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| Re: Anyone used this?Liquid MIx..No Waves SSL..WOW [message #73318 is a reply to message #73309] |
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nd.com/product/Akai-Quad-Comp-CompressorExpander-VST-PlugIn?sku=705596" target="_blank"> http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Akai-Quad-Comp-Compre ssorExpander-VST-PlugIn?sku=705596
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>WTF difference does it make? Even if it sucks, for ten bucks
>you get a nice doorstop (the box), and a coaster (the cd the
>software comes on).
>
>Neil
>Hey Tony, sweet! Your drum setup is a lot like my setup, three toms and
two floors, only I've got double kicks.
James
Tony Benson <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote:
>> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand
>this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.
>
>
>My band opened for The Little River Band last night and a friend got a
>couple of decent pics of my live kit. Pearl BRX Masters Studio's and Sabian
>AAX cymbals.
>
>Tony
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>--B_3243539546_252533Nice looking kit!
Cheers,
-Jamie
http://www.JamieKrutz.com
James McCloskey wrote:
> Hey Tony, sweet! Your drum setup is a lot like my setup, three toms and
> two floors, only I've got double kicks.
>
> James
>
> Tony Benson <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote:
>>> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand
>> this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.
>>
>>
>> My band opened for The Little River Band last night and a friend got a
>> couple of decent pics of my live kit. Pearl BRX Masters Studio's and Sabian
>> AAX cymbals.
>>
>> Tony
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --B_3243539546_252533
>Hey Deej, did you see this?
http://www.solidsoundstudio.net/index.html
Forte extras page:
http://www.brainspawn.com/products/forte/?op=extras
"DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote:
>When I go to the menu to select output busses, all my stereo outputs are
>showing up but the menu list only shows the first 12 of my mono outputs.
I
>can't scroll down to access the rest of them. Are you having this problem.?
>If so, any suggestions?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Deej
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:452e9d5c$1@linux...
>>
>> DJ, check out this VST host app. Could replace your Cuabse SX in hosting
>FX.
>>
>> http://www.brainspawn.com/products/
>
>got about 2" here in williamston. it actually was hailing and snowing
at the same time. and no it wasn't sleet they were ice balls about
1/4" in diameter.
On 13 Oct 2006 05:28:09 +1000, "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>Where? I'm downtown.. Go tigers!!!!
>
>
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>It's only October and we have a damned blizzard here in Detroit, well maybe
>>not a blizzard, but it's snowing like one. I need to move back to Cal.
>>
>>Jamessay it ain't so mr. simplicity...you're the best day/night time soap
out there.
please reconsider
On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 20:03:16 -0600, "DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote:
>These are the blessings of a never boring life Neil (and Amy's still
>hanging in there, bless her heart.)
>;o)
>
>Actually....I'm getting a bit bored with trying to do what may be possible
>but is hitting the point of diminishing returns as far as the PITA factor is
>concerned.
>
>I'm going to reconfigure a few projects to mix here in Cubase with 8 stems
>bussed to Paris submix 1 for summing. I think I can achieve the same mojo
>without all the convoluted voodoo routing between the two DAWs. If that's
>the case, I'll likely stop the madness. I'm gettin' kinda tired of this to
>be honest.
>
>I've got one more experiment to try with Forte though. It may put this whole
>thing over the top. Stay tuned.
>
>;o)
>
>
>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:452edd97$1@linux...
>>
>> "DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote:
>> >It's possible to route virtual instruments directly to Paris audio
>channels
>> >and play in real time. Bye Bye needing Cubase as a VSi host in tracking
>> >sessions.
>>
>> Omigod, Lamont... look what you've started!
>>
>> This week = Deej being excited about this new app, loving it in
>> every regard, thrilling in it's versatility.
>>
>> Next week = "Hmmm, I wish there was this ONE little other thing
>> I could get it to do... I'm gonna try reconfiguring this a bit;
>> I'll keep you guys posted."
