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| Re: The nut we have to crack [message #74991 is a reply to message #74713] |
Fri, 27 October 2006 21:19   |
Martin Harrington
Messages: 560
Registered: September 2005
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everything happening as I had hoped so far. The RME ADI4 DD
>> > >is
>> > >interfaced with the AES I/O of my hardware reverbs, bussing through
>> > >the
>> > >Scope mixer and returning to 4 x Paris auxes on Mec 4. this is exactly
>> what
>> > >I had envisioned when I went crazy and decided to jump into this feet
>> > >first......and it's drop dead./rock solid stable.as in dedicated
> hardware
>> > >DSP based stable. I'm very impressed so far.
>> > >
>> > >The only thing I have yet to do is to patch external hardware across
> the
>> > >inserts in Cubase using the A16U AD/DA converter. Once I've got that
>> > >working, I'll be a happy camper. That's going to happen either later
>> tonight
>> > >or tomorrow.
>> > >
>> > >Deej
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >Deej
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>LaMont, that sounds amazing.
Deej, if your system insists on being stable, what're we gonna talk
about around here? ;^) Glad the Pulsar is working out!
In my neck o' the woods, I'm still waiting for the NI Komplete 4 update.
It's coming on the slow boat from Germany - should finally be here this
week. Hopefully it won't do anything to rock the boat, Logic Pro has
been very reliable since the last update.
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
LaMont wrote:
> That's good news DJ.. For me, I'm going for both eye-candy, & killer
> tactile interface..With on-aboard recording. Like you, I've been on
> this journey for 3 years now searching for a Killer Paris
> replacement.
>
> I know this is an investement, but I've made up my mide to drop over
> 30k for a rig 2 years ago.
>
> I see now, that even with great multi-core processors, theres nothing
> like a dedeicaed DSP based DAW. Sorry Native guys and gals, but it's
> true.. Yes, you can ge the job done, but there's always workarounds
> and the likes..
>
> When I found ou that Fairlight was in fact using Scope based plugins
> for their core plugins, that sealed the deal. In fact, the old
> Fairlight DSP system (DREAM 1) was based on the scope pro 15 dsp's..
> But, now with their new Crystal core technology, they can now sel a
> rig that's half the cost and 20 times the power..
>
> To say that I'm jacked is an understatement. Along with the DreamII
> rig, I'll have a Dual Opteron PC + Magma for rewired apps(acid),
> Giga, Neundo..All jacked into the Dream II Core..
>
>
>
> "DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
>> La Mont,
>>
>> I'm playing back a 40 track project interfacing the Pulsar ADAT
>> with Paris ADAT. It's very stable and sounds friggin incredible.
>>
>> I'm still working out a few routing FU's that I seem to have
>> created. Also, I'm not entirely happy with the Pulsar midi routing
>> to/from my digipatch digital patchbay. It's got me bamboozled right
>> now but other than that,
> I
>> think I'm going to hold off on the Fairlight for a while. this
>> thing sounds great and so far is extremely stable.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Deej
>>
>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message
>> news:455dd1e3$1@linux...
>>> Well, I've been on my search for another DSP professional
>>> solution. My
>> search
>>> for the ultimate Paris replacement has sent looking at :
>>>
>>> 1) Soundscape system 2) Pro Tools HD-3 With Dcommand Controller
>>> 3) Nuendo3-With Euphonix MC5 4) Fairlight Crysltal Core Setup/
>>> Constellation XT 5) Scope II Platform..
>>>
>>> Well, it's looking like the Fairlight solution is winnning and is
>>> the
>> future
>>> of DSP DAW.
>>>
>>> Take a look at the videos and let me know what you guys think..
>>>
>>> http://img3.harmony-central.com/Video/aes121/Fairlight_CC-1. mp4
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>thank you.
On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 08:44:55 -0700, "DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
>OK................that's it. My Tijuana bordello story doesn't even compare
>to this level of sickness. .
