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Thu, 19 January 2006 11:43

Tony Benson

Messages: 453
Registered: June 2006

Senior Member

ything to Paris, then rendering the tracks at 00:00:00:00,
then batch processing them in Wavelab as .wav's and importing them to a
Cubase Sx mix template. I do patch my Multiface into Paris digitally when
tracking sometimes, but I mostly use it's AD/DA's as insert sends and
returns while mixing. Having that auto compensation in SX is a dream come
true.

Deej

Deej

"Neil" <OIOI@err.com> wrote in message news:43feaa8e$1@linux...
>
> Interesting... so the key in this case must be bringing it out
> of SX before summing, because, and I can guarantee this, 32-
> bit float-point or not, that if you hammer those channels in SX
> and then try to sum it in the same app, you're going to get
> real ugly, real fast (we're talking clip city, my bro-man.. I
> hate to say it, but it's true anyway... it's pure digital, what
> do we expect, right?).
>
> So, are you taking the SX channels out individually, or are
> you taking them out through an SX bus feed? I assume either way
> you're going through your Multiface and then into Paris, right?
>
> I think this is a pretty relevant question for this group, since
> it seems to have become more of a sort of:
> " FormerOrPerhapsStillPartiallyParisUsersWhoHaveSinceMigratedT oCubaseSX "
> group, as opposed to a strict: "ParisUsersGroup"
>
> Neil
>
>
>
>
> "

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Re: Just got this email from Toontrack [message #63411 is a reply to message #63408]

Thu, 19 January 2006 12:01

Messages: 51
Registered: December 2005

Member

e lottery and pay you to come over and set up a
> system for me. ;o)
>
> If you can get above 0db signals out of Cubase into Paris... well for
starters
> I would have thought Paris could only input 24 bit integers... but if
you
> can get louder than 0db into the channels of Paris, that in itself opens
> up new possibilities because a normal Paris track overdrives at 0db. If
you
> can go louder than 0db then Paris gain staging is going to reach a whole
> new level.

I can clip Paris with a signal from Cubase SX if I don't attenuate it with
the Paris fader. this may have something to do with Live Mix mode in Paris.
I don't know, but I can receive this hot signal with the Paris channels set
to post fader and it seems to be attenuating the *hotter than 0 dBfs signal.
I know it doesn't make any sense. Maybe I'm just missing something, but
there is a big red clip light on the transport of Cubase SX and it should be
making all kinds of racket.............but it's not.

Here's an rough example of what I'm getting. The LF is a little hot on this
one. I've tamed it a bit in the remix, but it's a good example of what I'm
talking about. Cubase SX clip meter is bright red. Peak levels in Paris
were -1.875dB because I the Paris channel faders, attenuated the submix and
Globl faders and strapped NoLimit on the Global bus. After the bounce, I
just boosted it by 1.8dB inWavelab.......that it.

http://www.mercysakes.com/paris/Doug%20Joyce/Road%20To%20Par adise/paradise%2
02-6-06.mp3

I know it doesn't make any sense so maybe I'm thinking I'm doing something
that's not really happening..........

>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >OK,
> >
> >this is getting to be one of my favorite tricks:
>

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Re: Just got this email from Toontrack [message #63415 is a reply to message #63411]

Thu, 19 January 2006 12:25

Tony Benson

Messages: 453
Registered: June 2006

Senior Member

8po3gfb5rsa64liu@4ax.com..." target="_blank">e947v1dhoqpshfo5f58po3gfb5rsa64liu@4ax.com...
>> >>
>> >>>i almost hate to say this but i have to buy another mac for DP, Logic
>> >>>and PT.
>> >>>
>> >>>On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 07:51:34 -0500, John <no@no.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>rick, you going to:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>1. cubase
>> >>>>2. nuendo
>> >>>>3. atari falcon
>> >>>>http://www.atarimuseum.com/computers/16bits/falcon030.html
>> >>>>
>> >>>>rick wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>I'll be posting up my paris stuff but need to know the going rates
>for
>> >>>>>the cards.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>4 those interested there are...
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>4 eds cards
>> >>>>>3 mecs 2 black and 1 blue
>> >>>>>3 c-16's
>> >>>>>3 input cards analog
>> >>>>>4 output cards analog
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>Ick... I'd rather have Bose!! ;-) Mackie is NOT what it once was...

