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description: ref="mailto:1@linux..." target="_blank">1@linux... > >> > >> > >> Things are just getting a little too tense around here. I don't want to > >
creator: cujo
date: 2005-07-26T14:04:43-00:00

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description: started up with someone's > name in a thread. > > We've both pissed in the pool and stirred up a mess here. I think this is > more about that in the bigger picture. > > You and I have buried the hatchet now. I don't want to see this get > started > again or have it get any uglier. > > For the sake of this group, let's all call a truce, > ........................please.<br
creator: EK Sound
date: 2005-07-26T14:49:14-00:00

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description: /> > > Deej > > > "justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.commune> wrote in message > news:431c974e@linux... >> >> "michael bliss" <mbliss1@austin.rr.com> wrote in message >> news:431c9675$1@linux... >> >> > Been here since 1998, believe me, if i wanted to get to know >> > you..... you would know me. >> >> wow, 7 years in the same newsgroup and I still have no idea who you are. >> >> Impressive! >> >> But you know me of course. >> >> > >This says it all and it was written by Bob Herbet-but then again to many of you he is the enemy from the dreaded Ny Times JM And it is this incompetence and indifference to suffering (yes, the carnage continues to mount in Iraq) that makes it so hard to be optimistic about the prospects for the United States over the next few years. At a time when effective, innovative leadership is desperately needed to cope with matters of war and peace, terrorism and domestic security, the economic imperatives of globalization and the rising competition for oil, the United States is being led by a man who seems oblivious to the reality of his awesome responsibilities. Like a boy being prepped for a second crack at a failed exam, Mr. Bush has been meeting with his handlers to see what steps can be taken to minimize the political fallout from this latest demonstration of his ineptitude. But this is not about politics. It's about competence. And when the president is so obviously clueless about matters so obviously important, it means that the rest of us, like the people left stranded in New Orleans, are in deep, deep trouble.My buddy Swen just fromatted hos audio drives (Win XP) NTFS. Is this okay? We always used FAT32 till now, but he had trouble doing that this time, so... Also, what's the best name in drives these days? JimmyThere should be no problem,
creator: gene lennon
date: 2005-07-26T15:09:04-00:00

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description: gt; Also, what's the best name in drives these days? > > > > Jimmy > > > > > >I've posted before about using Cubase SX and Paris in a doubleDAW mix scenario. One of the *issues* with this is that files are being processed at 32 bit in SX and then lightpiped over the 20 bit feed to Paris. I have done some critical listening on this and I discovered that cumulative quantization errors when streaming many tracks while truncating from 32 bit float through a 20 bit digital feed was creating some harshness in the 1-2kHz frequency range. To solve this, I found a very flexible dither algo and have instantiated it on every channel of my Cubase mix template. Now each track is being dithered as it is passed from SX to Paris. I'm mixing a small project that I tracked yesterday. What I'm hearing at the end of the songs as they fade sounds just like tape hiss. I used mostly class A, solid state preamps on this project and even my tube gear is dead quiet........so I'm almost positive this is cumulative dither noise. Fading the tracks takes care of it and the final stage of the process is yet another dither. Rather than thinking it unpleasant, I'm actually liking the sound of this, though it certainly isn't digital purity by any stretch. I ned to paly around with this some more though. This is a small project........15 tracks tops. I don't know how this would sound in a project with 40 + tracks. Might be a problem. Hmmmm.......Hmmmm...........don't know the answer to that one. "uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:431ca2fe$1@linux... > What about transferring files from my FAT32 drive to his NTFS drive to work > on and then back to my FAT32 drives later? > > Jimmy > > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message > news:431ca21a@linux... > > There should be no problem, but if he is networked to another system that > is > > running a ystem drive that is FAT32, the Fat 32 drive will not be able to > > read the NTFS drive. Since all my HD's on my…
creator: DC
date: 2005-07-26T15:35:33-00:00

