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| Re: Really important 0 delay Paris subgroup !!! [message #82007 is a reply to message #82005] |
Fri, 23 March 2007 06:41   |
Don Nafe
Messages: 1206
Registered: July 2005
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't get too overboard. In any =
event, I *might* be able to approach what Paris can do now on modest =
projects (isn't that sick?)
the RAM:
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=3DN82E1682022 7187
The total with a new PSU and video card would be around $1800.00....or =
less if I just went with 2GHz RAM for now. Just a little more than the =
single socket Quad core Intel system. I'm seeing user reviews that say =
that these Opterons either smoke the Intel Xeons dual cores, or are at =
least as fast. One big advantage I see to going with this dual socket =
setup is that, at least from what I'm hearing with the ASUS mobo, I'll =
be able to drop dual AMD quads or Octos in it if need be. The other big =
advantage is that I can run my UAD-1's/Magma via the 32 bit PCI slot in =
either one of them. With the Tyan, I can interface the other Magma with =
the RME cards via the PCIX slot. With the the ASUS I would have to =
spring for a PCIe interface for one of my Magmas ($299.00) and use the =
PCIe x 1 slot.. When 64bit OS becomes a must, I could still go with the =
SBS PCIe>PCI chassis and likely interface with either of these mobos.
The Tyan has much more in the way of options. It's a monster, but if it =
won't support future CPU upgrades, that's something to consider. I hope =
it will, bec
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| Re: Really important 0 delay Paris subgroup !!! [message #82030 is a reply to message #82029] |
Fri, 23 March 2007 12:07 |
Dimitrios
Messages: 1056
Registered: August 2005
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empted to make the
> move
>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>> now (besides=20
>>>>>>>> wanting the horsepower) is that although the prices of the CPU's =
>>>>>>>> will be=20
>>>>>>>> coming down over the next few months, so will the price I'll be able
>>>> to
>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>> get for=20
>>>>>>>> my Magma's since they are 32 bit units (although 2 x of them are
>>>>>>>> capable
>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>> of=20
>>>>>>>> integrating the PCIe host card so this gives them a little added value
>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>> on=20
>>>>>>>> EBay).</FONT></P>
>>>>>>>> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any thoughts?</FONT></P>
>>>>>>>> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P>
>>>>>>>> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P>
>>>>>>>> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P>
>>>>>>>> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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>DJ wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDF_8-21SUQ
>
>
Back in the '70s I occasionally shopped their original store on Sunset
Blvd. This was the sales cycle:
Customer: "Hey, man, can I try that Mutron Phasor pedal."
GC salesman: "Are you buying today?"
Needless to say, I shopped at Nadine's.
BillOnce again, its so amazing how far ahead of its time Paris was -still is!!
Its not sample accurate and I certainly have not tried to mic up a big
session (biggest was a four piece band), but locking with smpte (to drive
computers that run midi stuff) Paris continues to rock. In fact, the only
reason I don't use it more is simply because I'm trying to make the thing
last by keeping the hours down on the card, MEC and C16. Having said that,
it sure will be nice to get all that functionality in one box :-)
By the way, thanks for posting about your change over to Cubase DJ. Its
been very helpful as I (we :-) ) look to the future.
....boldly go.
MR
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:462aa253$1@linux...
> I think this is the kind of thing that's in store for us once Vista comes
of
> age and our audio app
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| Re: Really important 0 delay Paris subgroup !!! [message #82031 is a reply to message #82016] |
Fri, 23 March 2007 12:26 |
duncan
Messages: 123
Registered: November 2006
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s can support such things:
>
>
http://www.pricerunner.com/pl/35-733473/Motherboards/Tyan-Th under-n4250QE-(S4985)-Compare-Prices
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> Drop 4 x Octocore CPU's in one of these and you might be able to run a few
> plugins. I wouldn't be surprised if Apple already has a 4 socket quad in
the
> wings right now.
>
> In two years we're gonna be in heaven guys (broke, but in heaven)
>
> ;o)
>
>"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:462ba41e@linux...
> Once again, its so amazing how far ahead of its time Paris was -still is!!
I certainly agree with this.
> Its not sample accurate and I certainly have not tried to mic up a big
> session (biggest was a four piece band), but locking with smpte (to drive
> computers that run midi stuff) Paris continues to rock.
It's sample accurate if you slave another app to Paris ADAT sync.
In fact, the only
> reason I don't use it more is simply because I'm trying to make the thing
> last by keeping the hours down on the card, MEC and C16. Having said
> that,
> it sure will be nice to get all that functionality in one box :-)
It's gotta' be a very expensive box to come anywhere close to what Paris can
do.
> By the way, thanks for posting about your change over to Cubase DJ. Its
> been very helpful as I (we :-) ) look to the future.
> ...boldly go.
> MR
My antics are a direct result of my having read innumerable posts here by
folks like Dedric, LaMont, Brian T., Aaron, Thad, Dave, Neil, John and
numerous others and therefore my pain is all their fault.
;o)
>
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:462aa253$1@linux...
>> I think this is the kind of thing that's in store for us once Vista comes
> of
>> age and our audio apps can support such things:
>>
>>
> http://www.pricerunner.com/pl/35-733473/Motherboards/Tyan-Th under-n4250QE-(S4985)-Compare-Prices
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>> Drop 4 x Octocore CPU's in one of these and you might be able to run a
>> few
>> plugins. I wouldn't be surprised if Apple already has a 4 socket quad in
> the
>> wings right now.
>>
>> In two years we're gonna be in heaven guys (broke, but in heaven)
>>
>> ;o)
>>
>>
&g
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| Re: Really important 0 delay Paris subgroup !!! [message #82035 is a reply to message #82034] |
Fri, 23 March 2007 13:21 |
"Kris" .
Messages: 27
Registered: June 2006
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to utilize my existing PCI audio interfacing with PCIe
>>>>=
>>>>>>>>hardware=20
>>>>>>>>without having to replace it with a mishmash combination of PCIe/PCI
>>>>=
>>>>>>>>stuff and I=20
>>>>>>>>would be 64 bit capable when the time comes and I want to go to Vista
>>>>=
>>>>>>>>and run 8G=20
>>>>>>>>of RAM on the DAW.</FONT></P>
>>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I really like the RME HDSP
>>>>>>>>configuration
>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>I've got now=20
>>>>>>>>with the Multiface and the 2 x HDSP 9652's with 16 AD/DA's on the
>=
>>>>>>>>ADI8-DS units=20
>>>>>>>>and I don't really want to spend the extra $$ on RME and UAD-1 PCIe
>>> =
>>>>>>>>hardware if=20
>>>>>>>>I can just integrate my existing PCI hardware with the PCIe > PCi
>SBS
>>>>=
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>chassis. There might be a small hit to performance with the
>>>>>>>>PCi>PCIe=20
>>>>>>>>conversion as compared to interfacing PCIe directly with the mobo,
>but
>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>>the new=20
>>>>>>>>mobos don't have enough PCIe slots to allow me to use the number
of
>>> =
>>>>>>>>cards I want=20
>>>>>>>>to use without a PCIe expansion chassis anyway....and this will need
>>>>to
>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>be 64=20
>>>>>>>>bit eventually so there's a $2k expense, no matter how you cut it.
>So
>>>>=
>>>>>>>>why=20
>>>>>>>>upgrade PCI cards to PCIe if I can get a PCIe chassis that will =
>>>>>>>>hold all my=20
>>>>>>>>PCI cards and allow them to interface PCIe anyway?</FONT></P>
>>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The reason I'm tempted to make the
>move
>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>>now (besides=20
>>>>>>>
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