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| Auto-Tune vs. Melodyne - some observations [message #88365] |
Fri, 20 July 2007 18:24  |
Neil
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;is starting to fade. TG for TheSoniq, I guess.</FONT></DIV>
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> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Deej</FONT></DIV>
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> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>3 bad =
>mecs.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hmmm?</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'll know for a fact =
>next Tuesday =3D
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> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>time to test a couple
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> > <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'll also toss out an edumacated guess
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Say Tom, have you called The Soniq =
>about repairing=20
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| Re: Auto-Tune vs. Melodyne - some observations [message #88380 is a reply to message #88379] |
Fri, 20 July 2007 20:39  |
Neil
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Ah, I see... well, you know what you really need, then? One of
these:
http://mercenary.com/toaudeatbbch.html
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/ATB16/It IS a CPU pig. I may still have a version of that somewhere,
tho... i'll check & see. I had forgotten that it went up to
30k.
Neil
Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>That is my favorite EQ by a country mile. A giant resource hog at the
>high quality settings. You won't believe how sweet it sounds, though. It
>is the only digital EQ I really love.
>
>Graham Duncan wrote:
>> http://www.refinedaudiometrics.com/products-plpareq.shtml
>>
>> This goes to 30khz. They have a cheaper 3-band version as well.
>>
>> Graham
>>
>> Neil wrote:
>>> Does anyone know of an EQ plugin that can go up to 32khz (a la'
>>> the Massenburg hardware units)? I'm experimenting with
>>> something & need an EQ plug that can boost or cut up in that
>>> range.
>>> TIA.
>>>
>>> NeilAaron Allen wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com>
> Newsgroups: IDEA.EMUEnsoniqPARIS
> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 2:10 AM
> Subject: Re: Lights out, the party's over
>> Those are American DJ PAR 64 LED cans. That company has since come out
>> with their upgraded PAR 64 PRO cans which are brighter. Other suppliers on
>> Ebay have similar 10mm LED models for a bit less $.
>> BTW, which LED lights did you test? And how long ago?
>
> These are the ones (ADJ's) I looked at in the local GC I believe.. no name
> present I could see.... probably a month or less ago again. Found them to be
> absolutely not adequate for our stage show, but the current band uses a
> pretty large production scale for local clubbing.
I don't know if GC carries the newer, brighter version yet. It would be
labelled "American DJ PAR 64 PRO."
>> Fixtures with the larger Luxeon 1 and 3 watt LEDs are also appearing for
>> more $$$. There are even LED kits to upgrade old PAR cans to LED.
>>
>
> This might be more to my liking, but probably only for washing from what
> I've seen.
Yeah, not too good for drying, due to low heat output. ;^)
>> From what I've seen so far, brightness/power varies by the model. Some are
>> wide and some are narrow. Some have more defined edges than others. You
>> can add diffusion filters to narrow ones if you need more of a wash. There
>> are LED rain lights and FX lights that do tight beams. A lot of the better
>> lights have been introduced in the last year or so, some in the last few
>> months.
>>
> I'd be interested to see specs/pics/demo the narrow LEDs. I know that LED's
> are capable of better than what I saw, being a geek I sub'd to a magazine
> strictly on LED tech and it was pretty fascinating stuff.
Cool! LED tech seems to be moving forward relatively quickly.
>> Older lights with gels work fine, though they are limited to a smaller
>> color palette, put out way more heat, need dimmer packs, and have the
>> additional long term costs of replacing bulbs and gels, and eating
>> significantly more electricity.
>
> Couldn't the same be said of tube amps, basically?
Sure. FWIW, I don't gig with my tube rig any more.
>> It seems to me that LEDs are the future of stage lighting. They offer a
>> lot of advantages: low power consumption, low heat output, color changing
>> flexibility, simple setup, direct DMX control w/o dimmer packs, no gel
>> costs, no bulb replacement costs, and the possibility of having fewer
>> fixtures that do more. In the last year or so they've started becoming
>> bright enough to consider. It's still a bit cutting edge but I like to
>> geek out on new tech, so these are exciting times...
