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| Re: Paris reacts DIFFERENT under Me opposed to XP ! [message #67628 is a reply to message #67625] |
Wed, 03 May 2006 22:44   |
RZ
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t;>I have a bass track that this band I'm recording is happy with
>>>>>>>>>>the sound of, but I personally think sucks... OK, maybe I
>>>>>>>>>>should say it a different way: "They like it, but I think they
>>>>>>>>>>might like it even better if I could improve upon it :D
>>>>>>>>>>How's that for politically correct? lol
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Anyway, I'm thinking about reamping it or maybe Sans-amp-ing it,
>>>>>>>>>>but here's my question: If I pick up a Bass Sansamp, I know the
>>>>>>>>>>input isn't designed for line-level stuff, so if I run the
>>>>>>>>>>signal out of a line-level out on my convertors, then through a
>>>>>>>>>>mic pre that also has a line-level input and also an output
>>>>>>>>>>level control (of which I have a few), can I just feed a very
>>>>>>>>>>low level out of the preamp into the Sansamp input, or will I
>>>>>>>>>>run into impedance issues with this method?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Reamping's no problem - I can easily rig that up, so if this
>>>>>>>>>>other option doesn't work, I can always fall back on that, but
>>>>>>>>>>for another choice, would a Sansamp box work in this instance?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Problem is "Farty distortion", BTW. It may take a re-tracking
>>>>>>>>>>with a better input chain than the bass player's Carvin head
>>>>>>>>>>line-out jack, but I want to at least investigate other options
>>>>>>>>>>first. Worst bass sound I ever permitted to go to track... how's
>>>>>>>>>>that for an achievement? lol Totally my fault, though -
>>>>>>>>>>despite the band insisting they liked it, I should have at
>>>>>>>>>>least taken a direct feed though a preamp or direct box on
>>>>>>>>>>another channel, as well.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Neil
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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thanks. I agree about Norton. It's raped my system before, then I found
a little app that finds all the Norton entries and files and gets rid of
them, which sure saved some head aches.
j
TCB wrote:
>AVG is roughly on par with AntiVir, and is a similar licensing scheme. They
>have a free (as in beer) version and a pay version. Clamwin is actually free
>(as in libre or speech) software, source code and all. I'd say all three
>work at least as well as the pay software and I'd take any one over Norton.
>
>
>TCB
>
>jef knight <thestudio@allknightmusic.com> wrote:
>
>
>>hey,
>>is this stuff superior to AVG?
>>j
>>
>>TCB wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Best way to deal with viruses and network attacks? Install Ubuntu on it.
>>>
>>>
>BY
>
>
>>>FAR the best option, though you will have to jump through some hoops for
>>>some kinds of media playback.
>>>
>>>If you insist on paying for an inferior Microsoft operating sytem, as an
>>>alternative to Norton I suggest AntiVir or Clamwin. AntiVir is free as
>>>
>>>
>in
>
>
>>>beer, Clamwin free as in beer and free as in speech (it's GPL'd). The downside
>>>is that Clamwin doesn't include a real time scanner--you have to tell it
>>>to scan something. I think the XP firewall is pretty decent, I use it on
>>>my machines but I also have my own firewall built into my home router.
>>>
>>>
>I
>
>
>>>think Zonealarm mostly just scares people.
>>>
>>>But try Ubuntu, after a little bit of kicking around you'll be thrilled
>>>
>>>
>you
>
>
>>>did.
>>>
>>>TCB
>>&
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| Re: Paris reacts DIFFERENT under Me opposed to XP ! [message #67632 is a reply to message #67625] |
Thu, 04 May 2006 01:32 |
Dimitrios
Messages: 1056
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ilt into my home router.
</pre>
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</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->I
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">think Zonealarm mostly just scares people.
But try Ubuntu, after a little bit of kicking around you'll be thrilled
</pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->you
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">did.
TCB
"Rod Lincoln" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com"><rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com></a> wrote:
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">Here's the deal. I've been running Norton Systemworks 2002 on my internet
comp, renewing the antivirus subscription every year. My subscription
</pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->ran
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">out yesterday and upon trying to renew it, I was informed it was no longer
supported, and I had to upgrade to whatever 2006. Since I've read some
</pre>
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</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->of
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">you are down on Norton, I thought I'd ask for opinions on what to switch
to. Sooooo....what do you guys like?
I don't use the norton firewall. I use the free Zone Alarm one.
I kind of like the system tune up thing that Norton did. I don't think
</pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->I've
</pre>
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<blockquote type="cite">
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<pre wrap="">had a crash...ever, on this comp.
Rod
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hey,<br>
is this stuff superior to AVG?<br>
j<br>
<br>
TCB wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid44737517$1@linux" type="cite">
<pre wrap="">Best way to deal with viruses and network attacks? Install
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->Ubuntu on
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">it. BY
FAR the best option, though you will have to jump through some hoops for
some kinds of media playback.
If you insist on paying for an inferior Microsoft operating sytem, as an
alternative to Norton I suggest AntiVir or Clamwin. AntiVir is free as in
beer, Clamwin free as in beer and free as in speech (it's GPL'd). The downside
is that Clamwin doesn't include a real time scanner--you have to tell it
to scan something. I think the XP firewall is pretty decent, I use it on
my machines but I also have my own firewall built into my home router. I
think Zonealarm mostly just scares people.
But try Ubuntu, after a little bit of kicking around you'll be thrilled
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->you
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">did.
TCB
"Rod Lincoln" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com"</a>><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com"><rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com></a></a>
wrote:
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">Here's the deal. I've been running Norton Systemworks 2002
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->on my internet
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">comp, renewing the antivirus subscription every year. My subscription ran
out yesterday and upon trying to renew it, I was informed it was no longer
supported, and I had to upgrade to whatever 2006. Since I've read some of
you are down on Norton, I thought I'd ask for opinions on what to swi
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| Re: Paris reacts DIFFERENT under Me opposed to XP ! [message #67636 is a reply to message #67634] |
Thu, 04 May 2006 02:23 |
Dimitrios
Messages: 1056
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I think that was what actually made the song win, in part,
unfortunately. Around here when we hear a band trying to be so
commercial that their music is parodying itself we call it "toy
music"...fine for kids but don't take it on the Autobahn....<br>
j<br>
<br>
Don Nafe wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid4474513e$1@linux" type="cite">
<pre wrap="">Maybe it's just me but does anyone else thing the whole groove i.e. what the
drummer is playing, is all wrong for that song
death metal meets 80's hair band...doesn't work for me
Don
"DC" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dc@shreddersinhell.org"><dc@shreddersinhell.org></a> wrote in message <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="news:4473679f$1@linux">news:4473679f$1@linux</a>...
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">Yeow!
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href=" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njDtlnNkjko&search=dragon force">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njDtlnNkjko&search=dragonforce</a>
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military tech sheet...you were luckey...the ones I have are more like
badly translated chinese restaurant menus...."this is a truly sound"...lol
j
DJ wrote:
>Cool man. Is the Roland manual fairly easy to grok. Last Roland product I
>owned had a manual that reminded me of a military tech sheet.
>
>Enjoy
>
>;OP
>
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44758fad$1@linux...
>
>
>>DJ, you need this, It's freaking sweet. Get it from RMCAudio.com and
>>
>>
>with
>
>
>>double kick and two plastic beaters. $4700 will get you going plus $60
>>
>>
>for
>
>
>>the compact flash from staples and $100 or so for all the drum presets
>>
>>
>you'll
>
>
>>want.
>>
>>http://www.zzounds.com/item--ROLTD20SBK
>>
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military tech sheet...you were luckey...the ones I have are more like
badly translated chinese restaurant menus...."this is a truly
sound"...lol<br>
j<br>
<br>
DJ wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid4475ade8$1@linux" type="cite">
<pre wrap="">Cool man. Is the Roland manual fairly easy to grok. Last Roland product I
owned had a manual that reminded me of a military tech sheet.
Enjoy
;OP
"John" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:no@no.com"><no@no.com></a> wrote in message <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="news:44758fad$1@linux">news:44758fad$1@linux</a>...
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">DJ, you need this, It's freaking sweet. Get it from RMCAudio.com and
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->with
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">double kick and two plastic beaters. $4700 will get you going plus $60
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->for
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">the compact flash from staples and $100 or so for all the drum presets
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->you'll
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">want.
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.zzounds.com/item--ROLTD20SBK">http://www.zzounds.com/item--ROLTD20SBK</a>
DJ want.....DJ must have......DJ want.....DJ must have......DJ want.....DJ
must have......DJ want.....DJ must have......DJ want.....DJ must
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want.....DJ must have......DJ want.....DJ must have......DJ want.....DJ
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want.....DJ must have......DJ want.....DJ must have......DJ want.....DJ
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--------------060807020906070203050506--I'm curious, what do you mean by "Raped" your system. I've never experienced
what other people are saying about Norton. That being said, I'm not trying
to defend it either. If there's something better, I would like to be using
it.
Rod
jef knight <thestudio@allknightmusic.com> wrote:
>
>thanks. I agree about Norton. It's raped my system before, then I found
>a little app that finds all the Norton entries and files and gets rid of
>them, which sure saved some head aches.
>j
>
>TCB wrote:
>
>>AVG is roughly on par with AntiVir, and is a similar licensing scheme.
They
>>have a free (as in beer) version and a pay version. Clamwin is actually
free
>>(as in libre or speech) software, source code and all. I'd say all three
>>work at least as well as the pay software and I'd take any one over Norton.
>>
>>
>>TCB
>>
>>jef knight <thestudio@allknightmusic.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>hey,
>>>is this stuff superior to AVG?
>>>j
>>>
>>>TCB wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Best way to deal with viruses and network attacks? Install Ubuntu on
it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>BY
>>
>>
>>>>FAR the best option, though you will have to jump through some hoops
for
>>>>some kinds of media playback.
>>>>
>>>>If you insist on paying for an inferior Microsoft operating sytem, as
an
>>>>alternative to Norton I suggest AntiVir or Clamwin. AntiVir is free as
>>>>
>>>>
>>in
>>
>>
>>>>beer, Clamwin free as in beer and free as in speech (it's GPL'd). The
downside
>>>>is that Clamwin doesn't include a real time scanner--you have to tell
it
>>>>to scan something. I think the XP firewall is pretty decent, I use it
on
>>>>my machines but I also have my own firewall built into my home router.
>>>>
>>>>
>>I
>>
>>
>>>>think Zonealarm mostly just scares people.
>>>>
>>>>But try Ubuntu, after a little bit of kicking around you'll be thrilled
>>>>
>>>>
>>you
>>
>>
>>>>did.
>>>>
>>>>TCB
>>>>
>>>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Here's the deal. I've been running Norton Systemworks 2002 on my internet
>>>>>comp, renewing the antivirus subscription every year. My subscription
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>ran
>>
>>
>>>>>out yesterday and upon trying to renew it, I was informed it was no
longer
>>>>>supported, and I had to upgrade to whatever 2006. Since I've read some
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>of
>>
>>
>>>>>you are down on Norton, I thought I'd ask for opinions on what to switch
>>>>>to. Sooooo....what do you guys like?
>>>>>
>>>>>I don't use the norton firewall. I use the free Zone Alarm one.
>>>>>I kind of like the system tune up thing that Norton did. I don't think
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>I've
>>
>>
>>>>>had a crash...ever, on this comp.
>>>>>Rod
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>><!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
>>><html>
>>><head>
>>> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type">
>>></head>
>>><body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
>>>hey,<br>
>>>is this stuff superior to AVG?<br>
>>>j<br>
>>><br>
>>>TCB wrote:
>>><blockquote cite="mid44737517$1@linux" type="cite">
>>> <pre wrap="">Best way to deal with viruses and network attacks? Install
>>>
>>>
>>Ubuntu on
>>
>>
>>>it. BY
>>>FAR the best option, though you will have to jump through some hoops for
>>>some kinds of media playback.
>>>
>>>If you insist on paying for an inferior Microsoft operating sytem, as
an
>>>alternative to Norton I suggest AntiVir or Clamwin. AntiVir is free as
in
>>>beer, Clamwin free as in beer and free as in speech (it's GPL'd). The
downside
>>>is that Clamwin doesn't include a real time scanner--you have to tell
it
>>>to scan something. I think the XP firewall is pretty decent, I use it
on
>>>my machines but I also have my own firewall built into my home router.
I
>>>think Zonealarm mostly just scares people.
>>>
>>>But try Ubuntu, after a little bit of kicking around you'll be thrilled
>>>
>>>
>>you
>>
>>
>>>did.
>>>
>>>TCB
>>>
>>>"Rod Lincoln" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com"><rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com></a>
>>>wrote:
>>> </pre>
>>> <blockquote type="cite">
>>> <pre wrap="">Here's the deal. I've been running Norton Systemworks
2002
>>>
>>>
>>on my internet
>>
>>
>>>comp, renewing the antivirus subscription every year. My subscription
ran
>>>out yesterday and upon trying to renew it, I was informed it was no longer
>>>supported, and I had to upgrade to whatever 2006. Since I've read some
of
>>>you are down on Norton, I thought I'd ask for opinions on what to switch
>>>to. Sooooo....what do you guys like?
>>>
>>>I don't use the norton firewall. I use the free Zone Alarm one.
>>>I kind of like the system tune up thing that Norton did. I don't think
I've
>>>had a crash...ever, on this comp.
>>>Rod
>>> </pre>
>>> </blockquote>
>>> <pre wrap=""><!---->
>>> </pre>
>>></blockquote>
>>></body>
>>></html>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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>
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><head>
> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type">
> <title></title>
></head>
><body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
>thanks. I agree about Norton. It's raped my system before, then I found
>a little app that finds all the Norton entries and files and gets rid
>of them, which sure saved some head aches.<br>
>j<br>
><br>
>TCB wrote:
><blockquote cite="mid4474552d$1@linux" type="cite">
> <pre wrap="">AVG is roughly on par with AntiVir, and is a similar licensing
scheme.
>They
>have a free (as in beer) version and a pay version. Clamwin is actually
free
>(as in libre or speech) software, source code and all. I'd say all three
>work at least as well as the pay software and I'd take any one over Norton.
>
>
>TCB
>
>jef knight <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:thestudio@allknightmusic.com"><thestudio@allknightmusic.com></a>
>wrote:
> </pre>
> <blockquote type="cite">
> <pre wrap="">hey,
>is this stuff superior to AVG?
>j
>
>TCB wrote:
>
> </pre>
> <blockquote type="cite">
> <pre wrap="">Best way to deal with viruses and network attacks? Install
Ubuntu
>on it.
> </pre>
> </blockquote>
> </blockquote>
> <pre wrap=""><!---->BY
> </pre>
> <blockquote type="cite">
> <blockquote type="cite">
> <pre wrap="">FAR the best option, though you will have to jump through
some hoops
>for
>some kinds of media playback.
>
>If you insist on paying for an inferior Microsoft operating sytem, as an
>alternative to Norton I suggest AntiVir or Clamwin. AntiVir is free as
> </pre>
> </blockquote>
> </blockquote>
> <pre wrap=""><!---->in
> </pre>
> <blockquote type="cite">
> <blockquote type="cite">
> <pre wrap="">beer, Clamwin free as in beer and free as in speech (it's
GPL'd).
>The downside
>is that Clamwin doesn't include a real time scanner--you have to tell it
>to scan something. I think the XP firewall is pretty decent, I use it on
>my machines but I also have my own firewall built into my home router.
> </pre>
> </blockquote>
> </blockquote>
> <pre wrap=""><!---->I
> </pre>
> <blockquote type="cite">
> <blockquote type="cite">
> <pre wrap="">think Zonealarm mostly just scares people.
>
>But try Ubuntu, after a little bit of kicking around you'll be thrilled
> </pre>
> </blockquote>
> </blockquote>
> <pre wrap=""><!---->you
> </pre>
> <blockquote type="cite">
> <blockquote type="cite">
> <pre wrap="">did.
>
>TCB
>
>"Rod Lincoln" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com"><rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com></a>
>wrote:
>
>
> </pre>
> <blockquote type="cite">
> <pre wrap="">Here's the deal. I've been running Norton Systemworks
2002 on my
>internet
>comp, renewing the antivirus subscription every year. My subscription
> </pre>
> </blockquote>
> </blockquote>
> </blockquote>
> <pre wrap=""><!---->ran
> </pre>
> <blockquote type="cite">
> <blockquote type="cite">
> <blockquote type="cite">
> <pre wrap="">out yesterday and upon trying to renew it, I was informed
it was
>no longer
>supported, and I had to upgrade to whatever 2006. Since I've read some
> </pre>
> </blockquote>
> </blockquote>
> </blockquote>
> <pre wrap=""><!---->of
> </pre>
> <blockquote type="cite">
> <blockquote type="cite">
> <blockquote type="cite">
> <pre wrap="">you are down on Norton, I thought I'd ask for opinions
on what
>to switch
>to. Sooooo....what do you guys like?
>
>I don't use the norton firewall. I use the free Zone Alarm one.
>I kind of like the system tune up thing that Norton did. I don't think
> </pre>
> </blockquote>
> </blockquote>
> </blockquote>
> <pre wrap=""><!---->I've
> </pre>
> <blockquote type="cite">
> <blockquote type="cite">
> <blockquote type="cite">
> <pre wrap="">had a crash...ever, on this comp.
>Rod
>
>
> </pre>
> </blockquote>
> <pre wrap="">
>
> </pre>
> </blockquote>
> <pre wrap="">
><!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
><html>
><head>
> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type">
></head>
><body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
>hey,<br>
>is this stuff superior to AVG?<br>
>j<br>
><br>
>TCB wrote:
><blockquote cite="mid44737517$1@linux" type="cite">
> <pre wrap="">Best way to deal with viruses and network attacks? Install
> </pre>
> </blockquote>
> <pre wrap=""><!---->Ubuntu on
> </pre>
> <blockquote type="cite">
> <pre wrap="">it. BY
>FAR the best option, though you will have to jump through some hoops for
>some kinds of media playback.
>
>If you insist on paying for an inferior Microsoft operating sytem, as an
>alternative to Norton I suggest AntiVir or Clamwin. AntiVir is free as in
>beer, Clamwin free as in beer and free as in speech (it's GPL'd). The downside
>is that Clamwin doesn't include a real time scanner--you have to tell it
>to scan something. I think the XP firewall is pretty decent, I use it on
>my machines but I also have my own firewall built into my home router. I
>think Zonealarm mostly just scares people.
>
>But try Ubuntu, after a little bit of kicking around you'll be thrilled
> </pre>
> </blockquote>
> <pre wrap=""><!---->you
> </pre>
> <blockquote type="cite">
> <pre wrap="">did.
>
>TCB
>
>"Rod Lincoln" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
>href="mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com"</a>><a
>class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com"><rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com></a></a>
>wrote:
> </pre>
> <blockquote type="cite">
> <pre wrap="">Here's the deal. I've been running Norton Systemworks 2002
> </pre>
> </blockquote>
> <pre wrap=""><!---->on my internet
> </pre>
> <blockquote type="cite">
> <pre wrap="">comp, renewing the antivirus subscription every year. My
subscription
>ran
>out yesterday and upon trying to renew it, I was informed it was no longer
>supported, and I had to upgrade to whatever 2006. Since I've read some of
>you are down on Norton, I thought I'd ask for opinions on what to switch
>to. Sooooo....what do you guys like?
>
>I don't use the norton firewall. I use the free Zone Alarm one.
>I kind of like the system tune up thing that Norton did. I don't think I've
>had a crash...ever, on this comp.
>Rod
> </pre>
> </blockquote>
> <pre wrap=""><!---->
> </pre>
></blockquote>
></body>
></html>
>
> </pre>
> </blockquote>
> <pre wrap=""><!---->
> </pre>
></blockquote>
></body>
></html>
>yeah and 5 minutes after you're done reading...you need to read some
more...
On Thu, 25 May 2006 11:56:10 -0400, jef knight
<thestudio@allknightmusic.com> wrote:
>military tech sheet...you were luckey...the ones I have are more like
>badly translated chinese restaurant menus...."this is a truly sound"...lol
>j
>
>DJ wrote:
>
>>Cool man. Is the Roland manual fairly easy to grok. Last Roland product I
>>owned had a manual that reminded me of a military tech sheet.
>>
>>Enjoy
>>
>>;OP
>>
>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44758fad$1@linux...
>>
>>
>>>DJ, you need this, It's freaking sweet. Get it from RMCAudio.com and
>>>
>>>
>>with
>>
>>
>>>double kick and two plastic beaters. $4700 will get you going plus $60
>>>
>>>
>>for
>>
>>
>>>the compact flash from staples and $100 or so for all the drum presets
>>>
>>>
>>you'll
>>
>>
>>>want.
>>>
>>>http://www.zzounds.com/item--ROLTD20SBK
>>>
>>>DJ want.....DJ must have......DJ want.....DJ must have......DJ want.....DJ
>>>must have......DJ want.....DJ must have......DJ want.....DJ must
>>>
>>>
>>have......DJ
>>
>>
>>>want.....DJ must have......DJ wiant.....DJ must have......DJ want.....DJ
>>>
>>>
>>must
>>
>>
>>>have......DJ want.....DJ must have......DJ want.....DJ must have......DJ
>>>want.....DJ must have......DJ want.....DJ must have......DJ want.....DJ
>>>
>>>
>>must
>>
>>
>>>have......DJ want.....DJ must have......DJ want.....DJ must have......DJ
>>>want.....DJ must have......DJ want.....DJ must have......DJ want.....DJ
>>>
>>>
>>must
>>
>>
>>>have......DJ want.....DJ must have......DJ want.....DJ must have......
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>This is all just odd to me... reading the great jonesing on McAffee and the
negative reference to Norton as "invasive." I've have always found McAffees
stuff to be incredibly invasive and Norton (System works in particular) to
be very background, make it do what you want and not what you don't. I
recently got a call to fix 2 PC's... each had McCaffee and each was healed
with the removal of McAffee. The other thing with McAffee versus any other
AV/SystemHealth I've seen is the lack of configurability and the absolute BS
it throws in your face that you can't turn off. McAffee has exhibited
unwanted unwarranted paranoia about every little thing. Disbale it to
install a new app and it turns itself back on to tell you that it believes
your neighbor's cat may be using a dial-up connection to email Lex Luther's
evil twin in an attempt to have your brother-in-law sent back to prison.
Ignore that and it tell you that tomorrow, you're gonna have a wreck and
kill 2 nuns and 6 baby ducks if you don't upgrade now. Whereas, Norton just
does it job, doesn't fill every available space in your browser bars with
marketing hype and your OS with flashing lights and sirens.
Dubya
"tonehouse" <zmcleod@comcast.net> wrote in message news:447351c4$1@linux...
> Hi there Rod...Get rid of ZoneAlarm !!! it is totally useless,and causes
> all
> sorts of problems.....I also HATE Norton...their software is very
> "invasive",and probably mostly useless too....
> "john" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44734fb6$1@linux...
>>
>> I have had great success with Mcafee. Go to www.salescircular.com and
> pick
>> your state and on the bottom pick free after rebate. Often antivirus is
>> there for free.
>>
>> John
>>
>> "Mark McDermott" <mark@stateofwail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >Hi Rod,
>> >
>> >Check out www.bitdefender.com and a program named Spyware Doctor. That
> might
>> >be all you need. The combo of the two has kept my kids PC free of
> spyware,
>> >malware, and viruses for about a year now. It was a DISASTER before
>> >that.
>> >
>> >Mark
>> >
>> >"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>Here's the deal. I've been running Norton Systemworks 2002 on my
> internet
>> >>comp, renewing the antivirus subscription every year. My subscription
> ran
>> >>out yesterday and upon trying to renew it, I was informed it was no
> longer
>> >>supported, and I had to upgrade to whatever 2006. Since I've read some
>> of
>> >>you are down on Norton, I thought I'd ask for opinions on what to
>> >>switch
>> >>to. Sooooo....what do you guys like?
>> >>
>> >>I don't use the norton firewall. I use the free Zone Alarm one.
>> >>I kind of like the system tune up thing that Norton did. I don't think
>> I've
>> >>had a crash...ever, on this comp.
>> >>Rod
>> >
>>
>
>Same here Rod - never.
Dubya
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:4475e595$1@linux...
>
> I'm curious, what do you mean by "Raped" your system. I've never
> experienced
> what other people are saying about Norton. That being said, I'm not trying
> to defend it either. If there's something better, I would like to be using
> it.
> RodThat ain't DJ's snake. It's mine!
I just let him hold it for a little while.Hope it's foil shielded.
Dubya
"Mike Claytor" <claytor@psi.utexas.edu> wrote in message
news:44765de0$1@linux...
>
> That ain't DJ's snake. It's mine!
>
> I just let him hold it for a little while.This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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I am ready to update and wondered if I'll lose presets or functionality.
Tom
I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
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------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C68047.CFFE4A20--Just wondering.. were you using McAfee managed by chance? That thing is a
giant pile of crap, and you'd be dead on to say you get to configure
'nothing' about it. Their A/V I'm ok with, and the firewall I don't like.
Zone Alarm and AVG have never once failed me on my personal boxes.
Corporate.. well, that's another thing I have to live in a box on. But
Norton? Haven't had any kind of luck with it that is good. Nice to hear
another POV though, I don't feel quite as trodden upon by Symantec :)
AA
"W. Mark Wilson" <wmarkwilson@integrity.com> wrote in message
news:44763ee0@linux...
> This is all just odd to me... reading the great jonesing on McAffee and
> the negative reference to Norton as "invasive." I've have always found
> McAffees stuff to be incredibly invasive and Norton (System works in
> particular) to be very background, make it do what you want and not what
> you don't. I recently got a call to fix 2 PC's... each had McCaffee and
> each was healed with the removal of McAffee. The other thing with McAffee
> versus any other AV/SystemHealth I've seen is the lack of configurability
> and the absolute BS it throws in your face that you can't turn off.
> McAffee has exhibited unwanted unwarranted paranoia about every little
> thing. Disbale it to install a new app and it turns itself back on to
> tell you that it believes your neighbor's cat may be using a dial-up
> connection to email Lex Luther's evil twin in an attempt to have your
> brother-in-law sent back to prison. Ignore that and it tell you that
> tomorrow, you're gonna have a wreck and kill 2 nuns and 6 baby ducks if
> you don't upgrade now. Whereas, Norton just does it job, doesn't fill
> every available space in your browser bars with marketing hype and your OS
> with flashing lights and sirens.
>
> Dubya
>
> "tonehouse" <zmcleod@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:447351c4$1@linux...
>> Hi there Rod...Get rid of ZoneAlarm !!! it is totally useless,and causes
>> all
>> sorts of problems.....I also HATE Norton...their software is very
>> "invasive",and probably mostly useless too....
>> "john" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44734fb6$1@linux...
>>>
>>> I have had great success with Mcafee. Go to www.salescircular.com and
>> pick
>>> your state and on the bottom pick free after rebate. Often antivirus is
>>> there for free.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> "Mark McDermott" <mark@stateofwail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >Hi Rod,
>>> >
>>> >Check out www.bitdefender.com and a program named Spyware Doctor. That
>> might
>>> >be all you need. The combo of the two has kept my kids PC free of
>> spyware,
>>> >malware, and viruses for about a year now. It was a DISASTER before
>>> >that.
>>> >
>>> >Mark
>>> >
>>> >"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>Here's the deal. I've been running Norton Systemworks 2002 on my
>> internet
>>> >>comp, renewing the antivirus subscription every year. My subscription
>> ran
>>> >>out yesterday and upon trying to renew it, I was informed it was no
>> longer
>>> >>supported, and I had to upgrade to whatever 2006. Since I've read some
>>> of
>>> >>you are down on Norton, I thought I'd ask for opinions on what to
>>> >>switch
>>> >>to. Sooooo....what do you guys like?
>>> >>
>>> >>I don't use the norton firewall. I use the free Zone Alarm one.
>>> >>I kind of like the system tune up thing that Norton did. I don't think
>>> I've
>>> >>had a crash...ever, on this comp.
>>> >>Rod
>>> >
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
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Hey guys & gal,
I am ready to update and wondered if I'll lose presets or =
functionality.
Tom
I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
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------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C6803F.7841A1E0--Better, to me, means Grisoft. YMMV. I've been witness to the after effect of
specifically written viruses going in and dismantling norton w/o norton
knowing about it. Norton appears to be running properly / protecting, when
in fact it ain't. That is the real bad news for the recipient. Think of it
this way. There is a reason the big guys get put in the sights of every
little hacker wanna be. They are dominant, they bring the most 'glory' to
the little hacker that could. Same reason MS keeps (and believe me, Mac is
going to follow on the hit list) getting pants'd... they're the *big guy*
and a big target brings a lot of crosshairs on it's butt to the party.
Grisoft, Trend Micro, maybe Panda all fit that big enough to get it done
right but not so big they have a target painted on their heads.
AA
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:4475e595$1@linux...
>
> I'm curious, what do you mean by "Raped" your system. I've never
> experienced
> what other people are saying about Norton. That being said, I'm not trying
> to defend it either. If there's something better, I would like to be using
> it.
> Rod
> jef knight <thestudio@allknightmusic.com> wrote:
>>
>>thanks. I agree about Norton. It's raped my system before, then I found
>
>>a little app that finds all the Norton entries and files and gets rid of
>
>>them, which sure saved some head aches.
>>j
>>
>>TCB wrote:
>>
>>>AVG is roughly on par with AntiVir, and is a similar licensing scheme.
> They
>>>have a free (as in beer) version and a pay version. Clamwin is actually
> free
>>>(as in libre or speech) software, source code and all. I'd say all three
>>>work at least as well as the pay software and I'd take any one over
>>>Norton.
>>>
>>>
>>>TCB
>>>
>>>jef knight <thestudio@allknightmusic.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>hey,
>>>>is this stuff superior to AVG?
>>>>j
>>>>
>>>>TCB wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Best way to deal with viruses and network attacks? Install Ubuntu on
> it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>BY
>>>
>>>
>>>>>FAR the best option, though you will have to jump through some hoops
> for
>>>>>some kinds of media playback.
>>>>>
>>>>>If you insist on paying for an inferior Microsoft operating sytem, as
> an
>>>>>alternative to Norton I suggest AntiVir or Clamwin. AntiVir is free as
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>in
>>>
>>>
>>>>>beer, Clamwin free as in beer and free as in speech (it's GPL'd). The
> downside
>>>>>is that Clamwin doesn't include a real time scanner--you have to tell
> it
>>>>>to scan something. I think the XP firewall is pretty decent, I use it
> on
>>>>>my machines but I also have my own firewall built into my home router.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>I
>>>
>>>
>>>>>think Zonealarm mostly just scares people.
>>>>>
>>>>>But try Ubuntu, after a little bit of kicking around you'll be thrilled
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>you
>>>
>>>
>>>>>did.
>>>>>
>>>>>TCB
>>>>>
>>>>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Here's the deal. I've been running Norton Systemworks 2002 on my
>>>>>>internet
>>>>>>comp, renewing the antivirus subscription every year. My subscription
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>ran
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>out yesterday and upon trying to renew it, I was informed it was no
> longer
>>>>>>supported, and I had to upgrade to whatever 2006. Since I've read some
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>of
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>you are down on Norton, I thought I'd ask for opinions on what to
>>>>>>switch
>>>>>>to. Sooooo....what do you guys like?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I don't use the norton firewall. I use the free Zone Alarm one.
>>>>>>I kind of like the system tune up thing that Norton did. I don't think
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>I've
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>had a crash...ever, on this comp.
>>>>>>Rod
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>><!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
>>>><html>
>>>><head>
>>>> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type">
>>>></head>
>>>><body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
>>>>hey,<br>
>>>>is this stuff superior to AVG?<br>
>>>>j<br>
>>>><br>
>>>>TCB wrote:
>>>><blockquote cite="mid44737517$1@linux" type="cite">
>>>> <pre wrap="">Best way to deal with viruses and network attacks? Install
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Ubuntu on
>>>
>>>
>>>>it. BY
>>>>FAR the best option, though you will have to jump through some hoops for
>>>>some kinds of media playback.
>>>>
>>>>If you insist on paying for an inferior Microsoft operating sytem, as
> an
>>>>alternative to Norton I suggest AntiVir or Clamwin. AntiVir is free as
> in
>>>>beer, Clamwin free as in beer and free as in speech (it's GPL'd). The
> downside
>>>>is that Clamwin doesn't include a real time scanner--you have to tell
> it
>>>>to scan something. I think the XP firewall is pretty decent, I use it
> on
>>>>my machines but I also have my own firewall built into my home router.
> I
>>>>think Zonealarm mostly just scares people.
>>>>
>>>>But try Ubuntu, after a little bit of kicking around you'll be thrilled
>>>>
>>>>
>>>you
>>>
>>>
>>>>did.
>>>>
>>>>TCB
>>>>
>>>>"Rod Lincoln" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
>>>>href="mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com"><rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com></a>
>>>>wrote:
>>>> </pre>
>>>> <blockquote type="cite">
>>>> <pre wrap="">Here's the deal. I've been running Norton Systemworks
> 2002
>>>>
>>>>
>>>on my internet
>>>
>>>
>>>>comp, renewing the antivirus subscription every year. My subscription
> ran
>>>>out yesterday and upon trying to renew it, I was informed it was no
>>>>longer
>>>>supported, and I had to upgrade to whatever 2006. Since I've read some
> of
>>>>you are down on Norton, I thought I'd ask for opinions on what to switch
>>>>to. Sooooo....what do you guys like?