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description: ts overseas and there had been no effective strategy to deal with it because............ 3. We had no effective intelligence service to protect us from this. 4. We had no national energy policy and domestic production had been cut way back so that we were at the total mercy of OPEC. 5. There had been no real effort on the part of the previous administration to apply *real* pressure to Sadaam or the UN to force him to abide by the sanctions that were but in place in 1991 so we were still technically at war with Iraq. 6. 911 Seems he inherited a pretty full plate. I'm no Bush lover, contrary to what some might think here. I worked with Ann Richards campaign in the 1980's along with many others and eventually thwarted his bid for governor of Texas.
creator: rick
date: 2005-07-26T18:24:36-00:00

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description: arget="_blank">mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote: > >I'm still not sure "Zionist owning America" is identity politics,but I do >understand your explaination. > >respect >Nappy > >"DC" <dc@gospamsomeonelse.org> wrote: >> >>"Nappy" <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote: >> >>>What the hell does this mean? >> >>It means that identity politics will ruin your life, my life, Jason's life >>and our country. It means that none of us are safe from it no >>matter our color. The very thing we think will protect us, >>membership in an offended and victimized group, will turn on us >>like a nasty pt bull at the worst possible moment. >> >>It can happen to you too. >> >> >>respect, >> >>DC >> >Hey My Blue eyed Soul brother! Thanks for thoughts and prayers. SD is as sunny as ever. Did your band go to Austin with you? I'd love to hear what you ve been doing lately. You know I'm a fan of your singing. all the best. respect Nappy "michael bliss" <mbliss1@austin.rr.com> wrote: > >Hey Nap, >sorry to hear about the set back. I thought you already recieved your transplant. >Man you got to get well, this has been too long. >My thoughts and prayers are with you. > >How's SD? man do i miss the ocean- > >michael bliss > >"Nappy" <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote: >> >>No transpl
creator: gene lennon
date: 2005-07-26T19:00:32-00:00

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description: brought her home in 1993, and I lived with Molly and Mum > until 1998 when I bought a Paris system and moved out so I would have > enough > space to make proper use of it. ;o) It took her about a day to work out > how > to play fetch, and she became known as an obsessive fan of the game. ;o) > Indeed, over time, she gained the attention of many a passer by by picking > up logs up to maybe 12 feet long, and sometimes 6 inches or more > diameter... > she could literally pick up a wooden railway sleeper and carry it along > like it was nothing, despite her reasonably slender build for the breed. > > She was always incredibly obedient, understanding, for example, that she > wasn't allowed on the carpet of this house, but was in that house. You > could > walk her without a lead and she would wait by the kerb until you said she > could cross the road. She would sit, drop, and roll over on command, and > wouldn't eat until she was told she could. You could take her to the shops > and tell her to stay and know she'd be waiting out the front when you got > back. Yes, I know that sounds a little irresponsible, but she was just > that > well behaved that you knew she'd be fine. > > Molly has the spirit of a pup until the very end. She was always bouncy > and > alive and wanting to play fetch. ;o) In the end her back end went, and she > couldn't stand and had no bladder control, but on the last day my brother > and I went to visit, when she saw me, she growled. I knew something was > wrong > because she'd never growled at me. Then I realised she wasn't growling at > me, but at the fact that she couldn't move. She couldn't move and she > desperately > wanted to get up and play. She was on quarterzone though, and her > adrenaline > kicked in, and a few seconds later she stood up. She stood up, had a pat, > and searched the back yard and came back with a ball, put it down in front > of me, looked up at me panting, and glanced between me and the ball. ;o) > > That was pretty much t…
creator: Deej [1]
date: 2005-07-27T01:24:38-00:00

