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Drumagog 4.02 is very good with Paris
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description: rtin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote: > >Hi Neil > >I was, (and will be untill I get my M-Audio Delta 1010 back), using the > Emu > >card with Nuendo. > >I was / is the primary card in the computer. > > So if I got one of these cards, primarily for the EFX, just to > have some more variety & lighten the CPU load when I'm running > more EFX, would I also be able to use it at the same time in the > same PC as my Multiface/card combo? For example, if I had my > multiface full up reacording with all 8 inputs, could I use the > inputs on the Emu card at the same time if I needed a couple > more in's? I've never run two cards before, so I don't know if > this would work. > > For that matter, if I was using the Multiface as my main > interface/card, regardless of whether or not I wanted to use > the Emu card for more inputs as mentioned above, could I still > access the EFX on the Emu card & use them as plugins? > > > NeilThanks, Deej. "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message news:43335aec$1@linux... > Here's Brian T's latency measurements- > Paris latencies: > > Round trip via insert (EDS "External") through SPDIF I/O = 1 Sample > > Round trip via insert (EDS "External") through MEC 24 bit > analog Out to analog In = 60 Samples = 1.36ms/44.1KHz or 1.25ms/48K > > Total record and monitor path (Channel In/Stereo Master Out) MEC 24 bit > analog In to analog Out = 66 Samples = 1.5ms/44.1Khz or 1.375ms/48KHz > > EDS compressor with no lookahead = 2 Samples > > EDS EQ = 0 Samples > > > I'd say that you're looking at one sample. No big deal. > > I'm clocking a Quantec Yardstick, Power Technology DSP/FX card, Lexi Core > 32, Sony V77 and POD Pro and interfacing them with Paris through digital > patchbays. There is no audible latency......at all. > > Deej > > "uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message > news:43334e10$1@linux... > > So: when running tracks out of Paris to external effects and compression > via > > analog ins and outs, we …
creator: Tom Bruhl
date: 2005-08-17T15:26:19-00:00

Re: Drumagog 4.02 is very good with Paris
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description: ; >> So you copy these on empty tracks. > >> then you put the senderella on each of the first set of drumtracks and > >> redirect inside senderella so that the sending audiotrack does not output > >> any audio. > >> you nudge these tracks by 4096 samples forward using any method known > if > >you > >> use Soinaudio wrapper for UAD1,
creator: Gary Flanigan
date: 2005-08-17T15:56:15-00:00

Re: Drumagog 4.02 is very good with Paris
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description: itrios > >> > >"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message > >news:43326fe6@linux... > >> > >> Hi to everyone... > >> > >> I was trying the Senderella thing under Me. > >> > >> The only way that works great is using the EDSTransfer=8,16 thing. > >> > >> Note that it also works with 8,8 but this setting is not stable , > you > >> > get > >> > >> disk errors "too slow" things etc. > >> > >> Things work very stable with that EDSTransfer setting and senderella > >> > >newest > >> > >> version can now save its sttings along with saving Paris song. > >> > >> So now you can have your bus system inside Paris you always wanted. > >> > >> There no latency at all (0) when using senderella so you can use > your > >> > >> favoured DX plugin or EDS effect to effect your submix buss. > >> > >> You can also have a stereo bus summing -effecting thing using two > >> > >senderella > >> > >> instances. > >> > >> I use of course chainer to load senderella but I am surte it can > be > >> used > >> > >> without chainer. > >> > >> Someone has mentioned several times on this forum that the > >EDStransfer > >> > >might > >> > >> get EDS cards working hotter thus producing more heat. > >> > >> I would like to know from you who used to use the EDSTransfer 8,8 > >thing > >> > in > >> > >> the past if you had ny eds cards burnted out. > >> > >> I have two big fans blowing over the eds cards anyway. > >> > >> I am also considering just to be on the safe side to add these copper > >> > >little > >> > >> addons that can be put right over the chips so whenever air is > >blowing > >> > on > >> > >> them they got somehow cooler. > >> > >> Anyone ever tried this or other things ? > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> Dimitrios > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > >I got that plug, but I've never used it...I'll have to try that. Thanks for the tip. Rod Gantt Kushner <gizmo@his.com> wrote: >I have a buddy who brought one in when he did some drum tracks, and I loved it. >Haven't bou…
creator: Tom Bruhl
date: 2005-08-17T16:20:31-00:00