>>>>
>>>>I don't use the norton firewall. I use the free Zone Alarm one.
>>>>I kind of like the system tune up thing that Norton did. I don't think
> I've
>>>>had a crash...ever, on this comp.
>>>>Rod
>>>> </pre>
>>>> </blockquote>
>>>> <pre wrap=""><!---->
>>>> </pre>
>>>></blockquote>
>>>></body>
>>>></html>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>><!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
>><html>
>><head>
>> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type">
>> <title></title>
>></head>
>><body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
>>thanks. I agree about Norton. It's raped my system before, then I found
>>a little app that finds all the Norton entries and files and gets rid
>>of them, which sure saved some head aches.<br>
>>j<br>
>><br>
>>TCB wrote:
>><blockquote cite="mid4474552d$1@linux" type="cite">
>> <pre wrap="">AVG is roughly on par with AntiVir, and is a similar
>> licensing
> scheme.
>>They
>>have a free (as in beer) version and a pay version. Clamwin is actually
> free
>>(as in libre or speech) software, source code and all. I'd say all three
>>work at least as well as the pay software and I'd take any one over
>>Norton.
>>
>>
>>TCB
>>
>>jef knight <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
>>href="mailto:thestudio@allknightmusic.com"><thestudio@allknightmusic.com></a>
>>wrote:
>> </pre>
>> <blockquote type="cite">
>> <pre wrap="">hey,
>>is this stuff superior to AVG?
>>j
>>
>>TCB wrote:
>>
>> </pre>
>> <blockquote type="cite">
>> <pre wrap="">Best way to deal with viruses and network attacks?
>> Install
> Ubuntu
>>on it.
>> </pre>
>> </blockquote>
>> </blockquote>
>> <pre wrap=""><!---->BY
>> </pre>
>> <blockquote type="cite">
>> <blockquote type="cite">
>> <pre wrap="">FAR the best option, though you will have to jump
>> through
> some hoops
>>for
>>some kinds of media playback.
>>
>>If you insist on paying for an inferior Microsoft operating sytem, as an
>>alternative to Norton I suggest AntiVir or Clamwin. AntiVir is free as
>> </pre>
>> </blockquote>
>> </blockquote>
>> <pre wrap=""><!---->in
>> </pre>
>> <blockquote type="cite">
>> <blockquote type="cite">
>> <pre wrap="">beer, Clamwin free as in beer and free as in speech
>> (it's
> GPL'd).
>>The downside
>>is that Clamwin doesn't include a real time scanner--you have to tell it
>>to scan something. I think the XP firewall is pretty decent, I use it on
>>my machines but I also have my own firewall built into my home router.
>> </pre>
>> </blockquote>
>> </blockquote>
>> <pre wrap=""><!---->I
>> </pre>
>> <blockquote type="cite">
>> <blockquote type="cite">
>> <pre wrap="">think Zonealarm mostly just scares people.
>>
>>But try Ubuntu, after a little bit of kicking around you'll be thrilled
>> </pre>
>> </blockquote>
>> </blockquote>
>> <pre wrap=""><!---->you
>> </pre>
>> <blockquote type="cite">
>> <blockquote type="cite">
>> <pre wrap="">did.
>>
>>TCB
>>
>>"Rod Lincoln" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
>>href="mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com"><rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com></a>
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>> </pre>
>> <blockquote type="cite">
>> <pre wrap="">Here's the deal. I've been running Norton Systemworks
> 2002 on my
>>internet
>>comp, renewing the antivirus subscription every year. My subscription
>> </pre>
>> </blockquote>
>> </blockquote>
>> </blockquote>
>> <pre wrap=""><!---->ran
>> </pre>
>> <blockquote type="cite">
>> <blockquote type="cite">
>> <blockquote type="cite">
>> <pre wrap="">out yesterday and upon trying to renew it, I was
>> informed
> it was
>>no longer
>>supported, and I had to upgrade to whatever 2006. Since I've read some
>> </pre>
>> </blockquote>
>> </blockquote>
>> </blockquote>
>> <pre wrap=""><!---->of
>> </pre>
>> <blockquote type="cite">
>> <blockquote type="cite">
>> <blockquote type="cite">
>> <pre wrap="">you are down on Norton, I thought I'd ask for
>> opinions
> on what
>>to switch
>>to. Sooooo....what do you guys like?
>>
>>I don't use the norton firewall. I use the free Zone Alarm one.
>>I kind of like the system tune up thing that Norton did. I don't think
>> </pre>
>> </blockquote>
>> </blockquote>
>> </blockquote>
>> <pre wrap=""><!---->I've
>> </pre>
>> <blockquote type="cite">
>> <blockquote type="cite">
>> <blockquote type="cite">
>> <pre wrap="">had a crash...ever, on this comp.
>>Rod
>>
>>
>> </pre>
>> </blockquote>
>> <pre wrap="">
>>
>> </pre>
>> </blockquote>
>> <pre wrap="">
>><!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
>><html>
>><head>
>> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type">
>></head>
>><body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
>>hey,<br>
>>is this stuff superior to AVG?<br>
>>j<br>
>><br>
>>TCB wrote:
>><blockquote cite="mid44737517$1@linux" type="cite">
>> <pre wrap="">Best way to deal with viruses and network attacks? Install
>> </pre>
>> </blockquote>
>> <pre wrap=""><!---->Ubuntu on
>> </pre>
>> <blockquote type="cite">
>> <pre wrap="">it. BY
>>FAR the best option, though you will have to jump through some hoops for
>>some kinds of media playback.
>>
>>If you insist on paying for an inferior Microsoft operating sytem, as an
>>alternative to Norton I suggest AntiVir or Clamwin. AntiVir is free as in
>>beer, Clamwin free as in beer and free as in speech (it's GPL'd). The
>>downside
>>is that Clamwin doesn't include a real time scanner--you have to tell it
>>to scan something. I think the XP firewall is pretty decent, I use it on
>>my machines but I also have my own firewall built into my home router. I
>>think Zonealarm mostly just scares people.
>>
>>But try Ubuntu, after a little bit of kicking around you'll be thrilled
>> </pre>
>> </blockquote>
>> <pre wrap=""><!---->you
>> </pre>
>> <blockquote type="cite">
>> <pre wrap="">did.
>>
>>TCB
>>
>>"Rod Lincoln" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=<a
>>class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
>>href="mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com"</a>><a
>>class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
>>href="mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com"><rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com></a></a>
>>wrote:
>> </pre>
>> <blockquote type="cite">
>> <pre wrap="">Here's the deal. I've been running Norton Systemworks 2002
>> </pre>
>> </blockquote>
>> <pre wrap=""><!---->on my internet
>> </pre>
>> <blockquote type="cite">
>> <pre wrap="">comp, renewing the antivirus subscription every year. My
> subscription
>>ran
>>out yesterday and upon trying to renew it, I was informed it was no longer
>>supported, and I had to upgrade to whatever 2006. Since I've read some of
>>you are down on Norton, I thought I'd ask for opinions on what to switch
>>to. Sooooo....what do you guys like?
>>
>>I don't use the norton firewall. I use the free Zone Alarm one.
>>I kind of like the system tune up thing that Norton did. I don't think
>>I've
>>had a crash...ever, on this comp.
>>Rod
>> </pre>
>> </blockquote>
>> <pre wrap=""><!---->
>> </pre>
>></blockquote>
>></body>
>></html>
>>
>> </pre>
>> </blockquote>
>> <pre wrap=""><!---->
>> </pre>
>></blockquote>
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yeah man.. the kicks were in real strange places. I apprecaite the =
caliber of skill though I would not have put the same notes in those =
places.=20
AA
"jef knight" <thestudio@allknightmusic.com> wrote in message =
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I think that was what actually made the song win, in part, =
unfortunately. Around here when we hear a band trying to be so =
commercial that their music is parodying itself we call it "toy =
music"...fine for kids but don't take it on the Autobahn....
j
Don Nafe wrote:=20
Maybe it's just me but does anyone else thing the whole groove i.e. what =
the=20
drummer is playing, is all wrong for that song
death metal meets 80's hair band...doesn't work for me
Don
"DC" <dc@shreddersinhell.org> wrote in message news:4473679f$1@linux...
Yeow!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DnjDtlnNkjko&search=3Ddr agonforce=20
=20
=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>yeah man.. the kicks were in real =
strange places. I=20
apprecaite the caliber of skill though I would not have put the same =
notes in=20
those places. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>AA</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV>"jef knight" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:thestudio@allknightmusic.com">thestudio@allknightmusic.com=
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href=3D"news:4475d20e$1@linux">news:4475d20e$1@linux</A>...</DIV>I =
think that=20
was what actually made the song win, in part, unfortunately. Around =
here when=20
we hear a band trying to be so commercial that their music is =
parodying itself=20
we call it "toy music"...fine for kids but don't take it on the=20
Autobahn....<BR>j<BR><BR>Don Nafe wrote:=20
<BLOCKQUOTE cite=3Dmid4474513e$1@linux type=3D"cite"><PRE =
wrap=3D"">Maybe it's just me but does anyone else thing the whole groove =
i.e. what the=20
drummer is playing, is all wrong for that song
death metal meets 80's hair band...doesn't work for me
Don
"DC" <A class=3Dmoz-txt-link-rfc2396E =
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<BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite"><PRE wrap=3D"">Yeow!
<A class=3Dmoz-txt-link-freetext =
href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DnjDtlnNkjko&search=3Ddragonf=
orce">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DnjDtlnNkjko&search=3Ddragonfor=
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DJ,
Anything crazy happen when you installed it?
T.
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message =
news:44767230@linux...
I'm using 4.2 with no problem
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
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Hey guys & gal,
I am ready to update and wondered if I'll lose presets or =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>DJ,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Anything crazy happen when you =
installed=20
it?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>T.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"DJ" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net">animix_spam-this-ahole=
_@animas.net</A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
href=3D"news:44767230@linux">news:44767230@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm using 4.2 with no =
problem</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hey guys & gal,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am ready to update and wondered =
if I'll lose=20
presets or functionality.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
spam, and=20
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Nope
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:44768792@linux...
DJ,
Anything crazy happen when you installed it?
T.
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message =
news:44767230@linux...
I'm using 4.2 with no problem
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:4476622b$1@linux...
Hey guys & gal,
I am ready to update and wondered if I'll lose presets or =
functionality.
Tom
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Nope</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
in message=20
<A href=3D"news:44768792@linux">news:44768792@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>DJ,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Anything crazy happen when you =
installed=20
it?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>T.</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
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<DIV>"DJ" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net">animix_spam-this-ahole=
_@animas.net</A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
href=3D"news:44767230@linux">news:44767230@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm using 4.2 with no =
problem</FONT></DIV>
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href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote in=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hey guys & gal,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am ready to update and wondered =
if I'll=20
lose presets or functionality.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
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Excellent. I finally purchased the Cambridge and the Pultec Pro.
Can't wait to use them on some mixes I'm doing these days.
What do you like using the Pultec Pro on? I love the EQP-1a
on bass, kick and a tom or two from time to time. I question
the crazy midrange that this Pro unit will offer. E. guitar perhaps?
Sent you a tidbit.
Tom
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Nope
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
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DJ,
Anything crazy happen when you installed it?
T.
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message =
news:44767230@linux...
I'm using 4.2 with no problem
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:4476622b$1@linux...
Hey guys & gal,
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Tom
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Excellent. I finally purchased =
the Cambridge=20
and the Pultec Pro.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Can't wait to use them on some mixes =
I'm doing=20
these days.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What do you like using the Pultec Pro =
on? I=20
love the EQP-1a</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>on bass, kick and a tom or two from =
time to=20
time. I question</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the crazy midrange that this Pro unit =
will offer.=20
E. guitar perhaps?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sent you a tidbit.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"DJ" <<A=20
=
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wrote in message <A=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Nope</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote in=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>DJ,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Anything crazy happen when you =
installed=20
it?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>T.</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
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<DIV>"DJ" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net">animix_spam-this-ahole=
_@animas.net</A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
href=3D"news:44767230@linux">news:44767230@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm using 4.2 with no =
problem</FONT></DIV>
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href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:4476622b$1@linux">news:4476622b$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hey guys & =
gal,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am ready to update and =
wondered if I'll=20
lose presets or functionality.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
spam, and=20
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Hmmmmm.............I use the Pultec Pro on whatever I want to sweeten =
andon kick. It's hard to make it sound ugly. Cambridge on bass.........a =
lot. I'll likely be snagging that Neve. I've been hoping for something =
special out of those guys for a while. I decided to forego the Roland =
plugins.the Neve will be useful for me.
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:447691d0@linux...
Excellent. I finally purchased the Cambridge and the Pultec Pro.
Can't wait to use them on some mixes I'm doing these days.
What do you like using the Pultec Pro on? I love the EQP-1a
on bass, kick and a tom or two from time to time. I question
the crazy midrange that this Pro unit will offer. E. guitar perhaps?
Sent you a tidbit.
Tom
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message =
news:44768c80@linux...
Nope
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:44768792@linux...
DJ,
Anything crazy happen when you installed it?
T.
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message =
news:44767230@linux...
I'm using 4.2 with no problem
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:4476622b$1@linux...
Hey guys & gal,
I am ready to update and wondered if I'll lose presets or =
functionality.
Tom
I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hmmmmm.............I use the Pultec Pro =
on whatever=20
I want to sweeten andon kick. It's hard to make it sound ugly. Cambridge =
on=20
bass.........a lot. I'll likely be snagging that Neve. I've been hoping =
for=20
something special out of those guys for a while. I decided to forego the =
Roland=20
plugins.the Neve will be useful for me.</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
in message=20
<A href=3D"news:447691d0@linux">news:447691d0@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Excellent. I finally purchased =
the=20
Cambridge and the Pultec Pro.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Can't wait to use them on some mixes =
I'm doing=20
these days.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What do you like using the Pultec Pro =
on? I=20
love the EQP-1a</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>on bass, kick and a tom or two from =
time to=20
time. I question</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the crazy midrange that this Pro unit =
will offer.=20
E. guitar perhaps?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sent you a tidbit.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Nope</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>DJ,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Anything crazy happen when you =
installed=20
it?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>T.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"DJ" <<A=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm using 4.2 with no =
problem</FONT></DIV>
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=
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote in =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hey guys & =
gal,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am ready to update and =
wondered if I'll=20
lose presets or functionality.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to =
fight spam,=20
and you?<BR><A=20
=
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Man, I'm jealous of you guys, doing that realtime UAD-1 drum processing =
stuff with SX/Paris.........!!!
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message =
news:44769328$1@linux...
Hmmmmm.............I use the Pultec Pro on whatever I want to sweeten =
andon kick. It's hard to make it sound ugly. Cambridge on bass.........a =
lot. I'll likely be snagging that Neve. I've been hoping for something =
special out of those guys for a while. I decided to forego the Roland =
plugins.the Neve will be useful for me.
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:447691d0@linux...
Excellent. I finally purchased the Cambridge and the Pultec Pro.
Can't wait to use them on some mixes I'm doing these days.
What do you like using the Pultec Pro on? I love the EQP-1a
on bass, kick and a tom or two from time to time. I question
the crazy midrange that this Pro unit will offer. E. guitar perhaps?
Sent you a tidbit.
Tom
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message =
news:44768c80@linux...
Nope
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:44768792@linux...
DJ,
Anything crazy happen when you installed it?
T.
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message =
news:44767230@linux...
I'm using 4.2 with no problem
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:4476622b$1@linux...
Hey guys & gal,
I am ready to update and wondered if I'll lose presets or =
functionality.
Tom
I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Man, I'm jealous of you guys, doing that realtime =
UAD-1 drum=20
processing stuff with SX/Paris.........!!!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>"DJ" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net">animix_spam-this-ahole=
_@animas.net</A>>=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hmmmmm.............I use the Pultec =
Pro on=20
whatever I want to sweeten andon kick. It's hard to make it sound =
ugly.=20
Cambridge on bass.........a lot. I'll likely be snagging that Neve. =
I've been=20
hoping for something special out of those guys for a while. I decided =
to=20
forego the Roland plugins.the Neve will be useful for me.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote in=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Excellent. I finally =
purchased the=20
Cambridge and the Pultec Pro.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Can't wait to use them on some =
mixes I'm doing=20
these days.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What do you like using the Pultec =
Pro on? =20
I love the EQP-1a</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>on bass, kick and a tom or two from =
time to=20
time. I question</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the crazy midrange that this Pro =
unit will=20
offer. E. guitar perhaps?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sent you a tidbit.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"DJ" <<A=20
=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Nope</FONT></DIV>
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href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote in=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>DJ,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Anything crazy happen when you =
installed=20
it?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>T.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"DJ" <<A=20
=
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_@animas.net</A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm using 4.2 with no=20
problem</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote=20
in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:4476622b$1@linux">news:4476622b$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hey guys & =
gal,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am ready to update and =
wondered if=20
I'll lose presets or functionality.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to =
fight spam,=20
and you?<BR><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
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Tom , your midisport 8x8 is installed in your native rig along with =
Cubase SX rite? And you are doing the realtime processing with UAD-1 in =
your native rig from Paris with full delay compensation rite? Man, I =
might be able to do this with my existing setup.........!!!!
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:44754042@linux...
Major good just occurred for me with all of this MIDI and timecode=20
stuff. Thanks to Rick and Deej and a little fiddlin' and diddlin'
I have SMPTE sending to Cubase from Paris through the
MidiSport 8x8 and easily getting to all hardware and=20
softsynths together. This is a major hurdle. Now I don't
have to spring for the RME card until I spring for a super
duper Cubase/softsynth rig in the not too distant future.
The next hurdle is the sysex dilemma that the Motu was not
participating with. We shall see if the MidiSport is up to=20
the task. I read that Cubase is finicky with sysex too.
I hope Steinberg isn't the culprit. The Motu software was as
flakey as it gets though.
Thanks guys!
Tom
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message =
news:44752b39@linux...
It never ends.
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:4475210b@linux...
Thanks for the call Deej. Thanks to you I know what I have to do =
now.
Spend more money.
Ha!
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message =
news:44750590@linux...
Tom, answers below:
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:44750054$1@linux...
Well I just read that the Cubase plugin is a SMPTE generator =
not a
reader. From what I can tell ADAT sync (from Paris using XP?)
or MTC are my only options.
I figured I'd end up with the RME HDSP 5692 card in the end.
Resistance is futile
Will Paris using XP be able to send ADAT sync to this card =
successfully?
Yes. always
I understand the Paris ADAT sync using XP doesn't work with an =
ADAT tape machine
but will it work with the RME this way?
Yes. It will work. I've personally done it with Paris on XP.=20
If so then I guess I have to buy that RME card now. Are there =
any other cards that=20
are better for this application?=20
Do you really need 24 ADAT I/O? The HDSP 9632 should work well =
for this. Also the HDSP PCI with a Multiface (v1) or Digiface breakout =
box will work. I have synced the Multiface (v1) to Paris with no =
problems. Multiface v2 doesn't have ADAT input so avoid that one.
I do need the MIDI, ADAT and MTC or ADAT sync anyway.
I didn't want to add a MIDI card to my Paris comp if it isn't =
necessary.
I am using the GenX WC now too.
If you decide on an HDSP 9632 and will need to use it as a =
standalone (not synced to Paris ADAT), you will need to buy the WC =
daughtercard for it.
Thanks,
Tom
Be usre that any RME interface you buy has the *HDSP* =
designation.....not the "Digi" designation. The "Digi" series is older =
and does not sync reliably to Paris ADAT.
Good luck,
Deej
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:4474ed25@linux...
I think there's some kind of plugin that needs to be added =
that
may not be stock with the program. I want to send SMPTE =
from
Paris to Cubase so they can lock.
Anyone here familiar with the procedure? The Steinberg =
forum isn't letting me
search but I think I read the answer there at one time in =
the past.
As always thanks for your help.
Tom
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Tom , your midisport 8x8 is installed in =
your native rig=20
along with Cubase SX rite? And you are doing the realtime =
processing with=20
UAD-1 in your native rig from Paris with full delay compensation rite? =
Man, I=20
might be able to do this with my existing setup.........!!!!</FONT><FONT =
size=3D2></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote in =
message=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Major good just occurred for me with =
all of this=20
MIDI and timecode </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>stuff. </FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>Thanks to Rick and Deej and a little fiddlin' and =
diddlin'</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have SMPTE sending to Cubase from =
Paris through=20
the</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>MidiSport 8x8 and easily getting to =
all hardware=20
and </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>softsynths together. This is a =
major=20
hurdle. Now I don't</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>have to spring for the RME card until =
I spring=20
for a super</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>duper Cubase/softsynth rig in the not =
too distant=20
future.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The next hurdle is the sysex dilemma =
that the=20
Motu was not</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>participating with. We shall =
see if the=20
MidiSport is up to </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the task. I read that Cubase is =
finicky=20
with sysex too.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I hope Steinberg isn't the =
culprit. The=20
Motu software was as</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>flakey as it gets =
though.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks guys!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"DJ" <<A=20
=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It never ends.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote in=20
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href=3D"news:4475210b@linux">news:4475210b@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for the call Deej. =
Thanks to you=20
I know what I have to do now.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Spend more money.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ha!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"DJ" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net">animix_spam-this-ahole=
_@animas.net</A>>=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom, answers=20
below:</FONT></DIV></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote in =
message <A=20
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href=3D"news:44750054$1@linux">news:44750054$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Well I just read that the =
Cubase plugin=20
is a SMPTE generator not a</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>reader. From what I can =
tell ADAT=20
sync (from Paris using XP?)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>or MTC are my only =
options.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I figured I'd end up with the =
RME HDSP=20
5692 card in the end.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><EM><STRONG>Resistance is=20
futile</STRONG></EM></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Will Paris using XP be able =
to send ADAT=20
sync to this card successfully?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG><EM>Yes.=20
always</EM></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></EM></STRONG> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I understand the Paris ADAT =
sync using XP=20
doesn't work with an ADAT tape machine</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>but will it work with the RME =
this=20
way?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG><EM>Yes. It will =
work. I've=20
personally done it with Paris on XP. =
</EM></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If so then I guess I have to =
buy that RME=20
card now. Are there any other cards that </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>are better for this=20
application? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG><EM>Do you really =
need 24 ADAT=20
I/O? The HDSP 9632 should work well for this. Also the HDSP =
PCI with a=20
Multiface (v1) or Digiface breakout box will work. I have =
synced=20
the Multiface (v1) to Paris with no problems. Multiface =
v2=20
doesn't have ADAT input so avoid that =
one.</EM></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I do need the MIDI, ADAT and =
MTC or ADAT=20
sync anyway.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I didn't want to add a MIDI =
card to my=20
Paris comp if it isn't necessary.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am using the GenX WC now=20
too.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG><EM>If you decide on =
an=20
HDSP 9632 and will need to use it as a standalone (not =
synced to=20
Paris ADAT), you will need to buy the WC daughtercard for=20
it.</EM></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG><EM>Be usre that any =
RME=20
interface you buy has the *HDSP* designation.....not the =
"Digi"=20
designation. The "Digi" series is older and does not sync =
reliably to=20
Paris ADAT.</EM></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG><EM>Good=20
luck,</EM></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2><STRONG><EM></EM></STRONG></FONT> </DIV >
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2><STRONG><EM>Deej</EM></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote=20
in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:4474ed25@linux">news:4474ed25@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think there's some kind =
of plugin=20
that needs to be added that</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>may not be stock with the=20
program. I want to send SMPTE from</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Paris to Cubase so they can =
lock.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Anyone here familiar with =
the=20
procedure? The Steinberg forum isn't letting =
me</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>search but I think I read =
the answer=20
there at one time in the past.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As always thanks for your=20
help.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to =
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------=_NextPart_000_0062_01C680A9.A26F7680--Man, that's Trogdor...in real life. chugachugachuga...weedlyweedlyweedly......AND
THE DRAGON COMES IN THE NIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT!
rod
no disrespect meant....I do appreciate the skill level, but that's a stinkin
lot of notes.
jef knight <thestudio@allknightmusic.com> wrote:
>
>I think that was what actually made the song win, in part,
>unfortunately. Around here when we hear a band trying to be so
>commercial that their music is parodying itself we call it "toy
>music"...fine for kids but don't take it on the Autobahn....
>j
>
>Don Nafe wrote:
>
>>Maybe it's just me but does anyone else thing the whole groove i.e. what
the
>>drummer is playing, is all wrong for that song
>>
>>death metal meets 80's hair band...doesn't work for me
>>
>>Don
>>
>>
>>"DC" <dc@shreddersinhell.org> wrote in message news:4473679f$1@linux...
>>
>>
>>>Yeow!
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njDtlnNkjko&search=dragon force
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
><!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
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><head>
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>I think that was what actually made the song win, in part,
>unfortunately. Around here when we hear a band trying to be so
>commercial that their music is parodying itself we call it "toy
>music"...fine for kids but don't take it on the Autobahn....<br>
>j<br>
><br>
>Don Nafe wrote:
><blockquote cite="mid4474513e$1@linux" type="cite">
> <pre wrap="">Maybe it's just me but does anyone else thing the whole groove
i.e. what
>the
>drummer is playing, is all wrong for that song
>
>death metal meets 80's hair band...doesn't work for me
>
>Don
>
>
>"DC" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dc@shreddersinhell.org"><dc@shreddersinhell.org></a>
>wrote in message <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="news:4473679f$1@linux">news:4473679f$1@linux</a>...
> </pre>
> <blockquote type="cite">
> <pre wrap="">Yeow!
>
><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href=" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njDtlnNkjko&search=dragon force"> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njDtlnNkjko&search=dragon force</a>
>
> </pre>
> </blockquote>
> <pre wrap=""><!---->
>
> </pre>
></blockquote>
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>We use Symantec corporate where I work. It's not nearly as invasive as the
consumer versions. Remember I'm a professional geek, so for me control is
a _huge_ part of what I want from my computing environment, and consumer
Norton does spread itself all over the place. It inspects web pages viewed,
tries to scan network drives (big no no in a corporate environment), and
if you watch the taks manager it's always muddling around doing something.
It's also awfully chatty with the remote Symantec servers, which is understandable
(virus definition updates) but the precise thing I _would_ like to know about
is when a machine on my network is talking to another machine on the web.
Anti-virus software also creates its own single point of failure in the event
that the antivirus software has a problem. As in
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1967941,00.asp
200 million computers running Norton and they may ahve left a huge security
hole in their own software. Monocultures are bad for software just like they're
bad for nature.
In my experience the free tools are at least as good as the pay tools. They
also offer a little security by obscurity improvement because they aren't
as common as Norton. I still say, though, that good computing practices +
GNU\Linux is the best way to avoid this stuff.
TCB
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>I'm curious, what do you mean by "Raped" your system. I've never experienced
>what other people are saying about Norton. That being said, I'm not trying
>to defend it either. If there's something better, I would like to be using
>it.
>Rod
>jef knight <thestudio@allknightmusic.com> wrote:
>>
>>thanks. I agree about Norton. It's raped my system before, then I found
>
>>a little app that finds all the Norton entries and files and gets rid of
>
>>them, which sure saved some head aches.
>>j
>>
>>TCB wrote:
>>
>>>AVG is roughly on par with AntiVir, and is a similar licensing scheme.
>They
>>>have a free (as in beer) version and a pay version. Clamwin is actually
>free
>>>(as in libre or speech) software, source code and all. I'd say all three
>>>work at least as well as the pay software and I'd take any one over Norton.
>>>
>>>
>>>TCB
>>>
>>>jef knight <thestudio@allknightmusic.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>hey,
>>>>is this stuff superior to AVG?
>>>>j
>>>>
>>>>TCB wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Best way to deal with viruses and network attacks? Install Ubuntu on
>it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>BY
>>>
>>>
>>>>>FAR the best option, though you will have to jump through some hoops
>for
>>>>>some kinds of media playback.
>>>>>
>>>>>If you insist on paying for an inferior Microsoft operating sytem, as
>an
>>>>>alternative to Norton I suggest AntiVir or Clamwin. AntiVir is free
as
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>in
>>>
>>>
>>>>>beer, Clamwin free as in beer and free as in speech (it's GPL'd). The
>downside
>>>>>is that Clamwin doesn't include a real time scanner--you have to tell
>it
>>>>>to scan something. I think the XP firewall is pretty decent, I use it
>on
>>>>>my machines but I also have my own firewall built into my home router.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>I
>>>
>>>
>>>>>think Zonealarm mostly just scares people.
>>>>>
>>>>>But try Ubuntu, after a little bit of kicking around you'll be thrilled
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>you
>>>
>>>
>>>>>did.
>>>>>
>>>>>TCB
>>>>>
>>>>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Here's the deal. I've been running Norton Systemworks 2002 on my internet
>>>>>>comp, renewing the antivirus subscription every year. My subscription
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>ran
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>out yesterday and upon trying to renew it, I was informed it was no
>longer
>>>>>>supported, and I had to upgrade to whatever 2006. Since I've read some
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>of
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>you are down on Norton, I thought I'd ask for opinions on what to switch
>>>>>>to. Sooooo....what do you guys like?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I don't use the norton firewall. I use the free Zone Alarm one.
>>>>>>I kind of like the system tune up thing that Norton did. I don't think
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>I've
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>had a crash...ever, on this comp.
>>>>>>Rod
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>><!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
>>>><html>
>>>><head>
>>>> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type">
>>>></head>
>>>><body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
>>>>hey,<br>
>>>>is this stuff superior to AVG?<br>
>>>>j<br>
>>>><br>
>>>>TCB wrote:
>>>><blockquote cite="mid44737517$1@linux" type="cite">
>>>> <pre wrap="">Best way to deal with viruses and network attacks? Install
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Ubuntu on
>>>
>>>
>>>>it. BY
>>>>FAR the best option, though you will have to jump through some hoops
for
>>>>some kinds of media playback.
>>>>
>>>>If you insist on paying for an inferior Microsoft operating sytem, as
>an
>>>>alternative to Norton I suggest AntiVir or Clamwin. AntiVir is free as
>in
>>>>beer, Clamwin free as in beer and free as in speech (it's GPL'd). The
>downside
>>>>is that Clamwin doesn't include a real time scanner--you have to tell
>it
>>>>to scan something. I think the XP firewall is pretty decent, I use it
>on
>>>>my machines but I also have my own firewall built into my home router.
>I
>>>>think Zonealarm mostly just scares people.
>>>>
>>>>But try Ubuntu, after a little bit of kicking around you'll be thrilled
>>>>
>>>>
>>>you
>>>
>>>
>>>>did.
>>>>
>>>>TCB
>>>>
>>>>"Rod Lincoln" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com"><rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com></a>
>>>>wrote:
>>>> </pre>
>>>> <blockquote type="cite">
>>>> <pre wrap="">Here's the deal. I've been running Norton Systemworks
>2002
>>>>
>>>>
>>>on my internet
>>>
>>>
>>>>comp, renewing the antivirus subscription every year. My subscription
>ran
>>>>out yesterday and upon trying to renew it, I was informed it was no longer
>>>>supported, and I had to upgrade to whatever 2006. Since I've read some
>of
>>>>you are down on Norton, I thought I'd ask for opinions on what to switch
>>>>to. Sooooo....what do you guys like?
>>>>
>>>>I don't use the norton firewall. I use the free Zone Alarm one.
>>>>I kind of like the system tune up thing that Norton did. I don't think
>I've
>>>>had a crash...ever, on this comp.
>>>>Rod
>>>> </pre>
>>>> </blockquote>
>>>> <pre wrap=""><!---->
>>>> </pre>
>>>></blockquote>
>>>></body>
>>>></html>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>><!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
>><html>
>><head>
>> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type">
>> <title></title>
>></head>
>><body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
>>thanks. I agree about Norton. It's raped my system before, then I found
>>a little app that finds all the Norton entries and files and gets rid
>>of them, which sure saved some head aches.<br>
>>j<br>
>><br>
>>TCB wrote:
>><blockquote cite="mid4474552d$1@linux" type="cite">
>> <pre wrap="">AVG is roughly on par with AntiVir, and is a similar licensing
>scheme.
>>They
>>have a free (as in beer) version and a pay version. Clamwin is actually
>free
>>(as in libre or speech) software, source code and all. I'd say all three
>>work at least as well as the pay software and I'd take any one over Norton.
>>
>>
>>TCB
>>
>>jef knight <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:thestudio@allknightmusic.com"><thestudio@allknightmusic.com></a>
>>wrote:
>> </pre>
>> <blockquote type="cite">
>> <pre wrap="">hey,
>>is this stuff superior to AVG?
>>j
>>
>>TCB wrote:
>>
>> </pre>
>> <blockquote type="cite">
>> <pre wrap="">Best way to deal with viruses and network attacks? Install
>Ubuntu
>>on it.
>> </pre>
>> </blockquote>
>> </blockquote>
>> <pre wrap=""><!---->BY
>> </pre>
>> <blockquote type="cite">
>> <blockquote type="cite">
>> <pre wrap="">FAR the best option, though you will have to jump through
>some hoops
>>for
>>some kinds of media playback.
