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| Re: windows 2000 and Paris 3.0 [message #94678 is a reply to message #94675] |
Mon, 14 January 2008 13:12   |
Greg B
Messages: 14
Registered: December 2007
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ple.....funny, I didn't
>> hear a peep out of OBama though.
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>> OK......now I'm of to rape the land.
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>> bye.
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>i believe in do unto others as you would have them do unto you. what
else can be said for human behavior. of course not everyone has that
capability due to thier genetic wiring. just as some people can kill
without remorse others cannot accept certain "truths"; it is that
equal deserving of eternal hell according to some religious sects i
find problematic. after all the vengeful god of the old testament
become the god of love in the new and i'm not really feelin' the love
here according to the words of some. (not spoken here but lets be
honest out in the real world you can't swing a dead cat and not hit
someone who is willing to tell you that hell, hades, sheol is your
final destination.
On 22 Mar 2008 02:42:44 +1000, "DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
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>Rick, there's some good insights here. How God works is not
>always transparent to us.
see, now that's where i think the problem lies. god should know that
we're not going to get the message as he wants us to because we're
human and will translate anything to our own advantage. of all the
things to deserve eternal damnation for (if you believe in it) one
would think that the inability to "get it" would not be one of them.
would you as a parent condemn your child to a never ending life of
torment simply because he or she couldn't understand the totality of
you being "the creator (parent)" of them. you know, it can take only
one gene to make someone either a murderer, saint and everything in
between. so to me a loving, just and forgiving god would have a
better plan then eternal suffering. we on the other hand are more
than willing to threaten and enact all levels of retribution on others
because we think that's what god would do.
>
>What concerns me is the reality of Jesus. From that issue flow all
>others, and whether there is an objective truth here or we are
>free to make it up as we go along.
and whose to say where the "making up"
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| Re: windows 2000 and Paris 3.0 [message #94818 is a reply to message #94675] |
Thu, 17 January 2008 09:44 |
Ed
Messages: 199
Registered: February 2006
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if we could take a time machine
>>back to Jesus tomb on early Sunday morning after his death.
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>>Would we see a bunch of guys stealing a body, or would we
>>see a resurrected Lord and Saviour?
>>
>>None of us is wired so as to not understand the ramifications
>>of either possibility.
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>>DC
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>>rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>i believe in do unto others as you would have them do unto you. what
>>>else can be said for human behavior. of course not everyone has that
>>>capability due to thier genetic wiring. just as some people can kill
>>>without remorse others cannot accept certain "truths"; it is that
>>>equal deserving of eternal hell according to some religious sects i
>>>find problematic. after all the vengeful god of the old testament
>>>become the god of love in the new and i'm not really feelin' the love
>>>here according to the words of some. (not spoken here but lets be
>>>honest out in the real world you can't swing a dead cat and not hit
>>>someone who is willing to tell you that hell, hades, sheol is your
>>>final destination.
>>>
>>>On 22 Mar 2008 02:42:44 +1000, "DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Rick, there's some good insights here. How God works is not
>>>>always transparent to us.
>>>
>>>see, now that's where i think the problem lies. god should know that
>>>we're not going to get the message as he wants us to because we're
>>>human and will translate anything to our own advantage. of all the
>>>things to deserve eternal damnation for (if you believe in it) one
>>>would think that the inability to "get it" would not be one of them.
>>>
>>>would you as a parent condemn your child to a never ending life of
>>>torment simply because he or she couldn't understand the totality of
>>>you being "the creator (parent)" of them. you know, it can take only
>>>one gene to make someone either a murderer, saint and everything in
>>>between. so to me a loving, just and forgiving god would have a
>>>better plan then eternal suffering. we on the other hand are more
>>>than willing to threaten and enact all levels of retribution on others
>>>because we think that's what god would do.
>>>>
>>>>What concerns me is the reality of Jesus. From that issue flow all
>>>>others, and whether there is an objective truth here or we are
>>>>free to make it up as we go along.
>>>and whose to say where the "making up" began. it is in my nature to
>>>question what i see and hear and if i go to hell for it...then oh well
>>>it's who i am, the way i was made.
>>>>
>>>>DC
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>again, i know the story is about language, confusion and other bright
>>>>>ideas men come up with.
>>>>>sorry, but i have a problem with "men" had one language thing. just
>>>>>as i have a problem with god being suprised that adam and eve would
>>>>>partake of the forbidden fruit when told no no no you don't. he's
>>>>>god...for his sakes... guess he also didn't think of incest when
>>>>>populating the earth from just one pair of peeps. i mean cain went
to
>>>>>the land of nod and eventually married...who...i don't
>>>>>know...mom...sis...cousin rita???
>>>>>i believe god was smart enough to create the laws of physics that
>>>>>allow certain things to happen under certain conditions and lets the
>>>>>chips fall where they may. to me god doesn't kill 250 people on a
>>>>>plane and spare one as a lesson of his devine intervention
>>>>>capabilities. he doesn't kill half a town yet spares a church so they
>>>>>have somewhere to mourn the dead.
>>>>>the truely (again to me) sad thing about the differing concepts of god
>>>>>is how their used to validate the harm we do each other.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>On 22 Mar 2008 00:13:36 +1000, "Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>http://ldolphin.org/
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