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Re: RIP Michael Brecker [message #78319 is a reply to message #78316] Sat, 13 January 2007 22:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: RIP Michael Brecker [message #78320 is a reply to message #78316] Sat, 13 January 2007 23:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: RIP Michael Brecker [message #78323 is a reply to message #78316] Sun, 14 January 2007 10:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: RIP Michael Brecker [message #78327 is a reply to message #78316] Sun, 14 January 2007 08:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: RIP Michael Brecker [message #78349 is a reply to message #78323] Sun, 14 January 2007 11:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Anyway, the bottom line is Apple has no choice but to have some form of restrictions
in order for the iTunes music store to work. That is the deal they have
with the record industry. I believe Apple is will to change, but it's really
up to the record industry.

James


"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>"Ted Gerber" <tedgerber@rogers.com> wrote:
>>
>>http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughtsonmusic/
>
>I'm not 100% sold that this is genuine, that Apple would really open up
iPods
>to use any software in the world to load and unload music, but if I could
>load .ogg files onto a Nano from my Debian laptop I would buy one in a second.
>flac support would really, really be nice too.
>
>But the real point here, I think, is that Apple knows it owns the portable
>device market now and they're not terribly happy with the deals they struck
>with the media cartels to make that market. Legitimate complaint in many
>ways, 'Hey fellas, before us you were stuck flogging CDs nobody wanted to
>buy anymore, and we dug the ditches to get you out of that mess. But people
>don't like the DRM and we think we can sell a little more now that you guys
>aren't allergic to the term 'download.''
>
>But Apple is in many ways a victim of their own success. Having made the
>iPod the market dominant portable player, everyone else says (almost certainly
>incorrectly), 'Hey, let's make our own brilliant little player for [insert
>type of media that cartel wants to flog] and keep from paying Estebahn Jobs
>his vig.' And your ISP will want their ounce of flesh, and everyone who
thinks
>they're getting screwed in the deal will try to find some DMCA reason to
>sue everyone else, etc. and so forth.
>
>So I think the Jobs piece is good, though a bit disingenuous. And as I said,
>when I can load OGG/FLAC to my iPod from my linux boxes I'd love to have
>one.
>
>TCB"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>According to things I've read Apple pays an average of around
80 cents a song.

And for a record label who has invested half a mil or more into
a band, that equates to HOW many downloads to break even? So
you're saying that in this field, Apple should be able to turn a
profit selling iPods, and turn a profit selling downloads, but
the labels should get what? Squat? Or less than squat?

of COURSE Jobs would like to see no DRM - what does he have to
lose by that? Absolutely nothing; especially since he's not
investing any money in the front-end of making the music itself.

Neil"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:

>People might not like the content, but from a sonic standpoint it's about
>1000x more interesting that whatever geezer rock retread platter was just
>released.


Endless Wire is great, vital, and new music made by geezers,
not "geezer rock".

have you heard it?


How was your NOOGIE btw?

DC"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>According to things I've read Apple pays an average of around
>80 cents a song.
>
>And for a record label who has invested half a mil or more into
>a band, that equates to HOW many downloads to break even? So
>you're saying that in this field, Apple should be able to turn a
>profit selling iPods, and turn a profit selling downloads, but
>the labels should get what? Squat? Or less than squat?

Neil PLEASE!

Apple is just one of many resellers of the record industries products. News
flash Apple helped turn them around!!! The Record Companies were dyeing
on the vine. Apple came up with a business model that worked. There were
other companies that were around like mp3.com that didn't really work, it
wasn't until Apple got in to the game. Apple is NOT screwing the record
labels. Apple has help the labels sell their product!!!

Who do you think get screwed when an artist gets 8 to 13 cents a record that
sells for $10.00 to $20.00? Who do you think makes all the money? In a
typical record deal, that half a million dollars has to be payed back by
the band or artist before the artist sees any profit. If the artist is
not profitable the record company gets to write off the loss! It's a nice
little deal they got going with the government. If the artist doesn't make
it they go bankrupt, and are ofte
Re: RIP Michael Brecker [message #78477 is a reply to message #78316] Tue, 16 January 2007 09:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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nel pass through) isn't changing the summing -
it's
>just rounding the final mix EQ, compressing a bit with a little saturation,
>and perhaps adding some phase non-linearities.
>
>That said, if you like the sound and you get a great mix, that's what it's
>all about, regardless of the details of how you got there. :-)
>
>Regards,
>Dedric
>
>On 2/11/07 12:53 AM, in article 45cebd82$1@linux, "LaMont"
><jjd


Re: RIP Michael Brecker [message #101547 is a reply to message #78477] Tue, 09 December 2008 23:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: RIP Michael Brecker [message #101549 is a reply to message #101547] Tue, 09 December 2008 23:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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