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| Latency is messed up and presets are gone. Is it UAD or FXpansion at fault? [message #77048] |
Fri, 15 December 2006 00:29  |
Tom Bruhl
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://news.com.com/1606-2_3-6148642.html?part=rss&tag=2 547-1_3-0-20=news
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> More and better pictures:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/the-apple-iphone/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is it a phone Is it a PDA? is it a movie playing iPod?
>>>>Is
>>>>>>>it
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>computer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running Mac OSX???
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Meet the Beatles!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Live blog
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.tuaw.com/2007/01/09/macworld-2007-keynote-liveblo g/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pictures of the iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macrumorslive.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.apple.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> More to come!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
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>No. Because when I use the clock in Paris to run one of the 8 ch pre's it
>works beautifully, but as soon as I run it with the Aardsync, it's as if
>the Aardsync wasn't even connected. I get snaps and pops through the roof.
>What my original question is, How do I know that the Aardsync is indeed
even
>producing clock? It doesn't appear to be!
>Steve
Do you have any application that will give you a firm signal or
indicator if it's being clocked & locked? Like CubaseSX, an RME
card w/driver? Pulsar?
Maybe Paris won't but plenty of others do - what about any of
the freebies like Ardour or ??? Do any of those have a timecode
or wordclock lock-confirmation "light" or any such thing? If
so, maybe download one & see if it's indeed working.
It sounds to me as if it may not be, from what you describe.
NeilForgot to mention....
1.) when you ran the 3 cables out of the word clock outs; were
they all the same length?
2.) are all the cables 75-ohm?
3.) does ANY of the stuff you're trying to clock require
workclock termination, and if so, were you not running it
terminated?
If the anwser to any of the above is "no", then there's your
likely problem, or at least the first place to throw in a fix.
Neil
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
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>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
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>>No. Because when I use the clock in Paris to run one of the 8 ch pre's
it
>>works beautifully, but as soon as I run it with the Aardsync, it's as if
>>the Aardsync wasn't even connected. I get snaps and pops through the roof.
>>What my original question is, How do I know that the Aardsync is indeed
>even
>>producing clock? It doesn't appear to be!
>>Steve
>
>Do you have any application that will give you a firm signal or
>indicator if it's being clocked & locked? Like CubaseSX, an RME
>card w/driver? Pulsar?
>
>the freebies like Ardour or ??? Do any of those have a timecode
>or wordclock lock-confirmation "light" or any such thing? If
>so, maybe download one & see if it's indeed working.
>
>It sounds to me as if it may not be, from what you describe.
>
>Neil"Dedric Terry" <dedric@echomg.com> wrote:
>Vegas is a superb video app. Under-rated for sure. Best workflow of most
>any NLE, and I've
>used most apps on the market, including Avid, Edius, FCP, etc. FCP is
>second on
>my list though - some things I like better in FCP, others in Vegas. Not
>much I like
>better in Avid though... Most editors/directors I do post for use FCP, but
>there is a
>strong and growing Vegas community.
>
>Admit it James, you really are a Mac zealot or you wouldn't think twice
>about
>anyone posting that a PC might be faster, much less reply to try and prove
>them wrong. :-)
I think you got it backwards. Go back and look at all the post where LaMont
has ripped on the G4 and G5 for being slow. This has been
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| Re: Latency is messed up and presets are gone. Is it UAD or FXpansion at fault? [message #77055 is a reply to message #77048] |
Fri, 15 December 2006 05:51  |
Rod Lincoln
Messages: 883
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de=related& amp;search
>>>>>
>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>LaMont I love ya man, but I gotta call you out on this one. The G4
you
>>>>>work
>>>>>>on is a 867Mhz right? That machine is from 2001! That's a six year
>> old
>>>>>>machine your talking about being slow!!!! Check it out at
>>>>>>www.apple-history.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You conveniently remember things the way you want to. When Apple
>>>>>>announced
>>>>>>that they had the fastest personal computer on the planet, they did.
