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Re: message from democrats [message #75641 is a reply to message #75640] Wed, 08 November 2006 14:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: message from democrats [message #75644 is a reply to message #75640] Wed, 08 November 2006 14:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: message from democrats [message #75649 is a reply to message #75644] Wed, 08 November 2006 15:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: message from democrats [message #75651 is a reply to message #75640] Wed, 08 November 2006 16:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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> http://www.polesoft.com/refer.htmlTom, All the old plugs are the same as they've always been.
The Neve 1078 and 1081 (big versions)have the same latency wich you correctly
repored. Your correct on the 60933. The light versions of the Neve plugs
have the same latecny as all the old plugs. All the Prec. Plugs have more
latency, and they're all different, with the Multiband being about twice
as much.

"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>For those that care,
>
>My numbers on UAD-1 ver 4.4 were:
>44K Neve 60933 =3D 557ms, 64 samples
>
>UAD-1 4.3 and before
>44K =3D most plugs 365ms, 12 samples (Pultec 3 samples)
>Tom
>
> "DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote in message news:45628cda@linux...
> Sorry Chris.I think it changed (basically doubled) in v4.4 actually.
>
> Deej
> "cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote in message
> news:455db889$1@linux...
> >
> >
> >
> > hey DJ, I know you guys don;t care about this in your set up,
> > But did the latency change in the newer UAD updates?
> > I think it was Tom B who was having this issue a while back.
> > C
> >
> > "Neil" <IOUOI@OI.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >"DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
> > >>Of course, since I had a $100.00 credit from way back when I =
>bought
> another
> > >>card and I got the $149.00 discount coupon because I had =
>previously
> > >>purchased the 1073, I now own both of these, otherwise I'd =
>be.....well,
> > >you know.
> > >
> > >Needing to die?
> > >
> > >:)
>
>
>
>
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> <DIV>"DJ" <<A =
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> it changed (basically doubled) in v4.4 actually.<BR><BR>Deej<BR>"cujo"
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>But did=20
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>
> This guys gets shot in the head, you see. Amazingly, he's still =
alive.
They
> get him to the emergency room and the neurosurgeon looks at the =
Xray and
> says, "We can save this guy, but it will be a very long and =
difficult
operation.
> It will be very risky, but I think we can do it"
>
> They roll the patient in for surgery and get under way. It takes =
five
hours
> of stabilizing the patient just enough so that they can attempt to =
remove
> the bullet. The doctor finally attaches the hemostat onto the =
shell and
contemplates
> removing the thing from the patient's brain. He starts to sweat =
profusely,
> knowing that one wrong move could turn this guy's brain into =
oatmeal.
Seeing
> his state, his nurse turns to him and says, "Relax doctor. It's =
not like
> we are making a Steely Dan record or anything."




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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>&gt; a =
=E9crit dans le=20
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href=3D"mailto:456a6bdc$1@linux">456a6bdc$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Great one John!</FONT></DIV>
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wrote in message <A=20
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Glad I didn't read this tomorrow morning while performing =
the<BR>sacred=20
coffee ritual.<BR><BR>;o)<BR><BR><BR>;o)<BR><BR>"John Macy" &lt;<A=20
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t;=20
This guys gets shot in the head, you see. Amazingly, he's still=20
alive.<BR>They<BR>&gt; get him to the emergency room and the =
neurosurgeon=20
looks at the Xray and<BR>&gt; says, "We can save this guy, but it =
will be a=20
very long and difficult<BR>operation.<BR>&gt; It will be very risky, =
but I=20
think we can do it"<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; They roll the patient in for =
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get under way. It takes five<BR>hours<BR>&gt; of stabilizing the =
patient=20
just enough so that they can attempt to remove<BR>&gt; the bullet. =
The=20
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brain. He=20
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turn=20
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nurse turns=20
to him and says, "Relax doctor. It's not like<BR>&gt; we are making =
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------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C71263.F55F8A50--Hi Mike,

Check this out:

http://www.ntius.com/dragon_burn.asp

States 10.1.4 as the minimum OS.

--Mark
"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>Not Paris related, but I can find nothing on the internet and thought maybe
>someone in this group could h
Re: message from democrats [message #75712 is a reply to message #75654] Thu, 09 November 2006 09:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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you =
correctly
repored. Your correct on the 60933. The light versions of the Neve =
plugs
have the same latecny as all the old plugs. All the Prec. Plugs have =
more
latency, and they're all different, with the Multiband being about =
twice
as much.

"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>For those that care,
>
>My numbers on UAD-1 ver 4.4 were:
>44K Neve 60933 =3D3D 557ms, 64 samples
>
>UAD-1 4.3 and before
>44K =3D3D most plugs 365ms, 12 samples (Pultec 3 samples)
>Tom
>
> "DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote in message news:45628cda@linux...
> Sorry Chris.I think it changed (basically doubled) in v4.4 =
actually.
>
> Deej
> "cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote in message
> news:455db889$1@linux...
> >
> >
> >
> > hey DJ, I know you guys don;t care about this in your set up,
> > But did the latency change in the newer UAD updates?
> > I think it was Tom B who was having this issue a while back.
> > C
> >
> > "Neil" <IOUOI@OI.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >"DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
> > >>Of course, since I had a $100.00 credit from way back when I =
=3D
>bought
> another
> > >>card and I got the $149.00 discount coupon because I had =3D
>previously
> > >>purchased the 1073
Re: message from democrats [message #75714 is a reply to message #75712] Thu, 09 November 2006 09:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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for the correction Rod.&nbsp; =
It's never=20
easy is it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If you have a chart on all those =
latencies I'd find=20
it</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>very useful.&nbsp; I still use the =
older one you=20
posted a</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>while back.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV>"Rod Lincoln" &lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g=
t;=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:456aeaf0$1@linux">news:456aeaf0$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Tom,=
All=20
the old plugs are the same as they've always been.<BR>The Neve 1078 =
and 1081=20
(big versions)have the same latency wich you correctly<BR>repored. =
Your=20
correct on the 60933. The light versions of the Neve plugs<BR>have the =
same=20
latecny as all the old plugs. All the Prec. Plugs have =
more<BR>latency, and=20
they're all different, with the Multiband being about twice<BR>as=20
much.<BR><BR>"Tom Bruhl" &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>&gt;=20
wrote:<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;For those that care,<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;My =
numbers=20
on UAD-1 ver 4.4 were:<BR>&gt;44K Neve 60933 =3D3D 557ms, 64=20
samples<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;UAD-1 4.3 and before<BR>&gt;44K =3D3D most =
plugs 365ms,=20
12 samples (Pultec 3 samples)<BR>&gt;Tom<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; "DJ" =
&lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:nowayjose@dude.net">nowayjose@dude.net</A>&gt; wrote in =
message=20
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href=3D"news:45628cda@linux">news:45628cda@linux</A>...<BR>&gt;&nbsp; =
Sorry=20
Chris.I think it changed (basically doubled) in v4.4=20
actually.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; Deej<BR>&gt;&nbsp; "cujo" &lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com">chris@nospamapplemanstudio=
..com</A>&gt;=20
wrote in message<BR>&gt;&nbsp; <A=20
=
href=3D"news:455db889$1@linux">news:455db889$1@linux</A>...<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=
=20
&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt; hey DJ, =
I know=20
you g
Re: message from democrats [message #75719 is a reply to message #75712] Thu, 09 November 2006 10:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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uys don;t care about this in your set up,<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt; But =
did the=20
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&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt; "Neil" &lt;<A=20
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&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt; &gt;"DJ" &lt;<A=20
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wrote:<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt; &gt;&gt;Of course, since I had a $100.00 =
credit from=20
way back when I =3D<BR>&gt;bought<BR>&gt;&nbsp; another<BR>&gt;&nbsp; =
&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;card and I got the $149.00 discount coupon because I had=20
=3D<BR>&gt;previously<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt; &gt;&gt;purchased the 1073, I =
now own=20
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&gt; &gt;you=20
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href=3D'news:455db889$1@linux">news:455db889$1@linux</A>...<BR>><BR>&amp;=
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Re: message from democrats [message #75723 is a reply to message #75669] Thu, 09 November 2006 10:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C71241.BC1D00A0--And this:

