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M-Audio follow up question - MTC
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description: when importing files across two cards to get that right. Do I have to nudge all the tracks on one of the cards until I think it's right? Something else? I looked at the windows system resources during playback...about 9 percent usage on the processor, 30% on the memory, and I'm using a 2nd/record drive so don't know yet what that looks like. I'll see what happens when I load up some vst & direct-x. Anyway, off and running. I'll see what comes up as I go and continue reading all the posts and information. I don't want to list anything under the heading of v3.01 as I'm not sure just yet as to the nature of any issues. Most will probably be me until I get a few hours in. On that note I'll jump in and start doing some work...finally!!!Yup, looks like this: http://www.kerrygalloway.com/WikiPARIS/wikka.php?wakka=Error OneOne Use an eraser to
creator: Don Nafe
date: 2008-12-02T22:45:27-00:00

Re: M-Audio follow up question - MTC
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description: carefully clean the gold contacts that seat the card in the motherboard (electrical contact cleaning spray in the actual motherboard slot is useful too). Make certain everything's making solid electrical connection and then reinstall PARIS software to eliminate that as a possibility. before writing off the EDS card. In the event it's fried (which is not always the case with 1/1, that's often installation related) you can usually get a new one for $100 - $150 in the classifieds and get back up and running fairly quick. Record those additional error codes too: there's a collection of them and their meanings on the Wiki - http://www.kerrygalloway.com/WikiPARIS/wikka.php?wakka=BugsT roubleshooting - and they might have useful information. senseart wrote on Thu, 07 January 2016 05:20 IT'S WORKING IN NEWER SYSTEM RUNNING WINDOWS 8.1! THANK YOU EVERYONE!!!! Great news! Congrats! senseart wrote on Thu, 07 January 2016 05:20 Here's some things... I ended up getting Mike's drivers but when I installed the system I immediately swapped the .exe with v3.01. Was that necessary in 64 bit any more and does 3.01 have issues 3.o doesn't? Should I have been able to keep the v3.0 and would it have run? Should I revert back? I wouldn't know the difference but had a couple quirks
creator: Tom Bruhl
date: 2008-12-02T22:50:24-00:00

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description: Yep, you can (and IMO should) keep 3.0 as well. 3.01 is brand spanking new to us and we're just starting to document both improvements and quirks here. Your input most definitely welcome! senseart wrote on Thu, 07 January 2016 05:20 When I shut down Paris it doesn't always shutdown in the background and I have to manually do it through task manager in order to restart it. That's weird, I just ran into that same thing on 3.0 over the last few weeks and can't recall this being a documented bug even after 15 years (with the old Chris Thoman drivers, yes - with Mike's drivers, no). I uninstalled a faulty 8i card and installed a couple of new ones and discovered to my surprise that the problem had somehow resolved itself. Related? Coincidence? Unknown. But it's definitely solvable (by definition, since something just solved it). senseart wrote on Thu, 07 January 2016 05:20 One thing I did do was to play back the same track on both cards...there is a little comb filter/smear to the sound so they are slightly off in timing, but didn't vary. What would someone suggest when importing files across two cards to get that right. Do I have to nudge all the tracks on one of
creator: EK Sound
date: 2008-12-02T22:53:55-00:00

Re: M-Audio follow up question - MTC
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description: the cards until I think it's right? Something else? You'll want to take a look at this, which documents different types of PARIS latencies (all small but some large enough to comb filter). When you've got through that, this is also important reading if you're using plugins.I definitely kept 3.0 Don't think I have a bad card but it's been sitting for years...maybe I'll reseat everything (then I'll have all kinds of issues!) I can't express enough how grateful I am for this forum and all the users' contributions and efforts to keep this alive, but most importantly the personal help I've received from everyone! At some point I hope I can begin contributing...so off I go as I have a lot of reading and experimenting to do. I'll spend some time with it and see what I discover...it's great to be back in the saddle! You all have a great day! Gary So I added a second card and a second Mec Now I have a mec with 16 I/o and 2 adat cards And another mec with an input and adat card for future use with Kyma I set it up and it's highly disappointing that the two systems can't talk to one another. It's almost like having two computers with nothing but a sync cable connected. what do people with outboard reverb do since they can only use it on one submix? How do people process from one submix to another live? Analog inputs? Smh A different idea is to just run PARIS ASIO with Ableton, you'll be using the MEC and its I/O straight in Ableton. Contact Mike, he may let you beta test the new ASIO, he's gotten it down to 64 samples. I run it in Ableton 9 with PUSH, without any real issues. I usually run it with Studio One and PUSH, via PXT General. Kerry, I must say I appreciate all the help you give everyone around hereDidn't work for me when I tried it. But maybe it was an operator issue Well thanks KG for your help! I cleaned the contacts on the EDS card anyway and reinstalled the software and it worked! I can't tell you how thankful I am for this site! I have another question I'm going …
creator: Don Nafe
date: 2008-12-02T23:01:03-00:00