>>
>> Next week in some 4:00 in the morning post = "OK, after going
>> through seventeen BSOD's in one night, seventy-five cups of
>> coffee, and a divorce, I finally got this thing streaming at
>> 576k, upconverting through three Lavry Blue DAC's in series,
>> then crunching to 12-bit though a Fairlight CMI Series 1,
>> paralleled with an EMT Plate reverb and back in through a set
>> of ADC's a friend of mine made from a toaster (note if you're
>> going to try this: the older, black bakelite toasters sound
>> WAAAY better than the newer silverface stainless steel ones),
>> I then tried using a "warming" circuit built from a magnetron
>> tube out of a 1972 Amana microwave oven, and lo & behold, it's
>> WORKING!!!"
>>
>> (Five minutes later at 4:05am): "Damn, this #*&#%$&^%^@ setup
>> just started smoking & caught my Behringer Headphones on fire
>> as I was trying some new mix techniques... or was it the
>> headphones that caught the rig on fire - they ARE Behringers,
>> after all? Anyway, it's a good thing that I'm pretty much a
>> cueball up there, or else I'd feel like Michael Jackson in that
>> Pepsi commercial. More later, I'm going to bed now - good thing
>> Amy left me, or else I'd have to sleep on the couch, what with
>> me smelling like a fireplace & all. Oh well, at least I have
>> the dogs."
>>
>> Later that same morning at 6:00 am = "ARGH! It's only 5:59 and
>> already this is the day from hell! The dogs kicked me out of
>> bed, I tried going out into the stable, thinking Amy had taken
>> the horses with her & at least I'd have some peace & quiet
>> there, but between the horses kicking me, the bears rummaging
>> around in the trash bins outside, and this muthaf^%#king skunk
>> that just HAD to make his presence known, I didn't sleep a
>> wink... well, off to the bathtub to soak in some peroxide &
>> tomato juice to try & get this skunk smell off of me... I've
>> got clients coming in at 10:00 for a mix session."
>>
>> Next day in the afternoon = "Whew! Man, I am exhausted, 176
>> hours straight with no sleep, and with the problems I'm having
>> with this rig, I don't think we got a viable mix down on ANY of
>> their songs... because of the fire in the new PC, I went back
>> to a Paris/Cubase mix matrix summed to a TASCAM Portastudio for
>> that phat analog sound, and everything was going well until I
>> tried to get the Portastudio sync'ed to a word clock -
>> disaster... I was so sleepy that I didn't realize this was an
>> impossibility... BTW, anyone know how to unwedge a BNC cable
>> from an RCA audio-in jack once they've been super-glued to each
>> other???"
>>
>> :D
>>
>>
>>
>Ok, what hardware can do this?
Daw needed:
Truly pro audio sound quality
Records 24 analog channels simultaneously while playing back 24 analog
Can play back 60 analog channels total with dozens of plugsins.
I/O needs to be 20 feet away from the computer that is in another room
Has a mix buss that doesnt get crushed by lots of tracks
Supports plugin delay compensation and plugin automation.
Supports VSTi's"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>Ok, what hardware can do this?
A Studer 827, plus a console, plus a bunch of outboard gear can
do all that.
>Daw needed:
Oh... sorry, didn't see that part at first.
>Truly pro audio sound quality
>Records 24 analog channels simultaneously while playing back 24 analog
>Can play back 60 analog channels total with dozens of plugsins.
>I/O needs to be 20 feet away from the computer that is in another room
>Has a mix buss that doesnt get crushed by lots of tracks
>Supports plugin delay compensation and plugin automation.
>Supports VSTi's
CubaseSX (or Nuendo, of course) can do all this if you go with
2 RME Multiface's. Each Multiface has 8 analog ins & outs, plus
4 or 8 lightpipe channels, depending on your samplerate (up to
48k you can get 8 lightpipe channels, over that, the
lightpipe's bandwidth limits it to 4), and 2 SPDIF ins & outs;
so really you could get 36 total in's & outs going at once with
2 Multifaces. Or if you need 24 strictly analog i/o's, then 3
Multifaces would be your ticket.
