e same holds true for the > > Aux buses. > > > > As for CEP... I thought is only had the capability to record two tracks at > > once??? Double check this, but I am positive it can only accept two. > > > > I'll be at the studio in the morning if you are still stuck. I would call > > now, but it's after midnight now on your end. > > > > David. > > > > > > Don Nafe wrote: > >> I'm trying to route the individual PAris tracks 1-8 to CEPro... > >> > >> ADAT is in slot 1 input and slot 1 output... > >> > >> MEC module A is in the patchfield as is the Master, Mixer A and Inserts A > >> > >> Supposedly whatever is on tr 1-8 is normaled to ADAT tr 1-8 in that > >> configuration - Correct? > >> > >> as it stands only Paris Tr 1 & 2 are making it over to CEPro > >> > >> If you'd rather do this real time call me 613 725 3327 collect > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> "
wrote in message > >> news:43dcec1e$1@linux... > >> > >>>Are you trying to route individual tracks, or the whole mix? If it's the > >>>whole mix, simply make sure that the adat module is assigned to one of > >>>the two output slots in the patchbay, then patch from the mixer LR outs > >>>to a pair of channels on the MEC Modules block. Remember, you can't > >>>patch across cards. To assign the adat card, double click on the MEC > >>>modules block in the patchbay window and drag the adat I/O fromm the list > >>>at the right to one of the four "slots" at the left. If the MEC modules > >>>block isn't in the patchbay window, drag it from the list top right onto > >>>the patch field. > >>> > >>>David. > >>> > >>>Don Nafe wrote: > >>> > >>>>1st question > >>>> > >>>>How does one route audio out of the ADAT outs and SPDIF outs (in Paris) > >>>> > >>>>Don > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:43dcc383@linux... > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>Hi All > >>>>> > >>>>>This is all new to me and I need someone to help me get my bearings so > >>>>>If you're still using a Dakota on a second rig could you please contact > >>>>>me so I can ask you a few questions specific to Paris and Dakota > >>>>> > >>>>>Thanks > >>>>> > >>>>>Don > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >> > >Well, the RME-Madi card(s) price don't look too bad for the 64 channels per card. I want to be able to stream 96 channel from the yamaha DM-2000.. So,the Optical way would cost, 4- 9652(s) is almost the same. $2400(9652) vs $2600.00(Madi) EK Sound <spamnot.info&#64
> "Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote in message > news:43dda643$1@linux... > > Hi Don, > > > > Sorry about the delay, was out at Lake Louise for the day... just got back > > in. NOTHING in Paris is normalled... you have to patch everything. There > > are two ways to route individual tracks... through "inserts" and through > > "auxes". If you use the aux sends, you can select external on each aux > > bus and hard pan to get up to 16 sends per MEC. Using inserts, you have > > to patch the inputs of the inserts as well as the outputs... it doesn't > > matter if you are only using them to send sound, you must patch a return > > signal for them to become active. I believe th
-Axcel) with Contol24 mix >> controller, Apogee AD/DA16x..Slew of Plugin (free) from Digi..20K..( Not >> including the Mac.) You don't need a G5 to run PT-HD/TDM.. You can, but not >> a necessity. I have access to a Dual 877 G4 or I might buld a nice PC to >> run it on. For those how have not seen PT-HD?LE run on a PC, they are in >> for a real shock. The speed difference is Amazing!!! >> >> I've been weighing the Yammy 02r96/DM-2000,Nuendo,RME MADI(2) scenario..the >> first coming to 9k for the 02Rm, 18k for the DM2000..Decisions.. :) >> ??????? >> >> >> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote: >> >>>.........errr..........that should have been 96 digital I/O. guess I >>>wouldn't be needing that though with the PT rig, would I? Also, I'm going >> >> to >> >>>need all new software so throw that into the equation for another $5k at >>>least for good TDM plugins. >>> >>>(sigh) >>> >>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message >>>news:43ddb571@linux... >>> >>>>So what would PT system with 32 A/D and D/A converters, 96 I/O and the >>>>processing power of 4 x UAD-1 cards cost? I'm thinking around $30k. Now >>> >>>add >>> >>>>a G5 to that.. Now add a control surface. $40k to achieve what I've >>> >>
s bussing to/from Paris Submix 3, Aux >> >> 1 >> >>>>>>>>interfacing with Paris ADAT I/O #15 and 16. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>The mix template routing between the two work stations is as >>> >>>follows: >>> >>>>>>>>Paris Submix 1-Drums (usually) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Using RME HDSP 9652 Card #1 bussing to Paris Submix 1 and 2 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Cubase CH 1>RME 1 ADAT 1-1 out > Paris CH 1 >>>>>>>>Cubase CH 2>RME 1 ADAT 1-2 out > Paris CH 2 >>>>>>>>Cubase CH 3>RME 1 ADAT 1-3 out > Paris CH 3 >>>>>>>>Cubase CH 4>RME 1 ADAT 1-4 out > Paris CH 4 >>>>>>>>Cubase CH 5>RME 1 ADAT 1-5 out > Paris CH 5 >>>>>>>>Cubase CH 6>RME 1 ADAT 1-6 out > Paris CH 6 >>>>>>>>Cubase CH 7>RME 1 ADAT 1-7 out > Paris CH 7 >>>>>>>>Cubase CH 8>RME 1 ADAT 1-8 out > Paris CH 8 >>>>>>>>Cubase CH 9>RME 1 ADAT 2-9 out > Paris CH 9 >>>>>>>>Cubase CH 10>RME 1 ADAT 2-10 out > Paris CH 10 >>>>>>>>Cubase CH 11>RME 1 ADAT 2-11 out > Paris CH 11 >>>>>>>>Cubase CH 12>RME 1 ADAT 2-12 out > Paris CH 12 >>>>>>>>Cubase CH 13>RME 1 ADAT 2-13 out > Paris CH 13 >>>>>>>>Cubase CH 14>RME 1 ADAT 2-14 out > Paris CH 14 >>>>>>>>Cubase ST CH 15L/ Stereo Group 1 L> RME 1 ADAT 2-15 out > Paris >> >> CH >> >>>15 >>> >>>>>>>>Cubase ST CH 15R/ Stereo Group 1 R> RME 1 ADAT 2-16 out > Paris >> >> CH >> >>>16 >>> >>>>>>>>Paris Submix #2 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Cubase CH 16>RME 1 ADAT 3-17 out > Paris CH 1 >>>>>>>>Cubase CH 17>RME 1 ADAT 3-18 out > Paris CH 2 >>>>>>>>Cubase CH 18>RME 1 ADAT 3-19 out > Paris CH 3 >>>>>>>>Cubase CH 19>RME 1 ADAT 3-20 out > Paris CH 4 >>>>>>>>Cubase CH 20>RME 1 ADAT 3-21 out > Paris CH 5 >>>>>>>>Cubase CH 21>RME 1 ADAT 3-22 out > Paris CH 6 >>>>>>>>Cubase CH 22>RME 1 ADAT 3-23 out > Paris CH 7 >>>>>>>>Cubase CH 23>RME 1 ADAT 3-24 out > Paris CH 8 >>>>>>>> &g