http://www.nch.com.au/switch/

"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>Not Paris related, but I can find nothing on the internet and thought maybe
>someone in this group could help out.
>I've got a client whose trying to convert .wma files to .wav files and then
>burn CD's with the .wav files. Her operating system is OS X 10.3. There
>are solutions out there, but they seem to all require OS X 10.4 or greater.
>Toast might help, but I seem to need version 6.0, not the latest, and I'm
>unsure if it converts .wma to wav, though it clearly will burn CD's.
>Thanks gents.
>MR
>
>
><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
><HTML><HEAD>
><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1555" name=3DGENERATOR>
><STYLE></STYLE>
></HEAD>
><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Not Paris related, but I can find =
>nothing on the=20
>internet and thought maybe someone in this group could help =
>out.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've got a client whose trying to =
>convert .wma=20
>files to .wav files and then burn CD's with the .wav files. Her =
>operating=20
>system is OS X 10.3. There are solutions out there, but they seem =
>to all=20
>require OS X 10.4 or greater. Toast might help, but I seem to need =
>version=20
>6.0, not the latest, and I'm unsure if it converts .wma to wav, though =
>it=20
>clearly will burn CD's.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks gents.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>MR</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>
>And this too!

http://www.easywma.com/


"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>Not Paris related, but I can find nothing on the internet and thought maybe
>someone in this group could help out.
>I've got a client whose trying to convert .wma files to .wav files and then
>burn CD's with the .wav files. Her operating system is OS X 10.3. There
>are solutions out there, but they seem to all require OS X 10.4 or greater.
>Toast might help, but I seem to need version 6.0, not the latest, and I'm
>unsure if it converts .wma to wav, though it clearly will burn CD's.
>Thanks gents.
>MR
>
>
><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
><HTML><HEAD>
><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1555" name=3DGENERATOR>
><STYLE></STYLE>
></HEAD>
><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Not Paris related, but I can find =
>nothing on the=20
>internet and thought maybe someone in this group could help =
>out.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've got a client whose trying to =
>convert .wma=20
>files to .wav files and then burn CD's with the .wav files. Her =
>operating=20
>system is OS X 10.3. There are solutions out there, but they seem =
>to all=20
>require OS X 10.4 or greater. Toast might help, but I seem to need =
>version=20
>6.0, not the latest, and I'm unsure if it converts .wma to wav, though =
>it=20
>clearly will burn CD's.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks gents.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>MR</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>
>Sound Forge 8 has WMA conversion capabilities, and it comes with
CD Architect, but I don't know if they have a Mac version?

Do you happen to have any app residing on a PC that does this?
If so, what about just dumping the WMA's onto a CD-R & then
opening it on a PC & doing the rest from there?

Neil


"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>Not Paris related, but I can find nothing on the internet and thought maybe
>someone in this group could help out.
>I've got a client whose trying to convert .wma files to .wav files and then
>burn CD's with the .wav files. Her operating system is OS X 10.3. There
>are solutions out there, but they seem to all require OS X 10.4 or greater.
>Toast might help, but I seem to need version 6.0, not the latest, and I'm
>unsure if it converts .wma to wav, though it clearly will burn CD's.
>Thanks gents.
>MR
>
>
><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
><HTML><HEAD>
><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1555" name=3DGENERATOR>
><STYLE></STYLE>
></HEAD>
><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Not Paris related, but I can find =
>nothing on the=20
>internet and thought maybe someone in this group could help =
>out.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've got a client whose trying to =
>convert .wma=20
>files to .wav files and then burn CD's with the .wav files.  Her =
>operating=20
>system is OS X 10.3.  There are solutions out there, but they seem =
>to all=20
>require OS X 10.4 or greater.  Toast might help, but I seem to need =
>version=20
>6.0, not the latest, and I'm unsure if it converts .wma to wav, though =
>it=20
>clearly will burn CD's.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks gents.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>MR</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>
>hi all,

It's been a while since I posted here...I've only sporadically used my PARIS
rig in the past couple years (1 card/MEC/24-8 in/out on a dedicated MAC G4
Quicksilver). Never had problems before, but today PARIS won't boot up.

I get a 'Error initializing PARIS Engine Error code -43/ffffffd5

Tried replacing config file, reinstalled PARIS on another drive, cleaned
things up, etc all with the same problem. Help!Thanks Mark! This looks very promising. I could not for the life of me,
find this sort of stuff. Awesome.
MR
"Mark McDermott" <mark@stateofwail.com> wrote in message
news:456b57ab$1@linux...
>
> And this too!
>
> http://www.easywma.com/
>
>
> "Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >Not Paris related, but I can find nothing on the internet and thought
maybe
> >someone
Re: message from democrats [message #75724 is a reply to message #75718] Thu, 09 November 2006 10:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jamie K is currently offline  Jamie K   UNITED STATES
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in this group could help out.
> >I've got a client whose trying to convert .wma files to .wav files and
then
> >burn CD's with the .wav files. Her operating system is OS X 10.3. There
> >are solutions out there, but they seem to all require OS X 10.4 or
greater.
> >Toast might help, but I seem to need version 6.0, not the latest, and I'm
> >unsure if it converts .wma to wav, though it clearly will burn CD's.
> >Thanks gents.
> >MR
> >
> >
> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> ><HTML><HEAD>
> ><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
> >charset=3Diso-8859-1">
> ><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1555" name=3DGENERATOR>
> ><STYLE></STYLE>
> ></HEAD>
> ><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Not Paris related, but I can find =
> >nothing on the=20
> >internet and thought maybe someone in this group could help =
> >out.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've got a client whose trying to =
> >convert .wma=20
> >files to .wav files and then burn CD's with the .wav files. Her =
> >operating=20
> >system is OS X 10.3. There are solutions out there, but they seem =
> >to all=20
> >require OS X 10.4 or greater. Toast might help, but I seem to need =
> >version=20
> >6.0, not the latest, and I'm unsure if it converts .wma to wav, though =
> >it=20
> >clearly will burn CD's.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks gents.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>MR</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
> >
> >
>Is this the one when your Interfaces are not plgged in or MEC turned off?