>>
>>>That
>>>>>>was the truth, that's the fact, if it wasn't, Intel, AMD, Dell,
>>>>>>Gateway,
>>>>>>HP, and every other other PC manufacture would have sued Apple and
>>>>>>won!!!!!
>>>>>> Now might be a good time for you to file a suit against Apple if you
>>>think
>>>>>>they misrepresented a product they sold you. However, I think you
>>>>>>would
>>>>>>find that claim would be frivolous. Computer processors through out
>> history
>>>>>>have quickly leapfrogged each other in processing power. For a time
>> the
>>>>>>were the fastest. The testing was done independently. The Mac bashing
>>>>>PC
>>>>>>zealots spread the lie that the tests were fixed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The G4 was a good processor, it was noted in the industry for being
a
>>>work
>>>>>>horse. The G4 was fast in it's time, in computer years, that was a
>>>>>>long
>>>>>>time ago. Your still complaining about it, and calling Steve Jobs
a
>> lier.
>>>>>> Of corse every company uses marketing spin, Jobs doesn't lie. And
at
>>>>least
>>>>>>Apple doesn't steal the technology and call it their own. Once again
>>>the
>>>>>>G4 had a different architecture than the Pentium chips. The G4 had
8
>>>data
>>>>>>pipelines going in and out of the chip. The P4 had 2. The G4 had
way
>>>>more
>>>>>>cache on board than the P4 did, in some cases more than 4 times as
>>>>>>much.
>>>>>> The G4 would typically compete toe to toe with a P4 with twice the
>>>>>> clock
>>>>>>speed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apple, AMD. IBM and Motorola, started calling Intel out on "The MHz
>> Myth".
>>>>>> Clock speed no longer was the only determining factor in computing
>>>>>> speed,
>>>>>>system and processor architecture ruled the day, thus AMD's equal to
>> a
>>>>P4
>>>>>>XX GHz labeling on there processors. I still use my G4 1.25 MHz and
>> I
>>>>can
>>>>>>tell you from experience, it is faster than my p4 2.4 and 2.8 prescott
>>>>dual
>>>>>>threaded with faster bussing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>So you say that the G5 were slow. In there time, they weren't and
>>>>>>they're
>>>>>>still not slow! But you constantly say they are, and call Steve Jobs
>>>a
>>>>>lier.
>>>>>> Back when the G5 came out it was #3 in the world!
>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLujLtgBJC0&mode=related& amp;search=
>>>>>> The G5 is not a slow computer. Apple uses independent testing
>>>>>> laboratories.
>>>>>> It just more anti Mac bashing on your part.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You say that because Apple moved to Intel it proves that you were right
>>>>>all
>>>>>>along, not even close! When Apple Dumped the Mac cloning, motorola
was
>>>>>pissed.
>>>>>> I know first hand, they told me. They also told me they were going
>> to
>>>>>get
>>>>>>Apple back because they had a 90 million dollar charge off. They
>>>>>>stalled
>>>>>>Apple on G4 processor shipments and intentionally slowed the processor
>>>>speed
>>>>>>jumps.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Apple turned to IBM. When Jobs announced the G5 for the first time,
>> he
>>>>>stated
>>>>>>in the keynote that they would be at 3 GHz with in a year, and the
road
>>>>>map
>>>>>>looked great. That was IBMs road map. IBM couldn't deliver!!!!
Two
>>>>years
>>>>>>later Apple was at 2.7GHz, and not the newer generation G5s. The G5
>> was
>>>>>>too hot! Apple even turned to Delphi automotive to develop a cooling
>>>system.
>>>>>> They had no way of putting the G5 in a laptop. So they went with
one
>>>>of
>>>>>>Apples contingency plans they had been working on for five years,
>>>>>>Intel!
>>>>>> Intel had a new generation of processors coming out, that were faster,
>>>>>cooler
>>>>>>and they also had a low power consuming mobile processors. It was
a
>> no
>>>>>brainer,
>>>>>>win, win deal. Intel could deliver. I think it was also a message
to
>>>>MS
>>>>>>to keep working with Apple on MS Office development for the Mac.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You have to bash the Mac every chance you get. You have taken things
>>>personally.
