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| Re: Well........looks like between me and Matrox, we managed to kill a computer [message #67239 is a reply to message #67236] |
Sat, 22 April 2006 20:38   |
Neil
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>any good mobo like an asus or gigabyte (see dj's thread) or such will do.
i've tried to stay away from the ones with the onboard stuff built-in,
although I had good times with the supermicro with the onboard adaptec scsi.
....now there's one you don't see alot...Supermicro..(or scsi....lol) but
there damn fine mobos...they sometimes need a massage from the swedish
prime-minister in terms of the bios ala dj's recent offerings....
I recently aquired 3 of their quad xeon super-servers via ebay and
we're gonna put one of them in service in the audio dept...uh, this
weekend I think...hmmm..my guru has the Big C and we're moving rather
slowly for a while around here (and the swedish fella's been a bit of a
pill about the ol' bios retrograde...lol) ...but hopefully we'll get'm
up this weekend....
unfortunatly paris isn't getting one....what with the multi-proc
issues....dag nabit....can you imagine paris on an 8g/ram 64bit/quad
xeon?..holly heck!.....but nuendo's gettin' one so I'll finally be able
to run everything I need outa that box....but I digress.....
j
Lou C. wrote:
>Just wondering what model of pc or which motherboard you guys are using with
>Paris Pro 3 and XP, and have it running completely stable? For example:
>HP, Dell, Gateway or Compaq.
>Asus, Abit Gigabyte motherboards
>Pentium 4, Celeron, Athlon, Duron, etc..
>
>Also, if you don't know specifics, how old is it?
>
>
>
>i follow some of the links on that site and there's some pretty cool
stuff going on at U Tokyo
http://projects.star.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/projects/MEDIA/xv/oc.ht ml
DJ wrote:
>http://www.lenovo-tapes.com/index.html
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>
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>Hi Folks!
I wonder how You would compress a group, of say 12 drum tracks, in PARIS?
I would want the whole kit to go through a stereo compressor during mix
Please. say something clever! :)
All the best
CJGsorry dude, the cleverest thing I've heard today is:
-I don't believe in astrology.
-why not?
-cuz my horoscope today said not to be gulible.
j
CJG wrote:
>Hi Folks!
>I wonder how You would comp
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| Re: Well........looks like between me and Matrox, we managed to kill a computer [message #67240 is a reply to message #67236] |
Sat, 22 April 2006 21:08 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
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ress a group, of say 12 drum tracks, in PARIS?
>I would want the whole kit to go through a stereo compressor during mix
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>Please. say something clever! :)
>All the best
>CJG
>
>OK, I get the point; )
But it sure was clever...
CJG
jef knight <thestudio@allknightmusic.com> wrote:
>sorry dude, the cleverest thing I've heard today is:
>
>-I don't believe in astrology.
>-why not?
>-cuz my horoscope today said not to be gulible.
>
>j
>
>CJG wrote:
>
>>Hi Folks!
>>I wonder how You would compress a group, of say 12 drum tracks, in PARIS?
>>I would want the whole kit to go through a stereo compressor during mix
>>
>>Please. say something clever! :)
>>All the best
>>CJG
>>
>>There are 5 ways that I know of to do this.
1. Just send all of your tracks to a big analogue console and squash and mix
them there just like you would with a tape recorder.
2. Send the tracks out the Paris inserts to an analog mixer, compress them
there, then return the two track to a pair of Paris inputs.
3. Build a second single card Paris system and network the two systems.
Install a Steinberg Midex on the system that you want to be a slave.
Set the slave system with the Midex to slave to smpte and send a smpte audio
track from the master system to the Midex on the slave system.
Either send the drum tracks to the slave system or all of the other tracks
to the slave system and keep the drum tracks on the master system, then use
NoLimit or another stereo comp across the Global bus of whichever system
(master or slave) has the drum tracks and route the outputs of the system
run
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| Re: Well........looks like between me and Matrox, we managed to kill a computer [message #67242 is a reply to message #67239] |
Sat, 22 April 2006 21:30 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
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acks through a digital
matrix, looping it through busses on a separate DAW to a 2 bus comp, then
returning the 2 bus to Paris and it is so much digital insanity and $$$ that
you may not want to go there, but it is very flexible and really works well
if you've got a very powerful native system.
5. The last one is to strap an analog comp across one of the paris aux
busses and crank the aux send to taste, blending the compressed signal in
with the uncompressed tracks........there's a 1.5ms latency doing this with
an analog comp, only 2 samples or so doing it digitally. I do this a lot and
it works very well.