;>>>>the >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>lookahead when using the Paris onboard DSP compressors to avoid >>> >>>phase >>> >>>>>>issues >>>>>> >>>>>>>>(flamming). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>It is possible to achieve a monster drum sound by using both Paris >>> >>>and >>> >>>>>>>>Cubase SX when processing parallel drum submixes sample accurately >>> >>>on >>> >>>>>>both >>>>>> >>>>>>>>platforms. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Paris MEC 2 mixer channels are bussed from RME 9652 #1 ADAT I/O >> >> #3 >> >>>and >>> >>>>>>RME >>>>>> >>>>>>>2 >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>ADAT #1 I/O assigned to audio channels 17-32 and the channels routed >>>>> >>>>>to >>>>> >>>>>>>RME >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>outputs 17-32. and 16 audio tracks are streamed from SX to Paris, >>>> >>>>being >>>> >>>>>>>>processed in both platforms. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Paris MEC 3 mixer channels 1 thru 14 set to bus lightpipe from 14 >>>>>> >>>>>>channels >>>>>> >>>>>>>>playing back in SX on ADAT channels 1-14 routed to RME 9652 #2 ADAT >>>> >>>>!/O >>>> >>>>>>>#2 >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>and RME #2 ADAT I/O #3 assigned to audio channels 33-46.. RME ADAT >>>>>> >>>>>>channels >>>>>> >>>>>>>>47 and 48 are set up as a stereo FX bus for all send FX being >>> >>>applied >>> >>>>>to >>>>> >>>>>>>>tracks in Cubase SX.which i
will do this or not. Much experimenting in your future! Either way, all of this will be easier with external WC. David. Don Nafe wrote: > "EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote in message > news:43de37ac@linux... > . > >>The best results will be obtained by chasing Paris to MTC, rather than >>using Paris as a transport master. This will be especially true once you >>get Nuendo in the fray. >> > > > How's this done? > > Any trick I should be aware of? > > Don > > > > > > > > >>Don Nafe wrote: >> >> >>>Hey Dave >>> >>>Now there's a place I haven't been to in thirty years...must be totally >>>different in the winter. >>> >>>Emailed DJ and got things sorted out...almost a Paris 101 class. >>> >>>What I meant by normalled was the ADAT module's input / output correspond >>>to the in/out of the patchbay slots the ADAT module is assigned >>>too...wrong choice of words. >>> >>>And yes you can record more than two tracks at a time in >>>CEPro...multitrack mode will hand
ote in message >>>>news:43dda643$1@linux... >>>> >>>> >>>>>Hi Don, >>>>> >>>>>Sorry about the delay, was out at Lake Louise for the day... just got >>>>>back in. NOTHING in Paris is normalled... you have to patch >>>>>everything. There are two ways to route individual tracks... through >>>>>"inserts" and through "auxes". If you use the aux sends, you can >>>>>select external on each aux bus and hard pan to get up to 16 sends per >>>>>MEC. Using inserts, you have to patch the inputs of the inserts as >>>>>well as the outputs... it doesn't matter if you are only using them to >>>>>send sound, you must patch a return signal for them to become active. >>>>>I believe the same holds true for the Aux buses. >>>>> >>>>>As for CEP... I thought is only had the capability to record two tracks >>>>>at once??? Double check this, but I am positive it can only accept >>>>>two. >>>>> >>>>>I'll be at the studio in the morning if you are still stuck. I would >>>>>call now, but it's after midnight now on your end. >>>>> >>>>>David. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Don Nafe wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>I'm trying to route the individual PAris tracks 1-8 to CEPro... >>>>>> >>>>>>ADAT is in slot 1 input and slot 1 output... >>>>>> >>>>>>MEC module A is in the patchfield as is the Master, Mixer A and >>>>>>Inserts A >>>>>> >>>>>>Supposedly whatever is on tr 1-8 is normaled to ADAT tr 1-8 in that >>>>>>configuration - Correct? >>>>>> >>>>>>as it stands only Paris Tr 1 & 2 are making it over to CEPro >>>>>> >>>>>>If you'd rather do this real time call me 613 725 3327 collect >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote in message >>>>>>news:43dcec1e$1@linux... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Are you trying to route individual tracks, or the whole mix? If it's >>>>>>>the whole mix, simply make sure that the adat module is assigned to >>>>>>>one of the two output slots in the patchbay, then patch from the >>>>>>>mixer LR outs to a pair of channels on the MEC Modules block. >>>>>>>Remember, you can't patch across cards. To assign the adat card, >>>>>>>double click on the MEC modules block in the patchbay window and drag >>>>>>>the adat I/O fromm the list at the right to one of the four "slots" >>>>>>>at the left. If the MEC modules block isn't in the patchbay window,
;>>> >>>>>>David. >>>>>> >>>>>>Don Nafe wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>1st question >>>>>>> >>>>>>>How does one route audio out of the ADAT outs and SPDIF outs (in >>>>>>>Paris) >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Don >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:43dcc383@linux... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Hi All >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>This is all new to me and I need someone to help me get my bearings >>>>>>>>so If you're still using a Dakota on a second rig could you please >>>>>>>>contact me so I can ask you a few questions specific to Paris and >>>>>>>>Dakota >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Thanks >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Don >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >Got sync happening with Paris as Master using ASIO...identical as Wavelab. Will try your MTC route and see how tha works. Should the business warrant it a wordclock will be on order. Don "EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote in message news:43de52ee@linux... > Have a MIDI interface in both machines, set Paris to chase to incoming MTC > in the se
