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| Re: OK........I've had enough of this [message #95571 is a reply to message #95554] |
Tue, 05 February 2008 10:37   |
Jamie K
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to enforce that
law could be hanged for treason to the state of Virginia. By opposing this
Hamilton was for 'strong central government.' Hardly the Patriot Act. The
National Security Act of 1947 would been considered reason for armed revolt
by every single founder. Then again so would have our entrance into WW I.
We also shouldn't forget that Adams was a loud and largely lonely advocate
of a standing Navy, and pushed the Alien and Sedition Acts. Even Adams was
more complex that our cardboard cutout politicians today.
I'm with you on Big Ben. A great second book to read about his is called
'The Americanization of Benjamin Franklin.' Superb book that will really
expand your ideas about him.
TCB
Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>Hey Thad, Personally I would love to see more CEOs sing and accountants
>dance. They might discover a higher motivation than making money. The
>great thing about our nation is we ALL contribute to its political
>process. I'm not a fan of "Authorities" telling us what to think. I
>prefer seeing leaders coming from every walk of life.
>
>In the case of Robbins, he is perfectly suited to give his opinion to
>the NAB. They rely utterly on artists like him for their very existence
>- they f/g better listen! Whether you like what today's artists say or
>not, they are generally very intelligent people many of whom care a lot
>more than the average Joe about changing things for the better in our
>world. Maybe a slightly less jaded look at the contributions of many
>artists will show you they are trying to help.
>
>I don't claim to be a scholar of our early American history, but I gotta
>think that Hamilton's intentions to create a central bank and bring the
>USA into a war were not good things. Look where we are now with our
>central bank, withering paper currency and wars. I loved how Adams
>handled it.
>
>My favorite Founding Father is B. Franklin, Printer. What a total f/g
>genius, Renaissance Dude and towering personage he was.
>
>TCB wrote:
>> On the contrary, Bill, I DO have a problem with him being an artist. I
don't
>> like to listen to CEOs sing or watch accountants dance or look at paintings
>> by politicians. There are plenty of well-informed commentators on current
>> affairs who specialize on that, if Tim wants to make a difference he should
>> volunteer.
>>
>> As far as John Adams, it's hard to hear his take on Hamilton and not wind
>> up hating the guy. Nobody, not even Thomas Jefferson, hated Hamilton more
>> than Adams. Hamilton was also far from a 'pawn' of bunch of nefarious
bankers.
>> Pawn implied control by others. Hamilton was keenly aware of how finance
>> worked, often to a greater degree than the bankers he was dealing with,
and
>> turned out to be right more often than not. His vision of America, as
a dominant
>> power in the Western hemisphere built on a powerful manufacturing economy
>> and a strong currency backed by a central bank, was more or less right.
Jefferson's
>> yeomen farmers reaping the fruits of their own labor and the labor of
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| Re: OK........I've had enough of this [message #95575 is a reply to message #95557] |
Tue, 05 February 2008 11:00 |
Jamie K
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ain that Paris is actually a 16
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>>bit conversion hardware,
>>(though if good sounding)
>> only the internal routing can be 24 bit: is that true????
>>
>>'bye all,
>>Andrea, Italy
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>to record, or Bounce, 24 bit files, select 24 bit in the project window. (Paris
does actually sound really good at 16 bit though)
Rod
"bees" <timeforeaction@interfree.it> wrote:
>Thanks, Rod!
>It actually sounded weird to me...
>
>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
>news:48092246$1@linux...
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>> No, paris can record and bounce 24 bit audio.
>> Rod Lincoln
>> "bees" <timeforeaction@interfree.it> wrote:
>>>Dear friends,
>>>
>>>I just bought an Eps 16+ rack from another Ensoniq lover, also lover of
>> Emu
>>>(he blames Creative
>>>to have killed both!!!). Unfortunately the Flashbank card went "k.o."
as
>>
>>>soon as mounted it on
>>>this unit, i had three similar problems before: I must have a serious
>>>problem of grounding
>>>at home..
>>>
>>>Anyway this seniors says he knows for certain that Paris is actually a
16
>>
>>>bit conversion hardware,
>>>(though if good sounding)
>>> only the internal routing can be 24 bit: is that true????
>>>
>>>'bye all,
>>>Andrea, Italy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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>The MEC built in, IF-2 and 442 have 20 bit analog interfaces. The 8 in/ 8
out series are 24 bit. The MEC S/PDIF is 24 bit. The 442 S/PDIF is 20 bit.
The Adat cards are 20 bit. Had the AES xlr board seen production, it was
supposed to be 24 bit I believe. Note, not a single 16 bit interface in the
bunch. :)
Now, the interesting thing is that the IF-2 sends/recieves a full 24 bit
signal, it's the convertors that limit to 20 bit I have heard. That piece of
info came to light during the much talked about AES IF-2 modifications
someone in the group had been working on.
AAApparently th TI chipset is the way to go.
I found this...
http://www.provantage.com/siig-nn-e20012-s2~7SIFW010.htm
It has mac drivers.
I don't own one myself, but it looks like it would do the job.
Kim
rick <parnell68athotmail.com> wrote:
>anyone?
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>On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 06:30:12 -0400, rick <parnell68athotmail.com>
>wrote:
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>>what's good out there?
>macs don't like multiple connections using their on board fw. i
already have the pci/firewire for the ad/da and one audio drive and i
need connections for more portability. i'll also be adding a sata
drive internally.
i've looked at SIIG and Synchrotech but will pass on lacie stuff.
On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 09:22:45 -0700, Kerry Galloway
<kg@kerrygalloway.com> w
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| Re: How I spent my day part 1 [message #95581 is a reply to message #95578] |
Tue, 05 February 2008 11:52 |
Jamie K
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zation. Frankly I
>>>> would much rather hear heart felt opinions from an intelligent actor
>
>>>> like Tim Robbins (Erik the Viking!) than the compromised party line we
>
>>>> hear from most pragmatic politicians.
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone been watching the John Adams HBO series? Even at the birth
> of
>>>> our Republic we had bankers' pawns like Hamilton scheming to put the
>
>>>> country into debt with an expensive army and war.
>>>>
>>>> Kerry Galloway wrote:
>>>>> Wait a sec. Aren't the bulk of PARIS NG contributors "artists" too,
> pretty
>>>>> much by definition?
>>>>>
>>>>> :D
>>>>>
>>>>> - Kerry
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4/17/08 1:49 PM, in article 4807b7be$1@linux, "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree with a fair bit of the NAB speech, but I find 'artists' going
>>> on about
>>>>>> politics insufferable. If they really care about this stuff join a
> campaign
>>>>>> or run for office.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TCB
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Thad, I think he blew the right notes this time. Did you listen?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TCB wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hollywood blowhard.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> http://adage.com/brightcove/single.php?title=1506582278
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Right on.
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
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>On the contrary, Bill, I DO have a problem with him being an artist. I don't
>like to listen to CEOs sing or watch accountants dance or look at paintings
>by politicians. There are plenty of well-informed commentators on current
>affairs who specialize on that, if Tim wants to make a difference he should
>volunteer.
Your reasoning seems flawed on this. The comparison is botched, if you will
forgive me. The question ought to be: Do you want to hear a CEO, not sing,
but make political pronouncements? And the answer must be no, according to
you.
Tim Robbins's occupation is irrelevant. He is an informed citizen and that's
all the qualification he needs to make stating his views in public not only
legitimate but essential.It may be opportunism, but so what? From your perspective,
nobody apart from the professional politician ought to be taken seriously
on matters of policy, not CEOs (does Michael Bloomberg pronounce on policy?),
not editors/writers(the Kristols, Buckley, et al), not military people, nor
economists, religionists, nor ordinary people of any stripe. There is a streak
of tory paternalism in this that is anti democratic to its c
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Tue, 05 February 2008 12:06 |
Deej [5]
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ore: governing
is the province of the elite alone. It's vintage Duke of Wellington.