I think our resident guru Dimitrios probably has other esoteric options for
this using a palette of chainers, FX and wrappers, but I'm not sure.
;o)
..
"CJG" <cj@grimmark.com> wrote in message news:4463d83e$1@linux...
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> Hi Folks!
> I wonder how You would compress a group, of say 12 drum tracks, in PARIS?
> I would want the whole kit to go through a stereo compressor during mix
>
> Please. say something clever! :)
> All the best
> CJGASUS A7V8X works great with Paris.
"Lou C." <aardvark@comcast.net> wrote in message news:44638076@linux...
> Just wondering what model of pc or which motherboard you guys are using
with
> Paris Pro 3 and XP, and have it running completely stable? For example:
> HP, Dell, Gateway or Compaq.
> Asus, Abit Gigabyte motherboards
> Pentium 4, Celeron, Athlon, Duron, etc..
>
> Also, if you don't know specifics, how old is it?
>
>6. Bounce all the tracks down to a 2-channel submix and apply
the compression across that... that way you can blend
uncompressed & compressed signals to taste.
7.) Try inserting a compressor just on the overheads...
sometimes that's all it takes.
Neil
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>There are 5 ways that I know of to do this.
>
>1. Just send all of your tracks to a big analogue console and squash and
mix
>them there just like you would with a tape recorder.
>
>
>2. Send the tracks out the Paris inserts to an analog mixer, compress them
>there, then return the two track to a pair of Paris inputs.
>
>3. Build a second single card Paris system and network the two systems.
>Install a Steinberg Midex on the system that you want to be a slave.
>Set the slave system with the Midex to slave to smpte and send a smpte audio
>track from the master system to the Midex on the slave system.
>Either send the drum tracks to the slave system or all of the other tracks
>to the slave system and keep the drum tracks on the master system, then
use
>NoLimit or another stereo comp across the Global bus of whichever system
>(master or slave) has the drum tracks and route the outputs of th
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| Re: Well........looks like between me and Matrox, we managed to kill a computer [message #67243 is a reply to message #67242] |
Sat, 22 April 2006 22:01 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
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e system
>running the drum tracks to a pair of inputs on the system playing back the
>rest of the tracks..........basically you are timeline syncing two separate
>Paris systems via smpte stripe and using the global bus of one of the
>systems as a drum bus only, sending the compressed bus to the other Paris
>DAW.
>
>4. Is the way I do it and it involves routing Paris tracks through a digital
>matrix, looping it through busses on a separate DAW to a 2 bus comp, then
>returning the 2 bus to Paris and it is so much digital insanity and $$$
that
>you may not want to go there, but it is very flexible and really works well
>if you've got a very powerful native system.
>
>5. The last one is to strap an analog comp across one of the paris aux
>busses and crank the aux send to taste, blending the compressed signal in
>with the uncompressed tracks........there's a 1.5ms latency doing this with
>an analog comp, only 2 samples or so doing it digitally. I do this a lot
and
>it works very well.
>
>
>I think our resident guru Dimitrios probably has other esoteric options
for
>this using a palette of chainers, FX and wrappers, but I'm not sure.
>
>;o)
>.
>
>"CJG" <cj@grimmark.com> wrote in message news:4463d83e$1@linux...
>>
>> Hi Folks!
>> I wonder how You would compress a group, of say 12 drum tracks, in PARIS?
>> I would want the whole kit to go through a stereo compressor during mix
>>
>> Please. say something clever! :)
>> All the best
>> CJG
>
>geez, that was alot better than my answer...lol
j
DJ wrote:
>There are 5 ways that I know of to do this.
>
>1. Just send all of your tracks to a big analogue console and squash and mix
>them there just like you would with a tape recorder.
>
>
>2. Send the tracks out the Paris inserts to an analog mixer, compress them
>there, then return the two track to a pair of Paris inputs.
>
>3. Build a second single card Paris system and network the two systems.
>Install a Steinberg Midex on the system that you want to be a slave.
>Set the slave system with the Midex to slave to smpte and send a smpte audio
>track from the master system to the Midex on the slave system.
