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| PPJ to anything converter question [message #69827] |
Fri, 30 June 2006 16:35  |
BRAD LUND
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istians. "I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians.
Your Christians are so unlike your Christ." - Gandhi
2. Christians have believed these are the last days for the last 2000
years! In Matthew 24, when Jesus describes the "end times," he was talking
about his own times. Matthew 24:34 - "Verily I say unto you, This
generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled." Since then,
with every major war or natural disaster, there have been those crying
"repent for the end is near!" on street corners. I don't fear terrorists
nearly as much as I fear having someone like George Bush start a global
thermonuclear war out of some brain-damaged belief that Jesus will come and
float him to Heaven.
3. What you say is indisputable is in fact easily disputed. The plot
uncovered and thwarted in England (by the use of standard police work)
demostrates two things: terrorism is best prevented with good intelligence
work, and obliterating Iraq (or Iran, or Syria, etc) does nothing to prevent
such groups from planning their attacks. Every time an innocent Iraqi dies
in our foolish, ethnocentric quest to "spread democracy" (i.e., make the
world safe for American business), we risk inspiring angry desperate
civilians to join the ranks of the terrorists. Put yourself in their
place - isn't that what Jesus would do? Matthew 5:44 - "But I say unto you,
Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you,
and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you."
4. Anyone who plans the murder of innocent civilians to further their cause
deserves the tortures of the damned, and this includes terrorists and heads
of state. Evil people are evil people - it's got nothing to do with "right"
or "left," as a cursory survey of human history will show. We should fight
authoritarianism at either end of the spectrum, and right now it has crept
into our own government at the "right" end. It can't happen here? The
firmly fixed belief that it can't happen here is exactly what is allowing it
to happen here.
5. I don't have a fifth point . . . I just think 5 is a nicer number than
4.
PEACE and LOVE,
Sarah
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| Re: PPJ to anything converter question [message #69828 is a reply to message #69827] |
Fri, 30 June 2006 17:03  |
Carl Amburn
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"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote in message news:44e0bc3d$1@linux...
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> Hi Sarah,
>
> Well, I suspect there are all sorts of things in our world that Jesus
> disapproves of, including slavery, female circumciscion,
> sharia, burqa's, the deliberate targeting of civilians, and
> Islamofascism in general. (Oh, and not to mention those who don't
> believe in him, attributing positions to him to make political points)
>
> But there is certainly lots of guilt to go around isn't there?
>
> That's why Christians believe these to be the last days of earth's
> history. There are no easy answers. Maybe no answers at all,
> except to hold fast and warn everyone of what is coming.
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| Re: PPJ to anything converter question [message #69832 is a reply to message #69827] |
Fri, 30 June 2006 17:41 |
Dubya Mark Wilson
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>that, and sure enough, when I picked my kid up from karate that
>night there was a new student there, with his family, all muslim.
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>Nice people.
>
>Coincidence? nah. I don't usually go in to pick her up. It was clear
>to me that Jesus would not deport muslims. (I told Yeagley about
>this too)
>
>Hating muslims is simply evil. I will not do it. I don't even need to
>forgive those nice folks at karate since they were not responsible.
>
>Forgive the jihadi's? What would be the point? Forgiveness must
>be redemptive. Turning the other cheek can be VERY redemptive,
>but handing over the other daughter to a rapist is a sin, since it
>results in nothing but evil for everyone involved.
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>>Jesus (God) ways are not Man's evil wicked, divisive ways. Jesus say to
>turn
>>the other cheek, because operating under the "Messianic Law" of Eye for
>and
>>Eye yield "Nothing" but 10,000 years of silly fighting with no end in sight.
>>
>>What happens when a man turns the the proverbial cheek?
>>Is he the weaker one?? Even if the aggressor keeps hitting you, eventually,
>>he starts to understand that he cannot break you down" and thus he starts
>>to honor your calm strength..
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>
>Doesn't work with bombs. There is no redemption and no softening
>of hearts.
>
>Do you think your application of Jesus' advice was meant for Hitler?
>Would it have worked?
>Why do you think it will work with Hezbollah?
>
>Who is redeemed when all the good people are dead?
>
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>
>>Well you say " Our enemies only no one way and that their agression". Well,
>>what has that gotten the USA?? Once we gave into their aggression, we now
>>have "Lowered" our standards" to their level.. Now, who's running who..??
>
>It has gotten us relative peace since 911. What would
>appeasement of evil have gotten us?
>
>We have NOT lowered our standard to their level. We put those
>who target civlians on trial, they put them up as martyrs. Israel
>pays, every day, with their blood for their desire to not kill
>innocents. The jihadis put the rockets in the middle of
>neighborhoods so that innocents may be killed and paraded for
>cameras.
>
>Israel loses the best and bravest conducting surgical strikes to
>protect the innocent when they could have simply leveled the
>whole neighborhood and lost none of their own.
>
>If you think the west is no different than the jihadis, you are simply
>not morally serious.
>
>
>>The Late Dr Martin Luther King Jr, used Ghandi's method of change their
>"Non-Violence"
>>and it was effective.
>
>And you know what? It would work like magic if the jihadi's would
>use it. Want their own country? Great. Sit down, go on hunger
>strike, march! Nah, they won't because they desire one thing and
>one thing only; the destruction of Israel and the death of the Jews.
>
>Take them at their words. Believe them.
>
>BTW, Ghandi's method has limits and in his own case became
>nothing but self righteousness to the point he ended up killing
>his wife because he would not allow an injection of antibiotics.
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| Re: PPJ to anything converter question [message #69882 is a reply to message #69880] |
Sun, 02 July 2006 06:26 |
Deej [1]
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a>> wrote:
> > >This thing sounds great. Best $70.00 I've spent in a while. the twelve
> > >string emulation is about as good as I've ever heard, short of a real
12
> > >string. It can transform a strat into a pretty convincing
Ricky.......at
> > >least to my old ears.
> > >
> > >Deej
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>Hmmmm............I'll have to check. A lot of the presets are very
metal'esque, but editing is easy on this box.
"Rob Arsenault" <mani2@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message news:44e11872@linux...
> DJ, are there any good "tele pickin , Paisley'ish / Brent Mason presets"
>
> Thanks
> Rob
>
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> news:44e0ee67@linux...
> > I've got this thing in the insert loop of my Lexicon Signature 284 amp.
> It's
> > friggin wonderful. I'll get around to 'speramentin' some more when I get
> the
> > time. I'm going to get into the deep editing on the computer as soon as
I
> > get myself another active USB extender. The editing functions look to be
> > really good and really easy.
> >
> > this thang rock'eth most seriously
> >
> > ;o)
> >
> >
> > "DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote in message news:44e0df1a$1@linux...
> > >
> > > Cool! Let me know if you try the orchestra trick
> > >
> > > DC
> > >
> > >
> > > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> > > >This thing sounds great. Best $70.00 I've spent in a while. the
twelve
> > > >string emulation is about as good as I've ever heard, short of a real
> 12
> > > >string. It can transform a strat into a pretty convincing
> Ricky.......at
> > > >least to my old ears.
> > > >
> > > >Deej
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
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Brandon,
I noticed you are using a KVM on your two comps.
A wireless keyboard/mouse will not work in that setup.
I wanted to go wireless too but the KVM held me back.
Maybe yours is different?
Tom
"Brandon" <A@a.com> wrote in message news:44dfa16e@linux...
I got the Logitech wireless mouse / keyboard.
The keyboard is split into two seperate pads. Both wireless.