>>>>>> Your venom for Steve Jobs is unbelievable. I think you need to be
>> honest
>>>>>>about things. How many new Mac computers have you personally bought?
>>>
>>>>Your
>>>>>>still not over Logic, and even though you don't use logic you rip on
>> it
>>>>>every
>>>>>>chance you get. It's the same old PC zealot stuff, Logic sucks and
>>>>>>it's
>>>>>>all done. Apple's going out of business any minute now, try again!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>In the past, some big organizations did some studied on cost of
>>>>>>operation.
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| Re: Latency is messed up and presets are gone. Is it UAD or FXpansion at fault? [message #77062 is a reply to message #77048] |
Fri, 15 December 2006 07:06 |
DJ
Messages: 1124
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rences having worked on both,
>>>but
>>>>>>>I'm
>>>>>>>>not pushing my views on anyone else, except over beers at the local
>>>pub
>>>>>>>with
>>>>>>>>friends who are ready, willing and able. (As an aside, they are 1.
>> Always
>>>>>>>>vehemont, and 2. Without any actual real world experience on one
of
>>>the
>>>>>>>>platforms in question).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I have to say that I am amazed by the venom that spews whenever
>>>>>>>>someone
>>>>>>>>points to something Mac. It seems irrational to me. As if Steve Jobs
>>>>personally
>>>>>>>>injured some on this group. Why do we worry so much about things
we
>>>have
>>>>>>>>no
>>>>>>>>control over? If someone points out a new plug, or a new amp, or
>>>>>>>>instrument,
>>>>>>>>things usually don't get personal. The recent donnybrook over
>>>>>>>>Politics,
>>>>>>>Religion
>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>War is regrettable but not surprising. But somebody pointing to a
new
>>>>>product
>>>>>>>>from a computer co and getting sarcasm, disgust, resentment and
>>>>>>>>mockery just makes no sense.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Ted
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Well Martin, you can call me a Mac zealot, but it's not exactly
>>>>>>>>>true.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Unlike
>>>>>>>>>you, I use and own both PCs and Macs. I actually use my PCs on
a
>> regular
>>>>>>>>>basis. I've used PCs longer than I've used Macs, by about ten
>>>>>>>>>years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I've
>>>>>>>>>been a licensed and authorized computer dealer. I've bought, sold,
>>>>and
>>>>>>>>built
>>>>>>>>>many PCs
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I think windows XP is a great improvement over MS's past operating
>>>systems.
>>>>>>>>> I wish there was a feature or two in Mac OSX that Windows XP has,
>>>but
>>>>>>>that's
>>>>>>>>>where it ends. I prefer Mac OSX to Windows because Windows machines
>>>>>are
>>>>>>>>>a major PITA to deal with.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>There are many other reasons why I don't like MS, one of which is
>> all
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>stuff they have ripped off from Apple. It's funny when people say
>>>MS/PC
>>>>>>>>>stuff is great and anything Apple sucks, when MS stole it from
>>>>>>>>>Apple.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Some
>>>>>>>>>recent examples are, Media player, Vista, and Zune. MS just
>>>>>>>>>announced
>>>>>>>at
>>>>>>>>>CES, that they are going to come out with set top boxes that are
>>>>>>>>>like
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>Apple TV box. MS/Sony's will be round instead of square, but what
>>>color?
>>>>>>>>> Gloss white like the apple products! It's the same thing. Hey,
>> may
>>>>>>be
>>>>>>>>>MS's branded products will be shit brown like the LG products. LOL!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I mention new products to give people here a heads up here. I have
>>>>mention
>>>>>>>>>all kinds of products including PC only products. It's the Mac
>>>>>>>>>bashing!
>>>>>>>>> You can't mention any thing Mac or Apple without some bashing here.
>>>>>
>>>>>>It's
>>>>>>>>>always the same guys. You have stated in the past that Mac OSX
>>>>>>>>>crashes.
>>>>>>>>> That the guys you work with have told you and you've see it. I've
>>>>been
>>>>>>>>>using Mac OSX every day for over five years now with out a crash.