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description: ions that I could use some guidance in getting resolved. I've been sitting on a MEC expansion module for a while and never used it because I was concerned about generating a problem with no Emu support. Now that I know about this site, I would like to connect it. Anyone have any tips on what I should and shouldn't do to get it plugged in and operating? Also, most of my projects thus far did not required very many tracks. Now I'm getting ready to start some major projects that will require more tracks. Following the directions along with trial and error, I have not been able to get the submixes to work. So, I need more than 16 tracks but haven't been able to get additional submixes to play. Again, any tips out there on getting this resolved? Probably an easy one but I'm stuck!Hi again. Great that you are up and running again. Just a note about the error 1/1. Computer cases can be rather flimsy, and some are built to low tolerances. The EDS card (with daughterboard) is a a large and heavy beast. Sometimes, the EDS card partially works its way out of the PCI slot with time and vibration, particularly when the system is moved. Ususally, just reseating the EDS is sufficient to fix the error 1/1. Make sure it is fully home in the socket, by pushing firmly downward. If there seems to be a tendency for the card to slightly lift out of the PCI socket at the back end,(a common occurrence), then a little creative bending of the EDS backplate can fix the problem. I personally have had to file the screw notch on a couple of my EDS's to allow the card to sit fully seated, once screwed in. It depends on the construction of the case. (I've had to do this, even with a premium Antec case in the past.) Hope this sheds some light on what you experienced. Kim Thanks Kim! The contacts didn't appear dirty but I cleaned them anyway. I checked the card prior to my post and it was properly seated. It's also very hard to move so it doesn't shift at all. My system can be very unreliable at tim…
creator: Don Nafe
date: 2008-12-02T23:01:46-00:00

Re: M-Audio follow up question - MTC
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description: ment is handled. Sometimes it worked after moving and sometimes it didn't. I've even moved it from one room to another and sometimes it still won't work. Hey I just posted a question about submixes and the MEC expansion module. Do you know anything about either of those? Hey Kerry I just noticed this thread. Where are you attending for the education that you referenced?Heya Ray! This is my fifth kick at the academic can, after studying performance in bass at Vancouver Community College, Capilano University and the Banff Center at different life stages. I had 20 years off then felt the urge for some "freshen up" so I'm back at VCC, this time working on finishing a BMus in composition. I'm considering charging on to a Master's at Simon Fraser University after. Yeah, I'm one of the old geezers there now, but a friend of mine once told another friend (a wise old guru of the drums) - "I wish I could go back to school for my Master's but by the time I got it I'd be XX years old...". The old guru said "how old will you be by then if you don't?". Cracked me up, but perfectly true - I'm going to get to XX years old anyway, so I might as well get there with it rather than without it; might as well chalk some things off the bucket list en route. Any decent music school gives you the most essential ingredients: permission (more than that, a mandate) to take the time off to re-immerse yourself in music, and a concentrated dose of the company of people who are really enthusiastic about digging deeply into it. Will The Weirdo wrote on Sat, 09 January 2016 09:53 Kerry, I must say I appreciate all the help you give everyone around here Aw, thanks Will - since whatever I know, and everything I put on the Wiki, I got from folks doing the same either for me or for others, it seems right to pass that along when I can. Big ups to all our contributors here!Heya Ray - first, a few questions about your setup so we can give a bit more focused advice. A simple setup should "just work" so if i…
creator: EK Sound
date: 2008-12-02T23:19:38-00:00

Re: M-Audio follow up question - MTC
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description: uot; (that submix is run "live" through an EDS card, so everything should be audible) - "native", meaning it's running on the CPU like most other DAWs nowadays - no "PARIS mojo" but should just work - "virtual" (meaning you will only hear the current contents after you hit "update" - it's really just a stereo render of whatever's in that submix). This could cause you to not hear audio (or - if you've updated the submix previously - to not hear any changes you make until you update it again) All three types of submixes should play back through the audio outs of your MEC. Basically you use "card" sub mixes until you run out of tracks, and after that choose one of the other two types. _____ Workflow - you might consider for example putting groups of tracks that you'll work on all at once (submixed vocals; drums) on their own sub mixes, rendering them and leaving them alone while you work on other stuff, using the Master Mixer to adjust their level against the main track, and switching that submix over to "card" when you want to work on it in detail. - if you need to have all the tracks "live" at once (say your workflow needs you to be tweaking individual levels of lots of tracks all the time) then the "native (CPU)" sub mixes might work best. Watch your levels on this type of submix - this is NOT the same as a "card" submix, which is amazingly forgiving of "going into the red". You do not want to see any red lights on the channel strips, this will give you digital clipping instead of PARIS' nice "analog squish". But handy in a pinch, particularly for "clean" tracks. - if neither of these works and you absolutely need more "card" submixes, EDS cards are dirt cheap, and they're all you need (you wouldn't for example need a second MEC, the audio from all submixes is internally mixed and appears at the first MEC's outputs anyway). Each one - to a total of 8 (or until you max out the PCI slots on your motherboard, at which point you have to buy an expansion chassis) gives 1…
creator: Don Nafe
date: 2008-12-02T23:26:59-00:00

