try, I'll
>plug it in a give it a whirl. There may also be a better crossover algo
>to try. I found the one I'm working with in a comment in the paris code.
> I'm sure there are others out there, I just don't know any of them. :)
>
>Mike
>
>
>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>This may seem completely simplistic, but would building a EDS DSP DC offset
>
>>plug (separate or as part of the monoband) that's user adjustable alleviate
>
>>the immediate problem?
>>
>>AA
>>
>>
>>"Mike Audet" <mike@..> wrote in message news:47b86149$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I've been working on a mono-band version of the multiband compressor
so
>
>>> that
>>> we could use less dsp when there is just one offending band. This will
>be
>>> great for compressing just the lows or as a deesser.
>>>
>>> I've got the mono version working, and I should have the stereo version
>
>>> finished
>>> soon. The mono version allows 4 instances, compared to two instances
for
>>> the full multi band.
>>>
>>> I've been investigating the DC offset issues in the crossover. It seems
>>> that whenever any PARIS eq is set to a narrow band and at a low frequency,
>>> it generates some DC offset. I've tried putting various DC offset filters
>>> before and after the EQ, but they don't seem to help.
>>>
>>> If anyone out there is skilled in DSP math and has some ideas for how
>to
>>> filter this better, I would love to hear from you. As of right now,
I'm
>>> out of ideas on how to fix this. Not that it is a huge big deal. I'm
>
>>> getting
>>> 1% DC offset measurements by just tweaking the settings to minimize the
>>> effects.
>>>
>>> Anyway, I just thought I'd check in and let everyone know I'm not dead.
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>>
>>> Mike
>>
>>
>Hi,
All of the sudden I cannot lunch Paris till the end.
It starts alright locks all my adat cards across 3 mec's (lights stop flashing
) and when all seem that Paris will go to vST/DX search as usual when starting
then all lights on mecs are flashing and I get this No interface connected
to master card reset your cables thing !
Any clew ??
Thanks
DimitriosHi Mike !
Nice you are still on boat !!!
We count on your findings here !
Regarding these quirks with eq , yes maybe these are XP oriented.
Based on some tests I did there was at least one band on EQ (the lowest)
that was acting differently under XP than under Me.
This was confirmed by other users.
Another thing that confuses me is some frequency bumps around 500 hz or
so coming from the eq especially noticable with drums when mixing.
I may say that frequency wise Paris is not super stable and always trying
to use compressors to overcome...
Anyone else sharing these findings ?
Regards,
Dimitrios

"Mike Audet" <mike@..> wrote:
>
>Hi All,
>
>I've been working on a mono-band version of the multiband compressor so
that
>we could use less dsp when there is just one offending band. This will
be
>great for compressing just the lows or as a deesser.
>
>I've got the mono version working, and I should have the stereo version
finished
>soon. The mono version allows 4 instances, compared to two instances for
>the full multi band.
>
>I've been investigating the DC offset issues in the crossover. It seems
>that whenever any PARIS eq is set to a narrow band and at a low frequency,
>it generates some DC offset. I've tried putting various DC offset filters
>before and after the EQ, but they don't seem to help.
>
>If anyone out there is skilled in DSP math and has some ideas for how to
>filter this better, I would love to hear from you. As of right now, I'm
>out of ideas on how to fix this. Not that it is a huge big deal. I'm getting
>1% DC offset measurements by just tweaking the settings to minimize the
>effects.
>
>Anyway, I just thought I'd check in and let everyone know I'm not dead.
>
>All the best,
>
>MikeThis is a multi-part message in MIME format.

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Reseat your cables? I'd start there.
They can get iffy after sitting idle for
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------=_NextPart_000_00F8_01C8719C.560368C0--I know this happens to me if I forget to run the task assignment manager before
launching PARIS. Could hyper threading or a dual core CPU been re-activated?
This would cause the error.

Let us know how the troubleshooting goes.

Mike

"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>
>Hi,
>All of the sudden I cannot lunch Paris till the end.
>It starts alright locks all my adat cards across 3 mec's (lights stop flashing
>) and when all seem that Paris will go to vST/DX search as usual when starting
>then all lights on mecs are flashing and I get this No interface connected
>to master card reset your cables thing !
>Any clew ??
>Thanks
>DimitriosThanks to both !
I will try all althoiugh I have resetted cables several times but who knows...
Whats task assignment manager that you run every time before running Paris
??
Thanks
Dimitrios

"Mike Audet" <mike@..> wrote:
>
>I know this happens to me if I forget to run the task assignment manager
before
>launching PARIS. Could hyper threading or a dual core CPU been re-activated?
> This would cause the error.
>
>Let us know how the troubleshooting goes.
>
>Mike
>
>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>>
>>Hi,
>>All of the sudden I cannot lunch Paris till the end.
>>It starts alright locks all my adat cards across 3 mec's (lights stop flashing
>>) and when all seem that Paris will go to vST/DX search as usual when starting
>>then all lights on mecs are flashing and I get this No interface connected
>>to master card reset your cables thing !
>>Any clew ??
>>Thanks
>>Dimitrios
>Could it be a symptopm of an eds card going dead ??
Thanks
Dimitrios