"lucio" <yo@kingtone.com> wrote:
>
>hi all,
>
>It's been a while since I posted here...I've only sporadically used my PARIS
>rig in the past couple years (1 card/MEC/24-8 in/out on a dedicated MAC
G4
>Quicksilver). Never had problems before, but today PARIS won't boot up.
>
>I get a 'Error initializing PARIS Engine Error code -43/ffffffd5
>
>Tried replacing config file, reinstalled PARIS on another drive, cleaned
>things up, etc all with the same problem. Help!Hey Neil,
Thanks for the response. This particular client only has a Mac. I have CD
Architect, which is a great program. I thought about encouraging her to go
for this, (if it even runs on a Mac -I'm not sure either) but wanted to try
and find a less expensive solution for starters.
Thanks again man.
MR

"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:456b57f1$1@linux...
>
> Sound Forge 8 has WMA conversion capabilities, and it comes with
> CD Architect, but I don't know if they have a Mac version?
>
> Do you happen to have any app residing on a PC that does this?
> If so, what about just dumping the WMA's onto a CD-R & then
> opening it on a PC & doing the rest from there?
>
> Neil
>
>
> "Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >Not Paris related, but I can find nothing on the internet and thought
maybe
> >someone in this group could help out.
> >I've got a client whose trying to convert .wma files to .wav files and
then
> >burn CD's with the .wav files. Her operating system is OS X 10.3. There
> >are solutions out there, but they seem to all require OS X 10.4 or
greater.
> >Toast might help, but I seem to need version 6.0, not the latest, and I'm
> >unsure if it converts .wma to wav, though it clearly will burn CD's.
> >Thanks gents.
> >MR
> >
> >
> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> ><HTML><HEAD>
> ><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
> >charset=3Diso-8859-1">
> ><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1555" name=3DGENERATOR>
> ><STYLE></STYLE>
> ></HEAD>
> ><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Not Paris related, but
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I can find =
> >nothing on the=20
> >internet and thought maybe someone in this group could help =
> >out.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've got a client whose trying to =
> >convert .wma=20
> >files to .wav files and then burn CD's with the .wav files. Her =
> >operating=20
> >system is OS X 10.3. There are solutions out there, but they seem =
> >to all=20
> >require OS X 10.4 or greater. Toast might help, but I seem to need =
> >version=20
> >6.0, not the latest, and I'm unsure if it converts .wma to wav, though =
> >it=20
> >clearly will burn CD's.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks gents.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>MR</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
> >
> >
>hmm, so let me get this straight,
Only the newer NEVE plugs changed in 4.4?
Have a list of your nudge and sample slide values?
Thank you so much.


"Tom Bruhl" <ar
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pegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Thanks for the correction Rod. It's never easy is it.
>
>If you have a chart on all those latencies I'd find it
>very useful. I still use the older one you posted a
>while back.
>Tom
>
>
> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message =
>news:456aeaf0$1@linux...
>
> Tom, All the old plugs are the same as they've always been.
> The Neve 1078 and 1081 (big versions)have the same latency wich you =
>correctly
> repored. Your correct on the 60933. The light versions of the Neve =
>plugs
> have the same latecny as all the old plugs. All the Prec. Plugs have =
>more
> latency, and they're all different, with the Multiband being about =
>twice
> as much.
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >For those that care,
> >
> >My numbers on UAD-1 ver 4.4 were:
> >44K Neve 60933 =3D3D 557ms, 64 samples
> >
> >UAD-1 4.3 and before
> >44K =3D3D most plugs 365ms, 12 samples (Pultec 3 samples)
> >Tom
> >
> > "DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote in message news:45628cda@linux...
> > Sorry Chris.I think it changed (basically doubled) in v4.4 =
>actually.
> >
> > Deej
>
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> "cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote in message
> > news:455db889$1@linux...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > hey DJ, I know you guys don;t care about this in your set up,
> > > But did the latency change in the newer UAD updates?
> > > I think it was Tom B who was having this issue a while back.
> > > C
> > >
> > > "Neil" <IOUOI@OI.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >"DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
> > > >>Of course, since I had a $100.00 credit from way back when I =
>=3D
> >bought
> > another
> > > >>card and I got the $149.00 discount coupon because I had =3D
> >previously
> > > >>purchased the 1073, I now own both of these, otherwise I'd =3D
> >be.....well,
> > > >you know.
> > > >
> > > >Needing to die?
> > > >
> > > >:)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
> >
> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> ><HTML><HEAD>
> ><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
> >charset=3D3Diso-8859-1">
> ><META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3D3DGENERATOR>
> ><STYLE></STYLE>
> ></HEAD>
> ><BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>For those that =
>care,</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>My numbers on UAD-1 ver 4.4 =3D
> >were:</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>44K Neve 60933 =3D3D 557ms, =
>64=3D20
> >samples</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>UAD-1 4.3 and =
>before</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>44K =3D3D most plugs 365ms, 12 =
>samples =3D
> >(Pultec 3=3D20
> >samples)</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
> >style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>=3D
> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > <DIV>"DJ" <<A =3D
> >href=3D3D"mailto:nowayjose@dude.net">nowayjose@dude.net</A>>=3D20
> > wrote in message <A=3D20
> > =
>href=3D3D"news:45628cda@linux">news:45628cda@linux</A>...</DIV>Sorry =3D
> >Chris.I think=3D20
> > it changed (basically doubled) in v4.4 =
>actually.<BR><BR>Deej<BR>"cujo"
> =3D
> ><<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D"mailto:chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com">chris@nospamapplemanstu=
>dio=3D
> >.com</A>>=3D20
> > wrote in message<BR><A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D"news:455db889$1@linux">news:455db889$1@linux</A>...<BR>><BR>&g=
>=3D
> >t;<BR>><BR>>=3D20
> > hey DJ, I know you guys don;t care about this in your set up,<BR>>
=
>=3D
> >But did=3D20
> > the latency change in the newer UAD updates?<BR>> I think it was =
>=3D
> >Tom B who=3D20
> > was having this issue a while back.<BR>> C<BR>><BR>> "Neil" =3D
> ><<A=3D20
> > href=3D3D"mailto:IOUOI@OI.com">IOUOI@OI.com</A>> wrote:<BR>> =3D
> >><BR>>=3D20
> > >"DJ" <<A =3D
> >href=3D3D"mailto:nowayjose@dude.net">nowayjose@dude.net</A>>=3D20
> > wrote:<BR>> >>Of course, since I had a $100.00 credit from =3D
> >way back=3D20
> > when I bought<BR>another<BR>> >>card and I got the $149.00 =3D
> >discount=3D20
> > coupon because I had previously<BR>> >>purchased the 1073, I =3D
> >now own=3D20
> > both of these, otherwise I'd be.....well,<BR>> >you =3D
> >know.<BR>>=3D20
> > ><BR>> >Needing to die?<BR>> ><BR>>=3D20
> >>:)<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
> ><DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
>spam, =3D
> >and=3D20
> >you?<BR><A=3D20
> =
>>href=3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
>fer=3D
> >.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
> >
> >
>
>
><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
><HTML><HEAD>
><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3DGENERATOR>
><STYLE></STYLE>
></HEAD>
><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for the correction Rod.  =
>It's never=20
>easy is it.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If you have a chart on all those =
>latencies I'd find=20
>it</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>very useful.  I still use the =
>older one you=20
>posted a</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>while back.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g=
>t;=20
> wrote in message <A=20
> =
>href=3D"news:456aeaf0$1@linux">news:456aeaf0$

