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| I'm having a really hard time explaining myself :-) [message #75006] |
Sat, 28 October 2006 07:01  |
chuck duffy
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nd a third party package of modules that
sounds
> > dreamy as well.
> >
> > So for me I expect the Pulsar will be mostly a synth card, plus some
effects,
> > and the UAD will continue to be my 'bread and butter' EQ/Comp card. That
> > will leave me with native stuff only for really low CPU things like
samplers
> > and Absynth. Sounds like a good rig to me.
> >
> > TCB
> >
> > Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
> >> DJ, Neil, Thad, and others - I've only skimmed the thread here and
there
> > so
> >> pardon if you've answered this, but what makes the Pulsar system more
> >> attractive to you than Soundscape or some other DSP system? Just
curious.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Dedric
> >>
> >> On 11/19/06 6:59 PM, in article 4561099d@linux, "DJ"
<nowayjose@dude.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> ..but you're still gonna want more cards.....
> >>>
> >>> ;o)
> >>>
> >>> "Neil" <Report message to a moderator
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| Re: I'm having a really hard time explaining myself :-) [message #75012 is a reply to message #75006] |
Sat, 28 October 2006 08:35  |
Dimitrios
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nd
> >
> >>>some of that development team has moved on. It's also a semi-open
> >
> > platform
> >
> >>>so third parties have gotten involved as well. As a synth guy, John
> >
> > Bowen
> >
> >>>was one of the main people behind the Sequential Circuits synths back
in
> >>>the day, including the ProphetVS and then after SC was swallowed up by
> >
> > Korg
> >
> >>>the Wavestation series, among others. Now he develops for Scope and
> >
> > sells
> >
> >>>his stuff at http://www.zargmusic.com/. For me, anyone putting Waldorf
> >
> > Wave
> >
> >>>oscillators into a slightly hot-rodded Prophet 5 emulation is pretty
> >
> > cool,
> >
> >>>when it's John Bowen that's something like if Bob Moog had decided to
> >
> > learn
> >
> >>>to program SHARCs and started another company. Oh, and there's a _sick_
> >>>modular
> >>>synth that comes with it and a third party package of modules that
> >
> > sounds
> >
> >>>dreamy as well.
> >>>
> >>>So for me I expect the Pulsar will be mostly a synth card, plus some
> >
> > effects,
> >
> >>>and the UAD will continue to be my 'bread and butter' EQ/Comp card.
That
> >>>will leave me with native stuff only for really low CPU things like
> >
> > samplers
> >
> >>>and Absynth. Sounds like a good rig to me.
> >>>
> >>>TCB
> >>>
> >>>Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>DJ, Neil, Thad, and others - I've only skimmed the thread here and
> >
> > there
> >
> >>>so
> >>>
> >>>>pardon if you've answered this, but what makes the Pulsar system more
> >>>>attractive to you than Soundscape or some other DSP system? Just
> >
> > curious.
> >
> >>>>Regards,
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| Re: I'm having a really hard time explaining myself :-) [message #75014 is a reply to message #75013] |
Sat, 28 October 2006 10:06 |
brandon[2]
Messages: 380
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en running all day and hasn't crashed once. I feel like
>
> the
>
>>>dust is starting to settle and the realization is setting in that I just
>
> won
>
>>>a 9 year long battle to achieve what I want in a DAW..but it's kind of a
>>>bittersweet feeling considering I'm having to use two DAWs.......but
>
> I've
>
>>>had the scenario working more or less since last Christmas. All I was
>>>lacking was stability.
>>>
>>>Now if this 9 year old Paris system will just hold together.......;o)
>>>
>>>
>>>"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message
>>>news:C1866D55.5905%dterry@keyofd.net...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Thanks Thad and DJ - that's what I've considered it for over the years -
>
> a
>
>>>>synth card mainly. Good to hear that kind of recommendation. While I
>>>
>>>would
>>>
>>>
>>>>love to fill the room with some hardware synths, this sounds more
>>>
>>>practical
>>>
>>>
>>>>to augment the softsynth library at some point, as long as Creamware
>
> lasts
>
>>>a
>>>
>>>
>>>>bit longer than Paris or Lexicon's Studio 12T, etc.
>>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>Dedric
>>>>
>>>>On 11/19/06 8:26 PM, in article 4561126a$1@linux, "TCB"
>>>
>>><nobody@ishere.com>
>>>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Different things for different people. Deej is getting ungodly
>
> stability
>
>>>with
>>>
>>>
>>>>>it mostly as a mixer/ADAT interface in his whacked PARIS/SX rig. For
>
> me,
>
>>>>>I reviewed a Pulsar computer card way back when and also the Noah synth
>>>
>>>just
>>>
>>>
>>>>>as Home Recording was gasping its last and I had to go get a real job
>>>
>>>again.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Creamware writes some *superb* sounding synthesizers, though I
>>>
>>>understand
>>>
>>>
>>>>>some of that development team has moved on. It's also a semi-open
>>>
>>>platform
>>>
>>>
>>>>>so third parties have gotten involved as well. As a synth guy, John
>>>
>>>Bowen
>>>
>>>
>>>>>was one of the main people behind the Sequential Circuits synths back
>
> in
>
>>>>>the day, including the ProphetVS and then after SC was swallowed up by
>>>
>>>Korg
>>>
>>>
>>>>>the Wavestation series, among others. Now he develops for Scope and
>>>
>>>sells
>>>
>>>
>>>>>his stuff at http://www.zargmusic.com/. For me, anyone putting Waldorf
>>>
>>>Wave
>>>
>>>
>>>>>oscillators into a slightly hot-rodded Prophet 5 emulation is pretty
>>>
>>>cool,
>>>
>>>
>>>>>when it's John Bowen that's something like if Bob Moog had decided to
>>>
>>>learn
>>>
>>>
>>>>>to program SHARCs and started another company. Oh, and there's a _sick_
>>>>>modular
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| Re: I'm having a really hard time explaining myself :-) [message #75018 is a reply to message #75014] |
Sat, 28 October 2006 10:35 |
chuck duffy
Messages: 453
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gt;>
> >>>
> >>>>>some of that development team has moved on. It's also a semi-open
> >>>
> >>>platform
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>so third parties have gotten involved as well. As a synth guy, John
> >>>
> >>>Bowen
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>was one of the main people behind the Sequential Circuits synths back
> >
> > in
> >
> >>>>>the day, including the ProphetVS and then after SC was swallowed up
by
> >>>
> >>>Korg
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>the Wavestation series, among others. Now he develops for Scope and
> >>>
> >>>sells
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>his stuff at http://www.zargmusic.com/. For me, anyone putting
Waldorf
> >>>
> >>>Wave
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>oscillators into a slightly hot-rodded Prophet 5 emulation is pretty
> >>>
> >>>cool,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>when it's John Bowen that's something like if Bob Moog had decided to
> >>>
> >>>learn
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>to program SHARCs and started another company. Oh, and there's a
_sick_
> >>>>>modular
> >>>>>synth that comes with it and a third party package of modules that
> >>>
> >>>sounds
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>dreamy as well.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>So for me I expect the Pulsar will be mostly a synth card, plus some
> >>>
> >>>effects,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>and the UAD will continue to be my 'bread and butter' EQ/Comp card.