>>
>>If you insist on paying for an inferior Microsoft operating sytem, as an
>>alternative to Norton I suggest AntiVir or Clamwin. AntiVir is free as
>> </pre>
>> </blockquote>
>> </blockquote>
>> <pre wrap=""><!---->in
>> </pre>
>> <blockquote type="cite">
>> <blockquote type="cite">
>> <pre wrap="">beer, Clamwin free as in beer and free as in speech
(it's
>GPL'd).
>>The downside
>>is that Clamwin doesn't include a real time scanner--you have to tell it
>>to scan something. I think the XP firewall is pretty decent, I use it on
>>my machines but I also have my own firewall built into my home router.
>> </pre>
>> </blockquote>
>> </blockquote>
>> <pre wrap=""><!---->I
>> </pre>
>> <blockquote type="cite">
>> <blockquote type="cite">
>> <pre wrap="">think Zonealarm mostly just scares people.
>>
>>But try Ubuntu, after a little bit of kicking around you'll be thrilled
>> </pre>
>> </blockquote>
>> </blockquote>
>> <pre wrap=""><!---->you
>> </pre>
>> <blockquote type="cite">
>> <blockquote type="cite">
>> <pre wrap="">did.
>>
>>TCB
>>
>>"Rod Lincoln" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com"><rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com></a>
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>> </pre>
>> <blockquote type="cite">
>> <pre wrap="">Here's the deal. I've been running Norton Systemworks
>2002 on my
>>internet
>>comp, renewing the antivirus subscription every year. My subscription
>> </pre>
>> </blockquote>
>> </blockquote>
>> </blockquote>
>> <pre wrap=""><!---->ran
>> </pre>
>> <blockquote type="cite">
>> <blockquote type="cite">
>> <blockquote type="cite">
>> <pre wrap="">out yesterday and upon trying to renew it, I was informed
>it was
>>no longer
>>supported, and I had to upgrade to whatever 2006. Since I've read some
>> </pre>
>> </blockquote>
>> </blockquote>
>> </blockquote>
>> <pre wrap=""><!---->of
>> </pre>
>> <blockquote type="cite">
>> <blockquote type="cite">
>> <blockquote type="cite">
>> <pre wrap="">you are down on Norton, I thought I'd ask for opinions
>on what
>>to switch
>>to. Sooooo....what do you guys like?
>>
>>I don't use the norton firewall. I use the free Zone Alarm one.
>>I kind of like the system tune up thing that Norton did. I don't think
>> </pre>
>> </blockquote>
>> </blockquote>
>> </blockquote>
>> <pre wrap=""><!---->I've
>> </pre>
>> <blockquote type="cite">
>> <blockquote type="cite">
>> <blockquote type="cite">
>> <pre wrap="">had a crash...ever, on this comp.
>>Rod
>>
>>
>> </pre>
>> </blockquote>
>> <pre wrap="">
>>
>> </pre>
>> </blockquote>
>> <pre wrap="">
>><!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
>><html>
>><head>
>> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type">
>></head>
>><body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
>>hey,<br>
>>is this stuff superior to AVG?<br>
>>j<br>
>><br>
>>TCB wrote:
>><blockquote cite="mid44737517$1@linux" type="cite">
>> <pre wrap="">Best way to deal with viruses and network attacks? Install
>> </pre>
>> </blockquote>
>> <pre wrap=""><!---->Ubuntu on
>> </pre>
>> <blockquote type="cite">
>> <pre wrap="">it. BY
>>FAR the best option, though you will have to jump through some hoops for
>>some kinds of media playback.
>>
>>If you insist on paying for an inferior Microsoft operating sytem, as an
>>alternative to Norton I suggest AntiVir or Clamwin. AntiVir is free as
in
>>beer, Clamwin free as in beer and free as in speech (it's GPL'd). The downside
>>is that Clamwin doesn't include a real time scanner--you have to tell it
>>to scan something. I think the XP firewall is pretty decent, I use it on
>>my machines but I also have my own firewall built into my home router.
I
>>think Zonealarm mostly just scares people.
>>
>>But try Ubuntu, after a little bit of kicking around you'll be thrilled
>> </pre>
>> </blockquote>
>> <pre wrap=""><!---->you
>> </pre>
>> <blockquote type="cite">
>> <pre wrap="">did.
>>
>>TCB
>>
>>"Rod Lincoln" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
>>href="mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com"</a>><a
>>class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com"><rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com></a></a>
>>wrote:
>> </pre>
>> <blockquote type="cite">
>> <pre wrap="">Here's the deal. I've been running Norton Systemworks 2002
>> </pre>
>> </blockquote>
>> <pre wrap=""><!---->on my internet
>> </pre>
>> <blockquote type="cite">
>> <pre wrap="">comp, renewing the antivirus subscription every year.
My
>subscription
>>ran
>>out yesterday and upon trying to renew it, I was informed it was no longer
>>supported, and I had to upgrade to whatever 2006. Since I've read some
of
>>you are down on Norton, I thought I'd ask for opinions on what to switch
>>to. Sooooo....what do you guys like?
>>
>>I don't use the norton firewall. I use the free Zone Alarm one.
>>I kind of like the system tune up thing that Norton did. I don't think
I've
>>had a crash...ever, on this comp.
>>Rod
>> </pre>
>> </blockquote>
>> <pre wrap=""><!---->
>> </pre>
>></blockquote>
>></body>
>></html>
>>
>> </pre>
>> </
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Rob,
I haven't tried any of that yet. My UAD is in my Paris rig.
I suppose the Cubase plugs and a few other VSTs would be a=20
place to start just to see if it works.
Tom
"Rob Arsenault" <info@studiomanitou.com> wrote in message =
news:4476f69e@linux...
Tom , your midisport 8x8 is installed in your native rig along with =
Cubase SX rite? And you are doing the realtime processing with UAD-1 in =
your native rig from Paris with full delay compensation rite? Man, I =
might be able to do this with my existing setup.........!!!!
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:44754042@linux...
Major good just occurred for me with all of this MIDI and timecode=20
stuff. Thanks to Rick and Deej and a little fiddlin' and diddlin'
I have SMPTE sending to Cubase from Paris through the
MidiSport 8x8 and easily getting to all hardware and=20
softsynths together. This is a major hurdle. Now I don't
have to spring for the RME card until I spring for a super
duper Cubase/softsynth rig in the not too distant future.
The next hurdle is the sysex dilemma that the Motu was not
participating with. We shall see if the MidiSport is up to=20
the task. I read that Cubase is finicky with sysex too.
I hope Steinberg isn't the culprit. The Motu software was as
flakey as it gets though.
Thanks guys!
Tom
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message =
news:44752b39@linux...
It never ends.
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:4475210b@linux...
Thanks for the call Deej. Thanks to you I know what I have to =
do now.
Spend more money.
Ha!
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message =
news:44750590@linux...
Tom, answers below:
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:44750054$1@linux...
Well I just read that the Cubase plugin is a SMPTE generator =
not a
reader. From what I can tell ADAT sync (from Paris using =
XP?)
or MTC are my only options.
I figured I'd end up with the RME HDSP 5692 card in the end.
Resistance is futile
Will Paris using XP be able to send ADAT sync to this card =
successfully?
Yes. always
I understand the Paris ADAT sync using XP doesn't work with =
an ADAT tape machine
but will it work with the RME this way?
Yes. It will work. I've personally done it with Paris on XP. =
If so then I guess I have to buy that RME card now. Are =
there any other cards that=20
are better for this application?=20
Do you really need 24 ADAT I/O? The HDSP 9632 should work =
well for this. Also the HDSP PCI with a Multiface (v1) or Digiface =
breakout box will work. I have synced the Multiface (v1) to Paris with =
no problems. Multiface v2 doesn't have ADAT input so avoid that one.
I do need the MIDI, ADAT and MTC or ADAT sync anyway.
I didn't want to add a MIDI card to my Paris comp if it =
isn't necessary.
I am using the GenX WC now too.
If you decide on an HDSP 9632 and will need to use it as a =
standalone (not synced to Paris ADAT), you will need to buy the WC =
daughtercard for it.
Thanks,
Tom
Be usre that any RME interface you buy has the *HDSP* =
designation.....not the "Digi" designation. The "Digi" series is older =
and does not sync reliably to Paris ADAT.
Good luck,
Deej
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:4474ed25@linux...
I think there's some kind of plugin that needs to be added =
that
may not be stock with the program. I want to send SMPTE =
from
Paris to Cubase so they can lock.
Anyone here familiar with the procedure? The Steinberg =
forum isn't letting me
search but I think I read the answer there at one time in =
the past.
As always thanks for your help.
Tom
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rob,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I haven't tried any of that yet. =
My UAD is in=20
my Paris rig.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I suppose the Cubase plugs and a few =
other VSTs=20
would be a </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>place to start </FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial size=3D2>just=20
to see if it works.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Rob Arsenault" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:info@studiomanitou.com">info@studiomanitou.com</A>> =
wrote in=20
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Tom , your midisport 8x8 is installed in =
your native=20
rig along with Cubase SX rite? And you are doing the realtime =
processing=20
with UAD-1 in your native rig from Paris with full delay compensation =
rite?=20
Man, I might be able to do this with my existing=20
setup.........!!!!</FONT><FONT size=3D2></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
in message=20
<A href=3D"news:44754042@linux">news:44754042@linux</A>...</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Major good just occurred for me =
with all of=20
this MIDI and timecode </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>stuff. </FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>Thanks to Rick and Deej and a little fiddlin' and=20
diddlin'</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have SMPTE sending to Cubase from =
Paris=20
through the</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>MidiSport 8x8 and easily getting to =
all=20
hardware and </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>softsynths together. This is =
a major=20
hurdle. Now I don't</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>have to spring for the RME card =
until I spring=20
for a super</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>duper Cubase/softsynth rig in the =
not too=20
distant future.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The next hurdle is the sysex =
dilemma that the=20
Motu was not</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>participating with. We shall =
see if the=20
MidiSport is up to </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the task. I read that Cubase =
is finicky=20
with sysex too.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I hope Steinberg isn't the =
culprit. The=20
Motu software was as</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>flakey as it gets =
though.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks guys!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"DJ" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net">animix_spam-this-ahole=
_@animas.net</A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It never ends.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for the call Deej. =
Thanks to=20
you I know what I have to do now.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Spend more money.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ha!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"DJ" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net">animix_spam-this-ahole=
_@animas.net</A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom, answers=20
below:</FONT></DIV></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote=20
in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:44750054$1@linux">news:44750054$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Well I just read that the =
Cubase plugin=20
is a SMPTE generator not a</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>reader. From what I =
can tell ADAT=20
sync (from Paris using XP?)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>or MTC are my only=20
options.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I figured I'd end up with =
the RME HDSP=20
5692 card in the end.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><EM><STRONG>Resistance is=20
futile</STRONG></EM></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Will Paris using XP be able =
to send=20
ADAT sync to this card successfully?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG><EM>Yes.=20
always</EM></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></EM></STRONG> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I understand the Paris ADAT =
sync using=20
XP doesn't work with an ADAT tape machine</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>but will it work with the =
RME this=20
way?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG><EM>Yes. It will =
work. I've=20
personally done it with Paris on XP. =
</EM></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If so then I guess I have =
to buy that=20
RME card now. Are there any other cards that =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>are better for this=20
application? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG><EM>Do you really =
need 24 ADAT=20
I/O? The HDSP 9632 should work well for this. Also the HDSP =
PCI with=20
a Multiface (v1) or Digiface breakout box will work. I =
have=20
synced the Multiface (v1) to Paris with no problems. =
Multiface=20
v2 doesn't have ADAT input so avoid that=20
one.</EM></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I do need the MIDI, ADAT =
and MTC or=20
ADAT sync anyway.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I didn't want to add a MIDI =
card to my=20
Paris comp if it isn't necessary.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am using the GenX WC now=20
too.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG><EM>If you decide =
on an=20
HDSP 9632 and will need to use it as a standalone (not =
synced=20
to Paris ADAT), you will need to buy the WC daughtercard for =
it.</EM></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG><EM>Be usre that =
any RME=20
interface you buy has the *HDSP* designation.....not the =
"Digi"=20
designation. The "Digi" series is older and does not sync =
reliably=20
to Paris ADAT.</EM></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG><EM>Good=20
luck,</EM></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2><STRONG><EM></EM></STRONG></FONT> </DIV >
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2><STRONG><EM>Deej</EM></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:4474ed25@linux">news:4474ed25@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think there's some kind =
of plugin=20
that needs to be added that</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>may not be stock with the =
program. I want to send SMPTE from</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Paris to Cubase so they =
can=20
lock.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Anyone here familiar with =
the=20
procedure? The Steinberg forum isn't letting =
me</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>search but I think I read =
the answer=20
there at one time in the past.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As always thanks for your =
help.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to =
fight=20
spam, and you?<BR><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
..html</A> </FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE ></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCK=
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------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C680AB.A0C81D30--Thanks Aaron. I'll check out those options. You use zone alarm at home, don't
you? I think that you turned me on to it, could be wrong though. Anyway,it
seems to do the job for me, but there's obviously some negative sentiment
about it.
Rod
"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>Better, to me, means Grisoft. YMMV. I've been witness to the after effect
of
>specifically written viruses going in and dismantling norton w/o norton
>knowing about it. Norton appears to be running properly / protecting, when
>in fact it ain't. That is the real bad news for the recipient. Think of
it
>this way. There is a reason the big guys get put in the sights of every
>little hacker wanna be. They are dominant, they bring the most 'glory' to
>the little hacker that could. Same reason MS keeps (and believe me, Mac
is
>going to follow on the hit list) getting pants'd... they're the *big guy*
>and a big target brings a lot of crosshairs on it's butt to the party.
>Grisoft, Trend Micro, maybe Panda all fit that big enough to get it done
>right but not so big they have a target painted on their heads.
>
>AA
>
>
>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>news:4475e595$1@linux...
>>
>> I'm curious, what do you mean by "Raped" your system. I've never
>> experienced
>> what other people are saying about Norton. That being said, I'm not trying
>> to defend it either. If there's something better, I would like to be using
>> it.
>> Rod
>> jef knight <thestudio@allknightmusic.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>thanks. I agree about Norton. It's raped my system before, then I found
>>
>>>a little app that finds all the Norton entries and files and gets rid
of
>>
>>>them, which sure saved some head aches.
>>>j
>>>
>>>TCB wrote:
>>>
>>>>AVG is roughly on par with AntiVir, and is a similar licensing scheme.
>> They
>>>>have a free (as in beer) version and a pay version. Clamwin is actually
>> free
>>>>(as in libre or speech) software, source code and all. I'd say all three
>>>>work at least as well as the pay software and I'd take any one over
>>>>Norton.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>TCB
>>>>
>>>>jef knight <thestudio@allknightmusic.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>hey,
>>>>>is this stuff superior to AVG?
>>>>>j
>>>>>
>>>>>TCB wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Best way to deal with viruses and network attacks? Install Ubuntu on
>> it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>BY
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>FAR the best option, though you will have to jump through some hoops
>> for
>>>>>>some kinds of media playback.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If you insist on paying for an inferior Microsoft operating sytem,
as
>> an
>>>>>>alternative to Norton I suggest AntiVir or Clamwin. AntiVir is free
as
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>in
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>beer, Clamwin free as in beer and free as in speech (it's GPL'd). The
>> downside
>>>>>>is that Clamwin doesn't include a real time scanner--you have to tell
>> it
>>>>>>to scan something. I think the XP firewall is pretty decent, I use
it
>> on
>>>>>>my machines but I also have my own firewall built into my home router.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>I
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>think Zonealarm mostly just scares people.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>But try Ubuntu, after a little bit of kicking around you'll be thrilled
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>you
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>did.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>TCB
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Here's the deal. I've been running Norton Systemworks 2002 on my
>>>>>>>internet
>>>>>>>comp, renewing the antivirus subscription every year. My subscription
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>ran
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>out yesterday and upon trying to renew it, I was informed it was no
>> longer
>>>>>>>supported, and I had to upgrade to whatever 2006. Since I've read
some
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>of
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>you are down on Norton, I thought I'd ask for opinions on what to
>>>>>>>switch
>>>>>>>to. Sooooo....what do you guys like?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I don't use the norton firewall. I use the free Zone Alarm one.
>>>>>>>I kind of like the system tune up thing that Norton did. I don't think
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>I've
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>had a crash...ever, on this comp.
>>>>>>>Rod
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>><!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
>>>>><html>
>>>>><head>
>>>>> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type">
>>>>></head>
>>>>><body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
>>>>>hey,<br>
>>>>>is this stuff superior to AVG?<br>
>>>>>j<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>TCB wrote:
>>>>><blockquote cite="mid44737517$1@linux" type="cite">
>>>>> <pre wrap="">Best way to deal with viruses and network attacks? Install
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>Ubuntu on
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>it. BY
>>>>>FAR the best option, though you will have to jump through some hoops
for
>>>>>some kinds of media playback.
>>>>>
>>>>>If you insist on paying for an inferior Microsoft operating sytem, as
>> an
>>>>>alternative to Norton I suggest AntiVir or Clamwin. AntiVir is free
as
>> in
>>>>>beer, Clamwin free as in beer and free as in speech (it's GPL'd). The
>> downside
>>>>>is that Clamwin doesn't include a real time scanner--you have to tell
>> it
>>>>>to scan something. I think the XP firewall is pretty decent, I use it
>> on
>>>>>my machines but I also have my own firewall built into my home router.
>> I
>>>>>think Zonealarm mostly just scares people.
>>>>>
>>>>>But try Ubuntu, after a little bit of kicking around you'll be thrilled
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>you
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>did.
>>>>>
>>>>>TCB
>>>>>
>>>>>"Rod Lincoln" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
>>>>>href="mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com"><rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com></a>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>> </pre>
>>>>> <blockquote type="cite">
>>>>> <pre wrap="">Here's the deal. I've been running Norton Systemworks
>> 2002
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>on my internet
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>comp, renewing the antivirus subscription every year. My subscription
>> ran
>>>>>out yesterday and upon trying to renew it, I was informed it was no
>>>>>longer
>>>>>supported, and I had to upgrade to whatever 2006. Since I've read some
>> of
>>>>>you are down on Norton, I thought I'd ask for opinions on what to switch
>>>>>to. Sooooo....what do you guys like?
>>>>>
>>>>>I don't use the norton firewall. I use the free Zone Alarm one.
>>>>>I kind of like the system tune up thing that Norton did. I don't think
>> I've
>>>>>had a crash...ever, on this comp.
>>>>>Rod
>>>>> </pre>
>>>>> </blockquote>
>>>>> <pre wrap=""><!---->
>>>>> </pre>
>>>>></blockquote>
>>>>></body>
>>>>></html>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>><!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
>>><html>
>>><head>
>>> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type">
>>> <title></title>
>>></head>
>>><body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
>>>thanks. I agree about Norton. It's raped my system before, then I found
>>>a little app that finds all the Norton entries and files and gets rid
>>>of them, which sure saved some head aches.<br>
>>>j<br>
>>><br>
>>>TCB wrote:
>>><blockquote cite="mid4474552d$1@linux" type="cite">
>>> <pre wrap="">AVG is roughly on par with AntiVir, and is a similar
>>> licensing
>> scheme.
>>>They
>>>have a free (as in beer) version and a pay version. Clamwin is actually
>> free
>>>(as in libre or speech) software, source code and all. I'd say all three
>>>work at least as well as the pay software and I'd take any one over
>>>Norton.
>>>
>>>
>>>TCB
>>>
>>>jef knight <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
>>>href="mailto:thestudio@allknightmusic.com"><thestudio@allknightmusic.com></a>
>>>wrote:
>>> </pre>
>>> <blockquote type="cite">
>>> <pre wrap="">hey,
>>>is this stuff superior to AVG?
>>>j
>>>
>>>TCB wrote:
>>>
>>> </pre>
>>> <blockquote type="cite">
>>> <pre wrap="">Best way to deal with viruses and network attacks?
>>> Install
>> Ubuntu
>>>on it.
>>> </pre>
>>> </blockquote>
>>> </blockquote>
>>> <pre wrap=""><!---->BY
>>> </pre>
>>> <blockquote type="cite">
>>> <blockquote type="cite">
>>> <pre wrap="">FAR the best option, though you will have to jump
>>> through
>> some hoops
>>>for
>>>some kinds of media playback.
>>>
>>>If you insist on paying for an inferior Microsoft operating sytem, as
an
>>>alternative to Norton I suggest AntiVir or Clamwin. AntiVir is free as
>>> </pre>
>>> </blockquote>
>>> </blockquote>
>>> <pre wrap=""><!---->in
>>> </pre>
>>> <blockquote type="cite">
>>> <blockquote type="cite">
>>> <pre wrap="">beer, Clamwin free as in beer and free as in speech
>>> (it's
>> GPL'd).
>>>The downside
>>>is that Clamwin doesn't include a real time scanner--you have to tell
it
>>>to scan something. I think the XP firewall is pretty decent, I use it
on
>>>my machines but I also have my own firewall built into my home router.
>>> </pre>
>>> </blockquote>
>>> </blockquote>
>>> <pre wrap=""><!---->I
>>> </pre>
>>> <blockquote type="cite">
>>> <blockquote type="cite">
>>> <pre wrap="">think Zonealarm mostly just scares people.
>>>
>>>But try Ubuntu, after a little bit of kicking around you'll be thrilled
>>> </pre>
>>> </blockquote>
>>> </blockquote>
>>> <pre wrap=""><!---->you
>>> </pre>
>>> <blockquote type="cite">
>>> <blockquote type="cite">
>>> <pre wrap="">did.
>>>
>>>TCB
>>>
>>>"Rod Lincoln" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
>>>href="mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com"><rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com></a>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> </pre>
>>> <blockquote type="cite">
>>> <pre wrap="">Here's the deal. I've been running Norton Systemworks
>> 2002 on my
>>>internet
>>>comp, renewing the antivirus subscription every year. My subscription
>>> </pre>
>>> </blockquote>
>>> </blockquote>
>>> </blockquote>
>>> <pre wrap=""><!---->ran
>>> </pre>
>>> <blockquote type="cite">
>>> <blockquote type="cite">
>>> <blockquote type="cite">
>>> <pre wrap="">out yesterday and upon trying to renew it, I was
>>> informed
>> it was
>>>no longer
>>>supported, and I had to upgrade to whatever 2006. Since I've read some
>>> </pre>
>>> </blockquote>
>>> </blockquote>
>>> </blockquote>
>>> <pre wrap=""><!---->of
>>> </pre>
>>> <blockquote type="cite">
>>> <blockquote type="cite">
>>> <blockquote type="cite">
>>> <pre wrap="">you are down on Norton, I thought I'd ask for
>>> opinions
>> on what
>>>to switch
>>>to. Sooooo....what do you guys like?
>>>
>>>I don't use the norton firewall. I use the free Zone Alarm one.
>>>I kind of like the system tune up thing that Norton did. I don't think
>>> </pre>
>>> </blockquote>
>>> </blockquote>
>>> </blockquote>
>>> <pre wrap=""><!---->I've
>>> </pre>
>>> <blockquote type="cite">
>>> <blockquote type="cite">
>>> <blockquote type="cite">
>>> <pre wrap="">had a crash...ever, on this comp.
>>>Rod
>>>
>>>
>>> </pre>
>>> </blockquote>
>>> <pre wrap="">
>>>
>>> </pre>
>>> </blockquote>
>>> <pre wrap="">
>>><!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
>>><html>
>>><head>
>>> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type">
>>></head>
>>><body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
>>>hey,<br>
>>>is this stuff superior to AVG?<br>
>>>j<br>
>>><br>
>>>TCB wrote:
>>><blockquote cite="mid44737517$1@linux" type="cite">
>>> <pre wrap="">Best way to deal with viruses and network attacks? Install
>>> </pre>
>>> </blockquote>
>>> <pre wrap=""><!---->Ubuntu on
>>> </pre>
>>> <blockquote type="cite">
>>> <pre wrap="">it. BY
>>>FAR the best option, though you will have to jump through some hoops for
>>>some kinds of media playback.
>>>
>>>If you insist on paying for an inferior Microsoft operating sytem, as
an
>>>alternative to Norton I suggest AntiVir or Clamwin. AntiVir is free as
in
>>>beer, Clamwin free as in beer and free as in speech (it's GPL'd). The
>>>downside
>>>is that Clamwin doesn't include a real time scanner--you have to tell
it
>>>to scan something. I think the XP firewall is pretty decent, I use it
on
>>>my machines but I also have my own firewall built into my home router.
I
>>>think Zonealarm mostly just scares people.
>>>
>>>But try Ubuntu, after a little bit of kicking around you'll be thrilled
>>> </pre>
>>> </blockquote>
>>> <pre wrap=""><!---->you
>>> </pre>
>>> <blockquote type="cite">
>>> <pre wrap="">did.
>>>
>>>TCB
>>>
>>>"Rod Lincoln" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=<a
>>>class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
>>>href="mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com"</a>><a
>>>class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
>>>href="mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com"><rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com></a></a>
>>>wrote:
>>> </pre>
>>> <blockquote type="cite">
>>> <pre wrap="">Here's the deal. I've been running Norton Systemworks
2002
>>> </pre>
>>> </blockquote>
>>> <pre wrap=""><!---->on my internet
>>> </pre>
>>> <blockquote type="cite">
>>> <pre wrap="">comp, renewing the antivirus subscription every year.
My
>> subscription
>>>ran
>>>out yesterday and upon trying to renew it, I was informed it was no longer
>>>supported, and I had to upgrade to whatever 2006. Since I've read some
of
>>>you are down on Norton, I thought I'd ask for opinions on what to switch
>>>to. Sooooo....what do you guys like?
>>>
>>>I don't use the norton firewall. I use the free Zone Alarm one.
>>>I kind of like the system tune up thing that Norton did. I don't think
>>>I've
>>>had a crash...ever, on this comp.
>>>Rod
>>> </pre>
>>> </blockquote>
>>> <pre wrap=""><!---->
>>> </pre>
>>></blockquote>
>>></body>
>>></html>
>>>
>>> </pre>
>>> </blockquote>
>>> <pre wrap=""><!---->
>>> </pre>
>>></blockquote>
>>></body>
>>></html>
>>>
>>
>
>
>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>
>Thanks for the clarifacation Thad.
Rod
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>We use Symantec corporate where I work. It's not nearly as invasive as the
>consumer versions. Remember I'm a professional geek, so for me control is
>a _huge_ part of what I want from my computing environment, and consumer
>Norton does spread itself all over the place. It inspects web pages viewed,
>tries to scan network drives (big no no in a corporate environment), and
>if you watch the taks manager it's always muddling around doing something.
>It's also awfully chatty with the remote Symantec servers, which is understandable
>(virus definition updates) but the precise thing I _would_ like to know
about
>is when a machine on my network is talking to another machine on the web.
>
>
>Anti-virus software also creates its own single point of failure in the
event
>that the antivirus software has a problem. As in
>
>http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1967941,00.asp
>
>200 million computers running Norton and they may ahve left a huge security
>hole in their own software. Monocultures are bad for software just like
they're
>bad for nature.
>
>In my experience the free tools are at least as good as the pay tools. They
>also offer a little security by obscurity improvement because they aren't
>as common as Norton. I still say, though, that good computing practices
+
>GNU\Linux is the best way to avoid this stuff.
>
>TCB
>
>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>I'm curious, what do you mean by "Raped" your system. I've never experienced
>>what other people are saying about Norton. That being said, I'm not trying
>>to defend it either. If there's something better, I would like to be using
>>it.
>>Rod
>>jef knight <thestudio@allknightmusic.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>thanks. I agree about Norton. It's raped my system before, then I found
>>
>>>a little app that finds all the Norton entries and files and gets rid
of
>>
>>>them, which sure saved some head aches.
>>>j
>>>
>>>TCB wrote:
>>>
>>>>AVG is roughly on par with AntiVir, and is a similar licensing scheme.
>>They
>>>>have a free (as in beer) version and a pay version. Clamwin is actually
>>free
>>>>(as in libre or speech) software, source code and all. I'd say all three
>>>>work at least as well as the pay software and I'd take any one over Norton.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>TCB
>>>>
>>>>jef knight <thestudio@allknightmusic.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>hey,
>>>>>is this stuff superior to AVG?
>>>>>j
>>>>>
>>>>>TCB wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Best way to deal with viruses and network attacks? Install Ubuntu on
>>it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>BY
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>FAR the best option, though you will have to jump through some hoops
>>for
>>>>>>some kinds of media playback.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If you insist on paying for an inferior Microsoft operating sytem,
as
>>an
>>>>>>alternative to Norton I suggest AntiVir or Clamwin. AntiVir is free
>as
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>in
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>beer, Clamwin free as in beer and free as in speech (it's GPL'd). The
>>downside
>>>>>>is that Clamwin doesn't include a real time scanner--you have to tell
>>it
>>>>>>to scan something. I think the XP firewall is pretty decent, I use
it
>>on
>>>>>>my machines but I also have my own firewall built into my home router.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>I
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>think Zonealarm mostly just scares people.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>But try Ubuntu, after a little bit of kicking around you'll be thrilled
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>you
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>did.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>TCB
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Here's the deal. I've been running Norton Systemworks 2002 on my internet
>>>>>>>comp, renewing the antivirus subscription every year. My subscription
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>ran
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>out yesterday and upon trying to renew it, I was informed it was no
>>longer
>>>>>>>supported, and I had to upgrade to whatever 2006. Since I've read
some
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>of
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>you are down on Norton, I thought I'd ask for opinions on what to
switch
>>>>>>>to. Sooooo....what do you guys like?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I don't use the norton firewall. I use the free Zone Alarm one.
>>>>>>>I kind of like the system tune up thing that Norton did. I don't think
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>I've
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>had a crash...ever, on this comp.
>>>>>>>Rod
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>><!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
>>>>><html>
>>>>><head>
>>>>> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type">
>>>>></head>
>>>>><body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
>>>>>hey,<br>
>>>>>is this stuff superior to AVG?<br>
>>>>>j<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>TCB wrote:
>>>>><blockquote cite="mid44737517$1@linux" type="cite">
>>>>> <pre wrap="">Best way to deal with viruses and network attacks? Install
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>Ubuntu on
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>it. BY
>>>>>FAR the best option, though you will have to jump through some hoops
>for
>>>>>some kinds of media playback.
>>>>>
>>>>>If you insist on paying for an inferior Microsoft operating sytem, as
>>an
>>>>>alternative to Norton I suggest AntiVir or Clamwin. AntiVir is free
as
>>in
>>>>>beer, Clamwin free as in beer and free as in speech (it's GPL'd). The
>>downside
>>>>>is that Clamwin doesn't include a real time scanner--you have to tell
>>it
>>>>>to scan something. I think the XP firewall is pretty decent, I use it
>>on
>>>>>my machines but I also have my own firewall built into my home router.
>>I
>>>>>think Zonealarm mostly just scares people.
>>>>>
>>>>>But try Ubuntu, after a little bit of kicking around you'll be thrilled
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>you
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>did.
>>>>>
>>>>>TCB
>>>>>
>>>>>"Rod Lincoln" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com"><rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com></a>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>> </pre>
>>>>> <blockquote type="cite">
>>>>> <pre wrap="">Here's the deal. I've been running Norton Systemworks
>>2002
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>on my internet
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>comp, renewing the antivirus subscription every year. My subscription
>>ran
>>>>>out yesterday and upon trying to renew it, I was informed it was no
longer
>>>>>supported, and I had to upgrade to whatever 2006. Since I've read some
>>of
>>>>>you are down on Norton, I thought I'd ask for opinions on what to switch
>>>>>to. Sooooo....what do you guys like?
>>>>>
>>>>>I don't use the norton firewall. I use the free Zone Alarm one.
>>>>>I kind of like the system tune up thing that Norton did. I don't think
>>I've
>>>>>had a crash...ever, on this comp.
>>>>>Rod
>>>>> </pre>
>>>>> </blockquote>
>>>>> <pre wrap=""><!---->
>>>>> </pre>
>>>>></blockquote>
>>>>></body>
>>>>></html>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>><!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
>>><html>
>>><head>
>>> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type">
>>> <title></title>
>>></head>
>>><body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
>>>thanks. I agree about Norton. It's raped my system before, then I found
>>>a little app that finds all the Norton entries and files and gets rid
>>>of them, which sure saved some head aches.<br>
>>>j<br>
>>><br>
>>>TCB wrote:
>>><blockquote cite="mid4474552d$1@linux" type="cite">
>>> <pre wrap="">AVG is roughly on par with AntiVir, and is a similar licensing
>>scheme.
>>>They
>>>have a free (as in beer) version and a pay version. Clamwin is actually
>>free
>>>(as in libre or speech) software, source code and all. I'd say all three
>>>work at least as well as the pay software and I'd take any one over Norton.
>>>
>>>
>>>TCB
>>>
>>>jef knight <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:thestudio@allknightmusic.com"><thestudio@allknightmusic.com></a>
>>>wrote:
>>> </pre>
>>> <blockquote type="cite">
>>> <pre wrap="">hey,
>>>is this stuff superior to AVG?
