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| Re: The holiday spirit is really evident in TV programming [message #61196 is a reply to message #61195] |
Mon, 12 December 2005 00:44   |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
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he SSL,
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>>>>At my home studio, I have PT LE & Nuendo and while I love Nuendo's elequent
>>>>editing and nice soft sound, it's 32 bit floating mixer in a major pain
>>>in
>>>>!@# to mix aggresive Rock, R &B, Hip hop with. Onthe other hand, those
>>>same
>>>>mixes done in PT LE, have that sparkle and width. In Nuendo, after 30
>tracks,
>>>>things start's getting "smearded" and tracks levels tends to get lost
>or
>>>>they don't sit right.
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>>>>However, in PT Le, (same songs, tracks are not smeared, levels stay intacked,
>>>>and the overall mix sounds very professional, just like mixes in Paris..
>>>>
>>>>Some local Engineer friends in the area( Motown), have been in discussions
>>>>about the state of current DAWs and what's working and what's not. Opinions
>>>>varied,but the one constant opinion that was stated was how dificult
it
>>>was
>>>>to mix in Cubase and Nuendo on mixes over 30 tracks. No matter what i/o
>>>converters(Apogee,Lucid,Motu,
>>>>RME) mixing Rock , R&B, Hip-Hop is a dificult chore in SX/Nuendo..Where
>>>>as mixing in Paris and Pro Tools is not..
>>>>Hey,Just one Engineer's opinon.
>>>>
>>>>P.S<
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| Re: The holiday spirit is really evident in TV programming [message #61197 is a reply to message #61196] |
Mon, 12 December 2005 02:13 |
rick
Messages: 1976
Registered: February 2006
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>>>>Jsut for geekdum sakes, the new Sonar 5 uses a newly coded 64 to 32bit
>>>floating
>>>>point mixer..
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>>>>"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>>>>>Yukkk,
>>>>>Don't do it..PT I mean.
>>>>>I've just been playing with PT M-Powered 6.8, using my Delta 1010, and
>>>I
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>>>>>have to say...I don't like it.
>>>>>The interface is (IMNSHO), horrible, confusing, and convoluted.
>>>>>Moves that come easily in Paris, and more easily in Nuendo, are tiresome
>>>>in
>>>>>PT, apart from the reagon tool...taht has always been good, right from
>>>the
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>>>>>Session 8 days, but not much else.
>>>>>And..it only plays .MOV video files, which in my case is a no-no, (the
>>>full
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>>>>>TDM version may play the others but I don't think so).
>>>>>To top it off, playing one of my projects from Nuendo, (reassembled),
>>it
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>>>>>didn't have the "life" that the original had, by a long shot.
>>>>>I repeat...don't go there, Jeff......
>>>>>--
>>>>>Martin Harrington
>>>>>www.lendanear-sound.com
>>>>>
>>>>>"jef knight" <thestudio@allknightmusic.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:436fce7a$1@linux...
>>>>>>I just read the doc, thanks for posting the li
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| Re: The holiday spirit is really evident in TV programming [message #61214 is a reply to message #61210] |
Mon, 12 December 2005 08:24 |
Deej [1]
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Registered: January 2006
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>
> If I bought right now it would probably be some kind of rear
> projection deal.After reading some stuff on Cnet it seems some
> newer technolgy will be out this year and some prices dropping on
> things,but I guess you could always say that.
> Right now I'm wondering if I should hold off for a little bit,
> save a little money and see what happens technology-wise.
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> Thanks,
> Pete
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> "Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote:
>>Pete,
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>>I research this stuff a little bit from time to time. I bought a 42"
>>Plasma
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>>a couple of years ago. It's been a decent TV, but if I was looking now,
> I'd
>>go with the DLP technology rear projectors. The picture is actually better
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>>in my and several "TV magazine guru's" opinion, and the technology is very
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>>sturdy. Also, as Jef said, Plasma and LCD tech is very hard to repair.
>>It's
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>>more like if it goes bad, plan on replacing it. If you do go with a Plasma
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>>or LCD, get the extended warranty. If you go somewhere like Best Buy, try
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>>talking the salesman into discounting the TV by the price of the warranty,
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>>so you basically end up getting it free. That's what I did. They'll
>>usually
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>>work with you, because I think they make more commission on selling the
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>>warranties than the TV's. That's my two cents!
>>
>>Tony
>>
>>
>>
>>"Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>news:43bb5535$1@
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| Re: The holiday spirit is really evident in TV programming [message #61240 is a reply to message #61214] |
Mon, 12 December 2005 17:34 |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
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dither, or not, then reprocessed to 24 bit, then
>> >>>>>>>>>>these
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>> >>>>>>>>>>channels
>> >>>>>>>>>>are summed. I'm no guru when it comes to this stuff, but I get
>> >>>>>>>>>>this
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>feeling
>> >>>>>>>>>>that this reprocessing *per channel* is the reason the TDM
> systems
>> >
>> >>>>>>>>>>seem
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>to
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>start sounding gnarly as more and more tracks are summed.
>> >>>>>>>>>>
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>Pete, My wife and I just picked up a 40" Samsung LCD last month and am very
happy with the results so far. Here is what we based our desicion on:
1) CRT's max out at around 34-36". We needed a little bigger and the depth
would be an issue in our room. CRT's were out for us.
2) Projection TV's look fine in the store but tend to crap out when ambient
light gets too high. We have 5 double-hung windows in our TV room, so this
wasn't an option for us. All the variants, LCoS, LCD, or DLP suffer from
this brightness/contrast issue. In my opinion, they also don't look as nice
as CRTs, plasma, or LCD's where the image is viewed directly.
3) We ruled out plasma for a couple of reasons; longevity, energy efficiency,
and most importantly, GLARE! I have this wierd thing for screen glare.
The slightest reflection on my screen bugs me like a tell-tale heart. I
probably obsess over it a little to much, but there you go.
This basically left me with LCD (non projection) as my choice. LCD screens
are matte (like most LCD PC monitors), they use less energy than plasma,
they don't suffer from burn-in, and they are thin and light. The biggest
drawback is cost,
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