>
>
>
>
>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:60ltl25ovkv6n7un1jdjujd36j5te2h24b@4ax.com...
>> and don't forget "you're so vein"
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 18:26:19 -0600, Paul Braun
>> <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:
>>
>> >On 18 Nov 2006 00:39:04 +1000, "Neil" <IOUOI@OIU.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>glad to here he's okay...if not a song they already have a >drink named
>> >>after theis...the bloody brain.
>> >>
>> >>Well, you could come up with a song pretty easily:
>> >>
>> >>Sung to the tune of "Casey Jones" by the Grateful Dead:
>> >>
>> >>Blood on my brain, feeling some pain,
>> >>Ambulance you'd better, hit top speed,
>> >>E.R. ahead, trouble behind,
>> >>Doctor please be ready, to fix up my mind,
>> >>
>> >
>> >ROTFLMFAO!!!!
>> >
>> >Damn, dood, that was quick! And good! Gonna put that as a hidden
>> >"bonus track" on "Bigger Buildings"???
>> >
>> >pab
>>
>I'm out of luck there. I'm pretty much out of the recording industry
loop. I'm in a small, new town, and I don't know anyone yet. I guess I
could call some computer techs and see if they can transfer to a RAID
drive for me.
Martin Harrington wrote:
> John,
> If you know anyone that has an "old" AVID video editing system, see if you
> can hook the drive up to their system, and copy the files to their newer
> drives which are most probably IDE, and get them to burn a DVD or the like.
> Never know, it may work.Punch in-punch out in Cubase.with 40 tracks playing back at 3ms buffers with
the project running at 80% CPU and the UAD-1's running at 90% DSP usage?
That would definitely be the acid test, wouldn't it? Since I don't record
in Cubase, I haven't tried this. I'll give it a try today.
;o)
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
news:455ffacd@linux...
> Have you tested the punch in/out yet?
>
> AA
>
> "DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote in message news:455fe04c@linux...
> > OK........I bumped up the UAD-1 card usage to 90% and the project has
been
> > looping at 3ms buffers for almost an hour now with Cubase showing 80%
CPU
> > usage. There's an occasional light crackle when a loud passage comes
along
> > and the virtual needles on the plugin meters move rapidly on the
> > screen.....but it just keeps right on playing...........no crashes.
> >
> > Cool beans!
> >
> >
> > "DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote in message news:455fd4fa@linux...
> >> Just an FYI........I've been running this machine synced to Paris since
> >> 10:00 this morning and I've been configuring the ASIO drivers fro
various
> >> templates and playing back projects pretty much nonstop for 11 hours.
Not
> >> one crash. Not a single one. Even if it didn't have all of this
> >> incredible
> >> (and intuitive) routing functionality and onboard DSP, I would have
paid
> > the
> >> extra $$$ just to achieve this kind of stability.
> >>
> >> Now I hope someone doesn't read this and go out and drop a bundle on
this
> >> hardware and it not function propertly, but in "my" particular
> > situationwith
> >> "my* particular mobo and peripheral hardware, it's a friggin dream com
> > true.
> >>
> >> I've got a 40 track project playing back looped in cubase right now.
I'm
> >> just going to let it go for a few hours and see if I can get it to
crash.
> >>
> >> Deej
> >>
> >> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:455fb6b8$1@linux...
> >> >
> >> > Aw crikey, another $2k out the window. Why couldn't you say it really
> >> sucks?
> >> > You're not even a synth guy and you like it that much.
> >> >
> >> > Now we're just down to getting ADAT I/O or Z-link. Not a big deal for
> >> someone
> >> > who doesn't record a lot of live instruments, I guess, but I think
one
> > of
> >> > the 14 DSP cards is in the very near future.
