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Sun, 17 September 2006 06:24   |
Don Nafe
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llions of dollars behind it. I don't
think Apple or Logic are going to fail any time soon. Logic will, and has
improved over time. Apple could make more money if they had a PC version
again, but it doesn't much matter to Mac users and their are millions of
us. I think the biggest problem with Logic is the $999.00 price, if it were
$499.00, and continued to improve, a lot more people would be using it.
There is no perfect DAW, they all need work. Is Nuendo $1,500.00 better
than Logic? Before you answer that, maybe you should try the latest version
of Logic on a new Mac with Symphony. Then I think you would really know.
Logic 5.5 is a vary old version. It's all subjective, different strokes
for different fokes. Jamie and others here are examples of people that really
like Logic and are able to do serious work with Logic, so I don't think it's
dyeing. Logic and Apple are only going to get better with time. By the
way Logic and SoundTrack are supposed to work together, like Vegas and Acid.
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| Re: Okay now I feel like a fool [message #72554 is a reply to message #72553] |
Sun, 17 September 2006 07:11 |
Tom Bruhl
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Hey, it's always good to have choices.
James
"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>Hey Dedric,
>I disagree..I think Apps like DP & Logic Audio should die off fi they continue
>down their Mac centric, mac only, Midi first approach. They will die off
>if they don't adjust their product to the demands of the industry..
>
>Now it's a Steinberg, Digidesign, Cakwwalk who are dominating the game now.
>Apple has dropped the ball with Logic. It seems that Apple is putting most
>of their cardsinto IPODS.
>
>I think Final Cut Pro will mature into a Nueundo(ish) type app or more so
>Sony Vegas Pro.
>
>
>Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>Imho, Soundtrack Pro seems to be aimed directly at the video market that
>>will spend tens of thousands on video, but not a dime on audio. They have
>>Soundtrack "Pro", which automatically replaces an actual audio pro as soon
>>as it is launched! (Thanks to ProTools, any program carrying the "pro"
>>moniker automatically imparts professional skills on any unsuspecting user.
>>;-)
>>
>>Logic is a great program. So are DP, Nuendo, SX, Sonar, and
>>Samplitude/Sequoia (despite the lack of dual core support, still). Even
>PT
>>isn't bad for a generic or educational DAW. ;-) I would actually hate
>to
>>see any of them die off - it wouldn't bode well for the industry as a whole.
>>
>>The biggest threat DAWs face isn't one another, but technology... making
>>what we do for a living a simple click of a button accessible to anyone
>age
>>5 to 95.
>>
>>Dedric
>>
>>On 9/30/06 11:26 PM, in article 451f5170$1@linux, "LaMont"
>><jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Jamie My Logic Audio Buddy..An even better example of the level of audio
>>> editing,
>>> look and feel that Logic shouold be heading towards. Well, it looks like
>>> Apple is heading there without them.
>>>
>>> I heard a rumor that most of the German(emagic)team is not leading the
>Logic
>>> Audio development team. That it's all Apple developers? Is this true?
>>>
>>> http://www.apple.com/finalcutstudio/quicktours/?quicktours/a udio/qt_stpro_2_re
>>> storation
>>
>If you've been fllowing my torturous Xperamentin thread........it looks like
all of my grief about the latency compensation issues with nudging/slipping
Paris tracks may be solved by using the UAD-1 Delaycomp in "Cubase" as the
first insert on the channel that is processing the Paris track. The first
UAD-1 compensation increment seems to cover the native latency, then
subsequent incremental adjustments cover the plugins. Just adjust it per
plugin and the track stays in phase. Also, Drumagog seems to have the exact
same latency as a single UAD-1 plugin so on a kick, I can just insert the
UAD-1 delaycomp, adjust it to compensate for two UAD-1 plugins (one for
buffer latency, the other for Drumagog), insert Drumagog in the next slot
and the kick track locks to the rest of the drum tracks that aren't being
processed.