>>
>>>I
>>>>>think
>>>>>>>>>the other Mac guys here would tell you pretty much the same thing.
>>>
>>>>I
>>>>>>don't
>>>>>>>>>know why they would have so much problems, but OSX is for the most
>>>part
>>>>>>>>problem
>>>>>>>>>free for most users. To state other wise is not correct generally
>>>speaking,
>>>>>>>>>and sounds like typical mac bashing.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I've never had a virus on a Mac and I've been using them everyday
>> since
>>>>>>>>1994!
>>>>>>>>> I would say, most of the guys here that use PCs for audio, don't
>> use
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>same machine for the internet, to a Mac user that's crazy and
>>>>>>>>>laughable.
>>>>>>>>> A lot of people say that a Mac cost twice as much as a PC, yeah,
>> but
>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>have to have two of them to safely do what a Mac does. So what's
>> it
>>>>>cost???
>>>>>>>>>The logic is funny. Yes you can build a PC cheaper, but look at
all
>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>problems and the hassle. Mac are not perfect, ricks G4 800 is an
>> example
>>>>>>>>>of a lemon, but it's not the norm. If you love Windows and you
love
>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>tinker
>>>>>>>>>and build cheap machines, that's cool! Different strokes for
>>>>>>>>>different
>>>>>>>>folks.
>>>>>>>>> Just don't bash the Mac or the Mac users.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>My original post about the iPhone was just to say check it out.
I
>>>was
>>>>>>>impressed
>>>>>>>>>with it's design and capabilities. It's slick! Of course the same
>>>>guys
>>>>>>>>>that bash any thing Apple Posted replys, and it becomes, So what,
>> My
>>>>>thing
>>>>>>>>>can do anything that can. My phone is better because it runs
>>>>>>>>>windows.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The
>>>>>>>>>old , my thing is bigger and better than your thing, pissing
>>>>>>>>>contest.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>My
>>>>>>>>>windows PC is better than your Mac. It wasn't a contest post, or
>> a
>>>>draw
>>>>>>>>>to arms challeng
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| Re: Latency is messed up and presets are gone. Is it UAD or FXpansion at fault? [message #77065 is a reply to message #77055] |
Fri, 15 December 2006 07:31 |
Tom Bruhl
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gt;>>It's
>>>>>>>>>always a good thing to know what your talking about first hand,
>>>>>>>>>especially
>>>>>>>>>when your going to bash something.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>James
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>Hmmm, A "Zealot" calling the kettle black.
>>>>>>>>>>I hope you re-read some of your recent posts in a week or two and
>>>discover
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>what we all see.
>>>>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>>>>Martin Harrington
>>>>>>>>>>www.lendanear-sound.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>news:45a5ca84$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>The Treo 700wx does all those things: With a touch screen to
>>>>>>>>>>>>boot.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>And while the Iphone syncs perfectly with itunes, the Treo 700
>> wx
>>>>>syncs
>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>Win Media player (with Play for sure technology) which is wayyy
>>>bettter
>>>>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>>>>>itunes..
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not knocking the Treo or the BB. I think for a windows user
>>>>they
>>>>>>>>>are
>>>>>>>>>>> perfect. Those products have had time to mature, and quite a
bit
>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>third
>>>>>>>>>>> party development. The iPhone looks pretty slick out of the
>>>>>>>>>>> gate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Only
>>>>>>>>>>> time will tell if the iPhone will be a success. I have to say
>> for
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> average
>>>>>>>>>>> guy the price is steep IMO, but not for someone with all the
>>>>>>>>>>> needs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Again,
>>>>>>>>>>> it should be noted, the iPhone is PC compatible.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Well I'm not sure what you mean about the Plays for sure thing
>> being
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> better
>>>>>>>>>>> than iTunes, but if your in to MS DRM, cool!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> One thing I'll point out about Windows Media Player, is that
they
>>>>>have
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> copied
>>>>>>>>>>> the itunes interface, Aqua theme/look, even the Itunes logo with
>>>>the
>>>>>>>>aqua
>>>>>>>>>>> musical note and the CD. It's all hard to not notice MS's
>>>>>>>>>>> blatant
>>>>>>rip
>>>>>>>>>off
>>>>>>>>>>> of Apple design and innovation, just look at Vista. They been
>> at
>>>>>it
>>>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>>>>> years.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>LaMont wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jamie, it's Kool-aid to actually believe that Apple has AGAIN
>>>>(Lol!!)
