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s surprise when she opened a fedex box with live "lobster" > cochroaches. I just thank you for keeping them in a plastic container. > It was hilarious to me but my wife was freaking out, seriously freaking > out. Meanwhile I'm reading to her how they make great pets (according to > the enclosed document) but she really didn't want to adopt them. Sorry. > I mean you could have just sent a bag of primo weed (it's still not too > late)! hehe > > Merry Christmas Justcron and I thought it was hilarous. > > JohnThrow the puppy up in mono and see where everything sits...then EQ / process to get everything in it's place then put it back in stereo and see what happens...may help. May not Don "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message news:43c2ba35$1@linux... > I'm doing a mix here. We've got a lot of acoustic instruments goin on this > mix and the client/producer/songwriter/arranger is sitting in on the mix > making decisions as t6o which instruments he wants up in the holes in the > mix, since we have many options. The players on this project are really > good > and it's sorta' agonizing for him to sacrifice hearing one part when > another > equally good riff is being played on the same timeline and a decision has > to > be made as to one or the other. Well, this is all part of the game and > just > takes time. What's making me nuts is that the client really respects these > players. These guys, as good as they are, occasionally had a clam or two > as > far as the number of notes that may have been played over a certain > passage. > He doesn't want to change this stuff our of *respect* for the performance. > It just doesn't work in some cases and sounds like a trainwreck in others. > I > can easily fix it in the editor, but he's uncomfortable with this. This > mix > isn't going to work with certain of these unedited passages......it just > won't........trust me. My problem is, and this is why I could never last > long in a band, is that I *know* what needs to be done and everyone else > is > wrong............am I right? > > ;o) > >LOL! Nice work guys. Funny, I never thought of roaches as pets... ;o) Cheers, Kim. "justcron" <pachinko@hydrorecords.com> wrote: >The website said they make good pets! > >:) > >all in good fun amigo. > >"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:43c2e8e7@linux... >> Well, I must not have been good last year cuz when I asked justcron for >> only 3 presents (ski boat, jet ski and motocross, though I did add on some >> yorkville monitors and an allen and heath 16:2 mixwizard) he only sent me >> one and it wasn't even one of them on my list. >> >> Imagine my wife's surprise when she opened a fedex box with live "lobster" >> cochroaches. I just thank you for keeping them in a plastic container. >> It was hilarious to me but my wife was freaking out, seriously freaking >> out. Meanwhile I'm reading to her how they make great pets (according to >> the enclosed document) but she really didn't want to adopt them. Sorry. >> I mean you could have just sent a bag of primo weed (it's still not too >> late)! hehe >> >> Merry Christmas Justcron and I thought it was hilarous. >> >> John > >I was really hoping you were some rich nut and was just going to blow about $50k for shock value. I'm still open to that :-) hehe justcron wrote: > The website said they make good pets! > > :) > > all in good fun amigo. > > "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:43c2e8e7@linux... > >>Well, I must not have been good last year cuz when I asked justcron for >>only 3 presents (ski boat, jet ski and motocross, though I did add on some >>yorkville monitors and an allen and heath 16:2 mixwizard) he only sent me <br
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That's so much of what I do and none of the control surfaces seem to really do that terrible well. The Houston I had was OK but not much better than that. Hmmmm . . . . TCB "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote: >Yikes!!!! That's cheap. Now I wonder if they're getting ready to discontinue >it. > >;o} > >"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message >news:43c029b6$1@linux... >> >> Hey Deej! You were just talking about the Tascam US-2400, you probably >already >> know this, there has been a price drop. Last time I checked prices they >> wanted about $1100.00. Check it out. >> >> http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/g=home/search/detail/bas e_pid/706947/ >> >> James > >The Dimitrios LA2A is: Threshold -75.1 db Ratio 1.10:1 Attack 0.00126 sec Release 0.052 sec lookahead 0.000 output 6.3 db --------- Bill's UAD 1176LN is: UAD1 1176LN "Gentle Vocal Comp" preset Check out Bill L's compresor to match the UAD 1176LN. He starts with the gentle crush and then: -67.4db 1.25:1 0.0030 0.0076 0.007 8.7 Sounds good, too. Up to 14 dB of reduction. The important settings to change for your vocal application would be the threshold and the output. I set the threshold so I was gettin g up to around 14 dB of reduction. ------------- Another one of Bill's Subject: Here Is a Good Vocal Setting for Paris Compressor I started out doing some tests of Chuck's NoLIMIT, which devolved into a compressor plugin shoot-out. I didn't go totally crazy - really I was just trying to see if I could get the regular Paris compressor to sound like the UAD1 1176LN "Gentle Vocal Comp" preset. While I was at it, I threw in Waves Ren Comp on a vocal setting. I then tweaked the Paris and the Waves to sound as close to the 1176 as I could get them. I then tested them on male and female vocal. The listeners were myself and my wife, who is an excellent singer and a pianist, and actually has great ears (and she digs doing these tests). The winner by a very, very small margin was the UAD1. After that came the Paris comp, and last was the Waves. My wife said the Waves sounded slightly "metallic", which I interpreted to mean it had artifacts and was a little flangey sounding. I agree, but it didn't sound bad, just not as good. The UAD1 just sounded the most pleasing. The Paris compressor was really close though - totally usable IMHO - and I thought it might be useful for some folks if I shared the settings I arrived at, especially as the Paris comp is by far the hardest compressor plug I have ever knobulated. I started with the "gentle crush" setting (I mention this because there has been a theory that there is a different algorithm used in the "Opto" setting. I have no idea whether this is true, nor do I know which algo is in the gentle crush.) -67.4db 1.25:1 0.0030 0.0076 0.007 8.7 The important settings to change for your vocal application would be the threshold and the output. I set the threshold so I was getting up to around 14 dB of reduction. Hope this may be useful to those who don't have a UAD1. As to the NoLimit plug, I found it not so useful on vocals. Maybe I didn't set it right - not sure. I wish it has a meter (Chuck, was that why you were asking about good examples of plug in meters?) I will be testing it for mastering program tomorrow. I will let y'all know what I think. Bill Gantt Kushner wrote: > What are the settings? I couldn't view the pic in the previous post... > > Gantt > > Tom Bruhl wrote: > >> It wasn't as soft sounding as the UAD La2a.I think increasing the >> ratio a little bit helped. Not a badstarting point though. Give it a >> try if you haven't. Thanks Dimitrios.T. >gluey huh? DJ wrote: > I'm processing one of the kick tracks ( mic on beater) and one of the snare > tracks (underneath on snares) with a touch of my SPL TD, other than that, > what my ears are telling me right now is that the rest of this mix will only > be processed with a little subtractive and shelving EQ and some > ambience......no compressors....at least not yet. Much of this has to do > with using Cubase into Paris, I think. There's something *gluey* going on > here with just a touch of the NoLimit on the mix bus that I'm liking. We'll > see as this goes along. > >I finally got around to getting a Transient Designer, and I wonder why I waited--very cool piece :) "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote: >I'm processing one of the kick tracks ( mic on beater) and one of the snare >tracks (underneath on snares) with a touch of my SPL TD, other than that, >what my ears are telling me right now is that the rest of this mix will only >be processed with a little subtractive and shelving EQ and some >ambience......no compressors....at least not yet. Much of this has to do >with using Cubase into Paris, I think. There's something *gluey* going on >here with just a touch of the NoLimit on the mix bus that I'm liking. We'll >see as this goes along. > >I'm with you on all of this. The one warning about buying big box machines is to be sure you know all of the peripherals you'll want to use. The days of all memory being the same and any AGP card working are long, long gone. So check to be sure that you have the right number of PCI-E and regular PCI cards and all of that jazz. And once you have it be sure to head over to www.debian.org so you can dual boot the Windows machine with the greatest operating system you've ever used. TCB "Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote: >I enjoy building too, but I agree with you, the prices at some of these big >box stores are really low. We were looking at the e machines at Best Buy a >couple of months ago. I did some checking on the web and the quality of the >current machines seems to be pretty high. Just an FYI, my dad is using a >1.5 year old Dell to run Photoshop CS and ALOT of plugins on photos from a >10+ megapixle camera. He's been very happy with the processing speed. >Good luck. >MR > >"Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote in message >news:43c072d4$1@linux... >> >> First off, Happy New Year to all! Now, down to business ;-)I am looking >for >> a new PC for the studio. It will primarily handle e-mail, internet >access >> and Photoshop duties. I usualy build my own systems, but there seems to be >> great "bang for the buck" these days right off of the shelf (Best Buy, >Circuit >> City, etc.)I'm am curious to know if any of you have found any amazing >deals >> on PC's that I might have missed. >> >> Thanks >> >> Tyrone > >I'm running a 7 meter Canare 75ohm BNC cable from my WC to my WC distributor box. From the distributor box I'm running 3 x Zaolla 1 meter BNC cables to each of my 3 x MECs, a 6' Canare to a BNC splitter with a couple of generic Markertek 75ohm 6" BNC cables from the splitter outs to the BNC inputs of my HDSP 9652's and a 5 meter Hosa BNC cable from the distro box to my HDSP Multiface. Quite a mixed bag.....but working OK here. "JD" <no@nospam.com> wrote in message news:43c18639$1@linux... > > The sixty four thousand question! Is there really that much of a difference > in sound quality and sync between expensive and inexpensive BNC cables? > > I'm about to buy BNC cables again, and I'd hate to pay $60.00 for a cable > when I could have paid $10.00. > > Recommendations for good but less expensive BNC cables? > > ThanksMorgan........I'm not sure whether to offer you my utmost respect or deepest sympathy...........both I guess ;0). That looks like a serious challenge my friend. Surely you are using some kind of major voltage regulator as the first device in the AC chain. I can't even imagine what would happen to that digitally codependent beast if even one device exceeded it's tolerance on a spike or sag. House of cards. I'd love to see this thing up close. ;o) "Morgan" <morganp@ntplx.net> wrote in message news:43c1a7e2@linux... > Hi Deej, > I am now going through a similar Clock challenge, We are presently > working with Euphonix / Steinberg / C-Lab on a sample accurate > POST solution using NUENDO and a similar DUAL OPTERON like the one > we did @ Lakewood with Brian Tankersley. > > The Block Diagrams for this setup are like a subway system map, > There are over 10 Lucid Clock distributors ( 6 outs each ) in the audio > path - a similar amount of Video as well. > > This project lead me to a new Clock source - > http://www.antelopeaudio.com > These guys do a better job than Apogee , and for less $$ > I have worked out some group buy details with these guys as well. > > Here are some pix of the equipment room - the floor below > the Mix Room. This is a fraction of the gear :) > > Morgan :) > > > > > DJ wrote: > > I'm using the WC output from a Mytek A/D converter sending to a Lucid GenX6 > > whic is set to distribute incoming clock signal, then taking the 6 clock > > outputs from the GenX6 which are distributing the Mytek clock signal and > > sending one output to a pair of RME HDSP 9652's by using a BNC splitter, > > another output is sent to an RME Multiface, another is sent to a Lexicon > > Studio 32 reverb and the last 3 are being sent to my 3 x MECs. One > > interesting thing is that the two HDSP 9652's would lock to the incoming > > clock signal when sending an independent feed to each one, but the Multiface > > would not sync to it's spearate WC signal and Paris would not sync to it's 3 > > x WC inputs until the BNC splitter was used to send the same clock output to > > the two HDSP 9652's. It took me about a week of trial-and-error > > troubleshooting, threats of