Now Paris automation can be used without having to worry about the track
being nudged and the plugin automation features can be used.
This is too easy......there's gotta be a catch.
;o)&^%$**&^%!!!!!!.......close, but not there yet. I'm approaching brain death.
Time to chill. I'm gonna figure this out somehow at some point.
"DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote in message news:4520555f$1@linux...
> If you've been fllowing my torturous Xperamentin thread........it looks
like
> all of my grief about the latency compensation issues with
nudging/slipping
> Paris tracks may be solved by using the UAD-1 Delaycomp in "Cubase" as the
> first insert on the channel that is processing the Paris track. The first
> UAD-1 compensation increment seems to cover the native latency, then
> subsequent incremental adjustments cover the plugins. Just adjust it per
> plugin and the track stays in phase. Also, Drumagog seems to have the
exact
> same latency as a single UAD-1 plugin so on a kick, I can just insert the
> UAD-1 delaycomp, adjust it to compensate for two UAD-1 plugins (one for
> buffer latency, the other for Drumagog), insert Drumagog in the next slot
> and the kick track locks to the rest of the drum tracks that aren't being
> processed.
> Now Paris automation can be used without having to worry about the track
> being nudged and the plugin automation features can be used.
>
> This is too easy......there's gotta be a catch.
>
> ;o)
>
>
>Good stuff DJ.., I'm watchin with very closely, im also doin the double DAW
shuffle but on a smaller scale. Please do give us a detailed breakdown once
you get her all figured out.
Rob
"DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote in message news:4520555f$1@linux...
> If you've been fllowing my torturous Xperamentin thread........it looks
> like
> all of my grief about the latency compensation issues with
> nudging/slipping
> Paris tracks may be solved by using the UAD-1 Delaycomp in "Cubase" as the
> fir
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| Re: Okay now I feel like a fool [message #72556 is a reply to message #72554] |
Sun, 17 September 2006 07:26 |
Don Nafe
Messages: 1206
Registered: July 2005
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just insert the
> UAD-1 delaycomp, adjust it to compensate for two UAD-1 plugins (one for
> buffer latency, the other for Drumagog), insert Drumagog in the next slot
> and the kick track locks to the rest of the drum tracks that aren't being
> processed.
> Now Paris automation can be used without having to worry about the track
> being nudged and the plugin automation features can be used.
>
> This is too easy......there's gotta be a catch.
>
> ;o)
>
>
>Ummm... not a 64bit, but I ran a Pent III Dual processor on windows 2000 for
many years...
I know there were issues with the AMD. I reported my findings/useage to
Brian T when he was asking and taking a inventory of what works.... so there
was no problem on the Pentium side...
"DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote in message news:451de9d9@linux...
> I'm going to make a serious attempt to get Paris to work on a Gigabyte
> K8NS
> Ultra 939 mobo with an AMD 64 4200 x 2 CPU. So far, to knowledge, running
> Paris on dual processors hasn't been achieved with a working C-16
> scenario..
> There was a tool released by AMD a while back that *might* change this
> scenario, though I have no idea if it will..........but nothing
> ventured..........
>
> To my knowledge, the problem was with the C-16 not responding. I'm too
> busy
> here to tear down my Paris rig and drag an EDS card and a MEC out of the
> snakepit and into my workshop. I don't have any spares. All I would need
> is
> an EDS card. An IF 442 would be nice, but I've got an IF 2 I could use
> here
> if necessary and I can liberate one of my C-16's without screwing the
> pooch.
>
> Call me if you're up for loaning me an EDS card/442 for a few days. If I
> can
> get this to happen, I'll document it and we can put in in our bag of
> tricks.
> 970-375-7081.
>
> Deej
>
>
>
>Thanks for the link... I am such a devoted Beatles fan, since the
sixties....
I ordered this book... Hundred bucks, but the information could be
priceless...
"Gary Flanigan" <gary_flangian@ce9.uscourts.gov> wrote in message
news:451beb1f$1@linux...