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description: r /> >> > >> > She was in Greece cavorting around with Tara Reid on "Taradise" last >> night. >> > 8oP >> > rod >> > "Mike" <spamthis@alltel.net> wrote: >> > >I would like to discuss Paris - anybody?.... anybody? >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> > >This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00AE_01C5B250.5D02A770 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nappy, Good luck when the kidney fairy comes your way! Rest up and be healthy. Tom "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message = news:431cbccb$1@linux... I'm glad you're dioing better. Prayers for the transplant. ;o) "Nappy" <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote in message = news:431cace6$1@linux... > > In preperation for a Kidney transplant I had to have a Angiogram and = Heart > Catherization. The angiogram revealed two of my arteries were = blocked and > they > had to place stents in the blocked arteries. Everything > went well and I'm doing great. Thank God I wasn't in > the path of Katrina. > > respect > Nappy ------=_NextPart_000_00AE_01C5B250.5D02A770 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> Nappy, Good luck when the kidney fairy comes = your=20 way! Rest up and be healthy. Tom &nbsp; <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> "DJ" &lt;<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net">animix_spam-this-ahole= _@animas.net&gt;=20 wrote in message <A=20 href=3D"news:431cbccb$1@linux">news:431cbccb$1@linux... I'm = glad you're=20 dioing better. Prayers for the transplant. ;o) "Nappy" = &lt;<A=20 href=3D"mailto:mgrant01@san.rr.com">mgrant01@san.rr.com&gt; wrote = in message=20 <A = href=3D"news:431cace6$1@linux">news:431cace6$1@linux... &gt; &g= t;=20 In preperation for a Kidney transplant I had to have a Angiogram and=20…
creator: Don Nafe
date: 2005-07-27T01:53:53-00:00

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description: jects are in the 40-80 track range. That's why I wonderd about setting cubase to do processing at a lower bit rate rate to avoid quantization noise. I'm still at SX 1.06....haven't made the jump to sx 3 yet, so I'm not sure what it can do. I only use cubase for sequencing and vsti's so far. Keep forging ahead, oh bleeding edge techno guru..better you than me. 80P rod "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote: >Hmmmm...........good question. I've been working this way for a while and to >be honest, I'm less and less thrilled by the sonics of the whole situation. >It's really nice to be able to just open up a UAD-1 plugin or insert an >external processor on a track and it is automatically compensated. That's >very cool. Also cool is being able to bus groups to compressors. > >The thing is, I'm doing mostly acoustic/bluegrass projects and the overall >clarity of the mix is a *huge* deal here. Processing always reduces that, no >matter what. Even without using processing in SX, there is processing going >on in the lightpipe transfer and the more I work this way, the more I'm >noticing a cumulative hit. It might work fine for pop music...........not as >well for this. > >I am very seriously considering cutting back on the SX machine and just >making it a sequencer/VSTi platform again and doing all of my mixing in >Paris. I'll probably keep the Multiface and unload one or both of the HDSP >9652's along with 3 x of my ADAT cards since I will be using Windows XP >again with Paris. > >I haven't decided for sure yet. It's been fun playing around with this >monster rig, but the more I work this way, the more I appreciate Paris and >it's sheer simplicity. If I was producing rock or pop music here, I'd be >thinking differently I think. > >The hoops I have to jump through transferring projects to Cubase SX just so >I can use the UAD-1 and other plugins with no latency take easily as much or >more time than it would take me to manually compensate for delay in Paris. > > > >"…
creator: audioguy_nospam_
date: 2005-07-27T01:59:29-00:00

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description: rs, > Kim."Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote: >but "homosecual" ???? Hehe... oops. ;oPThanks Martin. Cheers, Kim. "Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote: >Hi Kim >Here's the contact no (02) 9436 4444 www.sammys.com.au > >-- >Martin Harrington >www.lendanear-sound.com > >"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:431c2758$1@linux... >> >> "Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote: >>>Cnr McClaren St and Hotham Pde >>>Artarmon >> >> Is that McLachlan and Hotham? >> >> Panavision comes up 1 McLachlan Artarmon in the white pages. Can't find >> Samulson >> at all, but I'll give Panavision a ring and see if they can't put me on to >> them. >> >> Cheers, >> Kim. >> >> Cheers, >> Kim. > >Look after yourself Nappy. My sister went through the stent thing earlier this year, and then ended up having to have a quadruple bypass. All is fine now but was touch and go for a while...she is only 44, too. -- Martin Harrington www.lendanear-sound.com "Nappy" <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote in message news:431cace6$1@linux... > > In preperation for a Kidney transplant I had to have a Angiogram and Heart > Catherization. The angiogram revealed two of my arteries were blocked and > they > had to place stents in the blocked arteries. Everything > went well and I'm doing great. Thank God I wasn't in > the path of Katrina. > > respect > NappyI like FRENCH FRIES! 8OP "Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote: >What's wrong with FRENCH?? > >-- >Martin Harrington >www.lendanear-sound.com > >"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message >news:431c6cd5@linux... >> Don't get me started on the French........... >> >> ;o) >> >> "tonehouse" <zmcleod@comcast.net> wrote in message news:431c5555@linux... >>> You mean Paris "Texas"? I thought this was a rodeo group. Freedom Fries >> for >>> everyone... >>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message >>> news:431c4ded@linux... >>> > >>> > She was in Greece cavorting around with T…
creator: Deej [1]
date: 2005-07-27T02:24:41-00:00