violence and attempted bribes to get this > > happening. I was even considering joining a church. > > > > ;o) > > > > > > > > "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:43c13353$1@linux... > > > >>Hey Deej > >> > >>Just wondering > >> > >>Don > >> > >> > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------- ---- ------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------- ---- ------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------- ----This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0779_01C614BF.FFEEFFC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I wet myself. Tom "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message = news:43c20366$1@linux... Morgan........I'm not sure whether to offer you my utmost respect or = deepest sympathy...........both I guess ;0). That looks like a serious = challenge my friend. Surely you are using some kind of major voltage regulator as = the first device in the AC chain. I can't even imagine what would happen = to that digitally codependent beast if even one device exceeded it's tolerance = on a spike or sag. House of cards. I'd love to see this thing up close. ;o) "Morgan" <morganp@ntplx.net> wrote in message news:43c1a7e2@linux... > Hi Deej, > I am now going through a similar Clock challenge, We are presently > working with Euphonix / Steinberg / C-Lab on a sample accurate > POST solution using NUENDO and a similar DUAL OPTERON like the one > we did @ Lakewood with Brian Tankersley. > > The Block Diagrams for this setup are like a subway system map, > There are over 10 Lucid Clock distributors ( 6 outs each ) in the = audio > path - a similar amount of Video as well. > > This project lead me to a new Clock source - > http://www.antelopeaudio.com > These guys do a better job than Apogee , and for less $$ > I have worked out some group buy details with these guys as well. > > Here are some pix of the equipment room - the floor below > the Mix Room. This is a fraction of the gear :) > > Morgan :) > > > > > DJ wrote: > > I'm using the WC output from a Mytek A/D converter sending to a = Lucid GenX6 > > whic is set to distribute incoming clock signal, then taking the 6 = clock > > outputs from the GenX6 which are distributing the Mytek clock = signal and > > sending one output to a pair of RME HDSP 9652's by using a BNC = splitter, > > another output is sent to an RME Multiface, another is sent to a = Lexicon > > Studio 32 reverb and the last 3 are being sent to my 3 x MECs. One > > interesting thing is that the two HDSP 9652's would lock to the = incoming > > clock signal when sending an independent feed to each one, but the Multiface > > would not sync to it's spearate WC signal and Paris would not sync = to it's 3 > > x WC inputs until the BNC splitter was used to send the same clock output to > > the two HDSP 9652's. It took me about a week of trial-and-error > > troubleshooting, threats of violence and attempted bribes to get = this > > happening. I was even considering joining a church. > > > > ;o) > > > > > > > > "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message = news:43c13353$1@linux... > > > >>Hey Deej > >> > >>Just wondering > >> > >>Don > >> > >> > > > > > > > = ------------------------------------------------------------ -------------= --- ---- = ------------------------------------------------------------ -------------= --- ---- = ------------------------------------------------------------ -------------= --- ---- ------=_NextPart_000_0779_01C614BF.FFEEFFC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I wet myself. Tom <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> "DJ" <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net">animix_spam-this-ahole= _@animas.net>=20 wrote in message <A=20 = href=3D"news:43c20366$1@linux">news:43c20366$1@linux... Morgan..= .......I'm=20 not sure whether to offer you my utmost respect or=20 deepest sympathy...........both I guess ;0). That looks like a = serious=20 challenge my friend. Surely you are using some kind of major = voltage=20 regulator as the first device in the AC chain. I can't even imagine = what=20 would happen to that digitally codependent beast if even one device = exceeded it's tolerance on a spike or sag. House of = cards. I'd love=20 to see this thing up close. ;o) "Morgan" <<A=20 href=3D"mailto:morganp@ntplx.net">morganp@ntplx.net> wrote in = message <A=20 href=3D"news:43c1a7e2@linux">news:43c1a7e2@linux... > Hi = Deej, >=20 I am now going through a similar Clock challenge, We are = presently >=20 working with Euphonix / Steinberg / C-Lab on a sample accurate > = POST=20 solution using NUENDO and a similar DUAL OPTERON like the one > = we did @=20 Lakewood with Brian Tankersley. > > The Block Diagrams for = this=20 setup are like a subway system map, > There are over 10 Lucid = Clock=20 distributors ( 6 outs each ) in the audio > path - a similar = amount of=20 Video as well. > > This project lead me to a new Clock = source=20 - > <A=20 = href=3D"http://www.antelopeaudio.com">http://www.antelopeaudio.com<BR= >>=20 These guys do a better job than Apogee , and for less $$ > I = have worked=20 out some group buy details with these guys as well. > > = Here are=20 some pix of the equipment room - the floor below > the Mix Room. = This is=20 a fraction of the gear :) > > Morgan=20 :) > > > > > DJ wrote: > > I'm = using=20 the WC output from a Mytek A/D converter sending to a = Lucid GenX6 >=20 > whic is set to distribute incoming clock signal, then taking the = 6=20 clock > > outputs from the GenX6 which are distributing the = Mytek=20 clock signal and > > sending one output to a pair of RME HDSP = 9652's=20 by using a BNC splitter, > > another output is sent to an RME = Multiface, another is sent to a Lexicon > > Studio 32 reverb = and the=20 last 3 are being sent to my 3 x MECs. One > > interesting = thing is=20 that the two HDSP 9652's would lock to the incoming > > clock = signal=20 when sending an independent feed to each one, but = the Multiface >=20 > would not sync to it's spearate WC signal and Paris would not = sync=20 to it's 3 > > x WC inputs until the BNC splitter was used = to send=20 the same clock output to > > the two HDSP 9652's. It took = me about=20 a week of trial-and-error > > troubleshooting, threats of = violence=20 and attempted bribes to get this > > happening. I was = even=20 considering joining a church. > > > > ;o) >=20 > > > > > > > "Don Nafe" <<A=20 href=3D"mailto:dnafe@magma.ca">dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message = <A=20 href=3D"news:43c13353$1@linux">news:43c13353$1@linux... > = > >=20 >>Hey Deej > >> > >>Just = wondering >=20 >> > >>Don > >> > >> > = > > > >=20 = > > -------------------------------------------------= --------------------------- ---- ----------= ------------------------------------------------------------ ------ ---= - --------------------------------------------= -------------------------------- ---- = ------=_NextPart_000_0779_01C614BF.FFEEFFC0--The way I used to do it was to route the outputs of my midi sound module into a record enabled Paris audio track. then, but muting allof the midi tracks but the ones I was bouncing to the respective audio track, I could bounce 2 at a time this way until I finally got all of my midi drum tracks recorded as audio tracks. I did this for quite a while actually, until I finally broke down and got myself a 2nd computer and started syncing it up via ADAT. Deej "Richard Faylor" <RichardFaylor@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:43c00c68$1@linux... > > For some time I've used an old MIDI program and interface (Vision/Studio64X) > to create drum loops. Lately, I want to incorpoate those loops into Paris > projects. I've figured out how to import them onto the Paris playing field > at track 19 and I've got Paris triggering the MIDI from there, but what's > the best way to convert the MIDI track to an audio track? Would just "Bouncing > to disk" do the trick, or is there another way? > > Many thanks! > Richard"Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > So is anybody using this?Seems like it could be useful or is it >just popular with the electronica/dance crowd?Obviously the >orchestral type sounds don't compare to other libraries,but it >seems like you get alot for the money. > Or is that the selling point;alot of good but not great sounds >for the money. > >Petedebian the greatest os? i laugh. maybe if you want to wait till your dead for the latest package to come out. i've swithced to fedora and archlinux on all my workstations and servers because debian packages take so freaking long to come out. it may be stable but some of us can't wait 2 years for a package that other distros have usably stable a couple weeks after they come out. tcb wrote: > I'm with you on all of this. The one warning about buying big box machines > is to be sure you know all of the peripherals you'll want to use. The days > of all memory being the same and any AGP card working are long, long gone. > So check to be sure that you have the right number of PCI-E and regular PCI > cards and all of that jazz. > > And once you have it be sure to head over to www.debian.org so you can dual > boot the Windows machine with the greatest operating system you've ever used. > > > TCB > > "Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote: > >>I enjoy building too, but I agree with you, the prices at some of these > > big > >>box stores are really low. We were looking at the e machines at Best Buy > > a > >>couple of months ago. I did some checking on the web and the quality of > > the > >>current machines seems to be pretty high. Just an FYI, my dad is using > > a > >>1.5 year old Dell to run Photoshop CS and ALOT of plugins on photos from > > a > >>10+ megapixle camera. He's been very happy with the processing speed. >>Good luck. >>MR >> >>"Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote in message >>news:43c072d4$1@linux... >> >>>First off, Happy New Year to all! Now, down to business ;-)I am looking >> >>for >> >>>a new PC for the studio. It will primarily handle e-mail, internet >> >>access >> >>>and Photoshop duties. I usualy build my own systems, but there seems to > > be > >>>great "bang for the buck" these days right off of the shelf (Best Buy, >> >>Circuit >> >>>City, etc.)I'm am curious to know if any of you have found any amazing >> >>deals >> >>>on PC's that I might have missed. >>> >>>Thanks >>> >>>Tyrone >> >> >This one is really serious virtual instrument-general music tool.Worth of money, surely. "Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > So is anybody using this?Seems like it could be useful or is it >just popular with the electronica/dance crowd?Obviously the >orchestral type sounds don't compare to other libraries,but it >seems like you get alot for the money. > Or is that the selling point;alot of good but not great sounds >for the money. > >PeteIf you want more recent you can a) put the "testing" and "unstable" repositories in your apt-get setup or b) install manually. IMHO debian "testing" is probably a little more stable than the production Fedora, but it's pretty close as far as being current. Debian unstable is still pretty solid, most of the problems I run into are when something goes into the kernel that I was loading as a module, in which case I just grub back to the previous kernel until I have time to work out what's going on. TCB John <no@no.com> wrote: >debian the greatest os? i laugh. maybe if you want to wait till your >dead for the latest package to come out. i've swithced to fedora and >archlinux on all my workstations and servers because debian packages >take so freaking long to come out. it may be stable but some of us >can't wait 2 years for a package that other distros have usably stable a >couple weeks after they come out. > > > >tcb wrote: >> I'm with you on all of this. The one warning about buying big box machines >> is to be sure you know all of the peripherals you'll want to use. The days >> of all memory being the same and any AGP card working are long, long gone. >> So check to be sure that you have the right number of PCI-E and regular PCI >> cards and all of that jazz. >> >> And once you have it be sure to head over to www.debian.org so you can dual >> boot the Windows machine with the greatest operating system you've ever used. >> >> >> TCB >> >> "Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>>I enjoy building too, but I agree with you, the prices at some of these >> >> big >> >>>box stores are really low. We were looking at the e machines at Best Buy >> >> a >> >>>couple of months ago. I did some checking on the web and the quality of >> >> the >> >>>current machines seems to be pretty high. Just an FYI, my dad is using >> >> a >> >>>1.5 year old Dell to run Photoshop CS and ALOT of plugins on photos from >> >> a >> >>>10+ megapixle camera. He's been very happy with the processing speed. >>>Good luck. >>>MR >>> >>>"Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote in message >>>news:43c072d4$1@linux... >>> >>>>First off, Happy New Year to all! Now, down to business ;-)I am looking >>> >>>for >>> >>>>a new PC for the studio. It will primarily handle e-mail, internet >>> >>>access >>> >>>>and Photoshop duties. I usualy build my own systems, but there