The numberpad is it's own wireless transmitter and can also double as =
an
independent calculator.
I will let you know how they work. $129
b
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>You might want to consider Kensington. I use the Expert Mouse PRO, =
it's
a
>track ball. After using it for a week or so, there was no going back =
to
>a mouse. I also use a Macally track ball. I also have many =
different mice,
>including a top of the line Microsoft wireless mouse. I rarely use =
it,
I
>will say that it is vary smooth, but it kind of eats batteries. =20
>
>Here is a link to Kensington's Expert Mouse Wireless. =
http://us.kensington.com/html/4136.html
>
>I think if you try a Kensington track ball for a while, you won't =
want to
>use a mouse.
>
>James
>
>
>"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
>>
>>Thanks guys.
>>I have had a few friends who used these wireless keyboards and it =
always
>>screwed up their systems. I tried to help them get it
>>working, but eventually told them to stop using it. That's why I =
worry
about
>>trying it myself. It would solve some wiring issues for me and also =
be
cool
>>to have a remote transport control. I will have to try it. How far =
is the
>>range? Have you guys tested it?
>>thx
>>b
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>Brandon, I've been using a Logitech wireless Keyboard/mouse with my =
Win98SE
>>>computer for about 5 years with no problems.
>>>
>>>Tyrone
>>
>
I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Brandon,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I noticed you are using a KVM on your =
two=20
comps.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>A wireless keyboard/mouse will not work =
in that=20
setup.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I wanted to go wireless too =
but the KVM=20
held me back.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Maybe yours is different?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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message=20
<A href=3D"news:44dfa16e@linux">news:44dfa16e@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>I =
got the=20
Logitech wireless mouse / keyboard.<BR>The keyboard is split into two =
seperate=20
pads. Both wireless.<BR>The numberpad is it's own wireless transmitter =
and can=20
also double as an<BR>independent calculator.<BR>I will let you know =
how they=20
work. $129<BR><BR>b<BR><BR><BR>"James McCloskey" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:excelsm@hotmail.com">excelsm@hotmail.com</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>><BR>>You might want to consider Kensington. I =
use the=20
Expert Mouse PRO, it's<BR>a<BR>>track ball. After using it =
for a week=20
or so, there was no going back to<BR>>a mouse. I also use a =
Macally=20
track ball. I also have many different mice,<BR>>including a =
top of=20
the line Microsoft wireless mouse. I rarely use =
it,<BR>I<BR>>will say=20
that it is vary smooth, but it kind of eats batteries. =20
<BR>><BR>>Here is a link to Kensington's Expert Mouse =
Wireless. <A=20
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href=3D"http://us.kensington.com/html/4136.html">http://us.kensington.com=
/html/4136.html</A><BR>><BR>>I=20
think if you try a Kensington track ball for a while, you won't want=20
to<BR>>use a =
mouse.<BR>><BR>>James<BR>><BR>> <BR>>"Brandon"=20
<<A href=3D"mailto:a@a.com">a@a.com</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>>><BR>>>Thanks guys.<BR>>>I have had a few =
friends=20
who used these wireless keyboards and it always<BR>>>screwed up =
their=20
systems. I tried to help them get it<BR>>>working, but =
eventually told=20
them to stop using it. That's why I worry<BR>about<BR>>>trying =
it=20
myself. It would solve some wiring issues for me and also=20
be<BR>cool<BR>>>to have a remote transport control. I will have =
to try=20
it. How far is the<BR>>>range? Have you guys tested=20
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it?<BR>>>thx<BR>>>b<BR>>> <BR&
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| Re: PPJ to anything converter question [message #69891 is a reply to message #69882] |
Sun, 02 July 2006 11:17 |
excelav
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kward and too stupid to enjoy freedom. This is
>embarrassing and likely racist, but since I know you, I suspect it
>is merely the unquestioning assumption of cultural relativity.
>
>It's like the old question; What do you do if you see an endangered
>animal eating an endangered plant?
>
>What do you do if you see a society doing clitorectomies, or having
>rape rooms as a means fo keeping the peace?
>
>Who are you to judge their culture?
>
>Yet we think that people can live a better life than that don't we?
>
>Christians know that there is one culture and it is God's.
>
>No america ain't it.
>
>But we know that some practices are
>degenerate, like human sacrifice and the roman gladiators and that
>when a society embraces degeneracy, that society is doomed.
>
>So yes, we can say that freedom and democracy is better than
>Saddam and his spawn, and despite your socialist hatred of "big
>business" we are the good guys in that conflict. If you dispute
>that, I challenge you to live under sharia and see if you don't
>change you mind.
>
>
>Matthew 5:44 - "But I say unto you,
>>Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate
>you,
>>and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you."
>
>
>And our brave soldiers and marines pray daily for even their enemies
>that they will have to kill as few as possible and they rejoice mightily
>at every one they save.
>
>read this:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0788023454/sr=1-1/qid=11555 98944/ref=sr_1_1/102-7219965-6149719?ie=UTF8&s=books
>
>and this:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0849918235/sr=1-7/qid=11555 98944/ref=sr_1_7/102-7219965-6149719?ie=UTF8&s=books
>
>
>You owe these brave men and women your very life and certainly
>your right to carry on such a discussion.
>
>
>>4. Anyone who plans the murder of innocent civilians to further their
cause
>
>>deserves the tortures of the damned, and this includes terrorists and heads
>
>>of state. Evil people are evil people - it's got nothing to do with "right"
>
>>or "left," as a cursory survey of human history will show. We should fight
>
>>authoritarianism at either end of the spectrum, and right now it has crept
>
>>into our own government at the "right" end. It can't happen here? The
>
>>firmly fixed belief that it can't happen here is exactly what is allowing
>it
>>to happen here.
>
>I went through the Holocaust museum here in Los Angeles.
>Been there? Go sometime. When my group exited the gas
>chamber at the end of the tour, our guide, a little old man who
>survived the camps asked us to raise our hands if we thought it
>it could happen here. Mostof the group of 35 or so raised their
>hands. Me and a couple of hard-eyed young men kept our hands
>down, and the old man asked us why.
>
>I answered with:
>
>"Because I will take up a rifle and kill anyone who tries to do such
>a thing, and I will lay down my life to prevent it here."
>
>(I could see the other guys shaking their heads in agreement)
>
>You know what the old guy said??
>
>He pointed at us and said:
>
>THAT is the ONLY reason it will not happen here!
>
>Now, you go there, and come out of that place onto Pico blvd., and
>go down to Factor's Deli for a bite and tell me about American
>authoritarianism. You need to re-join reality.
>
>Worst, once again, someone (iran and their cronies) is trying to wipe
>out the Jews. The Jews believe that someone will try to exterminate
>them in every generation, and how am I to prove them wrong?
>The left in this country has become the mirror image of Tim
>McVeigh and socialist/quasi-pacifist europe has once again
>revealed its seething anti-semitism. Yes, it can happen here,
>but we ain't going to go easy, I can tell you that.
>
>
>>5. I don't have a fifth point . . . I just think 5 is a nicer number than
>
>
>I saw the figure 5 in gold...Oh Boy..
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>> Oh yeah, Jesus also goes on record to say "Love they Enemies"..I know,
>what
>> a hard thing to do, but we took an "Oath of Faith " to follow his (Jesus)
>> teachings. So, we are not to only pick out his commandments that suits
or
>> fit us depending on the situation. LAD
>
>
>Forgiving them (terrorists) I believe is God's function. Our job is to
>simply arrange the meeting!
> - Norman Swartzkoph
>
>;o)
>
>
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:44e0c513$1@linux...