>>>>>>>>>>>>Re-invented
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the phone...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Well, it's a phone/media player/PDA/camera (what did I leave
>>>>>>>>>>>>>out?).
>>>>>>>>The
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>"reinvention" really has to do with the finger-touch-screen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>interface,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>right? So we'll see if it lives up to the hype when it ships.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Man, that guy (Mr Jobs) does not quit with his BS.. Please
Mr
>>>>Jobs
>>>>>>>>>stop
>>>>>>>>>>>>with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the propaganda.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Heh. It's a good thing you're immune to hyped advertising
>>>>>>>>>>>>>because
>>>>>>we're
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>surrounded by it from all directions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Next week, if Apple comes out with a new version of Logic,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they'll
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> claim
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to ahve Re-Invented the DAW..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>They can claim whatever they want, as long as the next version
>>>is
>>>>>>at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>least as solid as the current version, further streamlined in
>> the
>>>>>>UI,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>and no less capable. :^)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Liking a product from a particular company isn't necessarily
>>>>a
>>>>>>koolaid
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> proposition. Sometimes engineers earn their fans.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In this case, it looks like Apple's engineers have done
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different from other options, with some unique interactive
>> features
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UI implementations that may well be useful to a lot of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just as Palm and Blackberry have engineered products that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>earned
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the loyalty and praise of people who have found they need
the
>>>>>features
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they provide.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We can speculate before the iPhone ships but I'll withhold
>> my
>>>>>final
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> judgment until it's available to try.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Having said that, my first impression of all three, the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iPhone,
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Treo, the Blackberry, is that they ALL seem too big and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clumsy
>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phones.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So far, all I want from my phone is that it be a phone, and
>>>that
>>>>>>>>it
>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compact and pocketable. My little fliptop LG does the trick.
>>>>That
>>>>>>>>>it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> speakerphone is a bonus.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I want a computer, I want something with a real screen
>>>and
>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keyboard I can really type on, that runs my goto productivity
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> applications (video, audio, animation, and graphics apps,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plus
>>>>>>all
>>>>>>>>>my
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> open source office, web and email apps). Which means for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those
>>>>>>times
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when I need a computer with me, I take my PowerBook.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I need a camera, I want a real camera, currently a Canon
>>>>>digital
>>>>>>>>>>>>SLR.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If I can get by with something small that I can type on,
I
>> use
>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>Psion
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PDA (like a mini-laptop). Also works as a voice recorder.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cool
>>>>>>little
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> box but long discontinued.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm resisting the all-in-one device. What if it fails? That's
>>>>>a
>>>>>>>lot
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eggs in one basket. But I can see the appeal of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all-in-one
>>>>>>if
>>>>>>>>>it
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could really cover what I need. None of them quite do that
>> now.
>>>>>>>None
>>>>>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But for people who have different needs, each of the clunky
>>>phones
>>>>>>>>>has
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appealing features. And for those people, it's not a matter
>>>of
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> koolaid,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's a matter of using what works for them. What covers their
>>>>>needs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Choice is good.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LaMont wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> James,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once again, you are "drinking the Apple Kool-aid" from Mr
>> Jobs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Iphone is cool, but not revolutionary. My Treo 700Wx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Windows)
>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a s cool and Superior AND is very comaptible with my PC
and
>>>>all
>>>>>>>>MS
>>>>>>>>>>> applications
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and other Windows apps.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.treo.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here the Keynote video demo that explains the iPhone in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> detail,
>>>>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>>>>might
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to watch it. The features, design and user interface
>>>>are
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> superior.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/j47d52oo/event/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Very cool..But, I'm still gleaming over my new Treo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 700wx..