t-up menu. Hit play on Paris then play in Nuendo. The other > option is adat sync in Nuendo... but I don't know if the Dakota card will > do this or not. Much experimenting in your future! Either way, all of > this will be easier with external WC. > > David. > > Don Nafe wrote: > >> "EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote in message >> news:43de37ac@linux... >> . >> >>>The best results will be obtained by chasing Paris to MTC, rather than >>>using Paris as a transport master. This will be especially true once you >>>get Nuendo in the fray. >>> >> >> >> How's this done? >> >> Any trick I should be aware of? >> >> Don >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>Don Nafe wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Hey Dave >>>> >>>>Now there's a place I haven't been to in thirty years...must be totally >>>>different in the winter. >>>> >>>>Emailed DJ and got things sorted out...almost a Paris 101 class. >>>> >>>>What I meant by normalled was the ADAT module's input / output >>>>correspond to the in/out of the patchbay slots the ADAT module is >>>>assigned too...wrong choice of words. >>>> >>>>And yes you can record more than two tracks at a time in >>>>CEPro...multitrack mode will handle as many inputs as you can throw at >>>>it (well 16 anyway) >>>> >>>>I'm going to attempt to get wavelab working today...my initial attempts >>>>only produced what I can best describe as a lurching in Wavelab when I >>>>hit play in Paris. >>>> >>>>Once it's sorted out I'll be installing Nuendo 2.0 and see if I can get >>>>that to work with Dakota and then sync'd to Paris...gonna be a fun day >>>>or so >>>> >>>>One other thing. I hear there are issues with two ADAT modules in the >>>>same MEC and Windows XP...is this correct >>>> >>>>Thanks >>>> >>>>Don >>>> >>>> >>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wr
gt;>>> >>>>>>>>>The .wavs are imported into a Cubase SX project template for the >>>> >>>>song >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>which >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>has a routing matrix bussing certain tracks to certain busses and >>>> >>>>then >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>bussing the tracks back to Paris for summing as follows: >>>>>>>>>(NOTE: the use of the word MEC /IF2 below refers to various Paris >>>> >>>>I/O >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>interfaces which correlate to 16 track submixes. The system here >>> >>>has >>> >>> >>>>>>3 x >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>16 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>track submix units comprising a total of 48 tracks with a total >>> >>>of >>> >>> >>>>72 >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>digital I/O and 32 analog I/O for various routing configurations) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Paris MEC 1 mixer channels are set to receive lightpipe from Cubase >>>>>> >>>>>>Sx >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>DAW >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>using ADAT channels 1-14 bussed from RME 9652 #1 ADAT I/O 1 & 2 >>>>> >>>>>assigned >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>to >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Cubase SX audio channels 1-16 and Cubase SX audio channels 1-14 >>> >>>each >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>assigned to channels 1-14 outputs. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Cubase SX channels 1-14 (the drums) are duplicated and the >>>> >>>>duplicated >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>drum >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>submix is panned to taste, EQ'ed, individual tracks are processed >>>> >>>>and >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>(usually) bussed to a UAD-1 Fairchild or other UAD compressor then >>>>>>> >>>>>>>returned >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>to Paris submix 1 through the Cubase SX drum submix group- (stereo >>>>> >>>>>audio >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>channel 15 which is using RME ADAT I/O 15 & 16) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>The original mono drum tracks are also fed to insert FX (UAD-1 >>>>>>> >>>>>>>compressors, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>EQ's, etc) and bussed via lightpipe to Paris channels 1 through >>> >>>14 >>> >>> >>>>in >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>submix >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>#1 where the panning of the drum tracks in the SX drum submix is >>>>> &gt
ng >>>> >>>>applied >>>> >>>> >>>>>>to >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>tracks in Cubase SX.which is bussing to/from Paris Submix 3, Aux >>> >>>1 >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>interfacing with Paris ADAT I/O #15 and 16. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>The mix template routing between the two work stations is as >>>> >>>>follows: >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>Paris Submix 1-Drums (usually) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Using RME HDSP 9652 Card #1 bussing to Paris Submix 1 and 2 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Cubase CH 1>RME 1 ADAT 1-1 out > Paris CH 1 >>>>>>>>>Cubase CH 2>RME 1 ADAT 1-2 out > Paris CH 2 >>>>>>>>>Cubase CH 3>RME 1 ADAT 1-3 out > Paris CH 3 >>>>>>>>>Cubase CH 4>RME 1 ADAT 1-4 out > Paris CH 4 >>>>>>>>>Cubase CH 5>RME 1 ADAT 1-5 out > Paris CH 5 >>>>>>>>>Cubase CH 6>RME 1 ADAT 1-6 out > Paris CH 6 >>>>>>>>>Cubase CH 7>RME 1 ADAT 1-7 out > Paris CH 7 >>>>>>>>>Cubase CH 8>RME 1 ADAT 1-8 out > Paris CH 8 >>>>>>>>>Cubase CH 9>RME 1 ADAT 2-9 out > Paris CH 9 >>>>>>>>>Cubase CH 10>RME 1 ADAT 2-10 out > Paris CH 10 >>>>>>>>>Cubase CH 11>RME 1 ADAT 2-11 out > Paris CH 11 >>>>>>>>>Cubase CH 12>RME 1 ADAT 2-12 out > Paris CH 12 >>>>>>>>>Cubase CH 13>RME 1 ADAT 2-13 out > Paris CH 13 >>>>>>>>>Cubase CH 14>RME 1 ADAT 2-14 out > Paris CH 14 >>>>>>>>>Cubase ST CH 15L/ Stereo Group 1 L> RME 1 ADAT 2-15 out > Paris >>> >>>CH >>> >>> >>>>15 >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>Cubase ST CH 15R/ Stereo Group 1 R> RME 1 ADAT 2-16 out > Paris >>> >>>CH >>> >>> >>>>16 >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>Paris Submix #2 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Cubase CH 16>RME 1 ADAT 3-17 out > Paris CH 1 >>>>>>>>>Cubase CH 17>RME 1 ADAT 3-18 out > Paris CH 2 >>>>>>>>>Cubase CH 18>RME 1 ADAT 3-19 out > Paris CH 3 >>>>>>>>>Cubase CH 19>RME 1 ADAT 3-20 out > Paris CH 4 >>>>>>>>>Cubase CH 20>RME 1 ADAT 3-21 out > Paris CH 5 >>>>>>>>>Cubase CH 21>RME 1 ADAT 3-22 out > Paris CH 6 >>>>>>>>>Cubase CH 22>RME 1 ADAT 3-23 out > Paris CH 7 >>>>>>>>>Cubase CH 23>RME 1 ADAT 3-24 out > Paris CH 8 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Using RME HDSP 9652 Card #2 bussing to Paris Submix 2 AND 3 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Cubase CH 24>RME 2 ADAT 1-1 out > Paris CH 9 >>>>>>>>>Cubase CH 25>RME 2 ADAT 1-2 out > Paris CH 10 >>>>>>>>>Cubase CH 26>RME 2 ADAT 1-3 out > Paris CH 11 >>>>>>>>>Cubase CH 27>RME 2 ADAT 1-4 out > Paris CH 12 >>>>>>>>>Cubase CH 28>RME 2 ADAT 1-5 out > Paris CH 13 >>>>>>>>>Cubase CH 29>RME 2 ADAT 1-6 out > Paris CH 14 >>>>>>>>>Cubase CH 30>RME 2 ADAT 1-7 out > Paris CH 15 >>>>>>>>>Cubase CH 31>RME 2 ADAT 1-8 out > Paris CH 16 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Paris Submix #3 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Cubase CH 32>RME 2 ADAT 2-9 out > Paris CH 1 >>>>>>>>>Cubase CH 33>RME 2 ADAT 2-10 out > Paris CH 2 >>>>>>>>>Cubase CH 34>RME 2 ADAT 2-11 out > Paris CH 3 >>>>>>>>>Cubase CH 35>RME 2 ADAT 2-12 out > Paris CH 4 >>>>>>>>>Cubase CH 36>RME 2 ADAT 2-13 out > Paris CH 5 >>>>>>>>>Cubase CH 37>RME 2 ADAT