>>
>> As a believeing Christian,
>> why should we do "Anything at to save oursleves form the inevitable"??
>> If Jesus is soon to return, then why are so worried about the end times??
>>
>> We are to pray and help those who are not saved, to get saved..
>> Jesus goes on record to say that " No one but the Father(God) knows the
>end
>> of time(earth), to be ready (Spiritualy) when he (Jesus) comes..
>> He aslo states, "There will be wars AND Rumors of wars, daughters against
>> mothers, sons against fathers, nations against nations..But "FEAR Not"..
>>
>> It seems that we (Christians) are fearing for the Jesus return instead
of
>> Celebrating his coming..
>> We(Christians) need to read the test again..
>>
>> Oh yeah, Jesus also goes on record to say "Love they Enemies"..I know,
>what
>> a hard thing to do, but we took an "Oath of Faith " to follow his (Jesus)
>> teachings. So, we are not to only pick out his commandments that suits
or
>> fit us depending on the situation. LAD
>>
>>
>> "DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >Hi Sarah,
>> >
>> >Well, I suspect there are all sorts of things in our world that Jesus
>> >disapproves of, including slavery, female circumciscion,
>> >sharia, burqa's, the deliberate targeting of civilians, and
>> >Islamofascism in general. (Oh, and not to mention those who don't
>> >believe in him, attributing positions to him to make political points)
>> >
>> >But there is certainly lots of guilt to go around isn't there?
>> >
>> >That's why Christians believe these to be the last days of earth's
>> >history. There are no easy answers. Maybe no answers at all,
>> >except to hold fast and warn everyone of what is coming.
>> >
>> >Please notice though, that we are not "fighting them here", we
>> >are, quite successfuly *catching* them here, before any fighting
>> >is needed. Weakening the ghouls and head choppers makes us
>> >safer, it is clear. Give them ground, and they use the ground for
>> >more attacks. Appease them and you get more of the same.
>> >This is not disputable.
>> >Just take them at their own words. They clearly see your version
>> >of "peace" as weakness and an opportunity to kill more of us.
>> >
>> >Yet, it is really hard to take a purely right wing position, I know.
I
>> >DO NOT trust our gummint one little bit. Too many soldiers died
>> >in Vietnam for no reason to do that. Venal, cowardly, and amoral
>> >leaders are responsible for the deaths of too many great young men
>> >and women to trust them. (Bill Clinton was no better than
>> >Nixon and Johnson BTW, just read "Blackhawk Down") At least
>> >W is commited to victory.
>> >
>> >
>> >The only thing even worse than blind patriotism is the insanity being
>> >peddled by the left.
>> >
>> >And as a Christian I admit to the strong possibility of a time in the
>> >near future, when there is no difference, morally, between the
>> >right and left whatsoever.
>> >
>> >And then shall the end come.
>> >
>> >
>> >DC
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.om> wrote:
>> >>I didn't ask why they were foiled, silly. You said, "we need to know
>> >>exactly how these plots were foiled," so I was just repeating that and
>>
>> >>offering up an answer that I, of course, do not believe at all. I was
>>
>> >>merely making fun of those people who apparently do believe these
>things,
>> >
>> >>and attempting to satirically point out the particular absurdity of
the
>> >
>> >>"fighting them there so we don't have to fight them here," justification
>> >for
>> >>Iraq. I don't actually have "my own personal Jesus," but somehow I
just
>> >
>> >>don't think he would approve of all the "collateral damage."
>> >>
>> >>Perhaps you knew I was being "tongue in cheek," and you were too and
I
>> just
>> >
>> >>missed the subtlety. :)
>> >>
>> >>Shalom,
>> >>
>> >>Sarah J. Burke, RN
>> >>
>> >>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>> >>news:44e01125$1@linux...
>> >>> Well, y'see, we've proved now that Jesus can kick Mohammed's
>> >>>> ass, thereby demoralizing and discouraging all the would be
>terrorists
>> >in
>> >>>> the world.
>> >>>
>> >>> Well, I guess if that's what you believed foiled these attacks then
>why
>> >
>> >>> are
>> >>> you asking why they were foiled?
>> >>> I'm not so sure it was Jesus personally, but I guess, if you say so.
>> >>>
>> >>> "Sarah" <Report message to a moderator
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Sun, 02 July 2006 16:21 |
Martin Harrington
Messages: 560
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t there, whether real or suspected, pale
> in
> comparison.
>
> Rome fell from within, and so may the US - the foundation is already
> crumbling. There is always hope, but it doesn't come from hatred - for or
> from anyone, regardless of what we view as injustice or intolerance.
>
> Dedric
>
> On 8/14/06 9:51 PM, in article 44e14375$1@linux, "Sarah"
> <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Yours, in Christ,
>>
>> Sarah
>>
>>
>An elephant is walking through the jungle when he comes across a
naked man
standing in a clearing.
The elephant slowly looks the man up and down and says,
"How the hell do ya feed yourself with that?"i wonder at what point god said to nobody in particular..."really, i
thought they were ready for me...all i said was do unto others as..."
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 01:25:48 -0700, "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com>
wrote:
>Dedric,
>
> You're very right, and I apologize. I am certainly a Christian
>philosophically, but it's true that I was being sarcastic with my sign off,
>and that was disrespectful. As far as quoting Jesus, however, I do that
>because I believe he was trying to teach us how to live in peace, and to me
>that is more important right now than beliefs about the afterlife.
>
> I would not throw stones at Christianity, but I will always throw stones
>at hypocrisy and fanaticism, and I see a lot of those nowadays.
>
>Peace,
>
>Sarah
>
>
>"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message
>news:C106BFF9.2683%dterry@keyofd.net...
>> Sarah,
>>
>> I have no intention of expanding the debate of this thread, but I felt I
>> should at least voice my opinion of one aspect of your last post.
>>
>> I respectfully request that you not publicly insult those of us who
>> actually
>> do believe in Christ. The tone and approach of your post led me to
>> believe
>> your intent with this signature and quoting of scripture was one of
>> sarcasm
>> and vehemence. If you don't believe, please respect those that do and
>> don't
>> use His name as the basis for sarcasm, or quote Bible verses to support
>> what
>> appears to me to be an argument of throwing stones at Christianity. If
>> you
>> truly believe in peace and mutual respect, I am sure you will understand
>> my
>> request.
>>
>> If you do believe Christ, be careful about what you say, and keep reading.
>> The truth is in there, but it doesn't come from selectively lifting verses
>> to build an argument born of frustration. Believe me when I say that I
>> have
>> weighed my words carefully in this post for the very same reason.
>>
>> Whether we agree with each others' positions or not, in part this debate
>> may
>> just be evidence that the terrorists are in effect winning (at least their
>> motivator is winning). Why wage jihad on Americans by blowing up
>> buildings
>> if you can get the people to turn on their own neighbors? This is a
>> bigger
>> war than just a handful of terrorists - it is a war for the hearts and
>> souls
>> of every human being. Even though that may sound trite or melodramatic to
>> some, it is true, and at the very core of the Christian faith. Deception
>> is
>> the greatest weapon being wielded - and I'm not talking about governments
>> or
>> big business - the lies and deceit there, whether real or suspected, pale
>> in
>> comparison.
>>
>> Rome fell from within, and so may the US - the foundation is already
>> crumbling. There is always hope, but it doesn't come from hatred - for or
>> from anyone, regardless of what we view as injustice or intolerance.
