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description: When mayor Rudi had an unfortunate tendency to legislate lifestyles (most famously when he decided to enforce an age old rule that a bar had to have a particular kind of license to have dancing, yes, there were bars with DJs where the bouncers would stop you from dancing), but by and large was a pragmatic conservative administrator. He also caved on some municipal union issues, but it's a little tricky beating up on the fire department right after 9/11. I think he would make a fine president during four years that are probably going to demand a lot of shaking and
creator: CED
date: 2007-11-21T04:48:46-00:00

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description: emptily) about 'Change.' Well hos, you don't need to agitate for change, > it'll be here soon enough. What the hell are you going to DO about it? That > said, the rest of the Democrats are so completely contemptible I couldn't > think of voting for them. Additionally, Obama seems very, very smart, and > perhaps most importantly very willing to learn from other people. Let's face > it, 95% of being president is picking the right people and the right advice. > > Lastly, and I might get in trouble here, I like the fact that he is black. > Dark skinned people have an intuitive, visceral understanding of what it's > like getting screwed over by white people. I can't imagine that a black president > would view situations like the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, the war in Afghanistan, > Chechnya an the rest of the former Soviet states, etc. and so forth in the > same way as a white president. This isn't a policy thing, it's an issue of > perspective. > > Lastly, what I really wish would happen during a debate is for a reporter > to say, 'We ha
creator: John [1]
date: 2007-11-21T12:33:09-00:00

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description: ose fine people," and others say other things. None of which will be fully correct. Some of which will be mostly wrong. I'm not singling us out personally, although we don't escape this human trait. But I'm constantly astounded at how easily people are herded and divided via the hooks of their confirmation biases. Which is the working basis of deceptive PR, and of politically motivated sleight of hand and obfuscation. By which I mean lying and pandering. And smear campaigns. We are all, to an extent susceptible to those approaches. > I still think suing anyone because your house was flooded in a major > flood zone with a near ground level water table, in the midst of a major > hurricane borders on a single digit IQ. So naturally these events will reaffirm your notions. But someone else may come to another conclusion based on different knowledge of specifics with a different, and also possibly legitimate, perspective. To me, it depends on each case. I can imagine specific situations in Nawlins where lawsuits might make sense. And plenty of cases where they wouldn't. So I'm not ready to make a blanket statement supporting or dismissing lawsuits there. I do think government planning and preparation was negligent, slow and mired in politics. I do think response was inadequate. I also think individual planning, preparation and response is open to criticism. So like I said earlier, there's plenty of blame to go around, but pointing the finger one way doesn't necessarily excuse other screw ups. > I just think personally looking at a levee next to my neighborhood with > water flowing above the level of my yard would run up a few common sense > red flags - somewhat similar to living below Mt. Kilauea (no one does > afaik) and watching lava flow past my house on a daily basis, wondering > if I might have chosen a little safer location to enhabit *before* the > ground starts shaking, instead of pointing toasty charcoal fingers after > it's too late. Probably you wouldn't have …
creator: steve the artguy
date: 2007-11-22T09:16:12-00:00

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description: ying both citizens and the government as an > entity. :-) But consider this...people make up government. It is not a > separate entity of beings called "them" or "they" that reside in a different > dimension playing by different laws of physics and at constant odds with the > beings in this dimension known as our country. Yep, I think you're restating what I thought I was saying. :^) > Better ethics, > responsibility, integrity, and honesty in general means better people in > office too (it goes a little deeper than just those qualities, but that's > enough for now). New Orleans and Louisiana would do well to consider the > less than stellar performance of their own elected officials - just so we > aren't laying blame anywhere in particular Right, and the fed government, too. More integrity, honesty, ethics and responsibility for all. and considering both sides, > without committing to either one.... ;-)) :^) There's a difference, though, between commitment and jumping to conclusions that merely support existing outlooks. Also, there are usually more than two sides to anything. And even when only two people are involved, there's one side, the other side and the truth. At any rate, blame will be figured out by the courts. That's what they're for. I'll bet some of these Nawlins lawsuits don't go very far, and some of them do. Then I'll bet that the ones that don't will be heralded by those who think they're all groundless, and the ones that do will be heralded by those who think they're all valid, and no one will have to go through the bother of changing their mind about their initial reaction to lawsuits over Katrina. >> News hype is an interesting topic in and of itself. Many of the same >> people who complain about "the media" being biased actively seek out >> blatantly non-objective sources of news and commentary to reassure their >> own confirmation biases. It's ironic. >> > Sure, but how does that apply to our roles in this conversation? A > generalization perha…
creator: Tom Bruhl
date: 2007-11-22T16:54:50-00:00