> >> >
> >> > TCB
> >> >
> >> > "DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
> >> > >I've got everything happening as I had hoped so far. The RME ADI4 DD
> >> > >is
> >> > >interfaced with the AES I/O of my hardware reverbs, bussing through
> >> > >the
> >> > >Scope mixer and returning to 4 x Paris auxes on Mec 4. this is
exactly
> >> what
> >> > >I had envisioned when I went crazy and decided to jump into this
feet
> >> > >first......and it's drop dead./rock solid stable.as in dedicated
> > hardware
> >> > >DSP based stable. I'm very impressed so far.
> >> > >
> >> > >The only thing I have yet to do is to patch external hardware across
> > the
> >> > >inserts in Cubase using the A16U AD/DA converter. Once I've got that
> >> > >working, I'll be a happy camper. That's going to happen either later
> >> tonight
> >> > >or tomorrow.
> >> > >
> >> > >Deej
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >Deej
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >&
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| Re: The nut we have to crack [message #74993 is a reply to message #74728] |
Fri, 27 October 2006 21:32 |
Martin Harrington
Messages: 560
Registered: September 2005
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's..
> But, now with their new Crystal core technology, they can now sel a rig that's
> half the cost and 20 times the power..
>
> To say that I'm jacked is an understatement. Along with the DreamII rig,
> I'll have a Dual Opteron PC + Magma for rewired apps(acid), Giga, Neundo..All
> jacked into the Dream II Core..
>
>
>
> "DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
>> La Mont,
>>
>> I'm playing back a 40 track project interfacing the Pulsar ADAT with Paris
>> ADAT. It's very stable and sounds friggin incredible.
>>
>> I'm still working out a few routing FU's that I seem to have created. Also,
>> I'm not entirely happy with the Pulsar midi routing to/from my digipatch
>> digital patchbay. It's got me bamboozled right now but other than that,
> I
>> think I'm going to hold off on the Fairlight for a while. this thing sounds
>> great and so far is extremely stable.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Deej
>>
>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:455dd1e3$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Well, I've been on my search for another DSP professional solution. My
>> search
>>> for the ultimate Paris replacement has sent looking at :
>>>
>>> 1) Soundscape system
>>> 2) Pro Tools HD-3 With Dcommand Controller
>>> 3) Nuendo3-With Euphonix MC5
>>> 4) Fairlight Crysltal Core Setup/ Constellation XT
>>> 5) Scope II Platform..
>>>
>>> Well, it's looking like the Fairlight solution is winnning and is the
>> future
>>> of DSP DAW.
>>>
>>> Take a look at the videos and let me know what you guys think..
>>>
>>> http://img3.harmony-central.com/Video/aes121/Fairlight_CC-1. mp4
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>Hey Dedric,
I acually planned to use the Dreamm(contellation)XTII set up as my primary
mixer/recorder/editor.
I did not plan on using other DAWs as my primary, only for the occassional
use like Pro Tools /Nuendo. But, I was told by fairlight that they will have
a HUI layer very soon, and hey are working with steinberg about the posibilliies
of the use of CC1.
Also, they have the sx-48 i/o unit which goes up to 192 sample rate and provides
48 in 48 outs .And multiple units can be stacked .. The CC1 already has a
plethora of Scope II dsp plugins to offer, plus you can use VST plugins..
That's more than enough..
Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>Lamont,
>
>It is my understanding from Fairlight that the CC-1 is not yet integrated
>with any other DAW software or plugins. It is currently only sold with
the
>SX20 interface and Satellite AV controller with no plans to separate them.
>You would have to run their editor to use any of the plugins and stream
>other apps into it as audio streams - as you would with rewiring Reason
into
>Nuendo. While that is great for post houses that only need a few features
>from the native DAW, Reason, or other plugins, to me it has yet to
>materialize into a fully integrated solution for music production (e.g.
>Nuendo or other DAWs and plugins being developed to run all or part of the
>audio streaming through the CC-1, at least some key VST plugins ported to
>run locally on the CC-1 dsp, *and* the CC-1 being sold standalone).
>
>This is one I've been watching for a while and that's what I've been told
by
>a Fairlight rep. That may be exactly what you need, but for me it needs
buy
>from 3rd party companies to be a viable addition to my setup.