By this logic, in fact, your OWN amateur pronouncements on politics must
be considered utterly without merit. Yet, if you had Tim Robbins's platform,
considering how strongly held and sophisticated your viewpoint is, and how
avidly you promote it even to this tiny audience here, would you decline
such an opportunity to promote it to the world at large? I can't see it,
and I wouldn't fault you. Do you feel that Tim Robbins is less politically
sophisticated than yourself?
Venceremos!
bunuelIt looks like we should be fixed as of Monday evening here (GMT+10)...
....so for our greater population of North American residents you'll all
wake up next Monday and we should be cool. :o)
Cheers,
Kim.Thanks Kim for all your hard work!!!
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>It looks like we should be fixed as of Monday evening here (GMT+10)...
>
>...so for our greater population of North American residents you'll all
>wake up next Monday and we should be cool. :o)
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.No problem at all...
....we seem to actually have a more solid connection this morning for some
reason in any case. Hasn't rained for a bit and it's a mild day. Perhaps
that's it...?
Cheers,
Kim.
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>Thanks Kim for all your hard work!!!
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>It looks like we should be fixed as of Monday evening here (GMT+10)...
>>
>>...so for our greater population of North American residents you'll all
>>wake up next Monday and we should be cool. :o)
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>That's strange. I've had three to five external drives (currently 1x120, 2x160
and 1x230) and a DVD burner constantly hung off the internal FW of my dual
G5 for two years now (plus a 160 and a 320 internally and a 500 in a USB2.0
cradle). Maybe I'm missing something - what are the symptoms of it misbehaving?
rick <parnell68athotmail.com> wrote:
>macs don't like multiple connections using their on board fw. i
>already have the pci/firewire for the ad/da and one audio drive and i
>need connections for more portability. i'll also be adding a sata
>drive internally.
>
>i've looked at SIIG and Synchrotech but will pass on lacie stuff.
>
>On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 09:22:45 -0700, Kerry Galloway
><kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
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>>I don't have any experience with the PCI-e ones; what's up? Is your onboard
>>FW dead, or are you just looking for more outputs?
>>
>>- K
>>
>>
>>On 4/17/08 3:30 AM, in article ag9e049j8d37t090dn929o1hbih4m08u9f@4ax.com,
>>"rick" <parnell68athotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> what's good out there?
>Thanks Bro!
AA
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:480a8386$1@linux...
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> It looks like we should be fixed as of Monday evening here (GMT+10)...
>
> ...so for our greater population of North American residents you'll all
> wake up next Monday and we should be cool. :o)
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.I tried the beta1 and it is marvelous.
It holds 64 presets with latencies so you can just click the on button anytime
you load the plugin...
Regards,
DimitriosI respectfully disagree very much about artists speaking out, and am
reminded of heated arguments with my parents on this very subject. I think
if talent and good luck grant somebody a communication line that powerful, <
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| Re: OK........I've had enough of this [message #95583 is a reply to message #95575] |
Tue, 05 February 2008 12:07 |
Don Nafe
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they definitely should speak out on important issues. My parents saw this
kind of thing as arrogant biting of the hand that feeds you, but I just see
it as being a responsible human being. To suggest that artists should just
do their art and keep their mouths shut seems uncomfortably similar to
suggesting that women should do the same, their "art" being the cookin' and
cleanin' and raisin' the kids.
Also, I think a lot of outspoken artists do volunteer, join campaigns,
and/or run for office. But if they don't, if they just want to take
advantage of their fame to flap their yaps, I'm fine with that. Flap away.
S
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:4809089c$1@linux...
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> On the contrary, Bill, I DO have a problem with him being an artist. I
> don't
> like to listen to CEOs sing or watch accountants dance or look at
> paintings
> by politicians. There are plenty of well-informed commentators on current
> affairs who specialize on that, if Tim wants to make a difference he
> should
> volunteer.
>
> As far as John Adams, it's hard to hear his take on Hamilton and not wind
> up hating the guy. Nobody, not even Thomas Jefferson, hated Hamilton more
> than Adams. Hamilton was also far from a 'pawn' of bunch of nefarious
> bankers.
> Pawn implied control by others. Hamilton was keenly aware of how finance
> worked, often to a greater degree than the bankers he was dealing with,
> and
> turned out to be right more often than not. His vision of America, as a
> dominant
> power in the Western hemisphere built on a powerful manufacturing economy
> and a strong currency backed by a central bank, was more or less right.
> Jefferson's
> yeomen farmers reaping the fruits of their own labor and the labor of
> their
> dark hued indentured help, while reading Gibbon in the library at night,
> was winsome and romantic. Hell, even Jefferson, with his sizzling gifts
> and
> endless energy, couldn't manage to get out of debt in his life.
>
> Of the 'big four' Adams is probably the most likable, and the second
> easiest
> to understand. His appetites and vices were modest, his opinions were
> fairly
> straightforward and honest. It's good to see him getting a day in the sun,
> it's richly deserved.
>
> TCB
>
> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>Kerry, I don't think Thad has a problem with his being an artist.
>>
>>Actually I do think we all have a responsibility to say what we believe
>
>>and what we think will be of value to others. Great artists have
>>powerful voices and they absolutely should communicate for the
>>betterment of society and the future of the civilization. Frankly I
>>would much rather hear heart felt opinions from an intelligent actor
>>like Tim Robbins (Erik the Viking!) than the compromised party line we
>>hear from most pragmatic politicians.
>>
>>Has anyone been watching the John Adams HBO series? Even at the birth of
>
>>our Republic we had bankers' pawns like Hamilton scheming to put the
>>country into debt with an expensive army and war.
>>
>>Kerry Galloway wrote:
>>> Wait a sec. Aren't the bulk of PARIS NG contributors "artists" too,
>>> pretty
>>> much by definition?
>>>
>>> :D
>>>
>>> - Kerry
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/17/08 1:49 PM, in article 4807b7be$1@linux, "TCB"
>>> <nobody@ishere.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I agree with a fair bit of the NAB speech, but I find 'artists' going
> on about
>>>> politics insufferable. If they really care about this stuff join a
>>>> campaign
>>>> or run for office.
>>>>
>>>> TCB
>>>>
>>>> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>>>> Thad, I think he ble
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| Re: How I spent my day part 1 [message #95586 is a reply to message #95582] |
Tue, 05 February 2008 12:19 |
Jamie K
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>
>That's strange. I've had three to five external drives (currently 1x120, 2x160
>and 1x230) and a DVD burner constantly hung off the internal FW of my dual
>G5 for two years now (plus a 160 and a 320 internally and a 500 in a USB2.0
>cradle). Maybe I'm missing something - what are the symptoms of it misbehaving?
>
> rick <parnell68athotmail.com> wrote:
>>macs don't like multiple connections using their on board fw. i
>>already have the pci/firewire for the ad/da and one audio drive and i
>>need connections for more portability. i'll also be adding a sata
>>drive internally.
>>
>>i've looked at SIIG and Synchrotech but will pass on lacie stuff.
>>
>>On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 09:22:45 -0700, Kerry Galloway
>><kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>>
>>>I don't have any experience with the PCI-e ones; what's up? Is your onboard
>>>FW dead, or are you just looking for more outputs?
>>>
>>>- K
>>>
>>>
>>>On 4/17/08 3:30 AM, in article ag9e049j8d37t090dn929o1hbih4m08u9f@4ax.com,
>>>"rick" <parnell68athotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> what's good out there?
>>No wuckers, Cobber!
Kim wrote:
> No problem at all...
