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Have you evr thought of that ? -UPDATE-
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description: >>>> "Kim Glanville" <kgdrumz@telusplanet.com> wrote: >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> Guys, I've been out of the loop for a couple of years, taking >>> >>>>>> care of my parents in their home. Just getting into my Paris 2 >>> >>>>>> set-up now. >>> >>>>>> A recording engineer friend, who knows a ton more than I, is >>> >>>>>> recommending that I switch to an Emu 1820M, claiming that it >>> >>>>>> will sound as good as Paris, and has a much more integrated >>> >>>>>> architecture than my V2.11. He is also a computer freak who >>> >>>>>> is aware that I'm not knowledgeable enough to sort out some of<br
creator: Dimitrios
date: 2005-08-29T13:41:13-00:00

Re: Have you evr thought of that ? -UPDATE-
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description: /> >>> >>>>>> the workarounds that might be necessary. >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> Would appreciate thoughts from any of you Paris Vets out >>> >>>>>> there. I love the SOUND, and really dig the C16, but already >>> >>>>>> encountering a few little snags that make me consider my buddys' >>> >>>>>> suggestion. This said, he WAS impressed by the sound of my >>> >>>>>> setup! >>> >>>>>> I question whether a rookie like myself should tackle Paris, >>> >>>>>> unsupported, >>> >>>>>> except perhaps by this wonderful family that you guys are, which > is >>> >>>>>> significant, >>> >>>>>> especially w. archives >>> >>>>>> available. I do have the B.T. DVD. >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> Prayer-thoughts for the Gulf Coast as Rita approaches. >>> >>>>>> Kim >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>&g
creator: Cujjo
date: 2005-08-29T13:44:51-00:00

Re: Have you evr thought of that ? -UPDATE-
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description: uninstall > them. They are buggy and definately caused problems with my system. > > And, if you have the mod pack, make sure you have installed the correct (pc) > version. > Good luck. > > Paul > > "Alexander" <dnamusic@otenet.gr> wrote: > >I tried that, nothing new, nothing better. I wonder if anyone sees any > >presets of the compressor/expander/gate etc. because i don't! > >Another question is about asio driver. Is it working with Nuendo 2.2.0.39? > > >It's not working for me as it comes up with the message "Too many EDS > >cards". > >I work on XP Pro. > > > >Thanx > > > > > >"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:43393dac@linux... > >> http://www.myparispro.com/MinimumSetup.exe > >> > >> > >> "Alexander" <dnamusic@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:4339250c@linux... > >>> Where's the minimum.exe for Paris 3.0? > >>> I did everything else. > >>> > >>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:433901a1@linux... > >>>> Alex, > >>>> Have you done the obvious ? > >>>> Uninstall everyting and reinstall ? > >>>> Also did you pay the needed attention for subsystem effect ? > >>>> You know the minimum.exe file ? > >>>> It must be on Emu folder. > >>>> It is different for 2.x and 3 paris versions, be careful with that. > >>>> On aux menu do you see the cables in and out ? > >>>> Regar5ds, > >>>&gt
creator: Dimitrios
date: 2005-08-29T14:56:44-00:00

Re: Have you evr thought of that ? -UPDATE-
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description: kin. this ram was recommended either #1 02 at every mac site i visited prior to buying the G4. ironically it turned out that no mac service center had an accurate test for ram because apple didn't have one. though months late in coming this info did finally prompt me to purchase another band which did work better. i should mention that i had in the mean time swapped out my ram with 2 other G4s with apple supplied ram that had not solved the problem. mine worked in theirs while theirs didn't in mine. this i suppose is why they kept replacing the other guts in mine. after that then another issue arose and that was FW800 incompatibility which apple says was the fault of everyone else. well, we all know the answer to that one. that issue was more or less resolved by th other manufacturers with the updates to their gear. for best performance i still have to use FW400 for the audio drive and the 800 for storage...cool huh. at present i'm on 10.3.9 which is now functioning the best since my purchase. since my rig was more of a G5 than a G4 all those little changes to take advantage of the 5s architecture performance and stability have improved. i can sill run more tracks (on SX), plugins, and vst instruments on my 3+ yr. old 2.6 P4 pc than i can on the mac but the gap is closing. "The statement that they (Apple) can't warranty it working with third party products is unreasonable, you have a reasonable expectation of it working when you bought it" true or not it's apples position that problems are yours and not theirs. after all, you own a mac which is like being a part of the second coming so it must be your fault. all of this comes too little too late for me. it's sad, it took me 10 months of 16 hour days and a couple buckets of money to build my studio. add another 6 years of 16 hour days building the business to where i was making pretty good money. then came the mac and after 2 plus more years of trying to keep my dream alive i threw in the towel. my wife and i plan on…
creator: Dimitrios
date: 2005-08-29T15:40:48-00:00

