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| Re: Website Changes... [message #96852 is a reply to message #96832] |
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| Re: Website Changes... [message #96936 is a reply to message #96931] |
Sun, 16 March 2008 22:04 |
John Macy
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;no@no.com> wrote:
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> Chuck is so old, who's afraid of him anymore ?
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> http://www.toadking.com/6x9=42/Chuck%20Norris%20Action%20Fig ure.jpg"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
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>Chuck is so old, who's afraid of him anymore ?
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> http://www.toadking.com/6x9=42/Chuck%20Norris%20Action%20Fig ure.jpg
On the 7th day, God rested.... Chuck Norris took over.Create a template with delay comp plugs on the inserts of every audio track
in your session. As you're working and want to use plug-ins for processing,
insert a UAD-1 plug-in in place of the Delay Comp plug.Those girls look like they are about to puke on one another.
John wrote:
> Chuck is so old, who's afraid of him anymore ?
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> http://www.toadking.com/6x9=42/Chuck%20Norris%20Action%20Fig ure.jpgBill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>Those girls look like they are about to puke on one another.
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>John wrote:
>> Chuck is so old, who's afraid of him anymore ?
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>> http://www.toadking.com/6x9=42/Chuck%20Norris%20Action%20Fig ure.jpg
When Chuck Norris vomits, wealthy people scavenge it for food.GO TO YOUR TIME OUT CHAIR!!!!!!!!!!!
On 19 May 2008 07:05:07 +1000, "Deej" <noway@jose.net> wrote:
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>Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>Those girls look like they are about to puke on one another.
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>>John wrote:
>>> Chuck is so old, who's afraid of him anymore ?
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>>> http://www.toadking.com/6x9=42/Chuck%20Norris%20Action%20Fig ure.jpg
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>When Chuck Norris vomits, wealthy people scavenge it for food.what we need here is a latency plug in for DJ's brain so he has more time
to think these through before he renders them out ! :-)This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and
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| Re: Website Changes... [message #96938 is a reply to message #96931] |
Sun, 16 March 2008 22:08 |
John Macy
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"Ted Gerber" <tedgerber@rogers.com> wrote:
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>[SFX: Ted's "helloooooooo" echoes off into the distance, bathed in a warm
hall reverb]
On 5/19/08 4:01 PM, in article 483206c7$1@linux, "Ted Gerber"
<tedgerber@rogers.com> wrote:
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>That would be a DP/Pro hall reverb as ported by our guy Mike
"Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
news:C45767CC.AFBD%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
> [SFX: Ted's "helloooooooo" echoes off into the distance, bathed in a warm
> hall reverb]
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> On 5/19/08 4:01 PM, in article 483206c7$1@linux, "Ted Gerber"
> <tedgerber@rogers.com> wrote:
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>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote:
>That would be a DP/Pro hall reverb as ported by our guy Mike
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Which Ted can't hear because he's on a Mac :>("Ted Gerber" <tedgerber@rogers.com> wrote:
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>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote:
>>That would be a DP/Pro hall reverb as ported by our guy Mike
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>Which Ted can't hear because he's on a Mac :>(
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Patients Grasshopper, someday soon, I will find my copy of Code Warrior!
Then again, Mike will probably have that Mac long before I find it: )hi 2...just hi...no i'm not ...hi...never mind...
On 20 May 2008 09:01:27 +1000, "Ted Gerber" <tedgerber@rogers.com>
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>if you haven't found it by now, i'd ask the mrs. which sweater drawer
it's in...youl'd be surprised what gets put in there.
On 20 May 2008 12:07:56 +1000, "James McCloskey"
<excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>"Ted Gerber" <tedgerber@rogers.com> wrote:
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>>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote:
>>>That would be a DP/Pro hall reverb as ported by our guy Mike
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>>Which Ted can't hear because he's on a Mac :>(
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>Patients Grasshopper, someday soon, I will find my copy of Code Warrior!
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>Then again, Mike will probably have that Mac long before I find it: )As am I.
WAAAANHHH!
Gantt
P.S. Sorry to whine.
"Ted Gerber" <tedgerber@rogers.com> wrote:
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>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote:
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| Re: Website Changes... [message #96974 is a reply to message #96922] |
Mon, 17 March 2008 08:29 |
Rich[5]
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that either disk bounce or spdif got screwed up in version 3.x I've done
some unsientific listen tests between the two, and I can't tell the difference.
Rod
"Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
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>Hmm, now I am curious, does anyone else hear a diff?
>Is the SPDIF file more open and clear?