gt;>>tracks-UA hit a home run with this emulation) along with track EQ >>>> >>>>and >>>> >>>> >>>>>>the >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>LA-2A, 1176, Fairchild etc. compressiors on mono tracks before they >>>>> >>>>>are >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>streamed back into Paris for summing. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Paris MEC I/O in submixes one, two and three as well as IF2's on >>>> >>>>MECs >>>> >>>> >>>>>>2 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>and >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>3 are set up to route analog FX processors in Paris from the Lexi >>> >>>PC >>> >>> >>>>>>90, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Power Technology DSP/FX card, Sony V77, Sony MU-R201 and POD Pro >>> >>>XT >>> >>> >>>>if >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>needed. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>All panning of tracks and reverbs, delays etc. are done in Paris >>>> >>>>since >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>all >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Cubase SX tracks with the exception of the stereo drum mix are mono >>>>> >>>>>and >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>being lightpiped directly to Paris rather than being sent to stereo >>>>>>> >>>>>>>busses >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>in Cubase SX. (without being assigned to a stereo bus in Cubase, >>> >>>the >>> >>> >>>>>>mono >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>tracks in SX cannot be panned) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>All of this is clocked through a Mytek ADC 24/96 which is feeding >>> >>>a >>> >>> >>>>>Lucid >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>GenX6 module set to distribute word clock (at 10 picoseconds) which >>>>>> >>>>>>is >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>then >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>feeding the 3 x Paris MECs, 2 x HDSP 9652's and the RME Multiface >>>> >>>>and >>>> >>>> >>>>>>the >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Lexicon Studio Core 32 outboard reverb. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>All of the routing scenarios are saved in mix templates on the two >>>>> >>>>>audio >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>DAWs and the digital patchbay control panel in the DAW running >>>>>>> >>>>>>>standalone >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>FX. The Cubase DAW is slaved to the Paris DAW by ADAT sync so the >>>>> >>>>>Paris >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>transport controls both systems, sample accurate, timeline locked. >>>>> >>>>>All >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>it >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>really takes is a few mouse clicks and this entire scenario is >>>>>>>>>working......Simple huh? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>"Jon Jiles" <nope@nono.com> wrote in message >>>> >>>>news:43dd07ea$1@linux... >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>Okay, so I took Deej's advice and for syncing purposes replaced >>> >>>my >>> >>> >>>>>>>Dakota >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>
gt; >>>> > >>>>>>>>Each HRM-16 unit is paired with an Alesis Wedge reverb unit so that > >>>> > >>>>the > >>>> > >>>>>>>>performer can dial in exactly the amount of ambience in the cans > >> > >> to > >> > >>>>>>achieve > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>a comfortable cuemix. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>I have a number of tracking templates set up in Paris and Cubase > >> > >> SX > >> > >>>to > >>> > >>>>>>>>utilize my RME Multiface converters with any of the three Paris > >>>> > >>>>submixes > >>>> > >>>>>>>via > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>lightpipe. Since two om my MECS have an A8iT and A8oT and the third > >>>> > >>>>one > >>>> > >>>>>>>only > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>has ADAT, if I need 16 x I/O on either of the two MECS that have > >>> > >>>only > >>> > >>>>>1 > >>>>> > >>>>>>>x > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>Paris I/O module on them during a tracking session, I can open up > >>> > >>>the > >>> > >>>>>>>>Cubase-to-Paris tracking template on both machines nd then just > >>> > >>>patch > >>> > >>>>>in > >>>>> > >>>>>>>my > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>preamps to the Multiface I/O and it's routed digitally to the > >>>> > >>>>respective > >>>> > >>>>>>>>channels of the Paris mixer. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>Once project is tracked, basic editing done using the Paris editor. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>Audio tracks are then rendered as contiguous 24 bit.paf (Paris Audio > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Files) > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>with starting points at 00:00:00. to a folder in the Paris song > >>>> > >>>>project > >>>> > >>>>>>>>file. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>Batch converion of the the rendered .paf's to .wavs is done in > >>> > >>>Wavelab > >>> > >>>>>>via > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>LAN to DAW running Wavelab and Cubase SX and the converted .wav > >>> > >>>files > >>> > >>>>>are > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>saved to a Cubase SX song project. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>The .wavs are imported into a Cubase SX project template for the > >>> > >>>song > >>> > >>>>>>which > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>has a routing matrix bussing certain tracks to certain busses and > >>> > >>>then > >>> > >>>>>>>>bussing the tracks back to Paris for summing as follows: > >>>>>>>>(NOTE: the use of the word MEC /IF2 below refers to various Paris > >>> > >>>I/O > >>> > >>>>>>>>interfaces which correlate to 16 track submixes. The system here > >> > >> has > >> > >>>>>3 x > >>>>> > >>>>>>>16 > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>track submix units comprising a total of 48 tracks with a total > >> > >> of > >> > >>>72 > >>> > >>>>>>>>digital I/O and 32 analog I/O for various routing configurations) > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>Paris MEC 1 mixer channels are set to receive lightpipe from Cubase > >>>>> > >>>>>Sx > >>>>> > >>>>>>>DAW > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>using ADAT channels 1-14 bussed from RME 9652 #1 ADAT I/O 1 & 2 > >>>> > >>>>assigned > >>>> > >>>>>>>to > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>Cubase SX audio channels 1-16 and Cubase SX audio channels 1-14 > >> > >> each > >> > >>>>>>>>assigned to channels 1-14 outputs. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>Cubase SX channels 1-14 (the drums) are duplicated and the > >>> > >>>duplicated > >>> > >>>>>>drum > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>submix is panned to taste, EQ'ed, individual tr
; Paris CH 16 > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>Paris Submix #3 > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>Cubase CH 32>RME 2 ADAT 2-9 out > Paris CH 1 > >>>>>>>>Cubase CH 33>RME 2 ADAT 2-10 out > Paris CH 2 > >>>>>>>>Cubase CH 34>RME 2 ADAT 2-11 out > Paris CH 3 > >>>>>>>>Cubase CH 35>RME 2 ADAT 2-12 out > Paris CH 4 > >>>>>>>>Cubase CH 36>RME 2 ADAT 2-13 out > Paris CH 5 > >>>>>>>>Cubase CH 37>RME 2 ADAT 2-14 out > Paris CH 6 > >>>>>>>>Cubase CH 38>RME 2 ADAT 2-15 out > Paris CH 7 > >>>>>>>>Cubase CH 39>RME 2 ADAT 2-16 out > Paris CH 8 > >>>>>>>>Cubase CH 40>RME 2 ADAT 3-17 out > Paris CH 9 > >>>>>>>>Cubase CH 41>RME 2 ADAT 3-18 out > Paris CH 10 > >>>>>>>>Cubase CH 42>RME 2 ADAT 3-19 out > Paris CH 11 > >>>>>>>>Cubase CH 43>RME 2 ADAT 3-20 out > Paris CH 12 > >>>>>>>>Cubase CH 45>RME 2 ADAT 3-21 out > Paris CH 13 > >>>>>>>>Cubase CH 46>RME 2 ADAT 3-22 out > Paris CH 14 > >>>>>>>>Cubase ST CH 47L/ Stereo Group 2 L> RME 3 ADAT 3-23 out > Paris > >> > >> CH > >> > >>>15 > >>> > >>>>>>>>Cubase ST CH 48R/ Stereo Group 2 R> RME 3 ADAT 3-24 out > Paris > >> > >> CH > >> > >>>16 > >>> > >>>>>>>>Paris S/PDIF I/O for MECs 1, 2 and 3, Sony V77, Quantec Yardstick, > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Lexicon > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>PC90 (Core 32 system coaxial spdif I/O) are all bussed to a digital > >>>>>> > >>>>>>patchbay > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>for routing to different Paris submixes as needed. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>POD XT Pro is patched directly to the spdif I/O of one of the RME > >>> > >>>HDSP > >>> > >>>>>>>>9652's and set up as an external insert effect or send effect as > >>>> > >>>>needed > >>>> > >>>>>>>in > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>Cubase SX. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>Power Technology DSP/FX card is patched to the S/PDIF I/O of one > >> > >> of > >> > >>>>the > >>>> > >>>>>>>>other RME HDSP 9652's and set up as an insert or send effect as > >>>> > >>>>needed. > >>>> > >>>>>>>>Lexicon PC90 (Core 32 system ADAT I/O) is routed to the ADAT I/O > >> > >> of > >> > >>>>the > >>>> > >>>>>>>RME > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>Multiface and either set up as external insert effect or send effect > >>>>> > >>>>>as > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>needed. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>RME Multiface analog I/O are set up as external insert busses for > >>>>>> > >>>>>>processing > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>tracks with up to 8 x various analog compressors and EQ's with > >> > >> ADC > >> > >>>>being > >>>> > >>>>>>>>applied in Cubase SX to keep them phase coherent.. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>4 x UAD-1 cards in the Cubase SX DAW provide stereo reverb to the > >>>> > >>>>tracks > >>>> > >>>>>>>>using the stereo drum bus and center panned stereo and mono reverb > >>> > >>>to > >>> > >>>>>>>>individual mono tracks (the UAD-1 EMT 140 is often requested on > >> > >> lead > >> > >>>>>VOX > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>tracks-UA hit a home run with this emulation) along with track EQ > >>> > >>>and > >>> > >>>>>the > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>LA-2A, 1176, Fairchild etc. compressiors on mono tracks before they > >>>> > >>>>are > >>>> > >>>>>>>>streamed back into Paris for summing. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>Paris MEC I/O in submixes one, two and three as well as IF2's on > >>> > >>>MECs > >>> > >>>>>2 > >>>>> > >>>>>>>and > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>3 are set up to route analog FX processors in Paris from the Lexi > >> > >> PC > >> > >>>>>90, > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>Power Technology DSP/FX card, Sony V77, Sony MU-R201 and POD Pro > >> > >> XT > >> > >>>if > >>> > >>>>>>>>needed. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>All panning of tracks and reverbs, delays etc. are done in Paris > >>> > >>>since > >>> > >>>>>>all > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>Cubase SX tracks with the exception of the stereo drum mix are mono > >>>> > >>>>and > >>>> > >>>>>>>>being lightpiped directly to Paris rather than being sent to stereo > >>>>>> > >>>>>>busses > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>in Cubase SX. (without being assigned to a stereo bus in Cubase, > >> > >> the > >> > >>>>>mono > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>tracks in SX cannot be panned) > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>All of this is clocked through a Mytek ADC 24/96 which is feeding > >> > >> a > >> > >>>>Lucid > >>>> > >>>>>>>>GenX6 module set to distribute word clock (at 10 picoseconds) which > >>>>> > >>>>>is > >>>>> > >>>>>>>then > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>feeding the 3 x Paris MECs, 2 x HDSP 9652's and the RME Multiface > >>> > >>>and > >>> > >>>>>the > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>Lexicon Studio Core 32 outboard reverb. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>All of the routing scenarios are saved in mix templates on the two > >>>> > >>>>audio > >>>> > >>>>>>>>DAWs and the digital patchbay control panel in the DAW running > >>>>>> > >>>>>>standalone > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>FX. The Cubase DAW is slaved to the Paris DAW by ADAT sync so the > >>>> > >>>>Paris > >>>&