seems to >> >> be >> >>>>great "bang for the buck" these days right off of the shelf (Best Buy, >>> >>>Circuit >>> >>>>City, etc.)I'm am curious to know if any of you have found any amazing >>> >>>deals >>> >>>>on PC's that I might have missed. >>>> >>>>Thanks >>>> >>>>Tyrone >>> >>> >>they all have their pros and cons. TCB wrote: > If you want more recent you can a) put the "testing" and "unstable" repositories > in your apt-get setup or b) install manually. IMHO debian "testing" is probably > a little more stable than the production Fedora, but it's pretty close as > far as being current. Debian unstable is still pretty solid, most of the > problems I run into are when something goes into the kernel that I was loading > as a module, in which case I just grub back to the previous kernel until > I have time to work out what's going on. > > TCB > > John <no@no.com> wrote: > >>debian the greatest os? i laugh. maybe if you want to wait till your >>dead for the latest package to come out. i've swithced to fedora and >>archlinux on all my workstations and servers because debian packages >>take so freaking long to come out. it may be stable but some of us >>can't wait 2 years for a package that other distros have usably stable a > > >>couple weeks after they come out. >> >> >> >>tcb wrote: >> >>>I'm with you on all of this. The one warning about buying big box machines >>>is to be sure you know all of the peripherals you'll want to use. The > > days > >>>of all memory being the same and any AGP card working are long, long gone. >>>So check to be sure that you have the right number of PCI-E and regular > > PCI > >>>cards and all of that jazz. >>> >>>And once you have it be sure to head over to www.debian.org so you can > > dual > >>>boot the Windows machine with the greatest operating system you've ever > > used. > >>> >>>TCB >>> >>>"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>>I enjoy building too, but I agree with you, the prices at some of these >>> >>>big >>> >>> >>>>box stores are really low. We were looking at the e machines at Best > > Buy > >>>a >>> >>> >>>>couple of months ago. I did some checking on the web and the quality > > of > >>>the >>> >>> >>>>current machines seems to be pretty high. Just an FYI, my dad is using >>> >>>a >>> >>> >>>>1.5 year old Dell to run Photoshop CS and ALOT of plugins on photos from >>> >>>a >>> >>> >>>>10+ megapixle camera. He's been very happy with the processing speed. >>>>Good luck. >>>>MR >>>> >>>>"Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote in message >>>>news:43c072d4$1@linux... >>>> >>>> >>>>>First off, Happy New Year to all! Now, down to business ;-)I am looking >>>> >>>>for >>>> >>>> >>>>>a new PC for the studio. It will primarily handle e-mail, internet >>>> >>>>access >>>> >>>> >>>>>and Photoshop duties. I usualy build my own systems, but there seems > > to > >>>be >>> >>> >>>>>great "bang for the buck" these days right off of the shelf (Best Buy, >>>> >>>>Circuit >>>> >>>> >>>>>City, etc.)I'm am curious to know if any of you have found any amazing >>>> >>>>deals >>>> >>>> >>>>>on PC's that I might have missed. >>>>> >>>>>Thanks >>>>> >>>>>Tyrone >>>> >>>> >Hopefully, some of you experts can clear this up: I have PARIS on my home desktop, Windows XP Athlon AMD 1400. I have done all sorts of cleaning, tweaking, etc., and maxed out the RAM at 1GB. Despite all of this work, and the fact that it runs "only" about 26 processes at a time, the CPU load "idles" at about 50%. Wassup??????!!!! My laptop at work, a Compaq Evo N1000v, Pentium 4 XP, on which I have done no tweaking or cleaning, idles at 8-10% CPU load. This is with 41 processes running, including a lot of junk. I have tried two different programs, Spped Up My PC and Tweak XP, with no appreciable effect on the CPU load. Is it my McAfee Virus shield thing? It doesn't show any activity, but is enabled. if I need to disable it, how can I continue to scan incoming e-mail? Any light shed on this would be most welcome!!!! Christhat's an edmund programming feature and cannot be changed as far as i know. from all the bugs in this thing we're lucky it runs at all Chris Lang wrote: > Hopefully, some of you experts can clear this up: > > I have PARIS on my home desktop, Windows XP Athlon AMD 1400. > I have done all sorts of cleaning, tweaking, etc., and maxed > out the RAM at 1GB. Despite all of this work, and the fact that > it runs "only" about 26 processes at a time, the CPU load > "idles" at about 50%. Wassup??????!!!! > > My laptop at work, a Compaq Evo N1000v, Pentium 4 XP, on which > I have done no tweaking or cleaning, idles at 8-10% CPU load. > This is with 41 processes running, including a lot of junk. > > I have tried two different programs, Spped Up My PC and Tweak > XP, with no appreciable effect on the CPU load. > > Is it my McAfee Virus shield thing? It doesn't show any > activity, but is enabled. if I need to disable it, how can I > continue to scan incoming e-mail? > > Any light shed on this would be most welcome!!!! > > ChrisExcept the price.... ridiculous! David. Martin Harrington wrote: > No Problems with V5Is it my McAfee Virus shield thing? It doesn't show any activity, but is enabled. if I need to disable it, how can I continue to scan incoming e-mail? Most likely it is. You should be able to turn it off as follows: Start>Run>type msconfig>OK>Startup>find the McAffee app that is running and untick the arrow in the box>reboot You will get a message upon restarting saying that you are operating in a different mode. Just untick the checkmark in the box that asks if you want to be remended every time you start your computer. If this works, then all you have to do is turn off McAffee when you are using your machine as a DAW, then reenable McAfee in the Startup configuration before you use log on to the internet. You definitely shouldn't be having 50% CPU usage when idling, but if this is a Dell, Compaq, HP, IBM,Gateway or any other *branded* computer, if probably has all sorts of proprietary crap running in the background. Another issue may be that your hrd drive is running in PIO mode instead of DMA mode. You might check this in the devide manager in the IDS controllers section of the Devices tree. Good luck, Deej "Chris Lang" <yo@yo.yo> wrote in message news:43c2a595$1@linux... > > Hopefully, some of you experts can clear this up: > > I have PARIS on my home desktop, Windows XP Athlon AMD 1400. > I have done all sorts of cleaning, tweaking, etc., and maxed > out the RAM at 1GB. Despite all of this work, and the fact that > it runs "only" about 26 processes at a time, the CPU load > "idles" at about 50%. Wassup??????!!!! > > My laptop at work, a Compaq Evo N1000v, Pentium 4 XP, on which > I have done no tweaking or cleaning, idles at 8-10% CPU load. > This is with 41 processes running, including a lot of junk. > > I have tried two different programs, Spped Up My PC and Tweak > XP, with no appreciable effect on the CPU load. > > Is it my McAfee Virus shield thing? It doesn't show any > activity, but is enabled. if I need to disable it, how can I > continue to scan incoming e-mail? > > Any light shed on this would be most welcome!!!! > > ChrisIt's been a long time, and I remember there was a way, but how do I go back and fourth betweeen Paris v3.0 and 2.2? I have a project in my 3.0, in CT. but I need my friend up un Mass. to add something on it for me. I was going to bring my project up to his house and let him do his thing, then was hoping to bring it back to my house to do more with it, but he has v 2.2 and I have v3.0. I thought I remembered a way to go between them. If not...........Can I just bring the 2 track mix of my project to his house, have him put in in Paris 2.2, and add his music, then bring that back to my project, and just put his .paf files back into my original project? Would that line up properly? Any suggestions? Thanks ............LouChris, You can also startup the task manager (start > run > taskmgr or the "three finger salute") Switch to the processes tab and click on the cpu header to sort by usage (if it shows all zeros click it once more to flip it to descending sort). Check out what process are taking up cpu time. Normally, if something is not misbehaving, the System Idle Process will show at 98-99%. Whatever is using the cpu, identify it and if possible eliminate it (if it is not obvious, find it by searching your hard drive for the exe/dll. See if anyone claims ownership (i.e. microsoft,McAfee) on the files properties pages. If not, you might want to eliminate it from the config.) Hope this helps, JH Chris Lang wrote: > Hopefully, some of you experts can clear this up: > > I have PARIS on my home desktop, Windows XP Athlon AMD 1400. > I have done all sorts of cleaning, tweaking, etc., and maxed > out the RAM at 1GB. Despite all of this work, and the fact that > it runs "only" about 26 processes at a time, the CPU load > "idles" at about 50%. Wassup??????!!!! > > My laptop at work, a Compaq Evo N1000v, Pentium 4 XP, on which > I have done no tweaking or cleaning, idles at 8-10% CPU load. > This is with 41 processes running, including a lot of junk. > > I have tried two different programs, Spped Up My PC and Tweak > XP, with no appreciable effect on the CPU load. > > Is it my McAfee Virus shield thing? It doesn't show any > activity, but is enabled. if I need to disable it, how can I > continue to scan incoming e-mail? > > Any light shed on this would be most welcome!!!! > > ChrisOk, OK!!!!.......you guys are pissin' me off because I don't grok this and I'm thinking I need to start my learning curve and I just don't have time...........but I've always figured Gnu would be a cool pet. Hell.......we've already got horses so what could it hurt? guess I'll have to find the time. "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:43c282c2$1@linux... > they all have their pros and cons. > > TCB wrote: > > If you want more recent you can a) put the "testing" and "unstable" repositories > > in your apt-get setup or b) install manually. IMHO debian "testing" is probably > > a little more stable than the production Fedora, but it's pretty close as > > far as being current. Debian unstable is still pretty solid, most of the > > problems I run into are when something goes into the kernel that I was loading > > as a module, in which case I just grub back to the previous kernel until > > I have time to work out what's going on. > > > > TCB > > > > John <no@no.com> wrote: > > > >>debian the greatest os? i laugh. maybe if you want to wait till your > >>dead for the latest package to come out. i've swithced to fedora and > >>archlinux on all my workstations and servers because debian packages > >>take so freaking long to come out. it may be stable but some of us > >>can't wait 2 years for a package that other distros have usably stable a > > > > > >>couple weeks after they come out. > >> > >> > >> > >>tcb wrote: > >> > >>>I'm with you on all of this. The one warning about buying big box machines > >>>is to be sure you know all of the peripherals you'll want to use. The > > > > days > > > >>>of all memory being the same and any AGP card working are long, long gone. > >>>So check to be sure that you have the right number of PCI-E and regular > > > > PCI > > > >>>cards and all of that jazz. > >>> > >>>And once you have it be sure to head over to www.debian.org so you can > > > > dual > > > >>>boot the Windows machine with the greatest operating system you've ever > > > > used. > > > >>> > >>>TCB > >>> > >>>"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>>I enjoy building too, but I agree with you, the prices at some of these > >>> > >>>big > >>> > >>> > >>>>box stores are really low. We were looking at the e machines at Best > > > > Buy > > > >>>a > >>> > >>> > >>>>couple of months ago. I did some checking on the web and the quality > > > > of > > > >>>the > >>> > >>> > >>>>current machines seems to be pretty high. Just an FYI, my dad is using > >>> > >>>a > >>> > >>> > >>>>1.5 year old Dell to run Photoshop CS and ALOT of plugins on photos from > >>> > >>>a > >>> > >>> > >>>>10+ megapixle camera. He's been very happy with the processing speed. > >>>>Good luck. > >>>>MR > >>>> > >>>>"Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote in message > >>>>news:43c072d4$1@linux... > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>First off, Happy New Year to all! Now, down to business ;-)I am looking > >>>> > >>>>for > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>a new PC for the studio. It will primarily handle e-mail, internet > >>>> > >>>>access > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>and Photoshop duties. I usualy build my own systems, but there seems > > > > to > > > >>>be > >>> > >>> > >>>>>great "bang for the buck" these days right off of the shelf (Best Buy, > >>>> > >>>>Circuit > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>City, etc.)I'm am curious to know if any of you have found any amazing > >>>> > >>>>deals > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>on PC's that I might have missed. > >>>>> > >>>>>Thanks > >>>>> > >>>>>Tyrone > >>>> > >>>> > >I'm doing a mix here. We've got a lot of acoustic instruments goin on this mix and the client/producer/songwriter/arranger is sitting in on the mix making decisions as t6o which