>>>>>>It
>>>>>>>>>like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> having
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MP3player
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ms word,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Excel,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> powerpoint,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Outlook 2003,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Media Player 10
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sprint TV
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Camera
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Recorder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cool keyboard
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Very fast Internet connection speeds..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This thing is IS like carring around a laptop in my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pocket..
>>>>>>>:)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For Pc user(Windows) is does not get any better than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LaMont
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some video highlights:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://news.com.com/1606-2_3-6148642.html?part=rss&tag=2 547-1_3-0-20=news
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> More and better pictures:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/the-apple-iphone/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is it a phone Is it a PDA? is it a movie playing iPod?
>>>>>Is
>>>>>>>>it
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>computer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running Mac OSX???
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Meet the Beatles!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Live blog
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.tuaw.com/2007/01/09/macworld-2007-keynote-liveblo g/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pictures of the iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macrumorslive.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.apple.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> More to come!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>On 1/12/07 9:18 PM, in article 45a84f74$1@linux, "James McCloskey"
<excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> I think you got it backwards. Go back and look at all the post where LaMont
> has ripped on the G4 and G5 for being slow. This has been going on for a
> couple of years now. The Kool-Aid stuff, etc. is insulting and unnecessary.
> But then again, you already know this.
>
>
Nah, no need, Lamont's right, the G4s and G5s were slower than comparably
priced PCs in cpu power at least. Only the new Macintels have comparable cpu
and buss speeds, since they are the same hardware as a stock core 2 duo PC,
just a different case and OS.
I was just giving you a hard time for not conceding that one. :-)
I still might not go with a Mac for more practical application related
reasons, but they compete on more level ground now
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| Re: Latency is messed up and presets are gone. Is it UAD or FXpansion at fault? [message #77081 is a reply to message #77065] |
Fri, 15 December 2006 11:24 |
Rod Lincoln
Messages: 883
Registered: September 2005
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one (other than overpaying for a Macbook
>> for
>>>>>> someone else, and then complaining about it) I'll be amazed. Sorry
you
>>>>
>>>>>> had to subject yourself to working on a Mac today, but even sorrier
>> you
>>>>>> had to infect it with XP. ;^)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TCB wrote:
>>>>>>> So, I had to set up XP on a Mac Book today. The child of an important
>>>>> person
>>>>>>> on my office had one and, surprise, most of the games a 12 year old
>> likes
>>>>>>> to play don't have Mac versions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, once and for all I can put to rest the notion that Apple hardware
>>>>> is
>>>>>>> somehow 'super special' and thus justifies the higher price. Intel
>> chipset,
>>>>>>> Intel integrated graphics, Atheros wireless, Marvell NIC, generic
>>>>>>> firewire
>>>>>>> controller. The CD/DVD burner was the slot loading kind, so that's
>> slightly
>>>>>>> cool (unless you want to pop out the CD before the machine boots
when
>>>>> it's
>>>>>>> nice to have a physical switch), but that's about the only thing
>>>>>>> unusual
>>>>>>> about the hardware. If you were to show me the XP device list for
a
>> Mac
>>>>> Book
>>>>>>> and the same list from a Dell 640m (two of which I've also set up
>>>>>>> recently)
>>>>>>> I would have given a _slight_ preference to the Dell, mostly because
>>>> it
>>>>> uses
>>>>>>> an Intel wireless chipset that does b/g/n and bluetooth on one chip,
>>>> and
>>>>>>> I've had very good luck with those wireless cards. A 640m also has
>> a
>>>> larger
>>>>>>> screed and costs around $750.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In better news, I wound up on modular synth dreamland for about five
>>>> hours
>>>>>>> last night, wiring up my John Bowen Pro Wave into modular patches
and
>>>>> using
>>>>>>> it to feed vocoders and all of the things that make computer
>>>>>>> recording
>>>>> worth
>>>>>>> it. Then I forgot to save the presets, but hey, that's the way it
>>>>>>> goes.
>>>>>>> TCB
>>>>
>>
>
>Sorry, here is what I meant to post:
Hey remember this commercial?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsln8p8c8y0&mode=related& amp;search
That's a pretty big claim!