>>
>> Dedric
>>
>> On 8/14/06 9:51 PM, in article 44e14375$1@linux, "Sarah"
>> <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Yours, in Christ,
>>>
>>> Sarah
>>>
>>>
>>
>So are they discontinuing the thing or something?
"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.org> wrote:
>
>It's a Yamaha MagicStomp.
>
> http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Yamaha-Magicstomp-II- Guitar-Effects-Processor?sku=151560
>
>Looks like they are out until the 18th.
>
>DC
>
>
>TC <tc@spammetodeathyoubastards.org> wrote:
>>Deej,
>>
>>Which box is that? I missed it..
>>
>>Cheers,
>>
>>TC
>>
>>DJ wrote:
>>> This thing sounds great. Best $70.00 I've spent in a while. the twelve
>>> string emulation is about as good as I've ever heard, short of a real
>12
>>> string. It can transform a strat into a pretty convincing Ricky.......at
>>> least to my old ears.
>>>
>>> Deej
>>>
>>>
>Man, what are you saying:
"I will cease my support of the war on terror when I am convinced our governement
is evil. I am not convinced yet, but I do not trust >those in power."
What kind of doubled speak is this?? Remember: A doubled minded Man is "Unstable"
in all His ways".
You Wrote: Now, if you do not see Iraq as self defense, fine, you have a
lot of company, but please give the other side some credit for good motives
as well.
You are right, I don't Iraq as self defense. We were supposed to be getting
Osama Bin Laden..???Remember. Now look at the mess we're in in Iraq. You
President, has taken this country down a very dark path in-which the majority
of his own political party does not subscibe to. With a 33-34 percent job
approval rating and his neo conservative views(Under the auspicies of Christianity)
what's to "grow" the American Empire to a region that will die before it
let's any other country set up shop.
All in all, it's in God's hands. God chooses players in the big Chess match
btw He and satan. Which means he can use some pawns like a Bush Cheney, Rice
& Rumsfeld,Libby and other neo-cons for his bidding.
One thing is for sure, God's Will; will be done.On Earth as it is in Heaven.
And his Will isthat he set out to make Earth man's dwelling place and this
time it will be King Jesus who will preside and rule forever.
"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>
>"LaMOnt" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>
>>DC, how can I miss-quote you by cutting & pasting your own writings?
>
>You misquoted me when you said:
>
>>So,I go out and kill a few Klux(ers) then what?? Does it bring back my
loved
>>one? Violence begats violence. Live bu the sword, you die by the sword.
>
>I never said to go out and kill anyone. That is revenge and I do not
>believe in revenge. I said it is righteous to stand up and defend your
>life and family should the lynch mob come for you. Those poor
>black americans lynched, castrated, and dragged behind cars
>needed guns, not pity.
>
>http://www.blackmanwithagun.com
>
>
>>The fact is, we as Americans are scared to death
>>that this "ride" maybe soon coming to a "screeching" halt.. That's not
unusual.
>>It's human..
>
>Every country, us and Israel included, has the right to self-defense.
>
>Now, if you do not see Iraq as self defense, fine, you have a lot
>of company, but please give the other side some credit for good
>motives as well.
>
>>But, we as Christians are supposed to be leaders and help prepare the way
>>of our Lord Jesus return. Not give into the violence, which by the way
is
>>not our fight to fight. It's a Spiritual war bwt God Almighty and satan.
>>To be honest, we are just pawns is their battle. But, we are joint heirs
>>with the Victor(God) almighty.
>>
>>It's really a shame that our Leaders have frighten the good people of this
>>nation under the auspices of following God. These leaders are no more than
>>plain Warmongers who God goes on record as saying he will judge them.
>
>There is plenty to be frightened of in this world without ascribing
>any manipulation to the gummint.
>
>The spiritual war is real, and I think it is coming. It is likely to be
>someone promising to lead us out of the morass of war and killing.
>
>He will talk about peace a lot and be very kind. Many will follow...
>
>
>>DC, do you believe inthe book of Revelations? If so, then you know what's
>>in store. Simply put..There will be some good times ahead, then, not dark
>>times. Then, finally, Glorious times. Amen!
>
>
>Revelation is not clear to me, at least not in the particulars. The
>big arc of history and who wins is clear, but those who try to find
>predictions for next week in Revelation are going to be
>disappointed.
>
>Since no two denominations agree on Revelation, I think it is a safe
>position to wait and see.
>
>I will cease my support of the war on terror when I am convinced our
>governement is evil. I am not convinced yet, but I do not trust
>those in power.
>
>take care
>
>DC
>"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>If you think I'm an atheist, we are clearly not communicating, and I don't
>think the problem is entirely at my end.
I don't think you are an atheist, I didn't even say that.
What I know is that without the vertical dimension, without
Jesus' divinity, nothing he said including and especially the parts
about peace and forgiveness, mean anything, and may be discarded
at will as they have meaning (or don't) to you personally.
This places the person at the center of faith, not God, and has no
foundation. You remember the story about the wise man building
his house upon the rock? It's like that.
I never thought you were an atheist.
>I'm not really a pacifist either, and in fact I think comparing this
>misguided blunder in Iraq to WWII is an insult to every soldier who fought
>to stop Hitler. Trust me, I will shoot a bad guy, and I may even be tempted
>to start with his kneecaps.
And I believe you. I also do not object to your opposition to the
war. I do object to your characterizing the president as a greater
threat than islamic terrorism. Whether or not you are one, you use
pacifist reasoning. Sometimes, as you indicate above, the way
to peace involves unfortunate, but necessary, violence.
>I'm also not a cultural relativist, but since it seems important for you
to
>put me in a category, I'll make it easy and just tell you that I'm basically
>a utilitarian. More accurately, I'm what I would call a "golden-rule-ist,"
>which I guess would be like a utilitarian but with more concern for
>individual rights.
Then give the Iraqi's who want freedom at least the same respect
we give each other.
>I'm also not a "leftist," I just look that way because the center has been
>dragged so friggin' far to the right. Nixon would be a leftist by today's
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Dubya Mark Wilson
Messages: 108
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Believe me when I say that
I
>>> have
>>> weighed my words carefully in this post for the very same reason.
>>>
>>> Whether we agree with each others' positions or not, in part this debate
>>> may
>>> just be evidence that the terrorists are in effect winning (at least
their
>>> motivator is winning). Why wage jihad on Americans by blowing up
>>> buildings
>>> if you can get the people to turn on their own neighbors? This is a
>>> bigger
>>> war than just a handful of terrorists - it is a war for the hearts and
>>> souls
>>> of every human being. Even though that may sound trite or melodramatic
to
>>> some, it is true, and at the very core of the Christian faith. Deception
>>> is
>>> the greatest weapon being wielded - and I'm not talking about governments
>>> or
>>> big business - the lies and deceit there, whether real or suspected,
pale
>>> in
>>> comparison.
>>>
>>> Rome fell from within, and so may the US - the foundation is already
>>> crumbling. There is always hope, but it doesn't come from hatred - for
or
>>> from anyone, regardless of what we view as injustice or intolerance.
>>>
>>> Dedric
>>>
>>> On 8/14/06 9:51 PM, in article 44e14375$1@linux, "Sarah"
>>> <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yours, in Christ,
>>>>
>>>> Sarah
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>Man, what are you saying:
>"I will cease my support of the war on terror when I am convinced our governement
>is evil. I am not convinced yet, but I do not trust >those in power."
One should never trust the gummint. It's basic americanism and
goes all the way back. They have to prove themselves at every
point and on every issue.
>You Wrote: Now, if you do not see Iraq as self defense, fine, you have a
>lot of company, but please give the other side some credit for good motives
>as well.