instruments he wants up in the holes in the mix, since we have many options. The players on this project are really good and it's sorta' agonizing for him to sacrifice hearing one part when another equally good riff is being played on the same timeline and a decision has to be made as to one or the other. Well, this is all part of the game and just takes time. What's making me nuts is that the client really respects these players. These guys, as good as they are, occasionally had a clam or two as far as the number of notes that may have been played over a certain passage. He doesn't want to change this stuff our of *respect* for the performance. It just doesn't work in some cases and sounds like a trainwreck in others. I can easily fix it in the editor, but he's uncomfortable with this. This mix isn't going to work with certain of these unedited passages......it just won't........trust me. My problem is, and this is why I could never last long in a band, is that I *know* what needs to be done and everyone else is wrong............am I right? ;o)Hey Deej, Sounds like you could use those Karass Institute negotiation tapes... How about "Even though we need to respect the players the song is more important." Some of the best players have ended up on the cutting room floor! Good luck! Mark "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote: >I'm doing a mix here. We've got a lot of acoustic instruments goin on this >mix and the client/producer/songwriter/arranger is sitting in on the mix >making decisions as t6o which instruments he wants up in the holes in the >mix, since we have many options. The players on this project are really good >and it's sorta' agonizing for him to sacrifice hearing one part when another >equally good riff is being played on the same timeline and a decision has to >be made as to one or the other. Well, this is all part of the game and just >takes time. What's making me nuts is that the client really respects these >players. These guys, as good as they are, occasionally had a clam or two as >far as the number of notes that may have been played over a certain passage. >He doesn't want to change this stuff our of *respect* for the performance. >It just doesn't work in some cases and sounds like a trainwreck in others. I >can easily fix it in the editor, but he's uncomfortable with this. This mix >isn't going to work with certain of these unedited passages......it just >won't........trust me. My problem is, and this is why I could never last >long in a band, is that I *know* what needs to be done and everyone else is >wrong............am I right? > >;o) > >Deej, Rule #1: You are always right. Even when you're wrong! ;>) The truth is, if you were hired to mix the project with the direction of the producer, then he's got the final say. It's really hard to "detach" your self from these kind's of things, but it has to be done. All you can do is tactfully make observations or suggestions. After that, it's out of your hands. If you are really attached to this project, make your own mix after the producer leaves and have it handy to show the group/producer if they decide changes need to be made. Tony "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message news:43c2ba35$1@linux... > I'm doing a mix here. We've got a lot of acoustic instruments goin on this > mix and the client/producer/songwriter/arranger is sitting in on the mix > making decisions as t6o which instruments he wants up in the holes in the > mix, since we have many options. The players on this project are really > good > and it's sorta' agonizing for him to sacrifice hearing one part when > another > equally good riff is being played on the same timeline and a decision has > to > be made as to one or the other. Well, this is all part of the game and > just > takes time. What's making me nuts is that the client really respects these > players. These guys, as good as they are, occasionally had a clam or two > as > far as the number of notes that may have been played over a certain > passage. > He doesn't want to change this stuff our of *respect* for the performance. > It just doesn't work in some cases and sounds like a trainwreck in others. > I > can easily fix it in the editor, but he's uncomfortable with this. This > mix > isn't going to work with certain of these unedited passages......it just > won't........trust me. My problem is, and this is why I could never last > long in a band, is that I *know* what needs to be done and everyone else > is > wrong............am I right? > > ;o) > >My $.02... why bother using good players if you aren't going to let their best shine through? Would he leave an out of tune guitar in the mix?... probably not. David. DJ wrote: > I'm doing a mix here. We've got a lot of acoustic instruments goin on this > mix and the client/producer/songwriter/arranger is sitting in on the mix > making decisions as t6o which instruments he wants up in the holes in the > mix, since we have many options. The players on this project are really good > and it's sorta' agonizing for him to sacrifice hearing one part when another > equally good riff is being played on the same timeline and a decision has to > be made as to one or the other. Well, this is all part of the game and just > takes time. What's making me nuts is that the client really respects these > players. These guys, as good as they are, occasionally had a clam or two as > far as the number of notes that may have been played over a certain passage. > He doesn't want to change this stuff our of *respect* for the performance. > It just doesn't work in some cases and sounds like a trainwreck in others. I > can easily fix it in the editor, but he's uncomfortable with this. This mix > isn't going to work with certain of these unedited passages......it just > won't........trust me. My problem is, and this is why I could never last > long in a band, is that I *know* what needs to be done and everyone else is > wrong............am I right? > > ;o) > >Thanks Jeff! I have done that before, and here is the mystery: The System Idle shows 98-99, yet the CPU load still hovers at around 50%. Apparently, nothing is happening, but it needs 50% load for that "nothing" to happen. Whaa??? Thanks for your suggestions, Chris Jeff hoover <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote: >Chris, > >You can also startup the task manager (start > run > taskmgr or the >"three finger salute") Switch to the processes tab and click on the cpu >header to sort by usage (if it shows all zeros click it once more to >flip it to descending sort). Check out what process are taking up cpu >time. Normally, if something is not misbehaving, the System Idle >Process will show at 98-99%. Whatever is using the cpu, identify it and >if possible eliminate it (if it is not obvious, find it by searching >your hard drive for the exe/dll. See if anyone claims ownership (i.e. >microsoft,McAfee) on the files properties pages. If not, you might want >to eliminate it from the config.) > >Hope this helps, > >JH > > >Chris Lang wrote: >> Hopefully, some of you experts can clear this up: >> >> I have PARIS on my home desktop, Windows XP Athlon AMD 1400. >> I have done all sorts of cleaning, tweaking, etc., and maxed >> out the RAM at 1GB. Despite all of this work, and the fact that >> it runs "only" about 26 processes at a time, the CPU load >> "idles" at about 50%. Wassup??????!!!! >> >> My laptop at work, a Compaq Evo N1000v, Pentium 4 XP, on which >> I have done no tweaking or cleaning, idles at 8-10% CPU load. >> This is with 41 processes running, including a lot of junk. >> >> I have tried two different programs, Spped Up My PC and Tweak >> XP, with no appreciable effect on the CPU load. >> >> Is it my McAfee Virus shield thing? It doesn't show any >> activity, but is enabled. if I need to disable it, how can I >> continue to scan incoming e-mail? >> >> Any light shed on this would be most welcome!!!! >> >> ChrisWhat is telling you there is a 50% load? JH Chris Lang wrote: > Thanks Jeff! > > I have done that before, and here is the mystery: > The System Idle shows 98-99, yet the CPU load still > hovers at around 50%. Apparently, nothing is happening, > but it needs 50% load for that "nothing" to happen. > Whaa??? > > Thanks for your suggestions, > > Chris > > > Jeff hoover <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote: > >>Chris, >> >>You can also startup the task manager (start > run > taskmgr or the >>"three finger salute") Switch to the processes tab and click on the cpu > > >>header to sort by usage (if it shows all zeros click it once more to >>flip it to descending sort). Check out what process are taking up cpu > > >>time. Normally, if something is not misbehaving, the System Idle >>Process will show at 98-99%. Whatever is using the cpu, identify it and > > >>if possible eliminate it (if it is not obvious, find it by searching >>your hard drive for the exe/dll. See if anyone claims ownership (i.e. >>microsoft,McAfee) on the files properties pages. If not, you might want > > >>to eliminate it from the config.) >> >>Hope this helps, >> >>JH >> >> >>Chris Lang wrote: >> >>>Hopefully, some of you experts can clear this up: >>> >>>I have PARIS on my home desktop, Windows XP Athlon AMD 1400. >>>I have done all sorts of cleaning, tweaking, etc., and maxed >>>out the RAM at 1GB. Despite all of this work, and the fact that >>>it runs "only" about 26 processes at a time, the CPU load >>>"idles" at about 50%. Wassup??????!!!! >>> >>>My laptop at work, a Compaq Evo N1000v, Pentium 4 XP, on which >>>I have done no tweaking or cleaning, idles at 8-10% CPU load. >>>This is with 41 processes running, including a lot of junk. >>> >>>I have tried two different programs, Spped Up My PC and Tweak >>>XP, with no appreciable effect on the CPU load. >>> >>>Is it my McAfee Virus shield thing? It doesn't show any >>>activity, but is enabled. if I need to disable it, how can I >>>continue to scan incoming e-mail? >>> >>>Any light shed on this would be most welcome!!!! >>> >>>Chris > >Deej, He needs to remember, "LESS IS MORE", be ruthless. Sounds like the stuff is not arranged too well if there are no holes to breath anywhere. BTW, yes, you're right.... -- Martin Harrington www.lendanear-sound.com "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message news:43c2ba35$1@linux... > I'm doing a mix here. We've got a lot of acoustic instruments goin on this > mix and the client/producer/songwriter/arranger is sitting in on the mix > making decisions as t6o which instruments he wants up in the holes in the > mix, since we have many options. The players on this project are really > good > and it's sorta' agonizing for him to sacrifice hearing one part when > another > equally good riff is being played on the same timeline and a decision has > to > be made as to one or the other. Well, this is all part of the game and > just > takes time. What's making me nuts is that the client really respects these > players. These guys, as good as they are, occasionally had a clam or two > as > far as the number of notes that may have been played over a certain > passage. > He doesn't want to change this stuff our of *respect* for the performance. > It just doesn't work in some cases and sounds like a trainwreck in others. > I > can easily fix it in the editor, but he's uncomfortable with this. This > mix > isn't going to work with certain of these unedited passages......it just > won't........trust me. My problem is, and this is why I could never last > long in a band, is that I *know* what needs to be done and everyone else > is > wrong............am I right? > > ;o) > >I see everyone's point here. I'm making an alternative mix (PITA, but nessessary in this case) this project is going to be marketed at his venue on BroadwayNYC and it's going get a lot of exposure elsewhere as well.......plus there's going to be a big CD release party with a lot of critical ears present.....and my name will be all over this as the recording/mix and most likely the mastering engineer as well (I'm really trying to talk him out of that one but his budget is limited at this point) Thanks for the feedback. ;o) "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message news:43c2ba35$1@linux... > I'm doing a mix here. We've got a lot of acoustic instruments goin on this > mix and the client/producer/songwriter/arranger is sitting in on the mix > making decisions as t6o which instruments he wants up in the holes in the > mix, since we have many options. The players on this project are really good > and it's sorta' agonizing for him to sacrifice hearing one part when another > equally good riff is being played on the same timeline and a decision has to > be made as to one or the other. Well, this is all part of the game and just > takes time. What's making me nuts is that the client really respects these > players. These guys, as good as they are, occasionally had a clam or two as > far as the number of notes that may have been played over a certain passage. > He doesn't want to change this stuff our of *respect* for the performance. > It just doesn't work in some cases and sounds like a trainwreck in others. I > can easily fix it in the editor, but he's uncomfortable with this. This mix > isn't going to work with certain of these unedited