Re: Drumagog 4.02 is very good with Paris
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description: "mailto:chris@applemanstudio.com" target="_blank">chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote in message >>news:4332b448$1@linux... >>> > >>> > >>> > D, can you explain a few things? >>> > How do you compensate for lateny on say a stereo UAD la2a on track 15 >>and >>> > 16 set up to recieve drums and bass guitar for smashing and blendin >with >>> > the orignal tracks that also may be using UAD plugs or not? >>> > >>> > Also I'd like to use the UAD plate and send more than one thing to it. >>How >>> > do I compensate here? >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote: >>> > >Note that under Me the senderella thing has some problems with timing<br /
creator: Tony Benson
date: 2005-08-17T16:25:20-00:00

Re: Drumagog 4.02 is very good with Paris
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description: > >! >>> > >Under XP though it is very solid the timing thing. >>> > >So senderella is only usable (in my system ) only under XP with 0 >>latency >>> > >and perfect timing in summing audio tracks, you need though to put >8,16 >>> > or >>> > >8,8 in Paris cfg for EDSTransfer. >>> > >I use 8,16 >>> > >Regards, >>> > >Dimitrios >>> > >"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message >>news:43326fe6@linux... >>> > >> Hi to everyone... >>> > >> I was trying the Senderella thing under Me. >>> > >> The only way that works great is using the EDSTransfer=8,16 thing. >>> > >> Note that it also works with 8,8 but this setting is not stable , >you >>> > get >>> > >> disk errors "too slow" things etc. >>> > >> Things work very stable with that EDSTransfer setting and senderella >>> > >newest >>> > >> version can now save its sttings along with saving Paris song. >>> > >> So now you can have your bus system inside Paris you always wanted. >>> > >> There no latency at all (0) when using senderella so you can use >your >>> > >> favoured DX plugin or EDS effect to effect your submix buss. >>> > >> You can also have a stereo bus summing -effecting thing using two >>> > >senderella >>> > >> instances. >>> > >>
creator: Tony Benson
date: 2005-08-17T16:30:19-00:00

Re: Drumagog 4.02 is very good with Paris
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description: I use of course chainer to load senderella but I am surte it can >be >>> used >>> > >> without chainer. >>> > >> Someone has mentioned several times on this forum that the >>EDStransfer >>> > >might >>> > >> get EDS cards working hotter thus producing more heat. >>> > >> I would like to know from you who used to use the EDSTransfer 8,8 >>thing >>> > in >>> > >> the past if you had ny eds cards burnted out. >>> > >> I have two big fans blowing over the eds cards anyway. >>> > >> I am also considering just to be on the safe side to add these copper >>> > >little >>> > >> addons that can be put right over the chips so whenever air is >>blowing >>> > on >>> > >> them they got somehow cooler. >>> > >> Anyone ever tried this or other things ? >>> > >> Regards, >>> > >> Dimitrios >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > > >>> > > >>> > >>> >>> >> >> >This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0056_01C5C06B.1F9E7840 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gantt & Rod, I second that emotion. KickBack is a good thing. Tom "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message = news:43347a35$1@linux... I got that plug, but I've never used it...I'll have to try that. = Thanks for the tip. Rod Gantt Kushner <gizmo@his.com> wrote: >I have a buddy who brought one in when he did some drum tracks, and I = loved it. >Haven't bought one yet. The EDS plugin that Chuck created (can't = recall the >name) >can create a similar effect w/ a 50 Hz tone mixed in w/ the kick... = Also can be >tuned >to the key of the song! > >Gantt > >Rod Lincoln wrote: > >> I just got a Yamaha sub kik and it sounds GOOD! >> I already had a speaker wired to be used th same way, and I thought = it sounded >> OK...kind of frumpy, but in the mix, it gave the kik some extra = oomph. The >> Yamaha sounds much better to my ears. Nice ebay snag if I do say = so! >> Rod > ------=_NextPart_000_0056_01C5C06B.1F9E7840 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859…
creator: Tom Bruhl
date: 2005-08-17T16:35:55-00:00