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linux" target="_blank">1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Tom,=
> All=20
> the old plugs are the same as they've always been.<BR>The Neve 1078 =
>and 1081=20
> (big versions)have the same latency wich you correctly<BR>repored. =
>Your=20
> correct on the 60933. The light versions of the Neve plugs<BR>have the
=
>same=20
> latecny as all the old plugs. All the Prec. Plugs have =
>more<BR>latency, and=20
> they're all different, with the Multiband being about twice<BR>as=20
> much.<BR><BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
> wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>For those that care,<BR>><BR>>My =
>numbers=20
> on UAD-1 ver 4.4 were:<BR>>44K Neve 60933 =3D3D 557ms, 64=20
> samples<BR>><BR>>UAD-1 4.3 and before<BR>>44K =3D3D most =
>plugs 365ms,=20
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><<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:nowayjose@dude.net">nowayjose@dude.net</A>> wrote in =
>message=20
> <A =
>href=3D"news:45628cda@linux">news:45628cda@linux</A>...<BR>>  =
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> Chris.I think it changed (basically doubled) in v4.4=20
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> =
>href=3D"mailto:chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com">chris@nospamapplemanstudio=
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> =
>href=3D"news:455db889$1@linux">news:455db889$1@linux</A>...<BR>> =
>=20
> ><BR>>  ><BR>>  ><BR>>  > hey DJ, =
>I know=20
> you guys don;t care about this in your set up,<BR>>  > But =
>did the=20
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>was Tom=20
> B who was having this issue a while back.<BR>>  > =
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> ><BR>>  > "Neil" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:IOUOI@OI.com">IOUOI@OI.com</A>> wrote:<BR>>  =
>>=20
> ><BR>>  > >"DJ" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:nowayjose@dude.net">nowayjose@dude.net</A>>=20
> wrote:<BR>>  > >>Of course, since I had a $100.00 =
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> way back when I =3D<BR>>bought<BR>>  another<BR>>  =
>>=20
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> =3D<BR>>previously<BR>>  > >>purchased the 1073, I =
>now own=20
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>> >you=20
> know.<BR>>  > ><BR>>  > >Needing to=20
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> >:)<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>I choose Polesoft =
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> =
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> wrote in message<BR><A=3D20<BR>>  =
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> =
>href=3D'news:455db889$1@linux">news:455db889$1@linux</A>...<BR>><BR>&=
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>><BR>&g</A>=3D<BR>>t;<BR>><BR>>=3D20<BR=
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> hey DJ, I know you guys don;t care about this in your set =
>up,<BR>>=20
> =3D<BR>>But did=3D20<BR>>  the latency change in the newer =
>UAD=20
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>who=3D20<BR>>  was=20
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> "Neil" =3D<BR>><<A=3D20<BR>>  href=3D3D"<A=20
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>href=3D'mailto:nowayjose@dude.net">nowayjose@dude.net</A>>=3D20'>mailto:n=
>owayjose@dude.net">nowayjose@dude.net</A>>=3D20</A><BR>>&n=
>bsp;=20
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>from=20
> =3D<BR>>way back=3D20<BR>>  when I=20
> bought<BR>another<BR>> >>card and I got the =
>$149.00=20
> =3D<BR>>discount=3D20<BR>>  coupon because I had=20
> previously<BR>> >>purchased the 1073, I =3D<BR>>now=20
> own=3D20<BR>>  both of these, otherwise I'd =
>be.....well,<BR>>=20
> >you =3D<BR>>know.<BR>>=3D20<BR>>  =
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> =
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>gt;<BR>><DIV><FONT=20
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>spam,=20
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>=3D<BR>>and=3D20<BR>>you?<BR><A=3D20<BR>>href=3D3D" <A=20
> =
>href=3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
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>
>Nothing changed. The newer Neve (1081 and 60933) weren't available before
4.4. The Neve 1078 was on 4.3. It's the same as always..which is more latency
than the "normal" UAD plugs. I'm at another sudio right now (twiddling my
thumbs, I did all my tracks last night in paris, and brought files in.) so
I don't have access to the list, but I'll try to get it posted when I get
home.
Rod
"Cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote:
>
>
>hmm, so let me get this straight,
>Only the newer NEVE plugs changed in 4.4?
>Have a list of your nudge and sample slide values?
>Thank you so much.
>
>
>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Thanks for the correction Rod. It's never easy is it.
>>
>>If you have a chart on all those latencies I'd find it
>>very useful. I still use the older one you posted a
>>while back.
>>Tom
>>
>>
>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message =
>>news:456aeaf0$1@linux...
>>
>> Tom, All the old plugs are the same as they've always been.
>> The Neve 1078 and 1081 (big versions)have the same latency wich you =
>>correctly
>> repored. Your correct on the 60933. The light versions of the Neve =
>>plugs
>> have the same latecny as all the old plugs. All the Prec. Plugs have
=
>>more
>> latency, and they're all different, with the Multiband being about =
>>twice
>> as much.
>>
>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
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>
>> >
>> >For those that care,
>> >
>> >My numbers on UAD-1 ver 4.4 were:
>> >44K Neve 60933 =3D3D 557ms, 64 samples
>> >
>> >UAD-1 4.3 and before
>> >44K =3D3D most plugs 365ms, 12 samples (Pultec 3 samples)
>> >Tom
>> >
>> > "DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote in message news:45628cda@linux...
>> > Sorry Chris.I think it changed (basically doubled) in v4.4 =
>>actually.
>> >
>> > Deej
>> > "cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote in message
>> > news:455db889$1@linux...
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > hey DJ, I know you guys don;t care about this in your set up,
>> > > But did the latency change in the newer UAD updates?
>> > > I think it was Tom B who was having this issue a while back.
>> > > C
>> > >
>> > > "
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Neil" <IOUOI@OI.com> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >"DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
>> > > >>Of course, since I had a $100.00 credit from way back when I =
>>=3D
>> >bought
>> > another
>> > > >>card and I got the $149.00 discount coupon because I had =3D
>> >previously
>> > > >>purchased the 1073, I now own both of these, otherwise I'd =3D
>> >be.....well,
>> > > >you know.
>> > > >
>> > > >Needing to die?
>> > > >
>> > > >:)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>> >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
>> >
>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>> ><HTML><HEAD>
>> ><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
>> >charset=3D3Diso-8859-1">
>> ><META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3D3DGENERATOR>
>> ><STYLE></STYLE>
>> ></HEAD>
>> ><BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>For those that =
>>care,</FONT></DIV>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>My numbers on UAD-1 ver 4.4 =3D
>> >were:</FONT></DIV>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>44K Neve 60933 =3D3D 557ms, =
>>64=3D20
>> >samples</FONT></DIV>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>UAD-1 4.3 and =
>>before</FONT></DIV>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>44K =3D3D most plugs 365ms, 12
=
>>samples =3D
>> >(Pultec 3=3D20
>> >samples)</FONT></DIV>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
>> >style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;
=
>>=3D
>> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>> > <DIV>"DJ" <<A =3D
>> >href=3D3D"mailto:nowayjose@dude.net">nowayjose@dude.net</A>>=3D20
>> > wrote in message <A=3D20
>> > =
>>href=3D3D"news:45628cda@linux">news:45628cda@linux</A>...</DIV>Sorry =3D
>> >Chris.I think=3D20
>> > it changed (basically doubled) in v4.4 =
>>actually.<BR><BR>Deej<BR>"cujo"
>> =3D
>> ><<A=3D20
>> > =3D
>> =
>>>href=3D3D"mailto:chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com">chris@nospamapplemanstu=
>>dio=3D
>> >.com</A>>=3D20
>> > wrote in message<BR><A=3D20
>> > =3D
>> =
>>>href=3D3D"news:455db889$1@linux">news:455db889$1@linux</A>...<BR>><BR>&g=
>>=3D
>> >t;<BR>><BR>>=3D20
>> > hey DJ, I know you guys don;t care about this in your set up,<BR>>
>=
>>=3D
>> >But did=3D20
>> > the latency change in the newer UAD updates?<BR>> I think it was =
>>=3D
>> >Tom B who=3D20
>> > was having this issue a while back.<BR>> C<BR>><BR>> "Neil" =3D
>> ><<A=3D20
>> > href=3D3D"mailto:IOUOI@OI.com">IOUOI@OI.com</A>> wrote:<BR>> =3D
>> >><BR>>=3D20
>> > >"DJ" <<A =3D
>> >href=3D3D"mailto:nowayjose@dude.net">nowayjose@dude.net</A>>=3D20
>> > wrote:<BR>> >>Of course, since I had a $100.00 credit from =3D
>> >way back=3D20
>> > when I bought<BR>another<BR>> >>card and I got the $149.00 =3D
>> >discount=3D20
>> > coupon because I had previously<BR>> >>purchased the 1073, I =3D
>> >now own=3D20
>> > both of these, otherwise I'd be.....well,<BR>> >you =3D
>> >know.<BR>>=3D20
>> > ><BR>> >Needing to die?<BR>> ><BR>>=3D20
>> >>:)<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
>> ><DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
>>spam, =3D
>> >and=3D20
>> >you?<BR><A=3D20
>> =
>>>href=3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
>>fer=3D
>> >.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
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>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
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>><STYLE></STYLE>
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>><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for the correction Rod.  =
>>It's never=20
>>easy is it.</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If you have a chart on all those =
>>latencies I'd find=20
>>it</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>very useful.  I still use the =
>>older one you=20
>>posted a</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>while back.</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>> <DIV>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g=
>>t;=20
>> wrote in message <A=20
>> =
>>href=3D"news:456aeaf0$1@linux">news:456aeaf0$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Tom,=
>> All=20
>> the old plugs are the same as they've always been.<BR>The Neve 1078 =
>>and 1081=20
>> (big versions)have the same latency wich you correctly<BR>repored. =
>>Your=20
>> correct on the 60933. The light versions of the Neve plugs<BR>have the
>=
>>same=20
>> latecny as all the old plugs. All the Prec. Plugs have =
>>more<BR>latency, and=20
>> they're all different, with the Multiband being about twice<BR>as=20
>> much.<BR><BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
>> href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
>> wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>For those that care,<BR>><BR>>My =
>>numbers=20
>> on UAD-1 ver 4.4 were:<BR>>44K Neve 60933 =3D3D 557ms, 64=20
>> samples<BR>><BR>>UAD-1 4.3 and before<BR>>44K =3D3D most =
>>plugs 365ms,=20
>> 12 samples (Pultec 3 samples)<BR>>Tom<BR>><BR>>  "DJ" =
>><<A=20
>> href=3D"mailto:nowayjose@dude.net">nowayjose@dude.net</A>> wrote in =
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>>message=20
>> <A =
>>href=3D"news:45628cda@linux">news:45628cda@linux</A>...<BR>>  =
>>Sorry=20
>> Chris.I think it changed (basically doubled) in v4.4=20
>> actually.<BR>><BR>>  Deej<BR>>  "cujo" <<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D"mailto:

