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Deej [1] is currently offline  Deej [1]   UNITED STATES
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/> www.plasq.com
There is a great forum in there to read posts about wormhole.
Latency is dependant on your buffer sizes and your host sending latency
Re: They're heeeeeerrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeee !!!!!!!!!!!!! [message #58711 is a reply to message #58710] Mon, 03 October 2005 12:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deej [1] is currently offline  Deej [1]   UNITED STATES
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.
Cubase has automatic latency compensation so for me 4000-5000 samples buffer
inside Paris is adequate for 16-24 channels.
You don't care for extra altency from within cubase because the latency compensation
takes care of that.
I am syncing overlan to with midi overlan so when I hit play on Paris cubase
follows in sync over lan...
100MB Lan is adequate for 24 channels of wormholed tracks.
Regards,
Dimitrios



"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>What is the latency like on a Mac with wormhole? Where can I get FXpansion
>3.3 and multifxvst?
>
>Are multifxvst and FXpansion 3.3 necessary for low latency with Wormhole?
> Are they free? Is the
Re: They're heeeeeerrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeee !!!!!!!!!!!!! [message #58712 is a reply to message #58710] Mon, 03 October 2005 12:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JeffH is currently offline  JeffH   UNITED STATES
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re a Mac version?
>
>Thanks
>James
>
>
>
>"genelennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>>
>>"Tony Benson" <t o n

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EK Sound is currently offline  EK Sound   CANADA
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to:y@s" target="_blank">y@s t a n d i n g h a m p t o n.c o m> wrote:
>>>I don't suppose there is any hope of a Mac Wormhole. If I was running
a
>>PC
>>>I'd buy. Sorry.
>>>
>>>Tony
>>>
>>You get both a Mac an
Re: They're heeeeeerrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeee !!!!!!!!!!!!! [message #58714 is a reply to message #58712] Mon, 03 October 2005 13:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Neil is currently offline  Neil
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d a PC copy. I use it for both and frequently cross-platform.
>>gnot to worry my friend, sometimes even i don't get my own jokes.

;o)

On 30 Oct 2005 20:21:01 +1000, "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:

>
>Hi,
>First of all sorry to Rick and the rest of you.
>I didn't catch it
Re: They're heeeeeerrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeee !!!!!!!!!!!!! [message #58716 is a reply to message #58713] Mon, 03 October 2005 14:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deej [1] is currently offline  Deej [1]   UNITED STATES
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okes (I guess)
>Secondly.
>You need ONLY Fxpansion 3.3 to have wormhole work with Paris.
>No multifxvst, this is for UAD1 lowest latency possible...
>YES it works with Mac and here is a list of working OS
>
>
> List of working hosts - 2005/06/23 10:41
>This is a list of VST/AU hosts which are known to work with plasq.com - Wormhole2.
>(sync ok) means the respective hosts feeds accurate sample position information
>to WH2 thus making the sync feature usable in that host.
>
>Mac OS X
>
>(- OSX 10.3)
>(- OSX 10.4)
>
>- Logic 6 / Logic 7 / Logic 7.1 (sync ok)
Re: They're heeeeeerrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeee !!!!!!!!!!!!! [message #58718 is a reply to message #58712] Mon, 03 October 2005 15:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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br /> >- Nicecast
>- Waveburner
>- Nuendo 2 (sync ok)
>- Plogue Bidule (sync ok)
>
>Win
>
>- Windows XP
>
>- Cubase VST 5 (sync ok)
>- VSTHost (sync ok)
>- Ableton Live 4 (sync half-ok, same problems as on mac)
>- Samplitude 8.0 on Win 2K (sync ok)
>- Sound Forge 8 (sync not working)
>- VStack
>- Chainer (sync ok)
>
>So for anyone interested wormhole's site is
>www.plasq.com
>There is a great forum in there to
Re: They're heeeeeerrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeee !!!!!!!!!!!!! [message #58719 is a reply to message #58718] Mon, 03 October 2005 15:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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read posts about wormhole.
>Latency is dependant on your buffer sizes and your host sending latency .
>Cubase has automatic latency compensation so for me 4000-5000 samples buffer
>inside Paris is adequate for 16-24 channels.
>You don't care for extra altency from within cubase because the latency compensation
>takes care of that.
>I am syncing overlan to with midi overlan so when I hit play on Paris cubase
>follows in sync over lan...
>100MB Lan is adequate for 24 channels of wormholed tracks.
>Regards,
>Dimitrios
>
>
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>What is the latency like on a Mac with wormhole? Where can I get FXpansion
>>3.3 and multifxvst?
>>
>>
Re: They're heeeeeerrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeee !!!!!!!!!!!!! [message #58720 is a reply to message #58710] Mon, 03 October 2005 16:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kim is currently offline  Kim
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Are multifxvst and FXpansion 3.3 necessary for low latency with Wormhole?
>> Are they free? Is there a Mac version?
>>
>>Thanks
>>James
>>
>>
>>
>>"genelennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>"Tony Benson" <t o n y@s t a
Re: They're heeeeeerrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeee !!!!!!!!!!!!! [message #58721 is a reply to message #58719] Mon, 03 October 2005 16:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Martin Harrington is currently offline  Martin Harrington   AUSTRALIA
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n d i n g h a m p t o n.c o m> wrote:
>>>>I don't suppose there is any hope of a Mac Wormhole. If I was running
>a
>>>PC
>>>>I'd buy. Sorry.
>>>>
>>>>Tony
>>>>
>>>You get both a Mac and a PC copy. I use it for both and frequently cross-platform.
>>>gsorry gene, friends are hard to lose.

