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Totally OT - Interpretive Juggling - Awesome [message #65552] Sun, 19 March 2006 13:22 Go to next message
Don Nafe is currently offline  Don Nafe   UNITED STATES
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the sound
>>>> libraries? Realistically I'd like about 20 drum sets stored in the box
>>>> using exactly the drum samples I supply. Of course
Re: Totally OT - Interpretive Juggling - Awesome [message #65554 is a reply to message #65552] Sun, 19 March 2006 14:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Don Nafe is currently offline  Don Nafe   UNITED STATES
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us other useful extra features, at about the same price point.
>>>>> Doesn't look as well built, though.
>>>>>
>>>>> A DDrum5 is said to be under development but who knows if or when we'll
>>>>> see it.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Roland TD20 is an improvement over their previous efforts but
>>>>> overpriced.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Trap Kat always seemed like a cool unit to me. Compact. But I like
>>>>> my DDrum kit's layout. I ditched the rack and have
Re: Totally OT - Interpretive Juggling - Awesome [message #65558 is a reply to message #65554] Sun, 19 March 2006 17:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
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d set pan/volume positions
> easily. I played a roland at guitar center and thought the sounds were
> hip hop oriented and sucked for rock/jazz.
>
> And do any of them have a highhat that works right?
>
> Thanks !!
>
> Jamie K wrote:
>>
>> For electronic drums: My DDrum 4 kit has taken a serious beating for
>> years without complaints or failure. I have the cast precision pads
>> which they don't make anymore but you can find that version of the kit
>> used on ebay. I've replaced the heads with long lasting mesh heads
>> which I prefer to the standard drum heads, but you can use either with
>> those pads. This setup offers positional sensing.
>>
>> For live I use the internal sounds which are reasonably responsive and
>> convincing. It was the most convincing electronic set at the time I
>> chose it. Still one of the best. I recently got a DW/Pacific Chameleon
>> kit (mesh on one side, regular head on the other) to try with DDrum
>> triggers. Can use it as an acoustic kit or as a trigger kit.
>>
>> For recording I sometimes use DDrum samples but more often trigger
>> Native Intruments' Battery 2 via MIDI to control bigger sample sets
>> (you can also sample your own sounds for Battery 2). I also use
>> additional pads through an Alesis D4 so I can trigger my 6 tom, 7
>> cymbal, plus a few specials, mondo kit. I built my own extra pads out
>> of Remo practice pads, old mouse pads and piezo pickups, they've been
>> surprisingly long lived.
>>
>> If I were buying a new electronic kit I'd give serious thought to the
>> Yamaha DTXtremeIIS since it has more trigger inputs than the DDrum4,
>> plus other useful extra features, at about the same price point.
>> Doesn't look as well built, though.
>>
>> A DDrum5 is said to be under development but who knows if or when
>> we'll see it.
>>
>> The Roland TD20 is an improvement over their previous efforts but
>> overpriced.
>>
>> The Trap Kat always seemed like a cool unit to me. Compact. But I like
>> my DDrum kit's layout. I ditched the rack and have it mounted on
>> standard hardware, plays like a regular kit.
>>
>> Another option: You could build your own pads or throw triggers onto
>> an acoustic kit; use whatever you want to get trigger-to-MIDI (it
>> wouldn't have to sound good internally, an old Alesis or Roland, or
>> maybe someone has done it in software); and then use Battery 2, a
>> general purpose sampler or one of the preset drum romplers like BFD
>> for your actual sound library.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>> John wrote:
>>> I have a Trap Kat drum electronic drum set and think it's time to get
>>> a new set. This one has 24 pads which allows for a great variety of
>>> drum sounds but it has no windows program to configure the midi parts
>>> of it and I have to use an external sound module (my motif keyboard)
>>> for the sounds. To make matters worse, the sensors fail every 2
>>> years. I've had it for 7 years. So every 2 years they want $200 for
>>> a new film pad.
>>>
>>> So...........
>>>
>>> Is there an electronic drum set with lots of pads that is reliable?
>>> Is there a windows midi interface program for it?
>>>
>>> Ideally I want to have a couple thousand drum sounds in a library and
>>> be able to EASILY build drum sets based on them, then easily switch
Re: Totally OT - Interpretive Juggling - Awesome [message #65559 is a reply to message #65554] Mon, 20 March 2006 01:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kim is currently offline  Kim
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>>> drum sets. I want to be able to easily configure the pan/volumes of
>>> each drum in the set through a windows midi app. Can this be done?
>>> Easily? This is 2006 for crying out loud.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>> John"Babu" <musiclab@lund.bonet.se> wrote:


>Yeah, youīre quite right. Bad choice of words from my side.

And from mine as well.

Best wishes

DC"Babu" <musiclab@lund.bonet.se> wrote:

>I love the pre. Itīs so transparent, but still not sterile. Itīs not a replacement
>for API for pop/rock though. Lots of clean gain for q
Re: Totally OT - Interpretive Juggling - Awesome [message #65563 is a reply to message #65559] Mon, 20 March 2006 06:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cujo is currently offline  cujo
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und robin groups to, for example, alternate
> left and right hit sample sets as you play. You can combine cells for
> multi-micing, so you have a cell for top snare, one for bottom snare,
> one for OH snare, etc., all assigned to the same MIDI note to trigger
> together.
>
> You can save and load cells. You can save and load entire kits. Make as
> many as you want. It does take a few seconds to load a big kit off the HD.
>
> B2 can load any .wav sample, maybe some other formats. It comes with a
> multi-miced kit and some other kits. You can add your own samples,
> either purchased sample sets or drums recorded by you.
>
> It is limited only by hard drive space and some reasonable minimum
> amount of RAM.
>
> So yes, right now I think Battery 2 comes the closest to doing what you
> are asking. It's the closest I've seen to what I want in a DDrum 5. It
> also has some other tricks like built-in compression and EQ on a per
> cell basis, and the ability to modulate things (wav delay by velocity,
> for example, to cut off the initial attack on
Re: Totally OT - Interpretive Juggling - Awesome [message #65579 is a reply to message #65552] Mon, 20 March 2006 23:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deej [1] is currently offline  Deej [1]   UNITED STATES
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;>>
>>>> A DDrum5 is said to be under development but who knows if or when we'll
>>>> see it.
>>>>
>>>> The Roland TD20 is an improvement over their previous efforts but
>>>> overpriced.
>>>>
>>>> The Trap Kat always seemed like a cool unit to me. Compact. But I like
>>>> my DDrum kit's layout. I ditched the rack and have it mounted on
>>>>
Re: Totally OT - Interpretive Juggling - Awesome [message #65623 is a reply to message #65552] Wed, 22 March 2006 09:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jef knight[1] is currently offline  jef knight[1]   CANADA
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compressor 1176LN you can put it to severe
compressing
> >>
> >>>> where
> >>>> then you have a volume to bus it on OUTPUT.
> >>>> Then if you try an eq you are eq"ing the dry signal and not the
compressed
> >>>> !, and then you have also a separate volume for the eq'ed vox, then
Re: Totally OT - Interpretive Juggling - Awesome [message #65762 is a reply to message #65563] Sun, 26 March 2006 11:57 Go to previous message
Miguel Vigil [1] is currently offline  Miguel Vigil [1]   UNITED STATES
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