>Either send the drum tracks to the slave system or all of the other tracks
>to the slave system and keep the drum tracks on the master system, then use
>NoLimit or another stereo comp across the Global bus of whichever system
>(master or slave) has the drum tracks and route the outputs of the system
>running the drum tracks to a pair of inputs on the system playing back the
>rest of the tracks..........basically you are timeline syncing two separate
>Paris systems via smpte stripe and using the global bus of one of the
>systems as a drum bus only, sending the compressed bus to the other Paris
>DAW.
>
>4. Is the way I do it and it involves routing Paris tracks through a digital
>matrix, looping it through busses on a separate DAW to a 2 bus comp, then
>returning the 2 bus to Paris and it is so much digital insanity and $$$ that
>you may not want to go there, but it is very flexible and really works well
>if you've got a very powerful native system.
>
>5. The last one is to strap an analog comp across one of the paris aux
>busses and crank the aux send to taste, blending the compressed signal in
>with the uncompressed tracks........there's a 1.5ms latency doing this with
>an analog comp, only 2 samples or so doing it digitally. I do this a lot and
>it works very well.
>
>
>I think our resident guru Dimitrios probably has other esoteric options for
>this using a palette of chainers, FX and wrappers, but I'm not sure.
>
>;o)
>.
>
>"CJG" <cj@grimmark.com> wrote in message news:4463d83e$1@linux...
>
>
>>Hi Folks!
>>I wonder how You would compress a group, of say 12 drum tracks, in PARIS?
>>I would want the whole kit to go through a stereo compressor during mix
>>
>>Please. say something clever! :)
>>All the best
>>CJG
>>
>>
>
>
>
>DJ,
THANKS for taking time typing all that!!
I'll most likely find the solotion in Your little novel ;)
Sending the tracks out to a separate console seems to be a pretty smooth
way to me.
Thanks
CJG
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>There are 5 ways that I know of to do this.
>
>1. Just send all of your tracks to a big analogue console and squash and
mix
>them there just like you would with a tape recorder.
>
>
>2. Send the tracks out the Paris inserts to an analog mixer, compress them
>there, then return the two track to a pair of Paris inputs.
>
>3. Build a second single card Paris system and network the two systems.
>Install a Steinberg Midex on the system that you want to be a slave.
>Set the slave system with the Midex to slave to smpte and send a smpte audio
>track from the master system to the Midex on the slave system.
>Either send the drum tracks to the slave system or all of the other tracks
>to the slave system and keep the drum tracks on the master system, then
use
>NoLimit or another stereo comp across the Global bus of whichever system
>(master or slave) has the drum tracks and route the outputs of the system
>running the drum tracks to a pair of inputs on the system pla
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| Re: Well........looks like between me and Matrox, we managed to kill a computer [message #67250 is a reply to message #67236] |
Sun, 23 April 2006 07:44 |
Rich Lamanna
Messages: 316
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/>
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>>1. Just send all of your tracks to a big analogue console and squash and
>mix
>>them there just like you would with a tape recorder.
>>
>>
>>2. Send the tracks out the Paris inserts to an analog mixer, compress them
>>there, then return the two track to a pair of Paris inputs.
>>
>>3. Build a second single card Paris system and network the two systems.
>>Install a Steinberg Midex on the system that you want to be a slave.
>>Set the slave system with the Midex to slave to smpte and send a smpte
audio
>>track from the master system to the Midex on the slave system.
>>Either send the drum tracks to the slave system or all of the other tracks
>>to the slave system and keep the drum tracks on the master system, then
>use
>>NoLimit or another stereo comp across the Global bus of whichever system
>>(master or slave) has the drum tracks and route the outputs of the system
>>running the drum tracks to a pair of inputs on the system playing back
the
>>rest of the tracks..........basically you are timeline syncing two separate
>>Paris systems via smpte stripe and using the global bus of one of the
>>systems as a drum bus only, sending the compressed bus to the other Paris
>>DAW.
>>
>>4. Is the way I do it and it involves routing Paris tracks through a digital
>>matrix, looping it through busses on a separate DAW to a 2 bus comp, then
>>returning the 2 bus to Paris and it is so much digital insanity and $$$
>that
>>you may not want to go there, but it is very flexible and really works
well
>>if you've got a very powerful native system.
>>
>>5. The last one is to strap an analog comp across one of the paris aux
>>busses and crank the aux send to taste, blending the compressed signal
in
>>with the uncompressed tracks........there's
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| Re: Well........looks like between me and Matrox, we managed to killa computer [message #67251 is a reply to message #67236] |
Sun, 23 April 2006 06:58 |
jef knight[1]
Messages: 201
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a 1.5ms latency doing this
with
>>an analog comp, only 2 samples or so doing it digitally. I do this a lot
>and
>>it works very well.