> >
> > That
> >
> >>>>>will leave me with native stuff only for really low CPU things like
> >>>
> >>>samplers
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>and Absynth. Sounds like a good rig to me.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>TCB
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>DJ, Neil, Thad, and others - I've only skimmed the thread here and
> >>>
> >>>there
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>so
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>pardon if you've answered this, but what makes the Pulsar system
more
> >>>>>>attractive to you than Soundscape or some other DSP system? Just
> >>>
> >>>curious.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>Regards,
> >>>>>>Dedric
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>On 11/19/06 6:59 PM, in article 4561099d@linux, "DJ"
> >>>
> >>><nowayjose@dude.net>
> >>>
> >>>>>>wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>..but you're still gonna want more cards.....
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>;o)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OI.com> wrote in message news:4560f252$1@linux...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>"DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Don't worry.you're gonna want more cards.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>One card had better do the trick... I can't afford more cards!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>My gearsluttishness has reached new precedents already...
> >>>>>>>>I may have to sell some of my less-util
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| Re: I'm having a really hard time explaining myself :-) [message #75019 is a reply to message #75009] |
Sat, 28 October 2006 10:37 |
chuck duffy
Messages: 453
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ized stuff to cover what
> >>>>>>>>I've already bought!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Neil
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>
> >
> >Many, (and I mean Many), studios here in Australia use the Fairlight,
especially post studios, and have been since the early 90's.
One of the biggest Film mixing facilities in Oz has been using Fairlight for
years, (Audioloc)
www.audioloc.com.au
--
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com
"Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:4560a245@linux...
> Howdy.
>
> Last time I raised my head Fairlight was famous for the CMI sampler back
> in
> the '80s. Now I hear they've been selling AV workstations for years now.
> I'm
> surprised I had never run across this sort of stuff, as I have been active
> in various online forums for years.
>
> Anybody got a short run-down on the basics? How many workstations have
> they
> sold? Who's using them? How robust are they financially? Do they have a
> chance in hell of denting the DAW market?
>
> Jimmy
>
>Thought about that. Already have one multiface for passing via Adat,
really need to be able to pass about 20-24 tracks max. That's why the
latency plug concept Chuck was talking about sounds good. Sync via ADAT
on the multiface (plus 8 channels), pass the the other channels via
ethernet, create a template to compensate for latency and... nah... not
DJ-esk enough!!!
:-)
JH
DJ wrote:
> Glad you're liking the DAC-1. That was recommended to me by Mike Claytor. He
> brought one up to Durango and we hooked it up and I immediately started
> hearing stuff that I had never heard and selling stuff that could live
> without to buy one. I haven't regretted it for one minute. It's a great
> piece of kit.
>
> Keep in mind that the dual box thing can get pretty expensive. There's a lot
> of I/O to buy on both platforms and you will likely end up running Paris on
> Win ME. It's not as expensive as a Pro Tools/Fairlight or Soundscape system
> by a long shot and you've probably got quite a bit of the infrastructure
> already, but the Pulsar cards are not cheap. Sounds like Morgan is gonna try
> to help ease the pain.I sure hope the Pulsar cards are as stable for
> everyone else as they are for me.
> ;o).
>
>
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| Re: I'm having a really hard time explaining myself :-) [message #75021 is a reply to message #75014] |
Sat, 28 October 2006 10:39 |
brandon[2]
Messages: 380
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br />
>>>>>would
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>love to fill the room with some hardware synths, this sounds more
>>>>>
>>>>>practical
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>to augment the softsynth library at some point, as long as Creamware
>>>
>>>lasts
>>>
>>>
>>>>>a
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>bit longer than Paris or Lexicon's Studio 12T, etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>>Dedric
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On 11/19/06 8:26 PM, in article 4561126a$1@linux, "TCB"
>>>>>
>>>>><nobody@ishere.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Different things for different people. Deej is getting ungodly
>>>
>>>stability
>>>
>>>
>>>>>with
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>it mostly as a mixer/ADAT interface in his whacked PARIS/SX rig. For
>>>
>>>me,
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>I reviewed a Pulsar computer card way back when and also the Noah
>
> synth
>
>>>>>just
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>as Home Recording was gasping its last and I had to go get a real job
>>>>>
>>>>>again.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>Creamware writes some *superb* sounding synthesizers, though I
>>>>>
>>>>>understand
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>some of that development team has moved on. It's also a semi-open
>>>>>
>>>>>platform
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>so third parties have gotten involved as well. As a synth guy, John
>>>>>
>>>>>Bowen
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>was one of the main people behind the Sequential Circuits synths back
>>>
>>>in
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>the day, including the ProphetVS and then after SC was swallowed up
>
> by
>
>>>>>Korg
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>the Wavestation series, among others. Now he develops for Scope and
>>>>>
>>>>>sells
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>his stuff at http://www.zargmusic.com/. For me, anyone putting
>
> Waldorf
>
>>>>>Wave
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>oscillators into a slightly hot-rodded Prophet 5 emulation is pretty
>>>>>
>>>>>cool,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>when it's John Bowen that's something like if Bob Moog had decided to
>>>>>
>>>>>learn
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>to program SHARCs and started another company. Oh, and there's a
>
> _sick_
>
>>>>>>>modular
>>>>>>>synth that comes with it and a third party package of modules that
>>>>>
>>>>>sounds
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>dreamy as well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>So for me I expect the Pulsar will be mostly a synth card, plus some
>>>>>
>>>>>effects,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>and the UAD will continue to be my 'bread and butter' EQ/Comp card.
>>>
>>>That
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>will leave me with native stuff only for really low CPU things like
>>>>>
>>>>>samplers
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>and Absynth. Sounds like a good rig to me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>TCB
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>DJ, Neil, Thad, and others - I've only skimmed the thread here and
>>>>>
>>>>>there
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>so
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>pardon if you've answered this, but what makes the Pulsar system
>
> more
>
>>>>>>>>attractive to you than Soundscape or some other DSP system? Just
>>>>>
>>>>>curious.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>>>>Dedric
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On 11/19/06 6:59 PM, in article 4561099d@linux, "DJ"
>>>>>
>>>>><nowayjose@dude.net>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>..but you're still gonna want more cards.....