>You are right, I don't Iraq as self defense. We were supposed to be getting
>Osama Bin Laden..???Remember.
No, we were supposed to be making ourselves safer, we've done
pretty well at that. We'll get ole ODB, errr OBL, don't worry.
>Now look at the mess we're in in Iraq. You
>President, has taken this country down a very dark path in-which the majority
>of his own political party does not subscibe to. With a 33-34 percent job
>approval rating and his neo conservative views
That's one view. If we elect an appeaser and get 10 attacks the
first year, he'll look pretty good huh?
DC"Neil" <IUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>So, this is in our nature, and one could make the argument that
>because God created us this way - with a strong survival
>instinct - that it's actually his will for us to fight & kill
>each other.
Christians believe that all this happened because of the fall of our
great parents and the entry of evil into God's world, not because
God intended us to fight. Also, it is reasonable to believe that a
God who could create a universe could also keep the important
parts of his message comprehensible. After all, he sent his Son.
That certainly shows motive...
best,
DCWhen I was at Michael Wagener's place in Nashville we were
working on these and they seemed pretty cool.Down at the new
studio we mainly use NS-10s so I've been trying to get used to
those.Always had those Adams in the back of my mind.
Anybody around here have experience with these and watta ya
think?Yeah I know,they ain't cheap.
TIA,
Pete"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>I found it to be a bit to "boxey" sounding. Mesa is really trying to break
>nto the blues market dominated by Fender and other custom manufactures..
>And the verb is "too" thick. Just my opinion.
>A fender Blues deville,BAssman, Tonemaster,vibrolux, has a more open , yet
>sweeter sound than the Mesa..
>lAD
I've been using a Mark IV for many years, and I think it is a great amp.
I got it when my back would no longer put up with my Twin Reverb. But I
think the real winner in the MB line is the Blue Angel (now discontinued),
which I intend to buy once I have no more room in the rack for compressors!
The Blue Angel, in my opinion, does a good Blackface Deluxe Reverb, and
a good AC30. That covers a lot of ground for recording.Thanks Sarah. I don't have a problem at all with quoting scripture - you
are right in your intent - it was only the tone that sent a mixed message,
but no need to dwell on that.
You are exactly right, Jesus' message is one of peace, and putting faith
above our own desires and head-logic. I actually think everyone in this
thread has good points - you, DC, Neil, Lamont, Jamie, etc. When we mix the
concept of war with the faith, there are no easy answers. I don't like war.
I don't like terrorism. I don't like injustice of any kind. But I know
that Jesus teachings require a consistency of faith and trusting in Him even
when we would rather pick up a hockey stick and smack someone on the head
with it (Osama bin Laden, Kim Jung Il (sp?), Exxon, that last client... ;-).
Sidebar here...
As has been pointed out, what really makes the war vs. peace situation hard
is when we are dealing with people (terrorists) that have no concept of
respect for others, the value of life, much less tolerance, diplomacy, or
understanding. The only peaceful resolution for a terrorist is the death of
his enemy. What then is peace for the terrorist's "enemy"?...
If any of you have seen the movie "The End of The Spear", or are familiar
with story of Jim Elliot, you've seen and example of what faith really
should be. As a missionary to Ecuador, Jim Elliot and his companions were
killed when trying to reach out to the Huaorani (or Auca) Indians - he left
behind a wife and son. His wife and others went back years later and
eventually reached this once violent tribe - many became Christians, and a
decendant (grandson of one of the original Auca's responsible for Elliot's
death I believe) was on tour with Christian artist Steven Curtis Chapman a
few years ago relating the story of the incredible positive change in his
tribe due to the unyielding love of the Elliots and others, even in the face
of death. (I didn't get to see the concert, but heard it was an amazing
experience - far more than just the music). Jim Elliot gave his life
without ever seeing the fruit of his labor as have many others, but it ended
up changing more lives than just those of the Auca Indians.
So where do we draw the line between defending ourselves and being willing
to just accept the loss of life, even our own, in order to send a message of
love rather than one of defiance? Or is there even a line at all? Maybe
that's the part we have such a hard time with. It is easy to establish the
boundaries we are comfortable with (aka "relativism"), but that usually
entails putting God in a box with personally or socially acceptable wrapping
paper - either with us, or without us inside - to avoid dealing with the
less appealing parts of ourselves.
For a nation, there is no easy answer since not everyone believes the same
way, so at best a country is a compromise until it deteriorates into some
form of chaos and then reaches another compromise as a "solution". That's
really why we have war (the fall of man being the root cause, as DC pointed
out). There is no politically correct balance to be maintained in
perpetuity - that is a myth. The only constant is God and His word.
Without constants, there is nothing but a continual cycle of chaos and
compromise.
Regards,
Dedric
On 8/15/06 2:25 AM, in article 44e183aa@linux, "Sarah"
<sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
> Dedric,
>
> You're very right, and I apologize. I am certainly a Christian
> philosophically, but it's true that I was being sarcastic with my sign off,
> and that was disrespectful. As far as quoting Jesus, however, I do that
> because I believe he was trying to teach us how to live in peace, and to me
> that is more important right now than beliefs about the afterlife.
>
> I would not throw stones at Christianity, but I will always throw stones
> at hypocrisy and fanaticism, and I see a lot of those nowadays.
>
> Peace,
>
> Sarah
>
>
> "Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message
> news:C106BFF9.2683%dterry@keyofd.net...
>> Sarah,
>>
>> I have no intention of expanding the debate of this thread, but I felt I
>> should at least voice my opinion of one aspect of your last post.
>>
>> I respectfully request that you not publicly insult those of us who
>> actually
>> do believe in Christ. The tone and approach of your post led me to
>> believe
>> your intent with this signature and quoting of scripture was one of
>> sarcasm
>> and vehemence. If you don't believe, please respect those that do and
>> don't
>> use His name as the basis for sarcasm, or quote Bible verses to support
>> what
>> appears to me to be an argument of throwing stones at Christianity. If
>> you
>> truly believe in peace and mutual respect, I am sure you will understand
>> my
>> request.
>>
>> If you do believe Christ, be careful about what you say, and keep reading.
>> The truth is in there, but it doesn't come from selectively lifting verses
>> to build an argument born of frustration. Believe me when I say that I
>> have
>> weighed my words carefully in this post for the very same reason.
>>
>> Whether we agree with each others' positions or not, in part this debate
>> may
>> just be evidence that the terrorists are in effect winning (at least their
>> motivator is winning). Why wage jihad on Americans by blowing up
>> buildings
>> if you can get the people to turn on their own neighbors? This is a
>> bigger
>> war than just a handful of terrorists - it is a war for the hearts and
>> souls
>> of every human being. Even though that may sound trite or melodramatic to
>> some, it is true, and at the very core of the Christian faith. Deception
>> is
>> the greatest weapon being wielded - and I'm not talking about governments
>> or
>> big business - the lies and deceit there, whether real or suspected, pale
>> in
>> comparison.
>>
>> Rome fell from within, and so may the US - the foundation is already
>> crumbling. There is always hope, but it doesn't come from hatred - for or
>> from anyone, regardless of what we view as injustice or intolerance.
>>
>> Dedric
>>
>> On 8/14/06 9:51 PM, in article 44e14375$1@linux, "Sarah"
>> <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Yours, in Christ,
>>>
>>> Sarah
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>Yeah........I know.......sorry.........couldn't resist
"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:44e157b4$1@linux...
>
> Oh Boy..