David.

DJ wrote:
> I heard them recently at a songwriters expo. Get a Mackie PA. You'll be
> doing yourself and your audience a favor.
>
> "Kent" <kent510745@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43fe177a@linux...
>
>>Going to be doing a 1 man show here pretty quick, and the PAS looks made
>
> for
>
>>that kind of thing. Anybody have any experience with it?
>>
>>Kent
>>
>>
>
>
>That's just friggin cool. I wanna see Paris run on it.

"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>http://mrl.nyu.edu/~jhan/ftirtouch/
>
>Hmmm..........well, the last live gig we did was through those Mackie

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Re: Just got this email from Toontrack [message #63416 is a reply to message #63411]

Thu, 19 January 2006 12:57

Tony Benson

Messages: 453
Registered: June 2006

Senior Member

powered PA speakers. Sounded pretty good. That was about 3 years ago.

"EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message news:43ff3c34$1@linux...
> Ick... I'd rather have Bose!! ;-) Mackie is NOT what it once was...
>
> David.
>
> DJ wrote:
> > I heard them recently at a songwriters expo. Get a Mackie PA. You'll be
> > doing yourself and your audience a favor.
> >
> > "Kent" <kent510745@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43fe177a@linux...
> >
> >>Going to be doing a 1 man show here pretty quick, and the PAS looks made
> >
> > for
> >
> >>that kind of thing. Anybody have any experience with it?
> >>
> >>Kent
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >Me too.I'd like to have 4 x LCD's mounted in a desk, face up at an angle
approximating the angle of a mixing board.

"Paul" <pn@nospam.com> wrote in message news:43ff3c9e$1@linux...
>
> That's just friggin cool. I wanna see Paris run on it.
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >http://mrl.nyu.edu/~jhan/ftirtouch/
> >
> >
>Thanks Gene,

I've got all the remaining songs in this project set up to mix 1:1 from
Cubase to Paris. I've got another mix in the wings after this one is done
and my producer just got back into town with 3 more projects to start (one
of them is a DVD project so I'm going to be tracking/mixing at 96k). I'm
probably going to be experimenting with some stem mixes to see what I can
achieve there.

Deej

"gene lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:43ff1d1c$1@linux...
>
> Great sound.
> Great players.
> Very nice!
> And yes. I also seem to have gain levels not theoretically possible when
> using a dual-DAW setup.
>
> "DJ" <

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Re: Just got this email from Toontrack [message #63551 is a reply to message #63415]

Sat, 21 January 2006 18:17

Aaron Allen

Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008

Senior Member

ieve this is an XP=20
thing at >> >>>all, rather a Paris issue. =
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ability to sync at all was something >> >>>that =
XP beta=20
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shaky to >> >>>begin with IMO. It is good to =
know=20
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the >>>adat card=20
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=
dude! >>> >>>AA >>> >>><B=
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Yes, adat 9 pin sync works in XP just fine, as long as you aren't=20
 >>>> hooking >>>> it up to an ACTUAL =
ADAT. Go=20
figure. >>>> As far as SMPTE goes, I havn't tried that =
since I=20
got the RME, but when >> I >>>> had the =
Dakota, the=20
setting was in there (SMPTE in, then converted to >>=20
MTC >>>> that cubase could read)you might check that =
out=20
also. >>>> Rod >>>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
=
wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>&gt=
;>Rod, >>>>>So=20
I can do either?  Once the RME card is installed=20
I'll >>>>>have the option of ADAT sync but I wasn't =
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have been using SMPTE all along with my Amiga so=20
the >>>>>SMPTE stripe lives in my default =
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haven't seen >>>>>how to implement that into Cubase =
in their=20
manual though. >>>>>Any tips on setting that =
up?  I=20
heard something about a >>>>>SMPTE plugin for =
Cubase????=20
=3D20 >>>>> >>>>>That may have =
been a=20
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Re: Just got this email from Toontrack [message #63553 is a reply to message #63551]

Sat, 21 January 2006 22:02

Neil
Messages: 1645
Registered: April 2006

Senior Member

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Mac parade: "Rah rah, yea for Mac, Macs are great!
Hooray for Macs!.