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>;o)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OI.com> wrote in message news:4560f252$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>"DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Don't worry.you're gonna want more cards.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>One card had better do the trick... I can't afford more cards!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>My gearsluttishness has reached new precedents already...
>>>>>>>>>>I may have to sell some of my less-utilized stuff to cover what
>>>>>>>>>>I've already bought!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Neil
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>
>I read an article over the summer by an american engineer who was invited
over to Australia to review the Fairlight. As he reviewed it, he started
getting critical of this and that and making recommendations. To his
astonishment, they tweaked the board for him right then and there until he
couldn't complain anymore.
Now that's something special. I'd love to own one of these systems, but I
think I'd be happier with a Neve Capricorn. Like me, it's 20 bit and
discontinued.
;o)
"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
news:456135ed$1@linux...
> Many, (and I mean Many), studios here in Australia use the Fairlight,
> especially post studios, and have been since the early 90's.
> One of the biggest Film mixing facilities in Oz has been using Fairlight
for
> years, (Audioloc)
> www.audioloc.com.au
> --
> Martin Harrington
> www.lendanear-sound.com
>
> "Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:4560a245@linux...
> > Howdy.
> >
> > Last time I raised my head Fairlight was famous for the CMI sampler back
> > in
> > the '80s. Now I hear they've been selling AV workstations for years now.
> > I'm
> > surprised I had never run across this sort of stuff, as I have been
active
> > in various online forums for years.
> >
> > Anybody got a short run-down on the basics? How many workstations have
> > they
> > sold? Who's using them? How robust are they financially? Do they have a
> > chance in hell of denting the DAW market?
> >
> > Jimmy
> >
> >
>
>I'm hoping that Chuck develops the ASIO interface for Paris too. I will buy
it in a heartbeat. I just couldn't afford to wait for an undisclosed,
indefinite period of time. I'm always willing to find a simpler way to
interface gear with Paris and losing the need for ADAT I/O would be nice.
These Pulsar cards can be used in so many ways that even if I decide to drop
all my UAD-1 cards into my Paris box with Chucks ASIO goodie, I'll still
hold on to them. they are great stuff for a Native rig.
Deej
"Jeff hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote in message news:45613985@linux...
> Thought about that. Already have one multiface for passing via Adat,
> really need to be able to pass about 20-24 tracks max. That's why the
> latency plug concept Chuck was talking about sounds good. Sync via ADAT
> on the multiface (plus 8 channels), pass the the other channels via
> ethernet, create a template to compensate for latency and... nah... not
> DJ-esk enough!!!
>
> :-)
>
> JH
>
>
>
> DJ wrote:
> > Glad you're liking the DAC-1. That was recommended to me by Mike
Claytor. He
> > brought one up to Durango and we hooked it up and I immediately started
> > hearing stuff that I had never heard and selling stuff that could live
> > without to buy one. I haven't regretted it for one minute. It's a great
> > piece of kit.
> >
> > Keep in mind that the dual box thing can get pretty expensive. There's a
lot
> > of I/O to buy on both platforms and you will likely end up running Paris
on
> > Win ME. It's not as expensive as a Pro Tools/Fairlight or Soundscape
system
> > by a long shot and you've probably got quite a bit of the infrastructure
> > already, but the Pulsar cards are not cheap. Sounds like Morgan is gonna
try
> > to help ease the pain.I sure hope the Pulsar cards are as stable for
> > everyone else as they are for me.
> > ;o).
> >
> >
> > "Jeff hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote in message
news:45612d30@linux...
> >
> >>I am ready to go to the dual box thing...just a matter of time to set it
> >>up. By the way, thanks for the recommendation on the DAC1 last
> >>spring...it's has really healped me hear things.
> >>
> >>JH
> >>
> >>DJ wrote:
> >>
> >>>I agree that it's hard to be produdctive when you're chasing something
> >
> > as
> >
> >>>elusive as stability or a certain functionality. It's a major
> >
> > distraction to
> >
> >>>the creative process. I bought the Paris system in 97 because I liked
> >
> > the
> >
> >>>sound of it. It just blew me away. I have continued to stick with it
for
> >
> > the
> >
> >>>same reason. I haven't found anything yet that I like as much. I just
> >
> > can't
> >
> >>>live without the Cubase editor and delay compensation these days
though.
> >>>
> >>>;o)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Jeff hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote in message
> >
> > news:456125ec@linux...
> >
> >>>>Bought mine the first of '99. Still trying to catch up with you
....and
> >>>>oh yeah, not just be a gear slut, but actually produce something.
> >>>>
> >>>>JH
> >>>>
> >>>>DJ wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>I bought my Paris system on November 27 1997. In a few days, that
will
> >>>
> >>>be 9
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>years.so after 9 years I'm stiing here with the workaround that
finally
> >>>
> >>>does
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>everything I want. It's not nearly as elegant as a Fairlight, but it
> >>>>>probably can do more since it can use a Native front end and VST
> >
> > plugins
> >
> >>>>>like the UAD-1.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>This thing has been running all day and hasn't crashed once. I feel
> >
> > like
> >
> >>>the
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>dust is starting to settle and the realization is setting in that I
> >
> > just
> >
> >>>won
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>a 9 year long battle to achieve what I want in a DAW..but it's kind
of
> >
> > a
> >
> >>>>>bittersweet feeling considering I'm having to use two DAWs.......but
> >>>
> >>>I've
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>had the scenario working more or less since last Christmas. All I was
> >>>>>lacking was stability.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Now if this 9 year old Paris system will just hold together.......;o)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message
> >>>>>news:C1866D55.5905%dterry@keyofd.net...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Thanks Thad and DJ - that's what I've considered it for over the
> >
> > years -
> >
> >>>a
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>synth card mainly. Good to hear that kind of recommendation. While
I
> >>>>>
> >>>>>would
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>love to fill the room with some hardware synths, this sounds more
> >>>>>
> >>>>>practical
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>to augment the softsynth library at some point, as long as Creamware
> >>>
> >>>lasts
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>a
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>bit longer than Paris or Lexicon's Studio 12T, etc.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Regards,
> >>>>>>Dedric
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>On 11/19/06 8:26 PM, in article 4561126a$1@linux, "TCB"
> >>>>>
> >>>>><nobody@ishere.com>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Different things for different people. Deej is getting ungodly
> >>>
> >>>stability
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>with
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>it mostly as a mixer/ADAT interface in his whacked PARIS/SX rig.