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description: message news:431ced2d$1@linux... > > > Go with Seagates...very quiet, plenty fast and reliable. > > MEB > > "uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote: >> >>Also, what's the best name in drives these days? >> >>Jimmy >> >> >Woo hoo - cool that they caught that! Last year, I had an "episode": got taken to the ER, flat-lined, got brought back, admitted, had another stroke and heart attack a few hours later, got stented - my heart and blood flow's now doing fine. I pray that everything goes well with your future transplant. Peace - Don On 6 Sep 2005 06:39:02 +1000, "Nappy" <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote: > >In preperation for a Kidney transplant I had to have a Angiogram and Heart >Catherization. The angiogram revealed two of my arteries were blocked and >they >had to place stents in the blocked arteries. Everything >went well and I'm doing great. Thank God I wasn't in >the path of Katrina. > &
creator: gene lennon
date: 2005-07-27T04:11:25-00:00

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description: gt;respect >NappyMy prayers are with you Nappy. Thank you for being positive nad please never loose your faith that you will get better. Dimitrios "Nappy" <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote in message news:431cace6$1@linux... > > In preperation for a Kidney transplant I had to have a Angiogram and Heart > Catherization. The angiogram revealed two of my arteries were blocked and > they > had to place stents in the blocked arteries. Everything > went well and I'm doing great. Thank God I wasn't in > the path of Katrina. > > respect > Nappythe french are never right but sometimes, they're less wrong. ;o) On 6 Sep 2005 11:56:47 +1000, "cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote: > >I have been thinking of a new bumper sticker: > >"the French were right" > >But, I'll lay off right now > > > >"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote: >>What's wrong with FRENCH?? >> >>-- >>Martin Harrington >>www.lendanear-sound.com >> >>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message >>news:431c6cd5@linux... >>> Don't get me started on the French........... >>> >>> ;o) >>> >>> "tonehouse" <zmcleod@comcast.net> wrote in message news:431c5555@linux... >>>> You mean Paris "Texas"? I thought this was a rodeo group. Freedom Fries >>> for >>>> everyone... >>>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message >>>> news:431c4ded@linux... >>>> > >>>> >
creator: Neil
date: 2005-07-27T04:38:09-00:00

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description: luzier@comcast.net" target="_blank">j.luzier@comcast.net> wrote: >I actually had this thought once before but then reading some of these posts >reminded of that thought. > >the thought is this..... > >have debate shows on TV influenced the way ordinary people like us talk >about our views on things? on those shows you get like 4 minutes total for >all sides to voice their opinion. when the issues are big and important you >often get very opinionated people who are practically yelling at each other >and not being very personable. let's face it.... if somebody makes some >outlandish comment or calls somebody a name, its good for ratings and make >more "news". > >where are we gonna be in 20 years if we can't talk about government without >hating each other and cussing people out? > >Jeremy > >i've heard rumors of people who watch the credit...but i've never d-loaded enough of the teasers to get that far...mmm On 6 Sep 2005 02:40:28 +1000, "jason Miles" <Jmiles45@aol.com> wrote: > > >>> Where possible I'd also prefer we kept political stuff on the General > >>> group. > >lets see-that request has been made to keep topics like this in general discussion >for 5 years-hasn't worked so far >What should be discussed here? >The future of Paris?-Oh Ok we know that answer >Edmund Piralli?-Rest my case >Paris sounds great?-never knew that >Jenna Jamison and how the soundtracks to her movies are done on Paris?-want >a visual demo
creator: Deej [1]
date: 2005-07-27T04:51:56-00:00