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o.com" target="_blank">chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com">chris@nospamapplemanstudio=
>>.com</A>>=20
>> wrote in message<BR>>  <A=20
>> =
>>href=3D"news:455db889$1@linux">news:455db889$1@linux</A>...<BR>> =
>>=20
>> ><BR>>  ><BR>>  ><BR>>  > hey DJ, =
>>I know=20
>> you guys don;t care about this in your set up,<BR>>  > But =
>>did the=20
>> latency change in the newer UAD updates?<BR>>  > I think it =
>>was Tom=20
>> B who was having this issue a while back.<BR>>  > =
>>C<BR>> =20
>> ><BR>>  > "Neil" <<A=20
>> href=3D"mailto:IOUOI@OI.com">IOUOI@OI.com</A>> wrote:<BR>>  =
>>>=20
>> ><BR>>  > >"DJ" <<A=20
>> href=3D"mailto:nowayjose@dude.net">nowayjose@dude.net</A>>=20
>> wrote:<BR>>  > >>Of course, since I had a $100.00 =
>>credit from=20
>> way back when I =3D<BR>>bought<BR>>  another<BR>>  =
>>>=20
>> >>card and I got the $149.00 discount coupon because I had=20
>> =3D<BR>>previously<BR>>  > >>purchased the 1073, I =
>>now own=20
>> both of these, otherwise I'd =3D<BR>>be.....well,<BR>>  =
>>> >you=20
>> know.<BR>>  > ><BR>>  > >Needing to=20
>> die?<BR>>  > ><BR>>  >=20
>> >:)<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>I choose Polesoft =
>>Lockspam to=20
>> fight spam, and =
>>you?<BR>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html  =20
>> <BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=20
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D><BR>><META=20
>> http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html;=20
>> =3D<BR>>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =
>>content=3D3D"MSHTML=20
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>> =
>>name=3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=
>>D><BR>><BODY=20
>> bgColor=3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
>>size=3D3D2>For=20
>> those that care,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
>> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> =
>></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
>> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>My numbers on UAD-1 ver 4.4=20
>> =3D<BR>>were:</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
>> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>44K Neve 60933 =3D3D 557ms,=20
>> =
>>64=3D20<BR>>samples</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FON=
>>T=20
>> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> =
>></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
>> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>UAD-1 4.3 and=20
>> before</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>>face=3D3DArial=20
>> size=3D3D2>44K =3D3D most plugs 365ms, 12 samples =
>>=3D<BR>>(Pultec=20
>> =
>>3=3D20<BR>>samples)</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FON=
>>T=20
>> face=3D3DArial=20
>> size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
>> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
>> =
>></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20<BR>>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: =
>>0px;=20
>> PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 =
>>2px solid;=20
>> MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>>  <DIV>"DJ" <<A=20
>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D'mailto:nowayjose@dude.net">nowayjose@dude.net</A>>=3D20'>mailto:n=
>>owayjose@dude.net">nowayjose@dude.net</A>>=3D20</A><BR>>&n=
>>bsp;=20
>> wrote in message <A=3D20<BR>>  href=3D3D"<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D'news:45628cda@linux">news:45628cda@linux</A>...</DIV>Sorry'>news:=
>>45628cda@linux">news:45628cda@linux</A>...</DIV>Sorry</A> =
>>
>> =3D<BR>>Chris.I think=3D20<BR>>  it changed (basically =
>>doubled) in v4.4=20
>> =
>>actually.<BR><BR>Deej<BR>"cujo"<BR>=3D<BR>><<A=
>>=3D20<BR>> =20
>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D'mailto:chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com">chris@nospamapplemanstudio=
>>'>mailto:chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com">chris@nospamapplemanstudio</A=
>>>=3D<BR>>.com</A>>=3D20<BR>> =20
>> wrote in message<BR><A=3D20<BR>>  =
>>=3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D'news:455db889$1@linux">news:455db889$1@linux</A>...<BR>><BR>&=
>>g'>news:455db889$1@linux">news:455db889$1@linux</A>...<BR>=
>>><BR>&g</A>=3D<BR>>t;<BR>><BR>>=3D20<BR=
>>>> =20
>> hey DJ, I know you guys don;t care about this in your set =
>>up,<BR>>=20
>> =3D<BR>>But did=3D20<BR>>  the latency change in the newer =
>>UAD=20
>> updates?<BR>> I think it was =3D<BR>>Tom B =
>>who=3D20<BR>>  was=20
>> having this issue a while back.<BR>> =
>>C<BR>><BR>>=20
>> "Neil" =3D<BR>><<A=3D20<BR>>  href=3D3D"<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D'mailto:IOUOI@OI.com">IOUOI@OI.com</A'>mailto:IOUOI@OI.com">IOU=
>>OI@OI.com</A</A>>>=20
>> wrote:<BR>> =3D<BR>>><BR>>=3D20<BR>>  =
>>>"DJ"=20
>> <<A =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D'mailto:nowayjose@dude.net">nowayjose@dude.net</A>>=3D20'>mailto:n=
>>owayjose@dude.net">nowayjose@dude.net</A>>=3D20</A><BR>>&n=
>>bsp;=20
>> wrote:<BR>> >>Of course, since I had a $100.00 credit =
>>from=20
>> =3D<BR>>way back=3D20<BR>>  when I=20
>> bought<BR>another<BR>> >>card and I got the =
>>$149.00=20
>> =3D<BR>>discount=3D20<BR>>  coupon because I had=20
>> previously<BR>> >>purchased the 1073, I =3D<BR>>now=20
>> own=3D20<BR>>  both of these, otherwise I'd =
>>be.....well,<BR>>=20
>> >you =3D<BR>>know.<BR>>=3D20<BR>>  =
>>><BR>>=20
>> >Needing to die?<BR>>=20
>> =
>>><BR>>=3D20<BR>>>:)<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE&=
>>gt;<BR>><DIV><FONT=20
>> size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
>>spam,=20
>> =
>>=3D<BR>>and=3D20<BR>>you?<BR><A=3D20<BR>>href=3D3D "<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
>>'>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer</A=
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>> =
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>>BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
>>
>>the power is on and i also checked all cables. i tried it w/ the MEC off as
a test and the same thing came up - i'm going to open the box and reseat
the card, to see if that does anything.

"Cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote:
>
>
>Is this the one when your Interfaces are not plgged in or MEC turned off?
>
>
>"lucio" <yo@kingtone.com> wrote:
>>
>>hi all,
>>
>>It's been a while since I posted here...I've only sporadically used my
PARIS
>>rig in the past couple years (1 card/MEC/24-8 in/out on a dedicated MAC
>G4
>>Quicksilver). Never had problems before, but today PARIS won't boot up.
>>
>>I get a 'Error initializing PARIS Engine Error code -43/ffffffd5
>>
>>Tried replacing config file, reinstalled PARIS on another drive, cleaned
>>things up, etc all with the same problem. Help!This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

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Rod,
That is very cool of you.
Tom

"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nosam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message =
news:456c8250$1@linux...

Nothing changed. The newer Neve (1081 and 60933) weren't available =
before
4.4. The Neve 1078 was on 4.3. It's the same as always..which is more =
latency
than the "normal" UAD plugs. I'm at another sudio right now =
(twiddling my
thumbs, I did all my tracks last night in paris, and brought files =
in.) so
I don't have access to the list, but I'll try to get it posted when I =
get
home.
Rod
"Cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote:
>
>
>hmm, so let me get this straight,
>Only the newer NEVE plugs changed in 4.4?
>Have a list of your nudge and sample slide values?
>Thank you so much.
>
>
>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Thanks for the correction Rod. It's never easy is it.
>>
>>If you have a chart on all those latencies I'd find it
>>very useful. I still use the older one you posted a
>>while back.
>>Tom
>>
>>
>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message =3D
>>news:456aeaf0$1@linux...
>>
>> Tom, All the old plugs are the same as they've always been.
>> The Neve 1078 and 1081 (big versions)have the same latency wich =
you =3D
>>correctly
>> repored. Your correct on the 60933. The light versions of the Neve =
=3D
>>plugs
>> have the same latecny as all the old plugs. All the Prec. Plugs =
have
=3D
>>more
>> latency, and they're all different, with the Multiband being about =
=3D
>>twice
>> as much.
>>
>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >For those that care,
>> >
>> >My numbers on UAD-1 ver 4.4 were:
>> >44K Neve 60933 =3D3D3D 557ms, 64 samples
>> >
>> >UAD-1 4.3 and before
>> >44K =3D3D3D most plugs 365ms, 12 samples (Pultec 3 samples)
>> >Tom
>> >
>> > "DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote in message =
news:45628cda@linux...
>> > Sorry Chris.I think it changed (basically doubled) in v4.4 =3D
>>actually.
>> >
>> > Deej
>> > "cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote in message
>> > news:455db889$1@linux...
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > hey DJ, I know you guys don;t care about this in your set up,
>> > > But did the latency change in the newer UAD updates?
>> > > I think it was Tom B who was having this issue a while back.
>> > > C
>> > >
>> > > "Neil" <IOUOI@OI.com> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >"DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
>> > > >>Of course, since I had a $100.00 credit from way back when =
I =3D
>>=3D3D
>> >bought
>> > another
>> > > >>card and I got the $149.00 discount coupon because I had =
=3D3D
>> >previously
>> > > >>purchased the 1073, I now own both of these, otherwise I'd =
=3D3D
>> >be.....well,
>> > > >you know.
>> > > >
>> > > >Needing to die?
>> > > >
>> > > >:)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>> >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =3D20
>> >
>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>> ><HTML><HEAD>
>> ><META http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html; =
=3D3D
>> >charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1">
>> ><META content=3D3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3D3D3DGENERATOR>
>> ><STYLE></STYLE>
>> ></HEAD>
>> ><BODY bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>For those that =3D
>>care,</FONT></DIV>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>My numbers on UAD-1 ver =
4.4 =3D3D
>> >were:</FONT></DIV>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>44K Neve 60933 =3D3D3D =
557ms, =3D
>>64=3D3D20
>> >samples</FONT></DIV>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>UAD-1 4.3 and =3D
>>before</FONT></DIV>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>44K =3D3D3D most plugs =
365ms, 12
=3D
>>samples =3D3D
>> >(Pultec 3=3D3D20
>> >samples)</FONT></DIV>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20
>> >style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
5px;
=3D
>>=3D3D
>> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>> > <DIV>"DJ" <<A =3D3D
>> =
>href=3D3D3D"mailto:nowayjose@dude.net">nowayjose@dude.net</A>>=3D3D20
>> > wrote in message <A=3D3D20
>> > =3D
=
>>href=3D3D3D"news:45628cda@linux">news:45628cda@linux</A>...</DIV>Sorry =
=3D3D
>> >Chris.I think=3D3D20
>> > it changed (basically doubled) in v4.4 =3D
>>actually.<BR><BR>Deej<BR>"cujo"
>> =3D3D
>> ><<A=3D3D20
>> > =3D3D
>> =3D
=
>>>href=3D3D3D"mailto:chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com">chris@nospamapplema=
nstu=3D
>>dio=3D3D
>> >.com</A>>=3D3D20
>> > wrote in message<BR><A=3D3D20
>> > =3D3D
>> =3D
=
>>>href=3D3D3D"news:455db889$1@linux">news:455db889$1@linux</A>...<BR>><B=
R>&g=3D
>>=3D3D
>> >t;<BR>><BR>>=3D3D20
>> > hey DJ, I know you guys don;t care about this in your set =
up,<BR>>
>=3D
>>=3D3D
>> >But did=3D3D20
>> > the latency change in the newer UAD updates?<BR>> I think it =
was =3D
>>=3D3D
>> >Tom B who=3D3D20
>> > was having this issue a while back.<BR>> C<BR>><BR>> "Neil" =
=3D3D
>> ><<A=3D3D20
>> > href=3D3D3D"mailto:IOUOI@OI.com">IOUOI@OI.com</A>> wrote:<BR>> =
=3D3D
>> >><BR>>=3D3D20
>> > >"DJ" <<A =3D3D
>> =
>href=3D3D3D"mailto:nowayjose@dude.net">nowayjose@dude.net</A>>=3D3D20
>> > wrote:<BR>> >>Of course, since I had a $100.00 credit from =
=3D3D
>> >way back=3D3D20
>> > when I bought<BR>another<BR>> >>card and I got the $149.00 =
=3D3D
>> >discount=3D3D20
>> > coupon because I had previously<BR>> >>purchased the 1073, I =
=3D3D
>> >now own=3D3D20
>> > both of these, otherwise I'd be.....well,<BR>> >you =3D3D
>> >know.<BR>>=3D3D20
>> > ><BR>> >Needing to die?<BR>> ><BR>>=3D3D20
>> >>:)<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
>> ><DIV><FONT size=3D3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to =
fight =3D
>>spam, =3D3D
>> >and=3D3D20
>> >you?<BR><A=3D3D20
>> =3D
=
>>>href=3D3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.co=
m/re=3D
>>fer=3D3D
>> >.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>> >
>> >
>>
