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Compaq Presario for softsynth box. Good or bad?
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description: ;> >> >>My few is nail the fuckers when you can find them, and make life absolutely miserable for those who are helping them. But then you're making them mad and breeding millions more of them. The answer to this may be exactly what GWB is wanting to do...........give the people a say in their own lives. Of course, this pisses off the religious zealots who want to keep the population in lockdown, the Sunni's in Iraq who used to be in power in Iraq and now are not and the those who think we are exporting democracy at the point of a gun because they don't like our policies. Funny though, I sure don't see the general population of Afghanistan clamoring for the return of the Taliban. I also don't see a mass uprising in Iraq in favor of returning Sadaam to power. "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:42d7acb1@linux... > > "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:42d7521a$1@linux... > > > > Germaine (NOT "Jackson" lol) to your post: > > For the record... I'm all for a peaceful solution; however (and > > let's now bring this over to a personal level where more people > > may be able to understand it rather than conceptualize it), if > > it's apparent that the guy on the opposite side of the ring > > from you does not want to take off his gloves, but would rather > > beat the shit out of you until you are dead, you have EXACTLY > > two choices: > > > > 1.) get beaten until you are dead. > > 2.) beat the shit out of him until he is. > > > > What would you do? > > > > This is pretty fucking simple to me. > > > > Neil > > > > I'm in total agreement here Neil the only problem with your scenario is, > after you've done the first guy....there are 1000 more right behind him and > half of the paying audience who came to watch this smack down is booing you > cause they think you were a little hard on his sorry ass. > > This is a religious war being waged by ignorant extremists who for whatever > reason have decided we're the enemy and as we all know once you bring >…
creator: Tom Bruhl
date: 2005-06-30T20:00:33-00:00

Re: Compaq Presario for softsynth box. Good or bad?
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description: br /> > > > so, yes, i do acknowledge that both roads can lead to success. > do you? it appears you dont, so whos the dogmatic type here? > > >>No it doesn't, or it would have worked with Hussein, Kim Il Sung, >>Hitler and the Branch Davidians. You are not allowing for insanity >>and evil in the world and you are assuming that a rational person's >>version of a more attractive situation will always be accepted. > > > from a palaestinian point of view, israel is the aggressor > that took their land. they dont have the military power, > so they go the terror route. being the frakkingeuropacifistidiotdude that > i am, i despise that > just as much, so id prefer it if you dont switch between > calling me a blind pacifist one moment and then a guy > that doesnt criticize palaestina (and thus somewhat supports the use of > terror), > whatever fits the best. > > from their point of view, theyre actually doing exactly > the same thing - use brute force. they dont have planes, > so they use suicide bombers. if you were on their side, > its what you would recommend. and if the enemy threatened to > use more power, youd recommend that the enemy gets a > demonstration of your force. > > somewhere in there lies a fundamental, unsolvable problem. > throw in a ticking clock (islamic countries getting the bomb > sooner or later, whether you want it or not), > and look again at the one guy that at the very least came > close to peace down there - ooooh it was that deescalation > dude. what a coincidence. > > im not saying its the ultimate solution. i find pretending > to have absolute solutions (a very popular practice here, > or so it seems) rather silly. im trying to have a civiliced > discussion about the possible different paths to a solution, > if there is one at all. i can ackownledge and talk about > both approaches, you seem to struggle with that part > and fall back into europe-is-so-whatever rants, which, > btw, are no better than george-bush-is-pure-evil bullshit. > its k…
creator: Tom Bruhl
date: 2005-06-30T22:02:22-00:00