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description: >JM >hang in there nappman. the thoughts and prayers are still happening. On 6 Sep 2005 06:39:02 +1000, "Nappy" <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote: > >In preperation for a Kidney transplant I had to have a Angiogram and Heart >Catherization. The angiogram revealed two of my arteries were blocked and >they >had to place stents in the blocked arteries. Everything >went well and I'm doing great. Thank God I wasn't in >the path of Katrina. > >respect >NappySEE SEE...discounting "dumb luck", not all of you ideas are "crackpot"
creator: gene lennon
date: 2005-07-27T05:04:46-00:00

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description: in nature. On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 19:28:38 -0600, "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote: >The tracks I'm mixing were recorded with 12 open mics in the same room. Mic >bleed all over everything. There is a reverb preset on the Quantec Yardstick >called Muffled Cine. the combination of this reverb along with the ambience >in the room seems to dampen some of the early reflections I've been >struggling with and has considerably improved the mic bleed issues I've been >having. > > >"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message >news:431ca4b0@linux... >> I've posted before about using Cubase SX and Paris in a doubleDAW mix >> scenario. One of the *issues* with this is that files are being processed >at<br
creator: Neil
date: 2005-07-27T05:11:25-00:00

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description: ux..." target="_blank">1@linux... > > Jason, > You hit the the nail on the head. Its not a matter > of financial success. I know many middle class > blacks . > Let me tell you a story on how most blacks I know see > Powell and Rice. > > Have you ever been in a warehouse? Most are big building > with a open floor plan and at one end is a set of stairs that > lead to a office that over looks the floor. This is were the boss and the > head guys sit and look down on the workers. > They look over the figures and decide how much they need from each worker > to make their quarterly goals. To help them to get the workers to make their > goals they need > someone looking over them since they dont make much > money they tend to try do > just enough to reach the goals that are asked of them. > But,there is always one or two of the workers(black or brown)that does more > than the others and seems to > have more drive than the others. The big guys call him > up to the office and decide to make him a superviser. > Now everyone on the outside thinks,see blacks are > getting places. But not s
creator: EK Sound
date: 2005-07-27T14:59:10-00:00

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description: my diet. And pizza. But here in Alaska, > neither are worth eating anyway. Ain't no Carnegie or Totonno's in > this neighborhood. > > Nappy, I would assume that, if you are having nightmares, they are > related to stress. Certainly you are in one of the scariest emotional > places any of us could find ourselves. > > Be very encouraged: I have several friends that have gone through > kidney transplants - one just a year ago, the others over the last > decade. They are all thriving and lead virtually the same lives they > have led all along. > > Peace - Don > > On 7 Sep 2005 02:57:29 +1000, "Nappy" <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote: > > >>Wow Don, >>I'm very lucky indeed,must have been scary. >>Did you have nightmares after the stents? >> >>respect >>Nappy >> >>DMorrell <don@toneworks.com> wrote: >> >>>Woo hoo - cool that they caught that! Last year, I had an "episode": >>>got taken to the ER, flat-lined, got brought back, admitted, had >>>another stroke and heart attack a few hours later, got stented - my >>>heart and blood flow's now doing fine. >>> >>>I pray that everything goes well with your future transplant. >>> >>>Peace - Don >>> >>>On 6 Sep 2005 06:39:02 +1000, "Nappy" <<a href="mailto:mgrant01@san
creator: John Macy
date: 2005-07-27T16:05:01-00:00