>>
>>
>>I think our resident guru Dimitrios probably has other esoteric options
>for
>>this using a palette of chainers, FX and wrappers, but I'm not sure.
>>
>>;o)
>>.
>>
>>"CJG" <cj@grimmark.com> wrote in message news:4463d83e$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Hi Folks!
>>> I wonder how You would compress a group, of say 12 drum tracks, in PARIS?
>>> I would want the whole kit to go through a stereo compressor during mix
>>>
>>> Please. say something clever! :)
>>> All the best
>>> CJG
>>
>>
>I just had to swap monitors on a machine running Win 95. I had been using a
17" Samsung LCD. I switched to an old E-systems 15" CRT. The taskbar at the
bottom has disappeared. The computer l,oaded the proper driver for the CRT
and I have adjucted the resolution to where it should be, but no taskbar
shows up at the bottom of the screen.
Am I hallucinating...........(again)?position your cursor at the bottom of the screen, click on the very edge of
the screen & drag upwards... it should expand.
"DJ" <Report message to a moderator
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| Re: Well........looks like between me and Matrox, we managed to kill a computer [message #67254 is a reply to message #67252] |
Sun, 23 April 2006 10:05 |
Rich Lamanna
Messages: 316
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olution to where it should be, but no
taskbar
> > >shows up at the bottom of the screen.
> > >
> > >Am I hallucinating...........(again)?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>I am limited to VGA output, so the Apple monitors won't work, and
even if I use a convertor, there are no widescreen rezzes available
in the G3..
Ideas? Can I get drivers that will work on OS9.2 and provide
widescreen outputs?
DC
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>I just got one of the 24" wide screens from Dell, 1920 x 1600 I think. It's
>pretty great, and I think I could fit two on my desk. Then again, that 30"
>dell or an Apple 30" would be quite nice.
>
>"DC" <DC@spammersinhell.org> wrote:
>>
>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>>I know.......I'm almost embarrased......... Don.....I'm gonna need to
loan
>>>you a Matrox G450 AGP and two G450 PCI cards so you can run six monitors
>>and
>>>achieve some wretched excess. You'rte wayyyyyy too strack
>>>here.........oops.........do I see a Mac?????
>>
>>
>>A MAC?? WHERE?? OMG, how did THAT get in here....
>>
>>Shhh, there's another one on the table top. I think they're
>>reproducing...
>>
>>
>>I hate the single nonitor, but the solution if probably going to be
>>one BEEG monitor rather than 2.
>>
>>DC
>Check the FS site if you're looking for a very unique FX processor.
;o)That happens again and you should hit the windows key and see where it comes
up at :)
AA
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:4463f9d8$1@linux...
> Yeah!!! It's back.
>
> ;o)
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> news:4463f95a@linux...
>> Tried it..........didn't work. I just booted into Safe Mode and it showed
>> up. Now I'm rebooting again and hopefully it will show up again.
>>
>> ;O}
>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:4463f386$1@linux...
>> >
>> > position your cursor at the bottom of the screen, click on the very
>> > edge
>> of
>> > the screen & drag upwards... it should expand.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>> > &g
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| Re: Well........looks like between me and Matrox, we managed to killa computer [message #67262 is a reply to message #67252] |
Sun, 23 April 2006 13:12 |
Chris Ludwig
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>> >
>> >
>>
>
>I am limited to VGA output, so the Apple monitors won't work, and
> even if I use a convertor, there are no widescreen rezzes available
> in the G3
> Ideas?
Letsee........I'd start with some super glue, a section of PVC pipe and an
old radiator core.......you will also need a crescent wrench....
"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.org> wrote in message news:4463fe3a@linux...
>
> I am limited to VGA output, so the Apple monitors won't work, and
> even if I use a convertor, there are no widescreen rezzes available
> in the G3..
>
> Ideas? Can I get drivers that will work on OS9.2 and provide
> widescreen outputs?
>
> DC
>
> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
> >
> >I just got one of the 24" wide screens from Dell, 1920 x 1600 I think.
It's
> >pretty great, and I think I could fit two on my desk. Then again, that
30"
> >dell or an Apple 30" would be quite nice.
> >
> >"DC" <DC@spammersinhell.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >>>I know.......I'm almost embarrased......... Don.....I'm gonna need to
> loan
> >>>you a Matrox G450 AGP and two G450 PCI cards so you can run six
monitors
> >>and
> >>>achieve some wretched excess. You'rte wayyyyyy too strack
> >>>here.........oops.........do I see a Mac?????