Re: Compaq Presario for softsynth box. Good or bad?
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description: atever. i beg you, please READ > what i say now: > > oh yes, as things are, i would stab a knife in that guys back. > its what the current situation asks for. > > read it? ok, so i can get a little more into detail: > > but it doesnt end there. i just stabbed the guy in the back. > what about the next guy? and the one after him? whats the > best way to avoid a neverending "guys with bombs" supply. > are there, god forbid, several possible approaches? is > it worth a discussion? cause, it would be unfair to > the soldiers to make them do this all the time while > we dont do anything for it to ever change. > > > > >> Until you allow for the full range of responses, >>you are acting as an advocate for them. > > > theres someone not ready for the "full range of responses" > here, but it aint me. > > >>So, if you could get a "peace process" going while he was at the >>peak of his powers, it might have succeeded? What? Until when, >>the following thursday? > > > in the right tempo to draw all religious fanatic idiots > on all sides (repeat: ALL sides. that includes the moslems! > do you hear me!) with them. > > >>His greed and corruption would have >>eventually toppled him and your peace process. > > > youre confusing things here, its what actually got him > to participate. and boy did it help him. it turned him > from an internationally sought after outlaw into > a somewhat respected politician, probably making him > richer than he ever dreamt of in the process. you tell > me that guy wanted to go back into tunnel system terrorist > mode? never. man is too selfish and greedy for that. > > >>Do you really believe that hamas and hizbullah would not have >>formed if Arafat had made a deal with Rabin?? > > > they had already formed. the difference was, arafat had them > under control and as long as he came home with results > from the peace process, he had the people in his back. > > > >>And why are they able to do this? Is it not the actions of the >>palestinians and the ar…
creator: Pete Ruthenburg
date: 2005-07-01T02:42:15-00:00

Re: Compaq Presario for softsynth box. Good or bad?
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description: /> good; and God said, It just goes to show Me what the private sector can accomplish. With a lot of fool regulations this could have taken billions of years. 24 And the evening of the fifth day, which had been the roughest day yet, God said, Thank me it's Friday. And God made the weekend. Chapter 2 1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all in five days, and all less than six thousand years ago; and if thou believest it not, in a sling shalt thou find thy hindermost quarters 2 Likewise God took the dust of the ground, and the slime of the Sea and the scum of the earth and formed Man therefrom; and breathed the breath of life right in his face. And he became Free to Choose. 3 And God made a Marketplace eastward of Eden, in which the man was free to play. And this was the Free Play of the Marketplace. 4 And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow four trees: the Tree of Life, and the Liberty Tree, and the Pursuit of Happiness Tree, and the Tree of the Knowledge of Sex. 5 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, This is my Law, which is called the Law of Supply and Demand. Investeth thou in the trees of Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness, and thou shalt make for thyself a fortune. For what fruit thou eatest not, that thou mayest sell, and with the seeds thereof expand thy operations. 6 But the fruit of the tree of the Knowledge of Sex, thou mayest no eat; nor mayest thou invest therein, nor profit thereby nor expand its operations; for that is a mighty waste of seed. 7 And the man was exceeding glad. But he asked the LORD God: Who then shall labor in this Marketplace? For I am no management, being tall and well-formed and pale of hue? 8 And the LORD God said unto himself, Verily, this kid hath the potential which is Executive. 9 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field and every fowl of the air, and brought them unto Adam to labor for him. And they labored for peanuts. 10 Then Adam was again exceeding glad. But he…
creator: Tom Bruhl
date: 2005-07-01T04:32:02-00:00

