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PARIS ASIO is usably stable for me now, after 36 hours of being open without crashing or rebooting, with a moderate test mix in progress So if that kind of "not fixed" was as good as it ever got, it would have been fixed enough for me - I wish I could say I'd solved my own (unrelated to audio) software headaches so solidly. But I understand wanting to be sure you've treated the disease and not the symptom, and I suspect that if this nails it you'll be able to start shortening those lengthened internal timings again and speeding everything up. I'll let you know how this works over here - keep up the superb work! - K On 2008-09-21 07:43:47 -0700, "Mike Audet" <mike@...> said: > > > > Hi All, > > I think I finally found the playback locking issue on multi-core machines > with the PSCL, but it's not in the PCL. When it happens, the IRQ is becoming > masked (turned off), and it's definitely not happening in the PSCL. I've > put into place the mother of all hacks - if the helper thread times out because > the IRQs are masked, it unmasks them. Since this only seems to happen when > projects are loading, it works. > > The Scherzo masks the IRQs during the interrupt service routine and the delayed > procedure call. I think they are stepping on each other if the DPC is delayed > enough than a new interrupt fires before it finishes. > > I'm going to figure out how to compile the scherzo and put some locking around > the IRQ masks. I'm pretty sure that's where the true fix lies. The delays > I was putting in probably just gave more CPU time to the scherzo by putting > the app to sleep for short times, reducing delays in the driver and improving > the problem without solving it. > > We're very, very close to putting this thing to bed. > > After that, I'm going to work on the ASIO driver. After that, migrating > parts of the PSCL into the scherzo so we can get some wav drivers going. > > Cheers! > > Mike > > This message has one or more attachments. Select "Save Attachments" > from the File menu to save.Thanks, Kerry! In the latest build, I reset the delays to zero. So, it should be faster. Cheers! Mike KerryGalloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote: >All I can say is that whether the last fix was a "true" fix or not, I >just had to close REAPER for the first time in about 36 hours straight, >and that was only so I could add the new PSCL and restart. PARIS ASIO >is usably stable for me now, after 36 hours of being open without >crashing or rebooting, with a moderate test mix in progress > >So if that kind of "not fixed" was as good as it ever got, it would >have been fixed enough for me - I wish I could say I'd solved my own >(unrelated to audio) software headaches so solidly. > >But I understand wanting to be sure you've treated the disease and not >the symptom, and I suspect that if this nails it you'll be able to >start shortening those lengthened internal timings again and speeding >everything up. I'll let you know how this works over here - keep up the >superb work! > >- K > >On 2008-09-21 07:43:47 -0700, "Mike Audet" <mike@...> said: > >> >> >> >> Hi All, >> >> I think I finally found the playback locking issue on multi-core machines >> with the PSCL, but it's not in the PCL. When it happens, the IRQ is becoming >> masked (turned off), and it's definitely not happening in the PSCL. I've >> put into place the mother of all hacks - if the helper thread times out because >> the IRQs are masked, it unmasks them. Since this only seems to happen when >> projects are loading, it works. >> >> The Scherzo masks the IRQs during the interrupt service routine and the delayed >> procedure call. I think they are stepping on each other if the DPC is delayed >> enough than a new interrupt fires before it finishes. >> >> I'm going to figure out how to compile the scherzo and put some locking around >> the IRQ masks. I'm pretty sure that's where the true fix lies. The delays >> I was putting in probably just gave more CPU time to the scherzo by putting >> the app to sleep for short times, reducing delays in the driver and improving >> the problem without solving it. >> >> We're very, very close to putting this thing to bed. >> >> After that, I'm going to work on the ASIO driver. After that, migrating >> parts of the PSCL into the scherzo so we can get some wav drivers going. >> >> Cheers! >> >> Mike >> >> This message has one or more attachments. Select
t; <mike@...> said: > >> >> Thanks, Kerry! >> >> In the latest build, I reset the delays to zero. So, it should be faster. >> >> Cheers! >> >> Mike >You're amazing dude. ;)The sagebrush and a few other fall blooming flora have my sinuses/ears going in and out of vaporlock right now and I'm trying to get a few mixes ready for preliminary approval. http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=a8afe5e99c9867b1d2db6fb9a 8902bda Just concerned with relative levels, panning and any freq "gotcha's" at this point. Production decisions as to whether or not to keep/lose all or part of the slide track, etc. will come later. Thanks,Arrrggggg.....I posted a link to the wrong file....as if I could tell the difference right now.... http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=