>
> ...we seem to actually have a more solid connection this morning for some
> reason in any case. Hasn't rained for a bit and it's a mild day. Perhaps
> that's it...?
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Thanks Kim for all your hard work!!!
>>
>> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> It looks like we should be fixed as of Monday evening here (GMT+10)...
>>>
>>> ...so for our greater population of North American residents you'll all
>>> wake up next Monday and we should be cool. :o)
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Kim.
>Let's be smarter than the media-created 2 party, 2 ideology national
feud. Sometimes an idea is simply good and it does not make all your
other ideas wrong to agree with it.
Sanity could be defined as the ability to differentiate. Vive la difference!
Sarah wrote:
> I respectfully disagree very much about artists speaking out, and am
> reminded of heated arguments with my parents on this very subject. I think
> if talent and good luck grant somebody a communication line that powerful,
> they definitely should speak out on important issues. My parents saw this
> kind of thing as arrogant biting of the hand that feeds you, but I just see
> it as being a responsible human being. To suggest that artists should just
> do their art and keep their mouths shut seems uncomfortably similar to
> suggesting that women should do the same, their "art" being the cookin' and
> cleanin' and raisin' the kids.
>
> Also, I think a lot of outspoken artists do volunteer, join campaigns,
> and/or run for office. But if they don't, if they just want to take
> advantage of their fame to flap their yaps, I'm fine with that. Flap away.
>
> S
>
>
> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:4809089c$1@linux...
>> On the contrary, Bill, I DO have a problem with him being an artist. I
>> don't
>> like to listen to CEOs sing or watch accountants dance or look at
>> paintings
>> by politicians. There are plenty of well-informed commentators on current
>> affairs who specialize on that, if Tim wants to make a difference he
>> should
>> volunteer.
>>
>> As far as John Adams, it's hard to hear his take on Hamilton and not wind
>> up hating the guy. Nobody, not even Thomas Jefferson, hated Hamilton more
>> than Adams. Hamilton was also far from a 'pawn' of bunch of nefarious
>> bankers.
>> Pawn implied control by others. Hamilton was keenly aware of how finance
>> worked, often to a greater degree than the bankers he was dealing with,
>> and
>> turned out to be right more often than not. His vision of America, as a
>>
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| Re: OK........I've had enough of this [message #95588 is a reply to message #95583] |
Tue, 05 February 2008 12:30 |
Jamie K
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g a day in the sun,
>> it's richly deserved.
>>
>> TCB
>>
>> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>> Kerry, I don't think Thad has a problem with his being an artist.
>>>
>>> Actually I do think we all have a responsibility to say what we believe
>>> and what we think will be of value to others. Great artists have
>>> powerful voices and they absolutely should communicate for the
>>> betterment of society and the future of the civilization. Frankly I
>>> would much rather hear heart felt opinions from an intelligent actor
>>> like Tim Robbins (Erik the Viking!) than the compromised party line we
>>> hear from most pragmatic politicians.
>>>
>>> Has anyone been watching the John Adams HBO series? Even at the birth of
>>> our Republic we had bankers' pawns like Hamilton scheming to put the
>>> country into debt with an expensive army and war.
>>>
>>> Kerry Galloway wrote:
>>>> Wait a sec. Aren't the bulk of PARIS NG contributors "artists" too,
>>>> pretty
>>>> much by definition?
>>>>
>>>> :D
>>>>
>>>> - Kerry
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 4/17/08 1:49 PM, in article 4807b7be$1@linux, "TCB"
>>>> <nobody@ishere.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I agree with a fair bit of the NAB speech, but I find 'artists' going
>> on about
>>>>> politics insufferable. If they really care about this stuff join a
>>>>> campaign
>>>>> or run for office.
>>>>>
>>>>> TCB
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Thad, I think he blew the right notes this time. Did you listen?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TCB wrote:
>>>>>>> Hollywood blowhard.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> http://adage.com/brightcove/single.php?title=1506582278
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Right on.
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Hey Dimitros,
This is great. I can't wait for the release ! ! !
Now we need the latency list for both 44.1 & 48K to
cover our presets across the board. UADs included. I know Rod
has the UAD thing down.
As I understand it, this makes Sampleslide unecessary right?
Tom
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message =
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I tried the beta1 and it is marvelous.
It holds 64 presets with latencies so you can just click the on button =
anytime
you load the plugin...
Regards,
Dimitrios
I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
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Tue, 05 February 2008 13:09 |
Jamie K
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master as those, but somehow because someone is a good actor we are supposed
to take their opinions seriously.
This all stems, in my opinion, in the greatly overstated role that 'artists'
played in various movements of the baby boomer's youth.
TCB
"bunuel" <bunuel@conar.fr> wrote:
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>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>
>>On the contrary, Bill, I DO have a problem with him being an artist. I
don't
>>like to listen to CEOs sing or watch accountants dance or look at paintings
>>by politicians. There are plenty of well-informed commentators on current
>>affairs who specialize on that, if Tim wants to make a difference he should
>>volunteer.
>
>
>Your reasoning seems flawed on this. The comparison is botched, if you will
>forgive me. The question ought to be: Do you want to hear a CEO, not sing,
>but make political pronouncements? And the answer must be no, according
to
>you.
>
>Tim Robbins's occupation is irrelevant. He is an informed citizen and that's
>all the qualification he needs to make stating his views in public not only
>legitimate but essential.It may be opportunism, but so what? From your perspective,
>nobody apart from the professional politician ought to be taken seriously
>on matters of policy, not CEOs (does Michael Bloomberg pronounce on policy?),
>not editors/writers(the Kristols, Buckley, et al), not military people,
nor
>economists, religionists, nor ordinary people of any stripe. There is a
streak
>of tory paternalism in this that is anti democratic to its core: governing
>is the province of the elite alone. It's vintage Duke of Wellington.
>
>By this logic, in fact, your OWN amateur pronouncements on politics must
>be considered utterly without merit. Yet, if you had Tim Robbins's platform,
>considering how strongly held and sophisticated your viewpoint is, and how
>avidly you promote it even to this tiny audience here, would you decline
>such an opportunity to promote it to the world at large? I can't see it,
>and I wouldn't fault you. Do you feel that Tim Robbins is less politically
>sophisticated than yourself?
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>Venceremos!
>bunuel
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>Tech should be here shortly, at which point he'll no doubt rip everything
apart and stuff, but we should be good again in about two hours from post
date, if not before.
Cheers,
Kim.well that explains why i'm not here...phew
On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 06:30:12 -0400, rick <parnell68athotmail.com>
wrote:
>what's good out there?what i love are the radio jocks who slam anyone of note for expressing
an opinion because of thier celebrity while they do the same daily.
and what really boggles the mind is that there are those who agree and
do not see the irony.
On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 02:13:48 -0700, "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com>
wrote:
>I respectfully disagree very much about artists speaking out, and am
>reminded of heated arguments with my parents on this very subject. I think
>if talent and good luck grant somebody a communication line that powerful,
>they definitely should speak out on important issues. My parents saw this
>kind of thing as arrogant biting of the hand that feeds you, but I just see
>it as being a responsible human being. To suggest that artists should just
>do their art and keep their mouths shut seems uncomfortably similar to
>suggesting that women should do the same, their "art" being the cookin' and
>cleanin' and raisin' the kids.
>
>Also, I think a lot of outspoken artists do volunteer, join campaigns,
>and/or run for office. But if they don't, if they just want to take
>advantage of their fame to flap their yaps, I'm fine with that. Flap away.
>
>S
>
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>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:4809089c$1@linux...
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>> On the contrary, Bill, I DO have a problem with him being an artist. I
>> don't
>> like to listen to CEOs sing or watch
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s this time. Did you listen?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TCB wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hollywood blowhard.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> http://adage.com/brightcove/single.php?title=1506582278
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Right on.