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>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
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>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Thanks for the correction Rod. =
=3D
>>It's never=3D20
>>easy is it.</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>If you have a chart on all =
those =3D
>>latencies I'd find=3D20
>>it</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>very useful. I still use the =
=3D
>>older one you=3D20
>>posted a</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>while back.</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
>>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
=3D
>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>> <DIV>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=3D20
>> =3D
=
>>href=3D3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</=
A>&g=3D
>>t;=3D20
>> wrote in message <A=3D20
>> =3D
=
>>href=3D3D"news:456aeaf0$1@linux">news:456aeaf0$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>=
Tom,=3D
>> All=3D20
>> the old plugs are the same as they've always been.<BR>The Neve =
1078 =3D
>>and 1081=3D20
>> (big versions)have the same latency wich you correctly<BR>repored. =
=3D
>>Your=3D20
>> correct on the 60933. The light versions of the Neve plugs<BR>have =
the
>=3D
>>same=3D20
>> latecny as all the old plugs. All the Prec. Plugs have =3D
>>more<BR>latency, and=3D20
>> they're all different, with the Multiband being about =
twice<BR>as=3D20
>> much.<BR><BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
>> =
href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20
>> wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>For those that care,<BR>><BR>>My =3D
>>numbers=3D20
>> on UAD-1 ver 4.4 were:<BR>>44K Neve 60933 =3D3D3D 557ms, 64=3D20
>> samples<BR>><BR>>UAD-1 4.3 and before<BR>>44K =3D3D3D most =3D
>>plugs 365ms,=3D20
>> 12 samples (Pultec 3 samples)<BR>>Tom<BR>><BR>> "DJ" =3D
>><<A=3D20
>> href=3D3D"mailto:nowayjose@dude.net">nowayjose@dude.net</A>> wrote =
in =3D
>>message=3D20
>> <A =3D
>>href=3D3D"news:45628cda@linux">news:45628cda@linux</A>...<BR>> =3D
>>Sorry=3D20
>> Chris.I think it changed (basically doubled) in v4.4=3D20
>> actually.<BR>><BR>> Deej<BR>> "cujo" <<A=3D20
>> =3D
=
>>href=3D3D"mailto:chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com">chris@nospamapplemanst=
udio=3D
>>.com</A>>=3D20
>> wrote in message<BR>> <A=3D20
>> =3D
>>href=3D3D"news:455db889$1@linux">news:455db889$1@linux</A>...<BR>> =
=3D
>>=3D20
>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > hey DJ, =3D
>>I know=3D20
>> you guys don;t care about this in your set up,<BR>> > But =3D
>>did the=3D20
>> latency change in the newer UAD updates?<BR>> > I think it =3D
>>was Tom=3D20
>> B who was having this issue a while back.<BR>> > =3D
>>C<BR>> =3D20
>> ><BR>> > "Neil" <<A=3D20
>> href=3D3D"mailto:IOUOI@OI.com">IOUOI@OI.com</A>> wrote:<BR>> =3D
>>>=3D20
>> ><BR>> > >"DJ" <<A=3D20
>> href=3D3D"mailto:nowayjose@dude.net">nowayjose@dude.net</A>>=3D20
>> wrote:<BR>> > >>Of course, since I had a $100.00 =3D
>>credit from=3D20
>> way back when I =3D3D<BR>>bought<BR>> another<BR>> =3D
>>>=3D20
>> >>card and I got the $149.00 discount coupon because I had=3D20
>> =3D3D<BR>>previously<BR>> > >>purchased the 1073, I =3D
>>now own=3D20
>> both of these, otherwise I'd =3D3D<BR>>be.....well,<BR>> =3D
>>> >you=3D20
>> know.<BR>> > ><BR>> > >Needing to=3D20
>> die?<BR>> > ><BR>> >=3D20
>> >:)<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>I choose Polesoft =3D
>>Lockspam to=3D20
>> fight spam, and =3D
>>you?<BR>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =3D20
>> <BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=3D20
>> Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=3D20
>> http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html;=3D20
>> =3D3D<BR>>charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =3D
>>content=3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D20
>> 6.00.2800.1400"=3D20
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>>name=3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=3D
>>D><BR>><BODY=3D20
>> bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =3D
>>size=3D3D3D2>For=3D20
>> those that care,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
>> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =3D
>></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
>> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>My numbers on UAD-1 ver 4.4=3D20
>> =3D3D<BR>>were:</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
>> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>44K Neve 60933 =3D3D3D 557ms,=3D20
>> =3D
>>64=3D3D20<BR>>samples</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FON=3D
>>T=3D20
>> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =3D
>></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
>> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>UAD-1 4.3 and=3D20
>> before</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
>> size=3D3D3D2>44K =3D3D3D most plugs 365ms, 12 samples =3D
>>=3D3D<BR>>(Pultec=3D20
>> =3D
>>3=3D3D20<BR>>samples)</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FON=3D
>>T=3D20
>> face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
>> size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
>> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D20
>> =3D
>></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20<BR>>style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: =3D
>>0px;=3D20
>> PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: =
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>> MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"DJ" <<A=3D20
>> =3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
>> =3D
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>>href=3D3D'mailto:nowayjose@dude.net">nowayjose@dude.net</A>>=3D3D20'>ma=
ilto:n=3D
>>owayjose@dude.net">nowayjose@dude.net</A>>=3D3D20</A><BR>>&n=3D
>>bsp;=3D20
>> wrote in message <A=3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
>> =3D
=
>>href=3D3D'news:45628cda@linux">news:45628cda@linux</A>...</DIV>Sorry'>n=
ews:=3D
>>45628cda@linux">news:45628cda@linux</A>...</DIV>Sorry</A> =3D
>>
>> =3D3D<BR>>Chris.I think=3D3D20<BR>> it changed (basically =3D
>>doubled) in v4.4=3D20
>> =3D
>>actually.<BR><BR>Deej<BR>"cujo"<BR>=3D3D<BR>><<A=3D
>>=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
>> =3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
>> =3D
=
>>href=3D3D'mailto:chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com">chris@nospamapplemanst=
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>>'>mailto:chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com">chris@nospamapplemanstudio</A=3D=