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description: hat's the symptom of the submix not working? Hit "G" then hit "play" - are you seeing audio in the meters, but not hearing it? Or not seeing the expected audio in the meters for that submix? It has been a while since I tried it (since it wasn't working for a while) so I don't recall the details exactly but I was following the manual and couldn't get submix audio. I'll try assigning it as you suggested and see what happens. I guess I'll try the "card" submix but I have not heard of these three options. I guess I'm a bit lost though. Doesn't PARIS come with 128 tracks right out of the box - meaning with one MEC, one C16 and 1 EDS?Great - my strongest recommendation right now, and IMHO your best PARIS investment bar none at the moment, is to spend $50 and download Mike Audet's much newer drivers which superseded Chris' years ago; they even have a simplified installer which makes getting up and running a breeze. Chris' drivers were a brilliant step forward for the platform in the day but we're a decade past that in refinements and stability now. They are much more modern with significant bug fixes and are in active development (Mike is probably refining them right now as we speak, he's always tweaking the drivers in response to user feedback). But most importantly you'll get direct and active tech support - that thing we couldn't have dreamed of for ages after PARIS' discontinuation. Not that guys like Mike won't help you on the old drivers anyway! The community always wants to get folks up and running, no matter their system or drivers - but the new ones require far less intervention to "just work" (for example, the old system of having to do complex things to lock the driver to a core is long gone, as are a number of challenging bugs).I'd heard about people using the PowerCore system but I don't have any direct experience myself - anyone out there know anything about it? Satisfactory performance? Here's some details I found on PowerCore's latency. . Here's what our Wi…
creator: TC
date: 2008-12-02T23:40:15-00:00

Re: M-Audio follow up question - MTC
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description: because the solution with expansionschassis haven't run very well. But at this point i am using the good old P4 with 5 PCI,now. THX to good Paris community ! Mike for your drivers, you still keep on roling Paris yeahh.. Dan There were issues with PCI bridge chips on older Intel boards. I'm not sure which series it was or if it affected PARIS. I wonder if it was those same bridge chips that caused problems with your expansion chassis. I've had no issues with My Virtua via chassis and a z97a motherboard. Keep us posted! Mike @ Mike, Z97 boards haven't any 33Mhz Pci slots, thats right ? DanMine has two! https://www.asus.com/ca-en/Motherboards/Z97A/ I bought this over a year ago. They may have a newer version. This looks like a slightly updated version: https://www.asus.com/ca-en/Motherboards/Z97AUSB_31/ I hope this helps. MikeI'm using an Asus z97a, and it's been great. It has two PCI slots, but it works with an expansion chassis, too. https://www.asus.com/ca-en/Motherboards/Z97A/ I hope this helps. MikeHi All, I don't know if you heard but, Microsoft is stopping Windows 7 support for Skylake systems on July 17th 2017. My feeling is that if Microsoft is willing to kick it's Enterprise customers where it hurts to force Windows 10 on everyone, there isn't much we can do that they are likely to care about. They just bit the hand that feeds them. Let's hope the Enterprise customers bite back. I was speaking with a programmer friend, someone I really respect, about all this, and he made the point that even if Microsoft hired back all of their software testers, they couldn't come close to catching as many bugs as the telemetry is going to catch. I'd rather a slightly buggy system and keep my privacy, but it is something to think about. I just bought a copy of Windows 10 Education, which allows disabling telemetry, and PARIS and the new ASIO driver are working perfectly so far. I have more testing to do, but so far so good. I'm in the camp of PARIS users that like to stay on …
creator: Don Nafe
date: 2008-12-02T23:49:24-00:00

Re: M-Audio follow up question - MTC
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description: ng the PSCL would make it easier to port it to a new OS. All the best, Mike Awesome Work...as always!Sorry for putting you on the spot Mike, lol. Your updates are inspiring to many of us and your work is one of the reasons I'm rebuilding my PARIS rig, on it's own computer.... I'm searching for parts, planning a PARIS re-evolution in my setup.I had 2 hard drives go out on me a few months back, power surge. I just realized everything PARIS I've collected over the past 16 years is lost. All my skins, videos, efx, manuals, presets, tips, cfg, everything. I did not notice until today, I was planning to set up a dedicated PARIS computer again. Argh, this sucks! All I have is PARIS 3.0 x64 installer exe. Can anybody email or dropbox me anything PARIS related to: willtheweirdo@gmail.com I'm on the PARIS wiki now, getting what files I can, any help is appreciated. FWIW, I don't need anything UAD card related. Hi all. I remember a while ago people were running Cubase on a separate machine, using ADAT sync to keep the two boxes locked. Up until recently, I have been using a Frontier Dakota card on a WINXP machine with no problems. I have built a newer PC to run Cubase, under WIN7 64bit. I had problems getting the Dakota running on the new machine. I purchased an RME 9652 quite cheaply, and the drivers installed fine. Everything is working, except that When Paris is stopped, the outgoing sync causes Cubase to hover around the stop point, but play and stop keep toggling very rapidly. If there is a midi note at the point where Cubase stopped, it keeps endlessly triggering that note continuously, and very rapidly. This is my first experience with RME stuff. ave I missed something? Is there a hidden command or config
creator: Don Nafe
date: 2008-12-02T23:54:51-00:00