ied to the individual drum tracks. > >>> > >>>Any > >>> > >>>>>>>>outboard processing to the individual drum tracks is being done > >>>> > >>>>through > >>>> > >>>>>>>the > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>RME multiface I/O to retain phase coherence and care must be taken > >>> > >>>at > >>> > >>>>>>this > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>point when processing in Paris to use only digital FX externally > >> > >> (1 > >> > >>>x > >>> > >>>>>>sample > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>latency with digital I/O loop in Paris) and care must also be taken > >>>> > >>>>with > >>>> > >>>>>>>the > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>lookahead when using the Paris onboard DSP compressors to avoid > >>> > >>>phase > >>> > >>>>>>issues > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>(flamming). > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>It is possible to achieve a monster drum sound by using both Paris > >>> > >>>and > >>> > >>>>>>>>Cubase SX when processing parallel drum submixes sample accurately > >>> > >>>on > >>> > >>>>>>both > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>platforms. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>Paris MEC 2 mixer channels are bussed from RME 9652 #1 ADAT I/O > >> > >> #3 > >> > >>>and > >>> > >>>>>>RME > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>2 > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>ADAT #1 I/O assigned to audio channels 17-32 and the channels routed > >>>>> > >>>>>to > >>>>> > >>>>>>>RME > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>outputs 17-32. and 16 audio tracks are streamed from SX to Paris, > >>>> > >>>>being > >>>> > >>>>>>>>processed in both platforms. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>Paris MEC 3 mixer channels 1 thru 14 set to bus lightpipe from 14 > >>>>>> > >>>>>>channels > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>playing back in SX on ADAT channels 1-14 routed to RME 9652 #2 ADAT > >>>> > >>>>!/O > >>>> > >>>>>>>#2 > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>and RME #2 ADAT I/O #3 assigned to audio channels 33-46.. RME ADAT > >>>>>> > >>>>>>channels > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>47 and 48 are set up as a stereo FX bus for all send FX being > >>> > >>>applied > >>> > >>>>>to > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>tracks in Cubase SX.which is bussing to/from Paris Submix 3, Aux > >> > >> 1 > >> > >>>>>>>>interfacing with Paris ADAT I/O #15 and 16. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>The mix template routing between the two work stations is as > >>> > >>>follows: > >>> > >>>>>>>>Paris Submix 1-Drums (usually) > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>Using RME HDSP 9652 Card #1 bussing to Paris Submix 1 and 2 > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>Cubase CH 1>RME 1 ADAT 1-1 out > Paris CH 1 > >>>>>>>>Cubase CH 2>RME 1 ADAT 1-2 out > Paris CH 2 > >>>>>>>>Cubase CH 3>RME 1 ADAT 1-3 out > Paris CH 3 > >>>>>>>>Cubase CH 4>RME 1 ADAT 1-4 out > Paris CH 4 > >>>>>>>>Cubase CH 5>RME 1 ADAT 1-5 out > Paris CH 5 > >>>>>>>>Cubase CH 6>RME 1 ADAT 1-6 out > Paris CH 6 > >>>>>>>>Cubase CH 7>RME 1 ADAT 1-7 out > Paris CH 7 > >>>>>>>>Cubase CH 8>RME 1 ADAT 1-8 out > Paris CH 8 > >>>>>>>>Cubase CH 9>RME 1 ADAT 2-9 out > Paris CH 9 > >>>>>>>>Cubase CH 10>RME 1 ADAT 2-10 out > Paris CH 10 > >>>>>>>>Cubase CH 11>RME 1 ADAT 2-11 out > Paris CH 11 > >>>>>>>>Cubase CH 12>RME 1 ADAT 2-12 out > Paris CH 12 > >>>>>>>>Cubase CH 13>RME 1 ADAT 2-13 out > Paris CH 13 > >>>>>>>>Cubase CH 14>RME 1 ADAT 2-14 out > Paris CH 14 > >>>>>>>>Cubase ST CH 15L/ Stereo Group 1 L> RME 1 ADAT 2-15 out > Paris > >> > >> CH > >> > >>>15 > >>> > >>>>>>>>Cubase ST CH 15R/ Stereo Group 1 R> RME 1 ADAT 2-16 out > Paris > >> > >> CH > >> > >>>16 > >>> > >>>>>>>>Paris Submix #2 > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>Cubase CH 16>RME 1 ADAT 3-17 out > Paris CH 1 > >>>>>>>>Cubase CH 17>RME 1 ADAT 3-18 out > Paris CH 2 > >>>>>>>>Cubase CH 18>RME 1 ADAT 3-19 out > Paris CH 3 > >>>>>>>>Cubase CH 19>RME 1 ADAT 3-20 out > Paris CH 4 > >>>>>>>>Cubase CH 20>RME 1 ADAT 3-21 out > Paris CH 5 > >>>>>>>>Cubase CH 21>RME 1 ADAT 3-22 out > Paris CH 6 > >>>>>>>>Cubase CH 22>RME 1 ADAT 3-23 out > Paris CH 7 > >>>>>>>>Cubase CH 23>RME 1 ADAT 3-24 out > Paris CH 8 > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>Using RME HDSP 9652 Card #2 bussing to Paris Submix 2 AND 3 > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>Cubase CH 24>RME 2 ADAT 1-1 out > Paris CH 9 > >>>>>>>>Cubase CH 25>RME 2 ADAT 1-2 out > Paris CH 10 > >>>>>>>>Cubase CH 26>RME 2 ADAT 1-3 out > Paris CH 11 > >>>>>>>>Cubase CH 27>RME 2 ADAT 1-4 out > Paris CH 12 > >>>>>>>>Cubase CH 28>RME 2 ADAT 1-5 out > Paris CH 13 > >>>>>>>>Cubase CH 29>RME 2 ADAT 1-6 out > Paris CH 14 > >>>>>>>>Cubase CH 30>RME 2 ADAT 1-7 out > Paris CH 15 > >>>>>>>>Cubase CH 31>RME 2 ADAT 1-8 out &gt
com> wrote: >Here is a wrinkle to this equation.. you said you want to stream 96 >channels from the DM2K... ok, no problem. The limitation is that you >would be able to do this at 96K only with the MADI cards. The >standard 96K MY cards are 8 chanels only... this gives you 48 channels >of I/O at 96K fully loaded with AES cards. If you want all 96 >channels of I/O you are stuck at 48KHz using adat/TDIF/AES cards. > >Just another $.02 on the pile :-) > >David. > >LaMont wrote: > >> Well, the RME-Madi card(s) price don't look too bad for the 64 channels per >> card. I want to be able to stream 96 channel from the yamaha DM-2000.. So,the >> Optical way would cost, 4- 9652(s) is almost the same. $2400(9652) vs $2600.00(Madi) >> >> EK Sound <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote: >> >>>The MADI cards will set you back almost as much as the desk itself! We >>>went the optical route here... WAY cheaper. >>> >>>David. >>> >>>LaMont wrote: >>> >>> >>>>You're right $$$ Cha-ching!!! :) But, Digi is giving new customers at >> >> least >> >>>>$3,500.00 in software plugins. Maybe more, but I do knwo that it's at >> >> least >> >>>>$3500.00 >>>> >>>>I dont think you need 96 I/o channels, but hey !! you never know :) >>>>PTHD-3(Axcel) had all the processing power one needs to replace 4 UAD1 >> >> cards. >> >>>>Being that you can run the uad plugs on the HD cards, or run Fx expansion >>>>vst