For
> >>>
> >>>me,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>I reviewed a Pulsar computer card way back when and also the Noah
> >
> > synth
> >
> >>>>>just
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>as Home Recording was gasping its last and I had to go get a real
job
> >>>>>
> >>>>>again.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>Creamware writes some *superb* sounding synthesizers, though I
> >>>>>
> >>>>>understand
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>some of that development team has moved on. It's also a semi-open
> >>>>>
> >>>>>platform
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>so third parties have gotten involved as well. As a synth guy, John
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Bowen
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>was one of the main people behind the Sequential Circuits synths
back
> >>>
> >>>in
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>the day, including the ProphetVS and then after SC was swallowed up
> >
> > by
> >
> >>>>>Korg
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>the Wavestation series, among others. Now he develops for Scope and
> >>>>>
> >>>>>sells
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>his stuff at http://www.zargmusic.com/. For me, anyone putting
> >
> > Waldorf
> >
> >>>>>Wave
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>oscillators into a slightly hot-rodded Prophet 5 emulation is
pretty
> >>>>>
> >>>>>cool,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>when it's John Bowen that's something like if Bob Moog had decided
to
> >>>>>
> >>>>>learn
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>to program SHARCs and started another company. Oh, and there's a
> >
> > _sick_
> >
> >>>>>>>modular
> >>>>>>>synth that comes with it and a third party package of modules that
> >>>>>
> >>>>>sounds
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>dreamy as well.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>So for me I expect the Pulsar will be mostly a synth card, plus
some
> >>>>>
> >>>>>effects,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>and the UAD will continue to be my 'bread and butter' EQ/Comp card.
> >>>
> >>>That
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>will leave me with native stuff only for really low CPU things like
> >>>>>
> >>>>>samplers
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>and Absynth. Sounds like a good rig to me.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>TCB
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>DJ, Neil, Thad, and others - I've only skimmed the thread here and
> >>>>>
> >>>>>there
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>so
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>pardon if you've answered this, but what makes the Pulsar system
> >
> > more
> >
> >>>>>>>>attractive to you than Soundscape or some other DSP system? Just
> >>>>>
> >>>>>curious.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Regards,
> >>>>>>>>Dedric
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>On 11/19/06 6:59 PM, in article 4561099d@linux, "DJ"
> >>>>>
> >>>>><nowayjose@dude.net>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>..but you're still gonna want more cards.....
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>;o)
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OI.com> wrote in message news:4560f252$1@linux...
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>"DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>Don't worry.you're gonna want more cards.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>One card had better do the trick... I can't afford more cards!
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>My gearsluttishness has reached new precedents already...
> >>>>>>>>>>I may have to sell some of my less-utilized stuff to cover what
> >>>>>>>>>>I've already bought!
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>Neil
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>
> >
> >Do you have a routing map yet? Love to see it.
JH
DJ wrote:
> I'm hoping that Chuck develops the ASIO interface for Paris too. I will buy
> it in a heartbeat. I just couldn't afford to wait for an undisclosed,
> indefinite period of time. I'm always willing to find a simpler way to
> interface gear with Paris and losing the need for ADAT I/O would be nice.
> These Pulsar cards can be used in so many ways that even if I decide to drop
> all my UAD-1 cards into my Paris box with Chucks ASIO goodie, I'll still
> hold on to them. they are great stuff for a Native rig.
> Deej
>
> "Jeff hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote in message news:45613985@linux...
>
>>Thought about that. Already have one multiface for passing via Adat,
>>really need to be able to pass about 20-24 tracks max. That's why the
>>latency plug concept Chuck was talking about sounds good. Sync via ADAT
>>on the multiface (plus 8 channels), pass the the other channels via
>>ethernet, create a template to compensate for latency and... nah... not
>>DJ-esk enough!!!
>>
>>:-)
>>
>>JH
>>
>>
>>
>>DJ wrote:
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| Re: I'm having a really hard time explaining myself :-) [message #75031 is a reply to message #75029] |
Sat, 28 October 2006 11:44 |
Tom Bruhl
Messages: 1368
Registered: June 2007
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Senior Member |
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Don't worry.you're gonna want more cards.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>One card had better do the trick... I can't afford more cards!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>My gearsluttishness has reached new precedents already...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>I may have to sell some of my less-utilized stuff to cover
what
> >>>>>>>>>>>>I've already bought!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>Neil
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>
> >
> >I was wondering if you got to cubase in the equation yet. I would think
that it will still be better as a two box setup for me, because of the
horsepower loss with Paris running (I'm running a Intel P4 with
hyperthreading disabled for Paris now , XP ). Might be able to get away
with one if I avoid native plugs, though.
JH
DJ wrote:
> It's basically pretty simple. Once I'm for sure about it I'll post it up. It
> similar to the one I was using with the RME cards, but simpler.
>
> If Chuck's ASIO goodie happens, I'll likely drop all of my UAD-1 cards in
> the Paris rig, Interface my digital gear with the Paris s/pdif and the RME
> ADI4 DD I've got here and just mix on the Paris rig. with the Pulsar cards
> DSP FX inserted via ADAT since they are real time but I don't know what
> Chuck has up his sleeve. It might be possible to run Cubase on the same
> machine as a Paris plugin for all I know right now.
>
> ;o)
>
>
>
> "Jeff hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote in message news:45613cf5@linux...
>
>>Do you have a routing map yet? Love to see it.
>>
>>JH
>>
>>DJ wrote:
>>
>>>I'm hoping that Chuck develops the ASIO interface for Paris too. I will
>
> buy
>
>>>it in a heartbeat. I just couldn't afford to wait for an undisclosed,
>>>indefinite period of time. I'm always willing to find a simpler way to
>>>interface gear with Paris and losing the need for ADAT I/O would be
>
> nice.
>
>>>These Pulsar cards can be used in so many ways that even if I decide to
>
> drop
>
>>>all my UAD-1 cards into my Paris box with Chucks ASIO goodie, I'll
>
> still
>
>>>hold on to them. they are great stuff for a Native rig.
>>>Deej
>>>
>>>"Jeff hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote in message
>
> news:45613985@linux...
>
>>>>Thought about that. Already have one multiface for passing via Adat,
>>>>really need to be able to pass about 20-24 tracks max. That's why the
>>>>latency plug concept Chuck was talking about sounds good. Sync via ADAT
>>>>on the multiface (plus 8 channels), pass the the other channels via
>>>>ethernet, create a template to compensate for latency and... nah... not
>>>>DJ-esk enough!!!
>>>>
>>>>:-)
>>>>
>>>>JH
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>DJ wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Glad you're liking the DAC-1. That was recommended to me by Mike
>>>
>>>Claytor. He
>>>
>>>
>>>>>brought one up to Durango and we hooked it up and I immediately started
>>>>>hearing stuff that I had never heard and selling stuff that could live
>>>>>without to buy one. I haven't regretted it for one minute. It's a great
>>>>>piece of kit.
