| OT: Shameless me plug. ;o) [message #73330] |
Fri, 29 September 2006 21:24  |
Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005
|
Senior Member |
|
|
rme as master and buy just a distributor like
>>Drawmer 20 out (!!!) D-clock device whic sells for 700 $ but I am afraid
>>of RME as master.
>>Anyone to rescue me ?
>>Regards,
>>Dimitrios
>>
>
>I also have a fairly complicated digital setup and use a Mytek for master
>wordclock. I do not run multiple parallel wordclocks and my setup works
fine
>with no real wordclock issues. Why don’t you borrow a wordclock generator
>and see if you can just go directly to the Pulsar Creamware card and switch
>it to external leaving everything else untouched. I can’t guarantee it but
>it’s worth trying.
>
>You are not using the Paris wordclock (which is not terrible). I thought
>the Creamware clock was considered ok, are you sure you will hear any improvement
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Re: OT: Shameless me plug. ;o) [message #73384 is a reply to message #73383] |
Sat, 30 September 2006 16:47  |
Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005
|
Senior Member |
|
|
>>>
>>>>Daw needed:
>>>
>>>Oh... sorry, didn't see that part at first.
>>>
>>>
>>>>Truly pro audio sound quality
>>>>Records 24 analog channels simultaneously while playing back 24 analog
>>>>Can play back 60 analog channels total with dozens of plugsins.
>>>>I/O needs to be 20 feet away from the computer that is in another room
>>>>Has a mix buss that doesnt get crushed by lots of tracks
>>>>Supports plugin delay compensation and plugin automation.
>>>>Supports VSTi's
>>>
>>>CubaseSX (or Nuendo, of course) can do all this if you go with
>>>2 RME Multiface's. Each Multiface has 8 analog ins & outs, plus
>>>4 or 8 lightpipe channels, depending on your samplerate (up to
>>>48k you can get 8 lightpipe channels, over that, the
>>>lightpipe's bandwidth limits it to 4), and 2 SPDIF ins & outs;
>>>so really you could get 36 total in's & outs going at once with
>>>2 Multifaces. Or if you need 24 strictly analog i/o's, then 3
>>>Multifaces would be your ticket.
>>>
>>>As far as the mix buss goes, I am pretty sure I can hear a
>>>difference between Cubase V3 and V1, which I had before... I
>>>say "pretty sure" because there's always the chance I'm just
>>>convincing myself that there's a difference when there really
>>>is not - as I understand it, starting on v2 was when they used
>>>the same audio engine as Nuendo (v1 supposedly did NOT have the
>>>same audio engine as Nuendo - I've not been able to get a
>>>definitive answer on this). Worst-case scenario, run submix
>>>stems if you're worried about mix buss overstuffing (one stereo
>>>submix each for drums, bass & other low-end stuff, guitars,
>>>keys, vocals, and whatever else might be applicable - you could
>>>do a separate one for solo instruemnts & ambient tracks, for
>>>example); anyway, get yourself at least four submix stems, then
>>>import those into a new project either for a straight-ahead
>>>group mixdown or mastering & you can DEFINITELY hear a
>>>difference that way. It's not a huge difference, but it's
>>>definitely one you'll notice.
>>>
>>>I'm pretty sure the Steinberg stuff is the only DAW solution
>>>that will do literally everything you specify above, without
>>>exception.
>>>
>>>Neil
>>
>>
>> Me too.
>>
>>Seriously though, what Neil is suggesting with Cubase and RME
multifaces would work great, sound great, and be in your budget.
David.
John wrote:
> And how does a Studer
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Re: Shameless me plug. ;o) [message #73422 is a reply to message #73413] |
Sun, 01 October 2006 15:10 |
Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005
|
Senior Member |
|
|
at's correct. this is what I'm doing in Cubase SX right now. If
I
>>> track
>>>> > in
>>>> > Paris (which I love for tracking) then render the files, fly them
>>>> > overmy
>>>> > network, batch convert them to .wav format in Wavelab, then import
>>>> > them
>>>> > into
>>>> > a Cubase project to be processed and then set the SX tracks on mono
>>> output
>>>> > busses to stream the tracks back over lightpipe to Paris for further
>>>> > processing, panning and summing, then the system is very stable. It
>>> takes
>>>> > 30
>>>> > minutes to an hour per song (24 tracks average) to get this going.
>>>> > It's
>>>> > almost second nature to me now actually, but I'd like to avoid having
>>>> > to
>>>> > jump through the initial hoops of rendering, batch conversion in WL
>>>> > and
>>>> > importing into Cubase. With my Paris tracking template set up with
the
>>> EDS
>>>> > external inserts and the Sampleslide native insert ready to go and
>>>> > bypassed
>>>> > until mix time, I could just enable the inserts, highlight all Paris
>>>> > tracks
>>>> > and nudge them 10 + 1, click on my mix patchbay setup in Paris, open
>>> Forte
>>>> > to the default rack processor template and I'm mixing a 40 track
>>>> > project
>>>> > in
>>>> > 5 minutes with delay compensated UAD-1 plugins and external hardware
>>>> > on
>>>> > inserts and auxes in Paris.
>>>> >
>>>> > Deej
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:453152c8$1@linux...
>>>> >&
|
|
|
|
| Re: Shameless me plug. ;o) [message #73435 is a reply to message #73422] |
Sun, 01 October 2006 19:27 |
Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005
|
Senior Member |
|
|
r />
a
> >>> nightmare of a messy mix scenario in my mind. If I wanted to work this
> >>> way,
> >>> I'd just be using the UAD-1 plugs in Paris with the FXPansion 3.3
> > wrapper.
> >>> I
> >>> want all lateny to be consistent so that it can be consistently
> >>> compensated
> >>> rather than doing it differently *per track*, otherwise it defeats the
> >>> purpose to my way of thinking.
> >>>
> >>> Yeah....I'm wayyy to picky, I know.
> >>>
> >>> ;o)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> >>> news:453148b2$1@linux...
> >>>> Hey DJ,
> >>>>
> >>>> Quick question on your method... why are you nudging *all*
> >>>> Paris tracks? Seems pointless unless you meant nudge all
> >>>> tracks being used for external inserts only.
> >>>>
> >>>> Just checking ;-)
> >>>>
> >>>> David.
> >>>>
> >>>> DJ wrote:
> >>>>> First, I'll review my working method so far:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Basically where we are with this is as follows:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I can stream tracks from Paris *through* Forte, applying UAD-1 and
> >>>>> other
> >>>>> VST plugins and it appears that this would be usable in a mix
> > scenatio
> >>>>> with Paris automation.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Here are the steps involved if buffers for the native audio card are
> >>>>> set
> >>>>> to 512k:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Paris Editor: highlight all Paris tracks and nudge to the left by 10
> > +
> >>>>> 1
> >>>>> samples to compensate for buffer latency in native DAW
> >>>>> Paris Mixer: External insert in EDS inserts, Sampleslide on native
> >>>>> insert set to 48 samples to achieve sample accuracy with buffer
> >>>>> latency.
> >>>>> ( this will ned to be done for every track in the mix)
> >>>>>
> >>>> snip
> >>>
|
|
|
|
The PARIS Forums
Search
Help
Members
Register
Login
Home
