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Re: Weird phase stuff!
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description: master, I've only got console pres). What are the Grace pre's? As for the desk, I'm only using it for monitoring and for the mic pres (I use mic in to the direct outs straight into the paris ins, and then mix solely in Paris). Dan "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote: >I have worked with the 386, the firepod, the bluetube and digimaxLT .. can't >recommend any of those, honestly. They all seemed to suffer from either QC >problems or just plainly didn't sound good. I'd be more inclined to steer >you towards a Grace set, less of them but better quality per buck, because >you already have generic pres in the console. >As to the console, are you routing the mix through it or through paris? > >AA > > >"Dan B" <<a href="mailto:daniel_burne@yahooNOSPAM.com" target="_bl
creator: John [1]
date: 2005-07-11T13:25:58-00:00

Weird phase stuff!
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description: rsation. While I know it's >> >frustrating to have political threads on ANY newsgroup that's >> >not politically-oriented, like someone pointed out, it's part >> >of life & is tough to avoid that sort of thing from time to >> >time in an unmoderated setting. It's even tougher to try & >> >take those threads over to another section of the group, >> >because once you see a post that you feel compelled to respond >> >to it's kinda like golf... you gotta play it where it lies :D >> > >> >Anyway, thanks to everyone for a mostly civil tone... that's a >> >personal thanks to the people I was engaged in conversation >> >with this was a lot better than some threads I've seen here in >> >my time on this NG. >> > >> >"And, now back to your regularly-scheduled audio rants!" >> > >> >Neil >> >There used to be a Will Downing around Washington, D.C. many years ago. Might this be the same guy? Gantt Tyrone Corbett wrote: > Hey guys, just getting back into town from a another stint with Will Downing. > This past weekend we were in California for the Pasadena Jazz festival. It > was a really cool hit as well as a great opportunity to spend some time with > other colleagues that I've worked with as well as those that I enjoy listening > to. > > We were brought on by comedian Sinbad...he's still got it! I also saw Jonathan > Butler, Brian Culbertson, Richard Elliot, Rick Braun and even Evelyn "Champaign" > King. > > We followed that up with a night in Las Vegas (116 degrees) at the Las Vegas > Hilton with R&B crooner Kem. Although I'm not a gambler, I walked away with > some additional funding from a "one arm bandit", so suffice it to say, I > had a great trip. > > TyroneWhat a great time to be making and recording music. Yeeha! MR "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote: > > >Hehe... in 1994 waiting until the Sony optical writers get to under $40,000. >;oP > >...and here's me in 2005 waiting until Dual layer DVD burners get to under >$40... ;o) > >Cheers, >Kim. > >"DJ" <animix_spam-thi…
creator: Mike ClMike Claytor
date: 2005-07-11T15:39:36-00:00

Re: Weird phase stuff!
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description: " target="_blank">1@linux... >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> In short - comments on $400-700 multichannel mic pre's - e.g. >>> Focusrite Octopre >>> Focusrite Octopre LE >>> Presonus Digimax LT >>> Presonus MP20 >>> Presonus Bluetube >>> Presonus Firepod >>> M-Audio Octane >>> dbx 386 >>> >>> >>> In long... Mic pre wise at the moment I have only a Focusrite Platinum > >>> Voicemaster >>> and a Soundcraft Spirit Folio Desk. I suspect the desk is the weak link > in >>> my studio, and so am after some replacement pres. The budget's limited > >>> (ideally >>> $600 ish, but may be able to stretch). Ideally it would have 8 channels, >>> but some have suggested I'd be better buying a decent 2 (or 4) channel > >>> unit, >>> and using the desk for the rest. That way acoustic guitar could be >>> recorded >>> with 3 mics through decent pres. I'd only need to use the desk pres for > >>> extra >>> drum mics beyond the 3 channels (each instrument tracked individually). > >>> It'd >>> only be worth investing the money in an 8 channel pre if they're going > to >>> be a fairly significantly better than those in the desk. >>> >>> Many thanks for any advice / suggestions. >>> >>> BTW, mic wise I'm using AT4033a's as O/Hs / Vocals / acoustic guitar, > >>> C418s >>> on toms / snare top, SM57 (underneath snare), D112 kick. I *may* buy a > >>> Rode >>> NTK (valve) for vocals / acoustic guitar. >> >> >http://www.voxengo.com/product/r8brain/ it's great, it's free. They also make a Pro version, but I've never used it. Anyone have any comments on the difference between the two. rod "Jeremy Luzier" <j.luzier@comcast.net> wrote: >Is Wavelab gonna destroy files going from 48k to 44k? > >Doesn't Voxengo make a free sample rate convertor? > >What would be considered high end sample rate conversion.... hardware? or >software? > >hmmmm. > >Jeremy > > >The PreSonus M80 is Just like the M20..except it has 8 pre's instead of 2. You can get them in the 1300-1500 range..maybe cheaper on ebay. I've got one and it's p…
creator: Tom Bruhl
date: 2005-07-11T17:37:26-00:00