>>>j
>>>
>>>TCB wrote:
>>>
>>> </pre>
>>> <blockquote type="cite">
>>> <pre wrap="">Best way to deal with viruses and network attacks?
Install
>>Ubuntu
>>>on it.
>>> </pre>
>>> </blockquote>
>>> </blockquote>
>>> <pre wrap=""><!---->BY
>>> </pre>
>>> <blockquote type="cite">
>>> <blockquote type="cite">
>>> <pre wrap="">FAR the best option, though you will have to jump through
>>some hoops
>>>for
>>>some kinds of media playback.
>>>
>>>If you insist on paying for an inferior Microsoft operating sytem, as
an
>>>alternative to Norton I suggest AntiVir or Clamwin. AntiVir is free as
>>> </pre>
>>> </blockquote>
>>> </blockquote>
>>> <pre wrap=""><!---->in
>>> </pre>
>>> <blockquote type="cite">
>>> <blockquote type="cite">
>>> <pre wrap="">beer, Clamwin free as in beer and free as in speech
>(it's
>>GPL'd).
>>>The downside
>>>is that Clamwin doesn't include a real time scanner--you have to tell
it
>>>to scan something. I think the XP firewall is pretty decent, I use it
on
>>>my machines but I also have my own firewall built into my home router.
>>> </pre>
>>> </blockquote>
>>> </blockquote>
>>> <pre wrap=""><!---->I
>>> </pre>
>>> <blockquote type="cite">
>>> <blockquote type="cite">
>>> <pre wrap="">think Zonealarm mostly just scares people.
>>>
>>>But try Ubuntu, after a little bit of kicking around you'll be thrilled
>>> </pre>
>>> </blockquote>
>>> </blockquote>
>>> <pre wrap=""><!---->you
>>> </pre>
>>> <blockquote type="cite">
>>> <blockquote type="cite">
>>> <pre wrap="">did.
>>>
>>>TCB
>>>
>>>"Rod Lincoln" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com"><rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com></a>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> </pre>
>>> <blockquote type="cite">
>>> <pre wrap="">Here's the deal. I've been running Norton Systemworks
>>2002 on my
>>>internet
>>>comp, renewing the antivirus subscription every year. My subscription
>>> </pre>
>>> </blockquote>
>>> </blockquote>
>>> </blockquote>
>>> <pre wrap=""><!---->ran
>>> </pre>
>>> <blockquote type="cite">
>>> <blockquote type="cite">
>>> <blockquote type="cite">
>>> <pre wrap="">out yesterday and upon trying to renew it, I was
informed
>>it was
>>>no longer
>>>supported, and I had to upgrade to whatever 2006. Since I've read some
>>> </pre>
>>> </blockquote>
>>> </blockquote>
>>> </blockquote>
>>> <pre wrap=""><!---->of
>>> </pre>
>>> <blockquote type="cite">
>>> <blockquote type="cite">
>>> <blockquote type="cite">
>>> <pre wrap="">you are down on Norton, I thought I'd ask for opinions
>>on what
>>>to switch
>>>to. Sooooo....what do you guys like?
>>>
>>>I don't use the norton firewall. I use the free Zone Alarm one.
>>>I kind of like the system tune up thing that Norton did. I don't think
>>> </pre>
>>> </blockquote>
>>> </blockquote>
>>> </blockquote>
>>> <pre wrap=""><!---->I've
>>> </pre>
>>> <blockquote type="cite">
>>> <blockquote type="cite">
>>> <blockquote type="cite">
>>> <pre wrap="">had a crash...ever, on this comp.
>>>Rod
>>>
>>>
>>> </pre>
>>> </blockquote>
>>> <pre wrap="">
>>>
>>> </pre>
>>> </blockquote>
>>> <pre wrap="">
>>><!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
>>><html>
>>><head>
>>> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type">
>>></head>
>>><body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
>>>hey,<br>
>>>is this stuff superior to AVG?<br>
>>>j<br>
>>><br>
>>>TCB wrote:
>>><blockquote cite="mid44737517$1@linux" type="cite">
>>> <pre wrap="">Best way to deal with viruses and network attacks? Install
>>> </pre>
>>> </blockquote>
>>> <pre wrap=""><!---->Ubuntu on
>>> </pre>
>>> <blockquote type="cite">
>>> <pre wrap="">it. BY
>>>FAR the best option, though you will have to jump through some hoops for
>>>some kinds of media playback.
>>>
>>>If you insist on paying for an inferior Microsoft operating sytem, as
an
>>>alternative to Norton I suggest AntiVir or Clamwin. AntiVir is free as
>in
>>>beer, Clamwin free as in beer and free as in speech (it's GPL'd). The
downside
>>>is that Clamwin doesn't include a real time scanner--you have to tell
it
>>>to scan something. I think the XP firewall is pretty decent, I use it
on
>>>my machines but I also have my own firewall built into my home router.
>I
>>>think Zonealarm mostly just scares people.
>>>
>>>But try Ubuntu, after a little bit of kicking around you'll be thrilled
>>> </pre>
>>> </blockquote>
>>> <pre wrap=""><!---->you
>>> </pre>
>>> <blockquote type="cite">
>>> <pre wrap="">did.
>>>
>>>TCB
>>>
>>>"Rod Lincoln" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
>>>href="mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com"</a>><a
>>>class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com"><rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com></a></a>
>>>wrote:
>>> </pre>
>>> <blockquote type="cite">
>>> <pre wrap="">Here's the deal. I've been running Norton Systemworks
2002
>>> </pre>
>>> </blockquote>
>>> <pre wrap=""><!---->on my internet
>>> </pre>
>>> <blockquote type="cite">
>>> <pre wrap="">comp, renewing the antivirus subscription every year.
>My
>>subscription
>>>ran
>>>out yesterday and upon trying to renew it, I was informed it was no longer
>>>supported, and I had to upgrade to whatever 2006. Since I've read some
>of
>>>you are down on Norton, I thought I'd ask for opinions on what to switch
>>>to. Sooooo....what do you guys like?
>>>
>>>I don't use the norton firewall. I use the free Zone Alarm one.
>>>I kind of like the system tune up thing that Norton did. I don't think
>I've
>>>had a crash...ever, on this comp.
>>>Rod
>>> </pre>
>>> </blockquote>
>>> <pre wrap=""><!---->
>>> </pre>
>>></blockquote>
>>></body>
>>></html>
>>>
>>> </pre>
>>> </blockquote>
>>> <pre wrap=""><!---->
>>> </pre>
>>></blockquote>
>>></body>
>>></html>
>>>
>>
>Hi all,
My peavey vmp-2 fell out of the rack onto its face and busted some switches
and knobs. It also needs to be re-tubed with some high quality replacement
stuff.
Is there anyone out there who can help me?
Thanks
ChuckMaN!!! Sory to hear that Chuck.. Very nice Pre..LAMont
"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>
>Hi all,
>
>My peavey vmp-2 fell out of the rack onto its face and busted some switches
>and knobs. It also needs to be re-tubed with some high quality replacement
>stuff.
>
>Is there anyone out there who can help me?
>
>Thanks
>Chuck http://www.informationweek.com/hardware/showArticle.jhtml?ar ticleID=188101767
WOW!! Look at the thru-put on this baby.. This is going to change things
alot the DAW busines. I fthey can do 32 Gig flash, you know 80 , 120, 200
is right around the corner.I can but my tech and I live in Canada
Don
"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote in message news:4477105a$1@linux...
>
> Hi all,
>
> My peavey vmp-2 fell out of the rack onto its face and busted some
> switches
> and knobs. It also needs to be re-tubed with some high quality
> replacement
> stuff.
>
> Is there anyone out there who can help me?
>
> Thanks
> ChuckA good friend is a terrific tech who knows tube gear. He is in
San Diego. Are you nearby?
You could ship it to him. Let me know and I can give you his number
DC
"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>
>Hi all,
>
>My peavey vmp-2 fell out of the rack onto its face and busted some switches
>and knobs. It also needs to be re-tubed with some high quality replacement
>stuff.
>
>Is there anyone out there who can help me?
>
>Thanks
>Chuckand you can finally play frisbee with a laptop during those...off
hours.
On 27 May 2006 00:35:33 +1000, "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
> http://www.informationweek.com/hardware/showArticle.jhtml?ar ticleID=188101767
>
>WOW!! Look at the thru-put on this baby.. This is going to change things
>alot the DAW busines. I fthey can do 32 Gig flash, you know 80 , 120, 200
>is right around the corner.Maybe Peavey themselves--there is a really good guy there
named Mike Brown--give him a call, he is a really good
friend to the steel guitar community, and gets things done.
You can mention me and the Steel Guitar Forum and he'll
get you to the right place. It's pretty refreshing to deal
with a company with good customer service like they have...
"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>
>Hi all,
>
>My peavey vmp-2 fell out of the rack onto its face and busted some switches
>and knobs. It also needs to be re-tubed with some high quality replacement
>stuff.
>
>Is there anyone out there who can help me?
>
>Thanks
>ChuckFinally I can use my laptop as a fishing lure. It's about time.
"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:247e725e3v18cqdt9bth83tcceq16tgguo@4ax.com...
> and you can finally play frisbee with a laptop during those...off
> hours.
>
> On 27 May 2006 00:35:33 +1000, "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
> >
>
> http://www.informationweek.com/hardware/showArticle.jhtml?ar ticleID=1881017
67
> >
> >WOW!! Look at the thru-put on this baby.. This is going to change things
> >alot the DAW busines. I fthey can do 32 Gig flash, you know 80 , 120, 200
> >is right around the corner.
>John,
Do you have any experience with the Avalon U5 DI for recording bass? Just wondering how it compares to the Ampeg.
Cheers,
TCso tell me old guru of the deep blue...what'll bite on it?
On Fri, 26 May 2006 09:55:48 -0600, "DJ"
<animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>Finally I can use my laptop as a fishing lure. It's about time.
>
>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:247e725e3v18cqdt9bth83tcceq16tgguo@4ax.com...
>> and you can finally play frisbee with a laptop during those...off
>> hours.
>>
>> On 27 May 2006 00:35:33 +1000, "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>
>> >
>>
>> http://www.informationweek.com/hardware/showArticle.jhtml?ar ticleID=1881017
>67
>> >
>> >WOW!! Look at the thru-put on this baby.. This is going to change things
>> >alot the DAW busines. I fthey can do 32 Gig flash, you know 80 , 120, 200
>> >is right around the corner.
>>
>I'm using Norton here along with XSoftspy. Between these two, I'm good. I
wouldn't put it on an audio machine though. Works fine for me on an office
rig, but there is a small performance hit..........to be expected, IMO. The
only problems I've ever had with Norton was getting my head around a few
issues with Norton and networking, so I enlisted a young geek'ster to do it
for me so I could watch. I think I still remember and IIRC, it was
easy.......(now WTF did he do?)
;o)
"W. Mark Wilson" <wmarkwilson@integrity.com> wrote in message
news:44763f38@linux...
> Same here Rod - never.
>
> Dubya
>
> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:4475e595$1@linux...
> >
> > I'm curious, what do you mean by "Raped" your system. I've never
> > experienced
> > what other people are saying about Norton. That being said, I'm not
trying
> > to defend it either. If there's something better, I would like to be
using
> > it.
> > Rod
>
>It was their regular "suite" the user had purchased at Costco. And I'm with
you on Symantec. I currently use NAV Corp Edition 8.1.x I forget it's
there until it notifies me in the manner I told I want notification of a
virus or potential virus.
Dubya
"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
news:4476703c$1@linux...
> Just wondering.. were you using McAfee managed by chance? That thing is a
> giant pile of crap, and you'd be dead on to say you get to configure
> 'nothing' about it. Their A/V I'm ok with, and the firewall I don't like.
> Zone Alarm and AVG have never once failed me on my personal boxes.
> Corporate.. well, that's another thing I have to live in a box on. But
> Norton? Haven't had any kind of luck with it that is good. Nice to hear
> another POV though, I don't feel quite as trodden upon by Symantec :)
> AA
>
> "W. Mark Wilson" <wmarkwilson@integrity.com> wrote in message
> news:44763ee0@linux...
>> This is all just odd to me... reading the great jonesing on McAffee and
>> the negative reference to Norton as "invasive." I've have always found
>> McAffees stuff to be incredibly invasive and Norton (System works in
>> particular) to be very background, make it do what you want and not what
>> you don't. I recently got a call to fix 2 PC's... each had McCaffee and
>> each was healed with the removal of McAffee. The other thing with
>> McAffee versus any other AV/SystemHealth I've seen is the lack of
>> configurability and the absolute BS it throws in your face that you can't
>> turn off. McAffee has exhibited unwanted unwarranted paranoia about every
>> little thing. Disbale it to install a new app and it turns itself back
>> on to tell you that it believes your neighbor's cat may be using a
>> dial-up connection to email Lex Luther's evil twin in an attempt to have
>> your brother-in-law sent back to prison. Ignore that and it tell you that
>> tomorrow, you're gonna have a wreck and kill 2 nuns and 6 baby ducks if
>> you don't upgrade now. Whereas, Norton just does it job, doesn't fill
>> every available space in your browser bars with marketing hype and your
>> OS with flashing lights and sirens.
>>
>> Dubya
>>
>> "tonehouse" <zmcleod@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:447351c4$1@linux...
>>> Hi there Rod...Get rid of ZoneAlarm !!! it is totally useless,and causes
>>> all
>>> sorts of problems.....I also HATE Norton...their software is very
>>> "invasive",and probably mostly useless too....
>>> "john" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44734fb6$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> I have had great success with Mcafee. Go to www.salescircular.com and
>>> pick
>>>> your state and on the bottom pick free after rebate. Often antivirus
>>>> is
>>>> there for free.
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>> "Mark McDermott" <mark@stateofwail.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >Hi Rod,
>>>> >
>>>> >Check out www.bitdefender.com and a program named Spyware Doctor. That
>>> might
>>>> >be all you need. The combo of the two has kept my kids PC free of
>>> spyware,
>>>> >malware, and viruses for about a year now. It was a DISASTER before
>>>> >that.
>>>> >
>>>> >Mark
>>>> >
>>>> >"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>Here's the deal. I've been running Norton Systemworks 2002 on my
>>> internet
>>>> >>comp, renewing the antivirus subscription every year. My subscription
>>> ran
>>>> >>out yesterday and upon trying to renew it, I was informed it was no
>>> longer
>>>> >>supported, and I had to upgrade to whatever 2006. Since I've read
>>>> >>some
>>>> of
>>>> >>you are down on Norton, I thought I'd ask for opinions on what to
>>>> >>switch
>>>> >>to. Sooooo....what do you guys like?
>>>> >>
>>>> >>I don't use the norton firewall. I use the free Zone Alarm one.
>>>> >>I kind of like the system tune up thing that Norton did. I don't
>>>> >>think
>>>> I've
>>>> >>had a crash...ever, on this comp.
>>>> >>Rod
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>I don't but the reviews like the Avalon a lot.
http://www.bgra.net/2004/review.php?id=106&type=preamp
quoting "I can't imitate an SVT with the avalon, but I can get a gorgeous
rich bass sound that reflects what my fingers are doing much much better.
It sounds deep without mud, authoritative and articulate. I play more or
less old school fingerstyle, with flatwounds and a little bit of mute. An
ampeg b15 is my ideal amp. The hi-fi thing should bug me, but with the Avalon
it doesn't."
TC <tc@spammetodeathyoubastards.org> wrote:
>John,
>
>Do you have any experience with the Avalon U5 DI for recording bass? Just
wondering
>how it compares to the Ampeg.
>
>Cheers,
>
>TCNow think about this uncle Rick..............since I don't have one yet, HTF
am I supposed to know what will bite? I've got an old Dell Latitude here and
as soon as I get myself a Samsung with solid state HD's, I'll A/B them on
bass and trout and let everyone know.
"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:h2ee72lrdqdminj3vj84c0is81rg2bi62n@4ax.com...
> so tell me old guru of the deep blue...what'll bite on it?
>
>
>
> On Fri, 26 May 2006 09:55:48 -0600, "DJ"
> <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>
> >Finally I can use my laptop as a fishing lure. It's about time.
> >
> >"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:247e725e3v18cqdt9bth83tcceq16tgguo@4ax.com...
> >> and you can finally play frisbee with a laptop during those...off
> >> hours.
> >>
> >> On 27 May 2006 00:35:33 +1000, "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >>
>
>> http://www.informationweek.com/hardware/showArticle.jhtml?ar ticleID=188101
7
> >67
> >> >
> >> >WOW!! Look at the thru-put on this baby.. This is going to change
things
> >> >alot the DAW busines. I fthey can do 32 Gig flash, you know 80 , 120,
200
> >> >is right around the corner.
> >>
> >
>Great, thanks for the info.
Cheers,
TC
John wrote:
> I don't but the reviews like the Avalon a lot.
> http://www.bgra.net/2004/review.php?id=106&type=preamp
>
> quoting "I can't imitate an SVT with the avalon, but I can get a gorgeous
> rich bass sound that reflects what my fingers are doing much much better.
> It sounds deep without mud, authoritative and articulate. I play more or
> less old school fingerstyle, with flatwounds and a little bit of mute. An
> ampeg b15 is my ideal amp. The hi-fi thing should bug me, but with the Avalon
> it doesn't."
>
>
> TC <tc@spammetodeathyoubastards.org> wrote:
>> John,
>>
>> Do you have any experience with the Avalon U5 DI for recording bass? Just
> wondering
>> how it compares to the Ampeg.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> TC
>Hi Chuck..I've always had good luck with Bob Williams at "Pro-Tech" next to
Chuck Levins on Viers Mill Rd..I also have that same unit (been very
good)..Let me know what happens,I especially would like to know about
possible tube upgrades....Zan
"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote in message news:4477105a$1@linux...
>
> Hi all,
>
> My peavey vmp-2 fell out of the rack onto its face and busted some
switches
> and knobs. It also needs to be re-tubed with some high quality
replacement
> stuff.
>
> Is there anyone out there who can help me?
>
> Thanks
> Chuckgosh...thanks MR. SNOOTYHORSE aren't we a bit on the sensitive side
today. if i wanted my b's removed i would have told sleeping with
fists that "yes that dress does make you look..." haaaaruuuuuuuumph!
On Fri, 26 May 2006 11:19:09 -0600, "DJ"
<animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>Now think about this uncle Rick..............since I don't have one yet, HTF
>am I supposed to know what will bite? I've got an old Dell Latitude here and
>as soon as I get myself a Samsung with solid state HD's, I'll A/B them on
>bass and trout and let everyone know.
>
>
>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:h2ee72lrdqdminj3vj84c0is81rg2bi62n@4ax.com...
>> so tell me old guru of the deep blue...what'll bite on it?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 26 May 2006 09:55:48 -0600, "DJ"
>> <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>
>> >Finally I can use my laptop as a fishing lure. It's about time.
>> >
>> >"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >news:247e725e3v18cqdt9bth83tcceq16tgguo@4ax.com...
>> >> and you can finally play frisbee with a laptop during those...off
>> >> hours.
>> >>
>> >> On 27 May 2006 00:35:33 +1000, "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >>
>>
>>> http://www.informationweek.com/hardware/showArticle.jhtml?ar ticleID=188101
>7
>> >67
>> >> >
>> >> >WOW!! Look at the thru-put on this baby.. This is going to change
>things
>> >> >alot the DAW busines. I fthey can do 32 Gig flash, you know 80 , 120,
>200
>> >> >is right around the corner.
>> >>
>> >
>>
>AND...OJ YEAH...DON'T EEEEEEEEVER ASK MY BESOTTED REDNECK BRAIN TO
THINK...how rude.....................
On Fri, 26 May 2006 11:19:09 -0600, "DJ"
<animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>Now think about this uncle Rick..............since I don't have one yet, HTF
>am I supposed to know what will bite? I've got an old Dell Latitude here and
>as soon as I get myself a Samsung with solid state HD's, I'll A/B them on
>bass and trout and let everyone know.
>
>
>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:h2ee72lrdqdminj3vj84c0is81rg2bi62n@4ax.com...
>> so tell me old guru of the deep blue...what'll bite on it?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 26 May 2006 09:55:48 -0600, "DJ"
>> <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>
>> >Finally I can use my laptop as a fishing lure. It's about time.
>> >
>> >"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >news:247e725e3v18cqdt9bth83tcceq16tgguo@4ax.com...
>> >> and you can finally play frisbee with a laptop during those...off
>> >> hours.
>> >>
>> >> On 27 May 2006 00:35:33 +1000, "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >>
>>
>>> http://www.informationweek.com/hardware/showArticle.jhtml?ar ticleID=188101
>7
>> >67
>> >> >
>> >> >WOW!! Look at the thru-put on this baby.. This is going to change
>things
>> >> >alot the DAW busines. I fthey can do 32 Gig flash, you know 80 , 120,
>200
>> >> >is right around the corner.
>> >>
>> >
>>
>AAAAANd if it weren't, i would have done this in one post. so there.
On Fri, 26 May 2006 11:19:09 -0600, "DJ"
<animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>Now think about this uncle Rick..............since I don't have one yet, HTF
>am I supposed to know what will bite? I've got an old Dell Latitude here and
>as soon as I get myself a Samsung with solid state HD's, I'll A/B them on
>bass and trout and let everyone know.
>
>
>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:h2ee72lrdqdminj3vj84c0is81rg2bi62n@4ax.com...
>> so tell me old guru of the deep blue...what'll bite on it?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 26 May 2006 09:55:48 -0600, "DJ"
>> <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>
>> >Finally I can use my laptop as a fishing lure. It's about time.
>> >
>> >"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >news:247e725e3v18cqdt9bth83tcceq16tgguo@4ax.com...
>> >> and you can finally play frisbee with a laptop during those...off
>> >> hours.
>> >>
>> >> On 27 May 2006 00:35:33 +1000, "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >>
>>
>>> http://www.informationweek.com/hardware/showArticle.jhtml?ar ticleID=188101
>7
>> >67
>> >> >
>> >> >WOW!! Look at the thru-put on this baby.. This is going to change
>things
>> >> >alot the DAW busines. I fthey can do 32 Gig flash, you know 80 , 120,
>200
>> >> >is right around the corner.
>> >>
>> >
>>
>I doubt a laptop would make a good trolling lure, but would lie nicely on
the bottom with no sinker required......catfish anyone?
;o)
"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3uie72t237dn0d9fthvssvc28ogjs86jt3@4ax.com...
> AAAAANd if it weren't, i would have done this in one post. so there.
>
> On Fri, 26 May 2006 11:19:09 -0600, "DJ"
> <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>
> >Now think about this uncle Rick..............since I don't have one yet,
HTF
> >am I supposed to know what will bite? I've got an old Dell Latitude here
and
> >as soon as I get myself a Samsung with solid state HD's, I'll A/B them on
> >bass and trout and let everyone know.
> >
> >
> >"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:h2ee72lrdqdminj3vj84c0is81rg2bi62n@4ax.com...
> >> so tell me old guru of the deep blue...what'll bite on it?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, 26 May 2006 09:55:48 -0600, "DJ"
> >> <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Finally I can use my laptop as a fishing lure. It's about time.
> >> >
> >> >"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:247e725e3v18cqdt9bth83tcceq16tgguo@4ax.com...
> >> >> and you can finally play frisbee with a laptop during those...off
> >> >> hours.
> >> >>
> >> >> On 27 May 2006 00:35:33 +1000, "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net>
wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >>
>
>>> http://www.informationweek.com/hardware/showArticle.jhtml?ar ticleID=18810
1
> >7
> >> >67
> >> >> >
> >> >> >WOW!! Look at the thru-put on this baby.. This is going to change
> >things
> >> >> >alot the DAW busines. I fthey can do 32 Gig flash, you know 80 ,
120,
> >200
> >> >> >is right around the corner.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >
>Will there be transformer options or maybe a tube model for *vintage/warm*
sounding data?
;oP
"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:44771235$1@linux...
>
>
http://www.informationweek.com/hardware/showArticle.jhtml?ar ticleID=18810176
7
>
> WOW!! Look at the thru-put on this baby.. This is going to change things
> alot the DAW busines. I fthey can do 32 Gig flash, you know 80 , 120, 200
> is right around the corner. http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060526/wr_nm/symantec_worm_dc_3 Check this
out Norton "fans"....Not good news for SymantecHey Chuck,
My in House Guy Andrew Bell is awesome :)
As long as parts are available - turnaround
is quick !
Morgan :)
tonehouse wrote:
> Hi Chuck..I've always had good luck with Bob Williams at "Pro-Tech" next to
> Chuck Levins on Viers Mill Rd..I also have that same unit (been very
> good)..Let me know what happens,I especially would like to know about
> possible tube upgrades....Zan
> "chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote in message news:4477105a$1@linux...
>
>>Hi all,
>>
>>My peavey vmp-2 fell out of the rack onto its face and busted some
>
> switches
>
>>and knobs. It also needs to be re-tubed with some high quality
>
> replacement
>
>>stuff.
>>
>>Is there anyone out there who can help me?
>>
>>Thanks
>>Chuck
>
>
>This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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hehehe.........no pain, no gain..............c'mon in.......the water's =
.............uhhhhh........well.....often frustrating but getting finer =
by the minute.
;o)
"Rob Arsenault" <info@studiomanitou.com> wrote in message =
news:4476e909$1@linux...
Man, I'm jealous of you guys, doing that realtime UAD-1 drum =
processing stuff with SX/Paris.........!!!
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message =
news:44769328$1@linux...
Hmmmmm.............I use the Pultec Pro on whatever I want to =
sweeten andon kick. It's hard to make it sound ugly. Cambridge on =
bass.........a lot. I'll likely be snagging that Neve. I've been hoping =
for something special out of those guys for a while. I decided to forego =
the Roland plugins.the Neve will be useful for me.
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:447691d0@linux...
Excellent. I finally purchased the Cambridge and the Pultec Pro.
Can't wait to use them on some mixes I'm doing these days.
What do you like using the Pultec Pro on? I love the EQP-1a
on bass, kick and a tom or two from time to time. I question
the crazy midrange that this Pro unit will offer. E. guitar =
perhaps?
Sent you a tidbit.
Tom
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message =
news:44768c80@linux...
Nope
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:44768792@linux...
DJ,
Anything crazy happen when you installed it?
T.
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message =
news:44767230@linux...
I'm using 4.2 with no problem
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:4476622b$1@linux...
Hey guys & gal,
I am ready to update and wondered if I'll lose presets or =
functionality.
Tom
I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>hehehe.........no pain, no =
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frustrating but=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>;o)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Man, I'm jealous of you guys, doing that realtime =
UAD-1 drum=20
processing stuff with SX/Paris.........!!!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>"DJ" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net">animix_spam-this-ahole=
_@animas.net</A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
href=3D"news:44769328$1@linux">news:44769328$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hmmmmm.............I use the Pultec =
Pro on=20
whatever I want to sweeten andon kick. It's hard to make it sound =
ugly.=20
Cambridge on bass.........a lot. I'll likely be snagging that Neve. =
I've=20
been hoping for something special out of those guys for a while. I =
decided=20
to forego the Roland plugins.the Neve will be useful for =
me.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Excellent. I finally =
purchased the=20
Cambridge and the Pultec Pro.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Can't wait to use them on some =
mixes I'm=20
doing these days.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What do you like using the Pultec =
Pro=20
on? I love the EQP-1a</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>on bass, kick and a tom or two =
from time to=20
time. I question</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the crazy midrange that this Pro =
unit will=20
offer. E. guitar perhaps?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sent you a tidbit.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"DJ" <<A=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Nope</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>DJ,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Anything crazy happen when =
you installed=20
it?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>T.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"DJ" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net">animix_spam-this-ahole=
_@animas.net</A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm using 4.2 with no=20
problem</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hey guys & =
gal,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am ready to update and =
wondered if=20
I'll lose presets or functionality.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to =
fight=20
spam, and you?<BR><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
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------=_NextPart_000_011E_01C680D7.93F579A0--When I was down in Athens they got busted for spraying the crowd with fake
semen out of a giant imitation penis.
Chuck
jef knight <thestudio@allknightmusic.com> wrote:
>
>Hey I never thought of that....lol.. Gwar...those guys were a hoot.
>
>Don Nafe wrote:
>
>>Gwar wannabees
>>
>>dcn
>>
>>
>>"jef knight" <thestudio@allknightmusic.com> wrote in message
>>news:4473a919@linux...
>>
>>
>>>I'm sorry, I take that back.....just having watched a bunch of the other
>>>vid's I can see why they won....what a bunch of tossers....
>>>
>>>jef knight wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>here's the mooks that swept EuroVision.....
>>>>
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWqtOOiH6CY&feature=Views &page=1&t=t&f=b
>>>>< http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWqtOOiH6CY&feature=Views &page=1&t=t&f=b>
>>>>
>>>>sorry for the denigration but if this is "it" then "it" is all over.....
>>>>
>>>>"get my buryin' shovel..." Ned Flanders
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>DC wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Yeow!
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njDtlnNkjko&search=dragon force
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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>Hey I never thought of that....lol.. Gwar...those guys were a hoot.<br>
><br>
>Don Nafe wrote:
><blockquote cite="mid447450b1@linux" type="cite">
> <pre wrap="">Gwar wannabees
>
>dcn
>
>
>"jef knight" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:thestudio@allknightmusic.com"><thestudio@allknightmusic.com></a>
>wrote in message
><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="news:4473a919@linux">news:4473a919@linux</a>...
> </pre>
> <blockquote type="cite">
> <pre wrap="">I'm sorry, I take that back.....just having watched a bunch
of the
>other
>vid's I can see why they won....what a bunch of tossers....
>
>jef knight wrote:
>
> </pre>
> <blockquote type="cite">
> <pre wrap="">here's the mooks that swept EuroVision.....
>
><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href=" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWqtOOiH6CY&feature=Views &page=1&t=t&f=b"> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWqtOOiH6CY&feature=Views &page=1&t=t&f=b</a>
>
><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWqtOOiH6CY&feature=Views &page=1&t=t&f=b">< http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWqtOOiH6CY&feature=Views &page=1&t=t&f=b></a>
>
>sorry for the denigration but if this is "it" then "it" is all over.....
>
>"get my buryin' shovel..." Ned Flanders
>
>
>DC wrote:
>
> </pre>
> <blockquote type="cite">
> <pre wrap="">Yeow!
>
><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href=" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njDtlnNkjko&search=dragon force"> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njDtlnNkjko&search=dragon force</a>
>
> </pre>
> </blockquote>
> </blockquote>
> </blockquote>
> <pre wrap=""><!---->
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>This was vary cool that a real guy won. At least this guy has his own original
songs and has been working on his career for some time. I caught bits and
pieces of the last 5 or 6 contestants, I think they were all good.
Congratulations!
James
Paul Artola <artola@comcast.net> wrote:
>Congrats T! I don't follow the show but just read that your guy won.
>Excellent.
>
>Somehow Paris must have played a small part in his victory, right???
>
>- Paul Artola
> Ellicott City, Maryland
>
>On Wed, 1 Mar 2006 09:13:11 -0600, "T.Rossi"
><t.rossi@NOSPAMearthlink.netNOSPAM> wrote:
>
>>Hi all,
>>
>>Haven't been around here much in the last year or so.
>>Glad to see that the Paris community is still alive and well.
>>
>>Anyway, there's a guy on American Idol this year that I used
>>to work with quite a bit. His name is Taylor Hicks. If you haven't
>>seen it he's the grey haired guy. He's a very soulful singer with not
>>an ounce of pretense. Check out his version of "Georgia on my Mind"
>>at this link. It's a live recording. Don't know who the engineer was.
>>http://taylorhicks2006.com/music.html#
>>
>>He also plays a mean blues harp.
>>
>>peace,
>>T.Rossi
>>
>Speed Wankers!
The second break, there is a bad lip sync on the drummer; ) Second guitar
solo/lead is a bit out of sync too. But hey, there sound fast!
"DC" <dc@shreddersinhell.org> wrote:
>
>Yeow!
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njDtlnNkjko&search=dragon forceUm, yeah, I am starting to want this too,
DJ, for ludites here, can you tell exactly what I need and will a slower
PC work for the UAD stuff?
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>
>
>hehehe.........no pain, no gain..............c'mon in.......the water's
=
>............uhhhhh........well.....often frustrating but getting finer =
>by the minute.
>
>;o)
>
> "Rob Arsenault" <info@studiomanitou.com> wrote in message =
>news:4476e909$1@linux...
> Man, I'm jealous of you guys, doing that realtime UAD-1 drum =
>processing stuff with SX/Paris.........!!!
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message =
>news:44769328$1@linux...
> Hmmmmm.............I use the Pultec Pro on whatever I want to =
>sweeten andon kick. It's hard to make it sound ugly. Cambridge on =
>bass.........a lot. I'll likely be snagging that Neve. I've been hoping
=
>for something special out of those guys for a while. I decided to forego
=
>the Roland plugins.the Neve will be useful for me.
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
>news:447691d0@linux...
> Excellent. I finally purchased the Cambridge and the Pultec Pro.
> Can't wait to use them on some mixes I'm doing these days.
> What do you like using the Pultec Pro on? I love the EQP-1a
> on bass, kick and a tom or two from time to time. I question
> the crazy midrange that this Pro unit will offer. E. guitar =
>perhaps?
