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OK, so my Paris machine is still cactus... ;o)
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description: > >>> >>>>>> it is truly a limitation of OSX and core audio. Based on the Logic >>>>>> thread, the latter seems to have a bit more weight than it being a >>>>>> Nuendo-only performance issue. >>>>>> >>>>>> Fwiw, >>>>>> Dedric >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>-- >>>>>Chris Ludwig >>>>>ADK >>>>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com> >>>>>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/> >>>>>(859) 635-5762 >>>> >>> >> >> >dry humping is always good, but at least have the balls to use your own account "john" <no@no.com> wrote: > >GOD I FUCKING HATE THAT STUPID FUCKING TI
creator: Kim
date: 2007-12-26T23:05:31-00:00

Re: OK, so my Paris machine is still cactus... ;o)
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description: e of their tunes (no words) before they played it - same degree of fanaticism, slightly higher degree of difficulty. It is a wonderful thing to hear. I wish their were fans who loved my stuff that much! > > Amazing. > > Chris Daughtry opened for them. I hadn't really paid attention to his > stuff on the radio, and I don't watch "American Idol". > > I went home and ordered his cd. Really good stuff, sung honestly. > > And for Tuesday night's show (I verified with others who had seen the > two earlier shows), Bon Jovi changed the set list up and included > "Blaze of Glory", during which they brought Chris out to sing with Jon > and Richie. The audience went nuts, andI have to say, he really > pulled it off. > > Yeah, our seats sucked. But that has to rank as one of my top-5 > favorite concerts. > > pab > >Hey Alex, thats the beauty of DSP based rigs, you don't have to necessarily have upgrade to the lastest and greatest Mac..or Pc.. "alex plasko" <alex.plasko@snet.net> wrote: >my math was following every upgrade as they were available.including the >overpriced macs needed to run it. >someone jumping in today wouldn't see those incremental costs. what kind of >"math" are you using? >"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote in message news:47c70cf7$1@linux... >> >> Hey ..the RME /Steinberg route is very nice and very Powerful. I think >> that >> you need to redo your math on the 100k digi upgrade. >> >> I went from a audiomedia (still have) to Pro Tools 001(cost 4
creator: mike audet[1]
date: 2007-12-27T00:32:19-00:00

Re: OK, so my Paris machine is still cactus... ;o)
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description: t;>>>>> >>>>>>Sorta reminds me of the vague claims Rain Recording made about Vista >>>>>>with nothing to back it up other than Microsoft and Cakewalk press >>>>>>releases. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Chris >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Dedric Terry wrote: >>>>>>> http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=6693909#6 693909 >> >>>>>>> (should >>>>> >>>>>>> take you to the next to last post on that page) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Apparently Apogee's numbers are only while tracking. Sounds like >>>>>>> they >>>>> >>>>>>> only posted part of the story with their great low latency figures. >>>>>>> It is hard to say if this is the case for everyone though, except for >>>>> >>>>>>> Apogee's response when the user called, but since I brought it up in >>>> >>>>>>> the Vista thread, I thought I would pass it along to try and sort >>>>>>> through marketing myth and real world facts. I was actually kind of >>>> >>>>>>> hoping the Apogee Symphony would smoke at low latency with Core audio >>>>> >>>>>>> and any app, just because it would be cool to have such a >>>>>>> breakthrough, but this really just shows that ASIO is pushing the >>>>>>> limits of current OSs already, and we haven't really exceeded it yet. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The reports on Nuendo performance is quite a bit faster on XP and >>>>>>> ASIO2, but it's running fine at low latency on >>>>>>> OSX/core audio - just about 20-30% higher (my adjusted >>>>>>> estimate) plugin load on the same hardware, same latency: it's really >>>>> >>>>>>> 76 Nu
creator: Kim
date: 2007-12-27T01:08:17-00:00

Re: OK, so my Paris machine is still cactus... ;o)
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description: endo multiband comps at 64 samples on XP/ASIO, vs 45 on OSX/core >>>>> >>>>>>> audio at 64, which is almost 50% more, but I'm assuming there are >>>>>>> other plugins in that benchmark test to compensate for, and vary part >>>>> >>>>>>> of that loading (I'll have to find out for sure when I have more >>>>>>> time) >>>>> >>>>>&
creator: Kim
date: 2007-12-27T01:42:01-00:00