Re: Compaq Presario for softsynth box. Good or bad?
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description: there. But he turned and spoke softly unto Adam and his wife Eve, saying, Knowest thou something? Mine only hope is this: That someday, ye have children who do unto you the way ye have done unto Me. -- Tony Hendra &amp; Sean Kelly <author><a href="http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/%7Ewerdna/autobio.html">Andrew Tong</author><a href="http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/%7Ewerdna/autobio.html">, <a href="http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/%7Ewerdna/">werdna@ugcs.caltech.edu <a href="http://info.cern.ch/hypertext/WWW/MarkUp/MarkUp.html">HTML Created: March 29, 1994 rick wrote: <blockquote cite="midl97bd1l0kvm5lb0rt53r23v0t4m3l59p1k@4ax.com" type="cite"> with all the vitriolic comments from both sides of an argument, is it any wonder we all will eventually resort to extreme measures. i'll be the first to publicly admit that i would if given the chance, shoot any christian / muslim, (or what ever religion they are) who will threaten me because they'll never be satisfied that i have not met their idea of the righteousness. really, is it just me, or are criminals, criminals...unless in their mind their interpretation of god is on their side is the right one to have? you know, god is a great moral idea, that is until you throw people into the equation...then it sucks because we suck...always have, always will. as an ex carpenter i still have access to wood, nails and other stuff...go for it. ;o) --------------000202090307070204020708--.....uh, didn't you guys bomb the be-jeeziz out of the Garden of Eden recently? 8 ) justcron wrote: >We've eaten from the Tree of Knowledge and now we're using the Knowledge to >create Nuclear Weapons and inject human stem cells into monkeys. It will >be no surprise when we get kicked out of our Garden of Eden by God or >Nature. > > > >News flash... already kicked out. "justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compound> wrote in message news:42d6eab0@linux... > We've eaten from the Tree of Knowledge and now we're using the Knowledge > to create Nuclear Weapons and inject …
creator: Tony Benson
date: 2005-07-01T15:36:01-00:00

Re: Compaq Presario for softsynth box. Good or bad?
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description: oreign Invaders! Fuck me, how dumb do you have to be not to get this not-to-fucking-subtle point? If the shoe were on the other foot you would react no differently. One of you nazis, don't remember who, said in another thread that they thought it was "them" who were doing the bombing, not "us". Just as a reminder, the US has been bombing Iraq into a god-forsaken moonscape since '89. Over 500,000 children have died since then as a direct consequence of US military, oh-so-compassionate, action. And please knock it off with the old "well they bombed NYC so we're retaliating." chestnut. If you take the time to read the statements of Bin Laden you will see that he's not a nut at all. The reasons he gives for his actions are clearly backed up by all objective histories of the conflict in this region, A conflict that does not, as someone here falsely assumed, go back millenia. PS, it wasn't Iraq that did the bombing, Saddam had nothing to do with it. The Arabs and the Jews were living peacefully side-by-side well into the 20th century. This is fully backed up by historians, check it for yourself. It wasn't untill the US decided to create a client state in '48 that trouble began. Hey, stoopid, how would you feel if China decided it was going to give Native Americans an offical homeland and they decided to hack off a piece of New York or California and kick the citizens out, putting the Natives in charge of the state and relocating you "terrorists" to camps in outlying regions. It's pretty fucking obvious why the Palistinians are upset. And as for Iraq, only the dumbest of the dumb are still parroting the solidly discredited lies the were conjured up by the US gov't to justify this invasion. The historical fact is that the US and it's allies have been meddling in this region since the 1800's in order to capture the oil supplies. See where I'm going with this yet? If you substiute terms you'll see quite clearly that they can do no differently, just as you would do no differen…
creator: Tom Bruhl
date: 2005-07-01T15:38:59-00:00

Re: Compaq Presario for softsynth box. Good or bad?
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description: /> arrived at if both sides want peace more than war. OK, now this is the part where you rebut &amp; tell me what a narrow-minded American I am, and how wrong my opinion is because you're Eurosuperior to me and have a much better world view because you read about cowboys &amp; rodeos in Oklahoma &amp; the drug problems in Miami in Der Spiegel &amp; had a US soldier live next door to you &amp; he was a dick, and of course, all Americans are exactly like he was. BTW, the Israeli thing is VERY different than the situation we face with radical Islam... they do NOT want peace more than war, they only want to kill all the "infidels" and sing praise &amp; glory to their blood-soaked god Allah, while trying to knock the rest of the world back into the 12th century, economically, societally, and politically. So, knowing this, and seeing what they've done beginning on 9/11 and continuing to this day, I think a slightly "different" approach is what's called for. Neil --------------040208050705000808030808--as far as I can understand but I'm seeing Dejj have learned > to do some observations from them about the "new" Americans, that's just > seems to be German, French, Scandinavian etc. etc. Erling, The *only* reason tht I posted all this stuff was that I was trying to make two points that I don't think I made. The first one was to try to give some small background of my life that was relative to the idea that I had a lot invested in my hopes of how I thought the world could be and so did these folks from Europe and all over the world really, though most of them were from Europe and the US. The second point was that I was absolutely floored when these things were being observed and shown to me by people who were about as familiar with Europeans and Americans as beings from another planet. I didn't like hearing this. It certainly didn't fit my picture of how the world should be and what is really scary about it it that no one but the Indians even recognized what was going on. I'…
creator: rick
date: 2005-07-01T18:57:44-00:00