>
> Sent you a tidbit.
> Tom
>
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message =
>news:44768c80@linux...
> Nope
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
>news:44768792@linux...
> DJ,
> Anything crazy happen when you installed it?
> T.
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message =
>news:44767230@linux...
> I'm using 4.2 with no problem
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
>news:4476622b$1@linux...
> Hey guys & gal,
> I am ready to update and wondered if I'll lose presets or
=
>functionality.
> Tom
>
>
> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>hehehe.........no pain, no =
>gain..............c'mon=20
>in.......the water's ............uhhhhh........well.....often =
>frustrating but=20
>getting finer by the minute.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>;o)</FONT></DIV>
><DIV> </DIV>
><BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV>"Rob Arsenault" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:info@studiomanitou.com">info@studiomanitou.com</A>> =
>wrote in=20
> message <A =
>href=3D"news:4476e909$1@linux">news:4476e909$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Man, I'm jealous of you guys, doing that realtime
=
>UAD-1 drum=20
> processing stuff with SX/Paris.........!!!</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV>"DJ" <<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net">animix_spam-this-ahole=
>_@animas.net</A>>=20
> wrote in message <A=20
> href=3D"news:44769328$1@linux">news:44769328$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
> style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hmmmmm.............I use the Pultec
=
>Pro on=20
> whatever I want to sweeten andon kick. It's hard to make it sound =
>ugly.=20
> Cambridge on bass.........a lot. I'll likely be snagging that Neve.
=
>I've=20
> been hoping for something special out of those guys for a while. I =
>decided=20
> to forego the Roland plugins.the Neve will be useful for =
>me.</FONT></DIV>
> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
> style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
>wrote in=20
> message <A =
>href=3D"news:447691d0@linux">news:447691d0@linux</A>...</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Excellent. I finally =
>purchased the=20
> Cambridge and the Pultec Pro.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Can't wait to use them on some =
>mixes I'm=20
> doing these days.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What do you like using the Pultec
=
>Pro=20
> on? I love the EQP-1a</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>on bass, kick and a tom or two =
>from time to=20
> time. I question</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the crazy midrange that this Pro
=
>unit will=20
> offer. E. guitar perhaps?</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sent you a tidbit.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
> style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;
=
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV>"DJ" <<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net">animix_spam-this-ahole=
>_@animas.net</A>>=20
> wrote in message <A=20
> href=3D"news:44768c80@linux">news:44768c80@linux</A>...</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Nope</FONT></DIV>
> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
> style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
>5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote in =
>
> message <A =
>href=3D"news:44768792@linux">news:44768792@linux</A>...</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>DJ,</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Anything crazy happen when =
>you installed=20
> it?</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>T.</FONT></DIV>
> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
> style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
>5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV>"DJ" <<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net">animix_spam-this-ahole=
>_@animas.net</A>>=20
> wrote in message <A=20
> =
>href=3D"news:44767230@linux">news:44767230@linux</A>...</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm using 4.2 with no=20
> problem</FONT></DIV>
> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
> style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT:
=
>5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
> wrote in message <A=20
> =
>href=3D"news:4476622b$1@linux">news:4476622b$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hey guys & =
>gal,</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am ready to update and
=
>wondered if=20
> I'll lose presets or functionality.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to
=
>fight=20
> spam, and you?<BR><A=20
> =
>href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
>.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCK=
>QUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE ></BODY></HTML>
>
>I saw this gear for $900. Is it worth it.
1- 888 Digi 8 in 8 out rack
1- 882 digi 8 in 8 out rack
1- digi adat bridge
1- Digi 11 space expansion rack
5- Mix Farm Cards
1- lexicon nuverb
1- waves bundle
1- 18 gig drive
1- 2 gig drive
1- 4 gig drive
1- orb drive with 6 disks
2- digi input cards
1- mac powerpc computer with mouse and keyboard
*all cables included
*all manuals for everthing *plus all install disks for everything
*also included 3 pro tools and one DVD instruction and help booksSmells like NuBus....
David.
Sanbar wrote:
> I saw this gear for $900. Is it worth it.
>
> 1- 888 Digi 8 in 8 out rack
> 1- 882 digi 8 in 8 out rack
> 1- digi adat bridge
> 1- Digi 11 space expansion rack
> 5- Mix Farm Cards
> 1- lexicon nuverb
> 1- waves bundle
> 1- 18 gig drive
> 1- 2 gig drive
> 1- 4 gig drive
> 1- orb drive with 6 disks
> 2- digi input cards
> 1- mac powerpc computer with mouse and keyboard
> *all cables included
> *all manuals for everthing *plus all install disks for everything
> *also included 3 pro tools and one DVD instruction and help books
>
>I'll be glad to tell you exactly what you need if you'll tell me what you
want to achieve with how many tracks.......but a slower computer is going to
limit you in many ways no matter what you want to achieve because even with
UAD-1 cards, you're still processing through a native system and you've got
to either:
1. be able to stream all your tracks directly from the native app to Paris
while being processed in the native app. The higher the track count, the
more CPU cycles the native app wioll use, and despite the hype, the UAD-1
will also cause a CPU hit........just not as much as a *really hungry*
native plugin.
2. ..........or you've got to be able to use the native app as a standalone
processor in order to process the files sent from Paris *through* the native
app and UAD-1 plugin and return them to Paris at 64k (1.5ms) buffers or the
Cubase plugin delay compensation doesn't really work optimally. You might be
able to get away with 128ms, but it can get sloppy and flamming can happen.
For *live* zero latency processing, you're going to need to operate at 1.5ms
latency in your native app.
My advice is to build the most powerful rig you can for this.
For hardware, I would recommend RME HDSP series cards, only because I have
been using them and I know how to configure the system for what I need to
do. I have configured my rig with 2 x HDSP 9652's and one HDSP Multiface
because this combination give me exactly the number of analog and digital
I/O I need to mix while interfaced with my Paris rig and certain digital
processors. Dimitrios' solution of using Pulsar cards might be a more cost
effective and perhaps less CPU intensive solution.
I'm running an AMD 64 4200 x 2 dualcore CPU right now. I don't think it will
be long until I go to a 4800 x 2. We'll see.
Regards,
Deej
"cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote in message
news:44778062$1@linux...
>
>
>
> Um, yeah, I am starting to want this too,
>
> DJ, for ludites here, can you tell exactly what I need and will a slower
> PC work for the UAD stuff?
>
>
>
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >hehehe.........no pain, no gain..............c'mon in.......the water's
> =
> >............uhhhhh........well.....often frustrating but getting finer =
> >by the minute.
> >
> >;o)
> >
> > "Rob Arsenault" <info@studiomanitou.com> wrote in message =
> >news:4476e909$1@linux...
> > Man, I'm jealous of you guys, doing that realtime UAD-1 drum =
> >processing stuff with SX/Paris.........!!!
> >
> > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message =
> >news:44769328$1@linux...
> > Hmmmmm.............I use the Pultec Pro on whatever I want to =
> >sweeten andon kick. It's hard to make it sound ugly. Cambridge on =
> >bass.........a lot. I'll likely be snagging that Neve. I've been hoping
> =
> >for something special out of those guys for a while. I decided to forego
> =
> >the Roland plugins.the Neve will be useful for me.
> > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
> >news:447691d0@linux...
> > Excellent. I finally purchased the Cambridge and the Pultec Pro.
> > Can't wait to use them on some mixes I'm doing these days.
> > What do you like using the Pultec Pro on? I love the EQP-1a
> > on bass, kick and a tom or two from time to time. I question
> > the crazy midrange that this Pro unit will offer. E. guitar =
> >perhaps?
> >
> > Sent you a tidbit.
> > Tom
> >
> >
> > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message =
> >news:44768c80@linux...
> > Nope
> > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
> >news:44768792@linux...
> > DJ,
> > Anything crazy happen when you installed it?
> > T.
> > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message =
> >news:44767230@linux...
> > I'm using 4.2 with no problem
> > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
> >news:4476622b$1@linux...
> > Hey guys & gal,
> > I am ready to update and wondered if I'll lose presets or
> =
> >functionality.
> > Tom
> >
> >
> > I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> > http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
> >
> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> ><HTML><HEAD>
> ><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
> >charset=3Diso-8859-1">
> ><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1106" name=3DGENERATOR>
> ><STYLE></STYLE>
> ></HEAD>
> ><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>hehehe.........no pain, no =
> >gain..............c'mon=20
> >in.......the water's ............uhhhhh........well.....often =
> >frustrating but=20
> >getting finer by the minute.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>;o)</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV> </DIV>
> ><BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
> >style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > <DIV>"Rob Arsenault" <<A=20
> > href=3D"mailto:info@studiomanitou.com">info@studiomanitou.com</A>> =
> >wrote in=20
> > message <A =
> >href=3D"news:4476e909$1@linux">news:4476e909$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Man, I'm jealous of you guys, doing that realtime
> =
> >UAD-1 drum=20
> > processing stuff with SX/Paris.........!!!</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV> </DIV>
> > <DIV>"DJ" <<A=20
> > =
>
>href=3D"mailto:animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net">animix_spam-this-ahole=
> >_@animas.net</A>>=20
> > wrote in message <A=20
> > href=3D"news:44769328$1@linux">news:44769328$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
> > <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
> > style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hmmmmm.............I use the Pultec
> =
> >Pro on=20
> > whatever I want to sweeten andon kick. It's hard to make it sound =
> >ugly.=20
> > Cambridge on bass.........a lot. I'll likely be snagging that Neve.
> =
> >I've=20
> > been hoping for something special out of those guys for a while. I =
> >decided=20
> > to forego the Roland plugins.the Neve will be useful for =
> >me.</FONT></DIV>
> > <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
> > style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
> > href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
> >wrote in=20
> > message <A =
> >href=3D"news:447691d0@linux">news:447691d0@linux</A>...</DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Excellent. I finally =
> >purchased the=20
> > Cambridge and the Pultec Pro.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Can't wait to use them on some =
> >mixes I'm=20
> > doing these days.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What do you like using the Pultec
> =
> >Pro=20
> > on? I love the EQP-1a</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>on bass, kick and a tom or two =
> >from time to=20
> > time. I question</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the crazy midrange that this Pro
> =
> >unit will=20
> > offer. E. guitar perhaps?</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sent you a tidbit.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
> > style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;
> =
> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > <DIV>"DJ" <<A=20
> > =
>
>href=3D"mailto:animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net">animix_spam-this-ahole=
> >_@animas.net</A>>=20
> > wrote in message <A=20
> > href=3D"news:44768c80@linux">news:44768c80@linux</A>...</DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Nope</FONT></DIV>
> > <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
> > style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
> >5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
> > =
> >href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote in =
> >
> > message <A =
> >href=3D"news:44768792@linux">news:44768792@linux</A>...</DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>DJ,</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Anything crazy happen when =
> >you installed=20
> > it?</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>T.</FONT></DIV>
> > <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
> > style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
> >5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > <DIV>"DJ" <<A=20
> > =
>
>href=3D"mailto:animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net">animix_spam-this-ahole=
> >_@animas.net</A>>=20
> > wrote in message <A=20
> > =
> >href=3D"news:44767230@linux">news:44767230@linux</A>...</DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm using 4.2 with no=20
> > problem</FONT></DIV>
> > <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
> > style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT:
> =
> >5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
> > =
> >href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
> > wrote in message <A=20
> > =
> >href=3D"news:4476622b$1@linux">news:4476622b$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hey guys & =
> >gal,</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am ready to update and
> =
> >wondered if=20
> > I'll lose presets or functionality.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to
> =
> >fight=20
> > spam, and you?<BR><A=20
> > =
>
>href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
> >.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCK=
> >QUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE ></BODY></HTML>
> >
> >"tonehouse" <zmcleod@comcast.net> wrote:
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060526/wr_nm/symantec_worm_dc_3 Check this
>out Norton "fans"....Not good news for Symantec
>
This is what I'm saying
Paul ReiserHey DJ, are you running SX V3? Will SX V2 work also to do ADC?
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:44778b33@linux...
> I'll be glad to tell you exactly what you need if you'll tell me what you
> want to achieve with how many tracks.......but a slower computer is going
to
> limit you in many ways no matter what you want to achieve because even
with
> UAD-1 cards, you're still processing through a native system and you've
got
> to either:
>
> 1. be able to stream all your tracks directly from the native app to Paris
> while being processed in the native app. The higher the track count, the
> more CPU cycles the native app wioll use, and despite the hype, the UAD-1
> will also cause a CPU hit........just not as much as a *really hungry*
> native plugin.
>
> 2. ..........or you've got to be able to use the native app as a
standalone
> processor in order to process the files sent from Paris *through* the
native
> app and UAD-1 plugin and return them to Paris at 64k (1.5ms) buffers or
the
> Cubase plugin delay compensation doesn't really work optimally. You might
be
> able to get away with 128ms, but it can get sloppy and flamming can
happen.
> For *live* zero latency processing, you're going to need to operate at
1.5ms
> latency in your native app.
>
> My advice is to build the most powerful rig you can for this.
>
> For hardware, I would recommend RME HDSP series cards, only because I have
> been using them and I know how to configure the system for what I need to
> do. I have configured my rig with 2 x HDSP 9652's and one HDSP Multiface
> because this combination give me exactly the number of analog and digital
> I/O I need to mix while interfaced with my Paris rig and certain digital
> processors. Dimitrios' solution of using Pulsar cards might be a more cost
> effective and perhaps less CPU intensive solution.
>
> I'm running an AMD 64 4200 x 2 dualcore CPU right now. I don't think it
will
> be long until I go to a 4800 x 2. We'll see.
>
> Regards,
>
> Deej
>
>
> "cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote in message
> news:44778062$1@linux...
> >
> >
> >
> > Um, yeah, I am starting to want this too,
> >
> > DJ, for ludites here, can you tell exactly what I need and will a slower
> > PC work for the UAD stuff?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >hehehe.........no pain, no gain..............c'mon in.......the water's
> > =
> > >............uhhhhh........well.....often frustrating but getting finer
=
> > >by the minute.
> > >
> > >;o)
> > >
> > > "Rob Arsenault" <info@studiomanitou.com> wrote in message =
> > >news:4476e909$1@linux...
> > > Man, I'm jealous of you guys, doing that realtime UAD-1 drum =
> > >processing stuff with SX/Paris.........!!!
> > >
> > > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message =
> > >news:44769328$1@linux...
> > > Hmmmmm.............I use the Pultec Pro on whatever I want to =
> > >sweeten andon kick. It's hard to make it sound ugly. Cambridge on =
> > >bass.........a lot. I'll likely be snagging that Neve. I've been hoping
> > =
> > >for something special out of those guys for a while. I decided to
forego
> > =
> > >the Roland plugins.the Neve will be useful for me.
> > > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
> > >news:447691d0@linux...
> > > Excellent. I finally purchased the Cambridge and the Pultec Pro.
> > > Can't wait to use them on some mixes I'm doing these days.
> > > What do you like using the Pultec Pro on? I love the EQP-1a
> > > on bass, kick and a tom or two from time to time. I question
> > > the crazy midrange that this Pro unit will offer. E. guitar =
> > >perhaps?
> > >
> > > Sent you a tidbit.
> > > Tom
> > >
> > >
> > > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message =
> > >news:44768c80@linux...
> > > Nope
> > > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
> > >news:44768792@linux...
> > > DJ,
> > > Anything crazy happen when you installed it?
> > > T.
> > > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
=
> > >news:44767230@linux...
> > > I'm using 4.2 with no problem
> > > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
> > >news:4476622b$1@linux...
> > > Hey guys & gal,
> > > I am ready to update and wondered if I'll lose presets or
> > =
> > >functionality.
> > > Tom
> > >
> > >
> > > I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> > > http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
> > >
> > ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> > ><HTML><HEAD>
> > ><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
> > >charset=3Diso-8859-1">
> > ><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1106" name=3DGENERATOR>
> > ><STYLE></STYLE>
> > ></HEAD>
> > ><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>hehehe.........no pain, no =
> > >gain..............c'mon=20
> > >in.......the water's ............uhhhhh........well.....often =
> > >frustrating but=20
> > >getting finer by the minute.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>;o)</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV> </DIV>
> > ><BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
> > >style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
> > >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > > <DIV>"Rob Arsenault" <<A=20
> > > href=3D"mailto:info@studiomanitou.com">info@studiomanitou.com</A>> =
> > >wrote in=20
> > > message <A =
> > >href=3D"news:4476e909$1@linux">news:4476e909$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Man, I'm jealous of you guys, doing that realtime
> > =
> > >UAD-1 drum=20
> > > processing stuff with SX/Paris.........!!!</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV> </DIV>
> > > <DIV>"DJ" <<A=20
> > > =
> >
>
>href=3D"mailto:animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net">animix_spam-this-ahole=
> > >_@animas.net</A>>=20
> > > wrote in message <A=20
> > > href=3D"news:44769328$1@linux">news:44769328$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
> > > <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
> > > style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
> > >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hmmmmm.............I use the
Pultec
> > =
> > >Pro on=20
> > > whatever I want to sweeten andon kick. It's hard to make it sound =
> > >ugly.=20
> > > Cambridge on bass.........a lot. I'll likely be snagging that Neve.
> > =
> > >I've=20
> > > been hoping for something special out of those guys for a while. I
=
> > >decided=20
> > > to forego the Roland plugins.the Neve will be useful for =
> > >me.</FONT></DIV>
> > > <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
> > > style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
> > >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
> > > href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
> > >wrote in=20
> > > message <A =
> > >href=3D"news:447691d0@linux">news:447691d0@linux</A>...</DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Excellent. I finally =
> > >purchased the=20
> > > Cambridge and the Pultec Pro.</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Can't wait to use them on some =
> > >mixes I'm=20
> > > doing these days.</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What do you like using the
Pultec
> > =
> > >Pro=20
> > > on? I love the EQP-1a</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>on bass, kick and a tom or two =
> > >from time to=20
> > > time. I question</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the crazy midrange that this Pro
> > =
> > >unit will=20
> > > offer. E. guitar perhaps?</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sent you a tidbit.</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
> > > style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;
> > =
> > >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > > <DIV>"DJ" <<A=20
> > > =
> >
>
>href=3D"mailto:animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net">animix_spam-this-ahole=
> > >_@animas.net</A>>=20
> > > wrote in message <A=20
> > > href=3D"news:44768c80@linux">news:44768c80@linux</A>...</DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Nope</FONT></DIV>
> > > <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
> > > style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
> > >5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
> > > =
> > >href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote in =
> > >
> > > message <A =
> > >href=3D"news:44768792@linux">news:44768792@linux</A>...</DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>DJ,</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Anything crazy happen when =
> > >you installed=20
> > > it?</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>T.</FONT></DIV>
> > > <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
> > > style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT:
=
> > >5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > > <DIV>"DJ" <<A=20
> > > =
> >
>
>href=3D"mailto:animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net">animix_spam-this-ahole=
> > >_@animas.net</A>>=20
> > > wrote in message <A=20
> > > =
> > >href=3D"news:44767230@linux">news:44767230@linux</A>...</DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm using 4.2 with no=20
> > > problem</FONT></DIV>
> > > <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
> > > style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px;
MARGIN-LEFT:
> > =
> > >5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
> > > =
> > >href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
> > > wrote in message <A=20
> > > =
> > >href=3D"news:4476622b$1@linux">news:4476622b$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hey guys & =
> > >gal,</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am ready to update and
> > =
> > >wondered if=20
> > > I'll lose presets or functionality.</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to
> > =
> > >fight=20
> > > spam, and you?<BR><A=20
> > > =
> >
>
>href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
> > >.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCK=
> >
>QUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE ></BODY></HTML>
> > >
> > >
>
>Does SX v2 have plugin delay compensation? I don't remember.
"Rob Arsenault" <mani2@NOSPAMnbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
news:4477952d@linux...
> Hey DJ, are you running SX V3? Will SX V2 work also to do ADC?
>
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> news:44778b33@linux...
> > I'll be glad to tell you exactly what you need if you'll tell me what
you
> > want to achieve with how many tracks.......but a slower computer is
going
> to
> > limit you in many ways no matter what you want to achieve because even
> with
> > UAD-1 cards, you're still processing through a native system and you've
> got
> > to either:
> >
> > 1. be able to stream all your tracks directly from the native app to
Paris
> > while being processed in the native app. The higher the track count, the
> > more CPU cycles the native app wioll use, and despite the hype, the
UAD-1
> > will also cause a CPU hit........just not as much as a *really hungry*
> > native plugin.
> >
> > 2. ..........or you've got to be able to use the native app as a
> standalone
> > processor in order to process the files sent from Paris *through* the
> native
> > app and UAD-1 plugin and return them to Paris at 64k (1.5ms) buffers or
> the
> > Cubase plugin delay compensation doesn't really work optimally. You
might
> be
> > able to get away with 128ms, but it can get sloppy and flamming can
> happen.
> > For *live* zero latency processing, you're going to need to operate at
> 1.5ms
> > latency in your native app.
> >
> > My advice is to build the most powerful rig you can for this.
> >
> > For hardware, I would recommend RME HDSP series cards, only because I
have
> > been using them and I know how to configure the system for what I need
to
> > do. I have configured my rig with 2 x HDSP 9652's and one HDSP Multiface
> > because this combination give me exactly the number of analog and
digital
> > I/O I need to mix while interfaced with my Paris rig and certain digital
> > processors. Dimitrios' solution of using Pulsar cards might be a more
cost
> > effective and perhaps less CPU intensive solution.
> >
> > I'm running an AMD 64 4200 x 2 dualcore CPU right now. I don't think it
> will
> > be long until I go to a 4800 x 2. We'll see.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Deej
> >
> >
> > "cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote in message
> > news:44778062$1@linux...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Um, yeah, I am starting to want this too,
> > >
> > > DJ, for ludites here, can you tell exactly what I need and will a
slower
> > > PC work for the UAD stuff?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >hehehe.........no pain, no gain..............c'mon in.......the
water's
> > > =
> > > >............uhhhhh........well.....often frustrating but getting
finer
> =
> > > >by the minute.
> > > >
> > > >;o)
> > > >
> > > > "Rob Arsenault" <info@studiomanitou.com> wrote in message =
> > > >news:4476e909$1@linux...
> > > > Man, I'm jealous of you guys, doing that realtime UAD-1 drum =
> > > >processing stuff with SX/Paris.........!!!
> > > >
> > > > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message =
> > > >news:44769328$1@linux...
> > > > Hmmmmm.............I use the Pultec Pro on whatever I want to =
> > > >sweeten andon kick. It's hard to make it sound ugly. Cambridge on =
> > > >bass.........a lot. I'll likely be snagging that Neve. I've been
hoping
> > > =
> > > >for something special out of those guys for a while. I decided to
> forego
> > > =
> > > >the Roland plugins.the Neve will be useful for me.
> > > > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
> > > >news:447691d0@linux...
> > > > Excellent. I finally purchased the Cambridge and the Pultec
Pro.
> > > > Can't wait to use them on some mixes I'm doing these days.
> > > > What do you like using the Pultec Pro on? I love the EQP-1a
> > > > on bass, kick and a tom or two from time to time. I question
> > > > the crazy midrange that this Pro unit will offer. E. guitar =
> > > >perhaps?
> > > >
> > > > Sent you a tidbit.
> > > > Tom
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message =
> > > >news:44768c80@linux...
> > > > Nope
> > > > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
> > > >news:44768792@linux...
> > > > DJ,
> > > > Anything crazy happen when you installed it?
> > > > T.
> > > > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in
message
> =
> > > >news:44767230@
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| Re: Paris reacts DIFFERENT under Me opposed to XP ! [message #67640 is a reply to message #67637] |
Thu, 04 May 2006 04:49 |
Paul
Messages: 14
Registered: June 2005
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DArial size=3D2>Anything crazy happen when
=
> > > >you installed=20
> > > > it?</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>T.</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
> > > > style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px;
MARGIN-LEFT:
> =
> > > >5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > > > <DIV>"DJ" <<A=20
> > > > =
> > >
> >
>
>href=3D"mailto:animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net">animix_spam-this-ahole=
> > > >_@animas.net</A>>=20
> > > > wrote in message <A=20
> > > > =
> > > >href=3D"news:44767230@linux">news:44767230@linux</A>...</DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm using 4.2 with no=20
> > > > problem</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
> > > > style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px;
> MARGIN-LEFT:
> > > =
> > > >5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > > > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
> > > > =
> > > >href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
> > > > wrote in message <A=20
> > > > =
> > > >href=3D"news:4476622b$1@linux">news:4476622b$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hey guys & =
> > > >gal,</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am ready to update
and
> > > =
> > > >wondered if=20
> > > > I'll lose presets or functionality.</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam
to
> > > =
> > > >fight=20
> > > > spam, and you?<BR><A=20
> > > > =
> > >
> >
>
>href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
> > > >.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCK=
> > >
> >QUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE ></BODY></HTML>
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
>
>If the Mac is a nubus, you can sell the Nuverb together with the Mac for a
good price on EBay. I've seen a working Nuverb setup go for $400.00-$600.00,
though it's been a while. The Nuverb is, I think, basically equivalent to a
Lexicon 300 and can be patched in to a board as a standalone processor.
Deej
"Sanbar" <sanbar@wi.rr.com> wrote in message news:447783c0@linux...
> I saw this gear for $900. Is it worth it.
>
> 1- 888 Digi 8 in 8 out rack
> 1- 882 digi 8 in 8 out rack
> 1- digi adat bridge
> 1- Digi 11 space expansion rack
> 5- Mix Farm Cards
> 1- lexicon nuverb
> 1- waves bundle
> 1- 18 gig drive
> 1- 2 gig drive
> 1- 4 gig drive
> 1- orb drive with 6 disks
> 2- digi input cards
> 1- mac powerpc computer with mouse and keyboard
> *all cables included
> *all manuals for everthing *plus all install disks for everything
> *also included 3 pro tools and one DVD instruction and help books
>
>BTW, this would be an awesome rig to use as a standalone processor, similar
to the way I'm patching Paris tracks through Cubase SX channels. Depending
on the number of ADAT channels, you could process Paris tracks with TDM
plugins in real time during mixdown.
Muhahahahah!!!!!!!
"Sanbar" <sanbar@wi.rr.com> wrote in message news:447783c0@linux...
> I saw this gear for $900. Is it worth it.
>
> 1- 888 Digi 8 in 8 out rack
> 1- 882 digi 8 in 8 out rack
> 1- digi adat bridge
> 1- Digi 11 space expansion rack
> 5- Mix Farm Cards
> 1- lexicon nuverb
> 1- waves bundle
> 1- 18 gig drive
> 1- 2 gig drive
> 1- 4 gig drive
> 1- orb drive with 6 disks
> 2- digi input cards
> 1- mac powerpc computer with mouse and keyboard
> *all cables included
> *all manuals for everthing *plus all install disks for everything
> *also included 3 pro tools and one DVD instruction and help books
>
>Plus........think of the outrage in the PT community this would cause. I
sorta get the image of the dominant Paris dog humping the submissive PT
dog..........but then again, I'm sorta sick this way..
;o)
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:4477ab8d@linux...
> BTW, this would be an awesome rig to use as a standalone processor,
similar
> to the way I'm patching Paris tracks through Cubase SX channels. Depending
> on the number of ADAT channels, you could process Paris tracks with TDM
> plugins in real time during mixdown.
>
> Muhahahahah!!!!!!!
>
>
> "Sanbar" <sanbar@wi.rr.com> wrote in message news:447783c0@linux...
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| Re: Paris reacts DIFFERENT under Me opposed to XP ! [message #67641 is a reply to message #67640] |
Thu, 04 May 2006 04:52 |
Paul
Messages: 14
Registered: June 2005
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/>
> > I saw this gear for $900. Is it worth it.
> >
> > 1- 888 Digi 8 in 8 out rack
> > 1- 882 digi 8 in 8 out rack
> > 1- digi adat bridge
> > 1- Digi 11 space expansion rack
> > 5- Mix Farm Cards
> > 1- lexicon nuverb
> > 1- waves bundle
> > 1- 18 gig drive
> > 1- 2 gig drive
> > 1- 4 gig drive
> > 1- orb drive with 6 disks
> > 2- digi input cards
> > 1- mac powerpc computer with mouse and keyboard
> > *all cables included
> > *all manuals for everthing *plus all install disks for everything
> > *also included 3 pro tools and one DVD instruction and help books
> >
> >
>
>Hi John,
The Ampeg preamp came in today. It's got some nice (and startlingly obvious)
tone shaping possibilities that are very specific to bass. One
question.............when I crank the master knob, you'd think I would hear
a difference in output volume, but nothing is happening. Could be that I've
got a defective unit.. I'm running the balanced output direct to a Paris A/D
converter. Cranking the volume knob completely clockwise gets me to
around -10dB on the Paris meter.
It sounds nice, but to be quite honest, I'm using a stock PBass (passive
pickups) and A/B'ing it with an Avalon 737 and a Presonus ADL 600 and those
two preamps are kicking it's ass most seriously in every way. The ADL is an
absolute monster as a bass DI, even though it doesn't have an EQ. Every
nuance of the finger touching the string, touching the fret, pulling off the
fret is so friggin articulated with this preamp that it's absolutely sick.
This preamp actually picks up my thought patterns, converts them to audio
and I hear them through the Paris converters as I'm deciding where to fret
next.
Anyway, like I said, maybe I've got a defective Ampeg.
Cheers,
Deej
"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44758e35$1@linux...
>
> DJ, Also add 3 to 6 db of compression post to get it right in the pocket.
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >I just ordered one of these from MF. I want to A/B it against my *go to*
> >bass DI which is an Avalon 737. I'm gonna give it 45 days to infatuate
me.
> >
> >;o)
> >
> >"john" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44735027$1@linux...
> >>
> >> Ymmv but my sansamp was crap tonewise and this Ampeg preamp has totally
> >infatuated
> >> me. You need to try them but I will never have a sans amp again. The
> >tone
> >> to me is totally amateurish and not even at all plus low signal output.
> >> How sucky is that?
> >> John
> >>
> >> "justcron" <paris@hydrorecords.com> wrote:
> >> >haha no it doesn't
> >> >
> >> >And Neil... I dont think thats a good idear...
> >> >
> >> >"john" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:4472fa19$1@linux...
> >> >>
> >> >> sans-amp sucks. i sold mine on ebay and bought the Ampeg SVPCL for
> >$350
> >>
> >> >> used.
> >> >> Awesome! The tone is EVEN and LOW where the sansamp is neither.
> >> >> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM04/Content/Ampeg/PR/SVP CL.html
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>I have a bass track that this band I'm recording is happy with
> >> >>>the sound of, but I personally think sucks... OK, maybe I
> >> >>>should say it a different way: "They like it, but I think they
> >> >>>might like it even better if I could improve upon it :D
> >> >>>How's that for politically correct? lol
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Anyway, I'm thinking about reamping it or maybe Sans-amp-ing it,
> >> >>>but here's my question: If I pick up a Bass Sansamp, I know the
> >> >>>input isn't designed for line-level stuff, so if I run the
> >> >>>signal out of a line-level out on my convertors, then through a
> >> >>>mic pre that also has a line-level input and also an output
> >> >>>level control (of which I have a few), can I just feed a very
> >> >>>low level out of the preamp into the Sansamp input, or will I
> >> >>>run into impedance issues with this method?
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Reamping's no problem - I can easily rig that up, so if this
> >> >>>other option doesn't work, I can always fall back on that, but
> >> >>>for another choice, would a Sansamp box work in this instance?
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Problem is "Farty distortion", BTW. It may take a re-tracking
> >> >>>with a better input chain than the bass player's Carvin head
> >> >>>line-out jack, but I want to at least investigate other options
> >> >>>first. Worst bass sound I ever permitted to go to track... how's
> >> >>>that for an achievement? lol Totally my fault, though -
> >> >>>despite the band insisting they liked it, I should have at
> >> >>>least taken a direct feed though a preamp or direct box on
> >> >>>another channel, as well.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Neil
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>Give me a call if you're still awake willya?
thanks
DCHey all,
I am discovering some *amazing* stuff trying a multiband
split/compressor in Paris. THANK YOU to Sakis and Deej for the
help with this.
More to follow, but I am getting results, on very familiar material
that are just making me grin from ear to ear...
As soon as I get this live disc out the door I will post the details.
Paris lives!
DCOh hey, I thought it was hilarious. But you have to respect their
discipline and dedication to their instruments.
The problem is that it is really hard to write good music that shows
off this level of skill. I mean Yngwie has already done the Pagannini
thing, right? It quickly leaves the realm of art and literature that
great music inhabits and becomes, well, wanking.
I do prefer a good wank to death-obsessed horsesh*t I must admit...
DC
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@
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| Re: Paris reacts DIFFERENT under Me opposed to XP ! [message #67642 is a reply to message #67641] |
Thu, 04 May 2006 05:13 |
Dimitrios
Messages: 1056
Registered: August 2005
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Senior Member |
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;hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Speed Wankers!
>
> The second break, there is a bad lip sync on the drummer; ) Second guitar
>solo/lead is a bit out of sync too. But hey, there sound fast!
>
>"DC" <dc@shreddersinhell.org> wrote:
>>
>>Yeow!