Re: Drumagog 4.02 is very good with Paris
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description: an't recall the &gt;name) &gt;can create a similar = effect=20 w/ a 50 Hz tone mixed in w/ the kick... Also can = be &gt;tuned &gt;to=20 the key of the song! &gt; &gt;Gantt &gt; &gt;Rod Lincoln=20 wrote: &gt; &gt;&gt; I just got a Yamaha sub kik and it sounds=20 GOOD! &gt;&gt; I already had a speaker wired to be used th same = way, and I=20 thought it sounded &gt;&gt; OK...kind of frumpy, but in the mix, = it gave=20 the kik some extra oomph. The &gt;&gt; Yamaha sounds much better = to my=20 ears. Nice ebay snag if I do say so! &gt;&gt;=20 Rod &gt; ------=_NextPart_000_0056_01C5C06B.1F9E7840--Here are my big questions. Are you sure you want to buy another product from EMU?????? A company that has a history of canceling products with out notice, with out an upgrade path, and just drop support cold????? Lie to their customers!!!!!!!!!! Lie to there dealers!!!!!!!!!!! All to make a buck!!!!!!!!!! Are you sure you want to invest in to another piece of PCI hardware, when there are other choices out there? This system is limited in its expandability! Are you sure it sounds that good? Are you sure you want to reward a company that has screwed us all over, by making them richer, by buying another product from them??????????????????? These guy should have been sued!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fuck EMU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You already own PARIS! Stick with PARIS! "Kim Glanville" <kgdrumz@telusplanet.com> wrote: > >Guys, I've been out of the loop for a couple of years, taking >care of my parents in their home. Just getting into my Paris 2 >set-up now. >A recording engineer friend, who knows a ton more than I, is >recommending that I switch to an Emu 1820M, claiming that it >will sound as good as Paris, and has a much more integrated >architecture than my V2.11. He is also a computer freak who >is aware that I'm not knowledgeable enough to sort out some of >the workarounds that might be necessary. > >Would appreciate thoughts from any of you Paris Vets out >there. I…
creator: John Macy
date: 2005-08-17T16:52:24-00:00

Re: Drumagog 4.02 is very good with Paris
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description: ant, >especially w. archives >available. I do have the B.T. DVD. > >Prayer-thoughts for the Gulf Coast as Rita approaches. >Kim > > >"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote: >Anyone knows which chips on EDS cards are getting hot ? >In other words which most commonly do melt in a fault card ? >Regards, >Dimitrios > > It's the one on the right; )Cant tell you the answer to that one Neil. Most programs will not let you access more than one card, unless from the same manufacturer, and then, only some cards that are identical. I guess there is no reason why the effects can't be used though. -- Martin Harrington www.lendanear-sound.com "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:4333ff12$1@linux... > > "Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote: >>Hi Neil >>I was, (and will be untill I get my M-Audio Delta 1010 back), using the > Emu >>card with Nuendo. >>I was / is the primary card in the computer. > > So if I got one of these cards, primarily for the EFX, just to > have some more variety & lighten the CPU load when I'm running > more EFX, would I also be able to use it at the same time in the > same PC as my Multiface/card combo? For example, if I had my > multiface full up reacording with all 8 inputs, could I use the > inputs on the Emu card at the same time if I needed a couple > more in's? I've never run two cards before, so I don't know if > this would work. > > For that matter, if I was using the Multiface as my main > interface/card, regardless of whether or not I wanted to use > the Emu card for more inputs as mentioned above, could I still > access the EFX on the Emu card & use them as plugins? > > > NeilIt's my full agree, FUCK EMU kepp with Paris "nobody" <no@no.com> wrote: > >Here are my big questions. Are you sure you want to buy another product >from EMU?????? A company that has a history of canceling products with out >notice, with out an upgrade path, and just drop support cold????? Lie to >their customers!!!!!!!!!! Lie to there dealers!!!!!!!!!!…
creator: Deej [1]
date: 2005-08-17T16:54:46-00:00