"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>
>Thanks to both !
>I will try all althoiugh I have resetted cables several times but who knows...
>Whats task assignment manager that you run every time before running Paris
>??
>Thanks
>Dimitrios
>
>"Mike Audet" <mike@..> wrote:
>>
>>I know this happens to me if I forget to run the task assignment manager
>before
>>launching PARIS. Could hyper threading or a dual core CPU been re-activated?
>> This would cause the error.
>>
>>Let us know how the troubleshooting goes.
>>
>>Mike
>>
>>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>>>
>>>Hi,
>>>All of the sudden I cannot lunch Paris till the end.
>>>It starts alright locks all my adat cards across 3 mec's (lights stop
flashing
>>>) and when all seem that Paris will go to vST/DX search as usual when
starting
>>>then all lights on mecs are flashing and I get this No interface connected
>>>to master card reset your cables thing !
>>>Any clew ??
>>>Thanks
>>>Dimitrios
>>
>>Max,
>Funny to see your name here again....I hope you had enough paris gear left
>as 2 years ago when I was working over in Scotland I think I left back to
>the States in the fall of 2005 with a lot of what you and David? had put
>in storage. Anyway, just wanted to hello.
>Matt Barber

hi matt

we just kept an eds1000 card and our trusty 442. actually i think we'll never
need the card as all i need to do now is export omfs from any old projects
i have to restore. the last couple have been the only two since i saw you
so it's hardly high priority stuff for us, i just want to be able to cover
ourselves should a very old client pop out of the woodwork.

hope you're well.

maxHi Dimitrios,

If you go to ensoniq.ca, there is a word document with installation instructions
and paris tips. In there is a description of how to get PARIS to run on
a dual cpu/hyperthreading setup under xp. The task assignment utility is
part of that.

As for your error message, could windows have, for some reason, re-enumerated
your cards? Do all of your cards have interfaces connected to them? If
you check the paris.cfg file in your paris pro folder, there is a line that
reads:

MasterOutputCard=0

You could try changing this to "3" if you have 4 cards, or "4" if you have
5 cards, etc.

let me know how it goes.

All the best!

Mike

"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>
>Could it be a symptopm of an eds card going dead ??
>Thanks
>Dimitrios
>
>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>>
>>Thanks to both !
>>I will try all althoiugh I have resetted cables several times but who knows...
>>Whats task assignment manager that you run every time before running Paris
>>??
>>Thanks
>>Dimitrios
>>
>>"Mike Audet" <mike@..> wrote:
>>>
>>>I know this happens to me if I forget to run the task assignment manager
>>before
>>>launching PARIS. Could hyper threading or a dual core CPU been re-activated?
>>> This would cause the error.
>>>
>>>Let us know how the troubleshooting goes.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>
>>>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Hi,
>>>>All of the sudden I cannot lunch Paris till the end.
>>>>It starts alright locks all my adat cards across 3 mec's (lights stop
>flashing
>>>>) and when all seem that Paris will go to vST/DX search as usual when
>starting
>>>>then all lights on mecs are flashing and I get this No interface connected
>>>>to master card reset your cables thing !
>>>>Any clew ??
>>>>Thanks
>>>>Dimitrios
>>>
>>
>Dear Mike,
Thank you for your tips !
I hve found the workaround !
As Tom said I have taken a look at the cables and I found that on all three
!! there was a pin that was bent close to the next pin almost touching before
attching to eds cards !
I made sure that all pins were far away in beetween them and all went smooth.
I don't know if I caused any malfunction though.
What is happening last few days is that ADAT card on Mec 3 passes signal
with pops and clicks as it doesn't have proper wordclocking , although clocked
for external mytek wordclock machine.
It was perfect but after a new installation on second PC with Pulsar cards
this doesn't seem to go away.
In case that I will not solve this I will have to drop the adat card from
that Mec and keep the other 4 cards (two on each other mecs) which work alright
except for channels 5 and 6 on two of these cards !
Maybe I will make a Me Paris install and see if this will fix that problem
before I uninstall the adat card.
Thanks !!!
Dimitrios
"Mike Audet" <mike@..> wrote:
>
>Hi Dimitrios,
>
>If you go to ensoniq.ca, there is a word document with installation instructions
>and paris tips. In there is a description of how to get PARIS to run on
>a dual cpu/hyperthreading setup under xp. The task assignment utility is
>part of that.
>
>As for your error message, could windows have, for some reason, re-enumerated
>your cards? Do all of your cards have interfaces connected to them? If
>you check the paris.cfg file in your paris pro folder, there is a line that
>reads:
>
>MasterOutputCard=0
>
>You could try changing this to "3" if you have 4 cards, or "4" if you have
>5 cards, etc.
>
>let me know how it goes.
>
>All the best!
>
>Mike
>
>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>>
>>Could it be a symptopm of an eds card going dead ??
>>Thanks
>>Dimitrios
>>
>>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>>>
>>>Thanks to both !
>>>I will try all althoiugh I have resetted cables several times but
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