>
>Regards,
>Dedric
>
>On 11/18/06 11:24
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| Re: The nut we have to crack [message #74999 is a reply to message #74993] |
Sat, 28 October 2006 02:58 |
Ted Gerber
Messages: 705
Registered: January 2009
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unnatural acts. That's something I've never really felt with a
>>native platform.
>>
>>;o)
>>
>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:455fb6b8$1@linux...
>>
>>>Aw crikey, another $2k out the window. Why couldn't you say it really
>>
>>sucks?
>>
>>>You're not even a synth guy and you like it that much.
>>>
>>>Now we're just down to getting ADAT I/O or Z-link. Not a big deal for
>>
>>someone
>>
>>>who doesn't record a lot of live instruments, I guess, but I think one
>
> of
>
>>>the 14 DSP cards is in the very near future.
>>>
>>>TCB
>>>
>>>"DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I've got everything happening as I had hoped so far. The RME ADI4 DD
>
> is
>
>>>>interfaced with the AES I/O of my hardware reverbs, bussing through the
>>>>Scope mixer and returning to 4 x Paris auxes on Mec 4. this is exactly
>>
>>what
>>
>>>>I had envisioned when I went crazy and decided to jump into this feet
>>>>first......and it's drop dead./rock solid stable.as in dedicated hardware
>>>>DSP based stable. I'm very impressed so far.
>>>>
>>>>The only thing I have yet to do is to patch external hardware across
>
> the
>
>>>>inserts in Cubase using the A16U AD/DA converter. Once I've got that
>>>>working, I'll be a happy camper. That's going to happen either later
>>
>>tonight
>>
>>>>or tomorrow.
>>>>
>>>>Deej
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Deej
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>Cool. Is Deej getting a kickback? He should.
Keep me informed.
TCB
Morgan <morganp@ntplx.net> wrote:
>Hi Thad,
>
>I'm working with Ali @ Creamware on a PARIS group buy :)
>Should have pricing worked out by Monday.
>
>Morgan :)
>
>
>TCB wrote:
>> I have to say, the stability you describe is _precisely_ what I wouldn't
expect.
>>
>>
>> I'm going to take one last look at other options and probably pick up
the
>> Scope Pro card. In theory that might decrease the likelihood I'll have
problems
>> like you're having with those funny cables. Then, John Bowen synths .Thanks Neil, good thinking.
Neil wrote:
> John, try a few TV stations in your market - call their
> production manager & ask what they'd charge to transfer some
> stuff for you... it's tough to find a TV station that doesn't
> have an Avid system of some type.
>
> Neil
>
> John <nosp@m.com> wrote:
>> I'm out of luck there. I'm pretty much out of the recording industry
>> loop. I'm in a small, new town, and I don't know anyone yet. I guess I
>> could call some computer techs and see if they can transfer to a RAID
>> drive for me.
>>
>> Martin Harrington wrote:
>>> John,
>>> If you know anyone that has an "old" AVID video editing system, see if
> you
>>> can hook the drive up to their system, and copy the files to their newer
>
>>> drives which are most probably IDE, and get them to burn a DVD or the
> like.
>>> Never know, it may work.
>Morgan,
That RME ADI4 DD is working great with the Creamware setup. Thanks for your
help with that.
;o)
"Morgan" <morganp@ntplx.net> wrote in message news:4560d600@linux...
> Hi Thad,
>
> I'm working with Ali @ Creamware on a PARIS group buy :)
> Should have pricing worked out by Monday.
>
> Morgan :)
>
>
> TCB wrote:
> > I have to say, the stability you describe is _precisely_ what I wouldn't
expect.
> >
> >
> > I'm going to take one last look at other options and probably pick up
the
> > Scope Pro card. In theory that might decrease the likelihood I'll have
problems
> > like you're having with those funny cables. Then, John Bowen synths . .
> >
> >
> > TCB
> >
> > "DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
> >
>
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