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description: >public is way too stupid to put future survival above their immediate >desires. > >We gotta wake up NOW. > Bill, I think there is a lot of truth to what you say. We are headed to a third world educational level which in turn will bring about third world capabilities. Perhaps we should start preparing for the role in this world that we have created for ourselves. DeejWell done, class! Your answers are all correct, but as usual our bright young lady is most astute. In the '60s psychiatry started a campaign to influence the schools and school systems and the teaching colleges in a big way. In the '50s at an annual convention, the head of American Psychiatric Association publicly declared their new goal of creating a "Value Neutral Society". Their aim was to blur and eradicate the distinction between right and wrong. They knew that the sure way to change society was by influencing the children. Psychiatrists have gradually introduced to our schools the mass drugging of children and even infants (approximately 8 million on Ritalin type drugs), Outcome Based Education (doesn't matter how much or how well children learn, just that they felt good about it) and the rest of their psuchobabble notions of how people should think and behave. Who was the most influential proponent of the "drug culture"? Not coincidentally, a psychologist and college professor, Dr. Timothy Leary. When you hear someone derided for being "judgmental", that is the influence of psychiatric double speak. Smart, ethical people used to be regarded as showing "good judgment", but now that positive attribute of being able to rightly judge people and situations has been slyly skewed into a bad thing. I'm sure you have noticed other examples of how illogical psychiatric concepts have replaced good reasoning. When you look around our society and see the delineation between right and wrong, logical and illogical, smart and stupid being blurred it is no accident. Look to the only group who has for over 50 year…
creator: CED
date: 2007-11-22T19:18:45-00:00

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description: r /> We can fix our schools but we must first recognize the source of the problem and erase its influence or it will only get worse. Our children are our responsibility. rick wrote: > yup, a bunch of egotistical numbnuts. it astounds me the level of non > educated college graduates we're churning out...with pride. > > > On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 01:29:11 -0800, "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> > wrote: > >> I think you got it, Don. Psychologists pretending to know something decided >> that discipline and competion were harmful to children's mental health. >> >> S >> >> >> "DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote in message news:4789a15e$1@linux... >>> Self esteem replaced achievement. >>> >>> >Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote: >Well done, class! Your answers are all correct, but as usual our bright >young lady is most astute. In the '60s psychiatry started a campaign to > influence the schools and school systems and the teaching colleges in >a big way. There's more to it than this. Part of it is also the cult of IQ and the separation of values reasoning and virtue from cognition. It's all intelligence, it's all cognition. But because we have been told we want a values-free education and are foolish enough to accept the illusion of detached neutrality, we separate out certain functions of the mind and call them intelligence while dismissing others as "not intelligence" but wisdom, virtue, honor, decency, etc. So we end up with Teddy Roosevelt's famous comment coming true in our lifetimes: "To educate a man in mind and not in morals is to educate a menace to society." Today, the very idea of society, as a system of shared values and assumed decencies is seen as laughable by a lot of people, while "intelligence" is treated by the quasi-educated as silicone is treated by porn stars. I don't like psychiatry much more than you do Bill (though I think there is a place for it in extreme cases where treatment has prevented suicides and murders) but it is not the source of the cul…
creator: CED
date: 2007-11-22T19:47:23-00:00

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description: ately, I had finished the chicken noodle soup BEFORE I watched it. pab"Gregb" <funkykeys1@verizon.net> wrote: > >Is any
creator: John [1]
date: 2007-11-23T13:17:22-00:00

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description: at Scientology usually demands specifics and personal >observation, but when it comes to psychiatry, it's all broad generalities. >I know a fair number of psychs through my job, and if there's an evil >conspiracy to ruin humanity, I think someone forgot to clue them in. Now, >the pharmaceutical companies . . . that's another story.<
creator: CED
date: 2007-11-24T07:10:57-00:00