Re: M-Audio follow up question - MTC
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description: setting that I have overlooked? Any insight would be appreciated. Cheers, KimI have the greatest respect and admiration for you and the work you have done for Paris Mike Not too many people would take on such an endeavor You are the man!I agree, people talk about saving the planet all the time. Your actions have directly lead to the planet being less polluted, as many PARIS users did not trash their systems when ID or CL stopped support a decade ago. In a small way Mike, respectfully, you are an actual hero.Hi Will, I'm glad that I've made a contribution, but I'm definitely not an environmental hero, as much as I would like to be. I've been working on the ASIO driver for the last six months from my 2008 Dodge Caravan while my son has his naps. I have to idle the engine the whole time, partly to keep from freezing (this is Canadian winter) but mostly because if I turn off the car, my son wakes up. The car is the only way I can get him to sleep. I am completely sick of buying things only to throw them out. But to some degree, I keep doing it. To throw out PARIS hardware takes things too far. Keep in mind that I was burnt by Digidesign on the Session 8, and it wasn't going to happen twice if I could help it. I bought an Energy Star home, but rather than being an environmental triumph, it left me with no respect at all for the Energy Star program. You should feel the draft that comes through my 2013 Energy Star windows. Natural Resources Canada wouldn't even come out to check them, much less do anything about it. I have a compost bin, but I don't use it in the winter because it's too cold out. I go outside as little as possible in the winter. I do recycle as much as I can. I would love to be an environmental hero, and I hope that with the PARIS work, I've helped make up a little for the rest of my life! All the best, Mike Hi Kim - no particular insights except to say that ADAT sync between PARIS and a 9652 was running rock solid on my system, although my own system was …
creator: EK Sound
date: 2008-12-02T23:56:25-00:00

Re: M-Audio follow up question - MTC
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description: from start to finish, with analogue tape/console like results, putting a fat ass smile on my face. Over time I will attempt to grab a couple of PCIe PTHD cards and that 4 slot external PCI board for PARIS, and run everything in one computer, with that workflow. FWIW, I'm also planning to run the i7 computer on a 55 inch 4K screen with a IR touch overlay, sometime over the next 2 years. Hi All, I just watched the video demo for the Steven Slate Virtual Mic Pro Collection, and while I wasn't that impressed with the sound of the plugin (as far as I could tell, they mostly just increased the volume), the video gave me an idea. Maybe you guys are all doing this already, but it was a new idea to me. In the video, he takes a track, copies it, and then distorts it using his plugin. He uses EQ to shape the sound of the distortion, and then blends it under the original. I just tried this with the stock PARIS EQ on an acoustic guitar track. I copied the track, used the EQ to pull down a bit of the high end and a bit of the very low end (below 40 HZ), and pushed the trim to plus 15 dB. I then mixed it under the original track. The effect is amazing! It's so full. I found that putting a high pass filter on set at 40 HZ made the distortion sound better to me. I'd heard of parallel compression before, but not parallel eq/distortion. Has anyone else tried this? Cheers! Mike I've not tried that in Paris, but it's an old trick for bassists - you want distortion or other effects on your signal but you don't want all your tone sucked out, so you distort a copy of the signal and blend it in to the dry. Sonic Farm's new bass amp which will be hitting the streets in about a month (I have S/N #0001 reserved ) has both distortion and a wet/dry blend built in. Never thought of trying it on guitars, must check it out!Hi Kerry, Congrats on the amp! I think this could be a very powerful tool for getting saturation sounds in PARIS. I'm also pretty excited that it's possible to get different kind…
creator: Don Nafe
date: 2008-12-03T00:01:01-00:00