Re: Drumagog 4.02 is very good with Paris
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description: than with 24bit file Regards, Dimitrios "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:43326fe6@linux... > Hi to everyone... > I was trying the Senderella thing under Me. > The only way that works great is using the EDSTransfer=8,16 thing. > Note that it also works with 8,8 but this setting is not stable , you get > disk errors "too slow" things etc. > Things work very stable with that EDSTransfer setting and senderella newest > version can now save its sttings along with saving Paris song. > So now you can have your bus system inside Paris you always wanted. > There no latency at all (0) when using senderella so you can use your > favoured DX plugin or EDS effect to effect your submix buss. > You can also have a stereo bus summing -effecting thing using two senderella > instances. > I use of course chainer to load senderella but I am surte it can be used > without chainer. > Someone has mentioned several times on this forum that the EDStransfer might > get EDS cards working hotter thus producing more heat. > I would like to know from you who used to use the EDSTransfer 8,8 thing in > the past if you had ny eds cards burnted out. > I have two big fans blowing over the eds cards anyway. > I am also considering just to be on the safe side to add these copper little > addons that can be put right over the chips so whenever air is blowing on > them they got somehow cooler. > Anyone ever tried this or other things ? > Regards, > Dimitrios > >to the right of the one on the left or to the right the center one??? On 24 Sep 2005 08:55:39 +1000, "nobody" <no@no.com> wrote: > >"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote: >>Anyone knows which chips on EDS cards are getting hot ? >>In other words which most commonly do melt in a fault card ? >>Regards, >>Dimitrios >> >> > > >It's the one on the right; )No good. I also tried that suggestion to put compressor at master inserts and the at channel inserts but it didn't work. Anyone else of any ideas please? Alex "Dimitrios" <musu…
creator: Tom Bruhl
date: 2005-08-17T17:09:55-00:00

Re: Drumagog 4.02 is very good with Paris
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description: ;suggestion. This said, he WAS impressed by the sound of my >>setup! >>I question whether a rookie like myself should tackle Paris, unsupported, >>except perhaps by this wonderful family that you guys are, which is significant, >>especially w. archives >>available. I do have the B.T. DVD. >> >>Prayer-thoughts for the Gulf Coast as Rita approaches. >>Kim >> >> >> >What is the world coming to when an EDS card is worth less than a soundblaster......... yikes. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=29-102-191&am p;CMP=EMC-neemail092305&ATT=XFi70SB055000002 AAThe 1820 is a good sounding card esp. for the money. The drivers may not be quite in league with RME and Lynx, but I installed a couple in A/V media systems and never had a problem for that use. They would do quite well with a $500+ 8-channel ADDA unit using those converters. If you are looking for a DAW alternative to Paris, there are quite a few great options. I wouldn't trash Emu just because Paris couldn't survive. Emu didn't really have the money or resources to run with Paris anyway - I am guessing Creative just said "okay, give it a try, but if it doesn't make money instead of costing money, it's done." I have an Emu Audity 2000 - great rack synth. I have no intention of selling it. Emu may not be running wild with cutting edge soft-synth and hardware synth technology, but they do what they do, and it is a niche for them. Regards, Dedric On 9/24/05 3:46 PM, in article 4335c918$1@linux, "Kim Gl
creator: Tony Benson
date: 2005-08-17T17:26:51-00:00

Re: Drumagog 4.02 is very good with Paris
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description: anville" <kgdrumz@telusplanet.com> wrote: > > I hear you! And you're giving food for thought. From my little > perspective, though, I also wax a bit philosophic about it: > Paris lost the war w. Pro-tools, kinda like Sony's Betamax VCR lost the war > to VHS. The 'better' formats lost--and investment stopped...but you're right, > those who spent the $$$ should not > have been abandoned by Emu. Maybe Creative just wanted Paris > so they could steal some of the great A/D converter stuff for > Audigy! > > I'm also considering the portable convenience of a Tascam 2488, > tho' pretty sure it won't sound as good Paris. > Thanks, > Kim > > > "nobody" <no@no.com> wrote: >> >> Here are my big questions. Are you sure you want to buy another product >> from EMU?????? A company that has a history of canceling products with > out >> notice, with out an upgrade path, and just drop support cold????? Lie to >> their customers!!!!!!!!!! Lie to there dealers!!!!!!!!!!! All to make > a >> buck!!!!!!!!!! Are you sure you want to invest in to another piece of PCI >> hardware, when there are other choices out there? This system is limited >> in its expandability! Are you sure it sounds that good? >> >> Are you sure you want to reward a company that has screwed us all over, > by >> making them richer, by buying another product from them??????????????????? >> >> >> >> These guy should have been sued!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >> >> Fuck EMU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >> >> >> You already own PARIS! >> >> Stick with PARIS! >> >> >> "Kim Glanville" <kgdrumz@telusplanet.com> wrote: >>> >>> Guys, I've been out of the loop for a couple of years, taking >>> care of my parents in their home. Just getting into my Paris 2 >>> set-up now. >>> A recording engineer friend, who knows a ton more than I, is >>> recommending that I switch to an Emu 1820M, claiming that it >>> will sound as good as Paris, and has a much more integrated >>> architecture than my V2.11. He is also a computer freak who >…
creator: Tom Bruhl
date: 2005-08-17T19:29:06-00:00