As far as the mix buss goes, I am pretty sure I can hear a
difference between Cubase V3 and V1, which I had before... I
say "pretty sure" because there's always the chance I'm just
convincing myself that there's a difference when there really
is not - as I understand it, starting on v2 was when they used
the same audio engine as Nuendo (v1 supposedly did NOT have the
same audio engine as Nuendo - I've not been able to get a
definitive answer on this). Worst-case scenario, run submix
stems if you're worried about mix buss overstuffing (one stereo
submix each for drums, bass & other low-end stuff, guitars,
keys, vocals, and whatever else might be applicable - you could
do a separate one for solo instruemnts & ambient tracks, for
example); anyway, get yourself
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| Re: Anyone used this?Liquid MIx..No Waves SSL..WOW [message #73321 is a reply to message #73293] |
Fri, 29 September 2006 19:49 |
animix
Messages: 356
Registered: September 2006
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t;ARGH! It's only 5:59 and
>already this is the day from hell! The dogs kicked me out of
>bed, I tried going out into the stable, thinking Amy had taken
>the horses with her & at least I'd have some peace & quiet
>there, but between the horses kicking me, the bears rummaging
>around in the trash bins outside, and this muthaf^%#king skunk
>that just HAD to make his presence known, I didn't sleep a
>wink... well, off to the bathtub to soak in some peroxide &
>tomato juice to try & get this skunk smell off of me... I've
>got clients coming in at 10:00 for a mix session."
>
>Next day in the afternoon = "Whew! Man, I am exhausted, 176
>hours straight with no sleep, and with the problems I'm having
>with this rig, I don't think we got a viable mix down on ANY of
>their songs... because of the fire in the new PC, I went back
>to a Paris/Cubase mix matrix summed to a TASCAM Portastudio for
>that phat analog sound, and everything was going well until I
>tried to get the Portastudio sync'ed to a word clock -
>disaster... I was so sleepy that I didn't realize this was an
>impossibility... BTW, anyone know how to unwedge a BNC cable
>from an RCA audio-in jack once they've been super-glued to each
>other???"
>
>:D
>
>
>Hi,
Not only DJ but my humble setup is a crazy one too.
For now I connect like this:
Creamware Pulsar card adat optical out feeding Soundscape SS8IO-2 ADAt/tdif
CONVERTER.
Soundscape's wordclock out goes to Mec 1
Creamware Pulsar Adat out feeds another SS8IO-2 which feeds another mec via
wordclock.
Soundscape SS8IO-3 (8 AD/DA converter) gets clock from SS8IO-2's TDIF out
and same SS8IO-3 send via wordclock clock to 3rd mec.
With me so far ?
Now the fun part.
First SS8IO-2 sends clock to ADI-PRO8 (used for main DA) via their TDIF conncetion.
1st Mec sends wordclock out to a Behringer ultramizer which reclocks my main
AD converter which has no w/c in out.
2nd Mec sends w/c to a DBX 376 preamp and from there to a DBX 386 with daisy
chaining
3rd Mec send wordclock to Behringer ADA-8000 8 channel converter.
Pulsar Creamware of course is the master device.
ADAT sync out sends clock to Lexicon core 32 reverb card (thanks DJ)
Now whose wordclock setup is the crazyest mine or DJ's ?
Now here is the real question.
If I use a clock generator I will need 8-10 clock outputs to clock everything.
I don't wanna spend more than 600-700 $ for a complete wordclock setup that
will be stable and hassle free and soundwise better than Paris clock.
I thought of the HOSA cheap and a distributor.
I thought of having ADI-PRO8 rme as master and buy just a distributor like
Drawmer 20 out (!!!) D-clock device whic sells for 700 $ but I am afraid
of RME as master.
Anyone to rescue me ?
Regards,
DimitriosOne crazy question.
What bhappens if you use a T connector to split clock output on ,say, a Hosa
clock generator which has 4 outs so will get 8 ?
Is this a no-no ?
Regards,
Dimitrios
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>
>Hi,
>Not only DJ but my humb
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| Re: Anyone used this?Liquid MIx..No Waves SSL..WOW [message #73324 is a reply to message #73285] |
Fri, 29 September 2006 20:40 |
animix
Messages: 356
Registered: September 2006
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quot; <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Hey Deej, did you see this?
