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A FYI regarding my Paris troubles and resolutions. [message #93355] Wed, 05 December 2007 20:12 Go to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1368
Registered: June 2007
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ote:
>> Hey Chris.
>> Doh. I was never real good at reading directions. I'll have to install
a
>> rubber band on my wrist when I do the build and snap it every so often.
As
>> I didn't factor the vid card into the budget I have to go with something
>> alittle less expensive. I'm looking the Chaintech GSV73LE, the Gigabyte
>> GV-RX24T256, and the quiet inexpensive (but generally well reviewed) Asus
>> EN6200LE. No games on the computer only the "daw game" Reaper. I think
these
>> cards are ok??
>> MR
>>
>>
>>
>> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>
>>> HI Mike,
>>>
>>>
>>> Mike R wrote:
>>>
>>>> Chris,
>>>> Thank you for responding. ALL of the feedback will be very helpful.

>>>>
>> I really
>>
>>>> appreciate your expertise. Regarding the ram, I'd rather go with Crucial,
>>>> but the Kingston was the only stick I could find that was close to what
>>>>
>> Gigabyte
>>
>>>> recommended. Is it critical to only get the sticks on their list, or
>>>>
>> can
>>
>>>> I change it up?
>>>>
>>> Yes Crucial will be a good choice. Being on the list is not very
>>> important on the Gigabyte board unless you plaining on some extreme
>>> tweaking for gaming.
>>>
>>>
>>>> I also thought about getting a vid card, but, for the moment,
>>>>
>>>>
>>> What are you using for video then? There is no on board video and no
AGP
>>>
>>
>>
>>> port.
>>>
>>>
>>>> I'm going to hold off -budget issues.
>>>> Once again Chris, thanks.
>>>> MR
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> HI Mike,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike R wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok, finally, after some months of thought, and saving, I'm ready to
>>>>>>
>> buy
>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> into
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> a new system. Keeping Paris, but I wanted to give Reaper a go. Currently
>>>>>> I'm running two computers to work stuff up, and I'd like to try out
>>>>>>
>> a
>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> "total"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> ITB solution. Here's the parts list:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775
Quad-Core
>>>>>> Processor - Retail
>>>>>> 279.99 (includes fan and heat sink)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Awesome. Oh and it can be over clocked but I'd get a 3rd party heat
sink
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> if you wanna try that.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you are looking to make the machine quiet then I'd highly recommend
>>>>>
>>
>>
>>>>> the Noctua NH-U12P CPU heat sink whether or not you are over clocking.
>>>>> Also their Case fans are the best ones on the market.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> COOLER MASTER eXtreme RP-500-PCAR ATX from factor 12V V2.01 500W Power
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> Supply
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> - Retail
>>>>>> Item #: N82E16817171018 (will I need more power?)
>>>>>> 39.99
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> If you plain on filling up the hard drives and PCI/PCI-e slots then
I'd
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> yes you will be a bit more juice. You can get quiet power supplies
in
>>>>>
>>
>>
>>>>> the 650w and 750w range.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd recommend one some of the Thermaltake, Corsair, Antec models with
>>>>>
>>
>>
>>>>> cable management.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3L LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Supports: Intel Core™ 2 Quad Q6600 2.40HGz 8MB Kentsfield 65nm G0
95W
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> 1066
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> F2
>>>>>> 89.99
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Good board choice. We use the the big brother of that board the GIGABYTE
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> GA-P35-DS4 Rev. 2.0.
>>>>> Do you require Firewire. The DS3L does not have it.
>>>>> If you do and you don't want to use a PCI PCI-e slot to do then I'd

