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legal alternative route for lack of support [message #59173] Mon, 17 October 2005 08:23 Go to next message
Fred Bloggs is currently offline  Fred Bloggs
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>What I was doing…in theory.
Short version.
Compose in DP or Logic because of MIDI strengths, ADC and moving fader automation.
Use good outboard to get the sound before entering the DAW.
Keep A/D and D/A conversions to a minimum – try to stay digital once converted.
Use Paris for mix bus and PC/Paris effects hosting.
Use ADAT optical between DAWs.

This has worked fine but left me looking for a way to integrate 96K audio,
which I like primarily for the improvement in plugin sound and the dramatic
improvement in some soft synths. (I also like the improvement in acoustical
recordings such as voice, but it is much less dramatic there, particularly
if the final results are 44.1.)

When I looked at the way I actually worked, it turned out that I was going
out of DP to hardware and returning to DP for most of my critical channels.
In fact for some mixes, I was going out and back on almost every track. Sometimes
I froze the tracks so I could utilize my best converters, and sometimes I
set the loops up during mixdown. The point is I was making an additional
A/D, D/A pass on almost every track.

New Method.
With the realization that I was making the extra conversions anyway I switched
to:
Analog out of DP.
Hardware EQs and effects after the DP outputs when needed, then analog back
into Paris.
This turns out to be the same amount of conversions but allows me to work
in DP at 96K.
I uses a combination of my Mytek 8X96 8 channel D/A plus my 2408MKIIIs for
D/A, and my Mytek 8X96 8 channel A/D plus my Paris 24bit cards back in.
I usually pick the most critical channels for the Myteks but I sometimes
prefer the warmth and softening of the Paris converters.

So now I have the 96K sound that I like along with the Paris Mix engine at
44.1.
The small quality reduction I occasionally thought I heard using 20bit optical
is gone.
The extra conversion is not extra after all.

You may know that some mastering engineers use this method to convert to
44.1 rather then use software samplerate conversion. No Dither.

I may try to h
Re: legal alternative route for lack of support [message #59175 is a reply to message #59173] Mon, 17 October 2005 09:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: legal alternative route for lack of support [message #59179 is a reply to message #59173] Mon, 17 October 2005 09:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: legal alternative route for lack of support [message #59191 is a reply to message #59179] Mon, 17 October 2005 11:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: legal alternative route for lack of support [message #59192 is a reply to message #59191] Mon, 17 October 2005 11:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: legal alternative route for lack of support [message #59194 is a reply to message #59173] Mon, 17 October 2005 12:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: legal alternative route for lack of support [message #59196 is a reply to message #59173] Mon, 17 October 2005 14:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: legal alternative route for lack of support [message #59213 is a reply to message #59182] Mon, 17 October 2005 18:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: legal alternative route for lack of support [message #59226 is a reply to message #59224] Mon, 17 October 2005 20:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: legal alternative route for lack of support [message #59232 is a reply to message #59230] Mon, 17 October 2005 20:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: legal alternative route for lack of support [message #59236 is a reply to message #59194] Mon, 17 October 2005 21:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: legal alternative route for lack of support [message #59237 is a reply to message #59236] Mon, 17 October 2005 21:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: legal alternative route for lack of support [message #59259 is a reply to message #59213] Tue, 18 October 2005 07:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
benjamin is currently offline  benjamin   UNITED STATES
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Is this not the most Australian thing you've ever seen? ;o)This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

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AP -
Under cries of “Bring Democracy to Australia” The US attacked a remote area
of North Queensland today.
When asked why the Vice President replied. “We are the underwater country”
No other country has as many major cities under
Re: legal alternative route for lack of support [message #59381 is a reply to message #59237] Fri, 21 October 2005 18:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Doug Wellington is currently offline  Doug Wellington   UNITED STATES
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>>>>have to leave a small amount of space between the now line
>>>>>>>>>>>>and the start of audio... but no more than about a second.
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>>>>>>>>>>>I see. I just selected all the tracks and nudged them up a bit
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>>>>>>>>>>>worked fine.
>>>>&g


Re: legal alternative route for lack of support [message #59386 is a reply to message #59381] Fri, 21 October 2005 21:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Fred Blooggs the thir is currently offline  Fred Blooggs the thir
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;>>>>>>>>>result. (I have them start immediately in the Editor.) Is
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>issue? Do I need to insert some silence at the beginning or
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> >>>>>>>rerecord
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Re: legal alternative route for lack of support [message #59405 is a reply to message #59381] Sat, 22 October 2005 11:09 Go to previous message
Paul Artola is currently offline  Paul Artola   UNITED STATES
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