Re: How much is a cheap Magma anyhow?
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description: gt;> - same dual quad hardware configs in both cases. I don't know for >>>>>>> sure if some of this is Nuendo not being optimized for the lower >>>>>>> level >>>>> >>>>>>> OSX code base (maybe already), or still on Cocoa or whatever - or if >>>> >>>>>>> it is truly a limitation of OSX and core audio. Based on the Logic >>>>>>> thread, the latter seems to have a bit more weight than it being a >>>>>>> Nuendo-only performance issue. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Fwiw, >>>>>>> Dedric >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>-- >>>>>>Chris Ludwig >>>>>>ADK >>>>>><a h
creator: Kim
date: 2007-12-27T02:13:15-00:00

Re: How much is a cheap Magma anyhow?
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description: ref="mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com" target="_blank">chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com> >>>>>>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/> >>>>>>(859) 635-5762 >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > >Hey Dedric, I got some sweetheart deals from personal friends who were upgrading, and I got a great deal from our Sweetwater Rep.. Man, they thrown in a slew of plugins on these PT HD upgrades.. "Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote: >Everyone I know that kept up with the upgrades and went with full blown PT >rigs to support >higher track and plugin counts (as many as we get with native) spent way >more than the $10k you listed >below, for a commercial studio (not an upgrade from an Audiomedia, or >PT001). > >e.g. A friend of mine went to Mix Plus way back a few years after it first >came out, with ProControl (I believe): >total was $40k, and that was considered a modest PT rig at the time - that >followed his O2R, ADATs, multiple consoles, etc. > >I don't know if/when he went HD, but that's even more on top. I'm also not >sure if the $40k included >any plugins at the time - probably some basic plugins but I'm sure he >expanded/added to it down the road. > >"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote in message news:47c70cf7$1@linux...</a
creator: mike audet[1]
date: 2007-12-27T02:29:49-00:00

Re: How much is a cheap Magma anyhow?
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description: thread, I thought I would pass it along to try and sort >>>>>>> through marketing myth and real world facts. I was actually kind of >>>> >>>>>>> hoping the Apogee Symphony would smoke at low latency with Core audio >>>>> >>>>>>> and any app, just because it would be cool to have such a >>>>>>> breakthrough, but this really just shows that ASIO is pushing the >>>>>>> limits of current OSs already, and we haven't really exceeded it yet. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The reports on Nuendo performance is quite a bit faster on XP and >>>>>>> ASIO2, but it's running fine at low latency on >>>>>>> OSX/core audio - just about 20-30% higher (my adjusted >>>>>>> estimate) plugin load on the same hardware, same latency: it's really >>>>> >>>>>>> 76 Nuendo multiband comps at 64 samples on XP/ASIO, vs 45 on OSX/core >>>>> >>>>>>> audio at 64, which is almost 50% more, but I'm assuming there are >>>>>>> other plugins in that benchmark test to compensate for, and vary part >>>>> >>>>>>> of that loading (I'll have to find out for sure when I have more >>>>>>> time) >>>>> >>>>>>> - same dual quad hardware configs in both cases. I don't know for >>>>>>> sure if some of this is Nuendo not being optimized for the lower >>>>>>> level >>>>> >>>>>>> OSX code base (maybe already), or still on Cocoa or whatever - or if >>>> >>>>>>> it is truly a limitation of OSX and core audio. Based on the Logic >>>>>>> thread, the latter seems to have a bit more weight than it being a >>>>>>> Nuendo-only performance issue. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Fwiw, >>>>>>> Dedric >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>-- >>>>>>Chris Ludwig >>>>>>ADK >>>>>><a href="m
creator: Aaron Allen
date: 2007-12-27T05:02:49-00:00

Re: How much is a cheap Magma anyhow?
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description: ailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com" target="_blank">chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com> >>>>>>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/> >>>>>>(859) 635-5762 >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >Sorry I did'nt see the last part.. Well, yes when add a Pro Control in the mx, that can add up ..I'm just talking about the incremental updates, in-which you don;t have to do.... There are many more studios/ owners who are still on the Mix system than HD.. "Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote: >Everyone I know that kept up with the upgrades and went with full blown PT >rigs to support >higher track and plugin counts (as many as we get with native) spent way >more than the $10k you listed >below, for a commercial studio (not an upgrade from an Audiomedia, or >PT001). > >e.g. A friend of mine went to Mix Plus way back a few years after it first >came out, with ProControl (I believe): >total was $40k, and that was considered a modest PT rig at the time - that >followed his O2R, ADATs, multiple consoles, etc.<br /
creator: Deej
date: 2007-12-27T06:50:59-00:00