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description: ank">musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message > > > news:431de9b2@linux... > > > > > > > I have two mecs and one 442. > > > > > > > Here is my situation... > > > > > > > When I use the two mecs with external wordclock they work fine. > > > > > > > Mec1 at A and mec2 at D (4 cards) > > > > > > > When I put a 442 (without the housesync in paris cfg) then I > > don't > > > > get > > > > > > the > > > > > > > ins/outs of 442 to work. > > > > > > > When I put the housesync then I get 442 ins/outs to work but > mec2 > > > ins > > > > > outs > > > > > > > don't work. > > > > > > > I clock mec1 from ADIPRO8, mec2 from mec1 and 442 from external > > > > > wordclock > > > > > > > that slaves to adipro8. > > > > > > > I don't want to have 442 in A card because then I cannot have > > 24bit > > > > > spdif > > > > > > > output for monitoring... > > > > > > > Any help - suggestion ? > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > Dimitrios > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >"Nappy" <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote: >The big guys call him >up to the office and decide to make him a superviser. >Now everyone on the outside thinks,see blacks are >getting places. But not so fast! They make him believe >that if he continues to work hard he will become one >of them,but he will never become one of them and >at >some point he will realize that he has been use to do the >dirty work for them. Nappy, I remember being a college kid and having to rent small houses and apartments. The landlord can throw your butt out at any time for any reason. One of them got tossed out of his in-laws house for beating his wife and ordered me out
creator: AlexPlasko
date: 2005-07-27T20:22:14-00:00

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description: on one day notice! I had just moved in 3 days earlier. I said only with a complete refund of every nickel. He refused, and told me he would sue me for damaging the house (which I did not do) if I did not get out that night. I did not, and ended up defending myself in court (lost) and on appeal (settled for a few hundred). Fun huh? Why am I telling you this? Because an experience like that will make a flaming Bolshevik out of anyone. An experience like what you are describing will result in the way you feel. It's only reasonable that this is so. Two problems though. 1. Your model does not account for the black leaders who not only do great work, but will bend for no one. Rice and Powell are prime examples. I do not believe that *anyone* pulls their strings. And frankly, although we know there is still racism out there, the hate shown towards conservative black leaders by liberals of all colors, is often much, much worse than any racism they have experienced. It starts with the idea that they are just puppets. And how will your model hold up if Rice becomes president? Think she will be one of the bosses then? But she will STILL be slandered by the left for not being one of them, won't she? This is not what King had in mind is it? 2. The fundamental difference between the left and the right on this is NO LONGER "do we like black people?" any more. This is not 1961. (and honestly, look at liberal cities like San Fran and Portland OR and try to find some black people) The fundamental difference today is whether we believe that the government should provide equal opportunities or equal results. The right believes that the government should provide equal opportunites, but the left believes that unequal results automatically equal racism. The left believe this because it keeps them in power and keeps people coming back to them for handouts, creating a permanent underclass of black victims on the bottom and white liberals on top with handouts. But of course, equal opportunit…
creator: Neil
date: 2005-07-27T20:54:44-00:00

Re: True Earth Ground
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description: gt;damaging the house (which I did not do) if I did not get out that >night. I did not, and ended up defending myself in court (lost) >and on appeal (settled for a few hundred). Fun huh? > >Why am I telling you this? Because an experience like that will >make a flaming Bolshevik out of anyone. An experience like >what you are describing will result in the way you feel. It's only >reasonable that this is so. > >Two problems though. > >1. Your model does not account for the black leaders who not only >do great work, but will bend for no one. Rice and Powell are prime >examples. I do not believe that *anyone* pulls their strings. >And frankly, although we know there is still racism out there, >the hate shown towards conservative black leaders by liberals of >all colors, is often much, much worse than any racism they have >experienced. It starts with the idea that they are just puppets. > >And how will your model hold up if Rice becomes president? >Think she will be one of the bosses then? But she will STILL be >slandered by the left for not being one of them, won't she? > >This is not what King had in mind is it? > > >2. The fundamental difference between the left and the right on >this is NO LONGER "do we like black people?" any more. This is not >1961. (and honestly, look at liberal cities like San Fran and >Portland OR and try to find some black people) The fundamental >difference today is whether we believe that the government should >provide equal opportunities or equal results. The right believes >that the government should provide equal opportunites, but the >left believes that unequal results automatically equal racism. > >The left believe this because it keeps them in power and keeps >people coming back to them for handouts, creating a permanent >underclass of black victims on the bottom and white liberals on top with >handouts. > >But of course, equal opportunity does not always give equal results. >And that offends those with socialistic bents. Unfortunately…
creator: Mike ClMike Claytor
date: 2005-07-27T23:44:13-00:00