Re: M-Audio follow up question - MTC
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description: me years back, coder Matthias Kronlachner has now built libsndfile *export* capabilities into the wrapper. You'll find it, free of charge (donationware), over here at Matthias' site, and I'll link it from the "Useful Third Party Software" page as well. [If you're going to use this software, please do send Matthias a donation here (right side of page, you'll see the link)!] Matthias' updates to the wrapper (which as you will recall allows Reaper to read PARIS' .paf audio files directly as a native format as if they were e.g. .wav files) now allows Reaper to *write* .paf files as well. Just drop your PAFs into Reaper, edit/tune/process however you like, render them out and import them directly in PARIS once again. [Why is working with .paf format important when PARIS can work with .wav files? Because .paf is the only 24-bit file format PARIS fully supports. And you never need to worry about stripping PAF files before flying them back into PARIS like we often have to with WAV files!] You can now take, say, eight tracks of drums tracked in PARIS as 24 bit .pafs, fly them directly into Reaper, edit them using Reaper's cutting edge tools, render them in place, check they have the same names as the original - and PARIS should simply accept them in place of those originals, all without the tiresome mess of creating intermediary wav files. This will certainly be a game changer for workflow over here! Installation (Win/Mac OSX) is simple - just follow the included instructions. Let Matthias know via his website if you find any bugs. [EDIT: The default "consolidate/render tracks" settings in Reaper didn't give me working results, but the following settings worked perfectly: Consolidate to: libsndfile (.au .avr .caf.... etc) Format: .paf (PAF (Ensoniq PARIS) ) Encoding: signed 24 bit PCM Byte Order: Little-Endian (Intel Byte Order) By the way, Reaper also writes "-consolidated" at the ends of all consolidated (i.e. exported) tracks and with the addition of that text, file names…
creator: EK Sound
date: 2008-12-03T00:02:21-00:00

Re: M-Audio follow up question - MTC
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description: reinstall the extension; not a big deal, but if after an update you open a previously working Reaper song and it says "unrecognized file types", just click the installer to reinstall the extension - it takes about three seconds over here]YESSSSSSSSSSSS! Thanks for the heads up Kerry, I go back and forth between the PARIS and Reaper all the time, this will speed that up big time.As of yesterday, Reaper now fully supports .paf read/write (see sticky)!This is incredible exciting!! We're going to be able to use Reaper as an ASIO host and import/export 24 audio files from the PARIS app. Too cool! MikeSelf explanatory question. Anyone?? Gonna try three mecs without an external word clock generator. Apparently it has been done successfully. Cheers, KimHi Guys, I have a question and an update. My question: does anyone know how accurate the Centrance ASIO latency utility is? I just ran it on the PARIS ASIO driver, and it reported 1.45 ms round trip latency. Is this in addition to the 1.45 ms (times two) from the buffers? I've included a screen shot. I hope this is true! My update: I'm working on OSC support for the C16. I've made further improvements on efficiency since getting the main timing loop driven by the IRQ on the EDS card. I'm down to 3.5% CPU usage with dozens of tracks at 64 sample buffers. OSC is going to be harder than MIDI because I have to manually map every single control. But, I'm on it. I'm targeting Reaper. I've also got the ASIO driver loading as Windows MIDI driver to pass data for the C16. I'm not sure if it will just pass simple MIDI control messages or something more. I'm leaning towards some kind or partial HUI compatibility so it can be used in Pro Tools 10. All the best! MikeLooking good Mike, I can't wait for the finished product, as always great work.Hey - are there any PARIS Mac OS9 users here? There have been several revisions to libsndfile, the library that virtually all modern PC, Linux and Mac OSX apps use to support PAF, and some of them s…
creator: EK Sound
date: 2008-12-03T00:04:19-00:00

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description: ds DanHi All, I just sent the first OSC messages from the C16! The faders are working going from the c16 to Reaper. The next step is getting updates back from Reaper and turning on the up and down LEDs. If anyone has any requests for how to map the many buttons and knobs on the C16 to Reaper, I could use the help. For example, what should I do with the Monitor Level knob? There is no equivalent in Reaper that I know of. I'm trying to keep the C16 working in Reaper the same way it does in PARIS. For example, I'm working on having the Channel control knobs and buttons work the same way. I'm also coding to have the mute buttons become solo buttons when the solo button is pressed. But, what do I do with the data, shuttle, and jog buttons? There are a whole bunch that I'm unsure of. All the best! Mike Yikes - we used to guesstimate this kind of cable work at 15 min/end (you can obviously go much faster but this "builds in" all the other necessary stuff like cable dressing). That's 50 hours of work, or a long week, working full time - make sure you take lots of breaks to stretch!Oh man! How's OSC working for you, is it turning out to be useful? The jog shuttle wheel would be awesome mapped to similar jog/scrub functionality in Reaper and there are assignable actions for it but it's pre-mapped to something called MultiRotate which I can't find any documentation on. Any idea what that is? you say it !!!!Hi Kerry, It's working well. I've now got Reaper sending back messages and turning on the C16 arrow lights. I have a lot of work to do yet, but the basic building blocks are there. I'm able to make very slight adjustments to the fader positions. The full 1024 values are definitely being sent. The only down side is that it is a lot harder to work with than MIDI. I have to parse a bunch of strings in the callback. But, it's going to work. All the best! Mike So is this going to be working with reaper with paris in the background? What's the timeline more or less? It sounds grea…
creator: Don Nafe
date: 2008-12-03T00:04:35-00:00