>>>>>
>>>>>Keep in mind that the dual box thing can get pretty expensive. There's
>
> a
>
>>>lot
>>>
>>>
>>>>>of I/O to buy on both platforms and you will likely end up running
>
> Paris
>
>>>on
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Win ME. It's not as expensive as a Pro Tools/Fairlight or Soundscape
>>>
>>>system
>>>
>>>
>>>>>by a long shot and you've probably got quite a bit of the
>
> infrastructure
>
>>>>>already, but the Pulsar cards are not cheap. Sounds like Morgan is
>
> gonna
>
>>>try
>>>
>>>
>>>>>to help ease the pain.I sure hope the Pulsar cards are as stable for
>>>>>everyone else as they are for me.
>>>>>;o).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Jeff hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>>news:45612d30@linux...
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>I am ready to go to the dual box thing...just a matter of time to set
>
> it
>
>>>>>>up. By the way, thanks for the recommendation on the DAC1 last
>>>>>>spring...it's has really healped me hear things.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>JH
>>>>>>
>>>>>>DJ wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I agree that it's hard to be produdctive when you're chasing
>
> something
>
>>>>>as
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>elusive as stability or a certain functionality. It's a major
>>>>>
>>>>>distraction to
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>the creative process. I bought the Paris system in 97 because I liked
>>>>>
>>>>>the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>sound of it. It just blew me away. I have continued to stick with it
>>>
>>>for
>>>
>>>
>>>>>the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>same reason. I haven't found anything yet that I like as much. I just
>>>>>
>>>>>can't
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>live without the Cubase editor and delay compensation these days
>>>
>>>though.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>;o)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Jeff hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote in message
>>>>>
>>>>>news:456125ec@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Bought mine the first of '99. Still trying to catch up with you
>>>
>>>....and
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>oh yeah, not just be a gear slut, but actually produce something.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>JH
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>DJ wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I bought my Paris system on November 27 1997. In a few days, that
>>>
>>>will
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>be 9
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>years.so after 9 years I'm stiing here with the workaround that
>>>
>>>finally
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>does
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>everything I want. It's not nearly as elegant as a Fairlight, but
>
> it
>
>>>>>>>>>probably can do more since it can use a Native front end and VST
>>>>>
>>>>>plugins
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>like the UAD-1.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>This thing has been running all day and hasn't crashed once. I feel
>>>>>
>>>>>like
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>dust is starting to settle and the realization is setting in that I
>>>>>
>>>>>just
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>won
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>a 9 year long battle to achieve what I want in a DAW..but it's kind
>>>
>>>of
>>>
>>>
>>>>>a
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>bittersweet feeling considering I'm having to use two
>
> DAWs.......but
>
>>>>>>>I've
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>had the scenario working more or less since last Christmas. All I
>
> was
>
>>>>>>>>>lacking was stability.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Now if this 9 year old Paris system will just hold
>
> together.......;o)
>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>news:C1866D55.5905%dterry@keyofd.net...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Thanks Thad and DJ - that's what I've considered it for over the
>>>>>
>>>>>years -
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>synth card mainly. Good to hear that kind of recommendation.
>
> While
>
>>>I
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>would
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>love to fill the room with some hardware synths, this sounds more
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>practical
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>to augment the softsynth library at some point, as long as
>
> Creamware
>
>>>>>>>lasts
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>bit longer than Paris or Lexicon's Studio 12T, etc.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>Dedric
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>On 11/19/06 8:26 PM, in article 4561126a$1@linux, "TCB"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>><nobody@ishere.com>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
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| Re: I'm having a really hard time explaining myself :-) [message #75034 is a reply to message #75031] |
Sat, 28 October 2006 12:31 |
Don Nafe
Messages: 1206
Registered: July 2005
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Senior Member |
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gt;>>>>>>>>dreamy as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>So for me I expect the Pulsar will be mostly a synth card, plus
>>>
>>>some
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>effects,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>and the UAD will continue to be my 'bread and butter' EQ/Comp
>
> card.
>
>>>>>>>That
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>will leave me with native stuff only for really low CPU things
>
> like
>
>>>>>>>>>samplers
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>and Absynth. Sounds like a good rig to me.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>TCB
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>DJ, Neil, Thad, and others - I've only skimmed the thread here
>
> and
>
>>>>>>>>>there
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>so
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>pardon if you've answered this, but what makes the Pulsar system
>>>>>
>>>>>more
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>attractive to you than Soundscape or some other DSP system?
>
> Just
>
>>>>>>>>>curious.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>Dedric
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>On 11/19/06 6:59 PM, in article 4561099d@linux, "DJ"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>><nowayjose@dude.net>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>..but you're still gonna want more cards.....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>;o)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OI.com> wrote in message
>
> news:4560f252$1@linux...
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Don't worry.you're gonna want more cards.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>One card had better do the trick... I can't afford more cards!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>My gearsluttishness has reached new precedents already...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I may have to sell some of my less-utilized stuff to cover
>
> what
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I've already bought!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Neil
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>
>DJ,
This is not to be happening.
You have to configure the sequence Pulsar sees your cards.
You have to modify your cset.ini in your bin folder in pulsar (like Paris
ini)
This happens when your pc sees the card in a way that it does not seem optimal
for pci bandwith...
You open cset.ini with a notepad and enter in thery very first line above
all the following:
[board0]
boardid=1
[board1]
boardid=0
[board2]
boardid=2
You have to change the boardid's until you find the optimum.
This Pulsar is too clever!!!
This will surely solve !!
hint:
If the dsp allocation window appears that means that you did NOT find the
optimum sequence.
REgards,
Dimitrios
"DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
>............well.........I was talking about running out of resources
>earlier. The secret to insert them in the mixer rather than add another
>module to the setup. When you do this a sreeen pops up that asks if you
want
>to reallocate the resources. You tell it yes and it reallocates.. then you
>have to go to your sync window, switch the sync source on and off and then
>go to your Cubase device manager and reset the ASIO driver. That solves
the
>problem. A bit of a PITA, but considering that I'm asking this thing to
do
>some things a bit outside the box, it's nice to have this functionality
at
>all and to access to the Scope DSP effects that I had already written off.
>The stock FX for this system are very good and when added to the DSP of
the
>UAD-1 cards, it's the kind of wretched excess any DSP lovin' geek could
>appreciate. I've got the Vinco compressor on a vocal track right now. Think
>UAD-1 1176 but with a bit more clarity overall. the de esser is also very
>nice and transparent, I normally use an SPL hardware de esser, but this
>little applet may change that.
>
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:4561126a$1@linux...
>>
>> Different things for different people. Deej is getting ungodly stability
>with
>> it mostly as a mixer/ADAT interface in his whacked PARIS/SX rig. For me,
>> I reviewed a Pulsar computer card way back when and also the Noah synth
>just
>> as Home Recording was gasping its last and I had to go get a real job
>again.