>OK
I thought I already explained but maybe I did not use the right words for
it :)
You put faderworks on one of the native slots (you have four right?)
I put it on the first one.
Then whatever you put on other slots it does not matter because faderworks
always does what is supposed to do.
Tom, yes why should you use sampleslide when Faderworks has been written
to do this for us only BETTER !
1. You put faderworks 1in/1out on every Paris audio track.
2. If you wanna use a stereo pair of tracks the put the 2in/2out faderworks.
3. I made a Default project with 64 (4 cards) faderworks instances already
loaded so no hassle thereafter...
4. If you make a list with plugins and latencies (64 for now is more than
enouph) these will be remembered with every new project.
Just remember to have the button in the OFF state.
5. Even if you use FFX4 and/or chainer or other wrpper on other slots faderworks
will do whatever is asked to do.
6 HERE IS HOW IT ACTUALLY WORKS:
The default status of the plugin is to ignore the latency status for the
track you are putting the plugin.
For instance.
A. You put a waves renvox on track 1 on slot two either standalone or from
withing the FFX4 or chainer...
Now the actual latency this plugin introduces is 64 samples.
That MEANS that all other Paris audio tracks are 64 samples ahead of track
1 or if you like ,track 1 is 64 sample latent.
NOW having in mind that you have put Faderworks on every track then BY JUST
pushing the ON button track 1 of the Waves renvox preset then Faderworks
DELAYS all other Paris audio tracks by 64 samples LEAVING intact the audio
track 1 for which faderworks ignores the latency.
OVERALL latency is displayed on every track too !!
It even substract latency !!!!
So by putting a waves rencomp (64 samples) on track 2 that does NOT mean
that faderworks will delay all others again by 64 samples !! , thus overall
latency WILL REMAIN at 64 samples, ONLY track 2 which was already 64 samples
latent because of track 1 now faderworks just SUBSTRACTS that 64 samples
for this track !!
Anyone understood what I typed in here ? :)
Regards,
Dimitrios
eff H <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote:
>Dimitrios
>
>How does this function with plugins inside a wrapper, for example
>autotune wrapped inside FFX4?
>
>JH
>
>wrote:
>> I tried the beta1 and it is marvelous.
>> It holds 64 presets with latencies so you can just click the on button
anytime
>> you load the plugin...
>> Regards,
>> DimitriosHowdy, guys. Long time no see, again.
Swen had some playback problems with a large project, so we stuck some extra
RAM in there, which seemed to help. Problem was, later last night we started
getting some really nasty "digital tearing" sounds out of his rig. The fact
that he had been rooting around in his comptuer case like a bear at a garbage
can while installing the RAM makes me suspicious that he caused some hardware
problems with his carelessness. Anybody ever had any "digital tearing" sounds
come out of their system?
JimmyHello again!
My production partner Swen ahs decided that Paris is no longer good enough
for him, and wants desperately to switch to Logic on a Mac Pro tower. I do
not know why. He has always railed against what he perceives as being the
fundamental inadequacy of Paris, though he's never used any other platform,
and so has no frame of reference.
Anyway, I know a lot of folks here have experience with other platforms,
and I wondered if anyone could give me some vague particulars as to what
is possible on a native system these days.
We regularly rack up track counts of 64 or more, with Paris EQ on almost
every channel. Can a native Logic system do that? Is latency an issue? Would
the system be stable and easy to set up and tweak?
Thanks,
JimmyDimitrios,
I was just wondering how Faderworks knew what was inside the wrapper so
it knows not to delay track 1 the 64 samples (I assume there was still a
faderworks instance on track 1). That's quite a trick and one I'm
willing to pay for.
wrote:
> OK
> I thought I already explained but maybe I did not use the right words for
> it :)
>
> You put faderworks on one of the native slots (you have four right?)
> I put it on the first one.
> Then whatever you put on other slots it does not matter because faderworks
> always does what is supposed to do.
>
> Tom, yes why should you use sampleslide when Faderworks has been written
> to do this for us only BETTER !
>
> 1. You put faderworks 1in/1out on every Paris audio track.
> 2. If you wanna use a stereo pair of tracks the put the 2in/2out faderworks.
> 3. I made a Default project with 64 (4 cards) faderworks instances already
> loaded so no hassle thereafter...
> 4. If you make a list with plugins and latencies (64 for now is more than
> enouph) these will be remembered with every new project.
> Just remember to have the button in the OFF state.
> 5. Even if you use FFX4 and/or chainer or other wrpper on other slots faderworks
> will do whatever is asked to do.
> 6 HERE IS HOW IT ACTUALLY WORKS:
> The default status of the plugin is to ignore the latency status for the
> track you are putting the plugin.
> For instance.
>
> A. You put a waves renvox on track 1 on slot two either standalone or from
> withing the FFX4 or chainer...
> Now the actual latency this plugin introduces is 64 samples.
> That MEANS that all other Paris audio tracks are 64 samples ahead of track
> 1 or if you like ,track 1 is 64 sample latent.
> NOW having in mind that you have put Faderworks on every track then BY JUST
> pushing the ON button track 1 of the Waves renvox preset then Faderworks
> DELAYS all other Paris audio tracks by 64 samples LEAVING intact the audio
> track 1 for which faderworks ignores the latency.
> OVERALL latency is displayed on every track too !!
> It even substract latency !!!!
> So by putting a waves rencomp (64 samples) on track 2 that does NOT mean
> that faderworks will delay all others again by 64 samples !! , thus overall
> latency WILL REMAIN at 64 samples, ONLY track 2 which was already 64 samples
> latent because of track 1 now faderworks just SUBSTRACTS that 64 samples
> for this track !!
>
> Anyone understood what I typed in here ? :)
> Regards,
> Dimitrios
>
> eff H <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote:
>
>>Dimitrios
>>
>>How does this function with plugins inside a wrapper, for example
>>autotune wrapped inside FFX4?
>>
>>JH
>>
>>wrote:
>>
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knew what was inside the wrapper so
> it knows not to delay track 1 the 64 samples (I assume there was still a
> faderworks instance on track 1). That's quite a trick and one I'm
> willing to pay for.
>
> wrote:
>> OK
>> I thought I already explained but maybe I did not use the right words for
>> it :)
>>
>> You put faderworks on one of the native slots (you have four right?)
>> I put it on the first one.
>> Then whatever you put on other slots it does not matter because faderworks
>> always does what is supposed to do.
>>
>> Tom, yes why should you use sampleslide when Faderworks has been written
>> to do this for us only BETTER !
>>
>> 1. You put faderworks 1in/1out on every Paris audio track.
>> 2. If you wanna use a stereo pair of tracks the put the 2in/2out faderworks.
>> 3. I made a Default project with 64 (4 cards) faderworks instances already
>> loaded so no hassle thereafter...
>> 4. If you make a list with plugins and latencies (64 for now is more than
>> enouph) these will be remembered with every new project.
>> Just remember to have the button in the OFF state.
>> 5. Even if you use FFX4 and/or chainer or other wrpper on other slots
>> faderworks
>> will do whatever is asked to do.
>> 6 HERE IS HOW IT ACTUALLY WORKS:
>> The default status of the plugin is to ignore the latency status for the
>> track you are putting the plugin.
>> For instance.
>>
>> A. You put a waves renvox on track 1 on slot two either standalone or from
>> withing the FFX4 or chainer...
>> Now the actual latency this plugin introduces is 64 samples.
>> That MEANS that all other Paris audio tracks are 64 samples ahead of track
>> 1 or if you like ,track 1 is 64 sample latent.