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description: ut, it's going to work. All the best! Mike There you go again Mike, working out another way to keep PARIS hardware out of the landfills. Reaper running the Paris hardware sounds amazing. Is it feasible to eventually have the DSP effects work in reaper? Btw If we're taking request for c16 functions, a mono button and monitor Switcher would be really useful.Once the buttons output MIDI, retasking them via a script in Reaper should be trivial; Reaper has amazing scripting functionality so the things you're asking for should be pretty easy to execute, although there may be inevitable lag before someone writes the scripts for Reaper that will take advantage of the "extras". Mike - how many of the buttons or knobs on a C16 will output usable MIDI values? Will the controller numbers be fixed or assignable? None of those would be a deal-breaker (MIDIPipe or the PC equivalent will be happy to do any necessary controller value translation), just curious. Hi N0Samples and Kerry, N0Samples: I don't see a mono option in the default OSC document, unfortunately. How exactly does the "monitor Switcher" work in reaper? I haven't seen it yet. I will have the record enable buttons mapped to the record buttons in Reaper. Kerry: I'm not sure how I'm going to do the midi side yet. But, I'm going to send an OSC message for every button on the C16. It's my understanding that one can map these to commands in Reaper via the "learn actions" dialog. Reaper has the ability to map OSC messages to a subset of these options via a config file. I'm writing one of those files as I go. A bunch of the buttons on the C16 don't seem to have a clearly corresponding option in Reaper. I could really use some help with this. For example, if we could get a set of suggestions like "map the dim button on the C16 to the mono button on the master fader in Reaper," I can look into whether it's possible in the OSC config file options. Sadly, there is no "mono" option of any kind in the default OSC config file. Here…
creator: Don Nafe
date: 2008-12-03T00:07:14-00:00

Re: M-Audio follow up question - MTC
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description: - GA-P55-UD3L with i7 CPU. It has 4PCI and 3PCIe slots that I was using as a 3 EDS card system under win 7. I switched PCs last year and have this combo for sale if interested. Thanks RobertThanks so much for your hospitality, Ted! It was great to see you guys. All the best, MikeHi Forum, i cannot reach the forum right now. Someone has got the same issue ?Nice to put faces to the names, finally! Cheers, guys. Kim W.Hi Everyone, I have a few updates and a Ardour/Mixbus question: 1) I just got Pro Tool 10 to start Playback with the C16 using HUI emulation. Too cool! There's lots to do, but it's coming along fast. 2) Ardour (and thus Mixbus) is undergoing a major re-write of its OSC subsystem. I've been working on supporting its new OSC subsystem, which will be part of Ardour 5 and Harrison MixBus 4. But, it turns out that the way the new Ardour OSC subsystem is being implemented is not compatible with the OSC library I'm using for the ASIO driver. I'm not sure how much work will be involved in sorting this out. Is anyone planning on using this driver with MixBus or Ardour? 3) The Reaper OSC stuff is 99% done. I think I just have to sort out the "Dim" button. I've got multiple C16 support working and two banks. If you have two C16s, they appear as a 32 channel controller to reaper. Pressing the right arrow on the C16 moves them up to channels 33 - 64. The left arrow takes them back to 1-32. It should work this way with as many C16s as you have cards. All the best! Mike Hi Everyone, I've been looking into log-in problems that some people have been having. I'm able to reproduce the problem on Chrome, but Firefox and IE seems to work fine. I can't find anything about this in the FudForums site or the forum logs, so i don't have much to go on right now. For now, we may just have to avoid Chrome until we can sort this out. All the best, MikeI have used FF and got some loginproblems, but know i can read the Forum. If you go on forumshome, or the parispic in header, you will …
creator: Don Nafe
date: 2008-12-03T00:24:22-00:00

Re: M-Audio follow up question - MTC
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description: more than 8 faders enabled, so I'm almost 100% certain it's a Pro Tools bug. I have been working on adding an MME wrapper around the ASIO driver, embedded in the parisAsio.dll. This wrapper would still be single client and only available to 32 bit applications, but it would allow using a couple of channels of the PARIS hardware with applications that don't support ASIO. If this looks like it's going to take too long, I'll drop it for now. I've got the output side almost ready to test. I also have to put together an installer. That's where we're at. After that, I'm going to work on a re-write of the scherzo driver for use with a 64 bit ASIO driver. All the best! Mike Amazing! Would a 64bit Asio driver then also work with Pro Tools 12? If yes, how is it even possible to get such stoneold hardware run on 64bit, you mu
creator: audioguy_editout_
date: 2008-12-03T00:56:16-00:00

Re: M-Audio follow up question - MTC
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description: channels as my session has. That's really great and not much of a problem in my view. So how about Cubase/Nuendo. Do these work in 32 bit mode ASIO? Does the C16 also work here? And one last question: If I start the Paris Hardware in ASIO mode can it still be used with the PARIS application at the same time or is it "either ... or"? Kudos for taking the workload of programming 64bit. That is huge undertaking then. U never seem to lose your passion for the Paris Hardware which is remarkable in itself.T
creator: Don Nafe
date: 2008-12-03T02:19:07-00:00