On 30 Oct 2005 05:32:13 +1000, "gene lennon"
<glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:

>
>Dave Townsend died this week in California. Dave was best know as the guitar
>player in the platinum R&B group "surface", but Dave was also a talented
>session musician, songwriter and producer. I co-wrote and co-produced several
>tracks with Dave over the years.
>Dave was a quiet person and a true gentleman, and he will be missed.
>He was 50 years old.
>Dave's father, (Ed Townsend) was also a well know songwriter who's songs
>included Marvin Gaye's 'Let's Get It On.'
>Dave collaborated with many Paris owners in the last few years, including
>myself, David “Pic” Conley (also from Surface), Thurman Phillips, and Joshua
>Thompson. He was a big believer in the “Paris sound.”
>GeneHi,
Don't worry about this just let me know by posting here who have bought it
from www.plasq.com and I will personally email him with your names !
Regards,
Dimitrios



"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@kc.rr.co
Re: They're heeeeeerrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeee !!!!!!!!!!!!! [message #58731 is a reply to message #58720] Tue, 04 October 2005 06:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gene lennon is currently offline  gene lennon
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hould get. What I found was that these things took Paris' eq=20
>> >>sweetly. The esses didn't go over the edge and tone was smooth
>> >>as silk. I did use La2a's across them at mixdown though. The eggs
>> >>recorded nicely and again sounded natural. One on each side of the
mic.
>> >=
>> >>=20
>> >>
>> >>These are the first ribbons I've used except for some Beyer M160s way
=
>> >>back.
>> >>These are floating my boat right now. I think they will rock on brass
>> =
>> >>and=20
>> >>crunch guitar. I'll find out about that when a 7 horn band comes in
=
>> >>soon.
>> >>They needed
Re: They're heeeeeerrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeee !!!!!!!!!!!!! [message #58734 is a reply to message #58731] Tue, 04 October 2005 08:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deej [1] is currently offline  Deej [1]   UNITED STATES
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>> >>the R121s etc. The Lundahls are supposed to give them more clarity
=
>> >>across the board.
>> >>Natural is what I call them. Not a bad choice if your looking for =
>> >>ribbons.
>> >>
>> >>Thanks to John Macy for turning us on to them. Jon, the owner of Shiny
>> =
>> >>Box
>> >>was very helpful throughout the buying process. He also took great
care
>> >=
>> >>in first
>> >>matching mics then matching transformers then matching the mics =
>> >>w/transformers.
>> >>Painstaking I would say. I know it took him at least a day or so.
>> >>Tom
>> >>
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Re: They're heeeeeerrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeee !!!!!!!!!!!!! [message #58742 is a reply to message #58741] Tue, 04 October 2005 13:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deej [1] is currently offline  Deej [1]   UNITED STATES
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gt;>
>> >>
>> >
>
>
>I've found with software less is almost always more. I went through my plug
in craze phase.. ironically, I suspect phase and calculations are what
muddied up the mix. I know that we as an industry are in trouble when every
year, or less, we have to evaluate our tools and think we need something
new. I'm all down with improvement, but if things are growing 'that' fast,
then maybe we should have a look at what are we really using to begin with.
Change can't generally happen that quickly and be for the long term good.
Computers are a funny beast man.
AA

"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:43651390@linux...
> Ya know............Im sitting here listening to some *roughs* of a
> tracking
> session I did Friday night. No compression, a very tiny bit of subtractive
> EQ, a tiny touch of NoLimit on the mix bus. That's it. The rest of the
> story
> is using the Paris EQ makeup gain and the fader gain stages to get the
> *mixphat thing going*.
>
> I swear guys.......this sounds better to my ears than all of the 1,000,000
> gobazzillion plugin options I have available when using the SX rig during
> mixdown.
>
> It's pretty minimalist stuff to begin with......acoustic rythym guitar,
> acoustic lead guitar, fiddle, electric bass and acoustic drum
> kit........but
> that seems to be all I do these days anyway.
>
> Sometimes less is truly more.
>
> Deej
>
>I do not use plugins, and haven't for years. They do not sound as good as
high-quality outboard equipment, not on any level, and that's putting it
very politely. I am shocked that companies like Waves make any money at all
selling those kinds of products.

Paris is amazing, but I use it's EQ sparingly at most. Ulitmately, for me,
it's a glorified tape
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sound that=20
only a condensor<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;should get. What I found was that =
these=20
things took Paris' eq=3D20<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;sweetly.&nbsp; The =
esses didn't=20
go over the edge and tone was smooth<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;as =
silk.&nbsp; I did=20
use La2a's across them at mixdown though.&nbsp; The eggs<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;recorded nicely and again sounded natural.&nbsp; One on each =
side of=20
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&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;These are the first ribbons I've used =
except for=20
some Beyer M160s way<BR>=3D<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;back.<BR>&gt;&gt; =
&gt;&gt;These=20
are floating my boat right now.&nbsp; I think they will rock on=20
brass<BR>&gt;&gt; =3D<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;and=3D20<BR>&gt;&gt; =
&gt;&gt;crunch=20
guitar.&nbsp; I'll find out about that when a 7 horn band comes=20
in<BR>=3D<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;soon.<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;They needed a =
lot of=20
gain.&nbsp; I was afraid to get any closer than =
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&gt;=3D<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;from them.<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;Delicate =
little=20
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stopper<BR>for<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;=3D<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;safety<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;which darkens =
the sound a=20
bit too.=3D20<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;At $700 or so =
for the=20
matched pair.I think this is quite a bargain =3D<BR>&gt;&gt; =
&gt;&gt;compared=20
to=3D20<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;the R121s etc.&nbsp; The Lundahls are =
supposed to=20
give them more clarity<BR>=3D<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;across the =
board.<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;&gt;Natural is what I call them.&nbsp; Not a bad choice if your =
looking=20
for =3D<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;ribbons.<BR>&gt;&am
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