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >> Oh yeah, Jesus also goes on record to say "Love they Enemies"..I know,
> >what
> >> a hard thing to do, but we took an "Oath of Faith " to follow his
(Jesus)
> >> teachings. So, we are not to only pick out his commandments that suits
> or
> >> fit us depending on the situation. LAD
> >
> >
> >Forgiving them (terrorists) I believe is God's function. Our job is to
> >simply arrange the meeting!
> > - Norman Swartzkoph
> >
> >;o)
> >
> >
> >
> >"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:44e0c513$1@linux...
> >>
> >> As a believeing Christian,
> >> why should we do "Anything at to save oursleves form the inevitable"??
> >> If Jesus is soon to return, then why are so worried about the end
times??
> >>
> >> We are to pray and help those who are not saved, to get saved..
> >
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Tue, 04 July 2006 19:50 |
Miguel Vigil [1]
Messages: 258
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t, he was unable to get his penis erect. After a complete exam the
>>> doctor told Jack that the muscles around the base of his penis were
>> damaged
>>> from a prior viral infection and there was nothing he could do for him.
>>> However, he knew of an experimental treatment that might be applicable,
>>> if
>>> he were willing to take the risk.
>>>
>>> The treatment consisted of implanting muscle tissue from an elephant's
>>> trunk in Jack's penis. Jack thought about it for a while. The thought
>>> of
>>> going through life without ever experiencing sex again was just too much
>>> for him to bear. So, with the assurance that there would be no cruelty
>>> or
>>> adverse effect on the elephant, Jack decided to go for it.
>>>
>>> A few weeks after the operation, Jack was given the green light to use
>>> his newly renovated equipment. As a result, he planned a romantic evening
>>> with his girlfriend and took her to one of the nicest restaurants in the
>>> city. However, in the middle of dinner he felt a stirring between his
>>> legs that continued to the point of being extremely painful. To release
>>> the
>>> pressure, Jack unzipped his fly andimmediately his penis sprung from his
>>> pants, went to the top of the table, grabbed a roll, then returned to
>>> his
>>> pants.
>>>
>>> His girl friend was stunned at first, but then with a sly smile on her
>>> face said: "Jack, that was incredible. Can you do that again?"
>>>
>>> Jack, with his eyes watering, replied: "I think I can, but I'm not sure
>>> that I can fit another roll up my ass."
>>>
>>> :)
>>>
>>> "rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:f093e2hhl6uklcm5lqiuvgrv7b8l0pd3ca@4ax.com...
>>> > An elephant is walking through the jungle when he comes across a
>>> > naked man
>>> > standing in a clearing.
>>> >
>>> > The elephant slowly looks the man up and down and says,
>>> >
>>> > "How the hell do ya feed yourself with that?"
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>Guys, try this, this works for me, and without compensated
nuts - although in one way or another I've been compensating
for my nuts since I was a teenager (cue rim shot) :D
If you want a quick & easy method that works great for playing
along with keyboards, first tune to a strobe or quartz tuner,
etc. then check this chord formation on the fifth &
seventh frets. It's a suspended variant & it's a barre across
the fifth fret followed by the placement of your third finger
on the 7th fret of the D string & your pinky on the 7th fret of
the G... play all 6 strings of this chord & if it sounds good
you're there! Check the same chord up two frets & if your
guitar's set up properly it'll sound good there, as well. If
you hear beating, then adjust the top three strings as needed,
but don't overdo it because then standard 1st-position
voicings might sound "off". Do this & you'll be right on
for nearly any keyboard except honky-tonk pie-an-uhh's
Neil
"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>Mainly, I don't want to feel like a 3rd thumb when I work with a keyboard
>player or sequence. That used to make me NUTS, completely NUTS listening
to
>that night after night and trying to compensate through manual string
>bending and such.
>
>AA
>
>
>"DC" <dc@spammeryonthehighsea.com> wrote in message news:44e2a8c1$1@linux...
>>
>> Oh no mateys, It's the dreaded temperment discussion!!!
>>
>> Well, W. Mark is right of course, but it is a different subject
>> than the one I raised. All I want to do is get the guitar to
>> actually match our (imperfect) equal temperment scale.
>>
>> It does not do so without some work on intonation at both
>> ends of the string.
>>
>> Just intonation (the cure for sour thirds) is simply not practical
>> for most of us since it works in one key only and the entire
>> band must use it.
>>
>> We are stuck with equal temperment and some sweetened
>> versions of it from Buzz, and Petersen has a nice guitar temper-
>> ment too, but it is not just intonation, as the Feiten system is
>> not.
>>
>> Again, I just want the guitar to be in tune with equal
>> temperment. I came darn close.
>>
>> More tomorrow. BTW, although it is not as perfect as just
>> intonation (which btw, I have heard and I find it a bit dull
>> sounding) the guitar when it actually matches our standard
>> tuning system sounds WAY better than when it does not.
>>
>>
>>
>> DC
>>
>>
>> "Dubya Mark Wilson" <mark.xspam@avidrecording.com> wrote:
>>>You'll *never* totally solve that using our 12 tone tempered scale....
>>>anywhere on the neck where there is mathematically "correct" intonation
>> of
>>>the instrument. On such an intonated instrument our happy sounding major
>>
>>>3rd interval is technically correct but musically flawed. The intonated
>> 3rd
>>>always sounds a little sharp (or wide to be scientific about it) and there
>>
>>>is typically some 'beating' going on in that interval. This is where
>>>orchestral string players have an advantage us fretted players. They
play
>>
>>>the interval so that it is musically pleasing. The difference is around
>> 15
>>>cents or, said another way, the natural pure sounding major 3 interval
is
>>
>>>about 14% narrower than a "perfect" 3rd.... thus your interval between
G
>> and
>>>B when each is "correctly" tuned sounds bad. To be factual, that meaty
>>
>>>sounding 1/5 power chord is also screwed... our ears just don't sweat
that
>>
>>>one as much.
>>>
>>>There is a lot I could write on this as I have studied it quite a bit
for
>>
>>>the same reason DC wants to cut is way into solving the unsolvable at
the
>>
>>>narrow end of the fingerboard. Won't happen Don but Buzzy Featon managed
>> to
>>>cheat it a little bit with cuts and tuning procedure that starts with
the
>> D
>>>string. I think what I'll do here is google for some good info on these
>> two
>>>related topics and paste some links. Look for another post.
>>>
>>>WMW
>>>
>>>"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>news:44e264cd$1@linux...
>>>> Very interested.. I custom slotted and filed a nut on my LP trying to
>> get
>>>> this issue to go away on the B string... it helped, but not a complete
>>
>>>> solution.
>>>>
>>>> AA
>>>>
>>>> "DC" <dc@spammersinchulavista.org> wrote in message
>>>> news:44e25d2a$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> No, I am not talking about a politician with a Tele...
>>>>>
>>>>> For the last 2 days I have been working on an idea for a intonated
>>>>> nut for guitars and basses.
>>>>>
>>>>> Want to see something reall scary? Get a good chromatic tuner,
>>>>> tune all your strings to pitch. Not press down each string at the
>>>>> first
>>>>> fret and check your tuning again...
>>>>>
>>>>> Unless you have a very lucky accident, most of the strings will be
>>>>> out of tune at the first fret. This is why guitars don't play in
>>>>> tune when changing from open to fretted notes. Yes, the bridge
>>>>> intonation is vitally important, but the nut being intonatable is
>>>>> also very important.
>>>>>
>>>>> Today I finished installing my first made-from-scratch intonatable
>>>>> nut on my Anderson strat. (and no this is not the same as the
>>>>> Feiten tuning system).