Re: M-Audio follow up question - MTC
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description: BH, I don't use Cubase right now but I intend to do use it again with the Expert Sleepers Midi Interface. To use Cubase with Paris I would use the ADAT Sync of the RME Multiface anyways, so I guess my question was more theoretical. If I have the Setup working which should be in a couple of months I would definitely give it a try to see how Cubase works with the Paris Hardware. So can the Paris Application run simultaneously with the Asio on the hardware? I guess not?I'm sorry that I missed that question, Story. The driver is built on top of the PSCL, which is single client. So, only one application can access the hardware at once. That's probably what we want for low latency anyway. In order to share the hardware, another layer of buffering would need to be added in kernel mode. All the best! Mike Well, I just tried disabling just the ping reply in the HUI code path, and ever
creator: Rod Lincoln
date: 2008-12-03T05:12:45-00:00

Re: M-Audio follow up question - MTC
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description: usually only when using 16 bit streams. I haven't seen it since I made a change about three weeks ago. There was also the issue with Cubase that is fixed. That bug also affected the ASIO plugin for Windows Media Player. Listening to my flac collection through media player using the PARIS hardware is absolutely awesome. I'm planning to do some work on the scherzo next, in preparation for a 64 bit ASIO. It's going to be a while though. Having two kids to look after takes time away from other adventures. All the best, Mike Mike is the best, better support then I ever got from E-mu. Hands down he is the man. I have a Apogee 8000 converter, I have been thinking about using on my system (just to see how it sounds) but have not found a A-Dat card for the Apogee 8000 at a fair price. Seems like they want more then the card is worth. I also looked into Benchmark converters for the final mix buss. Has anyone done this and what did you think. Did it take away the dark side sound of the Paris main mix or is that part of the software that makes it sound dark. I was looking at some Bench-Mark converter for the main out and maybe the way to go. I would like see more detail, and imaging in the stereo field. Any thoughts on this would be great!Hi everyone, I am actually working with an Interface 442, one EDS card and a Control 16. I'd really like to extend my system to another EDS card with a Control 16. I could work on 32 tracks and it would be just perfect. The question n•1 is : is it possible to run 2 eds cards with only a interface 442 ? Or do I have to look after a Me
creator: JeffH
date: 2008-12-03T07:58:55-00:00

Re: M-Audio follow up question - MTC
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description: c ? The question n•2 is : can a Mec and a 442 be linked and work together ? (So that I would have 8i/o) don't think it would but I have to ask For the story : I am currenltly student in an audio school, so we are Protoolised each day (I bet you knew) but, after 10 years working with Paris, it takes me 1 hour to have a "cool roughmix" with Ensoniq Paris, and 6 hours to have a "cool not even better roughmix" in PT with all the Fu..in great UAD plugs.. So ! It's cheaper, it's easier, it works better, I just need more faders !! Help Cheers E Hey everyone. Thanks for adding me to the forums. I landed an EDS1000, MEC and C16 over the weekend and had aspirations of running it under OS9 on mac. Is there any way to install Paris on a mac (g4 I reckon) now that Int Devices are no longer issuing response codes? Or is a windows based system now the way to go? It pains me to say it as a long time mac user but yes - for someone setting up a Paris rig in 2016 there's no question. PC is now definitely the way to go for a host of reasons, not merely because of the impossibility of getting a license code from ID, or because of Paris development itself, but also because there's a number of other possibilities that third party development has enabled. You should be able to get a basic PC that will run Paris for free, or next to it. Well that is upsetting to hear, as I really wanted a nice little 'legacy' OS9 rig running a bunch of old goodies like Digidesign Turbosynth & some other old mac stuff. In all honesty, having three computers (main mac PT12 rig, Mac OS9 plus a windows 7 computer) is probably not practical for me... as much as I would like to give Paris a spin. On a side note, I did email Intelligent Devices a few days ago. Joshua from IT replied and said "Unfortunately, the only support we are currently offering for PARIS is challenge response codes for original purchasers." I can understand why they wouldn't sell new copies of Paris software, as it probably carries some sort …
creator: Don Nafe
date: 2008-12-03T11:05:26-00:00

Re: M-Audio follow up - MIDI interface
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description: got the hardware from. Fingers crossed. The First option is to use PARIS version 2.x for the Mac. I think the last version was 2.2. There is no p
creator: Don Nafe
date: 2008-12-03T11:59:43-00:00