> >>
> >>
> >>A MAC?? WHERE?? OMG, how did THAT get in here....
> >>
> >>Shhh, there's another one on the table top. I think they're
> >>reproducing...
> >>
> >>
> >>I hate the single nonitor, but the solution if probably going to be
> >>one BEEG monitor rather than 2.
> >>
> >>DC
> >
>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>Letsee........I'd start with some super glue, a section of PVC pipe and
an
>old radiator core.......you will also need a crescent wrench....
Crescent wrenches are for PC's. Macs use a vise-grip and
J-B Weld...
DCGod Bless SSC and his Family.
Lo siento mucho...
El Miguel
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:445e64d0@linux...
> Dedric,
>
> I didn't know him or his family personally. This info was forwarded to me
by
> a friend of his whom I met here on this NG, but who no longer posts here.
> From other folks I've met who knew him, I have been told that his name was
> Steven Marshall (as in Marshall Time Modulator-ring a bell?) and that the
> name Stephen St. Croix was a pen name..
>
> Regards,
>
> Deej
>
> "Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message
> news:C083BDF0.904%dterry@keyofd.net...
> > But the SSC we know is spelled Stephen. There is another SS
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| Re: Well........looks like between me and Matrox, we managed to kill a computer [message #67265 is a reply to message #67262] |
Sun, 23 April 2006 17:18 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
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r stereo comp across the Global bus of whichever system
>> >(master or slave) has the drum tracks and route the outputs of the system
>> >running the drum tracks to a pair of inputs on the system playing back
>the
>> >rest of the tracks..........basically you are timeline syncing two
>separate
>> >Paris systems via smpte stripe and using the global bus of one of the
>> >systems as a drum bus only, sending the compressed bus to the other Paris
>> >DAW.
>> >
>> >4. Is the way I do it and it involves routing Paris tracks through a
>digital
>> >matrix, looping it through busses on a separate DAW to a 2 bus comp,
then
>> >returning the 2 bus to Paris and it is so much digital insanity and $$$
>> that
>> >you may not want to go there, but it is very flexible and really works
>well
>> >if you've got a very powerful native system.
>> >
>> >5. The last one is to strap an analog comp across one of the paris aux
>> >busses and crank the aux send to taste, blending the compressed signal
in
>> >with the uncompressed tracks........there's a 1.5ms latency doing this
>with
>> >an analog comp, only 2 samples or so doing it digitally. I do this a
lot
>> and
>> >it works very well.
>> >
>> >
>> >I think our resident guru Dimitrios probably has other esoteric options
>> for
>> >this using a palette of chainers, FX and wrappers, but I'm not sure.
>> >
>> >;o)
>> >.
>> >
>> >"CJG" <cj@grimmark.com> wrote in message news:4463d83e$1@linux...
>> >>
>> >> Hi Folks!
>> >> I wonder how You would compress a group, of say 12 drum tracks, in
>PARIS?
>> >> I would want the whole kit to go through a stereo compressor during
mix
>> >>
>> >> Please. say something clever! :)
>> >> All the best
>> >> CJG
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>Got 3 gig of ram installed in the Cubase/vsti comp as per DJ's advice for
Ivory (that's the most my mobo will take). All I can say is WOW! The Steiny
with all the voices is the ticket. No glitches whatsoever. Thanks Deej!
Rod"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>That happens again and you should hit the windows key and see where it comes
>up at :)
That was going to be my suggestion...
>
>AA
>
>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>news:4463f9d8$1@linux...
>> Yeah!!! It's back.
>>
>> ;o)
>>
>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>> news:4463f95a@linux...
>>> Tried it..........didn't work. I just booted into Safe Mode and it showed
>>> up. Now I'm rebooting again and hopefully it will show up again.
>>>
>>> ;O}
>>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:4463f386$1@linux...
>>> >
>>> > position your cursor at the bottom of the screen, click on the very
>>> > edge
>>> of
>>> > the screen & drag upwards... it should expand.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>> > >I just had to swap monitors on a machine running Win 95. I had been
>> using
>>> > a
>>> > >17" Samsung LCD. I switched to an old E-systems 15" CRT. The taskbar
>>> > >at
>>> > the
>>> > >bottom has disappeared. The computer l,oaded the proper driver for
the
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