>
> Much as I love geekin' out as well, I don't think LED's are quite the future
> of professional band lighting -
> however they'll have a place in the future almost certainly. They're not
> bright enough and not directional enough.
Of the ones you've seen so far. But there may be others that are. If
not, it may just be a matter of time before what you want in a light is
developed using LEDs.
> Mirror/reflective surfaces could
> probably fix the directional problem, and en mass maybe the bright enough.
The brighter ones are using fewer but higher-power-rated LEDs.
> I
> love the weight thing, and built in DMX but once DMX is dead the fixture is
> useless... not so with my incan/halo stuff. Unfortunately, I can already see
> where DMX is a dying spec and running out of wind.
Tell me more. I thought DMX was pretty entrenched. What do you see
replacing it?
I wouldn't mind having direct MIDI control over lights w/o having to
translate to DMX.
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
303/319-9332
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> Cheers 'n' Good Stuff
> AA
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| Re: Auto-Tune vs. Melodyne - some observations [message #88382 is a reply to message #88375] |
Fri, 20 July 2007 21:08 |
Neil
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Anyone have a spare mec they can part with?
Assamundo
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:46f4fa9a@linux...
I'll double check Aaron.
Continuity is my middle name.
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message =
news:46f4e6c0@linux...
Dude, if you have 3 toasted MEC's I think it VERY likely you had =
a bad cable that put the hurt on them all as you swapped around parts.=20
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:46f472e2@linux...
Intersted people,
I know 3 fried mecs is unlikely. It's not confirmed until =
Tuesday=20
when I'll check the two that might 'still work'. The hardware =
solution
is seeming to be the most logical at this point. Here's why:
I was working perfectly with 2 mecs loaded to the gills and a =
442.
I wanted one more mec and bought one from Deej. Mistakenly,
I installed it without hiding my default project. Paris =
freaked
and I went through days of turmoil looking to get back to =
where
I was. Paris refused to boot with mecs and no 442 at that =
time.
Next I built another comp to test eds and cables and the 442. =
Everything went fine. No probs. This seemed promising.
Next I tried again in the studio with both computers and never =
got a=20
good Paris boot. Every time it wouldn't boot there was a Mec =
attached.
Even the 442 boots were flakey (no patchbay connections). I =
didn't learn=20
anything from this effort.
2 days ago I went to a techs place with the Paris comp, Deej's =
mec
and the 442. We used the mec throughout all testing until the =
end.
Fresh C drive, fresh Paris install.
As soon as the 442 was introduced Paris booted. Likely the =
Deej
mec is faulty but not necessarily.
Today I went back to my original C drive (no default proj) and =
Paris
would not boot with my other Mec that is loaded to the gills. =
I deleted
the Scherzo drivers, reloaded the new ones I just got, =
uninstalled the
subsystem and reloaded it. Once I changed to the 442 the =
system was fine.
Let me rephrase "Paris would not boot" . . . Actually it =
would usually start
up but no audio was available in the patchbay except with the =
442.
My take is that the introduction of DJ's mec (whether it =
worked or didn't,
let's assume that it worked) was screwy probably by my own =
doing. I
removed it and later shorted a SCSI 2 cable at the Master Mec =
sometime during that
next week. There was smoke in the power supply area so I =
never tried that
Mec again. My other mec was attached at that time. I now =
think it fried something
in their too.
I am trying DJs and my hopefully unfried mec at another studio =
on Tuesday to confirm
that neither works. If I'm wrong then we're back to software.
It ain't over till it's over.
Tom
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"Neil" <IOU@OIU.com> wrote in message =
news:46f46d03$1@linux...
In all seriousness - THREE bad MEC's??? What's the real
likelihood of that? Unless all 3 PSU's got hit hard with a
voltage spike or something weird like that, is it really
possible that ALL of his MECs went bad?
Neil
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
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>Tom,
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>Do you think the one I sent was bad ? It was working fine =
when I pulled
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>it from the rack.=3D20
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>I've noticed a few posts recently regarding errors. Maybe =
no more than =3D
>usual, but it seemed like an unusually high nu
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