a8afe5e99c9867b1d2db6fb9a 8902bda"Deej" <noway@jose.net> wrote: > >The sagebrush and a few other fall blooming flora have my sinuses/ears going >in and out of vaporlock right now and I'm trying to get a few mixes ready >for preliminary approval. > > http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=a8afe5e99c9867b1d2db6fb9a 8902bda > >Just concerned with relative levels, panning and any freq "gotcha's" at this >point. Production decisions as to whether or not to keep/lose all or part >of the slide track, etc. will come later. > > >Thanks, Twat did you say? I cunt hear you, I have a ear infucktion, bare ass me again.Mike, Hopefully I'll be able to do more testing next week. Been working to expand the system into a different magma case and so far cannot seem to get beyond 4 eds cards before it crashes and the system restarts on its own. Once I get to stable, I should be of some use in the testing process. Makes me want to take it back to where it was. In the old case I had six cards rock solid and was seeing all the ADAT cards. I just got greedy :-) Jeff KerryGalloway wrote: > Well, an hour of testing and it seems solid here, both with PARIS and > through ASIO. I can't tell the difference from the last build, but I > guess that's the point. > > If you're tackling the IRQ assignment glitches in the PSCL, and > everything depends upon the PSCL - do you think this could also have a > global positive effect on PARIS' IRQ twitchiness overall? > > - K > > On 2008-09-21 10:03:35 -0700, "Mike Audet" <mike@...> said: > >> >> Thanks, Kerry!<
br /> >> >> In the latest build, I reset the delays to zero. So, it should be >> faster. >> >> Cheers! >> >> Mike > >Hey Kerry, Speaking of Reaper - I just tried turning on a couple of UAD-1 plugins in Reaper and there are no cool pictures of the boxes they emulate! Only a generic parameter list. Is that different on PC? By the way - as soon as I get time I'm going to call to tell you about the Alberta seminar we went to. I'm in the midst of a massive work weekend. Be careful what you pray for! Gantt KerryGalloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote: >All I can say is that whether the last fix was a "true" fix or not, I >just had to close REAPER for the first time in about 36 hours straight, >and that was only so I could add the new PSCL and restart. PARIS ASIO >is usably stable for me now, after 36 hours of being open without >crashing or rebooting, with a moderate test mix in progress > >So if that kind of "not fixed" was as good as it ever got, it would >have been fixed enough for me - I wish I could say I'd solved my own >(unrelated to audio) software headaches so solidly. > >But I understand wanting to be sure you've treated the disease and not >the symptom, and I suspect that if this nails it you'll be able to >start shortening those lengthened internal timings again and speeding >everything up. I'll let you know how this works over here - keep up the >superb work! > >- K > >On 2008-09-21 07:43:47 -0700, "Mike Audet" <mike@...> said: > >> >> >> >> Hi All, >> >> I think I finally found the playback locking issue on multi-core machines >> with the PSCL, but it's not in the PCL. When it happens, the IRQ is becoming >> masked (turned off), and it's definitely not happening in the PSCL. I've >> put into place the mother of all hacks - if the helper thread times out because >> the IRQs are masked, it unmasks them. Since this only seems to happen when >> projects are loading, it works. >> >> The Scherzo masks the IRQs during the interrupt service routine and the delayed >> procedure call. I think they are stepping on each other if the DPC is delayed >> enough than a new interrupt fires before it finishes. >> >> I'm going to figure out how to compile the scherzo and put some locking around >> the IRQ masks. I'm pretty sure that's where the true fix lies. Th
e delays >> I was putting in probably just gave more CPU time to the scherzo by putting >> the app to sleep for short times, reducing delays in the driver and improving >> the problem without solving it. >> >> We're very, very close to putting this thing to bed. >> >> After that, I'm going to work on the ASIO driver. After that, migrating >> parts of the PSCL into the scherzo so we can get some wav drivers going. >> >> Cheers! >> >> Mike >> >> This message has one or more attachments. Select "Save Attachments" >> from the File menu to save. > >This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---=_linux48d6bc62 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Jeff, I'm sorry to hear that. If you want to use to use the latest PSCL I posted along with DebugView (attached), I could look at the output to see if it is a driver issue. Good luck! Mike Jeff Hoover <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote: >Mike, > >Hopefully I'll be able to do more testing next week. Been working to >expand the system into a different magma case and so far cannot seem to >get beyond 4 eds cards before it crashes and the system restarts on its >own. Once I get to stable, I should be of some use in the testing >process. Makes me want to take it back to where it was. In the old >case I had six cards rock solid and was seeing all the ADAT cards. I >just got greedy :-) > > > >Jeff > > >KerryGalloway wrote: >> Well, an hour of testing and it seems solid here, both with PARIS and >> through ASIO. I can't tell the difference from the last build, but I >> guess that's the point. >> >> If you're tackling the IRQ assignment glitches in the PSCL, and >> everything depends upon the PSCL - do you think this could also have a >> global positive effect on PARIS' IRQ twitchiness overall? >> >> - K >> >> On 2008-09-21 10:03:35 -0700, "Mike Audet" <mike@...> said: >> >>> >>> Thanks, Kerry! >>> >>> In the latest build, I reset the delays to zero. So, it should be >>> faster. >>> >>> Cheers! >>> >>> Mike >> >> ---=_linux48d6bc62 Content-Type: application/zip; name="DebugView.zip" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="DebugView.zip" [binary]
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