>> NOW having in mind that you have put Faderworks on every track then BY JUST
>> pushing the ON button track 1 of the Waves renvox preset then Faderworks
>> DELAYS all other Paris audio tracks by 64 samples LEAVING intact the audio
>> track 1 for which faderworks ignores the latency.
>> OVERALL latency is displayed on every track too !!
>> It even substract latency !!!!
>> So by putting a waves rencomp (64 samples) on track 2 that does NOT mean
>> that faderworks will delay all others again by 64 samples !! , thus overall
>> latency WILL REMAIN at 64 samples, ONLY track 2 which was already 64 samples
>> latent because of track 1 now faderworks just SUBSTRACTS that 64 samples
>> for this track !!
>>
>> Anyone understood what I typed in here ? :)
>> Regards,
>> Dimitrios
>>
>> eff H <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dimitrios
>>>
>>> How does this function with plugins inside a wrapper, for example
>>> autotune wrapped inside FFX4?
>>>
>>> JH
>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I tried the beta1 and it is marvelous.
>>>> It holds 64 presets with latencies so you can just click the on button
>>
>> anytime
>>
>>>> you load the plugin...
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Dimitrios
>>
>>Dimitrios -
I set up a latency page at the Wiki with you (and FaderWorks) especially in
mind -
http://www.kerrygalloway.com/WikiPARIS/wikka.php?wakka=Nativ eLatencyDatabase
If you feel like sharing your list, just throw anything you have up there
and I'll take care of tidying/formatting.
:D
- Kerry
On 4/21/08 9:05 AM, in article 480cbb3a$1@linux, "Dimitrios"
<musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>
> OK
> I thought I already explained but maybe I did not use the right words for
> it :)
>
> You put faderworks on one of the native slots (you have four right?)
> I put it on the first one.
> Then whatever you put on other slots it does not matter because faderworks
> always does what is supposed to do.
>
> Tom, yes why should you use sampleslide when Faderworks has been written
> to do this for us only BETTER !
>
> 1. You put faderworks 1in/1out on every Paris audio track.
> 2. If you wanna use a stereo pair of tracks the put the 2in/2out faderworks.
> 3. I made a Default project with 64 (4 cards) faderworks instances already
> loaded so no hassle thereafter...
> 4. If you make a list with plugins and latencies (64 for now is more than
> enouph) these will be remembered with every new project.
> Just remember to have the button in the OFF state.
> 5. Even if you use FFX4 and/or chainer or other wrpper on other slots
> faderworks
> will do whatever is asked to do.
> 6 HERE IS HOW IT ACTUALLY WORKS:
> The default status of the plugin is to ignore the latency status for the
> track you are putting the plugin.
> For instance.
>
> A. You put a waves renvox on track 1 on slot two either standalone or from
> withing the FFX4 or chainer...
> Now the actual latency this plugin introduces is 64 samples.
> That MEANS that all other Paris audio tracks are 64 samples ahead of track
> 1 or if you like ,track 1 is 64 sample latent.
> NOW having in mind that you have put Faderworks on every track then BY JUST
> pushing the ON button track 1 of the Waves renvox preset then Faderworks
> DELAYS all other Paris audio tracks by 64 samples LEAVING intact the audio
> track 1 for which faderworks ignores the latency.
> OVERALL latency is disp
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alone. It's vintage Duke of Wellington.
>>
>>By this logic, in fact, your OWN amateur pronouncements on politics must
>>be considered utterly without merit. Yet, if you had Tim Robbins's platform,
>>considering how strongly held and sophisticated your viewpoint is, and
how
>>avidly you promote it even to this tiny audience here, would you decline
>>such an opportunity to promote it to the world at large? I can't see it,
>>and I wouldn't fault you. Do you feel that Tim Robbins is less politically
>>sophisticated than yourself?
>>
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>>
>>Venceremos!
>>bunuel
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>Hi Mike,
Please email me if you have a chance - I just found
one of your C1 Tube Mic Proto-types and have a few
questions.
Thanks !
Morgan :)
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I know you're doing the best you can and I appreciate
it. I look here about five time per day. It's my refuge
on bad days. =20
I'm here for you if your revised setup calls for a little cash.
Tom
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
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Yes, it's better... still dodgy though I'm discovering, which at =
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confirms that the line is bad, but also means that service might still =
be
a little patchy until fixed.
How annoying. ;o)
Cheers,
Kim.
Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
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>
>Kim wrote:
>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote:
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>> Anyhow, enough already.
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>>=20
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>> Kim.
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ember reading an article
in Rolling Stone where an interviewer asked Duane Allman what he was doing
for 'the revolution,' and Duane responded, 'Well, I'm striking a chord for
peace.' I think it was then that I adopted the Wayne Coyne attitude of listening
to my favorite musicians about music and not much else.
TCB
"Napolean Blownapart" <nb@elba.net> wrote:
>
>Eh, Thad, if your logic isn't flawed, then you need to either quit the sponge
>monkeys or stop talking about god, the founding fathers, and systems architecture.
> If you still reserve the right to make music, be passionate about religion/sociology,
>history, and IT, then you've just shot your own argument in the ass. By
>your own admission, you are not an expert in all (if any) of these fields.
>
>And for my next obiter dictum, since when does one need to be an expert
to
>make a valid observation or have a good idea? That's rather elitist, no?
>
>NB
>
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>
>>I don't think my logic is flawed. It's very difficult for one human being
>>to become an expert in one field, much less two or three. I know, as I
have
>>failed at a half dozen. Would you listen to Tim Robbins' opinions about
>maritime
>>archeology? Habermas? Cambodian architecture? Politics is as difficult
to
>>master as those, but somehow because someone is a good actor we are supposed
>>to take their opinions seriously.
>>
>>This all stems, in my opinion, in the greatly overstated role that 'artists'
>>played in various movements of the baby boomer's youth.
>>
>>TCB
>>
>>"bunuel" <bunuel@conar.fr> wrote:
>>>
>>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>On the contrary, Bill, I DO have a problem with him being an artist.
I
>>don't
>>>>like to listen to CEOs sing or watch accountants dance or look at paintings
>>>>by politicians. There are plenty of well-informed commentators on current
>>>>affairs who specialize on that, if Tim wants to make a difference he
should
>>>>volunteer.
>>>
>>>
>>>Your reasoning seems flawed on this. The comparison is botched, if you
>will
>>>forgive me. The question ought to be: Do you want to hear a CEO, not sing,
>>>but make political pronouncements? And the answer must be no, according
>>to
>>>you.
>>>
>>>Tim Robbins's occupation is irrelevant. He is an informed citizen and
that's
>>>all the qualification he needs to make stating his views in public not
>only
>>>legitimate but essential.It may be opportunism, but so what? From your
>perspective,
>>>nobody apart from the professional politician ought to be taken seriously
>>>on matters of policy, not CEOs (does Michael Bloomberg pronounce on policy?),
>>>not editors/writers(the Kristols, Buckley, et al), not military people,
>>nor
>>>economists, religionists, nor ordinary people of any stripe. There is
a
>>streak
>>>of tory paternalism in this that is anti democratic to its core: governing
>>>is the province of the elite alone. It's vintage Duke of Wellington.
>>>
>>>By this logic, in fact, your OWN amateur pronouncements on politics must
>>>be considered utterly without merit. Yet, if you had Tim Robbins's platform,
>>>considering how strongly held and sophisticated your viewpoint is, and
>how
>>>avidly you promote it even to this tiny audience here, would you decline
>>>such an opportunity to promote it to the world at large? I can't see
it,
>>>and I wouldn't fault you. Do you feel that Tim Robbins is less politically
>>>sophisticated than yourself?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Venceremos!
>>>bunuel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>But....
It's geared toward companies that have MANY networked copies of FCP so they
can access the same file across all machines.