Re: True Earth Ground
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description: > >And you if think I am pissed, read this guy: > >http://www.ejectejecteject.com/archives/000129.html > > >Take care of yourself. > >DC"jason Miles" <Jmiles45@aol.com> wrote: > >leave me out of your posts-you have too much time on your hands to have the >time to write all of this bullshit-Rice ain't gonna be president (neither >is Hillary so I cut you off at the pass on this one) but if she does I will >take up several offers that I have in Europe and Move >JM Well, you'd probably fit right in. At any rate this is not personal. I have nothing against you personally. But the choice here could not be clearer. One of us is wrong. good luck on your shows, man. DC"Nappy" <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote: >But,there is always one or two of the workers(black or brown)that does more >than the others and seems to >have more drive than the others. The big guys call him >up to the office and decide to make him a superviser. >Now everyone on the outside thinks,see blacks are >getting places. But not so fast! They make him believe >that if he continues to work hard he will become one >of them,but he will never become one of them and >at >some point he will realize that he has been use to do the >dirty work for them. Oh... my... god... I can't beleive I'm reading this. So they SHOULDN'T promote the black guy because he's the best worker down on the floor? Wait, that wouldn't be right... if he's the best worker, then he SHOULD be the one to get promoted. No, wait again, but then he'd be getting screwed by getting promoted, for the reasons that you just said. OK, so we don't want him to get screwed, so we'll leave him where he is... no, but then we'd be screwing him by NOT promoting him. Looks like from your perspective the black guy is screwed either way by working there. NeilHey guys, trying to get input from some four or more card system useres ... I have a three card system and I remember that things became a lot more instable when I went from a 2 card to a 3card system ... is the …
creator: Mike ClMike Claytor
date: 2005-07-28T00:04:08-00:00

Re: True Earth Ground
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description: the whole lousy bunch of liars here are so >short on facts that they must tell bigger and bigger lies and get >angrier and angrier to cover up their dishonesty. It won't work. > >BTW, just for the record. I believe in reparations. Every black >american would get free college or trade school with living and >food paid for. Just in case you think I am a hard rightie... >No money though. No handouts. > >And you if think I am pissed, read this guy: > >http://www.ejectejecteject.com/archives/000129.html > > >Take care of yourself. > >DCYou don't frighten us, English pig-dogs! Go and boil your bottom, sons of a silly person. I blow my nose at you, so-called Arthur King, you and all your silly English k-nnnnniggets. Thpppppt! Thppt! Thppt! "Tony" <tonyx@standingxhampton.com> wrote in message news:BF43C89A.3ED82%tonyx@standingxhampton.com... > I'm not dead. ;>) > > And my all time favorite: > > King Arthur: The Lady of the Lake, her arm clad in the purest shimmering > samite held aloft Excalibur from the bosom of the water, signifying by > divine providence that I, Arthur, was to carry Excalibur. THAT is why I am > your king. > > Dennis: [interrupting] Listen, strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' > swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power > derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic > ceremony. > > http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071853/quotes > > > Regards, > > The Black Knight > > > On 9/6/05 9:27 PM, in article 431e4f22$1@linux, "DJ" > <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote: > > > bring out y'er dead!!!!!!!!!! > > > > ;o) > > > > > > > > "Ni-Knights" <ni@hahaha.org> wrote in message news:431e4dda$1@linux... > >> > >> TC <tc@spammetodeathyoubastards.org> wrote: > >> > >>> I am sure there are French Paris users here, and you are adding nothing > >> constructive > >>> to this forum. Grow up. > >> > >> > >> A-ha! Yes the FFrrench use Paris! They use it, and abuse it, and > >> have ruined it with their smelly per…
creator: Craig Mitchell
date: 2005-07-28T04:07:32-00:00