passages......it just > won't........trust me. My problem is, and this is why I could never last > long in a band, is that I *know* what needs to be done and everyone else is > wrong............am I right? > > ;o) > >Hey guys, thanks so much for all the info....much appreciated! My wife just informed me that her job is offereing a special "friends and family" discount through Dell. I've not seen anything that really seemed that great yet, but I'm still checking. Thanks again!Lou, if memory serves me correctly, you can import projects from 2.2 to 3.0, but not in reverse. Obviously, your 2 track method will work and things should line up if you grid-locked your originating tracks in 3.0. Best of luck! Tyrone "Louis Guarino Jr." <Kateeba@snet.net> wrote: > >It's been a long time, and I remember there was a way, but how do I go back >and fourth betweeen Paris v3.0 and 2.2? > >I have a project in my 3.0, in CT. but I need my friend up un Mass. to add >something on it for me. > >I was going to bring my project up to his house and let him do his thing, >then was hoping to bring it back to my house to do more with it, but he has >v 2.2 and I have v3.0. I thought I remembered a way to go between them. > > >If not...........Can I just bring the 2 track mix of my project to his house, >have him put in in Paris 2.2, and add his music, then bring that back to >my project, and just put his .paf files back into my original project? Would >that line up properly? > >Any suggestions? > >Thanks ............LouSooo, how many producers does it take to change a light bulb? I dunno... waddya YOU think? heh heh Listen, *everyone* thinks they know how something should be mixed, just like everyone knows how something should be arranged and could have done it better if you had just let them. But you have to trust your instincts. We have all left "little" clams in, and lived to regret it haven't we? Some clams work, and some don't. You clearly can tell that these won't. I would do a mix with Mr. Producer absent and then show it to him. This is how Wally Traugott mastered "Dark Side of the Moon". He got the tape via courier, but the producer had not arrived yet from England (I think the producer was Alan Parsons, but don't quote me) so Wally just did it the way he wanted to with no one else in the room. Well, they loved it so much they wouldn't let him change a thing and this is the record we all know and love. The question is whether your producer is man enough to admit it if you nail it. It takes a big heart and small ego to admit that it came out perfectly without his involvement, but if he loves the music more than his ego, he can do so. Whose vision is the right one is a huge subject that deserves a book written on it. Many different visions can produce good results, but only one is likely to lift the track to real success. Just like a good audio engineer knows what a lot of people will call "good sound" a good producer will understand which parts elevate the song and which parts make it boring. For instance, the famous Clapton "Crossroads" solo was never played as such by Eric. It was edited (by Tom Dowd) together from a much longer jam. To this day Eric has to hear "hey man! that was the definitive guitar solo of your career!! Eric hates to hear that, as you can imagine. Sure worked though, didn't it? Tom Dowd had great ears and vision to match. The worst situation of all is when someone simply does not have what it takes to make these decisions, but *needs* to anyway for self-validation or other such bullsh*t. Also, wometimes we resort to standard arrangements,sounds and techniques like it has always been done before, when what the tune needed was doing it "wrong" in a creative way. John Lennon walks in the control room and plugs his guitar into the board. Overdrives the desk like crazy. The engineers are going oh NO!! You can't do that!! But he insisted, and so we have "Revolution". Vision. There is no substitute. If you know how something should be, you should find a way to make it that way if you can. Of course, don't punch out the producer... Well if you do, be sure to post pictures of it... heh DC "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote: >I'm doing a mix here. We've got a lot of acoustic instruments goin on this >mix and the client/producer/songwriter/arranger is sitting in on the mix >making decisions as t6o which instruments he wants up in the holes in the >mix, since we have many options. The players on this project are really good >and it's sorta' agonizing for him to sacrifice hearing one part when another >equally good riff is being played on the same timeline and a decision has to >be made as to one or the other. Well, this is all part of the game and just >takes time. What's making me nuts is that the client really respects these >players. These guys, as good as they are, occasionally had a clam or two as >far as the number of notes that may have been played over a certain passage. >He doesn't want to change this stuff our of *respect* for the performance. >It just doesn't work in some cases and sounds like a trainwreck in others. I >can easily fix it in the editor, but he's uncomfortable with this. This mix >isn't going to work with certain of these unedited passages......it just >won't........trust me. My problem is, and this is why I could never last >long in a band, is that I *know* what needs to be done and everyone else is >wrong............am I right? > >;o) > >I remember Brian T recommending the 48KHz default project years ago, but I just didn't listen because I thoght that I had to have both the clock and the project at 48KHz. In my ongoing hit or miss *lock to external clock* saga, I've pretty much achieved a reliable sync setup with a few toggles of the sync source in Paris from WC to Internal, then back again. However, muy IF2 units haven't been working properly and I like to use them as returns for the cue mix as well as for tracking in large tracking sessions. Well, my default project has been set a 44.1 KHZ. Even though it has been recommended to set this at 48KHz, I've kept it at 44.1 because if I have my WC module set to 48KHz at boot up, I have to set my Paris project to 44.1 (or open up a preexisting 44.1 project) and then scroll through 96KHz to return to 44.1 on my WC. Well, this wrecke the timing in Paris.........thus the default project and the clock being set at 44.1. Well guess ****'in what????.........I can set my default project.ppj to 48KHz with the clock still set at 44.1Khz and everything locks up tight as a drum, including my IF2 modules. then all I have to do is just open an existing 44.1 .ppj and I'm good to go without all of this toggling back and forth crap. Pointy hat is thoroughly ensconsced upon head right about now. Deejwish I had me some IF2s.... You're a pimp! "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message news:43c2d446$1@linux... >I remember Brian T recommending the 48KHz default project years ago, but I > just didn't listen because I thoght that I had to have both the clock and > the project at 48KHz. > > In my ongoing hit or miss *lock to external clock* saga, I've pretty much > achieved a reliable sync setup with a few toggles of the sync source in > Paris from WC to Internal, then back again. However, muy IF2 units haven't > been working properly and I like to use them as returns for the cue mix as > well as for tracking in large tracking sessions. Well, my default project > has been set a 44.1 KHZ. Even though it has been recommended to set this > at > 48KHz, I've kept it at 44.1 because if I have my WC module set to 48KHz at > boot up, I have to set my Paris project to 44.1 (or open up a preexisting > 44.1 project) and then scroll through 96KHz to return to 44.1 on my WC. > Well, this wrecke the timing in Paris.........thus the default project and > the clock being set at 44.1. Well guess ****'in what????.........I can set > my default project.ppj to 48KHz with the clock still set at 44.1Khz and > everything locks up tight as a drum, including my IF2 modules. then all I > have to do is just open an existing 44.1 .ppj and I'm good to go without > all > of this toggling back and forth crap. > > Pointy hat is thoroughly ensconsced upon head right about now. > > Deej > >You can certainly go from 2.2 to 3 by simply loading the project on 3. There is a method of getting from version 3 back to 2.2 also. I'm 80% sure that it simply involved removing every single Aux bus effect (including sends I think) from the 3 project and then you could simply load it in 2.2. You just need to set everything aux send related back to what it defaults to and the project will load back in to 2.2. ....I think... ....I know it is possible. I have done it. Cheers, Kim. "Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote: > >Lou, if memory serves me correctly, you can import projects from 2.2 to 3.0, >but not in reverse. Obviously, your 2 track method will work and things should >line up if you grid-locked your originating tracks in 3.0. > >Best of luck! > >Tyrone > >"Louis Guarino Jr." <Kateeba@snet.net> wrote: >> >>It's been a long time, and I remember there was a way, but how do I go back >>and fourth betweeen Paris v3.0 and 2.2? >> >>I have a project in my 3.0, in CT. but I need my friend up un Mass. to add >>something on it for me. >> >>I was going to bring my project up to his house and let him do his thing, >>then was hoping to bring it back to my house to do more with it, but he >has >>v 2.2 and I have v3.0. I thought I remembered a way to go between them. >> >> >>If not...........Can I just bring the 2 track mix of my project to his house, >>have him put in in Paris 2.2, and add his music, then bring that back to >>my project, and just put his .paf files back into my original project? >Would >>that line up properly? >> >>Any suggestions? >> >>Thanks ............Lou >"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote: >My problem is, and this is why I could never last >long in a band, is that I *know* what needs to be done and everyone else is >wrong............am I right? I did post, did I not, the diagram of the live setup I have created in order that I can create a full band sound live on stage all by myself without anybody else playing with me and hence playing the wrong thing. ;o) I've been right for a long time, it's just other people are wrong so often that they can't see it. ;o) Cheers, Kim.I actually remember that. I always though it funny that you had no problems with not having your default set at 48. I, on the other hand, listened to the wisdom of the master. 80P Rod "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote: >I remember Brian T recommending the 48KHz default project years ago, but I >just didn't listen because I thoght that I had to have both the clock and >the project at 48KHz. > >In my ongoing hit or miss *lock to external clock* saga, I've pretty much >achieved a reliable sync setup with a few toggles of the sync source in >Paris from WC to Internal, then back again. However, muy IF2 units haven't >been working properly and I like to use them as returns for the cue mix as >well as for tracking in large tracking sessions. Well, my default project >has been set a 44.1 KHZ. Even though it has been recommended to set this at >48KHz, I've kept it at 44.1 because if I have my WC module set to 48KHz at >boot up, I have to set my Paris project to 44.1 (or open up
is will remove the original copy), 3) Reboot, install 3.0, Reboot. Now you can use the installed 3.0, and also still run the 2.x copy wherever you have it. You can even move it back to the original location. Kim wrote: > You can certainly go from 2.2 to 3 by simply loading the project on 3. There > is a method of getting from version 3 back to 2.2 also. I'm 80% sure that > it simply involved removing every single Aux bus effect (including sends > I think) from the 3 project and then you could simply load it in 2.2. You > just need to set everything aux send related back to what it defaults to > and the project will load back in to 2.2. > > ...I think... > > ...I know it is possible. I have done it. > > Cheers, > Kim. > > "Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote: > >>Lou, if memory serves me correctly, you can import projects from 2.2 to > > 3.0, > >>but not in reverse. Obviously, your 2 track method will work and things > > should > >>line up if you grid-locked your originating tracks in 3.0. >> >>Best of luck! >> >>Tyrone >> >>"Louis Guarino Jr." <Kateeba@snet.net> wrote: >> >>>It's been a long time, and I remember there was a way, but how do I go > > back > >>>and fourth betweeen Paris v3.0 and 2.2? >>> >>>I have a project in my 3.0, in CT. but I need my friend up un Mass. to > > add > >>>something on it for me. >>> >>>I was going to bring my project up to his house and let him do his thing, >>>then was hoping to bring it back to my house to do more with it, but he >> >>has >> >>>v 2.2 and I have v3.0. I thought I remembered a way to go between them. >>> >>> >>>If not...........Can I just bring the 2 track mix of my project to his > > house, > >>>have him put in in Paris 2.2, and add his music, then bring that back to >>>my project, and just put his .paf files back into my original project? > > >>Would >> >>>that line up properly? >>> >>>Any suggestions? >>> >>>Thanks ............Lou >> >Well, I must not have been good last year cuz when I asked justcron for only 3 presents (ski boat, jet ski and motocross, though I did add on some yorkville monitors and an allen and heath 16:2 mixwizard) he only sent me one and it wasn't even one of them on my list. Imagine my wife's surprise when she opened a fedex box with live "lobster" cochroaches. I just thank you for keeping them in a plastic container. It was hilarious to me but my wife was freaking out, seriously freaking out. Meanwhile I'm reading to her how they make great pets (according to the enclosed document) but she really didn't want to adopt them. Sorry. I mean you could have just sent a bag of primo weed (it's still not too late)! hehe Merry Christmas Justcron and I thought it was hilarous. JohnI do hate to hurt gods creatures, but I must say, yumm, Did he send any live oysters? Oh I loves me some oysters. Chrin is from up here in Boston right? John <no@no.com> wrote: >Well, I must not have been good last year cuz when I asked justcron for >only 3 presents (ski boat, jet ski and motocross, though I did add on >some yorkville monitors and an allen and heath 16:2 mixwizard) he only >sent me one and it wasn't even one of them on my list. > >Imagine my wife's surprise when she opened a fedex box with live >"lobster" cochroaches. I just thank you for keeping them in a plastic >container. It was hilarious to me but my wife was freaking out, >seriously freaking out. Meanwhile I'm reading to her how they make >great pets (according to the enclosed document) but she really didn't >want to adopt them. Sorry. I mean you could have just sent a bag of >primo weed (it'