>>>=3D3D<BR>>.com</A>>=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
>> wrote in message<BR><A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>>=3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
>> =3D
=
>>href=3D3D'news:455db889$1@linux">news:455db889$1@linux</A>...<BR>><BR>&=
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>>><BR>&g</A>=3D3D<BR>>t;<BR>><BR>>=3D3D20<BR=3D
>>>> =3D20
>> hey DJ, I know you guys don;t care about this in your set =3D
>>up,<BR>>=3D20
>> =3D3D<BR>>But did=3D3D20<BR>> the latency change in the newer =3D
>>UAD=3D20
>> updates?<BR>> I think it was =3D3D<BR>>Tom B =3D
>>who=3D3D20<BR>> was=3D20
>> having this issue a while back.<BR>> =3D
>>C<BR>><BR>>=3D20
>> "Neil" =3D3D<BR>><<A=3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
>> =3D
=
>>href=3D3D'mailto:IOUOI@OI.com">IOUOI@OI.com</A'>mailto:IOUOI@OI.com">IO=
U=3D
>>OI@OI.com</A</A>>>=3D20
>> wrote:<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>><BR>>=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>>>"DJ"=3D20
>> <<A =3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
>> =3D
=
>>href=3D3D'mailto:nowayjose@dude.net">nowayjose@dude.net</A>>=3D3D20'>ma=
ilto:n=3D
>>owayjose@dude.net">nowayjose@dude.net</A>>=3D3D20</A><BR>>&n=3D
>>bsp;=3D20
>> wrote:<BR>> >>Of course, since I had a $100.00 credit =3D
>>from=3D20
>> =3D3D<BR>>way back=3D3D20<BR>> when I=3D20
>> bought<BR>another<BR>> >>card and I got the =3D
>>$149.00=3D20
>> =3D3D<BR>>discount=3D3D20<BR>> coupon because I had=3D20
>> previously<BR>> >>purchased the 1073, I =3D3D<BR>>now=3D20
>> own=3D3D20<BR>> both of these, otherwise I'd =3D
>>be.....well,<BR>>=3D20
>> >you =3D3D<BR>>know.<BR>>=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>>><BR>>=3D20
>> >Needing to die?<BR>>=3D20
>> =3D
>>><BR>>=3D3D20<BR>>>:)<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE&=3D
>>gt;<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
>> size=3D3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =3D
>>spam,=3D20
>> =3D
>>=3D3D<BR>>and=3D3D20<BR>>you?<BR><A=3D3D20<BR>>href=3D3D3D "<A=3D20
>> =3D
=
>>href=3D3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/r=
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>>'>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer</A=3D=

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>> =3D
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rod,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>That is very cool of you.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Rod Lincoln" &lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nosam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nosam.kc.rr.com</A>&gt;=
wrote=20
in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:456c8250$1@linux">news:456c8250$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Noth=
ing=20
changed. The newer Neve (1081 and 60933) weren't available =
before<BR>4.4. The=20
Neve 1078 was on 4.3. It's the same as always..which is more =
latency<BR>than=20
the "normal" UAD&nbsp; plugs. I'm at another sudio right now =
(twiddling=20
my<BR>thumbs, I did all my tracks last night in paris, and brought =
files in.)=20
so<BR>I don't have access to the list, but I'll try to get it posted =
when I=20
get<BR>&nbsp;home.<BR>Rod<BR>"Cujo" &lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com">chris@nospamapplemanstudio=
..com</A>&gt;=20
wrote:<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;hmm, so let me get this =
straight,<BR>&gt;Only=20
the newer NEVE plugs changed in 4.4?<BR>&gt;Have a list of your nudge =
and=20
sample slide values?<BR>&gt;Thank you so =
much.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;"Tom=20
Bruhl" &lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>&gt;=20
wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;Thanks for the correction =
Rod.&nbsp;=20
It's never easy is it.<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;If you have a chart on =
all those=20
latencies I'd find it<BR>&gt;&gt;very useful.&nbsp; I still use the =
older one=20
you posted a<BR>&gt;&gt;while=20
back.<BR>&gt;&gt;Tom<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp; "Rod =
Lincoln"=20
&lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g=
t;=20
wrote in message=20
=3D<BR>&gt;&gt;news:456aeaf0$1@linux...<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp; =
Tom, All=20
the old plugs are the same as they've always been.<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp; =
The Neve=20
1078 and 1081 (big versions)have the same latency wich you=20
=3D<BR>&gt;&gt;correctly<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp; repored. Your correct on =
the 60933.=20
The light versions of the Neve =3D<BR>&gt;&gt;plugs<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp; =
have the=20
same latecny as all the old plugs. All the Prec. Plugs=20
have<BR>=3D<BR>&gt;&gt;more<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp; latency, and they're all =

different, with the Multiband being about =
=3D<BR>&gt;&gt;twice<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;=20
as much.<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp; "Tom Bruhl" &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>&gt;=20
wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp; =
&gt;For=20
those that care,<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt;My =
numbers on=20
UAD-1 ver 4.4 were:<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt;44K Neve 60933 =3D3D3D =
557ms, 64=20
samples<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt;UAD-1 4.3 and=20
before<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt;44K =3D3D3D most plugs 365ms, 12 samples =
(Pultec 3=20
samples)<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt;Tom<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp; =
&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;&nbsp; "DJ" &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:nowayjose@dude.net">nowayjose@dude.net</A>&gt; wrote in =
message=20
<A =
href=3D"news:45628cda@linux">news:45628cda@linux</A>...<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;=
=20
&gt;&nbsp; Sorry Chris.I think it changed (basically doubled) in v4.4=20
=3D<BR>&gt;&gt;actually.<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;=20
Deej<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; "cujo" &lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com">chris@nospamapplemanstudio=
..com</A>&gt;=20
wrote in message<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; <A=20
=
href=3D"news:455db889$1@linux">news:455db889$1@linux</A>...<BR>&gt;&gt;&n=
bsp;=20
&gt;&nbsp; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; &gt; hey DJ, I know you guys don;t =
care=20
about this in your set up,<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; &gt; But did =
the=20
latency change in the newer UAD updates?<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; =
&gt; I=20
think it was Tom B who was having this issue a while =
back.<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;&nbsp; &gt; C<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;&nbsp; &gt; "Neil" &lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:IOUOI@OI.com">IOUOI@OI.com</A>&gt;=20
wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt; &gt;"DJ" &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:nowayjose@dude.net">nowayjose@dude.net</A>&gt;=20
wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; &gt; &gt;&gt;Of course, since I =
had a=20
$100.00 credit from way back when I =
=3D<BR>&gt;&gt;=3D3D<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;bought<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; another<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt; &gt;&gt;card and I got the $149.00 discount coupon because I had=20
=3D3D<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt;previously<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; =
&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;purchased the 1073, I now own both of these, otherwise I'd=20
=3D3D<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt;be.....well,<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; =
&gt;=20
&gt;you know.<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp; =

&gt;&nbsp; &gt; &gt;Needing to die?<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; &gt;=20
&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; &gt; &gt;:)<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt;I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, =
and=20
you?<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &gt;http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html&nbsp;=20
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Re: message from democrats [message #75736 is a reply to message #75730] Thu, 09 November 2006 12:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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&lt;BR&gt;Tom</A>,=3D<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
All=3D20<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp; the old plugs are the same as they've =
always=20
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care,&lt;BR&gt;&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&gt;My =
=3D<BR>&gt;&gt;numbers=3D20<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;=20
on UAD-1 ver 4.4 were:&lt;BR&gt;&gt;44K Neve 60933 =3D3D3D 557ms,=20
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=3D<BR>&gt;&gt;Sorry=3D20<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp; Chris.I think it changed =
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=
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owayjose@dude.net"&gt;
Re: message from democrats [message #75737 is a reply to message #75718] Thu, 09 November 2006 13:31 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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ref="mailto:nowayjose@dude.net" target="_blank">nowayjose@dude.net&lt;/A&gt;&gt;=3D20</A><BR>&gt;&g=
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