Re: Have you evr thought of that ? -UPDATE-
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description: Apple ands up fixing the >problem. iPod nano screen, etc. > >By the way Apple was number one for years in customer service and satisfaction. > I believe they were rated number one again last year for the first time >in years. I think reputation is important to them, so don't give up. Remember, >The squeaky wheel gets the grease! > >People have won many lawsuits against Apple, you just don't hear about it. > Usually the issue is resolved with some form of remedy. I don't think you >need to go as far as to file a suit with them, I think a letter will work. > > >James > > >rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote: >>james, >> >>i went through about 8 to 10 months of back and forth with apple on >>this. they did replace the cpu, mobo, boot drive twice during this >>period. the problem was is that they kept giving me the prototype >>version. while it would benchmark fine once it was put in the real >>world nothing worked. i could take my drives and install them on >>other macs and it performed fine. bring theirs into mine and the same >>no works results ensued. hell. a single 867 notebook could smoke my >>dual 1.25 running the same data through it. after several months of >>the back and forth calling i was able to bypass all the lower folk and >>talk to the tech folk direct. it was shortly after that i was told >>that once i put anything into the computer ie. ram, drives or programs >>of any kind that apple could not and would not warranty it working >>properly. in so far as informing apple of my situation, they knew >>that this was a recording studio and my sole livelihood. after that i >>exploded...(quietly) and hung up. >> >>as far as filing a suit goes i think the only successful suit brought >>against apple was a class action one a couple of years ago. >> >>thanks >> >> >> >>On 29 Sep 2005 04:54:41 +1000, "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> >>wrote: >> >>> >>>Hey Rick! Mac OSX 10.3.5 Panther is solid as a rock on all my systems. > My >>>op
creator: Dimitrios
date: 2005-08-29T15:58:59-00:00

Re: Have you evr thought of that ? -UPDATE-
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description: all of the issues, I would contact a law firm >>>in Silicon Valley to rite a letter and send it to Apple's legal department. >>> It shouldn't cost that much. In the letter, I would state all the problems, >>>list the case numbers. I would request a refund of the purchase price >or >>>an equivalent current model G5 PowerMac. I would further state that the >>>Mac was an essential part of your studio business, and as a result, you >suffered >>>substantial losses because of lack of performance. I would also tell them >>>that you are filing complaints with the Better Business Bureau, the state >>>attorney general of your state and the state of California. If it is not >>>resolved quickly that there will be a lawsuit filed, possibly a class action. >>> >>>Apple will take this seriously. The cost of the letter may cost you $150.00, >>>but the issues would get resolved. I have filed complaints with the BBB >>>and have had companies resolve issues quickly wtih out a lawsuit. >>> >>>James >>> >>>rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>tony, >>>> >>>>i'm genuinely glad for anybodies computer that works as it should. >>>>like i said apple only made my particular model for one month as a >>>>pretest for the G5 (they brought out the g5 2 days after i got the >>>>g4). the chipset in my rig is different from all the other g4s >>>>produced hence the osx only boot. with there were so many >>>>compatibility issues with it, that it took nearly 18 months before it >>>>would run for a couple of hours without crashing. instead of giving >>>>me a new computer apple wanted to recreate my entire studio to suss >>>>out the problem...well..my business died; i lost all my clients and >>>>(to me) a ton of money, about $67,000.00. >>>> >>>>i'll be the first to admit it's my fault for deciding to make a major >>>>shift in how my studio ran from a console/paris/pc one to a itb mac >>>>based. >>>> >>>>i haven't tried tiger as of yet though some friends have and seem to >>>>be more or less happy with…
creator: Cujjo
date: 2005-08-29T16:10:25-00:00