Mac fans are loud...

Just how I saw it.
Tom
"uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message =
news:4403a3ff$1@linux...
What precisely is that supposed to mean?!

Jimmy

"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:4402580a@linux...
Was there a parade?
Tom
"uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message =
news:4402563f@linux...
Yep. It's got to be physical separation of computer from critical =
space.

Jimmy

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Re: Just got this email from Toontrack [message #63584 is a reply to message #63553]

Sun, 22 January 2006 09:39

Aaron Allen

Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008

Senior Member

> > > connections from the Motu 8x8 and STILL USB-MIDI
> data was being
> > > > seen.
> > > > > Cubase wasn't open. I
> have not been beaten.
> > > > >
> > > > > I decided to try my original concept of using
> this Motu 8x8
> > > > > as a stand alone and program a few presets,
> disconnect
> > > > > the USB, reinstall my Fastlane 2x2 and hook it up the
> > > > > old fashioned way. Midi in/out of Cubase through
> > > > > Fastlane to one input/output of Motu 8x8 then routed
> > > > > to all ins/outs of hardware synths. Piece of
> cake so I thought.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now to dig up the drivers for the FastLane
> again... I loaded what
> > > > > I thought were the right ones but they weren't.
> They were for
> > > > the com port.
> > > > > Okay, so I download the newest ones from Motu's
> site. I bring
> > > > > them into the computer to realize minus
> Clockworks they are
> > > > > the exact same drivers that were already in there
> for the 8x8. Well
> > > > > the 8x8 wasn't working flawlessly so I thought
> I'd 'remove'
> > > > > then 'reinstall' them just to be safe. After the
> reinstall, the
> > > > > directions are to plug in the device (USB cable)
> and Windows should
> > > > > recognize the new hardware. The only thing that
> was recognized
> > > > was the
> > > > > smell of burning components. I quickly shut down
> two computers to
> > > > > find out that the green FastLane smoked!
> > > > > This is the final straw.
> > > > >
> > > > > Drivers from Motu are flakey as hell.
> > > > > I swear they sent a higher than normal voltage
> down the USB
> > > > > line somehow.
> > > > >
> > > > > I now need a new small in/out box (2x2) and a
> stand alone 8x8
> > > > > that works and merges without Fn drivers.
> > > > > What is there?
> > > > >
> > > > > The "sick of it all" guy,
> > > > > Tom
> > > > >
> > > > > PS Midi is still cool. Motu is not.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Chris Ludwig
> > > > ADK
> > > > chrisl@adkproaudio.com
> <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com> <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
> > > > <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
> > > > www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com>
> <http://www.adkproaudio.com>
> > > > <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
> > > > (859) 635-5762
> > >
> > > --
> > > Chris Ludwig
> > > ADK
> > > chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
> <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
> > > www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com>
> <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
> > > (859) 635-5762
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So I'm not the only one! Back it goes. I'm going for the M-Audio 8x8.
Thanks for confirming my tests Jef.
Tom

"jef knight" <thestudio@allknightmusic.com> wr

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Re: Just got this email from Toontrack [message #63593 is a reply to message #63584]

Sun, 22 January 2006 13:39

Rod Lincoln
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26 Feb=20
2006 17:02:13 -0500, "Tom Bruhl" >     =
<<A=20
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> >    =20
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>  M-Audio is first on the list of two=20
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> >    =20
>  Thanks you guys. >     >  =

Tom >     =
> >    =20
> >     >    "rick" =
<<A=20
href=3D"mailto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A> <<A =

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> >     >    On Sun, 26 =
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; >    =20
>    wrote: >    =20
> >     >    >I'm =
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> >     >    =
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