>
> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>>Are you talking about the big Mark Lewisohn book with all the details of
>
>>each session?
>
> No, this is a completely new book, listing all the equipment, how it was
> used, etc. Really an incredible effort. The form factor of the book is
> the size of a box of 2" multitrack tape, and it weighs about 12 pounds.
>
>
> http://www.recordingthebeatles.com/
>Me too Deej
Don
ps. thanks for the help this afternoon...amazing what two great minds can
accomplish
"Rob Arsenault" <mani2@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message news:45205a45@linux...
> Good stuff DJ.., I'm watchin with very closely, im also doin the double
> DAW shuffle but on a smaller scale. Please do give us a detailed breakdown
> once you get her all figured out.
>
> Rob
>
>
> "DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote in message news:4520555f$1@linux...
>> If you've been fllowing my torturous Xperamentin thread........it looks
>> like
>> all of my grief about the latency compensation issues with
>> nudging/slipping
>> Paris tracks may be solved by using the UAD-1 Delaycomp in "Cubase" as
>> the
>> first insert on the channel that is processing the Paris track. The first
>> UAD-1 compensation increment seems to cover the native latency, then
>> subsequent incremental adjustments cover the plugins. Just adjust it per
>> plugin and the track stays in phase. Also, Drumagog seems to have the
>> exact
>> same latency as a single UAD-1 plugin so on a kick, I can just insert the
>> UAD-1 delaycomp, adjust it to compensate for two UAD-1 plugins (one for
>> buffer latency, the other for Drumagog), insert Drumagog in the next slot
>> and the kick track locks to the rest of the drum tracks that aren't being
>> processed.
>> Now Paris automation can be used without having to worry about the track
>> being nudged and the plugin automation features can be used.
>>
>> This is too easy......there's gotta be a catch.
>>
>> ;o)
>>
>>
>>
>
>I been using Norton Ghost for many years... absolutely no problem restoring
or backing up...
Although, be aware that if you have an old restore and you change something
drastic like motherboard.. it may cause problems... I try to restore with
just the OS, paris and plugins... and that's it... AV and all those other
goodies is best left for a clean install....
"JCampbell" <campbell1745@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:451d4cf5$1@linux...
> Thanks for weighing in. Looks like I'm in for a re-install. My Paris
> configuration was perfect
> before the clone process. So, Acronis may be the culprit or, maybe like
> scott v, I should have tried Ghost.
> Or it could have been pilot error. Like it usually is 8>)
>
> I'll be going the route you suggested, Aaron.
>
> cheers, Jim
>
>
>
> Aaron Allen wrote:
>> sounds like you may have your effect subsystem (XP) drivers set up wrong.
>> Uninstall (if you installed) and be VERY diligent about the paths when
>> you install again. Reboot after EVERY move. Uninstall, reboot. Install,
>> reboot. Fire up Paris.
>> Workin'?
>> AA
>>
>> "JCampbell" <campbell1745@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>> news:451c19d2@linux...
>>> I cloned my system disk using Acronis and that part was smooth.
>>> Actually, pretty straight forward. (I'm on XP pro Sp2).
>>>
>>> I had to re-install my Unitor8 Mkll (usb). Ok, no big deal even though
>>> the install process makes about as much sense
>>> as a monkey on crack. (Maybe I'm on crack and don't know it.)
>>>
>>> Now the good part... clicking on the Paris Pro icon causes an immediate
>>> shutdown and re-boot. After re-boot,
>>> there's one of those microshaft error boxes saying the computer has
>>> recovered from a serious malfunction or whatever.
>>>
>>> Before I go trying to do a complete re-install of Paris does anyone have
>>> a bit of advise on a possible
>>> alternative to a complete re-install? I'm using 1 MEC, 1 C-16, and 2
>>> cards, Intel Mobo & CPU. This set up has been stable for
>>> years. Then again I don't do much heavy editing and tracking.
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