Since LaMont is right, maybe you guys should file a suit against Apple, IBM
and Jeff GoldBlum; ) Apple has so many frivolous law suits against them
right now, maybe they would settle quick, or maybe their attorneys would
squash you like a bug. And of course, I'm just kidding with you.
Power is no longer an issue or debate, thank god! Now it's all a matter
of OS, applications, diversity, capabilities, and your needs. Good luck with
your system purchase.
J
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| Re: Latency is messed up and presets are gone. Is it UAD or FXpansion at fault? [message #77116 is a reply to message #77081] |
Fri, 15 December 2006 22:38 |
Tom Bruhl
Messages: 1368
Registered: June 2007
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when it ships.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Man, that guy (Mr Jobs) does not quit with his BS.. Please
>Mr
>>>>>Jobs
>>>>>>>>>>stop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the propaganda.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Heh. It's a good thing you're immune to hyped advertising
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>because
>>>>>>>we're
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>surrounded by it from all directions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Next week, if Apple comes out with a new version of Logic,
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they'll
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> claim
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to ahve Re-Invented the DAW..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>They can claim whatever they want, as long as the next version
>>>>is
>>>>>>>at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>least as solid as the current version, further streamlined
in
>>> the
>>>>>>>UI,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>and no less capable. :^)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Liking a product from a particular company isn't necessarily
>>>>>a
>>>>>>>koolaid
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> proposition. Sometimes engineers earn their fans.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In this case, it looks like Apple's engineers have done
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different from other options, with some unique interactive
>>> features
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UI implementations that may well be useful to a lot of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just as Palm and Blackberry have engineered products that
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>earned
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the loyalty and praise of people who have found they need
>the
>>>>>>features
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they provide.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We can speculate before the iPhone ships but I'll withhold
>>> my
>>>>>>final
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> judgment until it's available to try.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Having said that, my first impression of all three, the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iPhone,
>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Treo, the Blackberry, is that they ALL seem too big and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clumsy
>>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phones.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So far, all I want from my phone is that it be a phone,
and
>>>>that
>>>>>>>>>it
>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compact and pocketable. My little fliptop LG does the trick.
>>>>>That
>>>>>>>>>>it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> speakerphone is a bonus.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I want a computer, I want something with a real screen
>>>>and
>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keyboard I can really type on, that runs my goto productivity
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> applications (video, audio, animation, and graphics apps,
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plus
>>>>>>>all
>>>>>>>>>>my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> open source office, web and email apps). Which means for
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those
>>>>>>>times
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when I need a computer with me, I take my PowerBook.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I need a camera, I want a real camera, currently a
Canon
>>>>>>digital
>>>>>>>>>>>>>SLR.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If I can get by with something small that I can type on,
>I
>>> use
>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>Psion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PDA (like a mini-laptop). Also works as a voice recorder.
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cool
>>>>>>>little
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> box but long discontinued.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm resisting the all-in-one device. What if it fails? That's
>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>lot
>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eggs in one basket. But I can see the appeal of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all-in-one
>>>>>>>if
>>>>>>>>>>it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could really cover what I need. None of them quite do that
>>> now.
>>>>>>>>None
>>>>>>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But for people who have different needs, each of the clunky
>>>>phones
>>>>>>>>>>has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appealing features. And for those people, it's not a matter
>>>>of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> koolaid,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's a matter of using what works for them. What covers
their
>>>>>>needs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Choice is good.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LaMont wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> James,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once again, you are "drinking the Apple Kool-aid" from
Mr
>>> Jobs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Iphone is cool, but not revolutionary. My Treo 700Wx
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Windows)
>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a s cool and Superior AND is very comaptible with my PC
>and
>>>>>all
>>>>>>>>>MS
>>>>>>>>>>>> applications
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and other Windows apps.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.treo.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here the Keynote video demo that explains the iPhone in
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> detail,
>>>>>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>might
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to watch it. The features, design and user interface
>>>>>are
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> superior.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/j47d52oo/event/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Very cool..But, I'm still gleaming over my new Treo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 700wx..
>>>>>>>It
>>>>>>>>>>like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> having
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>&g
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