2 Audio Cards sharing computer
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description: ace, so you can see if anyone here can email or mail you a copy of it. I maybe wrong, but I believe PACE free PARIS 3.1 was released, contact Mike Audit on that. I will say that down the road you should really switch to a PC for Paris because Mike Audit has fixed many issues with the Paris plugins and he is continuing to develop Paris on the PC side. With Mike's windows drivers you can use a system with more processors and more RAM. Mike's development of ASIO drivers for the Paris hardware should be even more compelling. In addition to running the paris software, you can run Pro Tools, Reaper or many other DAW softwares on the paris hardware and utilize the I/Os and the C-16 control surface. In short, Paris is still being developed and improved upon today, thanks to Mike Audit! Check out mike's site. http://www.ensoniq.ca/catalog/ I hope this helps JamesI think your on to something with the Apogees and the Benchmark. Long time user "DJ" had the benchmark and as I recall, he quantified the sound improvement around a 15% or more improvement. He may have also had the Apogee. Someone here must have blazed the apogee trail in the past. I also think a newer Clock would likely improve the overall sound of Paris. JamesHi All, I just compiled my first build of an installer for the ASIO driver package. I'm going to test it over the next few days. If all goes well, I'll release it right away. All the best, MikeYou bloody ripper!! (said with an Australian accent...)Mike, We need a "Like" button!
creator: Don Nafe
date: 2008-12-03T12:05:34-00:00

Re: 2 Audio Cards sharing computer
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description: Don Hi There. I just tried to post a detailed reply to your post, only to have it lost, because the forum bumped me off after about 20 minutes. In a nutshell, You are onto something. Paris has some mojo going on that makes it easy as hell to get good sounding mixes, even rough ones. Your best bet is to get yourself a Mec, and a second EDS card. Yes, you can have a 32 track mixing environment with two EDS's and an IF442, but you cannot run a MEC and an IF442 together on a single EDS card. A MEC with one 8 input card will give you 12 recordable tracks on your first EDS, and your IF442 will give you an extra four recordable tracks on your second submix/EDS. Hope this helps somewhat. Kim Hello Kim, Cool ! I'm quiet sure I'll follow your advise with a MEC and a second EDS card. At last it will be the easiest way to enjoy PARIS and it's best. Thank you a lot ! Best Emma We need a "Mike Audet" holiday!I just read this entire thread again from scratch, Mike you're a legend! I look forward to the release "soon" Thanks so much, Amuse! I got a nasty cold a week ago Friday, and it's been hard to shake. It's slowed me down a bit. But, I haven't had a single issue with the driver myself in over two months of testing. I'm so excited to finally get this out. I know that soon is a loaded word around here, but this is definitely happening! All the best! Mike @Mike when you will sell the driver on your page ?Hi Daniel, I'll have it up as soon as I can. I've tested the installer on Windows 10 64. I have to test on a 32 bit Windows as well as Windows 7 64. I've found a couple of minor things that I just fixed
creator: EK Sound
date: 2008-12-03T14:26:23-00:00

Re: 2 Audio Cards sharing computer
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description: - The version number and year on the scherzo driver were wrong. They're fixed. I also have to write a simple readme file. I'll aim for next weekend. It's the very final stretch. All the best, MikeGreat ! to read this .... and now in German JUBEL,FREU,GEIL.........(english: happy, joy, wicked)I've been working on something half way between a readme file and a manual. I'm not trying to cover every little detail, but I'm hoping it gives enough information for all the features to be found and used. One thing I haven't done is map out every C16 button and what C16 modes they work in. I'm hoping this won't be necessary. The faders, mutes, soloes, transport, and jog wheel work in all of them. Reaper OSC has a signal for every button. It just wasn't possible to map them all to Mackie equivalents (HUI and MCP) because the control surfaces are just too different. I did my best. If anyone has time to look it over, this is what I have so far. I'm going to test the installer on an 32 bit Windows this weekend. It's working great on 64 bit Windows. All the best! MikeAs always Mike, If you need Win 7 x64 testing, shoot me an email.So if i run Win7 64 bit can run Paris 2.2 What are the differences with 3.0?Really looking forward to the Asio driver!I found a small bug in the installer that related to 32 bit installs. It's fixed. I just added a warning dialog for when there is no interface on the master card. One beta tester is having a bit of trouble with the installer, and he's very kindly checking out the registry entries to see if I made a mistake. It's the very final stretch. I'm listening to 54-40 through Soundforge Audio Studio 10 right now. The PARIS hardware sounds beautiful. All the best, MikeI'm looking for PARIS information and I can't seem to find the PARISwiki, anybody got an active link?Heya Will - that's my bad. We changed the DNS and broke the links. I'm still looking for a fix for it. Ok, Quick question.... I just rebuilt my PARIS rig including new hard drives. I hav…
creator: Tom Bruhl
date: 2008-12-03T15:31:16-00:00

Re: 2 Audio Cards sharing computer
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creator: Aaron Allen
date: 2008-12-04T04:27:04-00:00

Re: 2 Audio Cards sharing computer
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creator: Tom Bruhl
date: 2008-12-04T04:48:07-00:00

Re: 2 Audio Cards sharing computer
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creator: Kim W
date: 2008-12-04T05:10:05-00:00

Re: 2 Audio Cards sharing computer
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creator: Don Nafe
date: 2008-12-04T11:20:08-00:00

Re: M-Audio follow up question - MTC
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creator: Martin Harrington
date: 2008-12-08T01:30:12-00:00