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njDtlnNkjko&search=dragon force
>Deej.. it's typical for the master to only run the amp / amp output.. since
you're into the DI out this is probably a normal operating procedure. That
keeps the player from jacking gain on the soundman in a live situation when
playing volume war with the gtr player. There are some exceptions (SWR model
400 is one) that don't stick to this ruling, but I bet the Ampeg is on the
'standard'.
Try hitting a DI from the *to the amp* output and I bet the master works.
AA
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:4477d24d@linux...
> Hi John,
>
> The Ampeg preamp came in today. It's got some nice (and startlingly
> obvious)
> tone shaping possibilities that are very specific to bass. One
> question.............when I crank the master knob, you'd think I would
> hear
> a difference in output volume, but nothing is happening. Could be that
> I've
> got a defective unit.. I'm running the balanced output direct to a Paris
> A/D
> converter. Cranking the volume knob completely clockwise gets me to
> around -10dB on the Paris meter.
> It sounds nice, but to be quite honest, I'm using a stock PBass (passive
> pickups) and A/B'ing it with an Avalon 737 and a Presonus ADL 600 and
> those
> two preamps are kicking it's ass most seriously in every way. The ADL is
> an
> absolute monster as a bass DI, even though it doesn't have an EQ. Every
> nuance of the finger touching the string, touching the fret, pulling off
> the
> fret is so friggin articulated with this preamp that it's absolutely sick.
> This preamp actually picks up my thought patterns, converts them to audio
> and I hear them through the Paris converters as I'm deciding where to fret
> next.
>
> Anyway, like I said, maybe I've got a defective Ampeg.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Deej
>
>
> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44758e35$1@linux...
>>
>> DJ, Also add 3 to 6 db of compression post to get it right in the
>> pocket.
>>
>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>> >I just ordered one of these from MF. I want to A/B it against my *go to*
>> >bass DI which is an Avalon 737. I'm gonna give it 45 days to infatuate
> me.
>> >
>> >;o)
>> >
>> >"john" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44735027$1@linux...
>> >>
>> >> Ymmv but my sansamp was crap tonewise and this Ampeg preamp has
>> >> totally
>> >infatuated
>> >> me. You need to try them but I will never have a sans amp again. The
>> >tone
>> >> to me is totally amateurish and not even at all plus low signal
>> >> output.
>> >> How sucky is that?
>> >> John
>> >>
>> >> "justcron" <paris@hydrorecords.com> wrote:
>> >> >haha no it doesn't
>> >> >
>> >> >And Neil... I dont think thats a good idear...
>> >> >
>> >> >"john" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:4472fa19$1@linux...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> sans-amp sucks. i sold mine on ebay and bought the Ampeg SVPCL for
>> >$350
>> >>
>> >> >> used.
>> >> >> Awesome! The tone is EVEN and LOW where the sansamp is neither.
>> >> >> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM04/Content/Ampeg/PR/SVP CL.html
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>I have a bass track that this band I'm recording is happy with
>> >> >>>the sound of, but I personally think sucks... OK, maybe I
>> >> >>>should say it a different way: "They like it, but I think they
>> >> >>>might like it even better if I could improve upon it :D
>> >> >>>How's that for politically correct? lol
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>Anyway, I'm thinking about reamping it or maybe Sans-amp-ing it,
>> >> >>>but here's my question: If I pick up a Bass Sansamp, I know the
>> >> >>>input isn't designed for line-level stuff, so if I run the
>> >> >>>signal out of a line-level out on my convertors, then through a
>> >> >>>mic pre that also has a line-level input and also an output
>> >> >>>level control (of which I have a few), can I just feed a very
>> >> >>>low level out of the preamp into the Sansamp input, or will I
>> >> >>>run into impedance issues with this method?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>Reamping's no problem - I can easily rig that up, so if this
>> >> >>>other option doesn't work, I can always fall back on that, but
>> >> >>>for another choice, would a Sansamp box work in this instance?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>Problem is "Farty distortion", BTW. It may take a re-tracking
>> >> >>>with a better input chain than the bass player's Carvin head
>> >> >>>line-out jack, but I want to at least investigate other options
>> >> >>>first. Worst bass sound I ever permitted to go to track... how's
>> >> >>>that for an achievement? lol Totally my fault, though -
>> >> >>>despite the band insisting they liked it, I should have at
>> >> >>>least taken a direct feed though a preamp or direct box on
>> >> >>>another channel, as well.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>Neil
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
http://www.polesoft.com/refer.htmlOK then.. thanks. I'll probably RTFM tonight. This thing has some very
interesting tone shaping properties. I'm liking what it's doing but it
really needs to be used with either active pickups or, if used with passive
pickups, to be output to another device with additional gain staging (like a
compressor as John suggested) in order to achieve optimal recording levels.
When I first opened it up, I though "o'gawd.......another tweakhead box.
It's gonna' take me forever to dial in anything usable". Wrong. It's very
easy to snag your basic sound and then contour it to taste. I've got a
Demeter "H" series opto preamp that is starting to look like it's gonna end
up being the Ampeg's bitch. What I have achieved so far with this is a very
coloured sound, but so is my B15-N and I like that color just fine.
;o)
"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
news:4477e4ca$1@linux...
> Deej.. it's typical for the master to only run the amp / amp output..
since
> you're into the DI out this is probably a normal operating procedure. That
> keeps the player from jacking gain on the soundman in a live situation
when
> playing volume war with the gtr player. There are some exceptions (SWR
model
> 400 is one) that don't stick to this ruling, but I bet the Ampeg is on the
> 'standard'.
> Try hitting a DI from the *to the amp* output and I bet the master works.
>
> AA
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| Re: Paris reacts DIFFERENT under Me opposed to XP ! [message #67643 is a reply to message #67634] |
Thu, 04 May 2006 05:38 |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
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Senior Member |
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>
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> news:4477d24d@linux...
> > Hi John,
> >
> > The Ampeg preamp came in today. It's got some nice (and startlingly
> > obvious)
> > tone shaping possibilities that are very specific to bass. One
> > question.............when I crank the master knob, you'd think I would
> > hear
> > a difference in output volume, but nothing is happening. Could be that
> > I've
> > got a defective unit.. I'm running the balanced output direct to a Paris
> > A/D
> > converter. Cranking the volume knob completely clockwise gets me to
> > around -10dB on the Paris meter.
> > It sounds nice, but to be quite honest, I'm using a stock PBass (passive
> > pickups) and A/B'ing it with an Avalon 737 and a Presonus ADL 600 and
> > those
> > two preamps are kicking it's ass most seriously in every way. The ADL is
> > an
> > absolute monster as a bass DI, even though it doesn't have an EQ. Every
> > nuance of the finger touching the string, touching the fret, pulling off
> > the
> > fret is so friggin articulated with this preamp that it's absolutely
sick.
> > This preamp actually picks up my thought patterns, converts them to
audio
> > and I hear them through the Paris converters as I'm deciding where to
fret
> > next.
> >
> > Anyway, like I said, maybe I've got a defective Ampeg.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Deej
> >
> >
> > "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44758e35$1@linux...
> >>
> >> DJ, Also add 3 to 6 db of compression post to get it right in the
> >> pocket.
> >>
> >> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >> >I just ordered one of these from MF. I want to A/B it against my *go
to*
> >> >bass DI which is an Avalon 737. I'm gonna give it 45 days to infatuate
> > me.
> >> >
> >> >;o)
> >> >
> >> >"john" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44735027$1@linux...
> >> >>
> >> >> Ymmv but my sansamp was crap tonewise and this Ampeg preamp has
> >> >> totally
> >> >infatuated
> >> >> me. You need to try them but I will never have a sans amp again.
The
> >> >tone
> >> >> to me is totally amateurish and not even at all plus low signal
> >> >> output.
> >> >> How sucky is that?
> >> >> John
> >> >>
> >> >> "justcron" <paris@hydrorecords.com> wrote:
> >> >> >haha no it doesn't
> >> >> >
> >> >> >And Neil... I dont think thats a good idear...
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"john" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:4472fa19$1@linux...
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> sans-amp sucks. i sold mine on ebay and bought the Ampeg SVPCL
for
> >> >$350
> >> >>
> >> >> >> used.
> >> >> >> Awesome! The tone is EVEN and LOW where the sansamp is neither.
> >> >> >>
http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM04/Content/Ampeg/PR/SVP CL.html
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>I have a bass track that this band I'm recording is happy with
> >> >> >>>the sound of, but I personally think sucks... OK, maybe I
> >> >> >>>should say it a different way: "They like it, but I think they
> >> >> >>>might like it even better if I could improve upon it :D
> >> >> >>>How's that for politically correct? lol
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>Anyway, I'm thinking about reamping it or maybe Sans-amp-ing it,
> >> >> >>>but here's my question: If I pick up a Bass Sansamp, I know the
> >> >> >>>input isn't designed for line-level stuff, so if I run the
> >> >> >>>signal out of a line-level out on my convertors, then through a
> >> >> >>>mic pre that also has a line-level input and also an output
> >> >> >>>level control (of which I have a few), can I just feed a very
> >> >> >>>low level out of the preamp into the Sansamp input, or will I
> >> >> >>>run into impedance issues with this method?
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>Reamping's no problem - I can easily rig that up, so if this
> >> >> >>>other option doesn't work, I can always fall back on that, but
> >> >> >>>for another choice, would a Sansamp box work in this instance?
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>Problem is "Farty distortion", BTW. It may take a re-tracking
> >> >> >>>with a better input chain than the bass player's Carvin head
> >> >> >>>line-out jack, but I want to at l
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| Re: Paris reacts DIFFERENT under Me opposed to XP ! [message #67644 is a reply to message #67642] |
Thu, 04 May 2006 05:43 |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
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east investigate other options
> >> >> >>>first. Worst bass sound I ever permitted to go to track... how's
> >> >> >>>that for an achievement? lol Totally my fault, though -
> >> >> >>>despite the band insisting they liked it, I should have at
> >> >> >>>least taken a direct feed though a preamp or direct box on
> >> >> >>>another channel, as well.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>Neil
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>
>Well, FWIW, I ended up picking up a SansampBass & ran the
signal out through my reamp box (it's the one made by Radial),
and did both... Sansamp-ed the track, then reamped it as
well... it's MUCH, much better, though still not what I'd
consider "killer", it'll definitely work, though. The Sansamp
gave it some presence & wooliness that it was lacking, and the
reamped track gave it presence and better articulation/clarity,
using a Mesa head on the cleanest setting, and running it
through a guitar cab with some really tight speakers, then
micing it with a TLM-103 through a Neve Portico I also recently
snagged. I think it'll all work out fine with a blend of those
two tracks.
Also tried the new Portico on a soft vocal track with a Claytor
Special (the Royer-modded MXL)... jury's still out on that,
though - took me about two seconds to yank it & put the mic
back through the Chandler TG2 - the Chandler kicked it's ass.
Was not really impressed with the Portico for that application.
Hard vox tomorrow - we'll see how it does up against the ISA
428, which is what we've been using for the harder-edged stuff
on this project.
Neil
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>OK then.. thanks. I'll probably RTFM tonight. This thing has some very
>interesting tone shaping properties. I'm liking what it's doing but it
>really needs to be used with either active pickups or, if used with passive
>pickups, to be output to another device with additional gain staging (like
a
>compressor as John suggested) in order to achieve optimal recording levels.
>When I first opened it up, I though "o'gawd.......another tweakhead box.
>It's gonna' take me forever to dial in anything usable". Wrong. It's very
>easy to snag your basic sound and then contour it to taste. I've got a
>Demeter "H" series opto preamp that is starting to look like it's gonna
end
>up being the Ampeg's bitch. What I have achieved so far with this is a very
>coloured sound, but so is my B15-N and I like that color just fine.
>
>;o)
>
>"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>news:4477e4ca$1@linux...
>> Deej.. it's typical for the master to only run the amp / amp output..
>since
>> you're into the DI out this is probably a normal operating procedure.
That
>> keeps the player from jacking gain on the soundman in a live situation
>when
>> playing volume war with the gtr player. There are some exceptions (SWR
>model
>> 400 is one) that don't stick to this ruling, but I bet the Ampeg is on
the
>> 'standard'.
>> Try hitting a DI from the *to the amp* output and I bet the master works.
>>
>> AA
>>
>>
>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>> news:4477d24d@linux...
>> > Hi John,
>> >
>> > The Ampeg preamp came in today. It's got some nice (and startlingly
>> > obvious)
>> > tone shaping possibilities that are very specific to bass. One
>> > question.............when I crank the master knob, you'd think I would
>> > hear
>> > a difference in output volume, but nothing is happening. Could be that
>> > I've
>> > got a defective unit.. I'm running the balanced output direct to a Paris
>> > A/D
>> > converter. Cranking the volume knob completely clockwise gets me to
>> > around -10dB on the Paris meter.
>> > It sounds nice, but to be quite honest, I'm using a stock PBass (passive
>> > pickups) and A/B'ing it with an Avalon 737 and a Presonus ADL 600 and
>> > those
>> > two preamps are kicking it's ass most seriously in every way. The ADL
is
>> > an
>> > absolute monster as a bass DI, even though it doesn't have an EQ. Every
>> > nuance of the finger touching the string, touching the fret, pulling
off
>> > the
>> > fret is so friggin articulated with this preamp that it's absolutely
>sick.
>> > This preamp actually picks up my thought patterns, converts them to
>audio
>> > and I hear them through the Paris converters as I'm deciding where to
>fret
>> > next.
>> >
>> > Anyway, like I said, maybe I've got a defective Ampeg.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> > Deej
>> >
>> >
>> > "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44758e35$1@linux...
>> >>
>> >> DJ, Also add 3 to 6 db of compression post to get it right in the
>> >> pocket.
>> >>
>> >> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>> >> >I just ordered one of these from MF. I want to A/B it against my *go
>to*
>> >> >bass DI which is an Avalon 737. I'm gonna give it 45 days to infatuate
>> > me.
>> >> >
>> >> >;o)
>> >> >
>> >> >"john" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44735027$1@linux...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Ymmv but my sansamp was crap tonewise and this Ampeg preamp has
>> >> >> totally
>> >> >infatuated
>> >> >> me. You need to try them but I will never have a sans amp again.
>The
>> >> >tone
>> >> >> to me is totally amateurish and not even at all plus low signal
>> >> >> output.
>> >> >> How sucky is that?
>> >> >> John
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "justcron" <paris@hydrorecords.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >haha no it doesn't
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >And Neil... I dont think thats a good idear...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >"john" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:4472fa19$1@linux...
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> sans-amp sucks. i sold mine on ebay and bought the Ampeg SVPCL
>for
>> >> >$350
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> used.
>> >> >> >> Awesome! The tone is EVEN and LOW where the sansamp is neither.
>> >> >> >>
> http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM04/Content/Ampeg/PR/SVP CL.html
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>I have a bass track that this band I'm recording is happy with
>> >> >> >>>the sound of, but I personally think sucks... OK, maybe I
>> >> >> >>>should say it a different way: "They like it, but I think they
>> >> >> >>>might like it even better if I could improve upon it :D
>> >> >> >>>How's that for politically correct? lol
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>Anyway, I'm thinking about reamping it or maybe Sans-amp-ing
it,
>> >> >> >>>but here's my question: If I pick up a Bass Sansamp, I know the
>> >> >> >>>input isn't designed for line-level stuff, so if I run the
>> >> >> >>>signal out of a line-level out on my convertors, then through
a
>> >> >> >>>mic pre that also has a line-level input and also an output
>> >> >> >>>level control (of which I have a few), can I just feed a very
>> >> >> >>>low level out of the preamp into the Sansamp input, or will I
>> >> >> >>>run into impedance issues with this method?
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>Reamping's no problem - I can easily rig that up, so if this
>> >> >> >>>other option doesn't work, I can always fall back on that, but
>> >> >> >>>for another choice, would a Sansamp box work in this instance?
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>Problem is "Farty distortion", BTW. It may take a re-tracking
>> >> >> >>>with a better input chain than the bass player's Carvin head
>> >> >> >>>line-out jack, but I want to at least investigate other options
>> >> >> >>>first. Worst bass sound I ever permitted to go to track... how's
>> >> >> >>>that for an achievement? lol Totally my fa
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ult, though -
>> >> >> >>>despite the band insisting they liked it, I should have at
>> >> >> >>>least taken a direct feed though a preamp or direct box on
>> >> >> >>>another channel, as well.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>Neil
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
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Deej,
>I sorta get the image of the dominant Paris dog humping the submissive =
PT
>dog..........but then again, I'm sorta sick this way..
We all are.
Tom
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message =
news:4477abef$1@linux...
Plus........think of the outrage in the PT community this would cause. =
I
sorta get the image of the dominant Paris dog humping the submissive =
PT
dog..........but then again, I'm sorta sick this way..
;o)
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:4477ab8d@linux...
> BTW, this would be an awesome rig to use as a standalone processor,
similar
> to the way I'm patching Paris tracks through Cubase SX channels. =
Depending
> on the number of ADAT channels, you could process Paris tracks with =
TDM
> plugins in real time during mixdown.
>
> Muhahahahah!!!!!!!
>
>
> "Sanbar" <sanbar@wi.rr.com> wrote in message news:447783c0@linux...
> > I saw this gear for $900. Is it worth it.
> >
> > 1- 888 Digi 8 in 8 out rack
> > 1- 882 digi 8 in 8 out rack
> > 1- digi adat bridge
> > 1- Digi 11 space expansion rack
> > 5- Mix Farm Cards
> > 1- lexicon nuverb
> > 1- waves bundle
> > 1- 18 gig drive
> > 1- 2 gig drive
> > 1- 4 gig drive
> > 1- orb drive with 6 disks
> > 2- digi input cards
> > 1- mac powerpc computer with mouse and keyboard
> > *all cables included
> > *all manuals for everthing *plus all install disks for everything
> > *also included 3 pro tools and one DVD instruction and help books
> >
> >
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------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C6813D.B3020500--Keep us posted on the Portico. I've been lusting after one of those, but
tonight I took the plunge, stuck some rubber feet on the module below it so
I wouldn't scratch it and actually inserted the ADL 600 in the top of my
rack where it can't get scratched top or bottom and it will be stable riding
the rubber feet on top of the other module without using rack screws. Morgan
has been kind enough to allow me to demo it for a while and now I'm getting
blown away by it more and more each day.. Using this exhalted top rack
position means three things..........
1. It needs (and gets) plenty of ventilation (this is a slant rack so the
top of any module in this rack is angled downward, nothing covers the top of
the module and therefore it has lots of air above it for ventilation..
2. I'm now gonna be patching it into my bay.
3. I'm gonna figure out a way to pay for it.
It ain't cheap, but I'm finding it so useful that I think it's going to be
it's worth every penny. This thing sounds big and expensive, like my Great
River MP2-MH sounds big and expensive, though obviously in two different
ways.
Damned impressive piece of work.
;o)
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OI.com> wrote in message news:4477f007$1@linux...
>
> Well, FWIW, I ended up picking up a SansampBass & ran the
> signal out through my reamp box (it's the one made by Radial),
> and did both... Sansamp-ed the track, then reamped it as
> well... it's MUCH, much better, though still not what I'd
> consider "killer", it'll definitely work, though. The Sansamp
> gave it some presence & wooliness that it was lacking, and the
> reamped track gave it presence and better articulation/clarity,
> using a Mesa head on the cleanest setting, and running it
> through a guitar cab with some really tight speakers, then
> micing it with a TLM-103 through a Neve Portico I also recently
> snagged. I think it'll all work out fine with a blend of those
> two tracks.
>
> Also tried the new Portico on a soft vocal track with a Claytor
> Special (the Royer-modded MXL)... jury's still out on that,
> though - took me about two seconds to yank it & put the mic
> back through the Chandler TG2 - the Chandler kicked it's ass.
> Was not really impressed with the Portico for that application.
> Hard vox tomorrow - we'll see how it does up against the ISA
> 428, which is what we've been using for the harder-edged stuff
> on this project.
>
> Neil
>
>
>
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >OK then.. thanks. I'll probably RTFM tonight. This thing has some very
> >interesting tone shaping properties. I'm liking what it's doing but it
> >really needs to be used with either active pickups or, if used with
passive
> >pickups, to be output to another device with additional gain staging
(like
> a
> >compressor as John suggested) in order to achieve optimal recording
levels.
> >When I first opened it up, I though "o'gawd.......another tweakhead box.
> >It's gonna' take me forever to dial in anything usable". Wrong. It's very
> >easy to snag your basic sound and then contour it to taste. I've got a
> >Demeter "H" series opto preamp that is starting to look like it's gonna
> end
> >up being the Ampeg's bitch. What I have achieved so far with this is a
very
> >coloured sound, but so is my B15-N and I like that color just fine.
> >
> >;o)
> >
> >"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude
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Thu, 04 May 2006 05:44 |
Dimitrios
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a>> wrote in message
> >news:4477e4ca$1@linux...
> >> Deej.. it's typical for the master to only run the amp / amp output..
> >since
> >> you're into the DI out this is probably a normal operating procedure.
> That
> >> keeps the player from jacking gain on the soundman in a live situation
> >when
> >> playing volume war with the gtr player. There are some exceptions (SWR
> >model
> >> 400 is one) that don't stick to this ruling, but I bet the Ampeg is on
> the
> >> 'standard'.
> >> Try hitting a DI from the *to the amp* output and I bet the master
works.
> >>
> >> AA
> >>
> >>
> >> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> >> news:4477d24d@linux...
> >> > Hi John,
> >> >
> >> > The Ampeg preamp came in today. It's got some nice (and startlingly
> >> > obvious)
> >> > tone shaping possibilities that are very specific to bass. One
> >> > question.............when I crank the master knob, you'd think I
would
> >> > hear
> >> > a difference in output volume, but nothing is happening. Could be
that
> >> > I've
> >> > got a defective unit.. I'm running the balanced output direct to a
Paris
> >> > A/D
> >> > converter. Cranking the volume knob completely clockwise gets me to
> >> > around -10dB on the Paris meter.
> >> > It sounds nice, but to be quite honest, I'm using a stock PBass
(passive
> >> > pickups) and A/B'ing it with an Avalon 737 and a Presonus ADL 600 and
> >> > those
> >> > two preamps are kicking it's ass most seriously in every way. The ADL
> is
> >> > an
> >> > absolute monster as a bass DI, even though it doesn't have an EQ.
Every
> >> > nuance of the finger touching the string, touching the fret, pulling
> off
> >> > the
> >> > fret is so friggin articulated with this preamp that it's absolutely
> >sick.
> >> > This preamp actually picks up my thought patterns, converts them to
> >audio
> >> > and I hear them through the Paris converters as I'm deciding where to
> >fret
> >> > next.
> >> >
> >> > Anyway, like I said, maybe I've got a defective Ampeg.
> >> >
> >> > Cheers,
> >> >
> >> > Deej
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44758e35$1@linux...
> >> >>
> >> >> DJ, Also add 3 to 6 db of compression post to get it right in the
> >> >> pocket.
> >> >>
> >> >> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >> >> >I just ordered one of these from MF. I want to A/B it against my
*go
> >to*
> >> >> >bass DI which is an Avalon 737. I'm gonna give it 45 days to
infatuate
> >> > me.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >;o)
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"john" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44735027$1@linux...
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Ymmv but my sansamp was crap tonewise and this Ampeg preamp has
> >> >> >> totally
> >> >> >infatuated
> >> >> >> me. You need to try them but I will never have a sans amp again.
> >The
> >> >> >tone
> >> >> >> to me is totally amateurish and not even at all plus low signal
> >> >> >> output.
> >> >> >> How sucky is that?
> >> >> >> John
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "justcron" <paris@hydrorecords.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >haha no it doesn't
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >And Neil... I dont think thats a good idear...
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >"john" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:4472fa19$1@linux...
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> sans-amp sucks. i sold mine on ebay and bought the Ampeg
SVPCL
> >for
> >> >> >$350
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> used.
> >> >> >> >> Awesome! The tone is EVEN and LOW where the sansamp is
neither.
> >> >> >> >>
> > http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM04/Content/Ampeg/PR/SVP CL.html
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>I have a bass track that this band I'm recording is happy with
> >> >> >> >>>the sound of, but I personally think sucks... OK, maybe I
> >> >> >> >>>should say it a different way: "They like it, but I think they
> >> >> >> >>>might like it even better if I could improve upon it :D
> >> >> >> >>>How's that for politically correct? lol
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>Anyway, I'm thinking about reamping it or maybe Sans-amp-ing
> it,
> >> >> >> >>>but here's my question: If I pick up a Bass Sansamp, I know
the
> >> >> >> >>>input isn't designed for line-level stuff, so if I run the
> >> >> >> >>>signal out of a line-level out on my convertors, then through
> a
> >> >> >> >>>mic pre that also has a line-level input and also an output
> >> >> >> >>>level control (of which I have a few), can I just feed a very
> >> >> >> >>>low level out of the preamp into the Sansamp input, or will I
> >> >> >> >>>run into impedance issues with this method?
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>Reamping's no problem - I can easily rig that up, so if this
> >> >> >> >>>other option doesn't work, I can always fall back on that, but
> >> >> >> >>>for another choice, would a Sansamp box work in this instance?
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>Problem is "Farty distortion", BTW. It may take a re-tracking
> >> >> >> >>>with a better input chain than the bass player's Carvin head
> >> >> >> >>>line-out jack, but I want to at least investigate other
options
> >> >> >> >>>first. Worst bass sound I ever permitted to go to track...
how's
> >> >> >> >>>that for an achievement? lol Totally my fault, though -
> >> >> >> >>>despite the band insisting they liked it, I should have at
> >> >> >> >>>least taken a direct feed though a preamp or direct box on
> >> >> >> >>>another channel, as well.
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>Neil
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
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> >
> >
>i keep meaning to try cat when i'm at the store but images of their
cute little faces prevents me from doing so. now carp........
On Fri, 26 May 2006 14:04:26 -0600, "DJ"
<animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>I doubt a laptop would make a good trolling lure, but would lie nicely on
>the bottom with no sinker required......catfish anyone?
>
>;o)
>
>
>
>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:3uie72t237dn0d9fthvssvc28ogjs86jt3@4ax.com...
>> AAAAANd if it weren't, i would have done this in one post. so there.
>>
>> On Fri, 26 May 2006 11:19:09 -0600, "DJ"
>> <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>
>> >Now think about this uncle Rick..............since I don't have one yet,
>HTF
>> >am I supposed to know what will bite? I've got an old Dell Latitude here
>and
>> >as soon as I get myself a Samsung with solid state HD's, I'll A/B them on
>> >bass and trout and let everyone know.
>> >
>> >
>> >"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >news:h2ee72lrdqdminj3vj84c0is81rg2bi62n@4ax.com...
>> >> so tell me old guru of the deep blue...what'll bite on it?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, 26 May 2006 09:55:48 -0600, "DJ"
>> >> <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Finally I can use my laptop as a fishing lure. It's about time.
>> >> >
>> >> >"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> >news:247e725e3v18cqdt9bth83tcceq16tgguo@4ax.com...
>> >> >> and you can finally play frisbee with a laptop during those...off
>> >> >> hours.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On 27 May 2006 00:35:33 +1000, "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net>
>wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >>
>>
>>>> http://www.informationweek.com/hardwar
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Aaron Allen
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e/showArticle.jhtml?ar ticleID=18810
>1
>> >7
>> >> >67
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >WOW!! Look at the thru-put on this baby.. This is going to change
>> >things
>> >> >> >alot the DAW busines. I fthey can do 32 Gig flash, you know 80 ,
>120,
>> >200
>> >> >> >is right around the corner.
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>>
>Maybe Samsung will make a laptop that smells like dough bait.
;o)
"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:115g72dd7v8h6vlrdndti5a194s74637gt@4ax.com...
> i keep meaning to try cat when i'm at the store but images of their
> cute little faces prevents me from doing so. now carp........
>
> On Fri, 26 May 2006 14:04:26 -0600, "DJ"
> <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>
> >I doubt a laptop would make a good trolling lure, but would lie nicely on
> >the bottom with no sinker required......catfish anyone?
> >
> >;o)
> >
> >
> >
> >"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:3uie72t237dn0d9fthvssvc28ogjs86jt3@4ax.com...
> >> AAAAANd if it weren't, i would have done this in one post. so there.
> >>
> >> On Fri, 26 May 2006 11:19:09 -0600, "DJ"
> >> <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Now think about this uncle Rick..............since I don't have one
yet,
> >HTF
> >> >am I supposed to know what will bite? I've got an old Dell Latitude
here
> >and
> >> >as soon as I get myself a Samsung with solid state HD's, I'll A/B them
on
> >> >bass and trout and let everyone know.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:h2ee72lrdqdminj3vj84c0is81rg2bi62n@4ax.com...
> >> >> so tell me old guru of the deep blue...what'll bite on it?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Fri, 26 May 2006 09:55:48 -0600, "DJ"
> >> >> <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >Finally I can use my laptop as a fishing lure. It's about time.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >news:247e725e3v18cqdt9bth83tcceq16tgguo@4ax.com...
> >> >> >> and you can finally play frisbee with a laptop during those...off
> >> >> >> hours.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On 27 May 2006 00:35:33 +1000, "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net>
> >wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
>
>>>> http://www.informationweek.com/hardware/showArticle.jhtml?ar ticleID=1881
0
> >1
> >> >7
> >> >> >67
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >WOW!! Look at the thru-put on this baby.. This is going to
change
> >> >things
> >> >> >> >alot the DAW busines. I fthey can do 32 Gig flash, you know 80 ,
> >120,
> >> >200
> >> >> >> >is right around the corner.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >
>I hope you don't mind me sharing this with you.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=QW_6iwi1Zs0&search=erwin%20mu sper
Our first hitsingle in the Netherlands when we still had hair.
The guy on Fender rhodes is Erwin Musper who nowadays owns a studio in Cincinnati.
http://www.studiothebambooroom.com/
Shortly I came back in contact with him and we decided to do some new stuff
on
which I'm working now. I guess some relationships never end, no matter the
distance.
Greetings,
AbOh, the guy on LV and drums well...that's me.
"Ab" <ab.vangoor@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
>
>I hope you don't mind me sharing this with you.
> http://youtube.com/watch?v=QW_6iwi1Zs0&search=erwin%20mu sper
>Our first hitsingle in the Netherlands when we still had hair.
>The guy on Fender rhodes is Erwin Musper who nowadays owns a studio in Cincinnati.
>http://www.studiothebambooroom.com/
>Shortly I came back in contact with him and we decided to do some new stuff
>on
>which I'm working now. I guess some relationships never end, no matter the
>distance.
>
>Greetings,
>
>AbDJ,
The SVPCL page 7 of the manual has a schematic and the Transformer Balanced
Line Out is PRE Master and so Master has no effect. The two PreAmp outs
are Post Master though. Also I'm running an Ibanez attack bass with ACTIVE
electronics so that helps I'm sure. I also read that there is a chip replacement
for more gain. E
ven with the active electronics I'm right on the edge of having enough gain
but the tone is totally where I want it. Now I'm not saying the $2000 preamps
won't sound better but that's a whole nother price range and the Sansamp
is a lower priced unit too, but for me this box totally gets me the sound
I need for rock and roll and jazz. I'll investigate the chip mode to get
more output. I also don't remember if I set the Paris Patchbay to -10db
or +4. I'm betting I have it on -10db. I'm using the Preouts though and
I'll try the Balanced Out next. For me there is no comparison with a sansamp
though. For me the sansamp is very uneven in response, very low on output
and really bad tone compared to the SVPCL.
John
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>Keep us posted on the Portico. I've been lusting after one of those, but
>tonight I took the plunge, stuck some rubber feet on the module below it
so
>I wouldn't scratch it and actually inserted the ADL 600 in the top of my
>rack where it can't get scratched top or bottom and it will be stable riding
>the rubber feet on top of the other module without using rack screws. Morgan
>has been kind enough to allow me to demo it for a while and now I'm getting
>blown away by it more and more each day.. Using this exhalted top rack
>position means three things..........
>
>1. It needs (and gets) plenty of ventilation (this is a slant rack so the
>top of any module in this rack is angled downward, nothing covers the top
of
>the module and therefore it has lots of air above it for ventilation..
>2. I'm now gonna be patching it into my bay.
>3. I'm gonna figure out a way to pay for it.
>
>It ain't cheap, but I'm finding it so useful that I think it's going to
be
>it's worth every penny. This thing sounds big and expensive, like my Great
>River MP2-MH sounds big and expensive, though obviously in two different
>ways.
>
>Damned impressive piece of work.
>
>;o)
>
>
>
>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OI.com> wrote in message news:4477f007$1@linux...
>>
>> Well, FWIW, I ended up picking up a SansampBass & ran the
>> signal out through my reamp box (it's the one made by Radial),
>> and did both... Sansamp-ed the track, then reamped it as
>> well... it's MUCH, much better, though still not what I'd
>> consider "killer", it'll definitely work, though. The Sansamp
>> gave it some presence & wooliness that it was lacking, and the
>> reamped track gave it presence and better articulation/clarity,
>> using a Mesa head on the cleanest setting, and running it
>> through a guitar cab with some really tight speakers, then
>> micing it with a TLM-103 through a Neve Portico I also recently
>> snagged. I think it'll all work out fine with a blend of those
>> two tracks.