>>>>> recommend the board we are using. It uses TI firewire and works quite
>>>>>
>> good.
>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3160815AS 160GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s
Hard
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> Drive
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> - OEM
>>>>>> 52.99
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> excellent drive
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Kingston 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)
>>>>>> Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model KVR800D2K2/2GR - Retail
>>>>>> 46.99
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I'd go for OCZ, Super Talent, Corsair, Crucial brands personally. Get
>>>>>
>>
>>
>>>>> ones that CL4 at least. This will give a little better performance
for
>>>>>
>>
>>
>>>>> VSTi and low latency audio.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm, currently, shopping at Newegg. The prices seem competitive.
I've
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> checked
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> the mobo for ram and processor compatibility. The Kingston memory
is
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> not
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> an exact match. I'm looking at: KVR800D2K2/2GR and Gigabyte recommends:
>>>>>> KVR800D2N5/1G. Do you think this is OK?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> New Egg has decent prices and very good over all support for a large
>>>>>
>>
>>
>>>>> online part company so I would say you should be
Re: A FYI regarding my Paris troubles and resolutions. [message #93358 is a reply to message #93355] Wed, 05 December 2007 22:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DJ is currently offline  DJ   FRANCE
Messages: 1124
Registered: July 2005
Senior Member
t;>>>
>>>>>
>>>> What are you using for video then? There is no on board video and no
> AGP
>>>>
>>>
>>>> port.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I'm going to hold off -budget issues.
>>>>> Once again Chris, thanks.
>>>>> MR
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> HI Mike,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike R wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ok, finally, after some months of thought, and saving, I'm ready to
>>>>>>>
>>> buy
>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> into
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> a new system. Keeping Paris, but I wanted to give Reaper a go. Currently
>>>>>>> I'm running two computers to work stuff up, and I'd like to try out
>>>>>>>
>>> a
>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> "total"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> ITB solution. Here's the parts list:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775
> Quad-Core
>>>>>>> Processor - Retail
>>>>>>> 279.99 (includes fan and heat sink)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Awesome. Oh and it can be over clocked but I'd get a 3rd party heat
> sink
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> if you wanna try that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you are looking to make the machine quiet then I'd highly recommend
>>>>>>
>>>
>>>>>> the Noctua NH-U12P CPU heat sink whether or not you are over clocking.
>>>>>> Also their Case fans are the best ones on the market.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> COOLER MASTER eXtreme RP-500-PCAR ATX from factor 12V V2.01 500W Power
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> Supply
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Retail
>>>>>>> Item #: N82E16817171018 (will I need more power?)
>>>>>>> 39.99
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you plain on filling up the hard drives and PCI/PCI-e slots then
> I'd
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> yes you will be a bit more juice. You can get quiet power supplies
> in
>>>>>>
>>>
>>>>>> the 650w and 750w range.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd recommend one some of the Thermaltake, Corsair, Antec models with
>>>>>>
>>>
>>>>>> cable management.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3L LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Supports: Intel Core™ 2 Quad Q6600 2.40HGz 8MB Kentsfield 65nm G0
> 95W
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> 1066
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> F2
>>>>>>> 89.99
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good board choice. We use the the big brother of that board the GIGABYTE
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> GA-P35-DS4 Rev. 2.0.
>>>>>> Do you require Firewire. The DS3L does not have it.
>>>>>> If you do and you don't want to use a PCI PCI-e slot to do then I'd
>
>>>>>> recommend the board we are using. It uses TI firewire and works quite
>>>>>>
>>> good.
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3160815AS 160GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s
> Hard
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> Drive
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> - OEM
>>>>>>> 52.99
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> excellent drive
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kingston 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)
>>>>>>> Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model KVR800D2K2/2GR - Retail
>>>>>>> 46.99
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd go for OCZ, Super Talent, Corsair, Crucial brands personally. Get
>>>>>>
>>>
>>>>>> ones that CL4 at least. This will give a little better performance
> for
>>>>>>
>>>
>>>>>> VSTi and low latency audio.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm, currently, shopping at Newegg. The prices seem competitive.
> I've
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> checked
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> the mobo for ram and processor compatibility. The Kingston memory
> is
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> not
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> an exact match. I'm looking at: KVR800D2K2/2GR and Gigabyte recommends:
>>>>>>> KVR800D2N5/1G. Do you think this is OK?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> New Egg has decent prices and very good over all support for a large
>>>>>>
>>>
>>>>>> online part company so I would say you should be fine ordering from
> them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm probably not going with the Cooler Master psu, but does will 500W
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> be
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> enough? I'm planning on running two more hd's (audio and backup drives)
>>>>>>> and one DVD rom player in the box.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> You don't mention the Case or the video card. Your old video card WILL
>>>>>>
>>>
>>>>>> NOT work. If you are reusing an old case make sure it is a mid-sized
>>>>>>
>>> or
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> full sized ATX.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also current motherboards only have 1 IDE port. So only 2 IDE devices
>>>>>>
>>>
>>>>>> can be attached.. You will be using one of these for your DVD/CD drive.
>>>>>> Your audio. Samples drive will need to be SATA. IF you need to buy
> new
>>>>>>
>>>
>>>>>> ones then the Seagate 16meg and 32 meg cache drives will be great choices.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd recommend these fanless dual head video cards.
>>>>>> GIGABYTE GV-NX86T256H GeForce 8600GT 256MB
>>>>>> XFX PVT86JUAHG GeForce 8500GT 256MB
>>>>>> EVGA 256-P2-N749-LR GeForce 8500GT 256MB
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks amigos
>>>>>>> MR
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Chris Ludwig
>>>>>> ADK
>>>>>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>>>>> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>>>>> (859) 635-5762
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Chris Ludwig
>>>> ADK
>>>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>>> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>>> (859) 635-5762
>>>>
>>>
>> --
>> Chris Ludwig
>> ADK
>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>> www.adkproaudio.com <

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Re: A FYI regarding my Paris troubles and resolutions. [message #93393 is a reply to message #93355] Thu, 06 December 2007 22:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jon Jiles is currently offline  Jon Jiles
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