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>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
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>>Ted, If I remember right, rendered files were never in dispute, as Brian
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>>did a 10th generation render and it still canceled out. What was in dispute
>>was disk bounce in 3.0 versues spdif bounce in 3.0. Sakis held the position
>>that disk bounce in 3.0 was not as accurate as spdif bounce.
>>Rod
>>"Ted Gerber" <tedgerber@rogers.com> wrote:
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>>>I just recently started rendering files with native plugins
>>>after testing the rendered against the edited original and
>>>flipping the phase (copy channel settings to the new track
>>>with the rendered file etc etc) I've been happy with the
>>>result. Any prior nudging for latency (with UAD for
>>>instance) is accounted for in the newly rendered file and it
>>>saves time and horsepower. I hadn't used PARIS for a few years
>>>until last summer, and remembered the debate between Sakis and
>>>others over whether rendered files - with or without plugins -
>>>were as accurate as bounced files. So far so good.
>>>
>>>Ted
>>>
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>That's kind of funny. IMO not as good as the other stuff though (like Clapton,
that one is great)
Rod
"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
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>http://youtube.com/watch?v=RZrv9BQFvSA&feature=relatedCheck this out. I love this one. Notice the back up guitar on the left.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=89zM9pZzt0U&feature=related
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
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>That's kind of funny. IMO not as good as the other stuff though (like Clapton,
>that one is great)
>Rod
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
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>>http://youtube.com/watch?v=RZrv9BQFvSA&feature=related
>That's hilarous. I love when they all punctuate together. Very funny.
and another........
Def Leppard shreds: http://youtube.com/watch?v=r5fjKEdIH4M
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
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>Check this out. I love this one. Notice the back up guitar on the left.
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| Re: Website Changes... [message #96997 is a reply to message #96974] |
Mon, 17 March 2008 14:29 |
mike audet[3]
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a mix and need more
> VSTi's (not to mention the freeze function).
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> and yes James......I'm sure a Mac Pro can run circles around this, but a
> Mac Pro, tricked out to this degree would cost considerably more ;o).
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> For me these days, it's about achieving a certain benchmark and that benchmark
> is to be able to use a native DAW with no audible latency, in the same way
> that I used Paris. that has been accomplished now.
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> I just wanted to give you guys a heads up about this and also to apologize
> for being such a cantankerous wiseass (even more than usual) lately. I did
> buy some Brie recently as a gesture of solidarity with my socialist bretherin
> in France....
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> Cheers,
>
> ;o)Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>Sounds great and that is a reasonable price, but my question was this:
>let's say you are tracking a singer that wants some verb in the cans. Do
>you use outboard or track with a plug or could you do either?
>
Bill,
You could do either, though a native reverb would use some of your CPU cycles.
I really haven't tried using a native reverb for ambience while tracking.
I'll give it a go and see what the verdict is.Hi Deej,
Thanks for sharing this. The latency is the one issue that I simply could
never deal with in a native daw.
It is really encouraging to hear that native may be ready for prime time.
I wonder if a quad core phenom would do as well as the core 2.
Would NoLimt!, the compressors, and the verbs in vst format be something
you would use in this new beast? I'm thinking that keeping the algos alive
in native form will be the best way to keep Paris alive over the long term,
and also keep you ex-pats in the fold.
All the best,
Mike
"Deej" <noway@jose.net> wrote:
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>Well, the last couple of months or so has been one of the most stressful
periods
>of my entire life as far as work goes. Chuck Norris jokes seemed like more
>of a sane reality than the insane reality of what's been going on here.
I
>got sick in February.......real sick, and wasn't able to really work for
>about 3 weeks and during that time I needed to be working at least 50 hours
>a week on a drilling program that I had committed to, so when I got well
>enough to work, the shit had hit the fan, I was behind the 8 ball and so
>I spent the next 60 days trying to stay ahead of 5 drilling rigs that had
>moved into this area (because I told them I could do what needed to get
done
>to keep them busy)and unless I pulled a rabbit out of my hat, they were
going
>to sit idle to the tune of $17,000.00 per day....and that was just for one
>client. another one had me doing some other stuff that was even more stressful
>so anyway, I know I've been abraisive and cranky oand a little whacked out
>so thanks for not kicking me out of the group..........and during this time,
>I've had Chris Ludwig build me a new DAW.
>
>It's an Intel Quad Core machine and is capable of playing back 40 tracks
>at 1.5ms latency while recording 8 more with a 70% DSP load of UAD-1 plugins.
>In Parisspeak, that's roughly a 3 MEC system running lots of UAD-1 plugins
>at zero audible latency with a wonderful cue system, VSTi's, and every bell
>and whistle you can imagine, without using ASIO direct monitoring.