>>>>plugins.. But, if you only have a old G4, so-what, you're still gonna >>>>> >>>>>get >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>taht stated track/DSP count...very smothly indeed.. No more bashing >>>> >>>>Digi >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>for me.. I've seen the light.. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>LaMont >>>>>>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Not nearly complicated enough ;o) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Seriously, I have thought about it.....a lot. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Deej >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message >>>>> >>>>>news:43dd826c$1@linux... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>DJ... Pro Tools HD2/3, with apogee AD/DA 16xs(2) converters..Monster >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Sound, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Killer i/o routing for your stand alones.. All under one roof. Do >>>> >>>>the >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>$$math$$$ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>:) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>what approaches???..............humm.......well....here it is in >>>> >>>>a >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>nutshell.....;oP >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>A typical session is usually tracked and mixed as follows: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>All tracking is usually done in Paris using a Furman HDS 16 cue >>>>> >>>>>system >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>with >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>3 x HRM 16 remotes. Paris latency is 1.25 ms at 44.1kHz, 1.5ms at >>>>>> >>>>>>48kHz. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Each HRM-16 unit is paired with an Alesis Wedge reverb unit so that >>>>>> >>>>>>the >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>performer can dial in exactly the amount of ambience in the cans >>>> >>>>to >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>achieve >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>a comfortable cuemix. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>I have a number of tracking templates set up in Paris and Cubase >>>> >>>>SX >>>> >>>> >>>>>to >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>utilize my RME Multiface converters with any of the three Paris >>>>>> >>>>>>submixes >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>via >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>lightpipe. Since two om my MECS have an A8iT and A8oT and the third >>>>>> >>>>>>one >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>only >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>has ADAT, if I need 16 x I/O on either of the two MECS that have >>>>> >>>>>only >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>1 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>x >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Paris I/O module on them during a tracking session, I can open up >>>>> >>>>>the >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Cubase-to-Paris tracking template on both machines nd then just >>>>> >>>>>patch >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>in >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>my >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>preamps to the Multiface I/O and it's routed digitally to the >>>>>> >>>>>>respective >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>channels of the Paris mixer. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Once project is tracked, basic editing done using the Paris editor. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Audio tracks are then rendered as contiguous 24 bit.paf (Paris Audio >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Files) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>with starting points at 00:00:00. to a folder in the Paris song >>>>>> >>>>>>project >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>file. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Batch converion of the the rendered .paf's to .wavs is done in >>>>> >>>>>Wavelab >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>via >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>LAN to DAW running Wavelab and Cubase SX and the converted .wav >>>>> >>>>>files >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>are >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>saved to a Cubase SX song project. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>The .wavs are imported into a Cubase SX project template for the >>>>> >>>>>song >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>which >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>has a routing matrix bussing certain tracks to certain busses and >>>>> >>>>>then >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>bussing the tracks back to Paris for summing as follows: >>>>>>>>>>(NOTE: the use of the word MEC /IF2 below refers to various Paris >>>>> >>>>>I/O >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>interfaces which correlate to 16 track submixes. The system here >>>> >>>>has >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>3 x >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>16 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>track submix units comprising a total of 48 tracks with a total >>>> >>>>of >>>> >>>> >>>>>72 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>digital I/O and 32 analog I/O for various routing configurations) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Paris MEC 1 mixer channels are set to receive lightpipe from Cubase >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Sx >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>DAW >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>using ADAT channels 1-14 bussed from RME 9652 #1 ADAT I/O 1 & 2 >>>>>> >>>>>>assigned >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>to >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Cubase SX audio channels 1-16 and Cubase SX audio channels 1-14 >>>><br