>
>http://www.solidsoundstudio.net/index.html
>
>Forte extras page:
>http://www.brainspawn.com/products/forte/?op=extras
>
>"DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote:
>>When I go to the menu to select output busses, all my stereo outputs are
>>showing up but the menu list only shows the first 12 of my mono outputs.
>I
>>can't scroll down to access the rest of them. Are you having this problem.?
>>If so, any suggestions?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Deej
>>
>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:452e9d5c$1@linux...
>>>
>>> DJ, check out this VST host app. Could replace your Cuabse SX in hosting
>>FX.
>>>
>>> http://www.brainspawn.com/products/
>>
>>
>And 100mbit is enough for _gobs_ of audio tracks.
I think a lot of the people who have trouble with disappearing firewire/USB
stuff on Windows don't do their power managemnt correctly. I discovered this
when working on getting better stability on laptop audio interfaces and found
that driver settings for how the OS manages power to external devices can
change how 'sticky' they are. That can cause problems with all kinds of removable
devices on, gasp, both Macs and Windows boxes. But hey, I'm not 'pro' anyway.
In better news, the eclipse project has allowed me to dismess yet one more
proprietary application, and the Apache::MP3 perl module lets me get rid
of another. I'll really be down to one stinking XP box in my house pretty
soon, plus the laptop for live shows. If only there were Live for Debian
. . .
TCB
"alex plasko" <alex.plasko@snet.net> wrote:
>I think the problem is with service pack 2. from what i understand it
>automatically throttles the bus speed down to S100 ,unless you tweak it
a
>little. RME tech support gives a work around for that issue. rme explains
>in depth here :
>http://www.rme-audio.com/english/techinfo/fw800sp2.htm
>I dont know if this will work with other interfaces but it should.am i
>wrong?
>
>"EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message news:452e6093@linux...
>> We have had a few customers with M-audio FW interfaces that have had
>> the dissapearing problem. They have been in the middle of takes when
>> suddenly their I/O is just gone. It also makes a difference if it is
>> an on-board FW port or an add-on card. The latter seem to be more
>> stable, perhaps it is a driver issue.
>>
>> David.
>>
>> TCB wrote:
>>
>>> Never happened to me, and there ain't no fruit labeled computers in my
>>> house.
>>> I use a Presonus FW interface on both my laptop and desktop all the time.
>>> Maybe I'm just lucky.
>>>
>>> EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Having your interface "dissapear" during a session (PC) requiring a
>>>>re-boot is not what I would call pro. While the quality of the
>>>>interfaces is good, it's Windows control of Firewire that is not. I
>>>>would stay away from FW for serious work until they get it sorted out.
>>>> The MAC support of FW is fine, but it should be... they invented the
>>>>thing! ;-)
>>>>
>>>>David.
>>>>
>>>>TCB wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>What's not 'pro' about firewire interfaces?
>>>>>
>>>>>EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>If you want truly pro... as in no problems and good sound... Card
>>>>>>based I/O is the way to go (No USB or FW). The RME stuff sounds great
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>and works well. The Multiface also has and adat I/O port for
>>>>>>additional capability.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>David.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>John wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Rather, Which audio interfaces are truly pro quality and can give
me
>>>>>
>>>>>16 in/outs?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>RME ? others ????
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>
>
>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:452f8e96$1@linux...
>
> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
> >Ok, what hardware can do this?
>
> A Studer 827, plus a console, plus a bunch of outboard gear can
> do all that.
>
>
> >Daw needed:
>
> Oh... sorry, didn't see that part at first.
>
> >Truly pro audio sound quality
> >Records 24 analog channels simultaneously while playing back 24 analog
> >Can play back 60 analog channels total with dozens of plugsins.
> >I/O needs to be 20 feet away from the computer that is in another room
> >Has a mix buss that doesnt get crushed by lots of tracks
> >Supports plugin delay compensation and plugin automation.