>>
>> Also tried the new Portico on a soft vocal track with a Claytor
>> Special (the Royer-modded MXL)... jury's still out on that,
>> though - took me about two seconds to yank it & put the mic
>> back through the Chandler TG2 - the Chandler kicked it's ass.
>> Was not really impressed with the Portico for that application.
>> Hard vox tomorrow - we'll see how it does up against the ISA
>> 428, which is what we've been using for the harder-edged stuff
>> on this project.
>>
>> Neil
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>> >OK then.. thanks. I'll probably RTFM tonight. This thing has some very
>> >interesting tone shaping properties. I'm liking what it's doing but it
>> >really needs to be used with either active pickups or, if used with
>passive
>> >pickups, to be output to another device with additional gain staging
>(like
>> a
>> >compressor as John suggested) in order to achieve optimal recording
>levels.
>> >When I first opened it up, I though "o'gawd.......another tweakhead box.
>> >It's gonna' take me forever to dial in anything usable". Wrong. It's
very
>> >easy to snag your basic sound and then contour it to taste. I've got
a
>> >Demeter "H" series opto preamp that is starting to look like it's gonna
>> end
>> >up being the Ampeg's bitch. What I have achieved so far with this is
a
>very
>> >coloured sound, but so is my B15-N and I like that color just fine.
>> >
>> >;o)
>> >
>> >"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>> >news:4477e4ca$1@linux...
>> >> Deej.. it's typical for the master to only run the amp / amp output..
>> >since
>> >> you're into the DI out this is probably a normal operating procedure.
>> That
>> >> keeps the player from jacking gain on the soundman in a live situation
>> >when
>> >> playing volume war with the gtr player. There are some exceptions (SWR
>> >model
>> >> 400 is one) that don't stick to this ruling, but I bet the Ampeg is
on
>> the
>> >> 'standard'.
>> >> Try hitting a DI from the *to the amp* output and I bet the master
>works.
>> >>
>> >> AA
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:4477d24d@linux...
>> >> > Hi John,
>> >> >
>> >> > The Ampeg preamp came in today. It's got some nice (and startlingly
>> >> > obvious)
>> >> > tone shaping possibilities that are very specific to bass. One
>> >> > question.............when I crank the master knob, you'd think I
>would
>> >> > hear
>> >> > a difference in output volume, but nothing is happening. Could be
>that
>> >> > I've
>> >> > got a defective unit.. I'm running the balanced output direct to
a
>Paris
>> >> > A/D
>> >> > converter. Cranking the volume knob completely clockwise gets me
to
>> >> > around -10dB on the Paris meter.
>> >> > It sounds nice, but to be quite honest, I'm using a stock PBass
>(passive
>> >> > pickups) and A/B'ing it with an Avalon 737 and a Presonus ADL 600
and
>> >> > those
>> >> > two preamps are kicking it's ass most seriously in every way. The
ADL
>> is
>> >> > an
>> >> >
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| Re: Paris reacts DIFFERENT under Me opposed to XP ! [message #67648 is a reply to message #67647] |
Thu, 04 May 2006 06:01 |
Dimitrios
Messages: 1056
Registered: August 2005
|
Senior Member |
|
|
absolute monster as a bass DI, even though it doesn't have an EQ.
>Every
>> >> > nuance of the finger touching the string, touching the fret, pulling
>> off
>> >> > the
>> >> > fret is so friggin articulated with this preamp that it's absolutely
>> >sick.
>> >> > This preamp actually picks up my thought patterns, converts them
to
>> >audio
>> >> > and I hear them through the Paris converters as I'm deciding where
to
>> >fret
>> >> > next.
>> >> >
>> >> > Anyway, like I said, maybe I've got a defective Ampeg.
>> >> >
>> >> > Cheers,
>> >> >
>> >> > Deej
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44758e35$1@linux...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> DJ, Also add 3 to 6 db of compression post to get it right in the
>> >> >> pocket.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>> >> >> >I just ordered one of these from MF. I want to A/B it against my
>*go
>> >to*
>> >> >> >bass DI which is an Avalon 737. I'm gonna give it 45 days to
>infatuate
>> >> > me.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >;o)
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >"john" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44735027$1@linux...
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Ymmv but my sansamp was crap tonewise and this Ampeg preamp has
>> >> >> >> totally
>> >> >> >infatuated
>> >> >> >> me. You need to try them but I will never have a sans amp again.
>> >The
>> >> >> >tone
>> >> >> >> to me is totally amateurish and not even at all plus low signal
>> >> >> >> output.
>> >> >> >> How sucky is that?
>> >> >> >> John
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "justcron" <paris@hydrorecords.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >haha no it doesn't
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >And Neil... I dont think thats a good idear...
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >"john" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:4472fa19$1@linux...
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> sans-amp sucks. i sold mine on ebay and bought the Ampeg
>SVPCL
>> >for
>> >> >> >$350
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> used.
>> >> >> >> >> Awesome! The tone is EVEN and LOW where the sansamp is
>neither.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> > http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM04/Content/Ampeg/PR/SVP CL.html
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>>I have a bass track that this band I'm recording is happy
with
>> >> >> >> >>>the sound of, but I personally think sucks... OK, maybe I
>> >> >> >> >>>should say it a different way: "They like it, but I think
they
>> >> >> >> >>>might like it even better if I could improve upon it :D
>> >> >> >> >>>How's that for politically correct? lol
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>>Anyway, I'm thinking about reamping it or maybe Sans-amp-ing
>> it,
>> >> >> >> >>>but here's my question: If I pick up a Bass Sansamp, I know
>the
>> >> >> >> >>>input isn't designed for line-level stuff, so if I run the
>> >> >> >> >>>signal out of a line-level out on my convertors, then through
>> a
>> >> >> >> >>>mic pre that also has a line-level input and also an output
>> >> >> >> >>>level control (of which I have a few), can I just feed a very
>> >> >> >> >>>low level out of the preamp into the Sansamp input, or will
I
>> >> >> >> >>>run into impedance issues with this method?
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>>Reamping's no problem - I can easily rig that up, so if this
>> >> >> >> >>>other option doesn't work, I can always fall back on that,
but
>> >> >> >> >>>for another choice, would a Sansamp box work in this instance?
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>>Problem is "Farty distortion", BTW. It may take a re-tracking
>> >> >> >> >>>with a better input chain than the bass player's Carvin head
>> >> >> >> >>>line-out jack, but I want to at least investigate other
>options
>> >> >> >> >>>first. Worst bass sound I ever permitted to go to track...
>how's
>> >> >> >> >>>that for an achievement? lol Totally my fault, though
-
>> >> >> >> >>>despite the band insisting they liked it, I should have at
>> >> >> >> >>>least taken a direct feed though a preamp or direct box on
>> >> >> >> >>>another channel, as well.
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>>Neil
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>> >> http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>I guess I'm not really a true slut. :-(
"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>DJ,
>
>The SVPCL page 7 of the manual has a schematic and the Transformer Balanced
>Line Out is PRE Master and so Master has no effect. The two PreAmp outs
>are Post Master though. Also I'm running an Ibanez attack bass with ACTIVE
>electronics so that helps I'm sure. I also read that there is a chip replacement
>for more gain. E
>
>ven with the active electronics I'm right on the edge of having enough gain
>but the tone is totally where I want it. Now I'm not saying the $2000 preamps
>won't sound better but that's a whole nother price range and the Sansamp
>is a lower priced unit too, but for me this box totally gets me the sound
>I need for rock and roll and jazz. I'll investigate the chip mode to get
>more output. I also don't remember if I set the Paris Patchbay to -10db
>or +4. I'm betting I have it on -10db. I'm using the Preouts though and
>I'll try the Balanced Out next. For me there is no comparison with a sansamp
>though. For me the sansamp is very uneven in response, very low on output
>and really bad tone compared to the SVPCL.
>
>John
>
>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>Keep us posted on the Portico. I've been lusting after one of those, but
>>tonight I took the plunge, stuck some rubber feet on the module below it
>so
>>I wouldn't scratch it and actually inserted the ADL 600 in the top of my
>>rack where it can't get scratched top or bottom and it will be stable riding
>>the rubber feet on top of the other module without using rack screws. Morgan
>>has been kind enough to allow me to demo it for a while and now I'm getting
>>blown away by it more and more each day.. Using this exhalted top rack
>>position means three things..........
>>
>>1. It needs (and gets) plenty of ventilation (this is a slant rack so the
>>top of any module in this rack is angled downward, nothing covers the top
>of
>>the module and therefore it has lots of air above it for ventilation..
>>2. I'm now gonna be patching it into my bay.
>>3. I'm gonna figure out a way to pay for it.
>>
>>It ain't cheap, but I'm finding it so useful that I think it's going to
>be
>>it's worth every penny. This thing sounds big and expensive, like my Great
>>River MP2-MH sounds big and expensive, though obviously in two different
>>ways.
>>
>>Damned impressive piece of work.
>>
>>;o)
>>
>>
>>
>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OI.com> wrote in message news:4477f007$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Well, FWIW, I ended up picking up a SansampBass & ran the
>>> signal out through my reamp box (it's the one made by Radial),
>>> and did both... Sansamp-ed the track, then reamped it as
>>> well... it's MUCH, much better, though still not what I'd
>>> consider "killer", it'll definitely work, though. The Sansamp
>>> gave it some presence & wooliness that it was lacking, and the
>>> reamped track gave it presence and better articulation/clarity,
>>> using a Mesa head on the cleanest setting, and running it
>>> through a guitar cab with some really tight speakers, then
>>> micing it with a TLM-103 through a Neve Portico I also recently
>>> snagged. I think it'll all work out fine with a blend of those
>>> two tracks.
>>>
>>> Also tried the new Portico on a soft vocal track with a Claytor
>>> Special (the Royer-modded MXL)... jury's still out on that,
>>> though - took me about two seconds to yank it & put the mic
>>> back through the Chandler TG2 - the Chandler kicked it's ass.
>>> Was not really impressed with the Portico for that application.
>>> Hard vox tomorrow - we'll see how it does up against the ISA
>>> 428, which is what we've been using for the harder-edged stuff
>>> on this project.
>>>
>>> Neil
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>> >OK then.. thanks. I'll probably RTFM tonight. This thing has some very
>>> >interesting tone shaping properties. I'm liking what it's doing but
it
>>> >really needs to be used with either active pickups or, if used with
>>passive
>>> >pickups, to be output to another device with additional gain staging
>>(like
>>> a
>>> >compressor as John suggested) in order to achieve optimal recording
>>levels.
>>> >When I first opened it up, I though "o'gawd.......another tweakhead
box.
>>> >It's gonna' take me forever to dial in anything usable". Wrong. It's
>very
>>> >easy to snag your basic sound and then contour it to taste. I've got
>a
>>> >Demeter "H" series opto preamp that is starting to look like it's gonna
>>> end
>>> >up being the Ampeg's bitch. What I have achieved so far with this is
>a
>>very
>>> >coloured sound, but so is my B15-N and I like that color just fine.
>>> >
>>> >;o)
>>> >
>>> >"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>> >news:4477e4ca$1@linux...
>>> >> Deej.. it's typical for the master to only run the amp / amp output..
>>> >since
>>> >> you're into the DI out this is probably a normal operating procedure.
>>> That
>>> >> keeps the player from jacking gain on the soundman in a live situation
>>> >when
>>> >> playing volume war with the gtr player. There are some exceptions
(SWR
>>> >model
>>> >> 400 is one) that don't stick to this ruling, but I bet the Ampeg is
>on
>>> the
>>> >> 'standard'.
>>> >> Try hitting a DI from the *to the amp* output and I bet the master
>>works.
>>> >>
>>> >> AA
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>>> >> news:4477d24d@linux...
>>> >> > Hi John,
>>> >> >
>>> >> > The Ampeg preamp came in today. It's got some nice (and startlingly
>>> >> > obvious)
>>> >> > tone shaping possibilities that are very specific to bass. One
>>> >> > question.............when I crank the master knob, you'd think I
>>would
>>> >> > hear
>>> >> > a difference in output volume, but nothing is happening. Could be
>>that
>>> >> > I've
>>> >> > got a defective unit.. I'm running the balanced output direct to
>a
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| Re: Paris reacts DIFFERENT under Me opposed to XP ! [message #67649 is a reply to message #67648] |
Thu, 04 May 2006 06:17 |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
|
Senior Member |
|
|
>>Paris
>>> >> > A/D
>>> >> > converter. Cranking the volume knob completely clockwise gets me
>to
>>> >> > around -10dB on the Paris meter.
>>> >> > It sounds nice, but to be quite honest, I'm using a stock PBass
>>(passive
>>> >> > pickups) and A/B'ing it with an Avalon 737 and a Presonus ADL 600
>and
>>> >> > those
>>> >> > two preamps are kicking it's ass most seriously in every way. The
>ADL
>>> is
>>> >> > an
>>> >> > absolute monster as a bass DI, even though it doesn't have an EQ.
>>Every
>>> >> > nuance of the finger touching the string, touching the fret, pulling
>>> off
>>> >> > the
>>> >> > fret is so friggin articulated with this preamp that it's absolutely
>>> >sick.
>>> >> > This preamp actually picks up my thought patterns, converts them
>to
>>> >audio
>>> >> > and I hear them through the Paris converters as I'm deciding where
>to
>>> >fret
>>> >> > next.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Anyway, like I said, maybe I've got a defective Ampeg.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Cheers,
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Deej
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44758e35$1@linux...
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> DJ, Also add 3 to 6 db of compression post to get it right in
the
>>> >> >> pocket.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>> >> >> >I just ordered one of these from MF. I want to A/B it against
my
>>*go
>>> >to*
>>> >> >> >bass DI which is an Avalon 737. I'm gonna give it 45 days to
>>infatuate
>>> >> > me.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >;o)
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >"john" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44735027$1@linux...
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> Ymmv but my sansamp was crap tonewise and this Ampeg preamp
has
>>> >> >> >> totally
>>> >> >> >infatuated
>>> >> >> >> me. You need to try them but I will never have a sans amp again.
>>> >The
>>> >> >> >tone
>>> >> >> >> to me is totally amateurish and not even at all plus low signal
>>> >> >> >> output.
>>> >> >> >> How sucky is that?
>>> >> >> >> John
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> "justcron" <paris@hydrorecords.com> wrote:
>>> >> >> >> >haha no it doesn't
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >And Neil... I dont think thats a good idear...
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >"john" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:4472fa19$1@linux...
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> sans-amp sucks. i sold mine on ebay and bought the Ampeg
>>SVPCL
>>> >for
>>> >> >> >$350
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> used.
>>> >> >> >> >> Awesome! The tone is EVEN and LOW where the sansamp is
>>neither.
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> > http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM04/Content/Ampeg/PR/SVP CL.html
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>> >> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >> >>>I have a bass track that this band I'm recording is happy
>with
>>> >> >> >> >>>the sound of, but I personally think sucks... OK, maybe I
>>> >> >> >> >>>should say it a different way: "They like it, but I think
>they
>>> >> >> >> >>>might like it even better if I could improve upon it :D
>>> >> >> >> >>>How's that for politically correct? lol
>>> >> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >> >>>Anyway, I'm thinking about reamping it or maybe Sans-amp-ing
>>> it,
>>> >> >> >> >>>but here's my question: If I pick up a Bass Sansamp, I know
>>the
>>> >> >> >> >>>input isn't designed for line-level stuff, so if I run the
>>> >> >> >> >>>signal out of a line-level out on my convertors, then through
>>> a
>>> >> >> >> >>>mic pre that also has a line-level input and also an output
>>> >> >> >> >>>level control (of which I have a few), can I just feed a
very
>>> >> >> >> >>>low level out of the preamp into the Sansamp input, or will
>I
>>> >> >> >> >>>run into impedance issues with this method?
>>> >> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >> >>>Reamping's no problem - I can easily rig that up, so if this
>>> >> >> >> >>>other option doesn't work, I can always fall back on that,
>but
>>> >> >> >> >>>for another choice, would a Sansamp box work in this instance?
>>> >> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >> >>>Problem is "Farty distortion", BTW. It may take a re-tracking
>>> >> >> >> >>>with a better input chain than the bass player's Carvin head
>>> >> >> >> >>>line-out jack, but I want to at least investigate other
>>options
>>> >> >> >> >>>first. Worst bass sound I ever permitted to go to track...
>>how's
>>> >> >> >> >>>that for an achievement? lol Totally my fault, though
>-
>>> >> >> >> >>>despite the band insisting they liked it, I should have at
>>> >> >> >> >>>least taken a direct feed though a preamp or direct box on
>>> >> >> >> >>>another channel, as well.
>>> >> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >> >>>Neil
>>> >> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>> >> http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>
>>
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>For me the sansamp is very uneven in response, very low on
>output and really bad tone compared to the SVPCL.
For the first time using the Sansamp, I didn't find it to be
necessarily uneven in response - I think it interprets dynamics
more "dynamically" than, let's say, a straight-ahead direct
box, or perhaps the Ampeg you're referring to, but in this
case, that seemed to be a big benefit. I used it with the blend
setting set all the way on the processed side (figuring if I
wanted any of the original sound, I could just bring up the
original track), so I'm sure that makes some kind of
difference, as well. Add just a little drive to bring in some
constant distortion to mask the intermittent distortion that
the Carvin head imparted, and we've now got a completely
useable metal bass track. If the guy's up to re-doing these
parts, I'd still like to seem him do that, just for the sake of
trying to get it to a higher level of quality. Once I played
the re-amped-sansamped tracks for a couple of the guys last
night, their opinion of the original track changed
dramatically... It went from "yeah that's cool, we like that
sound, no don't change it" to: "Yeah, I see what you're saying"
when I pointed out that even though this was better, I felt we
could get better still if we re-did them through something
other than the line-out on that particular bass head.
Anyway, as far as gain goes, there was plenty, and in fact I
had the level on the Sansamp set at maybe an "8" out of "10" to
avoid clipping the inputs - but then I was running out of a
line-level signal & dropping it down to instrument level
through the reamp box, so again, I'm sure that makes a
difference, too. So, I found it to be a pretty useful little
tool for this purpose, and my local Guitar Center drone gave me
a pretty good deal on it ($160, plus an a/c adaptor for another
five bucks), so that doesn't hurt, either. Is it better than
your Ampeg thingy? I doubt it, just on principle LOL but for
what I needed on these tracks, it seems to have worked.
Neil
>>
>>John
>>
>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>>Keep us posted on the Portico. I've been lusting after one of those, but
>>>tonight I took the plunge, stuck some rubber feet on the module below
it
>>so
>>>I wouldn't scratch it and actually inserted the ADL 600 in the top of
my
>>>rack where it can't get scratched top or bottom and it will be stable
riding
>>>the rubber feet on top of the other module without using rack screws.
Morgan
>>>has been kind enough to allow me to demo it for a while and now I'm getting
>>>blown away by it more and more each day.. Using this exhalted top rack
>>>position means three things..........
>>>
>>>1. It needs (and gets) plenty of ventilation (this is a slant rack so
the
>>>top of any module in this rack is angled downward, nothing covers the
top
>>of
>>>the module and therefore it has lots of air above it for ventilation..
>>>2. I'm now gonna be patching it into my bay.
>>>3. I'm gonna figure out a way to pay for it.
>>>
>>>It ain't cheap, but I'm finding it so useful that I think it's going to
>>be
>>>it's worth every penny. This thing sounds big and expensive, like my Great
>>>River MP2-MH sounds big and expensive, though obviously in two different
>>>ways.
>>>
>>>Damned impressive piece of work.
>>>
>>>;o)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OI.com> wrote in message news:4477f007$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Well, FWIW, I ended up picking up a SansampBass & ran the
>>>> signal out through my reamp box (it's the one made by Radial),
>>>> and did both... Sansamp-ed the track, then reamped it as
>>>> well... it's MUCH, much better, though still not what I'd
>>>> consider "killer", it'll definitely work, though. The Sansamp
>>>> gave it some presence & wooliness that it was lacking, and the
>>>> reamped track gave it presence and better articulation/clarity,
>>>> using a Mesa head on the cleanest setting, and running it
>>>> through a guitar cab with some really tight speakers, then
>>>> micing it with a TLM-103 through a Neve Portico I also recently
>>>> snagged. I think it'll all work out fine with a blend of those
>>>> two tracks.
>>>>
>>>> Also tried the new Portico on a soft vocal track with a Claytor
>>>> Special (the Royer-modded MXL)... jury's still out on that,
>>>> though - took me about two seconds to yank it & put the mic
>>>> back through the Chandler TG2 - the Chandler kicked it's ass.
>>>> Was not really impressed with the Portico for that application.
>>>> Hard vox tomorrow - we'll see how it does up against the ISA
>>>> 428, which is what we've been using for the harder-edged stuff
>>>> on this project.
>>>>
>>>> Neil
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>>> >OK then.. thanks. I'll probably RTFM tonight. This thing has some very
>>>> >interesting tone shaping properties. I'm liking what it's doing but
>it
>>>> >really needs to be used with either active pickups or, if used with
>>>passive
>>>> >pickups, to be output to another device with additional gain staging
>>>(like
>>>> a
>>>> >compressor as John suggested) in order to achieve optimal recording
>>>levels.
>>>> >When I first opened it up, I though "o'gawd.......another tweakhead
>box.
>>>> >It's gonna' take me forever to dial in anything usable". Wrong. It's
>>very
>>>> >easy to snag your basic sound and then contour it to taste. I've got
>>a
>>>> >Demeter "H" series opto preamp that is starting to look like it's gonna
>>>> end
>>>> >up being the Ampeg's bitch. What I have achieved so far with this is
>>a
>>>very
>>>> >coloured sound, but so is my B15-N and I like that color just fine.
>>>> >
>>>> >;o)
>>>> >
>>>> >"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>> >news:4477e4ca$1@linux...
>>>> >> Deej.. it's typical for the master to only run the amp / amp output..
>>>> >since
>>>> >> you're into the DI out this is probably a normal operating procedure.
>>>> That
>>>> >> keeps the player from jacking gain on the soundman in a live situation
>>>> >when
>>>> >> playing volume war with the gtr player. There are some exceptions
>(SWR
>>>> >model
>>>> >> 400 is one) that don't stick to this ruling, but I bet the Ampeg
is
>>on
>>>> the
>>>> >> 'standard'.
>>>> >> Try hitting a DI from the *to the amp* output and I bet the master
>>>works.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> AA
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>>>>
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|
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| Re: Paris reacts DIFFERENT under Me opposed to XP ! [message #67650 is a reply to message #67649] |
Thu, 04 May 2006 06:20 |
Dimitrios
Messages: 1056
Registered: August 2005
|
Senior Member |
|
|
; >> news:4477d24d@linux...
>>>> >> > Hi John,
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > The Ampeg preamp came in today. It's got some nice (and startlingly
>>>> >> > obvious)
>>>> >> > tone shaping possibilities that are very specific to bass. One
>>>> >> > question.............when I crank the master knob, you'd think
I
>>>would
>>>> >> > hear
>>>> >> > a difference in output volume, but nothing is happening. Could
be
>>>that
>>>> >> > I've
>>>> >> > got a defective unit.. I'm running the balanced output direct to
>>a
>>>Paris
>>>> >> > A/D
>>>> >> > converter. Cranking the volume knob completely clockwise gets me
>>to
>>>> >> > around -10dB on the Paris meter.
>>>> >> > It sounds nice, but to be quite honest, I'm using a stock PBass
>>>(passive
>>>> >> > pickups) and A/B'ing it with an Avalon 737 and a Presonus ADL 600
>>and
>>>> >> > those
>>>> >> > two preamps are kicking it's ass most seriously in every way. The
>>ADL
>>>> is
>>>> >> > an
>>>> >> > absolute monster as a bass DI, even though it doesn't have an EQ.
>>>Every
>>>> >> > nuance of the finger touching the string, touching the fret, pulling
>>>> off
>>>> >> > the
>>>> >> > fret is so friggin articulated with this preamp that it's absolutely
>>>> >sick.
>>>> >> > This preamp actually picks up my thought patterns, converts them
>>to
>>>> >audio
>>>> >> > and I hear them through the Paris converters as I'm deciding where
>>to
>>>> >fret
>>>> >> > next.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Anyway, like I said, maybe I've got a defective Ampeg.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Cheers,
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Deej
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44758e35$1@linux...
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> DJ, Also add 3 to 6 db of compression post to get it right in
>the
>>>> >> >> pocket.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>>> >> >> >I just ordered one of these from MF. I want to A/B it against
>my
>>>*go
>>>> >to*
>>>> >> >> >bass DI which is an Avalon 737. I'm gonna give it 45 days to
>>>infatuate
>>>> >> > me.
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >;o)
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >"john" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44735027$1@linux...
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> Ymmv but my sansamp was crap tonewise and this Ampeg preamp
>has
>>>> >> >> >> totally
>>>> >> >> >infatuated
>>>> >> >> >> me. You need to try them but I will never have a sans amp
again.
>>>> >The
>>>> >> >> >tone
>>>> >> >> >> to me is totally amateurish and not even at all plus low signal
>>>> >> >> >> output.
>>>> >> >> >> How sucky is that?
>>>> >> >> >> John
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> "justcron" <paris@hydrorecords.com> wrote:
>>>> >> >> >> >haha no it doesn't
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> >And Neil... I dont think thats a good idear...
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> >"john" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:4472fa19$1@linux...
>>>> >> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> >> sans-amp sucks. i sold mine on ebay and bought the Ampeg
>>>SVPCL
>>>> >for
>>>> >> >> >$350
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> >> used.
>>>> >> >> >> >> Awesome! The tone is EVEN and LOW where the sansamp is
>>>neither.
>>>> >> >> >> >>
>>>> > http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM04/Content/Ampeg/PR/SVP CL.html
>>>> >> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> >> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>> >> >> >> >>>
>>>> >> >> >> >>>I have a bass track that this band I'm recording is happy
>>with
>>>> >> >> >> >>>the sound of, but I personally think sucks... OK, maybe
I
>>>> >> >> >> >>>should say it a different way: "They like it, but I think
>>they
>>>> >> >> >> >>>might like it even better if I could improve upon it :D
>>>> >> >> >> >>>How's that for politically correct? lol
>>>> >> >> >> >>>
>>>> >> >> >> >>>Anyway, I'm thinking about reamping it or maybe Sans-amp-ing
>>>> it,
>>>> >> >> >> >>>but here's my question: If I pick up a Bass Sansamp, I know
>>>the
>>>> >> >> >> >>>input isn't designed for line-level stuff, so if I run the
>>>> >> >> >> >>>signal out of a line-level out on my convertors, then through
>>>> a
>>>> >> >> >> >>>mic pre that also has a line-level input and also an output
>>>> >> >> >> >>>level control (of which I have a few), can I just feed a
>very
>>>> >> >> >> >>>low level out of the preamp into the Sansamp input, or will
>>I
>>>> >> >> >> >>>run into impedance issues with this method?
>>>> >> >> >> >>>
>>>> >> >> >> >>>Reamping's no problem - I can easily rig that up, so if
this
>>>> >> >> >> >>>other option doesn't work, I can always fall back on that,
>>but
>>>> >> >> >> >>>for another choice, would a Sansamp box work in this instance?
>>>> >> >> >> >>>
>>>> >> >> >> >>>Problem is "Farty distortion", BTW. It may take a re-tracking
>>>> >> >> >> >>>with a better input chain than the bass player's Carvin
head
>>>> >> >> >> >>>line-out jack, but I want to at least investigate other
>>>options
>>>> >> >> >> >>>first. Worst bass sound I ever permitted to go to track...
>>>how's
>>>> >> >> >> >>>that for an achievement? lol Totally my fault, though
>>-
>>>> >> >> >> >>>despite the band insisting they liked it, I should have
at
>>>> >> >> >> >>>least taken a direct feed though a preamp or direct box
on
>>>> >> >> >> >>>another channel, as well.
>>>> >> >> >> >>>
>>>> >> >> >> >>>Neil
>>>> >> >> >> >>>
>>>> >> >> >> >>>
>>>> >> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>>> >> http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>Yes DC, please do share...!!
"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote in message news:4477dc50$1@linux...
>
> Hey all,
>
> I am discovering some *amazing* stuff trying a multiband
> split/compressor in Paris. THANK YOU to Sakis and Deej for the
> help with this.
>
> More to follow, but I am getting results, on very familiar material
> that are just making me grin from ear to ear...
>
> As soon as I get this live disc out the door I will post the details.
>
> Paris lives!
>
> DC
>Yes you are. Just look again at that giant drum kit that is now sitting in
your wife's living room.
;o)
"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44783479@linux...
>
> I guess I'm not really a true slut. :-(
>
>
> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
> >
> >DJ,
> >
> >The SVPCL page 7 of the manual has a schematic and the Transformer
Balanced
> >Line Out is PRE Master and so Master has no effect. The two PreAmp outs
> >are Post Master though. Also I'm running an Ibanez attack bass with
ACTIVE
> >electronics so that helps I'm sure. I also read that there is a chip
replacement
> >for more gain. E
> >
> >ven with the active electronics I'm right on the edge of having enough
gain
> >but the tone is totally where I want it. Now I'm not saying the $2000
preamps
> >won't sound better but that's a whole nother price range and the Sansamp
> >is a lower priced unit too, but for me this box totally gets me the sound
> >I need for rock and roll and jazz. I'll investigate the chip mode to get
> >more output. I also don't remember if I set the Paris Patchbay to -10db
> >or +4. I'm betting I have it on -10db. I'm using the Preouts though
and
> >I'll try the Balanced Out next. For me there is no comparison with a
sansamp
> >though. For me the sansamp is very uneven in response, very low on
output
> >and really bad tone compared to the SVPCL.
> >
> >John
> >
> >"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >>Keep us posted on the Portico. I've been lusting after one of those, but
> >>tonight I took the plunge, stuck some rubber feet on the module below it
> >so
> >>I wouldn't scratch it and actually inserted the ADL 600 in the top of my
> >>rack where it can't get scratched top or bottom and it will be stable
riding
> >>the rubber feet on top of the other module without using rack screws.
Morgan
> >>has been kind enough to allow me to demo it for a while and now I'm
getting
> >>blown away by it more and more each day.. Using this exhalted top rack
> >>position means three things..........
> >>
> >>1. It needs (and gets) plenty of ventilation (this is a slant rack so
the
> >>top of any module in this rack is angled downward, nothing covers the
top
> >of
> >>the module and therefore it has lots of air above it for ventilation..
> >>2. I'm now gonna be patching it into my bay.
> >>3. I'm gonna figure out a way to pay for it.
> >>
> >>It ain't cheap, but I'm finding it so useful that I think it's going to
> >be
> >>it's worth every penny. This thing sounds big and expensive, like my
Great
> >>River MP2-MH sounds big and expensive, though obviously in two different
> >>ways.
> >>
> >>Damned impressive piece of work.
> >>
> >>;o)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OI.com> wrote in message news:4477f007$1@linux...
> >>>
> >>> Well, FWIW, I ended up picking up a SansampBass & ran the
> >>> signal out through my reamp box (it's the one made by Radial),
> >>> and did both... Sansamp-ed the track, then reamped it as
> >>> well... it's MUCH, much better, though still not what I'd
> >>> consider "killer", it'll definitely work, though. The Sansamp
> >>> gave it some presence & wooliness that it was lacking, and the
> >>> reamped track gave it presence and better articulation/clarity,
> >>> using a Mesa head on the cleanest setting, and running it
> >>> through a guitar cab with some really tight speakers, then
> >>> micing it with a TLM-103 through a Neve Portico I also recently
> >>> snagged. I think it'll all work out fine with a blend of those
> >>> two tracks.
> >>>
> >>> Also tried the new Portico on a soft vocal track with a Claytor
> >>> Special (the Royer-modded MXL)... jury's still out on that,
> >>> though - took me about two seconds to yank it & put the mic
> >>> back through the Chandler TG2 - the Chandler kicked it's ass.
> >>> Was not really impressed with the Portico for that application.
> >>> Hard vox tomorrow - we'll see how it does up against the ISA
> >>> 428, which is what we've been using for the harder-edged stuff
> >>> on this project.
> >>>
> >>> Neil
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >>> >OK then.. thanks. I'll probably RTFM tonight. This thing has some
very
> >>> >interesting tone shaping properties. I'm liking what it's doing but
> it
> >>> >really needs to be used with either active pickups or, if used with
> >>passive
> >>> >pickups, to be output to another device with additional gain staging
> >>(like
> >>> a
> >>> >compressor as John suggested) in order to achieve optimal recording
> >>levels.
> >>> >When I first opened it up, I though "o'gawd.......another tweakhead
> box.
> >>> >It's gonna' take me forever to dial in anything usable". Wrong. It's
> >very
> >>> >easy to snag your basic sound and then contour it to taste. I've got
> >a
> >>> >Demeter "H" series opto preamp that is starting to look like it's
gonna
> >>> end
> >>> >up being the Ampeg's bitch. What I have achieved so far with this is
> >a
> >>very
> >>> >coloured sound, but so is my B15-N and I like that color just fine.
> >>> >
> >>> >;o)
> >>> >
> >>> >"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
> >>> >news:4477e4ca$1@linux...
> >>> >> Deej.. it's typical for the master to only run the amp / amp
output..