Martin H
On 11/04/08 3:08 AM, in article 47fe4976$1@linux, "James McCloskey"
<excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>
>> James, you basically post a linke to any press release Apple puts out. That's
>> fine, I don't really care, but Rick was wondering why this completely
>> video-centric
>> link was posted. I explained. That's it.
>
> I don't post any press release Apples put out, but I could if you would like.
>>
>> As I said, nothing to see here folks, keep moving along . . .
>>
>> TCB
>
> I posted it because guys like Jamie and Tony use FCP and possibly others.
> Yes, FCS is geared towards pro video. FCS is a media server, so it can serve
> up audio content.
>
>
>>
>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
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>>>>>>> http://www.apple.com/finalcutserver/?sr=hotnews
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a feeling that there is going to be a new version of Logic
>>>>>>> released
>>>>>>> soon. Maybe a new version of FCP, something's up.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>I mean, I remember reading an article
>in Rolling Stone where an interviewer asked Duane Allman what
>he was doing for 'the revolution,' and Duane responded, 'Well,
>I'm striking a chord for peace.'
And frankly, that's probably the smartest thing any armchair
historian/activist/opinionist can do or say... do what they
can within their area of expertise, and then shut the fuck up.
"Here's a DMaj7 chord - let it bring peace."
Good... let's hope it does. NEXT!!!
At least that does no harm.
Neilthat is so true of macs...the errors or bugs are so inconsistent it
makes me laugh at there ads about not knowing what you'll get when you
buy a pc... especially with the mac version of vista in leopard.
On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:32:22 -0400, Chris Ludwig
<chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>Hi Rick,
> G5 and Intel based Macs have all went through many variations. The behavior of firewire devices varied almost as much. \
>There were some pretty major changes amongst the G5 models along when it came the hardware.
>Kerry luckily is using one that doesn't have any issues.
>
>We have had good luck with the Siig cards on both Mac and PC.
>It is best not to get a combo 800/400 or a 400/usb card. Just get a 400 only. The TI chips used are different than the ones on the combo cards.
>The one that Kim pointed out is a good choice.
>You should pick up a 4pin power extension to use with the Y-Splitter the card comes with.
>The card does need to have the power hooked up.
>The only 4pin (IDE drive) power connection is located up in the section with the CDrom drive so it's a long run.
>
>
>Chris
>
>
>rick wrote:
>> the old drive too slow prompt when two external drives are connected.
>> with only one drive connected the same song plays through without
>> problems; not so with two connected playing the same song off either
>> drive.
>>
>> On 20 Apr 2008 12:41:13 +1000, "kerry g" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>>
>>> That's strange. I've had three to five external drives (currently 1x120, 2x160
>>> and 1x230) and a DVD burner constantly hung off the internal FW of my dual
>>> G5 for two years now (plus a 160 and a 320 internally and a 500 in a USB2.0
>>> cradle). Maybe I'm missing something - what are the symptoms of it misbehaving?
>>>
>>> rick <parnell68athotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> macs don't like multiple connections using their on board fw. i
>>>> already have the pci/firewire for the ad/da and one audio drive and i
>>>> need connections for more portability. i'll also be adding a sata
>>>> drive internally.
>>>>
>>>> i've looked at SIIG and Synchrotech but will pass on lacie stuff.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 09:22:45 -0700, Kerry Galloway
>>>> <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I don't have any experience with the PCI-e ones; what's up? Is your onboard
>>>>> FW dead, or are you just looking for more outputs?
>>>>>
>>>>> - K
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4/17/08 3:30 AM, in article ag9e049j8d37t090dn929o1hbih4m08u9f@4ax.com,
>>>>> "rick" <parnell68athotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> what's good out there?
>>is that a with or without a sunlight tilt? ;o)
On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 11:04:55 -0400, Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com>
wrote:
>Oh yeah and Mr. No Spin (Bill O'Reilly) is the biggest spinner of them
>all. In fact any time he makes the no spin point, you know he just spun
>the crap out of something.
>
>I reckon it's just entertainment. If you take it seriously you WILL end
>up with your head tilting hard to the right.
>
>rick wrote:
>> what i love are the radio jocks who slam anyone of note for expressing
>> an opinion because of thier celebrity while they do the same daily.
>> and what really boggles the mind is that there are those who agree and
>> do not see the irony.
>>
>> On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 02:13:48 -0700, "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I respectfully disagree very much about artists speaking out, and am
>>> reminded of heated arguments with my parents on this very subject. I think
>>> if talent and good luck grant somebody a communication line that powerful,
>>> they definitely should speak out on important issues. My parents saw this
>>> kind of thing as arrogant biting of the hand that feeds you, but I just see
>>> it as being a responsible human being. To suggest that artists should just
>>> do their art and keep their mouths shut seems uncomfortably similar to
>>> suggesting that women should do the same, their "art" being the cookin' and
>>> cleanin' and raisin' the kids.
>>>
>>> Also, I think a lot of outspoken artists do volunteer, join campaigns,
>>> and/or run for office. But if they don't, if they just want to take
>>> advantage of their fame to flap their yaps, I'm fine with that. Flap away.
>>>
>>> S
>>>
>>>
>>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:4809089c$Report message to a moderator
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guy. Nobody, not even Thomas Jefferson, hated Hamilton more
>>>> than Adams. Hamilton was also far from a 'pawn' of bunch of nefarious
>>>> bankers.
>>>> Pawn implied control by others. Hamilton was keenly aware of how finance
>>>> worked, often to a greater degree than the bankers he was dealing with,
>>>> and
>>>> turned out to be right more often than not. His vision of America, as a
>>>> dominant
>>>> power in the Western hemisphere built on a powerful manufacturing economy
>>>> and a strong currency backed by a central bank, was more or less right.
>>>> Jefferson's
>>>> yeomen farmers reaping the fruits of their own labor and the labor of
>>>> their
>>>> dark hued indentured help, while reading Gibbon in the library at night,
>>>> was winsome and romantic. Hell, even Jefferson, with his sizzling gifts
>>>> and
>>>> endless energy, couldn't manage to get out of debt in his life.
>>>>
>>>> Of the 'big four' Adams is probably the most likable, and the second
>>>> easiest
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way from leopard. you can get
a new mac loaded with tiger...though you won't be able to use all 8
cpus if you go that route...plus your ram limit will be 4 gigs.
On 22 Apr 2008 02:58:41 +1000, "Uptown Jimmy"
<johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>Hello again!
>
>My production partner Swen ahs decided that Paris is no longer good enough
>for him, and wants desperately to switch to Logic on a Mac Pro tower. I do
>not know why. He has always railed against what he perceives as being the
>fundamental inadequacy of Paris, though he's never used any other platform,
>and so has no frame of reference.
>
>Anyway, I know a lot of folks here have experience with other platforms,
>and I wondered if anyone could give me some vague particulars as to what
>is possible on a native system these days.
>We regularly rack up track counts of 64 or more, with Paris EQ on almost
>every channel. Can a native Logic system do that? Is latency an issue? Would
>the system be stable and easy to set up and tweak?
>
>Thanks,
>JimmyGuys, what you're overlooking (surprisingly, for such usually insightful
dudes) is that he was addressing the N-A-B. That stands for National
Association of Broadcasters. They are the ones who broadcast his and
other's art as well as news, documentaries, etc. He had a perfect right
and indeed a responsibility to urge the broadcasters to take a higher
road in their broadcasting choices for the well being of the people who
listen/watch.
The idea is this: if you give people some good news, some positive
messages they will be uplifted and more sanguine in their approach to
life and the world around them. Is that such a bad thing? Should we
decry this message because we don't agree with his other messages? That
is the kind of illogical, logger headed thinking that has gotten us to
the point where our government can't agree on anything but going to war
and raising taxes. You guys are smarter than that.