> >Supports VSTi's
>
> CubaseSX (or Nuendo, of course) can do all this if you go with
> 2 RME Multiface's. Each Multiface has 8 analog ins & outs, plus
> 4 or 8 lightpipe channels, depending on your samplerate (up to
> 48k you can get 8 lightpipe channels, over that, the
> lightpipe's bandwidth limits it to 4), and 2 SPDIF ins & outs;
> so really you could get 36 total in's & outs going at once with
> 2 Multifaces. Or if you need 24 strictly analog i/o's, then 3
> Multifaces would be your ticket.
>
> As far as the mix buss goes, I am pretty sure I can hear a
> difference between Cubase V3 and V1, which I had before... I
> say "pretty sure" because there's always the chance I'm just
> convincing myself that there's a difference when there really
> is not - as I understand it, starting on v2 was when they used
> the same audio engine as Nuendo (v1 supposedly did NOT have the
> same audio engine as Nuendo - I've not been able to get a
> definitive answer on this). Worst-case scenario, run submix
> stems if you're worried about mix buss overstuffing (one stereo
> submix
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Fri, 29 September 2006 22:24 |
LaMont
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>>lightpipe's bandwidth limits it to 4), and 2 SPDIF ins & outs;
>>so really you could get 36 total in's & outs going at once with
>>2 Multifaces. Or if you need 24 strictly analog i/o's, then 3
>>Multifaces would be your ticket.
>>
>>As far as the mix buss goes, I am pretty sure I can hear a
>>difference between Cubase V3 and V1, which I had before... I
>>say "pretty sure" because there's always the chance I'm just
>>convincing myself that there's a difference when there really
>>is not - as I understand it, starting on v2 was when they used
>>the same audio engine as Nuendo (v1 supposedly did NOT have the
>>same audio engine as Nuendo - I've not been able to get a
>>definitive answer on this). Worst-case scenario, run submix
>>stems if you're worried about mix buss overstuffing (one stereo
>>submix each for drums, bass & other low-end stuff, guitars,
>>keys, vocals, and whatever else might be applicable - you could
>>do a separate one for solo instruemnts & ambient tracks, for
>>example); anyway, get yourself at least four submix stems, then
>>import those into a new project either for a straight-ahead
>>group mixdown or mastering & you can DEFINITELY hear a
>>difference that way. It's not a huge difference, but it's
>>definitely one you'll notice.
>>
>>I'm pretty sure the Steinberg stuff is the only DAW solution
>>that will do literally everything you specify above, without
>>exception.
>>
>>Neil
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>
> Me too.
>
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You mean, like this? ;-)
david.
Don Nafe wrote:
> ProTools HD3
>
> It's the Industry standard
>
> you'll have regular updates keeping you on the cutting edge of technology
>
> without a doubt it is the essence of "today's sound"
>
> You'll be the envy of all your "Project Studio" friends
>
> You'll be able to sit back all comfy in your smugness knowing that all other
> players are in fact pretenders
>
> ProTools HD3...it's the only way to go
>
>
> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:452fb161$1@linux...
>
>>Thanks, I have a lot to learn. I won't buy it if I have to do stems
>>though.
>>It's a pain in the ass enough as it is.
>>John
>>
>>"DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote:
>>
>>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:452f8e96$1@linux...
>>>
>>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Ok, what hardware can do this?
>>>>
>>>>A Studer 827, plus a console, plus a bunch of outboard gear can
>>>>do all that.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Daw needed:
>>>>
>>>>Oh... sorry, didn't see that part at first.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Truly pro audio sound quality
>>>>>Records 24 analog channels simultaneously while playing back 24 analog
>>>>>Can play back 60 analog channels total with dozens of plugsins.
>>>>>I/O needs to be 20 feet away from the computer that is in another room
>>>>>Has a mix buss that doesnt get crushed by lots of tracks
>>>>>Supports plugin delay compensation and plugin automation.
>>>>>Supports VSTi's
>>>>
>>>>CubaseSX (or Nuendo, of course) can do all this if you go with
>>>>2 RME Multiface's. Each Multiface has 8 analog ins & outs, plus
>>>>4 or 8 lightpipe channels, depending on your samplerate (up to
>>>>48k you can get 8 lightpipe channels, over that, the
>>>>lightpipe's bandwidth li
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Dedric Terry
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