Re: Compaq Presario for softsynth box. Good or bad?
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description: point of view, israel is the aggressor > > that took their land. they dont have the military power, > > so they go the terror route. being the frakkingeuropacifistidiotdude that > > i am, i despise that > > just as much, so id prefer it if you dont switch between > > calling me a blind pacifist one moment and then a guy > > that doesnt criticize palaestina (and thus somewhat supports the use of > > terror), > > whatever fits the best. > > > > from their point of view, theyre actually doing exactly > > the same thing - use brute force. they dont have planes, > > so they use suicide bombers. if you were on their side, > > its what you would recommend. and if the enemy threatened to > > use more power, youd recommend that the enemy gets a > > demonstration of your force. > > > > somewhere in there lies a fundamental, unsolvable problem. > > throw in a ticking clock (islamic countries getting the bomb > > sooner or later, whether you want it or not), > > and look again at the one guy that at the very least came > > close to peace down there - ooooh it was that deescalation > > dude. what a coincidence. > > > > im not saying its the ultimate solution. i find pretending > > to have absolute solutions (a very popular practice here, > > or so it seems) rather silly. im trying to have a civiliced > > discussion about the possible different paths to a solution, > > if there is one at all. i can ackownledge and talk about > > both approaches, you seem to struggle with that part > > and fall back into europe-is-so-whatever rants, which, > > btw, are no better than george-bush-is-pure-evil bullshit. > > its kindergarden. no thanks. > > > > > > > >>And what could you possibly dislike about the present Israeli > >>leadership? Draggin settlers out by the scruff of the neck, > >>responding to the worst terrorism with measured and rational > >>responses, and showing great restraint. > > > > > > yeah, as i said, they went back to 0, so i completely > > agree with you. > > > > > > > >>…
creator: AlexPlasko
date: 2005-07-01T19:26:34-00:00

Re: Compaq Presario for softsynth box. Good or bad?
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description: lapse.mpg > > >I really appreciate everyone talking about this... >First, let me say that, you acting superior while posting a pack of lies is bad enough, but, your calling people names is unacceptable. "Jef Knight" <"Jef Knight"> wrote: >The idea that you should keep killing "them" before they kill you is is >pretty sociopathic I think. Thanks for the analysis. Sure it isn't bipolar, or perhaps paranoid schizophrenic, or maybe just ADD? Them is the enemy, not the shopkeepers. The suicide bombers, the foreign terrorists, the state sponsors of terrorism. They are knowable, and they are killable. >Please remember a few important things about >the "war". Oh, this will be good. I know it will be real informed with "so" "many" "ironic" "quotes".... >Let's start with "them". The dehumanizing of others is an important >diagnostic point in the evalutation of pathological personality >disorders. Underlying this is the idea that one is not harming a >"person" but a "thing" or "non-person". It allows the ego to remain >intact while performing otherwise unthinkable actions. You obviously do not know any soldiers. Despite understanding that the ghouls must be killed, and understanding that they are indeed, ghouls, our soldiers pay a terrible price for doing the unthinkable, precisely because they are not able to completely depersonalize them. Only to have you call them pathological... Pathetic. And of course, the actions of the ghouls are not pathogical in Jef-land at all, They are understandable, maybe even noble! Maybe they are even like the minutmen! >But who are "them"?. For the most part they are normal, everyday >famillies like yours and mine. Shop keepers, TV reparimen, gas station >attendants, secretaries....who only want to live freely, in peace, BWAA HAHH AHHA HHHHAAAA! Oh that's good. Do you screenwrite for Michael Moore? They are foreigners who come into places like Fallujah and kill anyone who looks like they may desire freedom, take over the neighborhood, and rule …
creator: Chris Ludwig
date: 2005-07-02T13:38:44-00:00