Neil wrote:
> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>> I mean, I remember reading an article
>> in Rolling Stone where an interviewer asked Duane Allman what
>> he was doing for 'the revolution,' and Duane responded, 'Well,
>> I'm striking a chord for peace.'
>
> And frankly, that's probably the smartest thing any armchair
> historian/activist/opinionist can do or say... do what they
> can within their area of expertise, and then shut the fuck up.
> "Here's a DMaj7 chord - let it bring peace."
> Good... let's hope it does. NEXT!!!
>
> At least that does no harm.
>
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Tue, 05 February 2008 20:26 |
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gt;>>>>
>>>>>>> :D
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Kerry
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 4/17/08 1:49 PM, in article 4807b7be$1@linux, "TCB"
>>>>>>> <nobody@ishere.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I agree with a fair bit of the NAB speech, but I find 'artists' going
>>>>> on about
>>>>>>>> politics insufferable. If they really care about this stuff join a
>>>>>>>> campaign
>>>>>>>> or run for office.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> TCB
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Thad, I think he blew the right notes this time. Did you listen?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> TCB wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hollywood blowhard.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> http://adage.com/brightcove/single.php?title=1506582278
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Right on.
>I agree completely, Neil, my point was asking Duane what he was doing 'for
the revolution' was moronic in the extreme.
"Neil" <OIOI@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>>I mean, I remember reading an article
>>in Rolling Stone where an interviewer asked Duane Allman what
>>he was doing for 'the revolution,' and Duane responded, 'Well,
>>I'm striking a chord for peace.'
>
>And frankly, that's probably the smartest thing any armchair
>historian/activist/opinionist can do or say... do what they
>can within their area of expertise, and then shut the fuck up.
>"Here's a DMaj7 chord - let it bring peace."
>Good... let's hope it does. NEXT!!!
>
>At least that does no harm.
>
>NeilCan you explain the problems with "Leopard" ?? I am thinking of doing the
same thing...Anybody use Nuendo with a Mac ??
"rick" <parnell68athotmail.com> wrote in message
news:c28r0457q88rgkseco9vsklj4dio1kn7su@4ax.com...
> with the right set up sure. just stay away from leopard. you can get
> a new mac loaded with tiger...though you won't be able to use all 8
> cpus if you go that route...plus your ram limit will be 4 gigs.
>
> On 22 Apr 2008 02:58:41 +1000, "Uptown Jimmy"
> <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >Hello again!
> >
> >My production partner Swen ahs decided that Paris is no longer good
enough
> >for him
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o test it out.
Then I hear this story on Sunday, I also have A 2247 and have talked to Peluso
a bunch of times.. It was weird hearing him..I must say the recording of
the MTC at the end of the piece did not do much for me.
"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
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>Cool story!
>
>Man, we live in gear heaven don't we?
>
>
>DC
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>
>"Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
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>>
>> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=8970561 0
>>
>Nice idea, Neil. If we put your rule into effect it would totally shut
down the blathersphere. Talk radio would switch to 24 hour polka music
and all the armchair pundits would have to get real jobs. Cable news
channels would have to drop the talking head shouting matches and do
some actual reporting. One-sided political apologist sites would go out
of business, or maybe they could discuss their favorite polka artists
instead.
You may be on to something there. :^)
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
Neil wrote:
> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>> I mean, I remember reading an article
>> in Rolling Stone where an interviewer asked Duane Allman what
>> he was doing for 'the revolution,' and Duane responded, 'Well,
>> I'm striking a chord for peace.'
>
> And frankly, that's probably the smartest thing any armchair
> historian/activist/opinionist can do or say... do what they
> can within their area of expertise, and then shut the fuck up.
> "Here's a DMaj7 chord - let it bring peace."
> Good... let's hope it does. NEXT!!!
>
> At least that does no harm.
>
> NeilHi Neil,
Thanks - Actually I was hoping for some tips on how
to re voice the mic , I think this was one of his First
prototypes.
Mike - you out there Bro ?
"Neil" <IOUIOU@OI.com> wrote in message news:480d4260$1@linux...
>
> "Morgan" <morganp@ntplx.net> wrote:
>>Hi Mike,
>>Please email me if you have a chance - I just found
>>one of your C1 Tube Mic Proto-types and have a few
>>questions.
>
> No, he doesn't want to set up an assembly line in his garage
> to make 100 more of 'em.
>
> lol
>
> :)Yes, but the real question at hand is whether or not there is chicken in
that tuna can.
AA
"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote in message news:480e288d$1@linux...
>
> I remember Richard Gere going all holier-than-thou-because-I-am-
> a-pacifist on the "Concert for NYC" stage after 911...
> The crowd of cops, firepeople, widows and the general bereaved
> booed him right off the stage. It was a great moment.
>
> Now, no matter how you come down on the issue of violence
> and the concept of "just war", Gere was using his fame as a
> platform to jam his views down the throats of the proles.
> I am here to tell you that millions of us won't put up with that
> anymore.
>
> I don't care what my doctor thinks of Jessica Simpson, and
> I don't care what Jessica thinks of socialized medicine.
>
> DCAccording to Mr Amercian Heritage, politics is "the art or science of
governing . . . " and to govern is "To make and administer the public policy
and affairs of; exercise sovereign authority in." Hmm, OK, who should we be
listening to on this subject? Who are the "experts" and how did they get
that way? Masters of Political Science? I don't think you'll find many of
those among our leaders. There are lot of lawyers in the ranks, but I'm not
sure that makes anyone an expert in governing. Is it time spent in the
halls of congress that makes one an "expert"? So we should listen to the
really old guys? . . . Ted Stevens leaps to mind. Or Ted Kennedy for that
matter.
Have you ever watched C-Span, or other examples of our government at work?
Some of those people just don't strike me as our best and brightest. I can
only watch that stuff for about five minutes before I scream and change the
channel. It's just so intolerably slow and painfully dispassionate. If
those are our experts, I can see why we're in serious trouble.
Are there really any experts in politics/governing? Who are they, and what
are their credentials? In our system of government, aren't WE essentially
the government? Doesn't that mean give every one of us the "expertise,"
possibly even the duty to speak up?
It's possible, of course, "that government of the people, by the people, for
the people" has long since perished "from the earth." But maybe it's not
dead, only sleeping.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that most of the politically
outspoken actors and rock stars express liberal points of view, which is
understandably annoying to those of a conservative bent, and may be seen as
an unfair advantage in the "culture war."
It would be nice if we could end the "culture war" and calmly, rationally,
simply seek out the truth, but that just may go against human nature. We're
far more invested in what we choose to believe.
S
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:480d57a0$1@linux...
>
> Nonsense. I don't use my skills in any one area to try to convince anyone
> of my knowledge in any other. I'm a very good IT guy, a decent amateur
> historian,
> and fairly widely read. However, I don't expect that because I know my way
> around the XP registry that anyone should take my opinions about anything
> else seriously. They're welcome to take it or leave it. Artists are
> explicitly
> or implicitly (usually explicitly) claiming that their status as an artist
> allows them some greater degree of insight into the world than the rest of
> us. They might even have that, insight into the world or the self. But
> politics,
> current events, environmental damage, and so forth have precious little to
> do with acting or playing guitar.
>
> I tend to take seriously people who have unique or at least unusual
> backgrounds
> that give them additional gravitas when covering a particular subject. Tim
> Robbins to me has borderline zero gravitas, I happen to agree with a good
> bit of what he says but I don't take his opinion all that seriously.
>
> In addition, most of what I talk about regarding US history, system
> architecture,
> and so forth can be checked against quality records as matters of fact.