>>>>>
>>>>> I've got to go out for a while, but if several of you are interested,
>> I
>>>>> will post the details on how to do this when I get a chance.
>>>>>
>>>>> It works. The guitar is more in tune, by far, than ever before.
>>>>>
>>>>> DC
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>Just use antipace. Sheesh, you think ID has a leg to stand on anymore for
us getting rid of Pace? Paris runs great without Pace. Go for it. :)
"Wayne Carson" <carson_wayne@msn.com> wrote:
>Aaron, What do you mean "update those drivers to the spec in the XP beta
>driver install"? I'm on XP SP1 with PARIS 3.0 and PACE and did the WinXP
>beta3 driver install, using the XP driver package and making PARIS work
on
>XP documents from the GreatIdea website. The only problem I initially had
>was to disable HT. Since then it's been rock steady, since 2004. Do you
>mean, there are files to update for PACE or XP when I upgrade to SP2?
>
>Martin, thanks for the reply. Makes me feel more confident about the move.
>
>Anyone else wanna quick chime?
>
>Thanks all,
>Wayne
>
>"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>news:44e26ce0$1@linux...
>> My Paris box is at SP1 with NO security updates on it. Runs great when
I
>> have time to fire it up, short of a video card issue I'm dealing with.
>> SP2 I'm relatively sure would work just fine given what I do know. I do
>not
>> connect this machine to the internet.
>> If you use Pace you will have to update those drivers to the spec in the
>XP
>> beta driver install.
>>
>> AA
>>
>> "Wayne Carson" <carson_wayne@msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:44e24942@linux...
>> > Hey Aaron,
>> >
>> > A year ago you upgraded to SP2 and mentioned that you didn't have any
>> > problems running PARIS. I've got one computer. My desktop with WinXP
>SP1
>> > with all security updates and use it for all my business and personal
>> > finance software, databases, PARIS system, sequencers, Word docs, games,
>> > DVD/CD burner and the internet (minimal use for email and product
>software
>> > updates). I run all programs one at a time. No multi-tasking here.
>> >
>> > Did you have any problems with the install over SP1? Did everything
>work
>> > afterwards? Did it mess with Interloc PACE for PARIS? Any comments
>> > would
>> > be appreciated.
>> >
>> > Anyone else can chime in. I do have back ups for all my important files
>> > and
>> > programs and all my audio is on my D drive. I've got the CD and wish
to
>> > upgrade for internet security. Once upgraded, there's no going back,
>> > right?
>> >
>> > Thanks all,
>> > Wayne Carson
>> > Paris user since 97
>> > Lurker and learner and sometimes I have a question
>
>Don,
Be sure to post this on your guitar blog as well. My boss is a guitar geek
and checks out your blog, and I'm sure he'd be interested in this.
Brian
"DC" <dc@spammeryonthehighsea.com> wrote in message news:44e2a8c1$1@linux...
>
> Oh no mateys, It's the dreaded temperment discussion!!!
>
> Well, W. Mark is right of course, but it is a different subject
> than the one I raised. All I want to do is get the guitar to
> actually match our (imperfect) equal temperment scale.
>
> It does not do so without some work on intonation at both
> ends of the string.
>
> Just intonation (the cure for sour thirds) is simply not practical
> for most of us since it works in one key only and the entire
> band must use it.
>
> We are stuck with equal temperment and some sweetened
>
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| Re: PPJ to anything converter question [message #69958 is a reply to message #69957] |
Tue, 04 July 2006 20:37 |
Martin Harrington
Messages: 560
Registered: September 2005
|
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versions of it from Buzz, and Petersen has a nice guitar temper-
> ment too, but it is not just intonation, as the Feiten system is
> not.
>
> Again, I just want the guitar to be in tune with equal
> temperment. I came darn close.
>
> More tomorrow. BTW, although it is not as perfect as just
> intonation (which btw, I have heard and I find it a bit dull
> sounding) the guitar when it actually matches our standard
> tuning system sounds WAY better than when it does not.
>
>
>
> DC
>
>
> "Dubya Mark Wilson" <mark.xspam@avidrecording.com> wrote:
>>You'll *never* totally solve that using our 12 tone tempered scale....
>>anywhere on the neck where there is mathematically "correct" intonation
> of
>>the instrument. On such an intonated instrument our happy sounding major
>
>>3rd interval is technically correct but musically flawed. The intonated
> 3rd
>>always sounds a little sharp (or wide to be scientific about it) and there
>
>>is typically some 'beating' going on in that interval. This is where
>>orchestral string players have an advantage us fretted players. They play
>
>>the interval so that it is musically pleasing. The difference is around
> 15
>>cents or, said another way, the natural pure sounding major 3 interval is
>
>>about 14% narrower than a "perfect" 3rd.... thus your interval between G
> and
>>B when each is "correctly" tuned sounds bad. To be factual, that meaty
>
>>sounding 1/5 power chord is also screwed... our ears just don't sweat that
>
>>one as much.
>>
>>There is a lot I could write on this as I have studied it quite a bit for
>
>>the same reason DC wants to cut is way into solving the unsolvable at the
>
>>narrow end of the fingerboard. Won't happen Don but Buzzy Featon managed
> to
>>cheat it a little bit with cuts and tuning procedure that starts with the
> D
>>string. I think what I'll do here is google for some good info on these
> two
>>related topics and paste some links. Look for another post.
>>
>>WMW
>>
>>"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>news:44e264cd$1@linux...
>>> Very interested.. I custom slotted and filed a nut on my LP trying to
> get
>>> this issue to go away on the B string... it helped, but not a complete
>
>>> solution.
>>>
>>> AA
>>>
>>> "DC" <dc@spammersinchulavista.org> wrote in message
>>> news:44e25d2a$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> No, I am not talking about a politician with a Tele...
>>>>
>>>> For the last 2 days I have been working on an idea for a intonated
>>>> nut for guitars and basses.
>>>>
>>>> Want to see something reall scary? Get a good chromatic tuner,
>>>> tune all your strings to pitch. Not press down each string at the
>>>> first
>>>> fret and check your tuning again...
>>>>
>>>> Unless you have a very lucky accident, most of the strings will be
>>>> out of tune at the first fret. This is why guitars don't play in
>>>> tune when changing from open to fretted notes. Yes, the bridge
>>>> intonation is vitally important, but the nut being intonatable is
>>>> also very important.
>>>>
>>>> Today I finished installing my first made-from-scratch intonatable
>>>> nut on my Anderson strat. (and no this is not the same as the
>>>> Feiten tuning system).
>>>>
>>>> I've got to go out for a while, but if several of you are interested,
> I
>>>> will post the details on how to do this when I get a chance.
>>>>
>>>> It works. The guitar is more in tune, by far, than ever before.
>>>>
>>>> DC
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>But IIRC the closeness of the fret to the nut is also part of the problem.
That is, the pressure on the string to fret the note is greater on the first
fret than then 12th, and that adds additional tuning problems.
Not that this isn't a good idea, just that I think guitars are, by nature,
creatures that play out of tune. Ben Verdery, the uber classical guitar genius
I've met around Yale, told me once that he just retunes between songs according
to what notes are fretted and open in the particular piece coming up. I've
taken that advice and usually retune the G and B strings according to the
key/chords of the next song. A little ghetto but it works.
All of which become pointless since the other guitar player in the band I
play in is the only person on earth who can bash a TELECASTER out of tune
before the first chorus, but I still try.