Re: Have you evr thought of that ? -UPDATE-
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description: n d i >>>>n g h a m p t o n.c o m> wrote: >>>> >>>>>Dang Rick! Sorry to hear about the problems you and others have had. >I >>>was >>>>>knocking wood the whole time I read your post, because honestly, I've >never >>> >>>>>had any problems like that. I am running an older G4 Dual 1GHz Quicksilver >>> >>>>>though and am still on OSX 10.2. I have an extra internal 40 gig drive, >>>and >>>>>two external Firewire drives (120 gig and 180 gig) and have never lost >>>a >>>>>file. And I drag and drop files from drive to drive all the time. No >gray >>> >>>>>screen thingies either. Man, I hope my system never starts with the problems >>> >>>>>you've described. I was thinking about upgrading to OSX Tiger, but I >think >>>I >>>>>may leave well enough alone. Like they say, if it ain't broke, don't >fix >>>it! >>>>> >>>>>I'm looking at a new Power Book as we speak though, and again knocking >>>wood >>>>>that it will behave as nicely as my G4 tower. >>>>> >>>>>Wishing you better luck, >>>>> >>>>>Tony >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>news:bhnkj1tjabjue0ofdmsk0v8sn5a0livcsj@4ax.com... >>>>>> with macs it's the gray screen of "gone fishing" with the ghostlike >>>>>> prompt box in several languages. granted my personal contact with >>>>>> other mac users is limited (6 including G5's and G4 laptops) all have >>>>>> had the same happenings with X, and, if you ask, some of them they >>>>>> will say they've never had a "crash" even after they just had to >>>>>> reboot due to the "program has unexpectedly quit" box appearance >>>>>> preventing an app. from even loading. >>>>>> >>>>>> all of us have copied files from one drive to another only to have >>>>>> them disappear 5 minutes, the next day or later along with all the >new >>>>>> edits; yes they were saved and had been reloaded. plugins that have >>>>>> worked for months stop working (oddly enough they will work for one >>>>>> song but not another or for one administrator and not the other). >…
creator: Cujjo
date: 2005-08-29T16:11:08-00:00

Re: Have you evr thought of that ? -UPDATE-
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description: /> >>>>>>>>>either. I suppose it does make the die hard PC people feel better >though >>>>>>>>>after a decade of "blue screen of deaths". ;>) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Lucky Tony >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>news:43387da4@linux... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>It's amazing how accurate it is about a Mac. the more I use Macs, >>>the >>>>>>>>>>more I >>>>>>>>>>can relate to this. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Here it is, BTW- >>>>>>>>>>http://members.cox.net/clyqz/macs.html >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>;o) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>news:43385510$1@linux... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Yeah, I laugh my ass off, at how ignorant the guy was about a Mac! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>James >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>i don't know if you've seen the video (the guy name is leonard >>>>>>>>>>>>kressel) and he ends it with "mac killed my inner child"), it's >>>>>>>>>>>>completely over the top yet sooooo true. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 08:30:59 -0600, "DJ" >>>>>>>>>>>><animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>No kiddin. He should have bought a Mac and a version of >>>>>>>>>>>>>DP.......wait......then he might have wanted to kill himself. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>;o) >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>news:diffj1pqf0pprl8s946f66s2jia7aasspp@4ax.com... >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>thompson got bored, i'm not...still things to learn. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>hopefully then, humanity is not the best example of intellilgent >>>>>>>>>>>>>>design...now the laws of physics (designed or not) that has >allowed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>all this to continue uninterrupted for billions of years, that's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>something. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>sorry but, the yankees can wait a few more years to "win it >a…
creator: Dimitrios
date: 2005-08-29T16:48:34-00:00