ill wayyyyy overpriced.....at >>>>> >>>>>least >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>for me. If I was in a situation where it would bring enough business >> >> for >> >>>>>it >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>to pay for itself, then maybe I could see it. Right now, I'm the >>>>> >>>>>alternative >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>to Pro Tools in this town. That is starting to bring me business actually. >>>>>>People are curious about this crazy engineer with the Rube Goldberg >>>>> >>>>>machine. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>;o) >>>>>> >>>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:43ddadca$1@linux... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>LOL!! >>>>>>>I know that most of us thru out the years have beeen cold on PT, but >>>> >>>>I >>>> >>>> >>>>>>have >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>admit, that DAW( PT-HD) is one nice sounding, smooth running, cryptic >>>>>> >>>>>>editing-but >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>fast once you know it. It's I/O patchbay routing is on another level. >>>>>> >>>>>>That's >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>all i can say. They sound is as good withthe Digi converters, but, >>>>>> >>>>>>inserting >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>a Lucid gen 96 or 192, tightens the sound up.. Using Apogees Rosettas >>>>> >>>>>and >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>or the AD/DA16x, really make yo
;>>EQ's, etc) and bussed via lightpipe to Paris channels 1 through >>>> >>>>14 >>>> >>>> >>>>>in >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>submix >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>#1 where the panning of the drum tracks in the SX drum submix is >>>>>> >>>>>>mirrored >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>in >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Paris. FX such as Paris EQ/ insert DSP and outboard reverbs >>>>> >>>>>(digital >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>only) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>and Paris aux FX are then applied to the individual drum tracks. >>>>> >>>>>Any >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>outboard processing to the individual drum tracks is being done >>>>>> >>>>>>through >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>the >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>RME multiface I/O to retain phase coherence and care must be taken >>>>> >>>>>at >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>this >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>point when processing in Paris to use only digital FX externally >>>> >>>>(1 >>>> >>>> >>>>>x >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>sample >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>latency with digital I/O loop in Paris) and care must also be taken >>>>>> >>>>>>with >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>the >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>lookahead when using the Paris onboard DSP compressors to avoid >>>>> >>>>>phase >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>issues >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>(flamming). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>It is possible to achieve a monster drum sound by using both Paris >>>>> >>>>>and >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Cubase SX when processing parallel d
t; >>>>>>>>>>playing back in SX on ADAT channels 1-14 routed to RME 9652 #2 ADAT >>>>>> >>>>>>!/O >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>#2 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>and RME #2 ADAT I/O #3 assigned to audio channels 33-46.. RME ADAT >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>channels >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>47 and 48 are set up as a stereo FX bus for all send FX being >>>>> >>>>>applied >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>to >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>tracks in Cubase SX.which is bussing to/from Paris Submix 3, Aux >>>> >>>>1 >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>interfacing with Paris ADAT I/O #15 and 16. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>The mix template routing between the two work stations is as >>>>> >>>>>follows: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Paris Submix 1-Drums (usually) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Using RME HDSP 9652 Card #1 bussing to Paris Submix 1 and 2 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Cubase CH 1>RME 1 ADAT 1-1 out > Paris CH 1 >>>>>>>>>>Cubase CH 2>RME 1 ADAT 1-2 out > Paris CH 2 >>>>>>>>>>Cubase CH 3>RME 1 ADAT 1-3 out > Paris CH 3 >>>>>>>>>>Cubase CH 4>RME 1 ADAT 1-4 out > Paris CH 4 >>>>>>>>>>Cubase CH 5>RME 1 ADAT 1-5 out > Paris CH 5 >>>>>>>>>>Cubase CH 6>RME 1 ADAT 1-6 out > Paris CH 6 >>>>>>>>>>Cubase CH 7>RME 1 ADAT 1-7 out > Paris CH 7 >>>>>>>>>>Cubase CH 8>RME 1 ADAT 1-8 out > Paris CH 8 >>>>>>>>>>Cubase CH 9>RME 1 ADAT 2-9 out > Paris CH 9 >>>>>>>>>>Cubase CH 10>RME 1 ADAT 2-10 out > Paris CH 10 >>>>>>>>>>Cubase CH 11>RME 1 ADAT 2-11 out > Paris CH 11 >>>>>>>>>>Cubase CH 12>RME 1 ADAT 2-12 out > Paris CH 12 >>>>>>>>>>Cubase CH 13>RME 1 ADAT 2-13 out > Paris CH 13 >>>>>>>>>>Cubase CH 14>RME 1 ADAT 2-14 out > Paris CH 14 >>>>>>>>>>Cubase ST CH 15L/ Stereo Group 1 L> RME 1 ADAT 2-15 out > Paris >>>> >>>>CH >>>> >>>> >>>>>15 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Cubase ST CH 15R/ Stereo Group 1 R> RME 1 ADAT 2-16 out > Paris >>>> >>>>CH >>>> >>>> >>>>>16 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Paris Submix #2 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Cubase CH 16>RME 1 ADAT 3-17 out > Paris CH 1 >>>>>>>>>>Cubase CH 17>RME 1 ADAT 3-18 out > Paris CH 2 >>>>>>>>>>Cubase CH 18>RME 1 ADAT 3-19 out > Paris CH 3 >>>>>>>>>>Cubase CH 19>RME 1 ADAT 3-20 out > Paris CH 4 >>>>>>>>>>Cubase CH 20>RME 1 ADAT 3-21 out > Paris CH 5 >>>>>>>>>>Cubase CH 21>RME 1 ADAT 3-22 out > Paris CH 6 >>>>>>>>>>Cubas