> >>> >since
> >>> >> you're into the DI out this is probably a normal operating
procedure.
> >>> That
> >>> >> keeps the player from jacking gain on the soundman in a live
situation
> >>> >when
> >>> >> playing volume war with the gtr player. There are some exceptions
> (SWR
> >>> >model
> >>> >> 400 is one) that don't stick to this ruling, but I bet the Ampeg is
> >on
> >>> the
> >>> >> 'standard'.
> >>> >> Try hitting a DI from the *to the amp* output and I bet the master
> >>works.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> AA
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> &qu
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|
| Re: Paris reacts DIFFERENT under Me opposed to XP ! [message #67651 is a reply to message #67649] |
Thu, 04 May 2006 06:24 |
Dimitrios
Messages: 1056
Registered: August 2005
|
Senior Member |
|
|
ot;DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> >>> >> news:4477d24d@linux...
> >>> >> > Hi John,
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > The Ampeg preamp came in today. It's got some nice (and
startlingly
> >>> >> > obvious)
> >>> >> > tone shaping possibilities that are very specific to bass. One
> >>> >> > question.............when I crank the master knob, you'd think I
> >>would
> >>> >> > hear
> >>> >> > a difference in output volume, but nothing is happening. Could be
> >>that
> >>> >> > I've
> >>> >> > got a defective unit.. I'm running the balanced output direct to
> >a
> >>Paris
> >>> >> > A/D
> >>> >> > converter. Cranking the volume knob completely clockwise gets me
> >to
> >>> >> > around -10dB on the Paris meter.
> >>> >> > It sounds nice, but to be quite honest, I'm using a stock PBass
> >>(passive
> >>> >> > pickups) and A/B'ing it with an Avalon 737 and a Presonus ADL 600
> >and
> >>> >> > those
> >>> >> > two preamps are kicking it's ass most seriously in every way. The
> >ADL
> >>> is
> >>> >> > an
> >>> >> > absolute monster as a bass DI, even though it doesn't have an EQ.
> >>Every
> >>> >> > nuance of the finger touching the string, touching the fret,
pulling
> >>> off
> >>> >> > the
> >>> >> > fret is so friggin articulated with this preamp that it's
absolutely
> >>> >sick.
> >>> >> > This preamp actually picks up my thought patterns, converts them
> >to
> >>> >audio
> >>> >> > and I hear them through the Paris converters as I'm deciding
where
> >to
> >>> >fret
> >>> >> > next.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Anyway, like I said, maybe I've got a defective Ampeg.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Cheers,
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Deej
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44758e35$1@linux...
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> DJ, Also add 3 to 6 db of compression post to get it right in
> the
> >>> >> >> pocket.
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >>> >> >> >I just ordered one of these from MF. I want to A/B it against
> my
> >>*go
> >>> >to*
> >>> >> >> >bass DI which is an Avalon 737. I'm gonna give it 45 days to
> >>infatuate
> >>> >> > me.
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >;o)
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >"john" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44735027$1@linux...
> >>> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> Ymmv but my sansamp was crap tonewise and this Ampeg preamp
> has
> >>> >> >> >> totally
> >>> >> >> >infatuated
> >>> >> >> >> me. You need to try them but I will never have a sans amp
again.
> >>> >The
> >>> >> >> >tone
> >>> >> >> >> to me is totally amateurish and not even at all plus low
signal
> >>> >> >> >> output.
> >>> >> >> >> How sucky is that?
> >>> >> >> >> John
> >>> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> "justcron" <paris@hydrorecords.com> wrote:
> >>> >> >> >> >haha no it doesn't
> >>> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> >And Neil... I dont think thats a good idear...
> >>> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> >"john" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:4472fa19$1@linux...
> >>> >> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> >> sans-amp sucks. i sold mine on ebay and bought the Ampeg
> >>SVPCL
> >>> >for
> >>> >> >> >$350
> >>> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> >> used.
> >>> >> >> >> >> Awesome! The tone is EVEN and LOW where the sansamp is
> >>neither.
> >>> >> >> >> >>
> >>> > http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM04/Content/Ampeg/PR/SVP CL.html
> >>> >> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> >> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
> >>> >> >> >> >>>
> >>> >> >> >> >>>I have a bass track that this band I'm recording is happy
> >with
> >>> >> >> >> >>>the sound of, but I personally think sucks... OK, maybe I
> >>> >> >> >> >>>should say it a different way: "They like it, but I think
> >they
> >>> >> >> >> >>>might like it even better if I could improve upon it :D
> >>> >> >> >> >>>How's that for politically correct? lol
> >>> >> >> >> >>>
> >>> >> >> >> >>>Anyway, I'm thinking about reamping it or maybe
Sans-amp-ing
> >>> it,
> >>> >> >> >> >>>but here's my question: If I pick up a Bass Sansamp, I
know
> >>the
> >>> >> >> >> >>>input isn't designed for line-level stuff, so if I run the
> >>> >> >> >> >>>signal out of a line-level out on my convertors, then
through
> >>> a
> >>> >> >> >> >>>mic pre that also has a line-level input and also an
output
> >>> >> >> >> >>>level control (of which I have a few), can I just feed a
> very
> >>> >> >> >> >>>low level out of the preamp into the Sansamp input, or
will
> >I
> >>> >> >> >> >>>run into impedance issues with this method?
> >>> >> >> >> >>>
> >>> >> >> >> >>>Reamping's no problem - I can easily rig that up, so if
this
> >>> >> >> >> >>>other option doesn't work, I can always fall back on that,
> >but
> >>> >> >> >> >>>for another choice, would a Sansamp box work in this
instance?
> >>> >> >> >> >>>
> >>> >> >> >> >>>Problem is "Farty distortion", BTW. It may take a
re-tracking
> >>> >> >> >> >>>with a better input chain than the bass player's Carvin
head
> >>> >> >> >> >>>line-out jack, but I want to at least investigate other
> >>options
> >>> >> >> >> >>>first. Worst bass sound I ever permitted to go to track...
> >>how's
> >>> >> >> >> >>>that for an achievement? lol Totally my fault, though
> >-
> >>> >> >> >> >>>despite the band insisting they liked it, I should have at
> >>> >> >> >> >>>least taken a direct feed though a preamp or direct box on
> >>> >> >> >> >>>another channel, as well.
> >>> >> >> >> >>>
> >>> >> >> >> >>>Neil
> >>> >> >> >> >>>
> >>> >> >> >> >>>
> >>> >> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> >>> >> http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>Keep us posted on the Portico. I've been lusting after one of
>those
I will... I may play around with it some more today before the
band gets here, if have time after running my usual spate of
Saturday errands. One of the things slotted for this afternoon
is some harmony tracks one one song that the singer's not sure
about intervals & such, so I'm going to have to guide him
through those & in preparation I may throw down some scratch
harmonies (although they won't be very "scratch", they'll have
to be pretty much right on) for him to reference... If I do
have time, I'll use the Portico for these to see how it comes
across with a different mic - it sure didn't compliment the
Claytor-67, that's for sure.
This project is turning out to be a challenge in terms of vocal
tone, because the guy wants a thick sort of character to his
voice, but he rejects the thicker/warmer-sounding signal
chains... when we were auditioning mics & pres, the
warmest/thickest-sounding combinations utilized either the
Claytor-67 or my modded M-147 with the k-67 capsule through
either the Avalon 737 or the Chandler TG2... both mics have a
lot of warmth, for sure, but the modded-147 has more high end &
air, and the Chandler pre has more of than than does the
Avalon. IMO the Kiwi through either of those pres worked really
well for his voice... it was pretty thick, with less "air" than
those two mics, but the combination he went for was a TLM-103
through the ISA 428 for the harder-edged stuff (he did like the
Claytor/Chandler combo for the softer parts, so that's what
we've been using there). Now, the -103 through the 428 - that's
a pretty clean combination with very little coloration, and the
reason he liked that is that it emphasized the breakup/rasp in
his voice, but it is NOT what I'd consider a really thick-
sounding signal chain. I'm also running the hard-edged takes
through a Distressor in "British Mode" on it's way to track.
So I figured we'll be doubling a lot, in order to thicken things
up, and he actually doubles his parts really well... in fact,
he takes quite a bit of time & is willing to do a bazillion re-
takes if necessary in order to get his main track sounding
right, but once that's done, he can usually double it REALLY
tightly & on-pitch in one take with maybe a couple of punches
at the most.
Here's the interesting part... the guy wants his voice to sound
like Jonathan Davis (of Korn), specifically he's looking for
something like the chorus parts of their song "Coming Undone"...
note that he tells me this AFTER we've done the majority of the
vocals on two of the three songs, and some of the vox on the
3rd song, and are wrapping up for one evening's worth of work.
Keep in mind we've discussed the vocal tone he wants quite at
length, and this is the first time he mentions a specific
example. So I ask him do they have a CD of it, and one
of the guys has it on his iPod, so I listen to it, and yeah,
it's got a nice thickness to it, but it also has a really nice
bit of high-end air....hmmmmm... sounds like one or two of the
signal chains this guy rejected earlier. lol
It's also doubled & tripled & has a metric buttload of
processing on it, but apart from that, I think we would've
nailed it on this guys voice with the Avalon & either the
Claytor-67 or the Modded-147.
So I get online & try to find out who produced and/or engineered
it, and the engineer was Frank Filipetti, so I google his name
together with Korn & "mic" & "vocal" & "preamp" - all the usual
stuff - and I find an interview where he said for lead vox
they usually use a Sanken CU-44x; shit, that's a $2,300 mic - I
can't be buying one of THOSE just for this project, but it's
also not a tube mic.... hmmm..... it also said they used a Tube-
Tech MP1A mic pre and a Neve 1173 for EQ going to track, and an
1176 for compression.
So with several non-tube LDC's to choose from here (although
every voice is different, and I think one of my tube mics
would've gotten this particular guy closer), and with a tube
preamp that also has EQ going to track (the 737), and with
a VERY versatile compressor in the Distressor, I think there's
a pretty good chance that after some dicking around with various
settings, we could've gotten this guy right in the ballpark
going to track - despite not having the exact same signal
chain, having some similar elements therein can often get
you close - if he had just mentioned this specific Korn track
or specific vocal tone earlier. ARRRGH! Now it's going to be a
matter of having to try to get there with plugin's.
NeilHi,
Chuck and other Parisians.
The distortion I get when using evetiter , you know some crackling in the
sound is this ever fixed ?
I have serached the forum and this has been brought up by others too.
Chuck was kind enouph to try to fix it...
Evetiter sounds so fine !!!, I would love to know that this is fixed somehow...
Regards,
Dimitrios>they usually use a Sanken CU-44x; shit, that's a $2,300 mic - I
can't be buying one of THOSE just for this project, but it's
also not a tube mic.... hmmm..... it also said they used a Tube-
Tech MP1A mic pre and a Neve 1173 for EQ going to track, and an
1176 for compression.<
You just need to go out and buy this stuff immediately and quit dickin' with
workarounds man. What's wrong with you dude????
;oP
Seriously though, thanksfor the rundown on what you're doing and trying to
accomplish. Your following comment........
:he tells me this AFTER we've done the majority of the
> vocals on two of the three songs, and some of the vox on the
> 3rd song, and are wrapping up for one evening's worth of work.
> Keep in mind we've discussed the vocal tone he wants quite at
> length, and this is the first time he mentions a specific
> example.
.............is soooo typical of some of the stuff I've experienced lately.
Good luck and keep us posted.
;o)
"Neil" <OIUIO@OIU.com> wrote in message news:44786fca$1@linux...
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>
> >Keep us posted on the Portico. I've been lusting after one of
> >those
>
> I will... I may play around with it some more today before the
> band gets here, if have time after running my usual spate of
> Saturday errands. One of the things slotted for this afternoon
> is some harmony tracks one one song that the singer's not sure
> about intervals & such, so I'm going to have to guide him
> through those & in preparation I may throw down some scratch
> harmonies (although they won't be very "scratch", they'll have
> to be pretty much right on) for him to reference... If I do
> have time, I'll use the Portico for these to see how it comes
> across with a different mic - it sure didn't compliment the
> Claytor-67, that's for sure.
>
> This project is turning out to be a challenge in terms of vocal
> tone, because the guy wants a thick sort of character to his
> voice, but he rejects the thicker/warmer-sounding signal
> chains... when we were auditioning mics & pres, the
> warmest/thickest-sounding combinations utilized either the
> Claytor-67 or my modded M-147 with the k-67 capsule through
> either the Avalon 737 or the Chandler TG2... both mics have a
> lot of warmth, for sure, but the modded-147 has more high end &
> air, and the Chandler pre has more of than than does the
> Avalon. IMO the Kiwi through either of those pres worked really
> well for his voice... it was pretty thick, with less "air" than
> those two mics, but the combination he went for was a TLM-103
> through the ISA 428 for the harder-edged stuff (he did like the
> Claytor/Chandler combo for the softer parts, so that's what
> we've been using there). Now, the -103 th
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rough the 428 - that's
> a pretty clean combination with very little coloration, and the
> reason he liked that is that it emphasized the breakup/rasp in
> his voice, but it is NOT what I'd consider a really thick-
> sounding signal chain. I'm also running the hard-edged takes
> through a Distressor in "British Mode" on it's way to track.
>
> So I figured we'll be doubling a lot, in order to thicken things
> up, and he actually doubles his parts really well... in fact,
> he takes quite a bit of time & is willing to do a bazillion re-
> takes if necessary in order to get his main track sounding
> right, but once that's done, he can usually double it REALLY
> tightly & on-pitch in one take with maybe a couple of punches
> at the most.
>
> Here's the interesting part... the guy wants his voice to sound
> like Jonathan Davis (of Korn), specifically he's looking for
> something like the chorus parts of their song "Coming Undone"...
> note that he tells me this AFTER we've done the majority of the
> vocals on two of the three songs, and some of the vox on the
> 3rd song, and are wrapping up for one evening's worth of work.
> Keep in mind we've discussed the vocal tone he wants quite at
> length, and this is the first time he mentions a specific
> example. So I ask him do they have a CD of it, and one
> of the guys has it on his iPod, so I listen to it, and yeah,
> it's got a nice thickness to it, but it also has a really nice
> bit of high-end air....hmmmmm... sounds like one or two of the
> signal chains this guy rejected earlier. lol
> It's also doubled & tripled & has a metric buttload of
> processing on it, but apart from that, I think we would've
> nailed it on this guys voice with the Avalon & either the
> Claytor-67 or the Modded-147.
>
> So I get online & try to find out who produced and/or engineered
> it, and the engineer was Frank Filipetti, so I google his name
> together with Korn & "mic" & "vocal" & "preamp" - all the usual
> stuff - and I find an interview where he said for lead vox
> they usually use a Sanken CU-44x; shit, that's a $2,300 mic - I
> can't be buying one of THOSE just for this project, but it's
> also not a tube mic.... hmmm..... it also said they used a Tube-
> Tech MP1A mic pre and a Neve 1173 for EQ going to track, and an
> 1176 for compression.
>
> So with several non-tube LDC's to choose from here (although
> every voice is different, and I think one of my tube mics
> would've gotten this particular guy closer), and with a tube
> preamp that also has EQ going to track (the 737), and with
> a VERY versatile compressor in the Distressor, I think there's
> a pretty good chance that after some dicking around with various
> settings, we could've gotten this guy right in the ballpark
> going to track - despite not having the exact same signal
> chain, having some similar elements therein can often get
> you close - if he had just mentioned this specific Korn track
> or specific vocal tone earlier. ARRRGH! Now it's going to be a
> matter of having to try to get there with plugin's.
>
> NeilThis is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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Neil,
Try the Sansamp...
Tom
"Neil" <OIUIO@OIU.com> wrote in message news:44786fca$1@linux...
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>Keep us posted on the Portico. I've been lusting after one of=20
>those
I will... I may play around with it some more today before the
band gets here, if have time after running my usual spate of
Saturday errands. One of the things slotted for this afternoon
is some harmony tracks one one song that the singer's not sure
about intervals & such, so I'm going to have to guide him
through those & in preparation I may throw down some scratch
harmonies (although they won't be very "scratch", they'll have
to be pretty much right on) for him to reference... If I do
have time, I'll use the Portico for these to see how it comes
across with a different mic - it sure didn't compliment the
Claytor-67, that's for sure.
This project is turning out to be a challenge in terms of vocal
tone, because the guy wants a thick sort of character to his
voice, but he rejects the thicker/warmer-sounding signal
chains... when we were auditioning mics & pres, the
warmest/thickest-sounding combinations utilized either the
Claytor-67 or my modded M-147 with the k-67 capsule through
either the Avalon 737 or the Chandler TG2... both mics have a
lot of warmth, for sure, but the modded-147 has more high end &
air, and the Chandler pre has more of than than does the
Avalon. IMO the Kiwi through either of those pres worked really
well for his voice... it was pretty thick, with less "air" than
those two mics, but the combination he went for was a TLM-103
through the ISA 428 for the harder-edged stuff (he did like the
Claytor/Chandler combo for the softer parts, so that's what
we've been using there). Now, the -103 through the 428 - that's
a pretty clean combination with very little coloration, and the
reason he liked that is that it emphasized the breakup/rasp in
his voice, but it is NOT what I'd consider a really thick-
sounding signal chain. I'm also running the hard-edged takes
through a Distressor in "British Mode" on it's way to track.
So I figured we'll be doubling a lot, in order to thicken things
up, and he actually doubles his parts really well... in fact,
he takes quite a bit of time & is willing to do a bazillion re-
takes if necessary in order to get his main track sounding
right, but once that's done, he can usually double it REALLY
tightly & on-pitch in one take with maybe a couple of punches
at the most.=20
Here's the interesting part... the guy wants his voice to sound
like Jonathan Davis (of Korn), specifically he's looking for
something like the chorus parts of their song "Coming Undone"...
note that he tells me this AFTER we've done the majority of the
vocals on two of the three songs, and some of the vox on the
3rd song, and are wrapping up for one evening's worth of work.
Keep in mind we've discussed the vocal tone he wants quite at
length, and this is the first time he mentions a specific
example. So I ask him do they have a CD of it, and one
of the guys has it on his iPod, so I listen to it, and yeah,
it's got a nice thickness to it, but it also has a really nice
bit of high-end air....hmmmmm... sounds like one or two of the
signal chains this guy rejected earlier. lol
It's also doubled & tripled & has a metric buttload of
processing on it, but apart from that, I think we would've
nailed it on this guys voice with the Avalon & either the
Claytor-67 or the Modded-147.
So I get online & try to find out who produced and/or engineered
it, and the engineer was Frank Filipetti, so I google his name
together with Korn & "mic" & "vocal" & "preamp" - all the usual
stuff - and I find an interview where he said for lead vox
they usually use a Sanken CU-44x; shit, that's a $2,300 mic - I
can't be buying one of THOSE just for this project, but it's
also not a tube mic.... hmmm..... it also said they used a Tube-
Tech MP1A mic pre and a Neve 1173 for EQ going to track, and an
1176 for compression.
So with several non-tube LDC's to choose from here (although
every voice is different, and I think one of my tube mics
would've gotten this particular guy closer), and with a tube
preamp that also has EQ going to track (the 737), and with
a VERY versatile compressor in the Distressor, I think there's
a pretty good chance that after some dicking around with various
settings, we could've gotten this guy right in the ballpark
going to track - despite not having the exact same signal
chain, having some similar elements therein can often get
you close - if he had just mentioned this specific Korn track
or specific vocal tone earlier. ARRRGH! Now it's going to be a
matter of having to try to get there with plugin's.
Neil
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like that. The older DVD's just seemed too expensive for the amount of data
that can be written to them so I've been backing up to HD for the last few
years. These DVD burners support double layer disks (8G). Just for grins, I
bought a few at Office Depot the other day. These are great and the write
time with these newer Sony drives is much improved compared to the
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echnology available 3 years ago.
DeejDimitrios,
What is confusing about this (and yes, I've been there and done this) is
that if you want to add a second or third UAD-1 plugin, you have to nudge
the track again by all of these incremental amounts, "per track".
Eventually, the sample offset can become noticable and also, if you decide
it's not working for any reason, you have to undo all of this "per track".
It was easy (at least for me) to be working late on a mix and forget to undo
one or two of the nudges. Forgetting this numerous times will eventually
throw the relative sample accuracy of the tracks off and you enter "flam
mode" . It's not a *huge deal because you can always realign the tracks with
a guide track in the editor that is not being processed, but it's time
consuming so being very careful when removing UAD-1 plugins is in order
here.
Cheers,
Deej
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:44787b80$1@linux...
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> Hi to All...
> For those who use FXpansion3 and nudge with their audio tracks you can use
> the following nudge and ommit the sampleslide plugin ...
>
> 3x 100 (3x 4480 =13440)
> 1x 50 (1x 2240 = 2240)
> 1x 10 (1x 480 = 480)
> 1x 5 (1x 240 = 240)
>
> So the total is 13440+2240+480+240= 16400
> That is 17 samples away from 16383 for normal UAD1 plug and only 4 samples
> for a Pultec Uad1 plugin
>
> Even 17 samples is not much for a latency to need sampleslide because you
> can nudge ALL your drumtracks (the ones not using actually a UAD1 plugin
> with UAD plugin compensator)
>
> Hope this will help even someone out there...
> Regards,
> DimitriosHey DJ,
Could you post (probably for the umpteenth time!) your setup that allows
for real time processing of VST FX using Paris? Am I correct in understanding
that you're running UAD-1 FX w/ no latency while mixing in Paris? Could
I run the Waves IR reverb in real time w/ Paris this way?
Thanks!
Gantt
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>BTW, this would be an awesome rig to use as a standalone processor, similar
>to the way I'm patching Paris tracks through Cubase SX channels. Depending
>on the number of ADAT channels, you could process Paris tracks with TDM
>plugins in real time during mixdown.
>
>Muhahahahah!!!!!!!
>
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>"Sanbar" <sanbar@wi.rr.com> wrote in message news:447783c0@linux...
>> I saw this gear for $900. Is it worth it.
>>
>> 1- 888 Digi 8 in 8 out rack
>> 1- 882 digi 8 in 8 out rack
>> 1- digi adat bridge
>> 1- Digi 11 space expansion rack
>> 5- Mix Farm Cards
>> 1- lexicon nuverb
>> 1- waves bundle
>> 1- 18 gig drive
>> 1- 2 gig drive
>> 1- 4 gig drive
>> 1- orb drive with 6 disks
>> 2- digi input cards
>> 1- mac powerpc computer with mouse and keyboard
>> *all cables included
>> *all manuals for everthing *plus all install disks for everything
>> *also included 3 pro tools and one DVD instruction and help books
>>
>>
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>I want to build some WC cables of equal length. Thje intital run from my
master clock to the distro module is 4 meters so the remaining 9 cables I
need to build (8 more WC cables and one AES cable) will need to be 4 meters
also. I can't afford the premade Zoalla or Apogee stuff. I'm looking for raw
75 ohm (and 110 ohm) cable of the highest quality I can afford with the best
connectors I can afford. I don't want my square waves even thinking about
turning into triangle waves due to high capacitance.
I know Canare is good stuff. I have some 110 ohm Mogami here. What would
youse guys suggest for the lowest capacitance?
Thanks,
DeejHi,
Pulsar as I posted before is an exceptional dsp system.
Except f
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or the best synths around (Moogs,Prophets,etc) it is a hell of a
PROCESSING ENVIRONEMENT
Now a new company has produced new plugz for these beasts.
Hold your breath
SSL9000
Neve1084
Pultec
API 550
RMX-16 (AMS reverb !!!)
and an exceptional mastering dynamic EQ that hard to believe what it can
do to your mixes.
Only pros could have access to beats like these !
Also BSS dynamic 4 channel eq/dymanics emulator also announced.
Still with me ?
wHAT IS THE MOST INTERESTING THE PRICES WILL BE LOW BALLERS !!
Imagine something around 60-70 $ each main plugin and a bundle with get them
all like 500 $ or something,prices yet to be anounced.
I have tried most plugins out there , believe me these new ones are dream
come true for me...
Note that already there is Vinco (1176 comp emulation).
Tons of free ones.
I would not scream so loud so many times but PaRIS users with adat in/outs
are "oblidged" to take this route.
Ok UAD1 are already there but a Pulsar card with 6 dsps and all main plugins
cost used around 400-500-600 $
So with normal classic option you will have 16 adat ins and outs plus a spdif
in and out plus 2 analog 24/96 in and out plus two (32) midi ins/outs
Now consider the above new plugins buy addon and for around 1000 $-1100$
you will have a tremendous resource of fantastic sounding plugins.
If you here their pultec or NEve 1084 eq you will stop using the nice Paris
eq...
Well you would need at least one mec and one adat card or best two mecs two
adat cards , or one mec two adat cards under Me (win98)
Now if you would want to add more adat ins/outs to your system like DJ wants
(me too) you can buy another two Pulsar cards (your plugins are already bought)
which leads to another 1000 $ to have full three pulsar cards with 18 dsp
chips !!! and be happy as I am...
well there is the "Kingsize" option.
there are also super Pulsar cards out there each having 15 dsp chips !!!
In outs are the sam
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ll need to buy an appropriate crimp tool to
attach the ends. Proper 75Ohm ends can not be soldered... only
crimped. I have some 25' runs of this feeding the Paris and Nuendo
computers, and several other devices with no trouble. The DA202 is a
really nice 110 Ohm AES cable that fits well into XLR plugs. Note...
use Switchcraft XLR connectors for AES signals... the standard Neutrik
plugs mess with the impedance somewhat.
David.
DJ wrote:
> I want to build some WC cables of equal length. Thje intital run from my
> master clock to the distro module is 4 meters so the remaining 9 cables I
> need to build (8 more WC cables and one AES cable) will need to be 4 meters
> also. I can't afford the premade Zoalla or Apogee stuff. I'm looking for raw
> 75 ohm (and 110 ohm) cable of the highest quality I can afford with the best
> connectors I can afford. I don't want my square waves even thinking about
> turning into triangle waves due to high capacitance.
>
> I know Canare is good stuff. I have some 110 ohm Mogami here. What would
> youse guys suggest for the lowest capacitance?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Deej
> <
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>I would like to hear more Dimitrios .... do they play in XP, share IRQ's
happily, what is the support route, newsgroups, resources, etc...
What kind of latency does the card exhibit using the adat from paris and
back?
AA
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:44788b63$1@linux...
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> Hi,
> Pulsar as I posted before is an exceptional dsp system.
> Except for the best synths around (Moogs,Prophets,etc) it is a hell of a
> PROCESSING ENVIRONEMENT
> Now a new company has produced new plugz for these beasts.
> Hold your breath
> SSL9000
> Neve1084
> Pultec
> API 550
> RMX-16 (AMS reverb !!!)
> and an exceptional mastering dynamic EQ that hard to believe what it can
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> do to your mixes.
> Only pros could have access to beats like these !
>
> Also BSS dynamic 4 channel eq/dymanics emulator also announced.
> Still with me ?
>
> wHAT IS THE MOST INTERESTING THE PRICES WILL BE LOW BALLERS !!
> Imagine something around 60-70 $ each main plugin and a bundle with get
> them
> all like 500 $ or something,prices yet to be anounced.
>
> I have tried most plugins out there , believe me these new ones are dream
> come true for me...
>
> Note that already there
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John [1]
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is Vinco (1176 comp emulation).
>
> Tons of free ones.
>
> I would not scream so loud so many times but PaRIS users with adat in/outs
> are "oblidged" to take this route.
> Ok UAD1 are already there but a Pulsar card with 6 dsps and all main
> plugins
> cost used around 400-500-600 $
> So with normal classic option you will have 16 adat ins and outs plus a
> spdif
> in and out plus 2 analog 24/96 in and out plus two (32) midi ins/outs
>
> Now consider the above new plugins buy addon and for around 1000 $-1100$
> you will have a tremendous resource of fantastic sounding plugins.
> If you here their pultec or NEve 1084 eq you will stop using the nice
> Paris
> eq...
>
> Well you would need at least one mec and one adat card or best two mecs
&g
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Thu, 04 May 2006 09:52 |
Deej [1]
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t; two
> adat cards , or one mec two adat cards under Me (win98)
>
> Now if you would want to add more adat ins/outs to your system like DJ
> wants
> (me too) you can buy another two Pulsar cards (your plugins are already
> bought)
> which leads to another 1000 $ to have full three pulsar cards with 18 dsp
> chips !!! and be happy as I am...
>
> well there is the "Kingsize" option.
> there are also super Pulsar cards out there each having 15 dsp chips !!!
> In outs are the same, each card can be bought for around 900$-1000-1100$
> used and with three cards you can have 45 dsps !!!!!!!
> Ok back to reality...
>
> One Pulsar card with 6 dsps is adequate for mixing a song and using some
> great plugins as I mentioned.
> The same card can be configured for a synth recording platforma...
>
> I am happy to say more if I see anyone interested...
>
> Regards,
> Dimitrios
>
I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
http://www.polesoft.com/refer.htmlI forgot to mention that since I'm a Mac guy I'd probably try to do this using
PT LE or Digital Performer. I have a Digi 002 and a MOTU 2408, but I think
the 2408 w/ the PCI 324 card introduces some latency.
Gantt
"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
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>Hey DJ,
>
>Could you post (probably for the umpteenth time!) your setup that allows
>for real time processing of VST FX using Paris? Am I correct in understanding
>that you're running UAD-1 FX w/ no latency while mixing in Paris? Could
>I run the Waves IR reverb in real t
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Deej [1]
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ime w/ Paris this way?
>
>Thanks!
>
>Gantt
>
>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>BTW, this would be an awesome rig to use as a standalone processor, similar
>>to the way I'm patching Paris tracks through Cubase SX channels. Depending
>>on the number of ADAT channels, you could process Paris tracks with TDM
>>plugins in real time during mixdown.
>>
>>Muhahahahah!!!!!!!
>>
>>
>>"Sanbar" <sanbar@wi.rr.com> wrote in message news:447783c0@linux...
>>> I saw this gear for $900. Is it worth it.
>>>
>>> 1- 888 Digi 8 in 8 out rack
>>> 1- 882 digi 8 in 8 out rack
>>> 1- digi adat bridge
>>> 1- Digi 11 space expansion rack
>>> 5- Mix Farm Cards
>>> 1- lexicon nuverb
>>> 1- waves bundle
>>> 1- 18 gig drive
>>> 1- 2 gig drive
>>> 1- 4 gig drive
>>> 1- orb drive with 6 disks
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>>> 2- digi input cards
>>> 1- mac powerpc computer with mouse and keyboard
>>> *all cables included
>>> *all manuals for everthing *plus all install disks for everything
>>> *also included 3 pro tools and one DVD instruction and help books
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>To use Cubase SX as a standalone processor for applying VST plugins to Paris
individual track inserts and auxes (requires powerful computer)
Make sure both systems are using a common clock.
In the Control Panel of your native audio interface , set the latency to
1.5ms.
Physically patch the Cubase ADAT I/O to the ADAT I/O of the audio device you
are using with Cubase SX. Check the control panel of you audio hardware and
make sure the I/O are sync'ed up.
Set up a matrix in the Paris patchbay where you are sen
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ding and returning
whatever tracks you want to process via ADAT on the insert module.
Set insert on the Paris mixer channel to external.
In Cubase, create a corresponding number of audio tracks.
In Cubase > VST connections>create mono input and output busses that
correspond to the ADAT I/O of your audio interface that is connected to the
Paris ADAT I/O
Insert the VST processor you want to use on the audio track in Cubase
Click on the little "speaker" icon on the Cubase audio channel so you are
monitoring with effects.
Hit the Play button on Paris. The audio will be processed in Cubase Sx and
returned to Paris.
The plugin delay compensation works very well at 1.5ms under this scenario,
allowing you to play back tracks in Paris that aren't being processed in
Cubase with tracks that are.
Watch your channel levels in Paris. In an insert send/return scenario, a hot
track being sent from Paris can clip the bejeezus out of a UAD-1 plugin in
Cubase SX so be careful.
There is another scenario which I use in which I import all of the tracks
into Cubase SX and then just return them to Paris while being processed on
both systems. This takes more time to set up, but if you enjoy the Cubase
editing capabilities, this is the way to go.
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Mono and stereo VST effects in Cubase FX on Paris auxes
1. Physically patch a pair the I/O of the audio interface you are using wit
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Cubase to a pair of Paris I/O
2. Route these Paris I/O to an aux in the Paris patchbay and assign this aux
to a track (or tracks) in Paris.
3. In Cubase > VST connections>make sure the I/O of the card being used with
Cubase are set up as mono or stereo input and outputs
4. In Cubase > VST connections>Group/FX>Add/FX and choose the effect you
want on that FX channel
(at this point, if you want the effect centerpanned, you can just use it as
a send effect on a Cubase mono or stereo audio track)
5. In Cubase > VST connections>Group/FX>Add/Group
6. In the Cubase project window go to the Group Channel, rename it with the
name of the Paris aux it is using and assign it to the mono or stereo bus
that is connected to the Paris aux.
7. In order to process across Paris submixes with a single hardware
processor by routing an external hardware effect from Cubase to the Paris
Aux channel, in the Cubase project window go to the FX channel you created
for this hardware processor and insert the external effect on t
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