t;>> add on some yorkville monitors and an allen and heath 16:2 mixwizard) >>> he only sent me one and it wasn't even one of them on my list. >>> >>> Imagine my wife's surprise when she opened a fedex box with live >>> "lobster" cochroaches. I just thank you for keeping them in a >>> plastic container. It was hilarious to me but my wife was freaking >>> out, seriously freaking out. Meanwhile I'm reading to her how they >>> make great pets (according to the enclosed document) but she really >>> didn't want to adopt them. Sorry. I mean you could have just sent a >>> bag of primo weed (it's still not too late)! hehe >>> >>> Merry Christmas Justcron and I thought it was hilarous. >>> >>> John >> >> >> >>Yeah....The TD is cool isn't it? As for my formerly unprocessed mix, well......uhhh.....yeah.....it sounds really good unprocessed.......it sounds even better with some Distressors here and there, an Avalon EQ and comp, a TL Audio tube EQ fronting an RNC into a pair of Jensen JT11's, a couple of UAD-1 Pultecs and an 1176, etc. So much for *purity*......;o) "John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote in message news:43c1bc58$1@linux... > > I finally got around to getting a Transient Designer, and I > wonder why I waited--very cool piece :) > > > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote: > >I'm processing one of the kick tracks ( mic on beater) and one of the snare > >tracks (underneath on snares) with a touch of my SPL TD, other than that, > >what my ears are telling me right now is that the rest of this mix will > only > >be processed with a little subtractive and shelving EQ and some > >ambience......no compressors....at least not yet. Much of this has to do > >with using Cubase into Paris, I think. There's something *gluey* going on > >here with just a touch of the NoLimit on the mix bus that I'm liking. We'll > >see as this goes along. > > > > >Wait, Are you saying he shipped actual cockroaches? I thought he sent you Lobsters. Those do look like big bugs John <no@no.com> wrote: >Hey, I tried smoking those roaches but they won't stay lit ! > >John wrote: >> I was really hoping you were some rich nut and was just going to blow >> about $50k for shock value. I'm still open to that :-) hehe >> >> justcron wrote: >> >>> The website said they make good pets! >>> >>> :) >>> >>> all in good fun amigo. >>> >>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:43c2e8e7@linux... >>> >>>> Well, I must not have been good last year cuz when I asked justcron >>>> for only 3 presents (ski boat, jet ski and motocross, though I did >>>> add on some yorkville monitors and an allen and heath 16:2 mixwizard) >>>> he only sent me one and it wasn't even one of them on my list. >>>> >>>> Imagine my wife's surprise when she opened a fedex box with live >>>> "lobster" cochroaches. I just thank you for keeping them in a >>>> plastic container. It was hilarious to me but my wife was freaking >>>> out, seriously freaking out. Meanwhile I'm reading to her how they >>>> make great pets (according to the enclosed document) but she really >>>> didn't want to adopt them. Sorry. I mean you could have just sent a >>>> bag of primo weed (it's still not too late)! hehe >>>> >>>> Merry Christmas Justcron and I thought it was hilarous. >>>> >>>> John >>> >>> >>> >>>I love google but John, you don;t get the Impressive Defensive Smell, from http://www.angelfire.com/oh2/Roaches/ The Lobster cockroach is commonly kept in the U.S. but usually just as a food source... due to their ease of rearing and palatability. The body of this roach is soft enough for almost all predators, there is a high meat to shell ratio, they do not seem to be able to hide as well as many other roaches, and finally, they do not have the impressive defensive smell of many roaches. "Cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote: > > >Wait, Are you saying he shipped actual cockroaches? >I thought he sent you Lobsters. Those do look like big bugs > > >John <no@no.com> wrote: >>Hey, I tried smoking those roaches but they won't stay lit ! >> >>John wrote: >>> I was really hoping you were some rich nut and was just going to blow > >>> about $50k for shock value. I'm still open to that :-) hehe >>> >>> justcron wrote: >>> >>>> The website said they make good pets! >>>> >>>> :) >>>> >>>> all in good fun amigo. >>>> >>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:43c2e8e7@linux... >>>> >>>>> Well, I must not have been good last year cuz when I asked justcron > >>>>> for only 3 presents (ski boat, jet ski and motocross, though I did >>>>> add on some yorkville monitors and an allen and heath 16:2 mixwizard) > >>>>> he only sent me one and it wasn't even one of them on my list. >>>>> >>>>> Imagine my wife's surprise when she opened a fedex box with live >>>>> "lobster" cochroaches. I just thank you for keeping them in a >>>>> plastic container. It was hilarious to me but my wife was freaking >>>>> out, seriously freaking out. Meanwhile I'm reading to her how they > >>>>> make great pets (according to the enclosed document) but she really > >>>>> didn't want to adopt them. Sorry. I mean you could have just sent a > >>>>> bag of primo weed (it's still not too late)! hehe >>>>> >>>>> Merry Christmas Justcron and I thought it was hilarous. >>>>> >>>>> John >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>In the Treepad info under "XP setup" there are some recommendations for OS, Temp, Data, and swap files. It does require more that 2 drives though. Edna "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:43c2f853@linux... > Running XP on Drive 1 and using drive 2 for Paris audio files, should I > keep the swap file on drive 1 or should it go on drive 2? I have 512 > ram currently. Thanks, > Johncujo, i'm saying actual cockroaches !!!!!!!!! There were about 20 of em in a clear plastic container. Cujo wrote: > Wait, Are you saying he shipped actual cockroaches? > I thought he sent you Lobsters. Those do look like big bugs > > > John <no@no.com> wrote: > >>Hey, I tried smoking those roaches but they won't stay lit ! >> >>John wrote: >> >>>I was really hoping you were some rich nut and was just going to blow > > >>>about $50k for shock value. I'm still open to that :-) hehe >>> >>>justcron wrote: >>> >>> >>>>The website said they make good pets! >>>> >>>>:) >>>> >>>>all in good fun amigo. >>>> >>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:43c2e8e7@linux... >>>> >>>> >>>>>Well, I must not have been good last year cuz when I asked justcron > > >>>>>for only 3 presents (ski boat, jet ski and motocross, though I did >>>>>add on some yorkville monitors and an allen and heath 16:2 mixwizard) > > >>>>>he only sent me one and it wasn't even one of them on my list. >>>>> >>>>>Imagine my wife's surprise when she opened a fedex box with live >>>>>"lobster" cochroaches. I just thank you for keeping them in a >>>>>plastic container. It was hilarious to me but my wife was freaking >>>>>out, seriously freaking out. Meanwhile I'm reading to her how they > > >>>>>make great pets (according to the enclosed document) but she really > > >>>>>didn't want to adopt them. Sorry. I mean you could have just sent a > > >>>>>bag of primo weed (it's still not too late)! hehe >>>>> >>>>>Merry Christmas Justcron and I thought it was hilarous. >>>>> >>>>>John >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>I leave mine on C - never had any issues. Ideally, you'd kill the swap and buy a boatload of RAM but I've found that XP handles it a LllLLLLoooottts better than 98/ME and it isn't necessary anymore. Just give it at least 512, GB if you can and let it ride factory settings. AA "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:43c2f853@linux... > Running XP on Drive 1 and using drive 2 for Paris audio files, should I > keep the swap file on drive 1 or should it go on drive 2? I have 512 ram > currently. Thanks, > JohnWhen you get ready Tyrone, gimme a shout. I'll walk you through it bro. AA "Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbnett@comcast.net> wrote in message news:43c2cf82$1@linux... > > Hey guys, thanks so much for all the info....much appreciated! My wife > just > informed me that her job is offereing a special "friends and family" > discount > through Dell. I've not seen anything that really seemed that great yet, > but > I'm still checking. > > Thanks again!You got it Kim.. kill ALL auxes and it should load up in 2.xx just fine from a version 3 save. Worst case, send the dude rendered stem tracks and have him render a final track(s) for you starting at the same time on all of them to import to your project. AA "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43c2d8c3$1@linux... > > > You can certainly go from 2.2 to 3 by simply loading the project on 3. > There > is a method of getting from version 3 back to 2.2 also. I'm 80% sure that > it simply involved removing every single Aux bus effect (including sends > I think) from the 3 project and then you could simply load it in 2.2. You > just need to set everything aux send related back to what it defaults to > and the project will load back in to 2.2. > > ...I think... > > ...I know it is possible. I have done it. > > Cheers, > Kim. > > "Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote: >> >>Lou, if memory serves me correctly, you can import projects from 2.2 to > 3.0, >>but not in reverse. Obviously, your 2 track method will work and things > should >>line up if you grid-locked your originating tracks in 3.0. >> >>Best of luck! >> >>Tyrone >> >>"Louis Guarino Jr." <Kateeba@snet.net> wrote: >>> >>>It's been a long time, and I remember there was a way, but how do I go > back >>>and fourth betweeen Paris v3.0 and 2.2? >>> >>>I have a project in my 3.0, in CT. but I need my friend up un Mass. to > add >>>something on it for me. >>> >>>I was going to bring my project up to his house and let him do his thing, >>>then was hoping to bring it back to my house to do more with it, but he >>has >>>v 2.2 and I have v3.0. I thought I remembered a way to go between >>>them. >>> >>> >>>If not...........Can I just bring the 2 track mix of my project to his > house, >>>have him put in in Paris 2.2, and add his music, then bring that back to >>>my project, and just put his .paf files back into my original project? > >>Would >>>that line up properly? >>> >>>Any suggestions? >>> >>>Thanks ............Lou >> >"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote: >Just give it at least 512GB if you can... WOOHA!! That's a big swap file... or ram... or whatever it is you were saying. ;o) I assume you're saying give XP at least 512MB of ram?Correct, give XP 512 or better. However in the scheme of things a swap file is typically 1.5 times the amount of RAM you have. Given that, 512 ain't so much :) AA "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43c315c1$1@linux... > > "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote: >>Just give it at least 512GB if you can... > > WOOHA!! That's a big swap file... or ram... or whatever it is you were > saying. ;o) > > I assume you're saying give XP at least 512MB of ram?A lot could be said here. I think you should talk him in to recutting the necessary parts, kind of a, A mix/cut, B mix/cut. Tell him this wouldn't be redoing everything, this would be giving him more options to choose from. Offer to do this for free, tell him you just want the project to be all that it can be. Tell him you know your stuff, and ask him to trust you. Tell him you'd feel much better about the project this way. This would give him more choices, plus he would have the final say anyways. Tell him that this