Re: Compaq Presario for softsynth box. Good or bad?
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description: m the oven. If not, then I'll might put it on the table and take a bite. Where did this story originate? Regards, DJ "justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compound> wrote in message news:42d804a6@linux... > referring to the gratuitous partisan comments... > > "Mr Simplicity" <animix_spamless_@animas.net> wrote in message > news:42d80477@linux... > > I'm assuming you are referring to my post as being typical of something. > > Perhaps you consider the reason for it as being a typical reaction to a > > typical spin. > > > > > > "justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compound> wrote in message > > news:42d803a0$1@linux... > >> > >> "Mr Simplicity" <animix_spamless_@animas.net> wrote in message > >> news:42d80363@linux... > >> > I've witnessed building demolitions. That does look familiar, but > >> > you're > >> > just seeing one side of the very top floors. It's a pretty big stretch > > to > >> > think that what this is showing is caused by any particular means of > >> > structural failure. It's obviously a fialure. I didn't see this thing > > and > >> > hadn't heard of Dan Rather postulating this as a theory, but knowing > >> > the > >> > *Rather agenda*, it would not surprise me. I'm surprised CBS didn't > >> > have > >> > Michael Moore as co-anchor. > >> > >> heh heh... so typical. > >> > >> > "justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compound> wrote in message > >> > news:42d7fe1e$1@linux... > >> >> Anyway, I appreciate you following up on the conversation. > >> >> > >> >> I dont think there was pods on the planes, or bombs or remote control > > or > >> > any > >> >> of that crap. I just think theres some type of coverup and the only > >> >> smoking gun is WTC7, and the insider trading. > >> >> > >> >> Here's a better video of it: > >> >> http://www.911research.com/wtc/evidence/videos/docs/wtc7_col lapse2.mpg > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Who knows, maybe I'm wrong, but I dont really see too much structural > >> > damage > >> >> to the facade. > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > >…
creator: Chris Ludwig
date: 2005-07-02T13:39:14-00:00

Re: Compaq Presario for softsynth box. Good or bad?
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description: a >terrorist incident. FEMA's report states that the cause of building's >collapse was fires. Presumably FEMA and the insurance company would be >interested in knowing if the building was instead demolished by the FDNY. >Moreover, the logistics of rigging a skyscraper for demolition in the space >of a few hours would be daunting to say the least, particularly given that >demolition teams would have to work around fires and smoke. > >A third explanation is less obvious but makes sense of the non-sequiturs in >the above explanations: perhaps Silverstein's statement was calculated to >confuse the issue of what actually happened to Building 7. By suggesting >that it was demolished by the FDNY as a safety measure, it provides an >alternative to the only logical explanation -- that it was rigged for >demolition before the attack. The absurdity of the FDNY implementing a plan >to "pull" Building 7 on the afternoon of 9/11/01 will escape most people, >who neither grasp the technical complexity of engineering the controlled >demolition of a skyscraper, nor its contradiction with FEMA's account of the >collapse, nor the thorough illlegality of such an operation. Thus the idea >that officials decided to "pull" Building 7 after the attack serves as a >distraction from the inescapable logic that the building's demolition was >planned in advance of the attack, and was therefore part of an inside job to >destroy the entire WTC complex. > >"justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compound> wrote in message news:42d809cb$1@linux... > It's typical to shoot the messenger when they dont agree with you. btw... sorry I meant that 'you' as plural, in general... not specifically to u deej."DC" <dcicchetti@urs2.net> wrote in message news:42d80a04$1@linux... > > All of this is addressed in the PM article. Read it. I have read it and it says nothing about Silverstein's admission to pulling the building... Or am I missing something? I know that what I just posted did start to expand into other conspi…
creator: erlilo
date: 2005-07-02T16:00:52-00:00

Re: Compaq Presario for softsynth box. Good or bad?
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creator: rick
date: 2005-07-03T09:17:44-00:00