Re: How much is a cheap Magma anyhow?
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description: C/Mac upgrade >>>>>bandwagon. >>>>>Spent $$$ major money chasing the zero latency Native dream..Only to run >>>>>into the win XP/Vista brick wall of doom.. >>>>>The lie of the 64 bit dream.. Dual core this and that..SHAM!!! >>>>> >>>>>My Win ME Paris (4 card) rig still is as stable as it ever was. >>>>> >>>>>All in all, it's your money, spend it how you may, but one thing is for >>>> sure, >>>>>If are working on a major lable recording, it better be delivered in >>>>>ProTools.. >>>>>You want a job working a sudio or media house, you better know Pro >>>>>Tools.. >>>>> >>>>>So, we can sit hear discussing Native torture test wasting time(IMHO) >> when >>>>>a vialble solution is already on the market that can be had these days >> for >>>>>under 10k..belive it or not.hat yields a very polished sound, very very >>>> flexible >>>>>i/o routing for hardware owners..super low-latency that allows you to >> >>>>>track >>>>>and mixrealtime live sessions..and oh yeah.. Super stable.. >>>>> >>>>>So, just look at the reciepts from the last 5 years on or Native Dream >> >>>>>journey >>>>>and add em up. Then, add up all those clients who utter that all >>>>>familiar >>>>>phrase" Do you have Pro Tools"?.. >>>>> >>>>>I guess it comes down to is his this: Are you in the game or are you >>>>>not? >>>>>Simple.. >>>>> >>>>>Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote: >>>>>>Hi Dedric, >>>>>>Apogee is doing nothing that hasn't been done by RME and Lynx for going >>>>> >>>>>>on 3 years now on PC and now on Intel Macs. >>>>>>If I want a proprietary hardware system I'd just buy Pro Tools and be >>>>>>done with it. >>>>>>Now that RME and Lynx are starting to release PCI-e cards the Symphony >>>> >>>>>>looks less and less attractive. >>>>>>Not really sure what is good about it. Only thing I could see is it >>>>>>being the first PCI-e card for the MAC. >>>>>>About the only fair comparison would be between and RME Madi card at >> 96k >>>>> >>>>>>and see how it compares against the Symphony numbers.…
creator: mike audet[1]
date: 2007-12-27T14:16:56-00:00

Re: How much is a cheap Magma anyhow?
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description: is Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message news:47c6dc15@linux... > Hi Aaron, > > If you want to get the most out of it then these will help. > > Run SP2 especially if you gonna be using for internet stuff. > Don't install IE7 yuck!! In fact uninstall fricking IE and Out look and > install fire fox and thunder bird. But don't do that until you use IE6 to > download em. :) > You will probably need to install dot net 1 and 2 but only need to install > 3 if you have any vista machine in your network. > > These hot fixes are for multi-core Intel cpus. > > Microsoft hot fix: > KB896256 ><b
creator: Deej
date: 2007-12-27T22:35:11-00:00

Re: How much is a cheap Magma anyhow?
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description: ter a few months it was back to the old tricks. Definitely >>>>>>>>>>heat related, as it's worse on hot days or if I keep my computer >>closet >>>>>>>>>closed >>>>>>>>>>with the light on. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Any ideas on what I might try? >>>>>>>>>&
creator: Kim
date: 2007-12-27T22:36:56-00:00

Re: How much is a cheap Magma anyhow?
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description: gt; >>>>>>>>>>Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>Dale >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >..... "Chr
creator: Kim
date: 2007-12-27T22:38:19-00:00

Re: How much is a cheap Magma anyhow?
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description: r /> > Microsoft hot fix: > KB936357 > > Very cool. Since I will use the box for IT, net surfing, audio and video I just loaded everything from MS Updates. The box still idles at (gulp) 0% CPU usage and about 300~350 MB of Ram usage. I'll check that these two KB fixes were on that list - thank you for the great tip there > Make sure you are using the newest BIOS and latest drivers for the > motherboard, especially the on board video. Yes, it has the newest revision on it. > > Which on board video card chip does your motherboard have? 8 meg seems way > too low. Does it have hardwired memory and then shared past that? > I think you hit it on the head. it has two numbers listed in the BIOS, one is 8 MB (this must be the Intel chip onboard memory) and another selectable option at 128 and 256 MB I believe it was, that is the 'shared' section.... I'll double check that. Vid res on the dual outs will hit 1280 x 1024 so far.. haven't pushed anything past that as it's auto detecting my 19" screens. > > > > Chris
creator: Kim
date: 2007-12-27T23:47:52-00:00