would be a chance for you to really show him what you can do (What you can really do for him!). If he doesn't like it he won't have to use it, but you think more than likely he would use at least some of the recuts. If he goes for it, do your own great mix and present it to him. Then tell him that if he uses it you wouldn't want any extra credits. Hopefully he will hear/see the light. I know you love your work, so doing extra work for free won't kill you, putting out a piece of crap with your name on it would. Remember, it never goes quite the way you would like it to in life. Good luck! James "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote: >I'm doing a mix here. We've got a lot of acoustic instruments goin on this >mix and the client/producer/songwriter/arranger is sitting in on the mix >making decisions as t6o which instruments he wants up in the holes in the >mix, since we have many options. The players on this project are really good >and it's sorta' agonizing for him to sacrifice hearing one part when another >equally good riff is being played on the same timeline and a decision has to >be made as to one or the other. Well, this is all part of the game and just >takes time. What's making me nuts is that the client really respects these >players. These guys, as good as they are, occasionally had a clam or two as >far as the number of notes that may have been played over a certain passage. >He doesn't want to change this stuff our of *respect* for the performance. >It just doesn't work in some cases and sounds like a trainwreck in others. I >can easily fix it in the editor, but he's uncomfortable with this. This mix >isn't going to work with certain of these unedited passages......it just >won't........trust me. My problem is, and this is why I could never last >long in a band, is that I *know* what needs to be done and everyone else is >wrong............am I right? > >;o) > >John <no@no.com> wrote: >cujo, i'm saying actual cockroaches !!!!!!!!! There were about 20 of >em in a clear plastic container. And here I thought you guys were talking about attorneys. Same difference to me. > >Cujo wrote: >> Wait, Are you saying he shipped actual cockroaches? >> I thought he sent you Lobsters. Those do look like big bugs >> >> >> John <no@no.com> wrote: >> >>>Hey, I tried smoking those roaches but they won't stay lit ! >>> >>>John wrote: >>> >>>>I was really hoping you were some rich nut and was just going to blow >> >> >>>>about $50k for shock value. I'm still open to that :-) hehe >>>> >>>>justcron wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>The website said they make good pets! >>>>> >>>>>:) >>>>> >>>>>all in good fun amigo. >>>>> >>>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:43c2e8e7@linux... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Well, I must not have been good last year cuz when I asked justcron >> >> >>>>>>for only 3 presents (ski boat, jet ski and motocross, though I did >>>>>>add on some yorkville monitors and an allen and heath 16:2 mixwizard) >> >> >>>>>>he only sent me one and it wasn't even one of them on my list. >>>>>> >>>>>>Imagine my wife's surprise when she opened a fedex box with live >>>>>>"lobster" cochroaches. I just thank you for keeping them in a >>>>>>plastic container. It was hilarious to me but my wife was freaking >>>>>>out, seriously freaking out. Meanwhile I'm reading to her how they >> >> >>>>>>make great pets (according to the enclosed document) but she really >> >> >>>>>>didn't want to adopt them. Sorry. I mean you could have just sent a >> >> >>>>>>bag of primo weed (it's still not too late)! hehe >>>>>> >>>>>>Merry Christmas Justcron and I thought it was hilarous. >>>>>> >>>>>>John >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Doh, I just got this.. there be a comma in between that 512 and GB pardner LOL AA "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43c315c1$1@linux... > > "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote: >>Just give it at least 512GB if you can... > > WOOHA!! That's a big swap file... or ram... or whatever it is you were > saying. ;o) > > I assume you're saying give XP at least 512MB of ram?OH! Right I get it... ok, that makes more sense. ;o) Cheers, Kim. "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote: >Doh, I just got this.. there be a comma in between that 512 and GB pardner >LOL > >AA > >"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43c315c1$1@linux... >> >> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote: >>>Just give it at least 512GB if you can... >> >> WOOHA!! That's a big swap file... or ram... or whatever it is you were >> saying. ;o) >> >> I assume you're saying give XP at least 512MB of ram? > >yeah, sorry man.. my humor hasn't arrived yet for the night, I'm still in the day gig 'computer guy' mode running remote admin stuff. AA "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43c3224a@linux... > > > OH! Right I get it... ok, that makes more sense. ;o) > > Cheers, > Kim. > > "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote: >>Doh
/> >>one and it wasn't even one of them on my list. >> >>Imagine my wife's surprise when she opened a fedex box with live "lobster" >>cochroaches. I just thank you for keeping them in a plastic container. >>It was hilarious to me but my wife was freaking out, seriously freaking >>out. Meanwhile I'm reading to her how they make great pets (according to >>the enclosed document) but she really didn't want to adopt them. Sorry. >>I mean you could have just sent a bag of primo weed (it's still not too >>late)! hehe >> >>Merry Christmas Justcron and I thought it was hilarous. >> >>John > > >Running XP on Drive 1 and using drive 2 for Paris audio files, should I keep the swap file on drive 1 or should it go on drive 2? I have 512 ram currently. Thanks, Johnanyone? Rod? DJ? John wrote: > is there an app that can measure the latencies or a table that has them > all listed ? > > John wrote: > >> how do you measure/find out the latency of vst and dx plugs?General wisdom is often that your swap file should be on drive 2, however for audio use I often figure it's better to be on drive 1 with the OS, so that drive 2 is left alone to deal with audio streaming. The last thing you want is for the drive to be interrupted when it's somewhere 3/4 of the way through the drive streaming 30 tracks, and have to skip to the start of the drive to edit the swap file then back to the end of the drive again before a streaming error occurs. I figure leave the OS and swap file together on drive 1 so that drive 2 only has to deal with audio, which is the hardest part of the job obviously. Cheers, Kim. John <no@no.com> wrote: >Running XP on Drive 1 and using drive 2 for Paris audio files, should I >keep the swap file on drive 1 or should it go on drive 2? I have 512 >ram currently. Thanks, >JohnHere's some posts from the NG archives that may help you: A list of zero latency plugins. Long thread too... pretty sure you'll find a lot of others listed in the thread. http://news.parisnewsgroup.com/cgi-bin/dnewsweb?cmd=article& amp;group=IDEA.EMUEnsoniqPARIS&item=169304&utag= Brian T on how to measure latency: http://news.parisnewsgroup.com/cgi-bin/dnewsweb?cmd=article& amp;group=IDEA.EMUEnsoniqPARIS&item=141875&utag= Cheers, Kim. John <no@no.com> wrote: >anyone? Rod? DJ? > >John wrote: >> is there an app that can measure the latencies or a table that has them >> all listed ? >> >> John wrote: >> >>> how do you measure/find out the latency of vst and dx plugs?PS. The search button on the web interface is a wonderful thing. ;o) Cheers, Kim. "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote: > > >Here's some posts from the NG archives that may help you: > >A list of zero latency plugins. Long thread too... pretty sure you'll find >a lot of others listed in the thread. > http://news.parisnewsgroup.com/cgi-bin/dnewsweb?cmd=article& amp;group=IDEA.EMUEnsoniqPARIS&item=169304&utag= > >Brian T on how to measure latency: > http://news.parisnewsgroup.com/cgi-bin/dnewsweb?cmd=article& amp;group=IDEA.EMUEnsoniqPARIS&item=141875&utag= > >Cheers, >Kim. > >John <no@no.com> wrote: >>anyone? Rod? DJ? >> >>John wrote: >>> is there an app that can measure the latencies or a table that has them > >>> all listed ? >>> >>> John wrote: >>> >>>> how do you measure/find out the latency of vst and dx plugs? >Hey, I tried smoking those roaches but they won't stay lit ! John wrote: > I was really hoping you were some rich nut and was just going to blow > about $50k for shock value. I'm still open to that :-) hehe > > justcron wrote: > >> The website said they make good pets! >> >> :) >> >> all in good fun amigo. >> >> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:43c2e8e7@linux... >> >>> Well, I must not have been good last year cuz when I asked justcron >>> for only 3 presents (ski boat, jet ski and motocross, though I did &g
>>>> I have done all sorts of cleaning, tweaking, etc., and maxed >>>> out the RAM at 1GB. Despite all of this work, and the fact that >>>> it runs "only" about 26 processes at a time, the CPU load >>>> "idles" at about 50%. Wassup??????!!!! >>>> >>>> My laptop at work, a Compaq Evo N1000v, Pentium 4 XP, on which >>>> I have done no tweaking or cleaning, idles at 8-10% CPU load. >>>> This is with 41 processes running, including a lot of junk. >>>> >>>> I have tried two different programs, Spped Up My PC and Tweak >>>> XP, with no appreciable effect on the CPU load. >>>> >>>> Is it my McAfee Virus shield thing? It doesn't show any >>>> activity, but is enabled. if I need to disable it, how can I >>>> continue to scan incoming e-mail? >>>> >>>> Any light shed on this would be most welcome!!!! >>>> >>>> Chris >>> >>>-- >>>Chris Ludwig >>>ADK >>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com> >>>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/> >>>(859) 635-5762 >> >He just left. I put the mix up that I did this afternoon. It differs quite a bit from the one we did last night. I carved out the sloppy clams and retuned the notes that were butting heads that I thought would work for what we were trying to achieve. I also did some comping of this and that and dropped it on the4 timeline where needed. I took him on a tour of both mixes and showed him exactly what I did and why. He loved it. We just finished remixing the song with a few more decisions he made based on my basic groundwork. I think they were good decisions. His last words before leaving tonight were" OK man, you just go ahead and get it done and call me when you feel like we're close. I trust your judgment." Life is good. :o) "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43c31d75$1@linux... > > A lot could be said here. > > I think you should talk him in to recutting the necessary parts, kind of > a, A mix/cut, B mix/cut. Tell him this wouldn't be redoing everything, this > would be giving him more options to choose from. Offer to do this for free, > tell him you just want the project to be all that it can be. Tell him you > know your stuff, and ask him to trust you. Tell him you'd feel much better > about the project this way. This would give him more choices, plus he would > have the final say anyways. Tell him that this would be a chance for you > to really show him what you can do (What you can really do for him!). If > he doesn't like it he won't have to use it, but you think more than likely > he would use at least some of the recuts. > > If he goes for it, do your own great mix and present it to him. Then tell > him that if he uses it you wouldn't want any extra credits. Hopefully he > will hear/see the light. > > I know you love your work, so doing extra work for free won't kill you, putting > out a piece of crap with your name on it would. > > Remember, it never goes quite the way you would like it to in life. > > Good luck! > > James > > > > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote: > >I'm doing a mix here. We've got a lot of acoustic instruments goin on this > >mix and the client/producer/songwriter/arranger is sitting in on the mix > >making decisions as t6o which instruments he wants up in the holes in the > >mix, since we have many options. The players on this project are really > good > >and it's sorta' agonizing for him to sacrifice hearing one part when another > >equally good riff is being played on the same timeline and a decision has > to > >be made as to one or the other. Well, this is all part of the game and just > >takes time. What's making me nuts is that the client really respects these > >players. These guys, as good as they are, occasionally had a clam or two > as > >far as the number of notes that may have been played over a certain passage. > >He doesn't want to change this stuff our of *respect* for the performance. > >It just doesn't work in some cases and sounds like a trainwreck in others. > I > >can easily fix it in the editor, but he's uncomfortable with this. This > mix > >isn't going to work with certain of these unedited passages......it just > >won't........trust me. My problem is, and this is why I could never last > >long in a band, is that I *know* what needs to be done and everyone else > is > >wrong............am I right? > > > >;o) > > > >Yes! Good result. Sounds like a good guy. DC "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote: >He just left. I put the mix up that I did this afternoon. It differs quite a >bit from the one we did last night. I carved out the sloppy clams and >retuned the notes that were butting heads that I thought would work for what >we were trying to achieve. I also did some comping of this and that and >dropped it on the4 timeline where needed. I took him on a tour of both mixes >and showed him exactly what I did and why. > >He loved it. We just finished remixing the song with a few more decisions he >made based on my basic groundwork. I think they were good decisions. His >last words before leaving tonight were" OK man, you just go ahead and get it >done and call me when you feel like we're close. I trust your judgment." > >Life is good. > >:o) > > >"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message >news:43c31d75$1@linux... >> >> A lot could be said here. >> >> I think you should talk him in to recutting the necessary parts, kind of >> a, A mix/cut, B mix/cut. Tell him this wouldn't be redoing everything, >this >> would be giving him more options to choose from. Offer to do this for >free, >> tell him you just want the project to be all that it can be. Tell him >you >> know your stuff, and ask him to trust you. Tell him you'd feel much >better >> about the project this way. This would give him more choices, plus he >would >> have the final say anyways. Tell him that this would be a chance for you >> to really show him what you can do (What you can really do for him!). If >> he doesn't like it he won't have to use it, but you think more than likely >> he would use at least some of the recuts. >> >> If he goes for it, do your own great mix and present it to him. Then tell >> him that if he uses it you wouldn't want any extra credits. Hopefully he >> will hear/see the light. >> >> I know you love your work, so doing extra work for free won't kill you, >putting >> out a piece of crap with your name on it would. >> >> Remember, it never goes quite the way you would like it to in life. >> >> Good luck! >> >> James >> >> >> >> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote: >> >I'm doing a mix here. We've got a lot of acoustic instruments goin on >this >> >mix and the client/producer/songwriter/arranger is sitting in on the mix >> >making decisions as t6o which instruments he wants up in the holes in the >> >mix, since we have many options. The players on this project are really >> good >> >and it's sorta' agonizing for him to sacrifice hearing one part when >another >> >equally good riff is being played on the same timeline and a decision has >> to >> >be made as to one or the other. Well, this is all part of the game and >just >> >takes time. What's making me nuts is that the client really respects >these >> >players. These guys, as good as they are, occasionally had a clam or two >> as >> >far as the number of notes that may have been played over a certain >passage. >> >He doesn't want to change this stuff our of *respect* for the >performance. >> >It just doesn't work in some cases and sounds like a trainwreck in >others. >> I >> >can easily fix it in the editor, but he's uncomfortable with this. This >> mix >> >isn't going to work with certain of these unedited passages......it just >> >won't........trust me. My problem is, and this is why I could never last >> >long in a band, is that I *know* what needs to be done and everyone else >> is >> >wrong............am I right? >> > >> >;o) >> > >> > > >Hi Chris, No significant difference when rewired that I've noticed (although I haven't A/B'd mixes to be sure) - the main differences are using better reverbs, etc. It doesn't sound bad on its' own, but it does sound better remixed elsewhere with better fx plugins. I think an earlier version sounded pretty lame in general due to a limited mix engine, but that seems to be better now. Reason synths and effects just aren't designed to be monster emulations, but rather a compromise between sound and cpu efficiency. That is where I think Reason shines - you get a lot of sound and creativity capability for a modest cpu hit - it seems to be a rather efficiently coded app. Regards, Dedric PS: I wrote a review of it for Audiomidi.com if anyone is interested in a little more info, at least from my perspective (assuming I actually know what I'm talking about, which is always open for debate ;-). On 1/9/06 8:54 PM, in article 43c32fad$1@linux, "Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote: > HI Dedric, > You dead on in your description. > > Do you notice that it sound better when rewired thru Nuendo? > > Chris > > Dedric Terry wrote: > >> Using it here with Nuendo via rewire - works great. There are other synths >> and effects that sound better than comparable components in Reason, but for >> putting together electronica, dance, and even pop or rap rhythm tracks it's >> a cool app. It's also a great app to use for some composing work on the >> road on a laptop as it's cpu friendly - you can get a lot of tracks/sounds >> going pretty easily for sketching out ideas. >> >> Combinator patches are a bit more applicable for standalone synth use since >> you can layer/combine synths and effects to create broader and more dynamic >> sounds. >> >> For the money, it's a lot of fun, and can be quite useful. I believe the >> track for the show Alias was composed on a laptop with Reason, FWIW. >> >> I'm doing some tracks in it, but remixing in Nuendo for better reverbs, EQ, >> etc. >> >> Dedric >> >> On 1/6/06 10:44 AM, in article 43be9e63$1@linux, "Pete Ruthenburg" >> <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >> >> >>> So is anybody using this?Seems like it could be useful or is it >>> just popular with the electronica/dance crowd?Obviously the >>> orchestral type sounds don't compare to other libraries,but it >>> seems like you get alot for the money. >>> Or is that the selling point;alot of good but not great sounds >>> for the money. >>> >>> Pete >> >>How do you route a fader to spdif John <no@no.com> wrote: >No, you only have to assign the fader (that you routed to spdif) to >another fader on the same submix. Not the example routes the processed >channel 10 to 11 on the same submix. > >Clifford Coulter wrote: >> Thanks John I think I got it. >> >> It looks like you have to assign the track to a seperate sub mix >> I hope thats it >> >> Clifford >> >> John <no@no.com> wrote: >> >>>You can route to the SPDIF out and then back in on a different channel. >>> >>>SPDIF Rendering >>>-------------------------- >>>Patchbay workaround for bouncing tracks and rendering plugins >>> >>>Tired of zeroing/clearing a mix to bounce a track or tracks to a new >>>file? Or wish you could render native plugins while listening and >>>adjusting in context. No problem. >>> >>>Open the Patch Bay. Clear all your SPDIF I/O connections. Physically (as >> >> >>>in, on the back of your Paris 442 or MEC) loop your Paris SPDIF in to >>>your Paris SPDIF out with a short cable. Go back to the Patch Bay. >>> >>>In the Patch Bay, connect the "Mixer Insert" SEND of the source channel >> >> >>>for the bounce to the left SPDIF output (dL) on your 442 or MEC. Connect >> >> >>>the SPDIF left input (dL) back to the same channel's "Mixer Insert" >>>Return to complete the loop. Now connect the same left SPDIF output to >>>the "Submixer Input" of the Destination channel you want to >>>bounce/record to. Select "External" on the EDS insert on the source channel. >>> >>>Enable Record on the Destination channel. That's it. Record away. You >> >> >>>can use your mixer normally while you bounce with no ill effect. And in >> >> >>>a case of good fortune, since the EDS inserts are after the native >>>inserts, any active plugins will be printed while bouncing. Great for >>>rendering AutoTune or various other plugin settings for different song >>>sections. For the price of time and disk space, you have unlimited plugins. >>> >>>Example. You have a track on track 10 and you want to render this to >>>track 11. In the Patchbay: >>> Mixer-A channel 11 connects to MEC-Master-A Digital In Left >>> MEC-Master-A Digital In Left connects to Mixer-A-Insert Return10 >>> MEC-Master-A Digital Out Left connects to Mixer-A-Insert Send10 >>> Select "External" on the EDS insert on the source channel. >>> >>> >>>Clifford Coulter wrote: >>> >>>>Hello >>>> >>>>I have a 2 EDS card Paris System and a Mec. with no extra cards in it >>>>running on a Macintosh >>>>I would like to know if it is possible to route Channel one to the Digital >>>>out >>>>and send it to my other computer, process it and send back to the Digital >>>>in and route it back into channel one >>>> >>>>if not how do I get any channel routed to an external device and back >> >> into >> >>>>PARIS >>>> >>>>Thanks >>>> >>>>Clifford >>>> >> >>sheesh.. I mean * www.microsoft.com * "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message news:43c340ac$1@linux... > you got a spyware problem bro? > > Go to http:\\housecall.antivirus.com and scan the whole computer. Sounds > like a hidden process to me. > Also, go to www.micorosoft.com and get their sony rootkit tool if you > think there's even a "slight" chance you put a Sony audio CD in your drive > that has this malware built in > > AA > > > > "Chris Lang" <yo@yo.yo> wrote in message news:43c33ec6$1@linux... >> >> OK, so I disabled all McAfee-related processes, and anything >> else that looked expendable. No effect. None. CPU load >> still hovering at 50+%. The task manager screen shows nothing >> happening; just System Idle. at 93-99. Yet somehow, the CPU >> load remains at 50+. >> >> Any other ideas? Thanks, Chris >> >> >> "Chris Lang" <yo@yo.yo> wrote: >>> >>>K7T Turbo 2... >>> >>>In response to Jeff's earlier question, the task manager >>>screen has a reading of the CPU load, as does the main >>>screen in the WinTask program; Tweak XP also agrees that >>>it is at 50%. >>> >>>I will try DJ's suggestion to disable all the McAfee stuff. >>> >>> >>>Thanks to everyone for your input- Chris >>> >>> >>> >>>Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote: >>>>Hi Chris, >>>>What motherboard are you using? >>>> >>>>Chris >>>> >>>> >>>>Chris Lang wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hopefully, some of you experts can clear this up: >>>>> >>>>> I have PARIS on my home desktop, Windows XP Athlon AMD 1400. >>>>> I have done all sorts of cleaning, tweaking, etc., and maxed >>>>> out the RAM at 1GB. Despite all of this work, and the fact that >>>>> it runs "only" about 26 processes at a time, the CPU load >>>>> "idles" at about 50%. Wassup??????!!!! >>>>> >>>>> My laptop at work, a Compaq Evo N1000v, Pentium 4 XP, on which >>>>> I have done no tweaking or cleaning, idles at 8-10% CPU load. >>>>> This is with 41 processes running, including a lot of junk. >>>>> >>>>> I have tried two different programs, Spped Up My PC and Tweak >>>>> XP, with no appreciable effect on the CPU load. >>>>> >>>>> Is it my McAfee Virus shield thing? It doesn't show any >>>>> activity, but is enabled. if I need to disable it, how can I >>>>> continue to scan incoming e-mail? >>>>> >>>>> Any light shed on this would be most welcome!!!! >>>>> >>>>> Chris >>>> >>>>-- >>>>Chris Ludwig >>>>ADK >>>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com> >>>>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/> >>>>(859) 635-5762 >>> >> > >Yes! Tony On 1/9/06 11:24 PM, in article 43c34572@linux, "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote: > He just left. I put the mix up that I did this afternoon. It differs quite a > bit from the one we did last night. I carved out the sloppy clams and > retuned the notes that were butting heads that I thought would work for what > we were trying to achieve. I also did some comping of this and that and > dropped it on the4 timeline where needed. I took him on a tour of both mixes > and showed him exactly what I did and why. > > He loved it. We just finished remixing the song with a few more decisions he > made based on my basic groundwork. I think they were good decisions. His > last words before leaving tonight were" OK man, you just go ahead and get it > done and call me when you feel like we're close. I trust your judgment." > > Life is good. > > :o) > > > "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:43c31d75$<a href="mailto:1@linux..."
ref="http://www.pctools.com/spyware-doctor/" target="_blank">http://www.pctools.com/spyware-doctor/ > >It works great and has removed crap from my kids' computer when no other >tool would work (even stuff I couldn't edit out with regedit by hand). It's >well worth the money and will likely resolve your issue. > >I've followed your thread and it sounds to me like you've got a hidden process >running. Some of these things are so insidious that they're nearly impossible >to kill. > >Spyware Doctor also provides near daily updates for free as it appears the >*&*%ers that write these "programs" never sleep. > >I hope this helps! > >Mark > >"Chris Lang" <yo@yo.yo> wrote: >> >>Hopefully, some of you experts can clear this up: >> >>I have PARIS on my home desktop, Windows XP Athlon AMD 1400. >>I have done all sorts of cleaning, tweaking, etc., and maxed >>out the RAM at 1GB. Despite all of this work, and the fact that >>it runs "only" about 26 processes at a time,