Re: Have you evr thought of that ? -UPDATE-
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description: t;>>>> >>>> >>congrats and thanks for a place to argue...err...share. ;o) On 29 Sep 2005 10:17:28 +1000, "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote: > > >Just noticed accidentally in a search... today marks the 1st anniversary >of the shutdown of Chuck's newserver. > >Good to see a year on that things are moving on as usual. Many of the old >crew are still around, and my server seems to be happy in it's role and doing >the job pretty nicely. All the hardware is handling the load. > >In the next couple of months I'll be moving the server to a new home. :o) > >Cheers, >Kim.dude, just help the sheep through the gate... On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 22:28:38 -0600, "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote: >Somehow I now think of all of us as beiing mates.....though I'm still a >little uncomfortable with the term.....I mean, when we show up here >together, are we mating? > >Good show and thanks for keeping this forum afloat. >;o) > >"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:433b4dcc$1@linux... >> >> >> Hehe, I didn't actually post this so you could all thank me. ;o) Though >your >> thanks are appreciated... >> >> Perhaps we should make this official Chuck Duffy Day? Where we remember >all >> Chuck has done for Paris. :o) >> >> Cheers, >> Kim. >> >> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > >> >Just noticed accidentally in a search... today marks the 1st anniversary >> >of the shutdown of Chuck's newserver. >> > >> >Good to see a year on that things are moving on as usual. Many of the old >> >crew are still around, and my server seems to be happy in it's role and >> doing >> >the job pretty nicely. All the hardware is handling the load. >> > >> >In the next couple of months I'll be moving the server to a new home. :o) >> > >> >Cheers, >> >Kim. >> >Congratulations Kim! It feels like Ten years from my perspective... El Miguel "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:433b3298$1@linux... > > > Just noticed accidentally in a search... today marks t…
creator: Dimitrios
date: 2005-08-29T17:10:38-00:00

Re: Have you evr thought of that ? -UPDATE-
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description: avelab Essential is around $99US... basically it is Wavelab >>>>>3 repackaged. Would do a fine job for what you need. >>>>> >>>>>David. >>>>> >>>>>cujo wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Ok, Looks like Sound Forge's CD architect has the CD sequence options >>>> >>>>I am >>>> >>>> >>>>>>looking for. I have read here there is a question regarding how it sounds. >>>>>>Can anyone using it tell me what they think? >>>>>>What 5 am looking for is some sort of bidget mastering prog for gig demos >>>>>>and pre mastering refernce CD's >>>>>>I have found it for about 200.00, wavelab runs about 500.00 >>>>>> >>>>>>Thanks >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>Oh so UAD precision limiter and say some EQ will not be super helpful? EK Sound <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote: >UAD and Wavelab don't like each other much... but they will work. You >just have to make sure not to adjust any plug perimeters while playing >audio, and close the plug window before playing. PITA, but it works. > I use WL4 here like that all the time. The main difference between >WL4/5 and Essential is that there are only two lanes in the montage >window in Essential. I generally render the montage to a solid wave >first then add plugs and markers. > >David. > >Cujo wrote: > >> he EK, >> This is exactly what I want to do. >> Not out of sequence, just more optiions than say a Roxio with 2 second or >> 3 or whatever they allow so I have an accurate sequencing to give to a mastering >> guy to follow..also so we can test drive the sequence for a week or so. >> >> That is great of WL Essentials will do it. The Steinberg guy said no, but >> he may have misunderstood me. He siad I needed the full version for that! >> >> So UAD plugs are also ok in WL E? >> >> >> >> >> >> EK Sound <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote: >> >>>Not sure I understand what you want to do... In Wavelab you can use >>>the montage window to crossfade from one file to another. The CD >>>markers can be laid where ever you need them, including in the middle >>>of audio. If y…
creator: Rod Lincoln
date: 2005-08-29T17:59:56-00:00

Re: Have you evr thought of that ? -UPDATE-
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description: gt;> >>> >>>>Not sure I understand what you want to do... In Wavelab you can use >>>>the montage window to crossfade from one file to another. The CD >>>>markers can be laid where ever you need them, including in the middle > > >>>>of audio. If you are looking to lay markers out of sequence then no, > > >>>>it can't do that. Once you get a handle on it, the montage window is > > >>>>really very fast for this sort of thing. >>>> >>>>David. >>>> >>>>Cujo wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>yeah, I looked into that too. >>>>>The guy at Steinberg said it does not allow you to move the track ID > > makers > >>>>>around in a CD sequence.THhatt only the full blown does this. >>>>>Is he wrong? >>>>> >>>>>I really want to be able to mock up the sequence including thigns likc >>> >>>tracks >>> >>> >>>>>crossfading inot each other, so I can send it to the mastering guy for >>> >>>a >>> >>> >>>>>guide as how the band wants it. >>>>> >>>>>I;d rather get the Wavelab if it will do it. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_nospam_@shaw.ca> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Wavelab Essential is around $99US... basically it is Wavelab >>>>>>3 repackaged. Would do a fine job for what you need. >>>>>> >>>>>>David. >>>>>> >>>>>>cujo wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Ok, Looks like Sound Forge's CD architect has the CD sequence options >>>>> >>>>>I am >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>looking for. I have read here there is a question regarding how it > > sounds. > >>>>>>>Can anyone using it tell me what they think? >>>>>>>What 5 am looking for is some sort of bidget mastering prog for gig > > demos > >>>>>>>and pre mastering refernce CD's >>>>>>>I have found it for about 200.00, wavelab runs about 500.00 >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Thanks >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >Yes, a big thanks from me too! "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote: >Thanks Kim.. good show dude. >AA > > >"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:433b3298$1@linux... >> >> >> Just noticed accidentally in a search... today marks the 1st anniv…
creator: Dimitrios
date: 2005-08-29T18:41:10-00:00