> The
> god stuff not so much, although I think we're getting closer and closer to
> that all the time.
>
> Finally, in my personal experience 'artists,' particularly actors and
> musicians,
> tend not to be terribly well informed people. It's rare that I get
> anything
> out of them but pretty vanilla American leftism. Writers are often, though
> certainly not always, another breed. I mean, I remember reading an article
> in Rolling Stone where an interviewer asked Duane Allman what he was doing
> for 'the revolution,' and Duane responded, 'Well, I'm striking a chord for
> peace.' I think it was then that I adopted the Wayne Coyne attitude of
> listening
> to my favorite musicians about music and not much else.
>
> TCB
>
> "Napolean Blownapart" <nb@elba.net> wrote:
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>>Eh, Thad, if your logic isn't flawed, then you need to either quit the
>>sponge
>>monkeys or stop talking about god, the founding fathers, and systems
>>architecture.
>> If you still reserve the right to make music, be passionate about
>> religion/sociology,
>>history, and IT, then you've just shot your own argument in the ass. By
>>your own admission, you are not an expert in all (if any) of these fields.
>>
>>And for my next obiter dictum, since when does one need to be an expert
> to
>>make a valid observation or have a good idea? That's rather elitist, no?
>>
>>NB
>>
>>
>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>I don't think my logic is flawed. It's very difficult for one human being
>>>to become an expert in one field, m
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do not experience problems but a majority do. my experience is with
logic and not nuendo and out of the five people running 10.5 and logic
only one has it working without too many problems. the other 4 went
back to tiger. the problems are too numerous to list...once you can
even get logic to boot consistently.
On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 11:08:47 -0400, "tonehouse" <zmcleod@comcast.net>
wrote:
>Can you explain the problems with "Leopard" ?? I am thinking of doing the
>same thing...Anybody use Nuendo with a Mac ??
>"rick" <parnell68athotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:c28r0457q88rgkseco9vsklj4dio1kn7su@4ax.com...
>> with the right set up sure. just stay away from leopard. you can get
>> a new mac loaded with tiger...though you won't be able to use all 8
>> cpus if you go that route...plus your ram limit will be 4 gigs.
>>
>> On 22 Apr 2008 02:58:41 +1000, "Uptown Jimmy"
>> <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >Hello again!
>> >
>> >My production partner Swen ahs decided that Paris is no longer good
>enough
>> >for him, and wants desperately to switch to Logic on a Mac Pro tower. I
>do
>> >not know why. He has always railed against what he perceives as being the
>> >fundamental inadequacy of Paris, though he's never used any other
>platform,
>> >and so has no frame of reference.
>> >
>> >Anyway, I know a lot of folks here have experience with other platforms,
>> >and I wondered if anyone could give me some vague particulars as to what
>> >is possible on a native system these days.
>> >We regularly rack up track counts of 64 or more, with Paris EQ on almost
>> >every channel. Can a native Logic system do that? Is latency an issue?
>Would
>> >the system be stable and easy to set up and tweak?
>> >
>> >Thanks,
>> >Jimmy
>>
>head up the poop chute.
On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 08:46:42 -0400, Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com>
wrote:
>Hey Rick, I did not get that one.
>
>rick wrote:
>> is that a with or without a sunlight tilt? ;o)
>>
>> On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 11:04:55 -0400, Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Oh yeah and Mr. No Spin (Bill O'Reilly) is the biggest spinner of them
>>> all. In fact any time he makes the no spin point, you know he just spun
>>> the crap out of something.
>>>
>>> I reckon it's just entertainment. If you take it seriously you WILL end
>>> up with your head tilting hard to the right.
>>>
>>> rick wrote:
>>>> what i love are the radio jocks who slam anyone of note for expressing
>>>> an opinion because of thier celebrity while they do the same daily.
>>>> and what really boggles the mind is that there are those who agree and
>>>> do not see the irony.
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 02:13:48 -0700, "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I respectfully disagree very much about artists speaking out, and am
>>>>> reminded of heated arguments with my parents on this very subject. I think
>>>>> if talent and good luck grant somebody a communication line that powerful,
>>>>> they definitely should speak out on important issues. My parents saw this
>>>>> kind of thing as arrogant biting of the hand that feeds you, but I just see
>>>>> it as being a responsible human being. To suggest that artists should just
>>>>> do their art and keep their mouths shut seems uncomfortably similar to
>>>>> suggesting that women should do the same, their "art" being the cookin' and
>>>>> cleanin' and raisin' the kids.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, I think a lot of outspoken artists do volunteer, join campaigns,
>>>>> and/or run for office. But if they don't, if they just want to take
>>>>> advantage of their fame to flap their yaps, I'm fine with that. Flap away.
>>>>>
>>>>> S
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:4809089c$1@linux...
>>>>>> On the contrary, Bill, I DO have a problem with him being an artist. I
>>>>>> don't
>>>>>> like to listen to CEOs sing or watch accountants dance or look at
>>>>>> paintings
>>>>>> by politicians. There are plenty of well-informed commentators on current
>>>>>> affairs who specialize on that, if Tim wants to make a difference he
>>>>>> should
>>>>>> volunteer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As far as John Adams, it's hard to hear his take on Hamilton and not wind
>>>>>> up hating the guy. Nobody, not even Thomas Jefferson, hated Hamilton more
>>>>>> than Adams. Hamilton was also far from a 'pawn' of bunch of nefarious
>>>>>> bankers.
>>>>>> Pawn implied control by others. Hamilton was keenly aware of how finance
>>>>>> worked, often to a greater degree than the bankers he was dealing with,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> turned out to be right more often than not. His vision of America, as a
>>>>>> dominant
>>>>>> power in the Western hemisphere built on a powerful manufacturing economy
>>>>>> and a strong currency backed by a central bank, was more or less right.
>>>>>> Jefferson's
>>>>>> yeomen farmers reaping the fruits of their own labor and the labor of
>>>>>> their
>>>>>> dark hued indentured help, while reading Gibbon in the library at night,
>>>>>> was winsome and romantic. Hell, even Jefferson, with his sizzling gifts
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> endless energy, couldn't manage to get out of debt in his life.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of the 'big four' Adams is probably the most likable, and the second
>>>>>> easiest
>>>>>> to understand. His appetites and vices were modest, his opinions were
>>>>>> fairly
>>>>>> straightforward and honest. It's good to see him getting a day in the sun,
>>>>>> it's richly deserved.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TCB
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Kerry, I don't think Thad has a problem with his being an artist.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Actually I do think we all have a responsibility to say what we believe
>>>>>>> and what we think will be of value to others. Great artists have
>>>>>>> powerful voices and they absolutely should communicate for the
>>>>>>> betterment of society and the future of the civilization. Frankly I
>>>>>>> would much rather hear heart felt opinions from an intelligent actor
>>>>>>> like Tim Robbins (Erik the Viking!) than the compromised party line we
>>>>>>> hear from most pragmatic politicians.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Has anyone been watching the John Adams HBO series? Even at the birth of
>>>>>>> our Republic we had bankers' pawns like Hamilton scheming to put the
>>>>>>> country into debt with an expensive army and war.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kerry Galloway wrote:
>>>>>>>> Wait a sec. Aren't the bulk of PARIS NG contributors "artists" too,
>>>>>>>> pretty
>>>>>>>> much by definition?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> :D
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - Kerry
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 4/17/08 1:49 PM, in article 4807b7be$1@linux, "TCB"
>>>>>>>> <nobody@ishere.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I agree with a fair bit of the NAB speech, but I find 'artists' going
>>>>>> on about
>>>>>>>>> politics insufferable. If they really care about this stuff join a
>>>>>>>>> campaign
>>>>>>>>> or run for office.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> TCB
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bill L
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