>> Creamware writes some *superb* sounding synthesizers, though I understand
>> some of that development team has moved on. It's also a semi-open platform
>> so third parties have gotten involved as well. As a synth guy, John Bowen
>> was one of the main people behind the Sequential Circuits synths back
in
>> the day, including the ProphetVS and then after SC was swallowed up by
>Korg
>> the Wavestation series, among others. Now he develops for Scope and sells
>> his stuff at http://www.zargmusic.com/. For me, anyone putting Waldorf
>Wave
>> oscillators into a slightly hot-rodded Prophet 5 emulation is pretty cool,
>> when it's John Bowen that's something like if Bob Moog had decided to
>learn
>> to program SHARCs and started another company. Oh, and there's a _sick_
>modular
>> synth that comes with it and a third party package of modules that sounds
>> dreamy as well.
>>
>> So for me I expect the Pulsar will be mostly a synth card, plus some
>effects,
>> and the UAD will continue to be my 'bread and butter' EQ/Comp card. That
>> will leave me with native stuff only for really low CPU things like
>samplers
>> and Absynth. Sounds like a good rig to me.
>>
>> TCB
>>
>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>> >DJ, Neil, Thad, and others - I've only skimmed the thread here and there
>> so
>> >pardon if you've answered this, but what makes the Pulsar system more
>> >attractive to you than Soundscape or some other DSP system? Just
>curious.
>> >
>> >Regards,
>> >Dedric
>> >
>> >On 11/19/06 6:59 PM, in article 4561099d@linux, "DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net>
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >> ..but you're still gonna want more cards.....
>> >>
>> >> ;o)
>> >>
>> >> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OI.com> wrote in message news:4560f252$1@linux...
>> >>>
>> >>> "DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
>> >>>> Don't worry.you're gonna want more cards.
>> >>>
>> >>> One card had better do the trick... I can't afford more cards!
>> >>>
>> >>> My gearsluttishness has reached new precedents already...
>> >>> I may have to sell some of my less-utilized stuff to cover what
>> >>> I've already bought!
>> >>>
>> >>> Neil
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>
>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>
>
Shit text was erased just before sending arghhhh...
Have a Compaq pressario 2800 laptop and Quadro USB M-audio interface.
XP audio tweaked but always get some crackles in audio and in VSTI playing
too.
Drivers are the latest (well from 2003) and asio latency has been tried from
full latency to very low, nothing changes !
I have noticed that in Cubase SX without any direct monitoring you can record
without crackles but this is like when not full duplex you might get away
without crackles but in full duplex there is no way around...
Usb is 1.1
Regards,
DimitriosFor the record this is not the same John as ME the original. How about adding
an initial or change your nick to John Diddy or something. hehe
John
no@no.com
John <nosp@m.com> wrote:
>Thanks Neil, good thinking.
>Neil wrote:
>> John, try a few TV stations in your market - call their
>> production manager & ask what they'd charge to transfer some
>> stuff for you... it's tough to find a TV station that doesn't
>> have an Avid system of some type.
>>
>> Neil
>>
>> John <nosp@m.com> wrote:
>>> I'm out of luck there. I'm pretty much out of the recording industry
>>> loop. I'm in a small, new town, and I don't know anyone yet. I guess
I
>>> could call some computer techs and see if they can transfer to a RAID
>>> drive for me.
>>>
>>> Martin Harrington wrote:
>>>> John,
>>>> If you know anyone that has an "old" AVID video editing system, see
if
>> you
>>>> can hook the drive up to their system, and copy the files to their newer
>>
>>>> drives which are most probably IDE, and get them to burn a DVD or the
>> like.
>>>> Never know, it may work.
>>Try a USB 2.0 PCMCIA adaptor card?
AA
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:456198fa$1@linux...
>
> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>>
>>
> Shit text was erased just before sending arghhhh...
> Have a Compaq pressario 2800 laptop and Quadro USB M-audio interface.
> XP audio tweaked but always get some crackles in audio and in VSTI playing
> too.
> Drivers are the latest (well from 2003) and asio latency has been tried
> from
> full latency to very low, nothing changes !
> I have noticed that in Cubase SX without any direct monitoring you can
> record
> without crackles but this is like when not full duplex you might get away
> without crackles but in full duplex there is no way around...
> Usb is 1.1
> Regards,
> DimitriosI've read DJ's posts about the scope cards and I'm giving some thought to
perhaps getting a the scope "home" card. I only have one EDS card and I'm
not sure if I've got this right. I'm thinking that I'd like to run the
scope card on the same system as Paris (AMD Athlon 1.7 -or something like
that speed, haven't got the box in front of me). I'm guessing that I'd have
to get an ADAT card for Paris and route the 8 aux sends to the scope card,
with the returns coming back through the same ADAT line. Scope is saying
something like 3ms latency. Have I got this right? Would something like
this work?
Thanks!
MRYou can also get their convertor box, the A16Ultra, and run
analog ins & outs if you don't want to mess with the ADAT card
(or if you have trouble finding one). The Home card may or may
not be enough DSP for what you want to do, though... what are
you thinking about in terms of how you'll be implementing it?
Neil
"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote:
>I've read DJ's posts about the scope cards and I'm giving some thought to
>perhaps getting a the scope "home" card. I only have one EDS card and I'm
>not sure if I've got this right. I'm thinking that I'd like to run the
>scope card on the same system as Paris (AMD Athlon 1.7 -or something like
>that speed, haven't got the box in front of me). I'm guessing that I'd
have
>to get an ADAT card for Paris and route the 8 aux sends to the scope card,
>with the returns coming back through the same ADAT line. Scope is saying
>something like 3ms latency. Have I got this right? Would something like
>this work?
>Thanks!
>MR
>
>Just an FYI to y'all, I upgraded to Live 6 as part of the process of reinstalling
everything on my main audio box. Ableton isn't reinventing the wheel with
every release these days (like they for versions 1-3) but it's definitely
a 'worth the money' upgrade. A few very nice new effects, multi-processor/core
support, some very nice file handling functions (the best one being 'render
each individual track'), and instrum
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| Re: I'm having a really hard time explaining myself :-) [message #75054 is a reply to message #75037] |
Sat, 28 October 2006 17:11 |
Neil
Messages: 1645
Registered: April 2006
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> >It's very easy to dial in comfortable familarity.
> >
> So, as someone who does not have either of the UAD Neve EQs, the big
question
> is "Do I need both?".
>My good friend and ever-patient Paris mentor Tommy Detamore recorded "Heartbreaker's
Hall of Fame" for local Austin talent Sunny Sweeney a year or so ago, and
it's been picked up for national release.