Re: Drumagog 4.02 is very good with Paris
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description: mailto:43362548@linux" target="_blank">43362548@linux... Years=20 weigh upon us.... Jimmy "Aaron Allen" &lt;<A=20 href=3D"mailto:nospam@not_here.dude">nospam@not_here.dude&gt; = wrote in=20 message <A=20 href=3D"news:43360d5a$1@linux">news:43360d5a$1@linux... &gt; = What is the=20 world coming to when an EDS card is worth less than a &gt;=20 soundblaster......... yikes. &gt; &gt; <A=20 = href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=3D29-102-191& amp;amp;C= MP=3DEMC-neemail092">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=3D29-= 102-191&amp;CMP=3DEMC-neemail092 305&amp;ATT=3DXFi70SB055000002 <BR= >&gt; &gt; &gt;=20 AA &gt; &gt; ------=_NextPart_000_0126_01C5C179.40994FC0--Good, this is nice to know. Didi you know that there is no latency for their compressor, eq and audiotrack ? regards, Dimitrios "erlilo" <erlilo@online.no> wrote in message news:43364089$1@linux... > I'm using nearly all their stuff in the "Golden" series. Havn't touched a > UAD1 plugin for over a year in Paris since I tried these wonderful danish > plugins. > > Erling > > "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> skrev i melding news:43350e2a@linux... > > Here is a very very nice compressor, you have to try this demo compressor > > and it is 0 latency !! > > http://www.kjaerhusaudio.com/gco-1.php > > > > > >In the Golden series, it's only the Peak-Pressor that have a small latency. All the others have no latency at all. They're all well worth to test. They're built in a form of the same way as the UAD-1 plugs, digital analyzes of old analog gears in the top class. <a href="htt
creator: Tony Benson
date: 2005-08-17T20:11:48-00:00

Re: Drumagog 4.02 is very good with Paris
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description: e: >>> >>>>I know this has been ask TONSSSS of time and I have been looking THRU the >>>>group but stil havnt had any luck I'm using the BLACK paris with ver 2.2 >>>>I finally have to switch over to WIN XP PRO and cant get my Paris to load. >>>>I've installed the BETA driver it seems to go all well and needs to reboot >>>>but when it does . i get ERROR 1/FFFFFFFFF this paris is the only thing >>> >>>that >>> >>>>hasnt flooded in my house here in new orleans and i'm tring to get all the >>>>songs that i have recorded THANKS FOR ANY INFO!!!!!!!!! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>-JAY >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >http://doncicchetti.blogspot.com/ Take a look if you have a minute. suggestions welcome DCJay, Officially the XP drivers and effects subsystem are only supported on version 3.0. That said they do work on 2.2 also. I have used them myself for a good year or more on XP. HOWEVER, one trick in loading the effects subsystem on version 2.2. The effects subsystem (minimum setup.exe) tends to automatically default to the path for Paris 3 (which is like \Program Files\EMU\Paris Pro\). You need to change this to the correct path for your system. Not only that, but there's a quirk from memory where after you set the path it will then modify it by adding \Paris Pro to the end of whatever path you enter or something like that. You need to watch very very carefully when setting the path for minimum setup. That's the first idea that comes to mind. Hope this helps. Cheers, Kim. "jay" <strandid@bellsouth.net> wrote: > >Yep I've been reading the site up and down but nuthin about what I should >do I saw somewhere a guy suggested changing something in the BIOS????? anyone >heard of that? > > > >-JAY > > > > > >Morgan <morganp@ntplx.net> wrote: >>Hi Jay, >> >>Its all right here :) >> >>http://www.myparispro.com/XP.asp >> >>Morgan >> >> >> >>erlilo wrote: >>> Version 2.2 is only for Win98-ME if I remember correct. 3.0 can work with >XP >>> if you're using the XPdrivers that someone here have built.…
creator: Tom Bruhl
date: 2005-08-18T02:50:42-00:00

Re: Drumagog 4.02 is very good with Paris
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creator: Dimitrios
date: 2005-09-03T08:15:58-00:00