Re: Have you evr thought of that ? -UPDATE-
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description: , sans his inner child ;o) > > > > > >On 29 Sep 2005 13:45:36 +1000, "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> >wrote: > >> >> Rick, it actually could be the RAM. Some systems act funny with different >>brands of RAM. I assume it shows up in the hardware profile? Have you tried >>other brands? How does it run with out the added memory? Have you tried >>different drives internally? What version of OSX are you running? >> >>The statement that they (Apple) can't warranty it working with third party >>products is unreasonable, you have a reasonable expectation of it working >>when you bought it. Apple can not guaranty that their product will or won't >>work with third party products, that is a given. I would ignore that statement, >>and do as I suggested, take it in, if that doesn't work hire an attorney >>to write a letter. Start with the BBB, it's free. Also bad press is not >>good, people have set up negative web sites and Apple ands up fixing the >>problem. iPod nano screen, etc. >> >>By the way Apple was number one for years in customer service and satisfaction. >> I believe they were rated number one again last year for the first time >>in years. I think reputation is important to them, so don't give up. Remember, >>The squeaky wheel gets the grease! >> >>People have won many lawsuits against Apple, you just don't hear about it. >> Usually the issue is resolved with some form of remedy. I don't think you >>need to go as far as to file a suit with them, I think a letter will work. >> >> >>James >> >> >>rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>james, >>> >>>i went through about 8 to 10 months of back and forth with apple on >>>this. they did replace the cpu, mobo, boot drive twice during this >>>period. the problem was is that they kept giving me the prototype >>>version. while it would benchmark fine once it was put in the real >>>world nothing worked. i could take my drives and install them on >>>other macs and it performed fine. bring theirs into mine and the same >>…
creator: Cujjo
date: 2005-08-29T21:13:56-00:00

Re: Have you evr thought of that ? -UPDATE-
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description: m >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Tony Benson wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Maybe that should be "blue screens of death". Yep, definitely lucky. >>>>:>0 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Tony >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Tony Benson" <t o n y@s t a n d i n g h a m p t o n.c o m> wrote >>in >>>> >>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>> news:43398f04@linux... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>I must be either extremely lucky or extremely smart, because I've >>been >>>>>>>>>>using Macs since 1987 and besides the dock in OS X being a little >> >>>>>>>>>>touchy, I >>>>>>>>>>haven't experienced any of those problems. I just asked my wife and >>>>she >>>>>>>>>>confirmed that I'm definitely extremely lucky. Hey, wait a minute. >>>> . >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>;>) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Actually, I saw this video several years ago. Didn't quite get it >>then >>>>>>>>>>either. I suppose it does make the die hard PC people feel better >>though >>>>>>>>>>after a decade of "blue screen of deaths". ;>) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Lucky Tony >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>news:43387da4@linux... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>It's amazing how accurate it is about a Mac. the more I use Macs, >>>>the >>>>>>>>>>>more I >>>>>>>>>>>can relate to this. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Here it is, BTW- >>>>>>>>>>>http://members.cox.net/clyqz/macs.html >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>;o) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
creator: Aaron Allen
date: 2005-08-29T22:56:37-00:00

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creator: Dimitrios
date: 2005-08-30T06:45:39-00:00

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creator: Aaron Allen
date: 2005-08-30T23:41:32-00:00