>ADK did a great job on this box and it wasn't real expensive. the cores
are
>running at 3.2GHz per, it's got 4G of RAM and 4 x 500G 7200 RPM SATAII HD's
>configured into a RAID 10 Array. I'm also running a pair of 750G SATAII
drives
>for audio samples and backup, respectively.
>
>Does it sound like Paris? Nope, but it sounds very good. It's possible to
>mix in Native and get "BIG". It's just a different prescription. The Neve
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| Re: Website Changes... [message #97022 is a reply to message #96997] |
Tue, 18 March 2008 06:44 |
Miguel Vigil [1]
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have a full system to test" thing. But as a start we'll settle for
> whatever we can lay our hands on.
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> In addition we'd need a PARIS community member who lives in the 48
> contiguous states (to keep shipping costs and delays low) to volunteer to
> be
> the occasional "depot/shipping person". They'd be the person that received
> the donated components, tested them, assembled them into a rig, and sent
> it
> to where it needed to go, and if needed (although if it finds a long-term
> home fast, that's good news for us) receive it back and ship it elsewhere.
>
> BTW, I'd do it myself in a heartbeat, but I'm in Canada - don't even ask
> what international shipping would add to the hassle and the cost and the
> delays. I've already had the first potential volunteer interest, and he's
> a
> name you've all known a long time, but we're clear that there are some
> commitments I need to obtain from others before we can ask him for his.
>
> Incidentally, obviously I'm not proposing we stick that volunteer, whoever
> it winds up being, with picking up shipping/packing charges. I'd propose
> setting up something like a PayPal account for them in order to let the
> community chip in a few bucks apiece to cover any reasonable
> packing/shipping costs. I'd nag, too - these are trivial "beer money"
> costs
> for a community to absorb, rather than a lump for an individual.
>
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> As mentioned, this is not an actual call for components yet - it's just an
> "assessment" call to determine if folks would give concrete support to
> this
> idea. I'd put everyone fully in the picture on *where* I was proposing it
> to
> go (and of course *why*) when I made the actual call for components.
>
> PARIS hardware prices have plummeted so far that the gear's hardly worth
> selling now - ($25 for a C16? Feh, the faders in it are probably worth
> more
> than that as salvage!), and there's the possibility of very exciting
> developments if everything worked out well.
>
> So if you're contemplating blowing PARIS gear out at absurd "it's
> gathering
> dust, make me an offer, just get it out of here" fire-sale prices anyway -
> a
> component or two, or an old but functional PARIS-equipped PC, or even a
> full
> rig - would you consider donating components to such a "development rig"
> effort instead?
>
> In addition, would there be any interest in making a small donation to a
> community fund to purchase any components we're missing after we see what
> the donation call brings in? 27 MECs won't help us if we only have a
> single
> EDS card.
>
> I've got no promises to give in exchange at this moment, except my own,
> that
> I'm working on things. But this is what's needed to get 'em done. Let me
> know what you think.
>
> - Kerry Galloway
>Hi Aaron,
I can read the assembly language and translate that to c++ easily enough,
but I don't know the first thing about making an emulator. I think that's
just beyond me.
I suspect that the biggest thing about the PARIS sound is the quality of
the D/A and A/D converters and the effects. I can take a look at the mix
bus, but I can almost guarantee that there isn't much to see. It's probably
just adding the tracks together and dividing them by the number of tracks.
if I remember right, it drops the volume by 6 db before mixing them and
makes it up after. But, that's it. It's probably doing it at 48 bit integer
resolution (inside the MAC of the chips) before truncating. We could use
64 bits in the VST stuff.
The sound is probably a combination of the converters and the cumulative
effect of the eqs, compressors, reverbs, etc. When you blend it all together,
you have the PARIS sound. We'll get some of it by porting the effects, but
the sound of the converters will be lost to those who decide to move on to
other hardware, whether we make an emulator or not.
As for sample rate, all the effects have to take into account sample rate
for 44.1 and 48k. That math is already being done. It will be cool to hear
how the effects sound at 96k.
Personally, I'm not planning to move on ever anyway, though. :)
All the best,
MikeYeah the drummer's really cool.
But why would you give up on GB just because he sings? He has too much
talent? He actually was a pro singer as a child, before he was the jazz
great he became.
Thing is he still plays the same but he also sings great. The reason i
posted that vid is because it shows how funky he is on guitar AND
vocals. I cannot think of another musician who can totally hang with
*anyone* on both their instrument and vocals. Can you?
TCB wrote:
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