Re: Weird phase stuff!
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description: > wrote in message >>news:42de84ca$1@linux... >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> In short - comments on $400-700 multichannel mic pre's - e.g. >>> Focusrite Octopre >>> Focusrite Octopre LE >>> Presonus Digimax LT >>> Presonus MP20 >>> Presonus Bluetube >>> Presonus Firepod >>> M-Audio Octane >>> dbx 386 >>> >>> >>> In long... Mic pre wise at the moment I have only a Focusrite Platinum > >>> Voicemaster >>> and a Soundcraft Spirit Folio Desk. I suspect the desk is the weak link >in >>> my studio, and so am after some replacement pres. The budget's limited > >>> (ideally >>> $600 ish, but may be able to stretch). Ideally it would have 8 channels, >>> but some have suggested I'd be better buying a decent 2 (or 4) channel > >>> unit, >>> and using the desk for the rest. That way acoustic guitar could be >>> recorded >>> with 3 mics through decent pres. I'd only need to use the desk p
creator: Mike ClMike Claytor
date: 2005-07-11T17:38:47-00:00

Re: Weird phase stuff!
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description: e desk for the rest. That way acoustic guitar could be recorded >with 3 mics through decent pres. I'd only need to use the desk pres for extra >drum mics beyond the 3 channels (each instrument tracked individually). It'd >only be worth investing the money in an 8 channel pre if they're going to >be a fairly significantly better than those in the desk. > >Many thanks for any advice / suggestions. > >BTW, mic wise I'm using AT4033a's as O/Hs / Vocals / acoustic guitar, C418s >on toms / snare top, SM57 (underneath snare), D112 kick. I *may* buy a Rode >NTK (valve) for vocals / acoustic guitar.yell at them til they agree with you.I must agree tht the digimax sounds bad. I mixed a tune that another guy recorded using these and every thing was harsh thin and grainy. Of course I was not there so it could have been some other issue. (pro tools?) I have a 16 channel spirit folio rac pac. I used to use it only as extra pres for snare bottom and as a talk back and things like that. I have since discovered that it sounds really nice. I had to trac a scratch acoustic while working paris thinking I'd replace it..no way, it is sweet and musical. Since then I use it on snare top and toms too ( I like the eq pre paris) I would not say it is going to give you slammin Neve sound or whatever..but honestly, I am sorta tired of that anyway. "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote: >I have worked with the 386, the firepod, the bluetube and digimaxLT .. can't >recommend any of those, honestly. They all seemed to suffer from either QC >problems or just plainly didn't sound good. I'd be more inclined to steer >you towards a Grace set, less of them but better quality per buck, because >you already have generic pres in the console. >As to the console, are you routing the mix through it or through paris? > >AA > > >"Dan B" <daniel_burne@yahooNOSPAM.com> wrote in message >news:42de84ca$1@linux... >> >> Hi, >> >> In short - comments on $400-700 multichannel mic pre's - e.g. >> Focusrite Octopr…
creator: Tom Bruhl
date: 2005-07-11T18:11:29-00:00

Re: Weird phase stuff!
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description: check box in the plugin window). Make sure you use the time lock tool to copy the track. Right click and drag will copy. David. Don Nafe wrote: > Hi All > > Please pardon the DUH factor > > I'm tekking a conference and making some idea notes on a mix I have to do > and I want to use a stereo effect but have never done it before so... > > How does one apply stereo EDS & Native FX? > > I'm assuming you double the track and pan left and right then use two > instances of the plugin > > Correct? > > Don > > >you mean with mr. 3 legs himself. they'd prolly convert to a mac format just to spite him. On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 07:23:14 -0600, "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote: >..........or threaten them with vicious dogs > >"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message >news:taqud11vhfl2b087cd7cav9olqubifvcoe@4ax.com... >> yell at them til they agree with you. >how about a Mixwizard 16:2 cujo wrote: > I must agree tht the digimax sounds bad. I mixed a tune that another guy recorded > using these and every thing was harsh thin and grainy. Of course I was not > there so it could have been some other issue. (pro tools?) I have a 16 channel > spirit folio rac pac. I used to use it only as extra pres for snare bottom > and as a talk back and things like that. I have since discovered that it > sounds really nice. I had to trac a scratch acoustic while working paris > thinking I'd replace it..no way, it is sweet and musical. Since then I use > it on snare top and toms too ( I like the eq pre paris) I would not say it > is going to give you slammin Neve sound or whatever..but honestly, I am sorta > tired of that anyway. > > > "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote: > >>I have worked with the 386, the firepod, the bluetube and digimaxLT .. can't > > >>recommend any of those, honestly. They all seemed to suffer from either > > QC > >>problems or just plainly didn't sound good. I'd be more inclined to steer > > >>you towards a Grace set, less of them but better quality p…
creator: Mike ClMike Claytor
date: 2005-07-11T19:03:14-00:00