TCB
"DC" <dc@spammersinchulavista.org> wrote:
>
>No, I am not talking about a politician with a Tele...
>
>For the last 2 days I have been working on an idea for a intonated
>nut for guitars and basses.
>
>Want to see something reall scary? Get a good chromatic tuner,
>tune all your strings to pitch. Not press down each string at the first
>fret and check your tuning again...
>
>Unless you have a very lucky accident, most of the strings will be
>out of tune at the first fret. This is why guitars don't play in
>tune when changing from open to fretted notes. Yes, the bridge
>intonation is vitally important, but the nut being intonatable is
>also very important.
>
>Today I finished installing my first made-from-scratch intonatable
>nut on my Anderson strat. (and no this is not the same as the
>Feiten tuning system).
>
>I've got to go out for a while, but if several of you are interested, I
>will post the details on how to do this when I get a chance.
>
>It works. The guitar is more in tune, by far, than ever before.
>
>DC
>http://www.fff.org/comment/ed1001h.asp
Your thoughts on this article? Are the assumptions made valid?
If not, why?
Are the options suggested as solutions good ones?
If not, why?
I have my own thoughts on this (of course ) that I don't have time to post
right now, but I thought this article was pretty succinct, though by virtue
of it's being succinct, perhaps oversimplified.
One thing that is ignored is the ideological aspect as is ascribed to
Islamic fundamentalism regarding the *Caliphate* mentality.
I was watching the evil Fox news last night and saw and interview with
Alexander Haig wherein he stated that though the ideological religious
fanaticism was certainly real, our administration had been doing a bit of
that as well. I thought this was an *astute* observation personally.
Anyway.....FWIW.......I'd be interested in the opinions offered here.Thanks Aaaron.
Jim, I've tried to find antipace. Could you steer me towards it. Thanks :)
Wayne
"Jim" <jmulner@juno.com> wrote in message news:44e30b0b$1@linux...
>
> Just use antipace. Sheesh, you think ID has a leg to stand on anymore for
> us getting rid of Pace? Paris runs great without Pace. Go for it. :)
>
> "Wayne Carson" <carson_wayne@msn.com> wrote:
> >Aaron, What do you mean "update those drivers to the spec in the XP beta
> >driver install"? I'm on XP SP1 with PARIS 3.0 and PACE and did the
WinXP
> >beta3 driver install, using the XP driver package and making PARIS work
> on
> >XP documents from the GreatIdea website. The only problem I initially
had
> >was to disable HT. Since then it's been rock steady, since 2004. Do you
> >mean, there are files to update for PACE or XP when I upgrade to SP2?
> >
> >Martin, thanks for the reply. Makes me feel more confident about the
move.
> >
> >Anyone else wanna quick chime?
> >
> >Thanks all,
> >Wayne
> >
> >"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
> >news:44e26ce0$1@linux...
> >> My Paris box is at SP1 with NO security updates on it. Runs great when
> I
> >> have time to fire it up, short of a video card issue I'm dealing with.
> >> SP2 I'm relatively sure would work just fine given what I do know. I do
> >not
> >> connect this machine to the internet.
> >> If you use Pace you will have to update those drivers to the spec in
the
> >XP
> >> beta driver install.
> >>
> >> AA
> >>
> >> "Wayne Carson" <carson_wayne@msn.com> wrote in message
> >> news:44e24942@linux...
> >> > Hey Aaron,
> >> >
> >> > A year ago you upgraded to SP2 and mentioned that you didn't have any
> >> > problems running PARIS. I've got one computer. My desktop with
WinXP
> >SP1
> >> > with all security updates and use it for all my business and personal
> >> > finance software, databases, PARIS system, sequencers, Word docs,
games,
> >> > DVD/CD burner and the internet (minimal use for email and product
> >software
> >> > updates). I run all programs one at a time. No multi-tasking here.
> >> >
> >> > Did you have any problems with the install over SP1? Did everything
> >work
> >> > afterwards? Did it mess with Interloc PACE for PARIS? Any comments
> >> > would
> >> > be appreciated.
> >> >
> >> > Anyone else can chime in. I do have back ups for all my important
files
> >> > and
> >> > programs and all my audio is on my D drive. I've got the CD and wish
> to
> >> > upgrade for internet security. Once upgraded, there's no going back,
> >> > right?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks all,
> >> > Wayne Carson
> >> > Paris user since 97
> >> > Lurker and learner and sometimes I have a question
> >
> >
>Good Post DJ.. I guess Al Haige is out of step with the far-right side of
the Republican party. They will now proceed to demonize him to no end.
LAD
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>http://www.fff.org/comment/ed1001h.asp
>
>Your thoughts on this article? Are the assumptions made valid?
>
>If not, why?
>
>Are the options suggested as solutions good ones?
>
>If not, why?
>
>I have my own thoughts on this (of course ) that I don't have time to post
>right now, but I thought this article was pretty succinct, though by virtue
>of it's being succinct, perhaps oversimplified.
>
>One thing that is ignored is the ideological aspect as is ascribed to
>Islamic fundamentalism regarding the *Caliphate* mentality.
>
>I was watching the evil Fox news last night and saw and interview with
>Alexander Haig wherein he stated that though the ideological religious
>fanaticism was certainly real, our administration had been doing a bit of
>that as well. I thought this was an *astute* observation personally.
>
>Anyway.....FWIW.......I'd be interested in the opinions offered here.
>
>In any conflict it is wise to consider the true interests of every side
in order to have any hope of resolution.
For Bin Laden, Saudi Arabia is bound to be key. He's from there. From
our perspective, 9/11 was an attack by Saudi Arabians on the USA.
The Iraq embargo is moot. But our involvement in Iraq has gotten much
greater since those days.
Deej, you may scoff, but I think it's fairly obvious we're in the region
because of the resources there. Official rationalizations aside, current
strategy seems to be to surround oil fields with US and British forces.
Saudi, Kuwait, Afghanistan, Iraq...Iran is on the radar.
Privatizing foreign aid is an interesting idea but it seems impractical.
On one hand it might lessen foreign lobbying and meddling with our
government. OTOH, it makes government less relevant and removes an
important element of foreign policy in favor of a more chaotic approach.
Granted that such chaos might make better choices at times. Private
sources already send money all over the world for various reasons, is
there any prohibition on that now?
Dropping support for Israel would be a bad move on many levels. However,
coming up with a consistent rational policy toward peace in the region
would be beneficial, with an attempt at understanding and working toward
the compatible interests of all parties. Our involvement on that level
seems to wax and wane.
Aggressive religious fanaticism is a recipe for disaster anywhere on the
globe. Aggressive expansionist nationalism also falls into that
category. Both exist in the region. Framing the situation in "crusade"
language, as Bush once did, supports Haig's point.
Cheers,
-Jamie
http://www.JamieKrutz.com
DJ wrote:
> http://www.fff.org/comment/ed1001h.asp
>
> Your thoughts on this article? Are the assumptions made valid?
>
> If not, why?
>
> Are the options suggested as solutions good ones?
>
> If not, why?
>
> I have my own thoughts on this (of course ) that I don't have time to post
> right now, but I thought this article was pretty succinct, though by virtue
> of it's being succinct, perhaps oversimplified.
>
> One thing that is ignored is the ideological aspect as is ascribed to
> Islamic fundamentalism regarding the *Caliphate* mentality.
>
> I was watching the evil Fox news last night and saw and interview with
> Alexander Haig wherein he stated that though the ideological religious
> fanaticism was certainly real, our administration had been doing a bit of
> that as well. I thought this was an *astute* observation personally.
>
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