Sunny recently signed a deal with Big Machine Records of Nashville, responsible
for charting 3 top 10 hits, including a #1, in the last year. The label apparently
heard Tommy's great engineering, production, and musicianship skills, and
said "What's to fix?" It goes to release in March untouched. Apparently the
label sent the mixes to a well respected Nashvile mastering house, and they
responded with "Don't bother, I wouldn't change a thing...."
If you know much about how the Gnashville machine works, this is a pretty
rare event. Way to go Tommy!!!I've got a bunch of songs to mix here. They are Cubase SX 3 projects with
audio files that have lots of edits/fades, etc. these sessions also have
external instrument and FX inserted in the inserts/sends and Device manager.
In order for me to work with them on my system I've got two choices as I see
it:
1. Render these files as individual .wav's to lose the edits and import them
into a new mix template that is set up to work on my system.
2. Reconfigure each project to my ASIO configuration and go to each track
and lose the insert and send FX and reconfigure/delete everything that is
set up in the device manager of the old SX project. this will be very time
consuming.
I've never used OMS, but this might also be an option. I just don't want any
of the automation info that is written to these projects to be present. I'd
much rather have them as contiguous .wav files, import them into my new mix
template and start mixing each song from scratch.
I always track in Paris and then render the files to import into Cubase and
I always bounce my mixes to Parisrather than rendering them in cubase
because they always have external processors on the inserts and sends so I'm
not just super familiar with the ITB rendering process in Cubase cause I
never use it.
Is there a quick way to do this?
Thanks,
DeejCongrats to Tommy!
Tony
"Bill Terry" <me@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:456201e7$1@linux...
>
> My good friend and ever-patient Paris mentor Tommy Detamore recorded
> "Heartbreaker's
> Hall of Fame" for local Austin talent Sunny Sweeney a year or so ago, and
> it's been picked up for national release.
>
> Sunny recently signed a deal with Big Machine Records of Nashville,
> responsible
> for charting 3 top 10 hits, including a #1, in the last year. The label
> apparently
> heard Tommy's great engineering, production, and musicianship skills, and
> said "What's to fix?" It goes to release in March untouched. Apparently
> the
> label sent the mixes to a well respected Nashvile mastering house, and
> they
> responded with "Don't bother, I wouldn't change a thing...."
>
> If you know much about how the Gnashville machine works, this is a pretty
> rare event. Way to go Tommy!!!Terrific!
Congratulations
DC
"Bill Terry" <me@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>My good friend and ever-patient Paris mentor Tommy Detamore recorded "Heartbreaker's
>Hall of Fame" for local Austin talent Sunny Sweeney a year or so ago, and
>it's been picked up for national release.
>
>Sunny recently signed a deal with Big Machine Records of Nashville, responsible
>for charting 3 top 10 hits, including a #1, in the last year. The label
apparently
>heard Tommy's great engineering, production, and musicianship skills, and
>said "What's to fix?" It goes to release in March untouched. Apparently
the
>label sent the mixes to a well respected Nashvile mastering house, and they
>responded with "Don't bother, I wouldn't change a thing...."
>
>If you know much about how the Gnashville machine works, this is a pretty
>rare event. Way to go Tommy!!!Very cool!
Neil
"Bill Terry" <me@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>My good friend and ever-patient Paris mentor Tommy Detamore recorded "Heartbreaker's
>Hall of Fame" for local Austin talent Sunny Sweeney a year or so ago, and
>it's been picked up for national release.
>
>Sunny recently signed a deal with Big Machine Records of Nashville, responsible
>for charting 3 top 10 hits, including a #1, in the last year. The label
apparently
>heard Tommy's great engineering, production, and musicianship skills, and
>said "What's to fix?" It goes to release in March untouched. Apparently
the
>label sent the mixes to a well respected Nashvile mastering house, and they
>responded with "Don't bother, I wouldn't change a thing...."
>
>If you know much about how the Gnashville machine works, this is a pretty
>rare event. Way to go Tommy!!!How cool is this???
;o)
"Bill Terry" <me@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:456201e7$1@linux...
>
> My good friend and ever-patient Paris mentor Tommy Detamore recorded
"Heartbreaker's
> Hall of Fame" for local Austin talent Sunny Sweeney a year or so ago, and
> it's been picked up for national release.
>
> Sunny recently signed a deal with Big Machine Records of Nashville,
responsible
> for charting 3 top 10 hits, including a #1, in the last year. The label
apparently
> heard Tommy's great engineering, production, and musicianship skills, and
> said "What's to fix?" It goes to release in March untouched. Apparently
the
> label sent the mixes to a well respected Nashvile mastering house, and
they
> responded with "Don't bother, I wouldn't change a thing...."
>
> If you know much about how the Gnashville machine works, this is a pretty
> rare event. Way to go Tommy!!!I have the same problem on my laptop with every m-audio interface I have tried.
I tried the USB 2.0 PCMCIA adaptor route, but guess what ... It shares
the same IRQ as the on board video, and the crackles get even worse!
Chuck
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>Try a USB 2.0 PCMCIA adaptor card?
>
>AA
>
>
>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:456198fa$1@linux...
>>
>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>> Shit text was erased just before sending arghhhh...
>> Have a Compaq pressario 2800 laptop and Quadro USB M-audio interface.
>> XP audio tweaked but always get some crackles in audio and in VSTI playing
>> too.
>> Drivers are the latest (well from 2003) and asio latency has been tried
>> from
>> full latency to very low, nothing changes !
>> I have noticed that in Cubase SX without any direct monitoring you can
>> record
>> without crackles but this is like when not full duplex you might get away
>> without crackles but in full duplex there is no way around...
>> Usb is 1.1
>> Regards,
>> Dimitrios
>
>Congrats!!
"Bill Terry" <me@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>My good friend and ever-patient Paris mentor Tommy Detamore recorded "Heartbreaker's
>Hall of Fame" for local Austin talent Sunny Sweeney a year or so ago, and
>it's been picked up for national release.
>
>Sunny recently signed a deal with Big Machine Records of Nashville, responsible
>for charting 3 top 10 hits, including a #1, in the last year. The label
apparently
>heard Tommy's great engineering, production, and musicianship skills, and
>said "What's to fix?" It goes to release in March untouched. Apparently
the
>label sent the mixes to a well respected Nashvile mastering house, and they
>responded with "Don't bother, I wouldn't change a thing...."
>
>If you know much about how the Gnashville machine works, this is a pretty
>rare event. Way to go Tommy!!!Hi Chuck
I have a M-audio 410 for laptop use Nuendo & Pro Tools M) and I use dedicated
firwire card. In Pro Tools, I hear crackling while recording, but I adjusted
my buffers, and fine. In Nuendo, no pops and clicks..very smooth at low buffer
settings..
