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| Re: OT: Politically Correct (Astute?) Comments from Jobs on DRM [message #79654 is a reply to message #79607] |
Wed, 07 February 2007 14:08   |
Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005
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t;have
>>>>>>>you heard of Apple having people prosecuted?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Yep, it's Apple that is evil, and it's Steve Jobs that is the bad
>>>>>>>guy.
>>>>>
>>>>>>It's
>>>>>>>Jobs that wants to take your freedoms away, not Gates and his Pay to
>>>Play
>>>>>>>model.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Get a clue!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Well, my main take on it is that I don't care, I simply will not buy
>>>>things
>>>>>>>>in a format that treats me like I'm a criminal. My secondary take
> on
>>>>it
>>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>>that Esteban Jobs is wicked smart and managed to brow beat the
>>>>>>>>record
>>>>>labels
>>>>>>>>into using his store precisely because of the DRM it had. Now that
>>he's
>>>>>>>cornered
>>>>>>>>the market he's campaigning for the removal of the DRM because,
>>>>>>>>surprise,
>>>>>>>>customers don't like it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I'm also quite sure that some day in the not too distant future when
>>>>you
>>>>>>>>buy a car you'll have to sign and EULA that says, 'This 'motor
>>>>>>>>vehicle'
>>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>>licensed, not sold, to you . . .'
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>BTW I'm putting my money where my mouth is on this one. I'm trying
>>to
>>>>>convince
>>>>>>>>the Mold Monkies to release our upcoming second CD as both .ogg and
>>>flac
>>>>>>>>files into the file sharing universe. I'm hoping to include a note
>>pointing
>>>>>>>>people to our web site and saying only that if they like our music
>>it
>>>>>wou
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| Re: OT: Politically Correct (Astute?) Comments from Jobs on DRM [message #79655 is a reply to message #79642] |
Wed, 07 February 2007 14:13 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
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ld
>>>>>>>>be really cool if they would buy a sticker or a T-Shirt or pick up
>>my
>>>>>bar
>>>>>>>>tab some night. I haven't completely convinced the guys, I don't
>>>>>>>>write
>>>>>>songs
>>>>>>>>for this band so it's their copyright not mine, but I'm getting
>>>>>>>>closer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>TCB
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Ted Gerber" <tedgerber@rogers.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Thad-
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>What's your take on the idea that DRM is being foisted on all
>>>>>>>>>online
>>>>>stores
>>>>>>>>>by the
>>>>>>>>>respective rights holders/publishers?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>FLAC is very good. If anyone's on Mac, Amadeus will play FLAC
>>>>>>>>>files...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Ted
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Other than the DRM and the fact that you're locked into their
>>>>>>>>>>hardware,
>>>>>>>>>it's
>>>>>>>>>>not bad. Which is kind of like the famous, 'Other than, Mrs.
>>>>>>>>>>Lincoln,
>>>>>>>how
>>>>>>>>>>was the show?'
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>For higher quality audio, check out FLAC.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>TCB
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>OK, so I'm an (admittedly) old curmudgeon and only listen to
>>>>>>>>>>>compressed
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>audio files when I absolutely have to and I especially go out of
>>>my
>>>>>>way
>>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>avoid having anything to do with Mac related stuff as a matter
> of
>>>>principle,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>but Amy likes Apple and so I loaded ITunes on her new PC and I've
>>>>been
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>playing around with it. Yeah, I know.........I'm only 5 years
>>>>>>>>>>>behind
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>everyone else here, but anyway, all I can say is that I *really*
>>>like
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>ITunes. I can't find anything I don't like about it. If I were
> going
>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>design something like this, I couldn't do it any better (now hows
>>>>that
>>>>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>egotism?).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>;o)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>
>>The $1 salary is a publicity stunt. He has options worth well over half
>a
>>billion.
>>
>>http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=1590
>>
>>TCB
>
>I don't believe he has exercised his options yet. The company also bought
>a 45 million dollar gulf stream for him to use for business. He doesn't
>own the jet the company does. What did Gates and Balmer make last year?
I don't know and it has no more to do with the question than how much I made
last year. As the CEO of a publicly traded company it's his _job_ to do everything
legally possible to maximize profits or, in other words, to be greedy. If
he's not being greedy then he's not doing his job. And, from the standpoint
of shareholder value he has been a magnificent success.
TCB
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Good heavens, James, did you read my post? I said I won't buy _any_
>format
>>>>>>that restricts my freedoms. Not MSoft, not Apple, not anyone. Trust
>me,
>>>>
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| Re: OT: Politically Correct (Astute?) Comments from Jobs on DRM [message #79695 is a reply to message #79658] |
Thu, 08 February 2007 10:02 |
Neil
Messages: 1645
Registered: April 2006
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k at how many people the
>>>>>>>>record
>>>>>>companies
>>>>>>>>and the RIAA have sued! They have their lobby group the RIAA which
>>>is
>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>gang of thug lawyers that pushes everybody around. Impoverished
kids
>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>single moms! They don't care, pay up or else! Slime!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>MS, look at the things they've done. They have stolen from Apple,
>> netscape,
>>>>>>>>Sun, the list goes on, and the list is long. Look at how much they
>>>>have
>>>>>>>>taken. They steal, then they turn around and prosecute people that
>>>copy
>>>>>>>>their software, when much of it was stolen by them. How many times
>>>have
>>>>>>>>you heard of Apple having people prosecuted?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Yep, it's Apple that is evil, and it's Steve Jobs that is the bad
>>>>>>>>guy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>It's
>>>>>>>>Jobs that wants to take your freedoms away, not Gates and his Pay
to
>>>>Play
>>>>>>>>model.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Get a clue!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Well, my main take on it is that I don't care, I simply will not
buy
>>>>>things
>>>>>>>>>in a format that treats me like I'm a criminal. My secondary take
>> on
>>>>>it
>>>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>>>that Esteban Jobs is wicked smart and managed to brow beat the
>>>>>>>>>record
>>>>>>labels
>>>>>>>>>into using his store precisely because of the DRM it had. Now that
>>>he's
>>>>>>>>cornered
>>>>>>>>>the market he's campaigning for the removal of the DRM because,
>>>>>>>>>surprise,
>>>>>>>>>customers don't like it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I'm also quite sure that some day in the not too distant future
when
>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>buy a car you'll have to sign and EULA that says, 'This 'motor
>>>>>>>>>vehicle'
>>>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>>>licensed, not sold, to you . . .'
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>BTW I'm putting my money where my mouth is on this one. I'm trying
>>>to
>>>>>>convince
>>>>>>>>>the Mold Monkies to release our upcoming second CD as both .ogg
and
>>>>flac
>>>>>>>>>files into the file sharing universe. I'm hoping to include a note
>>>pointing
>>>>>>>>>people to our web site and saying only that if they like our music
>>>it
>>>>>>would
>>>>>>>>>be really cool if they would buy a sticker or a T-Shirt or pick
up
>>>my
>>>>>>bar
>>>>>>>>>tab some night. I haven't completely convinced the guys, I don't
>>>>>>>>>write
>>>>>>>songs
>>>>>>>>>for this band so it's their copyright not mine, but I'm getting
>>>>>>>>>closer.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>TCB
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"Ted Gerber" <tedgerber@rogers.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Thad-
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>What's your take on the idea that DRM is being foisted on all
>>>>>>>>>>online
>>>>>>stores
>>>>>&
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