Re: Weird phase stuff!
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description: > wrote in message news:42e068e9@linux... > > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote: >>I've got no problem working with Cubase. The DR 16 doesn't have a smpte > card >>though. I would think that the 9 pin port would be a receiver since it's > for >>a remote control. Icf it doesn't lock to Paris, I'll try it with Cubase > and >>one of my RME cards. Can't think of any other way to do it. The (127) page >>manual will be shipped with it so after an RTFM interlude, maybe I can get >>my head around this. It looks like a pretty cool recording device. > > Ahh.. the SMPTE card was an option on that, IIRC - the one I > owned had one. > As far as a recording device, it's pretty handy for certain > things, but I didn't like the convertors, personally. > Let me know if I can help - if you're hacing trouble, maybe > send me a .jpg shot of the back panel & it could refresh my > memory as to the connections, etc... does that particular unit > have the BNC connections, do you know? > > NeilAsus motherboards with an AMD cpu are a safe bet with Paris. "Sanbar" <sanbar@wi.rr.com> wrote in message news:42de8877@linux... > I've decided to break down and get a new computer for the Paris. I've got a > 2 card and 1 UAD-1 setup running 3.0 on XP. > > I'm basically looking for the least expensive way that will still do the > job. Any recommendations for motherboard, memory, processor, etc. > > I'm thinking about something along the lines of a motherboard with 5 PCI > slots and 800 fsb, Pentium 2.6 processor and 1 gb ram. Suggestions would be > greatly appreciated. I don't use midi or any other linked machines such as > cubase etc. > > Thanks > > Barry > >I've seen someone mention that adding an external clock to Paris made the reverb tails sound smoother. Is this just a benefit to the D/A converters that allow you to hear more clearly or does it have any effect on internal processing? Can an external clock help the sound of already recorded tracks being internally printed? RZYeh, it…
creator: Rod Lincoln
date: 2005-07-11T19:23:40-00:00

Re: Weird phase stuff!
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description: y acoustic guitar could be recorded >>with 3 mics through decent pres. I'd only need to use the desk pres for > > extra > >>drum mics beyond the 3 channels (each instrument tracked individually). > > It'd > >>only be worth investing the money in an 8 channel pre if they're going to >>be a fairly significantly better than those in the desk. >> >>Many thanks for any advice / suggestions. >> >>BTW, mic wise I'm using AT4033a's as O/Hs / Vocals / acoustic guitar, C418s >>on toms / snare top, SM57 (underneath snare), D112 kick. I *may* buy a Rode >>NTK (valve) for vocals / acoustic guitar. > >Why? Should it been in General?-) erlilo "justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compound> skrev i en meddelelse news:42e051eb@linux... > http://www.obleek.com/iraq/index.html >Sorry, wayyyy offf topic but does anyone know a guitar player in Houston, TX who would be interested in playing in a Praise and Worship band? I need one BAD.FWIW, I recently bought off eBay, a Mytek Stereo DAC 96k and it makes even mp3s purr... El Miguel "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:42df078f$1@linux... > > "Miguel Vigil" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote: > >Kim, > > > >Don't you use a MEC i/o or 442? > > Indeed... both in fact, hence for Paris I could use these for my SPDIF I/O. > The soundcard's digital I/O would be more for Wavelab, and/or for whatever > else I use the box for. I plan for the machine to have multiple boots, and > under one of them it may end up as my jukebox/media centre, hence a digital > output would allow me to run an external DAC in the future for my casual > listening... ...of course a quality DAC is kinda wasted on MP3's, but > still. ;o) > > Cheers, > Kim.> I still say that mobo is about the most solid thing I've ever put together. Your recommendation and the url to the mobo above was most welcome last year. El Miguel "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message news:42dbce94@linux... > I still say that mobo is about the most solid thing I've ever put together. …
creator: Mike ClMike Claytor
date: 2005-07-11T19:51:41-00:00