"Chuck Duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>
>I have the same problem on my laptop with every m-audio interface I have
tried.
> I tried the USB 2.0 PCMCIA adaptor route, but guess what ... It shares
>the same IRQ as the on board video, and the crackles get even worse!
>
>Chuck
>
>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>Try a USB 2.0 PCMCIA adaptor card?
>>
>>AA
>>
>>
>>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:456198fa$1@linux...
>>>
>>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Shit text was erased just before sending arghhhh...
>>> Have a Compaq pressario 2800 laptop and Quadro USB M-audio interface.
>>> XP audio tweaked but always get some crackles in audio and in VSTI playing
>>> too.
>>> Drivers are the latest (well from 2003) and asio latency has been tried
>
>>> from
>>> full latency to very low, nothing changes !
>>> I have noticed that in Cubase SX without any direct monitoring you can
>
>>> record
>>> without crackles but this is like when not full duplex you might get
away
>>> without crackles but in full duplex there is no way around...
>>> Usb is 1.1
>>> Regards,
>>> Dimitrios
>>
>>
>Do you still have my book? I think I put that in there, but it's been a while.
TCB
"DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
>I've got a bunch of songs to mix here. They are Cubase SX 3 projects with
>audio files that have lots of edits/fades, etc. these sessions also have
>external instrument and FX inserted in the inserts/sends and Device manager.
>In order for me to work with them on my system I've got two choices as I
see
>it:
>
>1. Render these files as individual .wav's to lose the edits and import
them
>into a new mix template that is set up to work on my system.
>
>2. Reconfigure each project to my ASIO configuration and go to each track
>and lose the insert and send FX and reconfigure/delete everything that is
>set up in the device manager of the old SX project. this will be very time
>consuming.
>
>I've never used OMS, but this might also be an option. I just don't want
any
>of the automation info that is written to these projects to be present.
I'd
>much rather have them as contiguous .wav files, import them into my new
mix
>template and start mixing each song from scratch.
>
>I always track in Paris and then render the files to import into Cubase
and
>I always bounce my mixes to Parisrather than rendering them in cubase
>because they always have external processors on the inserts and sends so
I'm
>not just super familiar with the ITB rendering process in Cubase cause I
>never use it.
>
>Is there a quick way to do this?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Deej
>
>
>
>Hi DJ,
I use the export to OMF functionin Nuendo/SX. Works great!! Then, import
the OMF file into anything (Paris, Logic, PT, DP,)
"DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
>I've got a bunch of songs to mix here. They are Cubase SX 3 projects with
>audio files that have lots of edits/fades, etc. these sessions also have
>external instrument and FX inserted in the inserts/sends and Device manager.
>In order for me to work with them on my system I've got two choices as I
see
>it:
>
>1. Render these files as individual .wav's to lose the edits and import
them
>into a new mix template that is set up to work on my system.
>
>2. Reconfigure each project to my ASIO configuration and go to each track
>and lose the insert and send FX and reconfigure/delete everything that is
>set up in the device manager of the old SX project. this will be very time
>consuming.
>
>I've never used OMS, but this might also be an option. I just don't want
any
>of the automation info that is written to these projects to be present.
I'd
>much rather have them as contiguous .wav files, import them into my new
mix
>template and start mixing each song from scratch.
>
>I always track in Paris and then render the files to import into Cubase
and
>I always bounce my mixes to Parisrather than rendering them in cubase
>because they always have external processors on the inserts and sends so
I'm
>not just super familiar with the ITB rendering process in Cubase cause I
>never use it.
>
>Is there a quick way to do this?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Deej
>
>
>
>Hi Lamont,
Unfortunately, on my laptop the only buffer settings that don't cause clicking
and popping are to large for realtime VSTi :-(
"lamont " <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>Hi Chuck
>I have a M-audio 410 for laptop use Nuendo & Pro Tools M) and I use dedicated
>firwire card. In Pro Tools, I hear crackling while recording, but I adjusted
>my buffers, and fine. In Nuendo, no pops and clicks..very smooth at low
buffer
>settings..
>
>"Chuck Duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>>
>>I have the same problem on my laptop with every m-audio interface I have
>tried.
>> I tried the USB 2.0 PCMCIA adaptor route, but guess what ... It shares
>>the same IRQ as the on board video, and the crackles get even worse!
>>
>>Chuck
>>
>>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>Try a USB 2.0 PCMCIA adaptor card?
>>>
>>>AA
>>>
>>>
>>>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:456198fa$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Shit text was erased just before sending arghhhh...
>>>> Have a Compaq pressario 2800 laptop and Quadro USB M-audio interface.
>>>> XP audio tweaked but always get some crackles in audio and in VSTI playing
>>>> too.
>>>> Drivers are the latest (well from 2003) and asio latency has been tried
>>
>>>> from
>>>> full latency to very low, nothing changes !
>>>> I have noticed that in Cubase SX without any direct monitoring you can
>>
>>>> record
>>>> without crackles but this is like when not full duplex you might get
>away
>>>> without crackles but in full duplex there is no way around...
>>>> Usb is 1.1
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Dimitrios
>>>
>>>
>>
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>For the record this is not the same John as ME the original. How about
adding
>an initial or change your nick to John Diddy or something. hehe
>John
>no@no.com
Don't worry - everyone here knows it wasn't the same John...
there wasn't near enough bitching & complaining in those posts
for it to have been you.
:)DJ, I have soem URS eqs 1073 and it sound great. I herd the UAD demos online,
and they sound similar. very close. I agree, Ilove what those neve 107x do
to a track..sweet..
I still have not purchased a UAD card. I know I know, I'll get one. But,
I have to admit, the native plugs are getting better and better..Like the
Waves SSL stuff..Very very good stuff and are the URS and for PT(LE & M)
teh McDSP Filter bank and Compressor bank nails those old relics pretty good.
That's why I have not gotten into the UAD stuff.
"DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
>The 1081 is much more flexible and you could probably get by with it alone.
>There's something about the shelving freq's on the 1073 though .....they
>make it easy to nail certain source material very quickly without a bunch
of
>noodling around...and god forbid that we should have to noodle.
>
>;o)
>
>"Gary Flanigan" <gary_flanigan@ce9.uscourts.gov> wrote in message
>news:4561ee8f$1@linux...
>>
>> "DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
>> >Man this is a nice EQ. It's got that *sounds like a record* kinda' vibe.
>> >It's very easy to dial in comfortable familarity.
>> >
>> So, as someone who does not have either of the UAD Neve EQs, the big
>question
>> is "Do I need both?".
>>
>
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Gizmo Recording Company
Silver Spring, MD
www.gizmorecording.com
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