Re: How much is a cheap Magma anyhow?
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description: erry@keyofd.net> wrote in message news:47c6e72a@linux... > David - Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield with a socket 975 Intel board. > I have an Asus P5W DH Deluxe board that's a good board (esp. for multiple > PCI and PCIe slots. > (Gigabyte may be another good choice). > > I heard the Core 2 Quads were on sale for as low as $199 recently - down > to $250 on newegg.com. > > > "EK Sound" <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote in message news:47c6e4b2@linux... >> Along this topic... what's the biggest bang for the buck right now for MB >> and Chip?? Our Nuendo machine i
creator: Martin Harrington
date: 2007-12-28T00:01:18-00:00

Re: How much is a cheap Magma anyhow?
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description: s in need of an upgrade.... >> >> Thanks, >> >> David. >> >> Chris Ludwig wrote: >>> Hi Aaron, >>> >>> If you want to get the most out of it then these will help. >>> >>> Run SP2 especially if you gonna be using for internet stuff. >>> Don't install IE7 yuck!! In fact uninstall fricking IE and Out look and >>> install fire fox and thunder bird. But don't do that until you use IE6 >>> to download em. :) >>> You wi
creator: Kim
date: 2007-12-28T01:08:54-00:00

Re: How much is a cheap Magma anyhow?
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description: ll probably need to install dot net 1 and 2 but only need to >>> install 3 if you have any vista machine in your network. >>> >>> These hot fixes are for multi-core Intel cpus. >>> >>> Microsoft hot fix: >>> KB896256 >>> >>> Microsoft hot fix: >>> KB936357 >>> >>> >>> Make sure you are using the newest BIOS and latest drivers for the >>> motherboard, especially the on board video. >>> >>> Which on board video card chip does your motherboard have? 8 meg seems >>> way too low. Does it have hardwired memory and then shared past that? >&gt
creator: mike audet[1]
date: 2007-12-28T01:16:49-00:00

Re: How much is a cheap Magma anyhow?
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description: mS, and I'll probably try to push it a little more down the > road. > > AA > > "Mike R" <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:47cabc51$1@linux... >> >> Sheesh, I can't shut up about it. I'm really blown away -high track >> counts >> and really no big worries about tossin' in the plugs. Last night, we had >> a freeamp 3 feeding a couple of distortion plugs a compressor and then >> another >> freeamp 3 and then routed that channel to two subs, one with a verb and >> the >> other with a dual delay. I spent about 700 for the pieces parts. Can't >> believe the bang for the buck. At least for me in my little tiny world >> ITB >> has definately arrived. >> take care MR >> >> >> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:<b
creator: Aaron Allen
date: 2007-12-29T00:58:35-00:00

Re: How much is a cheap Magma anyhow?
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description: r >>> freeamp 3 and then routed that channel to two subs, one with a verb and >>> the >>> other with a dual delay. I spent about 700 for the pieces parts. Can't >>> believe the bang for the buck. At least for me in my little tiny world >>> ITB >>> has definately arrived. >>> take care MR >>> >>> >>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote: >>>>I transplanted my EMU0404 to the machine tonight, and fired a native >>>>app/native synths at it. Geez..... I'm not quite sure yet with how I work >>> >>>>I'm gonna be able to top this thing out. Keeping in mind, I use this box >>> for >>>>everything, and I've got 'everything' loaded up on it (included a full >>>>blown >>> >>>>office 2007 setup, A/V, antispy, etc....) as a result.And I haven't even >>> >>>>done the OS tweaking yet. >>>>Ain't tech grand? Finally I feel the promise of daily art (w/o the system >>> >>>>choking) I'd hoped for some years back when the 'restless got native'. >>>>Deej is gonna HAVE to get a quad or he'll....... you know........ >>>> >>>>AA >>>> >>>> >>>>"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:47ca163d$1@linux... >>>>> >>>>> Hey Aaron >>>>> Got into a quad core about a month ago: Q6600, GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3L LGA >>> >>>>> 775 >>>>> Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard, 2 gig of kingston RAM DDR2 800. I've >>> >>>>> been >>>>> running Reaper. Current project is 40 tracks, 110 plugs, cpu is hitting >>> >>>>> about >>>>> 40% with a buffer of 256 -delta 1010LT. XP with SP2, pretty well >>>>> tweaked >>>>> out. The power is certainly not limitless, but dang its been a freak >>> show >>>>> with plugs. Lots-o-fun. >>>>> happyquadding, >>>>> MR >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> > >hi Michael. I'll give it a try. 1st YES!.clock signal is inherent .unless you have a wordclock generator ,slave Paris to the 002 2nd clock rates are variable. what they are saying is in order for the source samples to line up properly ,the clock of the source and destination must align.this prevents errors on the read cycle so …
creator: mike audet[3]
date: 2007-12-29T15:39:29-00:00