Re: Weird phase stuff!
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description: ge news:42df078f$1@linux... > > > > "Miguel Vigil" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote: > > >Kim, > > > > > >Don't you use a MEC i/o or 442? > > > > Indeed... both in fact, hence for Paris I could use these for my SPDIF > I/O. > > The soundcard's digital I/O would be more for Wavelab, and/or for whatever > > else I use the box for. I plan for the machine to have multiple boots, and > > under one of them it may end up as my jukebox/media centre, hence a > digital > > output would allow me to run an external DAC in the future for my casual > > listening... ...of course a quality DAC is kinda wasted on MP3's, but > > still. ;o) > > > > Cheers, > > Kim. > >Pretty much leaves no doubt who's paying the highest price to bring freedom to Iraq. Oh shit, now I've done it! ;>) Tony "erlilo" <erlilo@online.no> wrote in message news:42e0a49a@linux... > Why? Should it been in General?-) > > erlilo > > > "justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compound> skrev i en meddelelse > news:42e051eb@linux... >> http://www.obleek.com/iraq/index.html >> > >Just spent two days working in Digital Performer and I have only this to say: I LOVE PARIS! GanttIn all fairness to DP, it was a classical piano piece w/ a lot of rubato and retards, so we didn't use a click. The client wanted to be able to change the key and she wasn't sure what key she needed, so I needed to record MIDI. Sequencing without a time reference is probably not a strong point for any sequencing program... Gantt Gantt Kushner wrote: > Just spent two days working in Digital Performer and I have only this to > say: > > I LOVE PARIS! > > GanttI've been using DP for about six months for midi and VSTi stuff, then transferring the files over to PARIS. I'm sure some of it's just that I'm not used to DP, but I can edit and mix at least 10 times faster in PARIS. It's just so intuitive. At least for me. Plus, she sounds better IMHO. The old gal won't be retiring any time soon. Tony "Gantt Kushner" <gizmo@his.com> wrote in message news:42E1464C.98E76879@…
creator: Rod Lincoln
date: 2005-07-11T20:16:37-00:00

Re: Weird phase stuff!
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description: tter at 96 and starts to sound like high-end analog equipment. Others like the Sony Oxford plugs, or the TC VSS3 reverb running on Powercore also benefit dramatically. This is frequently not subtle at all. Another place where the change is dramatic is with some soft synths like FM7, which sounds far better at 96 (this is not true of all synths). I have been playing around with hybridized Paris setups that include some 96 with mixed results. Gene "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote: >I'll bet some of you have probably done this already, but I'm been curious >for years about the *real deal* with native DAWs at 96kHz vs Paris at >44.1kHz. I've heard 96kHz recordings done in both Nuendo and ProTools HD but >I've just never been able to get them into some sort of A/B situation in my >own studio. I've got Mytek 96kHz A/D converter here and I've spent part of >the day getting this happening in a situation where I can actually track to >SX and achieve a hi rez D/A conversion so I can use my headphone monitoring >system in a real life tracking scenario. I've also purchased an RME >Multiface and PCI card which will be integrated into the dual DAW situation >I've got going here and will also provide me the capability of doing limited >(10 tracks simultaneously) tracking sessions at 96kHz - gotta' be able to >advertize this. I'm one of two studios that can't do hi rez and I feel like >I need the capability, if for no other reason than to just say that I can. >I've also got DVD authoring capabilities in Wavelab 5.0. I'm real curious to >know if it's really *that much better* than Paris at 44.1, both in a >scenario where I am
creator: Deej [3]
date: 2005-07-12T04:27:51-00:00

Re: Weird phase stuff!
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description: > they'll make a hardware version so they won't? then again, couple > that with auto tune or melodyne and i could be the next billy > idol...remember, xmas is just around the corner unky D. > > On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 01:32:34 -0600, "DJ" > <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote: > > >http://www.antarestech.com/products/avox.html > > >I'm still sticking to 44.1/48k as most of my work is composing, arranging, and production - quite difficult to run 96k on projects with large orchestral libraries, samplers and softsynths that already tax my PC to it's limit. I do plan, and need to start moving to 96k soon, at least for acoustic recordings. I'm looking into building an Athlon X2 before I do much with it though. Compatibility is still up in the air for motherboards and X2's right now (esp. with UAD-1s). Regards, Dedric On 7/23/05 10:28 PM, in article 42e318fb@linux, "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote: > I'll bet some of you have probably done this already, but I'm been curious > for years about the *real deal* with native DAWs at 96kHz vs Paris at > 44.1kHz. I've heard 96kHz recordings done in both Nuendo and ProTools HD but > I've just never been able to get them into some sort of A/B situation in my > own studio. I've got Mytek 96kHz A/D converter here and I've spent part of > the day getting this happening in a situation where I can actually track to > SX and achieve a hi rez D/A conversion so I can use my headphone monitoring > system in a real life tracking scenario. I've also purchased an RME > Multiface and PCI card which will be integrated into the dual DAW situation > I've got going here and will also provide me the capability of doing limited > (10 tracks simultaneously) tracking sessions at 96kHz - gotta' be able to > advertize this. I'm one of two studios that can't do hi rez and I feel like > I need the capability, if for no other reason than to just say that I can. > I've also got DVD authoring capabilities in Wavelab 5.0. I'm real curious to …
creator: John [1]
date: 2005-07-12T07:20:35-00:00